How to Cheat at Cards: Stacking the Deck

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  • @DanielRoyMagic
    @DanielRoyMagic  3 года назад +186

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    For more information on stacking the deck, see "Gambling Scams" by Darwin Ortiz (some of the stories about stacking the deck come from this book) and “Poker Protection” Steve Forte. The overhand shuffle slug controls and five-handed run up come from The Expert at the Card Table by S.W. Erdnase. I first encountered the presentational idea of reciting the formula for the stack out loud in Darwin Ortiz's routine "The Professional" published in "Scams and Fantasies with Cards." This idea has previously been used by Andrew Wimhurst in his routine “The Expert at the Bridge Table” and in Bruce Elliot’s routine “The Expert at the Card Table.” To the best of my knowledge, the initial idea comes from Jack Merlin, published in “And a Pack of Cards.” I learned to riffle stack from Jason England's Foundations Vol. 2 and Steve Forte's DVD set Gambling Protection Series. The modified method of stacking the two red aces was demonstrated on Steve Forte's "52" in his Gambling Protection Series. Further refinements on riffle stacking are explored in “Gambling Sleight of Hand Volumes 1 and 2” by Steve Forte - highly recommended for the serious student. If I’ve missed any references, the fault is entirely my own, so please let me know!

    • @Hampan1
      @Hampan1 3 года назад +5

      I don’t get how you haven’t blown up yet like you’re slight is like lvl 💯

    • @rexcamporedondo1519
      @rexcamporedondo1519 3 года назад +3

      Hope you make tutorial for that shuffle you use Sir

    • @Ka1hal
      @Ka1hal 3 года назад +1

      The story of Richard Turner is the reason why you should never do these things in a real game. And let's be honest, he's one of those guys who could even fool himself

    • @nicholasscorpion9900
      @nicholasscorpion9900 3 месяца назад +1

      How did you "divide the responsibilities" for the thumbs. Please explain!

  • @smartaleckduck4135
    @smartaleckduck4135 3 года назад +1684

    Man says “I’ll recite the formula slower for you guys” and proceeds to put Eminem to shame

    • @McFreezer85
      @McFreezer85 3 года назад +46

      He did that in one of his acts to "describe" to a participant how to stack the deck. I tried to note the steps and found myself repeating, repeating, repeating.... repeating.... giving up... xD

    • @kroepoek3764
      @kroepoek3764 3 года назад

      Lel

    • @MillerSteveHD
      @MillerSteveHD 3 года назад +5

      Amazing reply, hats off to you sir

    • @srizki
      @srizki 3 года назад

      @Linsey Paczkowski Can any one hack your girlfriend's account using this?

    • @yellowcactustvz4929
      @yellowcactustvz4929 3 года назад

      @@srizki what

  • @billborrowed3939
    @billborrowed3939 3 года назад +807

    I still can‘t believe this amazing content is for free. Should be a lecturer at masterclass!

    • @reimerjulian7772
      @reimerjulian7772 3 года назад +33

      This is for free, because noone can copy that, because it is too hard haha

    • @DevilWearsAdidas
      @DevilWearsAdidas 3 года назад +8

      @@reimerjulian7772 After seeing the slowed down version, i must say, though it seems very hard to do, it seems a lot EASIER than what I imagined it was. I dont think it's a "no one can duplicate this" kind of thing. I actually think given the dedication and time to practice, anyone can do that.

    • @reimerjulian7772
      @reimerjulian7772 3 года назад +10

      @@DevilWearsAdidas Yeah of course its doable but its very very Hard to get that kind of controll over the cards

    • @da_king_kong_0847
      @da_king_kong_0847 3 года назад +2

      A yo stop, or it will become

    • @Carlos-dz5vq
      @Carlos-dz5vq 3 года назад +1

      @@DevilWearsAdidas is there a slower version of this video?

  • @Minecraftloverist
    @Minecraftloverist 3 года назад +728

    "I'm not a card cheat" That's exactly what a card cheat would say, Mr. Roy!

    • @mattroxursoul
      @mattroxursoul 3 года назад +8

      Confirmed

    • @Mster_J
      @Mster_J 3 года назад +9

      And that’s also what a person who genuinely isn’t a card cheat would also say lol 😂

  • @magic_opi
    @magic_opi 3 года назад +168

    Thank you for these demonstrations.
    It strengthens the quote "Never play cards for money with strangers".

    • @squelchedotter
      @squelchedotter 3 года назад +8

      Or just, play anything for money with anyone

    • @pie9568
      @pie9568 2 года назад +10

      @@squelchedotter nahh man gambling with friends is the funniest thing u can do

  • @gatauapaajalah
    @gatauapaajalah 3 года назад +462

    Other players: "You're cheating!"
    Daniel: "No I'm not"
    Other players: "Then how do you got pair of ace every single game?"
    Daniel: "umm..."

  • @shiroyt4185
    @shiroyt4185 3 года назад +94

    Gave himself 4 Kings, but unintentionally gives the lucky guy straight flush.

  • @roymizrachi7360
    @roymizrachi7360 3 года назад +121

    This is absolutely insane. I've been doing magic for the last three years, and started learning gambling moves in the last year and a half. Thanks to you I started learning stacking last month, and it's still no where near being good enough, but you're really an inspiration of mine when it comes to sleight of hand. Ngl, a month ago I didn't know you, but today I'm comparing you to people like Daniel Madison. Forme the top two guys I've seen are Ben Earl and Richard Turner, but damn you're getting close, keep working hard!

    • @DanielRoyMagic
      @DanielRoyMagic  3 года назад +37

      Regarding Gambling Sleight of Hand, study anything and everything Steve Forte has done -- he's in a league of his own. Jason England's Foundations Series is fantastic. To learn more about cheating techniques broadly, check out Gambling Scams by Darwin Ortiz. There are a few other people out there who are close to as good as Forte (like my friend whose hands you see at the end of the video), but for the most part they aren't publicly known at all.

    • @KingofGambling
      @KingofGambling 3 года назад +3

      Very nice moves of card cheating idol thank you for sharing

    • @roymizrachi7360
      @roymizrachi7360 3 года назад +6

      @@DanielRoyMagic yeah I assume the best are unknown, there's a quote that Madison uses a lot and it's true, yet unethical. "He who learned to cheat but doesn't has wasted his time". So the best are out there, using it for real, and not demonstrating it. Two weeks ago I got to learn about Steve forte, as I started researching for card stacking research. The only reason I didn't include him in that lost is only because all I got to see is one minute material of him which was crazy good, but I didn't get to get my hands on one of his books or something to truly understand how good he is. Is there anywhere I can just watch Steve Forte? For me sleight of hand is more interesting than magic, and I just want to watch the best

    • @DanielRoyMagic
      @DanielRoyMagic  3 года назад +12

      @@roymizrachi7360 his DVD set Gambling Protection Series is a must. If you’re really serious, go buy his two-volume book set “Gambling Sleight of Hand.” It’s only available from him, online.

    • @roymizrachi7360
      @roymizrachi7360 3 года назад +2

      @@DanielRoyMagic thank you, I will at some point for sure! Right now his material is way too expensive for me but I'm sure it has a good reason

  • @tiggert4002
    @tiggert4002 3 года назад +28

    I love how you demonstrated that it is possible to do this without looking. Whenever I see any clips from Richard Turner I forget that he is blind. The way he does things and his attitude make it seem like an insignificant thing.

    • @Medietos
      @Medietos 3 года назад +3

      Beethoven composed symphonies while deaf.Such skills come with practice, dedication, repitition, , giftedness, work...

  • @duffman18
    @duffman18 2 года назад +9

    Dude you're amazing. You're like Penn and Teller, where even when you are explaining exactly what you're doing and showing off the trick, it's actually _MORE_ impressive and _MORE_ mind blowing than when you're trying to hide it

  • @therizz6664
    @therizz6664 3 года назад +12

    Honestly, I'm going to follow your career in magic for a long, long time. Ricky Jay, Dai Vernon, Richard Turner would all be proud of what you can do.
    That is literally years of your life practising. Big respect

  • @user-ev7qw8oi7e
    @user-ev7qw8oi7e 3 года назад +292

    Mental Note: Never play cards with anyone who looks like Harry Potter.

    • @srizki
      @srizki 3 года назад +1

      Lol

    • @8Fist
      @8Fist 3 года назад +2

      yes, he does doesnt he

    • @varunkhemka5478
      @varunkhemka5478 3 года назад +2

      If Daniel raddiclif declines a role to any Harry Potter movie this guy would be perfect

    • @NStripleseven
      @NStripleseven 3 года назад +1

      well I mean yeah

    • @ahsanmohammed1
      @ahsanmohammed1 3 года назад

      Good one!

  • @KingstonCzajkowski
    @KingstonCzajkowski 2 года назад +2

    I love how at 3:57 he uses almost the exact patter Darwin Ortiz used for his Miracle Aces presentation - you can tell he's Ortiz's student!

  • @Lucifer__Morningstar_
    @Lucifer__Morningstar_ 3 года назад +26

    Wow, just wow! Such perfection.

  • @Rjkelly96
    @Rjkelly96 3 года назад +4

    The precision and control that you have over your cards is just unreal. So impressive.

  • @fahimfaisalayon5351
    @fahimfaisalayon5351 3 года назад +1

    Maestro of dealing cards. Watching u shuffling and handling is another level of pleasure.

  • @hasanmoudud8019
    @hasanmoudud8019 3 года назад +3

    I have been playing more than 10 card games for almost last 25 years. Still i felt like quitting card games after watching this amazing video. How come someone can be that good at cheating!!!

  • @OliB150
    @OliB150 3 года назад +87

    Such an interesting and impressive video. The only bit that confuses me though is if you were doing this at a game, how the hell would you pluck the kings out to get the on the top in the first place without everyone noticing?!

    • @alexandrbatora9674
      @alexandrbatora9674 3 года назад +18

      A really good memory of where they ended in the stack after the cards are picked once the previous game ended. I think that he's good enough to take the pack of cards from the table and know the position of two kings after looking at the deck for a mere split second.

    • @davidy22
      @davidy22 2 года назад +5

      It doesn't have to be kings in your hand every time you shuffle, a pair in hand every time it's your turn to shuffle gets you found out anyways. It's really just enough to know what the cards you're about to give another player are, safer too.

  • @j.p.7708
    @j.p.7708 3 года назад +2

    For some reason you seem to explain slight of hand better than the 100’s of videos put out by most magicians. Double lift 👍 up

  • @parva7152
    @parva7152 3 года назад +2

    I watched a video, thought this channel would have like 10 mil subs, checked and... 14.6k. Underrated.

  • @DigitalAndInnovation
    @DigitalAndInnovation Год назад +2

    This dude has basically taken the Penn and Teller approach to the next level. The fact that even when you know EXACTLY how it is done... it either holds up or makes the trick itself even better.

  • @perebasix
    @perebasix 2 года назад +4

    Upload more of these Daniel! Close up camera view is sick! Great job!

  • @gomezthechimp1116
    @gomezthechimp1116 3 года назад +11

    Many years ago I was seriously obsessed by these techniques, and I particularly liked Darwin Ortiz and Martin Nash, but I eventually realised that they`re really only for showing off and have no practical value whatsoever.
    Also, they`re really easy to defeat: just make sure three different people are involved in the shuffle cut and deal, and use a cut card.
    Don`t ever allow anyone to perform multiple cuts either: cut the deck once then the dealer completes the cut.

    • @DanielRoyMagic
      @DanielRoyMagic  3 года назад +29

      You make a good point about using more complex shuffling procedures. The rather sensational hands I end up with here are truly just for show, but some of the underlying techniques have real use. Why? Well, one thing I didn’t talk about in this video is this: most cheats don’t work alone, they work in a team. So let’s say you’re playing in a 6-handed game. You suspect one guy might be cheating. You might think, “well, there’s 5 us against just him,” but in reality, it’s all 5 of them against you. Furthermore, even just a team of two cheats is enough: one cheat culls the necessary cards after his deal, the other cheat riffle stacks them and sets a brief, and then the first cheat cuts at the brief. Maybe I’ll make a video about all this at some point.

    • @ethanhoward7192
      @ethanhoward7192 Год назад +1

      @@DanielRoyMagic that would be a great video

  • @FriedlandM
    @FriedlandM 3 года назад +1

    Your riffle stacking is incredible. Absolutely incredible.

  • @sahalin12345
    @sahalin12345 3 года назад +47

    There should be a channel where 5 chats/magicans play casualy poker and everyone tries to outplay the oher.

    • @aphotosyntheticworld
      @aphotosyntheticworld 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wouldn't whoever is dealing just win each hand one after another?

  • @wrightjeffd
    @wrightjeffd 5 месяцев назад

    This is the absolute best video I've ever seen on this. Thank you!

  • @charlie3449
    @charlie3449 3 года назад +5

    I love these demonstrations you do! Its doubly impressive because we know exactly how its done.

  • @allowishes06
    @allowishes06 3 года назад +7

    I just hate that I can't like this more. That is some high level craft. I love it.

  • @JugglerLou
    @JugglerLou 2 года назад +1

    For extra help (and extra laughs) go to 1:40 and set the speed to .5. It's hilarious to hear Daniel Roy set cards while he's drunk. HAHAHA!

  • @fivetimesyo
    @fivetimesyo 3 года назад +3

    Man, you have really motivated me to keep practicing guitar.

  • @nick0703
    @nick0703 2 года назад

    Wow that clip of staking was the best I've ever seen. Great video as always

  • @alex_cjjf7287
    @alex_cjjf7287 3 года назад +1

    I've read card College 1&2 and royal road to card magic... But this is just easy peasy explained! Amazing! Thanks a lot Tobey Maguire of CardMagic !

  • @ezequiel_reis
    @ezequiel_reis 3 года назад +5

    Great video!!!
    Stacking really is a fun thing to practise, you're gonna bang your head in the wall alot of times 😅 but when you start getting it it's amazing.
    Keep it up and stay safe
    Best of regards

  • @MeSauravSuman
    @MeSauravSuman 3 года назад

    I have no idea why I watch the videos on your channel, but its always fun. 😍

  • @AdemVessell
    @AdemVessell 3 года назад

    Outrageous. Out of this world my friend!

  • @floriandasilfa3044
    @floriandasilfa3044 3 года назад +97

    We now know what Harry Potter does in 2021

  • @Michael_Dangelo
    @Michael_Dangelo 3 месяца назад +1

    top 3 is a VERY bold statement

  • @schnauzerofdoom8819
    @schnauzerofdoom8819 2 месяца назад +1

    Amazing stuff, but there's one thing I don't understand. In every case you already knew where the cards were in the deck, usually right on top. How does an expert figure out where the cards are to begin with? Or can you only control cards mucked in the previous hand?

  • @angeleskimwelf.5678
    @angeleskimwelf.5678 2 года назад

    Bro you’re the reason I searched this up and your the one teaching it to me *utter defeat*

  • @samhodson6470
    @samhodson6470 Год назад

    Who was your inspiration to get this good. At first I didn't like you (my bad), but I really liked this video and really like how hard you work and you're willing to share your talent(s). Keep up the great work. I think what bugged me was how young you are and so good...again, this was my short coming. I really enjoy watching you.

    • @DanielRoyMagic
      @DanielRoyMagic  Год назад

      Darwin Ortiz, Ricky Jay, Steve Forte, Jason England, Richard Turner, etc. They're the pioneers of this stuff, I've learned everything from their resources or in some cases from them in person.

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams 2 года назад

    I think the best card mechanic I have ever seen is Richard Turner who is blind and yet can control the deck to deal any hand he wants to anybody he wants. He completely fooled Penn and Teller.

  • @KJ-bs2it
    @KJ-bs2it 3 года назад +2

    Wow practice does make perfect, thats just astonishing

  • @chicken-bone
    @chicken-bone Год назад

    Phenomenal card handling. Period.

  • @LearnMusclescom
    @LearnMusclescom 3 года назад

    Incredible!!! And thanks so much for the slow motion!

  • @marcof8002
    @marcof8002 3 года назад +2

    Absolutely amazing video this is exactly what I come to your for please continue this line content

  • @spexticular5533
    @spexticular5533 3 года назад +1

    I love how I am gonna use things like this for cards tricks, but he is teaching us how to gamble against our uncle's and always win.

  • @SciFiSciFi
    @SciFiSciFi 3 года назад

    its really cool that jan is teaching cardistry :-)

  • @LemuriaGames
    @LemuriaGames 3 года назад

    Amazing. I've watched a bit of Richard Turner and was blown away, but he never shows how he actually does it. Now I need to stop myself from learning this stuff because I simply don't have the time for it, but man do I want to. Full on triggered the nerd in me. :-)

  • @MrThrib
    @MrThrib 3 года назад +2

    Doesn't matter how many times I watch, or how much you explain. I still have absolutely no idea how you do it. I find riffle shuffling impressive - let alone precisely controlling how many cards go in between other cards.

  • @christalchannel979
    @christalchannel979 3 года назад

    This is too good to be true. What an amazing skill that can't be done in one time. Thank you sir for your video. Gbu

  • @duckmeister5385
    @duckmeister5385 3 года назад +1

    I recognize those hands!

  • @akbrlrmdhn
    @akbrlrmdhn 3 года назад +1

    presentasi yang bagus, mudah dimengerti, saya sangat menyukainya

  • @tonyt71
    @tonyt71 3 года назад +1

    Love the dealer cam with slow mo, way to step it up.

  • @elazarwitchel3008
    @elazarwitchel3008 3 года назад +2

    Great video and explanation!

  • @kenzini
    @kenzini 3 года назад

    Very nice moves, Daniel! So smooth!

  • @themisdirection9661
    @themisdirection9661 3 года назад

    Nice video! I'd highly recommend this for magicians wanting to learn how to stack the deck.

  • @ICEMAN-Z8
    @ICEMAN-Z8 3 года назад

    That true expert in the end really blew my mind

  • @quinnready2936
    @quinnready2936 3 года назад

    Two of my favorites are Richard Turner and Lennart Green

  • @endurorider974
    @endurorider974 3 года назад

    Oh man that was so beautiful 😱🤩! I think the more I discover new sleight of hand techniques the more I love it! I'm actually learning some riffle shuffle techniques from Card College 🙌. Of course the one from Erdnase is the next one 😉. Cheers! ✌

  • @davidhylton7528
    @davidhylton7528 3 года назад +1

    I love watching these tricks! So entertaining! Keep up the great work!

  • @sureshchandrajena9134
    @sureshchandrajena9134 3 года назад +1

    Congratulation brother.Really you are expert in card deal. We are extremely astonished to watch your alright of hand technique. You are master in the card trick. Thank you so much for your presentation and tutorials. May God bless you and grant you a very good healthy long life to entertain us. Let us help in teaching magic miracle.

  • @Tispaccoilculo92
    @Tispaccoilculo92 2 года назад

    Daniel is absolutely too good

  • @mindovermatter56
    @mindovermatter56 2 года назад

    Art of the deal. Excellent video!

  • @killerofold
    @killerofold 3 года назад

    Watched 3 of these videos now, lemme say you earned a new sub. This is amazing stuff!

  • @brianfuller757
    @brianfuller757 2 года назад

    It's amazing how many English colloquial expressions came from card games or wagering. "Stacking the deck " is one of the best known expressions as is "shill"

  • @MADEnAMERICA78
    @MADEnAMERICA78 3 года назад +1

    This is pure insanity. Wow!

  • @jkrjhn8
    @jkrjhn8 3 года назад

    Great video! I wish I had access to Mr. Z or Arnold, you are incredibly lucky to be able to learn from one of the best!

  • @paulyong5818
    @paulyong5818 3 года назад +2

    Brilliant!! Thanks 4 da video

  • @edwardalexander8904
    @edwardalexander8904 2 года назад

    Thanks for explaining! Subscribed!!

  • @ivansuraatmaja9097
    @ivansuraatmaja9097 3 года назад

    I dont want to play any card games with this man. ANY CARD GAMES.

  • @sithash
    @sithash Год назад

    Even explaining this , it seems magical

  • @ayawhilabtiakoyoutubeaccou1892
    @ayawhilabtiakoyoutubeaccou1892 2 года назад +1

    Thanks .. this explains how Doyle Brunson got 3x AA 2x QQ 2x KK in just one night of poker

  • @kurtchartrand723
    @kurtchartrand723 Год назад

    Awesome video, can you do more tutorial with the pov behind your hands

  • @ajacinth
    @ajacinth Год назад

    There is stacking the deck, then there is setting the deck. Stacking you have the cards you want in a groip prior to the shuffle, setting is where you pull the cards to the front where you want them during the shuffle. That is from a random deck as most decks are gathered. Setting the deck is more impressive beacuse it harder and looks more genuine if its done correctly.

  • @drrubedewalt6005
    @drrubedewalt6005 3 года назад

    You are amazing. Simply mind blowing.

  • @fxdgshovelhead
    @fxdgshovelhead 3 года назад

    Thanks for such great explanations and demonstrations.

  • @SugarShane13
    @SugarShane13 3 года назад

    How am I just now seeing your channel. Dude your a Wizard! Such cool stuff!

  • @vitaliysavchyshynatvitaliy9877
    @vitaliysavchyshynatvitaliy9877 2 года назад +1

    Where can I buy a table like yours? Please 🙏

  • @exploringspace5640
    @exploringspace5640 3 года назад +3

    Upload a detail video on double lift dude🤘🏻 even biggest magician flashes at double lift so please upload dude

  • @lordh5621
    @lordh5621 3 года назад +1

    play the formula at 0.25x for better understanding

  • @FriedlandM
    @FriedlandM 2 года назад

    Never seen anyone stack like Kim. Closest is SF. Incredible.

  • @spxctreofficial
    @spxctreofficial 3 года назад +2

    Mom be looking at me when I say "stacking the deck" out of context

  • @thevagabond3181
    @thevagabond3181 3 года назад +7

    Daniel Roy: tries to explain method
    Me: BURN THE WITCH!!

  • @redflamelcd
    @redflamelcd 2 года назад

    I love your videos cos of the insights. I think many would agree Richard Turner is the 🐐 but he doesn’t really go into his moves which is where the fascination is.

  • @infokubarcade
    @infokubarcade 3 года назад +2

    What just happened ? I mean, i know alot about card magic. But damn how can you consistantly deal cards like that ? Not sure this is humanly possible so congratulations : you are the first alien card guy i know. This is insane.

    • @infokubarcade
      @infokubarcade 3 года назад +1

      Oh and i met you on your "ten level" video that also lost me completely so ofc you won a sub for that.

  • @ramanabalachandhran
    @ramanabalachandhran 3 года назад

    Unbelievable hands and fingers

  • @theshowman452
    @theshowman452 3 года назад

    Lovely!
    We need more sleights,maybe center deal
    Love from Nepal

  • @salvucciomusumeci3781
    @salvucciomusumeci3781 Год назад

    thanks man i managed to top all yugi events after ur tutorial

  • @brainycheddar
    @brainycheddar 3 года назад

    So clean!

  • @ericm1839
    @ericm1839 3 года назад +26

    Daniel Roy might be good at manipulating the cards, but he missed one of the kings
    the king reading this comment

    • @ryankabcenel9700
      @ryankabcenel9700 2 года назад

      clever insertion of synchronicity alien dude... My name means "little king", and you dropped this here 11 months ago and it has 22 likes. But you knew that.
      I'm watching you alien bruh......

  • @gifzilla1818
    @gifzilla1818 Год назад

    Obsessed with forcing 'rifflestacking' into my vernacular

  • @AitoNitram
    @AitoNitram 3 месяца назад

    Table riffle faros are such a flex

  • @gongazi
    @gongazi 3 года назад

    Amazing presentation

  • @S98390
    @S98390 3 года назад

    Keep going you will get to the sky

  • @Dimebag4510
    @Dimebag4510 2 года назад

    Do you have a video about how to stack the deck after the wash?

  • @YeolKanemaki
    @YeolKanemaki 2 месяца назад

    Thank you so much for this amazing video! I have a quick question: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (behave today finger ski upon boy assault summer exhaust beauty stereo over). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

  • @smoothie33
    @smoothie33 2 года назад

    thanks you for this video Daniel

  • @Telepriester
    @Telepriester 2 года назад

    thanks for the nice video!
    do you have some tutorial on the false cut at ~2:51 / 3:30? :)

  • @DistrictAquaRoK
    @DistrictAquaRoK 3 года назад +2

    Great content keep it up

  • @capillarysystem
    @capillarysystem 3 года назад +4

    What can we do if someone at the table insists to cut, if we are expecting it can we still give ourselves the upper hand

    • @jorgeherrera1074
      @jorgeherrera1074 3 года назад +2

      How about don’t cheat? If you don’t allow the cut you are suspect.