Reference Points: Perpetual Calendar Chronographs From Patek Philippe

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2014
  • Welcome to the first in an ongoing series we're calling "Reference Points". In this series, we will be working backwards in a way, to tell all of you newer lovers of horology about some important watches that we feel make up the foundation of modern wristwatches. We've tried to give you tidbits of historical knowledge in several of our articles over the years - in particular those from the "Historical Perspectives" category - but now we're going even further. Today, in our first "Reference Points" feature, we're starting at the top and explaining to you the entire line of arguably the most important line of a single complication there is - perpetual calendar chronographs by Patek Philippe, from the very beginning. Read the whole story here: www.hodinkee.com/features/refe...
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  • @audemarspiguet4237
    @audemarspiguet4237 Год назад +11

    To this day, this episode remains one of my all time favourites from Hodinkee. Such quality

  • @eggymaticremit
    @eggymaticremit 8 лет назад +34

    As far as I have seen these are some of the best watches that exist.

  • @davidofglenbrook4487
    @davidofglenbrook4487 5 лет назад +9

    One of the greatest, most consequential, and beautiful watches ever made.

  • @Qubeizza
    @Qubeizza 10 лет назад +8

    Thank you so much for this! For someone who is just getting the hang of the watch-world this is pure gold. Might I ask how often you plan on releasing these? Amazing work.

  • @nima0071
    @nima0071 10 лет назад +79

    It's not about telling time you wanna tell time use you Cellphone. its heck of a lot cheaper then your 8K rolex. its about workmanship, Art, Complications.

    • @joncan2348
      @joncan2348 7 лет назад +4

      nim nim parvin
      Besides no quadruple Gyroscoptic Tourbillon can be as precise as an Atomic Clock, which satellite time and mobile phone time are based on.

    • @PopBubbleWrappable
      @PopBubbleWrappable 6 лет назад +4

      You want phone calls, emails, texts and notifications to follow you around everywhere you go, get a cell phone or a smart watch. You wanna know the time and nothing else, get a mechanical watch.

    • @a_single_white_female
      @a_single_white_female 5 лет назад +1

      I'd rather get a 10 dollar Casio to tell the time instead of a phone. A phone you have to take out of a pocket and press a button. I watch I can just move my eyes and *look* at.

    • @arunashamal
      @arunashamal 2 года назад

      you can take a plane ride from anywhere on earth and fly to italy and France and see and appreciate workmanship and art for heck of a lot cheaper than these Pateks

  • @photohum
    @photohum Год назад

    Reference points has to be the most important and fun videos to watch about some of my favorite watches! Bravo!

  • @dukewheeler7846
    @dukewheeler7846 7 лет назад +13

    To have a 5970 with the pushers of a 2499 would be a dream come true

  • @vernonestes
    @vernonestes 10 лет назад

    Another great video series, keep up the good work. I learn something new with every video.

  • @ginge82
    @ginge82 10 лет назад

    Best watch videos on RUclips. Love those Patek's.

  • @MikeBisney
    @MikeBisney 10 лет назад

    It's about time you all posted another vid...nice video!

  • @MeBiGn00b
    @MeBiGn00b 10 лет назад

    nice vid. looking forward to more in this series!

  • @mr.stogie766
    @mr.stogie766 3 года назад +4

    iam so glad i own a 5711, pateks craftmanship is just insane...im diggin for a 5004..in rose gold.

  • @logwind
    @logwind 10 лет назад

    Enjoyed this very much.

  • @locutusdborg126
    @locutusdborg126 10 лет назад +111

    I heard serious collectors are now looking at Invictas.

  • @likeris2
    @likeris2 8 лет назад +14

    5165, 5146, 5396, 5070, 5074.

  • @brosephstalin561
    @brosephstalin561 8 лет назад +38

    Casio F91W for the win.

  • @todorelojconfernando
    @todorelojconfernando 6 лет назад

    Fabulous work👍👍

  • @miguelschoedel7691
    @miguelschoedel7691 3 года назад

    Stunning

  • @titor8017
    @titor8017 5 лет назад

    This is just awesomeness

  • @waldoalexramosbenavente6729
    @waldoalexramosbenavente6729 10 лет назад

    great video ,

  • @lukes6134
    @lukes6134 8 лет назад

    Beautiful

  • @wysiwyg2489
    @wysiwyg2489 9 лет назад +15

    What happened at 2:07? The seconds hand stopped at 59?

    • @DenisTheMetalHead
      @DenisTheMetalHead 9 лет назад

      Wtf... I just noticed... That's weirddd

    • @collaberatorzseanhuang8952
      @collaberatorzseanhuang8952 9 лет назад +17

      : ) That means Matthew Mcconaughey is sending out SOS. He's in trouble in deep space. LOL

    • @locutusdborg126
      @locutusdborg126 9 лет назад

      COLLABERATORZ Ouija Able He is a ghost.

    • @SlopedOtter
      @SlopedOtter 8 лет назад +10

      They probably only wound the watch a tiny bit to get the video, it simply ran out of wind, these watches all require winding by hand

  • @nsebast
    @nsebast 7 лет назад +1

    Yep, that's the best watches allright. I will collect them once I hit 50s

  • @oraziomora8632
    @oraziomora8632 7 лет назад

    Grande !!👍👍

  • @richardstevens8839
    @richardstevens8839 9 лет назад

    Could we have Omega, Longines, Vacheron, JLC, Oris

  • @chrischang3924
    @chrischang3924 4 года назад

    Perpetual Calendar Day!

  • @jezyjean3503
    @jezyjean3503 7 лет назад +5

    how many people are subscribed to Hodinkee?

  • @rickj8859
    @rickj8859 5 лет назад +10

    The key issue here, is that Patek Philippe .. unlike Omega, Rolex, Zenith, JLC ... and many others .... are not vertically integrated outfit. They buy parts and sometimes ebauches from the likes of ETA, modify them and only assemble them in-house. They might be great at hand polishing the parts to a very high degree, but that is "not a watch making". In past, Patek had entire movements made for them by the likes of Jaeger le Coultre and by Girard Perregaux, hence why not buy Jaeger le Coultre in the first place.

    • @49fiori
      @49fiori 4 года назад +1

      Everything is about the design. What makes Patek "the best" is that they have the most beautiful watches. You know that the colours Picasso used were not made by him? Also the canvas was not made by him? Also the brushes where not "in-house" he outsourced everything, but what he put together is what counts. It's very similar with watches, Patek Philippe is art. Look, I agree with you, if you really care about the mechanics of the watch, yes, buy a perpetual calendar JLC in stainless steel at unbelievable price. That's a great watch, but, it's not beautiful, like most of the JLCs. Iconic yes, but not beautiful (I have many JLCs) and I have many Pateks, when I put a Patek like 5970 on my wrist I feel like a God, when I put JLC on my hand I feel smart, because few people understand how good those watches really are, but when I look at it, I don't feel the love I get from the Pateks. Same as with ALS and even FP Journe (the closest rival to Patek). Also, to buy all of these watches, it costs money, a lot of money, so you want to make sure that your money is safe. For that reason I buy Patek. Also, I started to buy FP Journe because it's inevitable their prices will go up, probably faster than most of the Pateks today. It's the beauty of the product that counts.

    • @GrubblandeGrapplern
      @GrubblandeGrapplern 2 года назад

      If it is true that Patek doesn't manufacture their own parts, that's a pretty big stink on their name. Doesn't matter if their watches are among the most beautiful in the business. I'm really disappointed if RickJ are right about this.

    • @rickj8859
      @rickj8859 2 года назад

      @49fiori You are a snob. But basically right when saying that Patek make nicely finished watches. Coming back to snobism. It was a while back, when I used to put bi-metal Rolex Daytona on my wrist every time I wanted to test drive the new Ferrari. Purely, because salesman at Maranello asked me silly questions about what I do and what I am driving ... if I wore Omega.

    • @rickj8859
      @rickj8859 2 года назад

      @49fiori I have some 35 watches ... and had couple of manual wind blue dial Patek Elipsis a long, long time ago ... since then, I have progressed a bit, although not in the same direction as you obviously. FP Journe makes beautiful and unique watches, but I am more Breguet, Ulysse Nardin and JLC, or IWC sports watches guy. Although that I do have bit of everything.

    • @rickj8859
      @rickj8859 2 года назад

      @Faustian Funk Look at Lemania movements in last year's manual Omega Speedmaster 1863 (Moonwatch) and compare them to some of Patek Philippe movements. The fabulous Patek CH 2770 movement is Lemania 2310 ... in everything but name. Even their $100,000+ watches use Swatch parts, or entire Swatch movements. Whilst I am not saying that other watchmakers like Breitling, or IWC don't do the same? They don't usually hide it. Half of Swiss watch industry use ETA-Valjoux, or Lemania movements, with add on modules by the likes of Dubois-Depraz. It is only in last few years, that major brands started to produce in-house movements (one type only, in most cases), whilst they still use ETA for majority of their watch models.

  • @simpleme1279
    @simpleme1279 5 лет назад

    i would luv to buy every day one of it ...

  • @josephadas41
    @josephadas41 6 лет назад +2

    isn't the 1518 case 35mm in diameter not 36mm?

  • @emanmatahelang1027
    @emanmatahelang1027 6 лет назад +2

    Can it wear with nato strap?

  • @gmshadowtraders
    @gmshadowtraders 7 лет назад +2

    These are some of my daily beaters, no big deal really they look nice enough

  • @rayansailani4465
    @rayansailani4465 5 лет назад +1

    This guy's voice is soo deeeeep.. He should be into podcasts.

  • @brunorehder4250
    @brunorehder4250 5 лет назад +15

    *That’s like 15 million worth of watches*

    • @vincent5
      @vincent5 2 года назад +1

      Nope. More like 3 million

  • @satanstrilogy2288
    @satanstrilogy2288 9 лет назад

    Wow!

  • @ryanburbridge
    @ryanburbridge 9 лет назад +3

    What happened to the chrono second at 2:02 it just slows and stops?

    • @GRAFHC
      @GRAFHC 9 лет назад

      If you watch the seconds hand at 9 o'clock, it appears to strike the hour hand and jam the train. This forces the watch to stop the transfer of energy.

    • @rondj1965
      @rondj1965 9 лет назад +2

      GRAFHC
      Not something you would want to see in a watch of this magnitude.

  • @claudioalejandrosantislara2597
    @claudioalejandrosantislara2597 5 лет назад

    Patek Phillipe. No es un reloj Cronografo. Es una obra de Arte. El puzon de Ginebra

  • @user-iq8id8ty5x
    @user-iq8id8ty5x 6 лет назад

    How much price in $

  • @Mirceabalea
    @Mirceabalea 4 года назад +1

    2499 is the best watch ever made :D

  • @r.k4895
    @r.k4895 5 лет назад +1

    1:54

  • @g0uki69
    @g0uki69 10 лет назад

    Why does the 5970P not have a deployment?

    • @rondj1965
      @rondj1965 9 лет назад

      To keep the price down? JK!

  • @PandaPower3195
    @PandaPower3195 9 лет назад +1

    Can someone explain to me why the 5970 is so iconic? I understand that its gorgeous but whats more to it? Im very curious!!!

    • @locutusdborg126
      @locutusdborg126 9 лет назад

      PandaPower3195 I prefer the 5070, which lacks the day and date but looks more elegant.

    • @shanehau9572
      @shanehau9572 8 лет назад +1

      +PandaPower3195
      It's sort of a tribute to the 1518, the first perpetual calendar chronograph patek ever made, so i guess it's sort of special in the lineage that way. My fav is the 5204 though, which is not in this video.

    • @PandaPower3195
      @PandaPower3195 8 лет назад

      Oh thats actually pretty cool, thank you for explaining that. I'm particularly in love with the 1463!

  • @Madmax-fm7mh
    @Madmax-fm7mh 8 лет назад +45

    I have a casio XD

  • @burritomaker69
    @burritomaker69 5 лет назад +4

    Is no one going to mention how the watch malfunctions @2:07

  • @highnrising
    @highnrising 4 года назад +1

    I bet the typical owner of one of these Patek perp calendar chronographs brings the watch back to the store whenever he needs to set it. Unless he has a 13-year-old nephew whom he trusts to set it for him.

  • @Spudst3r
    @Spudst3r 9 лет назад +2

    Why do I need the month on my watch?

    • @TheCls63
      @TheCls63 8 лет назад +12

      Why would you beed the Moon Phase on the watch? Right? Its just to show the craftsmanship and complication.

    • @NukeProofSuit
      @NukeProofSuit 8 лет назад +17

      +Spuds7er Why are you watching this video?

    • @ShaheenJadidi
      @ShaheenJadidi 8 лет назад +1

      +Spuds7er Why?

    • @tylero8595
      @tylero8595 8 лет назад +9

      Because you can.

    • @Spudst3r
      @Spudst3r 8 лет назад +1

      Will be really handy when I get abducted by aliens I guess.

  • @bojabang2188
    @bojabang2188 4 года назад

    Big tie.

  • @qris4165
    @qris4165 6 лет назад

    One day, I promise!

  • @CokeWithIceAndLemon
    @CokeWithIceAndLemon 2 года назад +1

    the shpitz indeed!

  • @veevee9015
    @veevee9015 2 года назад

    How much

  • @nyc2malibu
    @nyc2malibu 10 лет назад

    if only ....but ya never know !

  • @hazelguilas815
    @hazelguilas815 6 лет назад +1

    I have a Patek phillipe and I got it for $10 at the garage sale.

  • @rickj8859
    @rickj8859 4 года назад

    If you want the best, you buy Jaeger le Coultre, or IWC perpetual 100 year calendar watches ... and not Patek with 1 year perpetual (?) calendar ...
    after all it was Patek, who used to use Jaeger (as well as Lemania, Girard Perregaux and others) movements ... and not vice versa.

  • @MrPasqual1
    @MrPasqual1 4 года назад

    200 bucks each!? I take them all!

  • @HoperehabcenterthailandAsia
    @HoperehabcenterthailandAsia 3 года назад

    Dear Gentlemen the closest I can get to anything like these are my collection of 4 mint Omega Cosmic moon phase triple dates in various sizes and metals however they feel shpitsy to me - I have promised myself to start with Patek next year, still got a few more Rolie to get

  • @jw999
    @jw999 Год назад

    The end of the road!!!

  • @JohnSmith-xq6cv
    @JohnSmith-xq6cv 6 лет назад

    one day

  • @SP-pn7xx
    @SP-pn7xx 7 лет назад +5

    5270 is the best IMO (not in this video)

  • @andrewvillanueva4222
    @andrewvillanueva4222 7 лет назад

    l have a Rolex submarine gilt dial 5513

  • @aloyzaselytezalimai7601
    @aloyzaselytezalimai7601 8 лет назад +1

    Noreciau pirkti. kiek kainuoja

  • @user-wo7rn3uv4f
    @user-wo7rn3uv4f 3 месяца назад

    An apartment produces at least 5%/year in rent and another 5% (min) in value. I have 5 replicas - 2 Pateks (1 a complication), Rolex, Breitling and a Cartier. About US1K each. Everyone says -"Great watch you have there, expensive eh?". Yes I say. "This one (the complicated Patek) I bought when I made the 1st million". Been making anywhere from 500k to 1M every year for the last 5 years trading sovereign bond futures. 😅🤣😂

  • @fernandomelgar748
    @fernandomelgar748 8 лет назад

    there very nice watches, but not many people can afford this:/

  • @benedictyarahmadi4428
    @benedictyarahmadi4428 8 лет назад

    SAINT MICHAEL TIME WACH

  • @rashad123us
    @rashad123us 9 лет назад +5

    Arabic numerals are actually Hindu-Arabic numerals. It urks me every time someone calls them arabic numerals.

    • @gasb911
      @gasb911 9 лет назад +1

      The ones on the watch are Arabic numerals not Hindu-Arabic numerals

    • @rashad123us
      @rashad123us 9 лет назад +4

      ***** They're actually the same thing, except one name fails to credit Hindus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

    • @granthart7120
      @granthart7120 7 лет назад

      Peep peep little bird.

    • @watchguy79
      @watchguy79 5 лет назад

      Arabic numerals

    • @Rancid_Ziggy
      @Rancid_Ziggy 3 года назад

      What a stupid thing to be upset about

  • @Daijobustory
    @Daijobustory 5 лет назад

    nearly 2 mil in one tray.

    • @tryitout-701
      @tryitout-701 4 года назад

      Daijobustory a lot more than that

  • @sany853
    @sany853 8 лет назад

    🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

  • @blackjesus9641
    @blackjesus9641 2 года назад

    uncut jams

  • @eustab.anas-mann9510
    @eustab.anas-mann9510 9 месяцев назад

    Oyyyy veyyyyy

  • @sniparr9474
    @sniparr9474 5 лет назад

    All I heard was "Well yes Ben they do all look the same and are incredibly overpriced"

    • @JR-hi9bu
      @JR-hi9bu 4 года назад

      Good one Toby! Very funny! Hahaha! That was me laughing! I wanted to indicate that I was laughing in real life! Hahaha! I did it again! Hahaha! I don't know what's come over me! Hahaha! Hahaha! Hahaha!

  • @alfonsofranco1984
    @alfonsofranco1984 2 года назад

    SUS ESCUELAS MUY SEGURAS Y CENTROS COMERCIALES EXENTAS DE BALASTRAS VERDAD !!!!!!! .

  • @theRealAV8r
    @theRealAV8r 10 лет назад +3

    patek rolex patek patek rolex patek patek patek rolex patek....
    ...what about TIMEX?????!!!

    • @locutusdborg126
      @locutusdborg126 9 лет назад +2

      theRealAV8r What about Invicta?

    • @2deep5u
      @2deep5u 5 лет назад

      This is a shitter free zone! Shoo shoo!

  • @yktam007
    @yktam007 6 лет назад

    Cheating

  • @joeyalfaro2323
    @joeyalfaro2323 3 года назад

    They look like some crap you'd by at flee market. Never use gator or alligator strap. Trust me they skin things then throw body's to their buddy's.

  • @NextcoreProgramming
    @NextcoreProgramming 4 года назад

    For slave owners, not slaves. Beautiful

  • @worththewatch1517
    @worththewatch1517 4 года назад +3

    Is the guy on the right a Jew ?

  • @shafserious2805
    @shafserious2805 7 лет назад +7

    Jews not allowed to wear gold! not good.

    • @JohnSmith-xq6cv
      @JohnSmith-xq6cv 6 лет назад +1

      Just Muslims I thought

    • @willsmith1170
      @willsmith1170 5 лет назад

      You’re mistaken. Some Muslim sects don’t wear gold, jews and cristians can wear gold if they want.

  • @bonkersblock
    @bonkersblock 10 лет назад

    i'll stick with my ROLEX! if you can tell time on a watch that 200 grand? you can tell time on a watch that is 8 grand!!

    • @gabrielkeenan
      @gabrielkeenan 10 лет назад +2

      Well, good for you that you have one and spent 8 grand in it, Rolexes are fantastic watches. But the point of this video is not just "telling time", it's about one of the the best complications ever made.

    • @jaime4022
      @jaime4022 9 лет назад +9

      Jude Francis Ballares : ... Your point being? Your comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Unless its sole purpose was that of telling the world that you own a Rolex? By your own logic, we could also argue that other people might stick to their timex and Invicta watches, because if you can tell time on one of those, then you don't need the 8,000.00 Rolex. Someone saying something like that here, would be every bit as unnecessary and nonsensical as your remark is. All this being said, did you not watch the video and noticed that these are perpetual calendars, and as such, they give more information than what you could gather from a regular three hand watch as most Rolex are? Do you understand what a perpetual calendar is? A mechanical watch that will give you the correct time, day, date, and year (some of which, as presented here, also have a chronograph function) without having to adjust them until around the year 2100? All this from a mechanical instrument? What comparison is it you are even trying to make here?

    • @haruyamagucci4622
      @haruyamagucci4622 7 лет назад +3

      *That's what a seiko owner once said about my Rolex. To each his own! Cheers from Bangor, Maine where recreational marijuana is absolutely legal and home prices are some of the lowest in the entire nation.*

  • @nintendokings
    @nintendokings 4 года назад +1

    Of course its a Jew owning a store like this lol

  • @zobayedhassain5302
    @zobayedhassain5302 Год назад

    Jews ✡ ?