@@hwetl9 Well, maybe, but that assumes that Nacon could get the rights to all the same makes and models in order to make the remaster. While Hot Pursuit got a remaster, that's largely because EA is one of the biggest companies in gaming and has the kind of money that they can comfortably throw at such a project; a smaller publisher like Nacon might not have those kinds of resources. Then again, Nacon was able to secure the rights to some of the biggest automotive names for solar crown, so maybe...
I choose to just keep expectations low for now. There's so many strategies between different dev teams so just because there's no gameplay yet, there are reasons for it. What those are I just refuse to speculate in. I will evaluate proof when I see it. Thankfully GT7 will be released about the same time and I at least refuse to believe that both will flop. I want both though.
if being small ensures that KT racing actually delivers a quality racing game, we're all for it! While the size of older games was a nice novelty, the fact is that it also demonstrated a major flaw of prioritizing size over everything else; lots of open, empty space with very little to do. Like butter spread over too much bread, the nice elements of the open world are few and far between on an overly large map. A smaller map means more concentrated fun and an easier development. Win-win!
@@dankswank9088 true, but youre still talking about a racing game here and if they were to make it 1:1 you would basically have no straights to drive the cars top speed since hong kong island isnt that big and if you look at a map of it you will basically see the only straight it has is one underground tunnel- other than that i 100% agree with what you just said
@@LS-tk7hp I mean, it worked for Forza Horizon, and Solar Crown's map (assuming it is limited to Hong Kong island) would be larger than the one for Horizon 4, so it's hardly tiny compared to the competition.
@Fabrice level design is of paramount importance for an open world racing game, and having a large map mitigates the ability of a developer to design an engaging map (especially when it’s based on a real-world location). Our original point clearly went over your head; we weren’t saying we needed a pop-up of a new race event every 5 feet to enjoy the open world but that we need engaging roads to drive, and by having such a vast map in the first game, the fun roads were spaced out by empty, boring commutes across the map. If they can somehow manage to get a giant map to be packed with fun roadways in the year and change that they have to develop the game then great, but otherwise, a smaller, more concentrated world would be better.
I hope the developers are not desperately trying to reach too wide an audience. Many of my favourite game series have unfortunately been watered down too much in recent years to please too many people. I hope they stay true to the game principle and develop it further in a sensible way.
Its OK to point out these thing and not get called a hater. we saw similar practices with CP77, FO76, Anthem and many more big gaming fuckups. Kylotonn so far has stated that Nacon their parent company is telling them to shut it. But everything is still really weird.
You sound too professional to only have 600 subscribers! Keep the Solar Crown content up! 🙌 Edit: woah I didn’t even notice the balanced like to dislike ratio until i left a like. After being burned by Cyberpunk 77, I do truly feel like these are all things we genuinely should be worried about in an industry where more and more long-time companies are not learning from the disasters of Fallout 76 or Anthem, especially with the graphics situation. I know the game is still far from release and absolutely nothing is certain about the outcome of TDUSC therefore we shouldn’t be accusing the game of having bad features based on CGI trailers alone... But everything he said in this video has already happened to other beloved franchises from once praised companies one too many times, even ages before the game launched. I don’t know if Nacon has favored microtransactions in their products before, but It’s only right that we start “””preaching””” (for lack of better words) these kinds of things to the devs and let them know to take their time to make the game right for the people who are actually looking forward to it. Only then will the game be successful, and it will gain the traction and profit a company would want… or something like that; i aint no business entrepreneur. If we don’t actively and positively remind the devs to stay in their lane no pun intended, then we’ll end up with another PROJECT CARS 3. I’m not a hater or a fanboy, I’m just a man who likes the thrill of arcade racers, and There is no saying that KT Racing won’t fall into greed and dirty profit desperation like many other beloved game publishers have. So i think this video is onto something. (I disagree with the 1st point tho; I remember Overwatch also liked showing off their Short Film talents to attract attention while the game was still cooking.) #KeepExpectationsLow #WaitForReviews (from actual racing fans, Not IGN)
Thank you for your support, my man! We're gonna focus on Forza Horizon 5 for a little bit, but we'll be back on Solar Crown as soon as more info comes out!
>(from actual racing fans, Not IGN) and lest we not forget about big-time YT influencers like YongYea too, they're literally just as corrupt as IGN after the whole Cyberscam debacle
Surprising to see so many dislikes, you brought up many excellent points. I do sincerely hope that they don't overemphasize the "lifestyle" portion of the game, the sprinkled on elements of clothing, appearance and houses are meant to augment the experience; you rightly note that TDU 2 went too far with it. On the flipside, the rush to release the game MIGHT actually mean they will directly port the WRC 9 driving physics over to TDUSC without spending too much time ruining it with arcady physics (we can only wish).
I mean, that’s certainly one potential upside, though we wonder what other parts of the mage might be compromised as a result of that rush (not to mention excessive crunch put on the developers)
This guy gets it. The people getting hyped don't. Please don't get over hyped for this game. You WILL be disappointed. Kt racing has made racing games before, I get that. But open work racers are a completely different story. Y'all are looking at the tdu franchise with rose tinted glasses, its not gonna be as good as what you expect. Then you got dumb RUclipsrs out there hyping everyone up throwing around maps like Tenerife, and when the developers reveal something much smaller, they get underwhelmed. Who's fault is that? You have to understand that seasoned developers like EA and Playground games even after years of making open world racers, still struggle to out out competent games out there. What makes people think that the first open world racing game made by a developer is going to be like the second coming of Jesus? I want this game to be good. But so far, all we got is 3 CGI trailers, hyping everybody up and nothing as much as a screenshot of the actual game. We've been at this place with so many games before yet y'all never learn! Don't worry about the dislike man, they're just overhyped at this point. We have every right to worry. Revealing the release date before we have even gotten a smidge of gameplay. While they're perfectly content with showing us gameplay of all their other games. Don't get me wrong. I want to be proven wrong. I want this comment to age like milk. But the daunting task of making an open world racer on a 1:1 scale map, licensing super cars, making these cars fun and distinct to drive making an mmo, maintaining severs, and making the game fun, I almost definitely too much for a studio who has had no prior experience in making racing games. and need I tell u that WRC is their only successful franchise. Their other game VRally4 was not as well received. So calm yourselves down and brace for impact.
Thank you for getting it, man. So many people think we want the game to suck for some reason or think we’re trying to drag it down and they don’t get that it is healthy and crucial for the game industry for all of us to be critical of the things we love in order to push publishers and developers to be better. And you are dead-on; so many people simply refuse to learn from the past, and in doing so, doom all of us to repeat it!
"Then you got dumb RUclipsrs out there hyping everyone up throwing around maps like Tenerife" damn bro, I mean the guess wasn't dumb, it was pretty damn educated but anyway, but to each their own! Not that HKI is a bad island choice regardless especially since we might go beyond HKI anyways. Always easy to chat shit I guess tho ;) Also, "You WILL be disappointed" is a bit of a dumb statement, people can still be hyped, but be reasonable about it, there's nothing wrong with hype. And same way how people assume the games going to be good, you can't assume it'll be a dissapointment. Neither side of the spectrum can talk. People that bash people for being hyped are low lifers, no other way to say it. Frankly I don't have the time to type out an essay combating every silly point you made here but for people like you, I hope KT smash it. Tired of all the complainers
@@TheAlexVII I mean, we aren’t against that kind of speculation (though we do resent how a lot of people like AR12 and others create deliberately misleading titles meant to insinuate that a bunch of new details about the game have been “revealed”) I don’t even think that the original commenter is against speculation so much as the disproportionate weight put on speculation and the uncritical fanboy culture surrounding games these days in which mild criticism is seen by the fans (who haven’t even played the game yet) as heresy.
@@dankswank9088 Except I never have done that? So you bringing up this AR12 example is pointless. As I said, Tenerife was a LOGICAL guess, I never once said confirmed, ever. There's nothing wrong speculaitng and guessing an island, there's also nothign wrong about being hyped for a game. People who say otherwise are just at low-lifers. Why drag your hatful opinion on to others who don't feel the same way? Peopel can be critical, but saying things like this dev hasn't done x so they won't be good at doing x is stupid. Anyway, this convo is pointless loool, especially since YOU made two videos about why you're worried about TDU SC lmao
@@TheAlexVII imagine criticizing someone else’s decisions while going on an unhinged tirade calling them low-lives. Why is the fan base so toxic? Why is mild criticism all it takes for people to fly off the handle and make an anime opening-based roast to try to shame people into submission? Seriously, why?
Why are people so triggered by this video. I get it... We've been waiting for over a decade for a new tdu and we're finally getting one. But remember. Tdu2 was a disaster when it first launched. And the Test Drive series as a whole doesn't have the greatest track record for quality games. This goes all the way back to Test Drive 4. Be cautiously optimistic. Not hyped... That's the point these videos are trying to make.
Thank you for getting it. So many people have such a cultish attitude about the franchise that they see anything said about the game that isn’t blind hype as an attack! We even saw a guy make a “response video” that condescendingly talked down to us and said we were objectively wrong about our subjective opinions! People are crazy sometimes...
@@dankswank9088 Well as a true and realistic Test Drive fan since Test Drive 5, I have to say thanks for speaking up about these concerns. They needed to be addressed.
I mean I honestly cannot believe that people still had faith left in game companies after the cyberpunk's failure and it certainly not really helping that TDUSC benefitted a lot from the severe lack of (good) racing games on this generation esp. on PS4 that led this game had been propped up as the 2nd coming of christ of racing games lately
Eden Games only had limited experience with racing games, with zero experience of open world racing. It could have bugs if they are trying to set new standards as with TDU2 which was way ahead of its time and in some respects suffered because of that.
A few people have mentioned that. We agree that this is a good reason to be hopeful, but it's also important to know that the first TDU is an exception to the rule, and more often than not, studios struggle creating something that isn't in their wheelhouse (for examples, look at the laundry list of developers EA murdered because they were forced to make something in a genre for which they had no prior experience making games). Considering that even seasoned developers often flop when making games in genres that are their bread and butter, we remain nervous for the game's future.
Nacon is listening to their fans compared to these other companies. Just because they don't show any gameplay doesn't mean it is automatically bad. Nacon is the creators of WRC 9, a game that has some great physics. They are not aiming to replace Forza and Grand Turismo. Their goal is to create a new game to add to the racing game genre. In this game, they are planning to add features such as housing, gambling, and a more realistic world. The problem back when the first 2 games were released was their marketing strategy. The game didn't really get a lot of attention, but if you look at the rating of the games they score pretty high. Edit: I don't think there's anything to worry about. Unless what you are expecting is a game that will outclass Forza and Turismo in graphics, physics, and sound because that was never their intentions.
While it is certainly encouraging to know that Nacon has set up a suggestion box of sorts through discord, this would not be the first time a publisher has disingenuously said that they were "listening to the fans". Not showing gameplay does not necessarily mean that the game is bad, but it does not bode well. To clarify, Nacon is publishing the game and not making it (that's KT racing), but developer KT has great experience.
just because they "listening to fans" like he said doesn't meant we had to putting them up on the pedestal, Bethesda, Blizzard, and everyone's favorite CD Projekt Red we're used to be the chosen ones until F76, Warcraft Reforged, and that certain futuristic "the next generation of open world adventure" came along and everyone had turned against these companies for betraying their trust
I feel like most of these are 100% speculation and not really based on anything but worse case scenarios that could apply to literally any game. The only solid point here is how we haven’t seen actually gameplay. And I use the term “solid” pretty liberally as the game is over a FULL YEAR away from release.
Literally anything any youtuber says about this game right now is speculation because that's all we can do. All of these are valid concerns substantiated by the history of the game industry as a whole. Pre-rendered trailers are often used to hide a bad game. Open world games do have unique challenges that are difficult for inexperienced developers to surmount. A year of time is an incredibly tight deadline for an inexperienced developer to make an open world game meant to compete against Forza Horizon and The Crew. A game focusing on wealth and cosmetic features is a prime candidate for microtransactions and post-launch monetization. "Worst case scenarios could apply to literally any game"
@@dankswank9088 My point isn’t that these concerns aren’t valid, it’s that these concerns are valid for almost any game if you make the video early enough. You did an excellent job producing this video, but it just feels like there’s nothing behind these concerns other than “hey, here’s a lot of stuff that can go wrong with a game, nearly any game, but this one is hyped and it’s too early to tell, so this one.”
@@ZoMTDU agreed, though we’d prefer if the handling model from TDU1 got refined and updated to modern gameplay standards. The first game is still fun, but the handling is a bit rough by modern standards
You made some very fair points. I really hope this game doesn't disappoint, I have high hopes for it. I thoroughly enjoyed playing through the first TDU, acquiring new cars and luxurious houses, and just driving around and exploring. I didn't play much of TDU2, the physics were kinda weird and I didn't really enjoy driving in that game. But I really hope this game captures the essence of the first TDU.
Same here. The first Test Drive Unlimited was the entire reason I got an Xbox 360, and the potential for this game to recapture the immersive automotive fantasy that defined that game is exciting... we just know all-to-well how often the videogame industry destroys the dreams of its customers.
Gameplay precedes graphics for sure, but it would also be a shame if the demands of the open world and cross-gen release meant that Solar Crown has PS2 visuals...
Second, it's a true open world automotive oriented game with real location on 1:1 scale, which distinguishes this game from rest of the racing games.. Also you have not seen any second of footage from the gameplay so chill out & wait...
"Chill out and wait" is how every big disappointing game was allowed to manifest in the last generation; waiting is how Anthem, cyberpunk, fallout 76, the order 1886, assassins creed unity, Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2, and so many others released with massive issues. Like a cavity in a tooth, issues with a videogame need to be addressed BEFORE they manifest in reality (prevention is the best treatment) to ensure that they don't become issues when the game is in our hands. "Chill out and wait" is how we get always online, glitchy, hyper-monetized, and broken games.
@@dankswank9088 There's ultimately absolutely NOTHING we can do as an audience except sit here and wait, and just... don't preorder. As to the publisher and dev? Well by all reason they already know what kind of game we expect and what would leave us satisfied, or should know, we aren't difficult to find and ask, and all the discussion is out there. If they don't, then they won't listen either! I mean you do bring up valid concerns, but you just can't prevent bad and underdeveloped games from happening, all you can do ultimately is not encourage this practice. What i personally expect? Given it targets the Switch, a last-gen-ish low-budget-ish game, which is more similar to TDU2 in production value than to Forza Horizon 3/4, and likely below The Crew 2. TDU has shown that it's not that impossible to represent a dense urban environment in a very simplified form on a limited budget; Buildings can be barely more detailed than boxes, most streets will be hinted at but completely blocked off, it'll still be 1:1 geographically, and it can be perfectly fine like that. It doesn't matter much how tall a box is regarding its cost, a box is a box. It's certainly not a game with insane ambitions of CP2077 or AC U, nor a game built on known broken and shaky foundation unlike F76. I think this is just about the best case, obviously things can go wrong in a number of ways. I do think the CG trailers overhype the target they're aiming for by a LOT, but i also feel they're getting their money's worth for these, as they'll probably be in the game's attract mode or intro to set the mood, and they don't have to be an accurate representation of the game for that, pure hype in cutscenes is perfectly fine.
No matter how you try to convince yourself... The map is too small. Forza Horizon is relevant because they provide DLC and huge support after launch. I doubt this gets any of that sort. It's an open world racing game. It is meant to be filled with races. You don't need to fill every nook and cranny when big map in it self is something that brings content to a game like this. You can't have enough variety in small map. This just feels like a cash grab with old IP name tagged onto it. I was hoping for this to be a remaster with Ibiza, Oahu and additional island.
While we can agree that this does feel like a cash-grab on the part of Nacon, we still don't know if the map will be limited to Hong Kong island or if it will extend to parts of the mainland. It may not be as small as we think, but even if it is still smaller than prior TDU games, given the density of driving terrain on the island, it's hard for us to feel like the game won't benefit from a more concentrated open world.
Same here; there’s just too much going against the game at the moment and without a delay of the release date we just can’t see this coming together by launch day
@@dankswank9088 also in my opinion they just don’t have the development experience to pull off such a massive project. I think this is going to make Cyberpunk look like an actually polished game.
This are all valid point, but at the end of the day do not matter because we have waited for this games for years. Besides who has played TDU doesn’t expect a triple A game like FH series.
@@dankswank9088 hmm, then again, eden had no experience prior to tdu1 and before that like kt, they were a French racing studio that specialized in rally games, unlike kt however (which has around 4-5 years of development time for tdusc according to nacon themselves,) eden was under the scum of what was known as 2000s to early 2010s Atari. And they succeeded. It's being developed by many of the same people that worked on the first two tdu games like Alain jairnou. I wouldn't get too hung up about it because the discord has already requested them to not have stuff like lootboxes a full year ago, and the community manager confirmed dealerships.
@@raykreiger4123 we’ve heard varying reports on the total development for the game, but regardless, that’s a fair point regarding Eden games, so we may be pleasantly surprised by Solar Crown’s depiction of Hong Kong. That said, while it’s good that people have been railing against loot boxes from early on, it wouldn’t be the first time a publisher pushed their developer to go against the wishes of the customers or break the promises they made to limit monetization. Fingers crossed they follow through with fan requests 🤞
@@dankswank9088 while many people compare it to cb2077, I tend to compare it with ace combat 7, a game that managed to live up to it's promises under modern day bandai namco, which should've been impossible. My stance on it is, it will likely be a good game, the dealerships and physics should add plenty of flavor to it. whether or not it can revolutionize the industry like tdu1 did however is yet to be seen, but I prefer having slight optimism thanks to ac7 then negativity from cyberpunk. Being cautious is still important though.
@@raykreiger4123 you have good reason to be optimistic; we suppose our concern is largely out of the fact we care so much about this game (the first TDU was the reason I got an xbox 360 and started playing videogames in the first place) and know how the AAA industry these days so happily puts squeezing every conceivable penny out of their audience over all other considerations.
The setting confuses me, is it just Hong kong island?? The map shown in the trailer has main bridges to mainland hong Kong dotted out (suggesting its not drivable).. However the trailer also shows an absolutely massive container port.. Which is NOT anywhere on hong Kong Island, not that I can find anyway. I'm just confus
The lack of clarification and pre-rendered nature of the trailer makes it difficult to know - Nacon has claimed that KT Racing recreated Hong Kong Island at a 1-to-1 scale for use in Solar Crown's open world, but they did not confirm or deny whether or not Hong Kong Island would be the only drivable area in the open world. Assuming that KT racing follows in the footsteps of the earlier games, we would guess that the island represents a center point for the world and the various bridges would connect to other parts of the map, but we cannot know until gameplay is actually revealed.
@@dankswank9088 you can also see a silhouette of a pedestrian when the huracan is racing the i8 after they turn a corner, suggesting of pedestrians, but again this is a render trailer, so digital artists can put anything in to bling it up. In game screen shots or gameplay would really set us at ease right about now
between the always online point in the last video and the lootbox point made it this video, its becoming painfully easy to believe that this will be the racing equivalent of anthem or destiny; this disposable, super-monetized live service that lives only to nickle and dime kids while dragging the series name through the dirt ... how depressing
Again, we really hope we're wrong about this game and the direction it seems to be taking; there's still a lot of ambiguity regarding the game's structure and modes, so hopefully this is just the result of our conditioning by the AAA industry and not reflective of KT and Nacon's vision. That said, it cant hurt to let them know that we don't want this kind of stuff in the game!
Лучше пускай опаздают с релизом ну сделают все так как надо, и для души что бы все получали удовольствие от моря красивых машин роскошных домов, безграничной езды по острову с различными парковками, парками, озерами или даже морями и красивыми местами в целом , и можно ещё добавить много элементов в плане настройки авто, персонажа, и конечно же режимов и событий
Совершенно верно - чем больше у них будет времени, чтобы сделать игру с отложенным выпуском, тем лучше (Извините, если это звучит странно, я использую Google Transalte)
September 22, 2022 is the release date at present, though we hope the game gets delayed so KT racing can overcome any of the many issues that can occur while making a game over such a tight deadline.
you forgot another point, how long they will keep supporting the game, considering they gave very little post content to all their previous racing game, V-Rally 4 had 4 or 5 dlc cars and that was it, theyr TT bike game had the same deal and they just abandoned it and released a second game, WRC is a sport game so i'll give it a break, but the new RIMS Bike game has already a lot of dlc at launch and lacks content, all though at least where i live (which is 3rd world country btw) the price of the game with those dlc were quite fair with the premium edition being a lot cheaper than the new F1 game from EA with no DLC, so its hard to tell how things will go, i really want this tdu to be great as a fan of the series but well i wanted the same for Cyberpunk 2077 as well...
Inb4 you're getting more dislikes than likes in this video because people are angry at how right you are about being worried about this coming dumpster fire
@@redhunnid5142 Considering how often the AAA game industry treats player feedback with indifference, we thought messaging them on twitter would be ineffective. That said, considering your success, we will definitely be using this to get info and make suggestions. Thank you for letting us know!
It would be pretty badass if they added an aspect of what Hong Kong was going through like protests in the streets and your ability to change the government but it would also be extremely controversial.
It would be interesting for sure, but considering that even Activision continues to stubbornly claim that their international armed conflict simulator Call of Duty is #NotPolitical , it’s hard to believe that an open world racing game will take a stance on the matter. Besides, considering the industry’s fear of alienating a certain East Asian audience (case and point, Blizzard’s “tough hearthstone e-sports moment), if the game takes any stance at all, they’d probably just side with China 🤷♂️
That would be the opposite of badass. In today's world, where literally everything is politicized, I just want to be able to enjoy a racing game without the political bullshit of real-life interfering with that.
@@Bastiolo48 That's an understandable desire, though the fact that the game is set in Hong Kong and focusing really hard on the "being rich" part of being "being a rich car enthusiast" themes of the series during the biggest period of economic inequality in modern history makes it really difficult for Solar Crown to avoid being political (whether or not they intend to insert politics into the game).
The real thing I’m worried about is that I won’t be allowed to play it because of the pegi 18 rating. I do live in the US, and I think that gambling is stricter in Europe than here, so it could be rated t. But tdu2 was pegi 12 and it had gambling. I think it’s probably the night clubs and stuff that would probably be in there. So hopefully the rating will be lower when it launches, or it’ll be easy to avoid the nightclubs
That’s a valid concern; one of the great things about racing games is that, unlike most other popular genres like rpgs and first person shooters, it’s a genre that can be enjoyed by people of all ages, and TDU doing away with that will both limit the available market and limit the number of people who enjoy the game. Maybe it will change before the game is released (we still haven’t even seen any actual gameplay, after all)
As soon as I heard the new TDU name is called “Solar Crown” Developed by KT Racing and published by Nacon and not it’s not called TDU 3 developed by Eden Games and published by Atari I started to have a panic attack and expectations went down a bit,Hopefully I can be proven wrong and the game and game developers deliver for the new TDU game.
It is a bit discouraging to hear that Eden is uninvolved with the game, but as doom-n-gloom as we are about the game, even we have to say that KT is very capable of making a good racing game (albeit not open world racing games), so we aren't too worried on the moment-to-moment gameplay front. There are many reasons to be concerned for the new TDU, but the fact that KT racing is taking the helm isn't really one of them (at least in terms of the driving physics)
Yup, I disagree a lot with this. KT now have been progressed/experienced to make games even now for PS5/XSX and Switch or high end PCs. Hong Kong may sound impossible but knowing the next-gen platform's capabilities enough and modern satellite imagery/city research to learn years before, I can see how it works being part of nowadays modern next-gen game. Also wrong, game has been developed years before first teaser ever came out (2016), trusted heavily by Nacon with 10 million euros/dollars whilst being an AA publisher (not AAA smh) and wrong again while GTA Online's microtransactions is just shark cards, TDU2 casino/GTAO's casino update/hotel doesn't, they are just in game currency that can be transfared as chips, that's all. GTAO got blocked by China and some other Asian/European countries on this because those countries just want to be self-aware, not because of so-called unheard in game real money so yeah TDUSC will have casinos with no microtransactions in mind whatsover plus it has been requested a lot by real TDU fans including myself for its rich lifestyle theme & a challenging/riskier alternative to grind money. Anyways dude, I do appreciate your time on the editing and honest thoughts about it but yeah I'd say do research much better next time and believe me, Nacon/KT is really passionate about this. So feel free to disagree with me but would like to hear you rethink about this. Anyways, good day to you sir. □|;)
Well, at least that was slightly more respectful than the Mio Honda video. We do want to mention that our worries with the map aren’t regarding its construction but it’s ability to run well while looking good across multiple consoles and console generations (minimal texture and object pop-in, stable framerate, etc). There have been varying and wildly different reports on the game’s total development time, which we plan on addressing in a future video. We never said that Nacon was a AAA publisher, and we never said that TDU2 used microtransactions. The casino in GTA relies upon the player spending credits, and those credits can be bought with real money in the shark card microtransactions, so yes, though obfuscated by non-fungible ingame currency, players can and do spend real money playing the casino.
@@dankswank9088 Thanks for replying but in case of GTA not really tho. ruclips.net/video/yUXdtPrNW40/видео.html GTA's casino just reflects the real casini for the sake of immersion/the effect of Rockstar taking notes or care/paying to detail (Like trashes in hudson river on GTAIV or the current update cocaine joke cutscene about how undercover cops were not allowed to take part of using drugs whilst being endangered of getting blown in the criminal network). Anyway, Shark Cards are just a very optional microtransactions for lazy scrubs, the very-very rich people who just bamgin' (KSI term for buying stuff without seeing how much it costs because too rich) their way in-game without a doubt, or some (famous) RUclipsrs like Lazerbeam, making it a content in order to own their dream cars, properties, pricy clothes very early in game. Yeah sure the full game is 50$ yet people still feel the urged to buy those shark cards when they could have just try to enjoy the game a bit longer, get used to the grindy rags to riches progression and just search for money guides on RUclips (ie. The Professional, TGG, Tylarious, or Pyrrealm). I'd say it's their money and if they don't even regret buying SCs, then so be it. On the positive note, it can be the reason why their live updates is getting better and better compare to other games and could be a really good time killer while waiting for maybe awaited GTAVI on 2024 with a quite much higher budget from these sales. Anyway as a grinder, I'm also against microtransactions in games but the less painful or eye-shoving theh can be to players, the better it is and I can appreciate this pretty enough.
@@drifterkidz1714 “the microtransactions are just there for immersion” is probably the most grotesque justification for ingame monetization since EA said “we don’t sell loot boxes; they’re surprise mechanics”.
This will be a laugh stock to FH5 if it end up like Cyberpunk. I wish they wont because Im really in need of new promising games next year to keep my sanity that I still play new games every year...
And because TDU Solar Crown benefitted a lot from a huge amount of factors, whether it would be the severe lack of good arcade racers features real-life cars that's isn't Forza Horizon, EA's attempt to colonialize the racing game genre, and the Asian setting, I just can't help but shrugging myself that quite a few of people propped up TDUSC as the "messiah of open world racing game" after many years of NFS sucking
The game will probably be good, but I doubt the graphics will, it’s coming to Nintendo switch at launch after all. Also solar crown is only Hong Kong island.
I mean they will probably release it later for switch like they done with doom because there is no way they will make everyone suffer with poor graphics just for Nintendo to run the game well
Do you know, all gameplays the same problem unsolved. Ramming opponents car!! Maybe anyone remember to TDU2 pirated software. I t could incredible reise up car speed and make it so strong that was impossible rammed . It seemed stuck on asphalt!! Why FH4 and the other never apply this one software?
Microtransactions and loot boxes are so psychologically akin to real-world gambling that governments around the world are trying to classify them as gambling. Leaked documents from EA show that they deliberately contrived the online component of FIFA to pressure people into spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on loot boxes. Companies use these gambling mechanics and the digital classism that they create to specifically target children and people with addiction problems in order to make a profit at the expense of their customer's well-being. Horrifying? YES really.
I could care less about the "pay to win" crap. So long as the game lives up to it's past reputation and delivers a solid experience! Just don't shove the in game purchasing down our throats. That would be the fastest way to lose an entire community of TDU fans! _TRUST... "we will retaliate if necessary and smear the heck out of this title"_
This is my game I'm waiting out for, forza horizon has lost its car guy mojo and heading more towards a child like super car "forzanite" style game. Please don't do me dirty test drive.
We also hope Solar Crown maintains a more “adult” sensibility in its presentation, but we hope that this does not mean more expectations placed upon the player like forcing them to put up with excessive monetization or needless online requirements.
@@dankswank9088 100% agree, I don't really ever play online anymore as people just use the fastest or most expensive cars and try race me in my 300hp no upgrades car 😭.
I mean there is CarX Street that we're supposed to release this November, and Night Runners releasing the demo on this December, and NFS 2022 could be it only if EA weren't doing anything stupid and on the side note, before you or radical Underground/MW05 fanatics who we're about to hitlerify Criterion is that they weren't exactly the ones responsible for the fail of the MW12 as evidenced by the earlier build footages of the game
We aren’t sure yet; the Wikipedia page claims the game has a single player mode, but no sources are sited and other racing games with single player modes like The Crew and 2015’s Need for Speed required a constant internet connection, so considering all of that, Solar Crown requiring an internet connection (while not confirmed) is an uncomfortable possibility.
People want uncritical praise of a game tha have never played and still has zero actual footage because they’re blinded by nostalgia for the old games; we’re not shocked about the dislikes tbh
@@dankswank9088 I stick in the racing part of things. I really enjoyed all the these games because their different in everyway. Like every other Game have their ups and downs. Assuming will not make any difference. Reviews are more worth it. I'll wait for you on that one.
Let's hope this doesn't become the Cyberpunk 2077 of racing games
Look on the bright side; the glitches might be funny!
nah FH5 will take that spot before TDU Solar Crown
@@ZoMTDU dude, huge fan. I mean, you were insane in Far Cry 3, like literally!!
same, im cautiously optimistic it has so much potential but until i see some solid gameplay reveals, it's all a bunch of hot air
maybe they release in 2023 they dont even have a gameplay clip
I really hope it doesnt flop, used to play the original TDU when i was smaller loved it so much
Us too, man
Also TDU2. They could have remastered it on PS4
@@hwetl9 Well, maybe, but that assumes that Nacon could get the rights to all the same makes and models in order to make the remaster. While Hot Pursuit got a remaster, that's largely because EA is one of the biggest companies in gaming and has the kind of money that they can comfortably throw at such a project; a smaller publisher like Nacon might not have those kinds of resources. Then again, Nacon was able to secure the rights to some of the biggest automotive names for solar crown, so maybe...
TDU with modern cars remastered would be great
I choose to just keep expectations low for now. There's so many strategies between different dev teams so just because there's no gameplay yet, there are reasons for it. What those are I just refuse to speculate in. I will evaluate proof when I see it.
Thankfully GT7 will be released about the same time and I at least refuse to believe that both will flop. I want both though.
GT7 is looking pretty good not gonna lie
i think hong kong island is perfect the only worry i have is that it might be to small if its truly done 1:1 without any extra parts added
if being small ensures that KT racing actually delivers a quality racing game, we're all for it! While the size of older games was a nice novelty, the fact is that it also demonstrated a major flaw of prioritizing size over everything else; lots of open, empty space with very little to do. Like butter spread over too much bread, the nice elements of the open world are few and far between on an overly large map. A smaller map means more concentrated fun and an easier development. Win-win!
@@dankswank9088 true, but youre still talking about a racing game here and if they were to make it 1:1 you would basically have no straights to drive the cars top speed since hong kong island isnt that big and if you look at a map of it you will basically see the only straight it has is one underground tunnel- other than that i 100% agree with what you just said
@@LS-tk7hp I mean, it worked for Forza Horizon, and Solar Crown's map (assuming it is limited to Hong Kong island) would be larger than the one for Horizon 4, so it's hardly tiny compared to the competition.
@Fabrice level design is of paramount importance for an open world racing game, and having a large map mitigates the ability of a developer to design an engaging map (especially when it’s based on a real-world location). Our original point clearly went over your head; we weren’t saying we needed a pop-up of a new race event every 5 feet to enjoy the open world but that we need engaging roads to drive, and by having such a vast map in the first game, the fun roads were spaced out by empty, boring commutes across the map. If they can somehow manage to get a giant map to be packed with fun roadways in the year and change that they have to develop the game then great, but otherwise, a smaller, more concentrated world would be better.
They can always release a DLC something that would make the map bigger in the future if the game does really well.
I'm not worried about TDUSC.. More for your sanity at this point
Us too lol 😂
I hope the developers are not desperately trying to reach too wide an audience. Many of my favourite game series have unfortunately been watered down too much in recent years to please too many people. I hope they stay true to the game principle and develop it further in a sensible way.
Its OK to point out these thing and not get called a hater. we saw similar practices with CP77, FO76, Anthem and many more big gaming fuckups. Kylotonn so far has stated that Nacon their parent company is telling them to shut it. But everything is still really weird.
It’s depressing how hard it is to find people like you who actually get it. Fanboy culture is a disease.
John, I swear to god, seeing comments like yours truly makes me happy. I hope there are more like you in the future.
@@dankswank9088 feel free to pin the comment if you so wish
@@johnbacon4997 will do!
You sound too professional to only have 600 subscribers! Keep the Solar Crown content up! 🙌
Edit: woah I didn’t even notice the balanced like to dislike ratio until i left a like. After being burned by Cyberpunk 77, I do truly feel like these are all things we genuinely should be worried about in an industry where more and more long-time companies are not learning from the disasters of Fallout 76 or Anthem, especially with the graphics situation.
I know the game is still far from release and absolutely nothing is certain about the outcome of TDUSC therefore we shouldn’t be accusing the game of having bad features based on CGI trailers alone... But everything he said in this video has already happened to other beloved franchises from once praised companies one too many times, even ages before the game launched.
I don’t know if Nacon has favored microtransactions in their products before, but It’s only right that we start “””preaching””” (for lack of better words) these kinds of things to the devs and let them know to take their time to make the game right for the people who are actually looking forward to it.
Only then will the game be successful, and it will gain the traction and profit a company would want… or something like that; i aint no business entrepreneur. If we don’t actively and positively remind the devs to stay in their lane no pun intended, then we’ll end up with another PROJECT CARS 3.
I’m not a hater or a fanboy, I’m just a man who likes the thrill of arcade racers, and There is no saying that KT Racing won’t fall into greed and dirty profit desperation like many other beloved game publishers have. So i think this video is onto something. (I disagree with the 1st point tho; I remember Overwatch also liked showing off their Short Film talents to attract attention while the game was still cooking.)
#KeepExpectationsLow #WaitForReviews (from actual racing fans, Not IGN)
Thank you for your support, my man! We're gonna focus on Forza Horizon 5 for a little bit, but we'll be back on Solar Crown as soon as more info comes out!
>(from actual racing fans, Not IGN)
and lest we not forget about big-time YT influencers like YongYea too, they're literally just as corrupt as IGN after the whole Cyberscam debacle
Surprising to see so many dislikes, you brought up many excellent points. I do sincerely hope that they don't overemphasize the "lifestyle" portion of the game, the sprinkled on elements of clothing, appearance and houses are meant to augment the experience; you rightly note that TDU 2 went too far with it. On the flipside, the rush to release the game MIGHT actually mean they will directly port the WRC 9 driving physics over to TDUSC without spending too much time ruining it with arcady physics (we can only wish).
I mean, that’s certainly one potential upside, though we wonder what other parts of the mage might be compromised as a result of that rush (not to mention excessive crunch put on the developers)
This guy gets it. The people getting hyped don't. Please don't get over hyped for this game. You WILL be disappointed. Kt racing has made racing games before, I get that. But open work racers are a completely different story. Y'all are looking at the tdu franchise with rose tinted glasses, its not gonna be as good as what you expect. Then you got dumb RUclipsrs out there hyping everyone up throwing around maps like Tenerife, and when the developers reveal something much smaller, they get underwhelmed. Who's fault is that?
You have to understand that seasoned developers like EA and Playground games even after years of making open world racers, still struggle to out out competent games out there. What makes people think that the first open world racing game made by a developer is going to be like the second coming of Jesus?
I want this game to be good. But so far, all we got is 3 CGI trailers, hyping everybody up and nothing as much as a screenshot of the actual game. We've been at this place with so many games before yet y'all never learn!
Don't worry about the dislike man, they're just overhyped at this point. We have every right to worry. Revealing the release date before we have even gotten a smidge of gameplay. While they're perfectly content with showing us gameplay of all their other games.
Don't get me wrong. I want to be proven wrong. I want this comment to age like milk. But the daunting task of making an open world racer on a 1:1 scale map, licensing super cars, making these cars fun and distinct to drive making an mmo, maintaining severs, and making the game fun, I almost definitely too much for a studio who has had no prior experience in making racing games. and need I tell u that WRC is their only successful franchise. Their other game VRally4 was not as well received.
So calm yourselves down and brace for impact.
Thank you for getting it, man. So many people think we want the game to suck for some reason or think we’re trying to drag it down and they don’t get that it is healthy and crucial for the game industry for all of us to be critical of the things we love in order to push publishers and developers to be better. And you are dead-on; so many people simply refuse to learn from the past, and in doing so, doom all of us to repeat it!
"Then you got dumb RUclipsrs out there hyping everyone up throwing around maps like Tenerife"
damn bro, I mean the guess wasn't dumb, it was pretty damn educated but anyway, but to each their own! Not that HKI is a bad island choice regardless especially since we might go beyond HKI anyways. Always easy to chat shit I guess tho ;)
Also, "You WILL be disappointed" is a bit of a dumb statement, people can still be hyped, but be reasonable about it, there's nothing wrong with hype. And same way how people assume the games going to be good, you can't assume it'll be a dissapointment. Neither side of the spectrum can talk. People that bash people for being hyped are low lifers, no other way to say it. Frankly I don't have the time to type out an essay combating every silly point you made here but for people like you, I hope KT smash it. Tired of all the complainers
@@TheAlexVII I mean, we aren’t against that kind of speculation (though we do resent how a lot of people like AR12 and others create deliberately misleading titles meant to insinuate that a bunch of new details about the game have been “revealed”) I don’t even think that the original commenter is against speculation so much as the disproportionate weight put on speculation and the uncritical fanboy culture surrounding games these days in which mild criticism is seen by the fans (who haven’t even played the game yet) as heresy.
@@dankswank9088 Except I never have done that? So you bringing up this AR12 example is pointless. As I said, Tenerife was a LOGICAL guess, I never once said confirmed, ever. There's nothing wrong speculaitng and guessing an island, there's also nothign wrong about being hyped for a game. People who say otherwise are just at low-lifers. Why drag your hatful opinion on to others who don't feel the same way? Peopel can be critical, but saying things like this dev hasn't done x so they won't be good at doing x is stupid. Anyway, this convo is pointless loool, especially since YOU made two videos about why you're worried about TDU SC lmao
@@TheAlexVII imagine criticizing someone else’s decisions while going on an unhinged tirade calling them low-lives. Why is the fan base so toxic? Why is mild criticism all it takes for people to fly off the handle and make an anime opening-based roast to try to shame people into submission? Seriously, why?
Why are people so triggered by this video. I get it... We've been waiting for over a decade for a new tdu and we're finally getting one. But remember. Tdu2 was a disaster when it first launched. And the Test Drive series as a whole doesn't have the greatest track record for quality games. This goes all the way back to Test Drive 4. Be cautiously optimistic. Not hyped... That's the point these videos are trying to make.
Thank you for getting it. So many people have such a cultish attitude about the franchise that they see anything said about the game that isn’t blind hype as an attack! We even saw a guy make a “response video” that condescendingly talked down to us and said we were objectively wrong about our subjective opinions! People are crazy sometimes...
@@dankswank9088 Well as a true and realistic Test Drive fan since Test Drive 5, I have to say thanks for speaking up about these concerns. They needed to be addressed.
@@krocialblack We're glad to hear that you and other rational people appreciate it! LET'S KEEP THE PRESSURE ON NACON!
I mean I honestly cannot believe that people still had faith left in game companies after the cyberpunk's failure
and it certainly not really helping that TDUSC benefitted a lot from the severe lack of (good) racing games on this generation esp. on PS4 that led this game had been propped up as the 2nd coming of christ of racing games lately
Eden Games only had limited experience with racing games, with zero experience of open world racing. It could have bugs if they are trying to set new standards as with TDU2 which was way ahead of its time and in some respects suffered because of that.
A few people have mentioned that. We agree that this is a good reason to be hopeful, but it's also important to know that the first TDU is an exception to the rule, and more often than not, studios struggle creating something that isn't in their wheelhouse (for examples, look at the laundry list of developers EA murdered because they were forced to make something in a genre for which they had no prior experience making games). Considering that even seasoned developers often flop when making games in genres that are their bread and butter, we remain nervous for the game's future.
@@dankswank9088 I completely understand your viewpoint and agree with certain aspects of your concerns.
The vehicle physics declined from TDU1 to TDU2, thats why im worried for TDU3 - to become an arcade game pretty much
@@sasazapadnik9335KT Racing have good experience with driving physics. There's plenty to yet be revealed.
@@SyeJenPlus4 I hope you end up being correct. This game will easily be ruined with Forza-esque physics.
Nacon is listening to their fans compared to these other companies. Just because they don't show any gameplay doesn't mean it is automatically bad.
Nacon is the creators of WRC 9, a game that has some great physics. They are not aiming to replace Forza and Grand Turismo. Their goal is to create a new game to add to the racing game genre. In this game, they are planning to add features such as housing, gambling, and a more realistic world. The problem back when the first 2 games were released was their marketing strategy. The game didn't really get a lot of attention, but if you look at the rating of the games they score pretty high.
Edit: I don't think there's anything to worry about. Unless what you are expecting is a game that will outclass Forza and Turismo in graphics, physics, and sound because that was never their intentions.
While it is certainly encouraging to know that Nacon has set up a suggestion box of sorts through discord, this would not be the first time a publisher has disingenuously said that they were "listening to the fans". Not showing gameplay does not necessarily mean that the game is bad, but it does not bode well. To clarify, Nacon is publishing the game and not making it (that's KT racing), but developer KT has great experience.
just because they "listening to fans" like he said doesn't meant we had to putting them up on the pedestal, Bethesda, Blizzard, and everyone's favorite CD Projekt Red we're used to be the chosen ones until F76, Warcraft Reforged, and that certain futuristic "the next generation of open world adventure" came along and everyone had turned against these companies for betraying their trust
I feel like most of these are 100% speculation and not really based on anything but worse case scenarios that could apply to literally any game. The only solid point here is how we haven’t seen actually gameplay. And I use the term “solid” pretty liberally as the game is over a FULL YEAR away from release.
Literally anything any youtuber says about this game right now is speculation because that's all we can do. All of these are valid concerns substantiated by the history of the game industry as a whole. Pre-rendered trailers are often used to hide a bad game. Open world games do have unique challenges that are difficult for inexperienced developers to surmount. A year of time is an incredibly tight deadline for an inexperienced developer to make an open world game meant to compete against Forza Horizon and The Crew. A game focusing on wealth and cosmetic features is a prime candidate for microtransactions and post-launch monetization. "Worst case scenarios could apply to literally any game"
@@dankswank9088 My point isn’t that these concerns aren’t valid, it’s that these concerns are valid for almost any game if you make the video early enough. You did an excellent job producing this video, but it just feels like there’s nothing behind these concerns other than “hey, here’s a lot of stuff that can go wrong with a game, nearly any game, but this one is hyped and it’s too early to tell, so this one.”
I just beg the test drive team to realise that we want the motorist style back that the first TDU had
Motorist style?
@@dankswank9088 Probably the physics of Hardcore in TDU1. Such a dream to drive compared to the mess that was TDU2
@@ZoMTDU agreed, though we’d prefer if the handling model from TDU1 got refined and updated to modern gameplay standards. The first game is still fun, but the handling is a bit rough by modern standards
@@dankswank9088 he probably meant bikes
You made some very fair points. I really hope this game doesn't disappoint, I have high hopes for it. I thoroughly enjoyed playing through the first TDU, acquiring new cars and luxurious houses, and just driving around and exploring. I didn't play much of TDU2, the physics were kinda weird and I didn't really enjoy driving in that game. But I really hope this game captures the essence of the first TDU.
Same here. The first Test Drive Unlimited was the entire reason I got an Xbox 360, and the potential for this game to recapture the immersive automotive fantasy that defined that game is exciting... we just know all-to-well how often the videogame industry destroys the dreams of its customers.
Nobody should care about the game having AAA visuals, The physics model is far more important.
Gameplay precedes graphics for sure, but it would also be a shame if the demands of the open world and cross-gen release meant that Solar Crown has PS2 visuals...
The fact that it’s getting released on switch is a really bad sign
It doesn’t exactly bode well, but then again, DOOM Eternal was released on the switch so maybe everything will work out fine 🤞😬
Remember the trailor for The Crew 2 vs the actual game? Yeah it's going to be like that but Hong Kong.
It certainly seems like it lol
Second, it's a true open world automotive oriented game with real location on 1:1 scale, which distinguishes this game from rest of the racing games..
Also you have not seen any second of footage from the gameplay so chill out & wait...
"Chill out and wait" is how every big disappointing game was allowed to manifest in the last generation; waiting is how Anthem, cyberpunk, fallout 76, the order 1886, assassins creed unity, Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2, and so many others released with massive issues. Like a cavity in a tooth, issues with a videogame need to be addressed BEFORE they manifest in reality (prevention is the best treatment) to ensure that they don't become issues when the game is in our hands. "Chill out and wait" is how we get always online, glitchy, hyper-monetized, and broken games.
@@dankswank9088 There's ultimately absolutely NOTHING we can do as an audience except sit here and wait, and just... don't preorder. As to the publisher and dev? Well by all reason they already know what kind of game we expect and what would leave us satisfied, or should know, we aren't difficult to find and ask, and all the discussion is out there. If they don't, then they won't listen either! I mean you do bring up valid concerns, but you just can't prevent bad and underdeveloped games from happening, all you can do ultimately is not encourage this practice.
What i personally expect? Given it targets the Switch, a last-gen-ish low-budget-ish game, which is more similar to TDU2 in production value than to Forza Horizon 3/4, and likely below The Crew 2. TDU has shown that it's not that impossible to represent a dense urban environment in a very simplified form on a limited budget; Buildings can be barely more detailed than boxes, most streets will be hinted at but completely blocked off, it'll still be 1:1 geographically, and it can be perfectly fine like that. It doesn't matter much how tall a box is regarding its cost, a box is a box. It's certainly not a game with insane ambitions of CP2077 or AC U, nor a game built on known broken and shaky foundation unlike F76. I think this is just about the best case, obviously things can go wrong in a number of ways. I do think the CG trailers overhype the target they're aiming for by a LOT, but i also feel they're getting their money's worth for these, as they'll probably be in the game's attract mode or intro to set the mood, and they don't have to be an accurate representation of the game for that, pure hype in cutscenes is perfectly fine.
No matter how you try to convince yourself... The map is too small. Forza Horizon is relevant because they provide DLC and huge support after launch. I doubt this gets any of that sort. It's an open world racing game. It is meant to be filled with races. You don't need to fill every nook and cranny when big map in it self is something that brings content to a game like this. You can't have enough variety in small map. This just feels like a cash grab with old IP name tagged onto it. I was hoping for this to be a remaster with Ibiza, Oahu and additional island.
While we can agree that this does feel like a cash-grab on the part of Nacon, we still don't know if the map will be limited to Hong Kong island or if it will extend to parts of the mainland. It may not be as small as we think, but even if it is still smaller than prior TDU games, given the density of driving terrain on the island, it's hard for us to feel like the game won't benefit from a more concentrated open world.
I’m still concerned
SAAAME lol!
I love test drive, but man….I’m expecting failure
Same here; there’s just too much going against the game at the moment and without a delay of the release date we just can’t see this coming together by launch day
@@dankswank9088 also in my opinion they just don’t have the development experience to pull off such a massive project. I think this is going to make Cyberpunk look like an actually polished game.
@@southernoklahomamopars6726 dang that would be impressive 😂
@@dankswank9088 *starts game, immediately crashes* well….f**k
@@southernoklahomamopars6726 dang you must think it’ll be Fallout 76 levels of bad lol
This are all valid point, but at the end of the day do not matter because we have waited for this games for years. Besides who has played TDU doesn’t expect a triple A game like FH series.
I don't think it'll be the whole of Hong Kong. They said Hong Kong Island. That's the size of Forza Horizon 4.
True, though that is still a lot of ground to cover for a developer that hasn’t really made a proper open world game before.
@@dankswank9088 hmm, then again, eden had no experience prior to tdu1 and before that like kt, they were a French racing studio that specialized in rally games, unlike kt however (which has around 4-5 years of development time for tdusc according to nacon themselves,) eden was under the scum of what was known as 2000s to early 2010s Atari. And they succeeded. It's being developed by many of the same people that worked on the first two tdu games like Alain jairnou. I wouldn't get too hung up about it because the discord has already requested them to not have stuff like lootboxes a full year ago, and the community manager confirmed dealerships.
@@raykreiger4123 we’ve heard varying reports on the total development for the game, but regardless, that’s a fair point regarding Eden games, so we may be pleasantly surprised by Solar Crown’s depiction of Hong Kong. That said, while it’s good that people have been railing against loot boxes from early on, it wouldn’t be the first time a publisher pushed their developer to go against the wishes of the customers or break the promises they made to limit monetization. Fingers crossed they follow through with fan requests 🤞
@@dankswank9088 while many people compare it to cb2077, I tend to compare it with ace combat 7, a game that managed to live up to it's promises under modern day bandai namco, which should've been impossible. My stance on it is, it will likely be a good game, the dealerships and physics should add plenty of flavor to it. whether or not it can revolutionize the industry like tdu1 did however is yet to be seen, but I prefer having slight optimism thanks to ac7 then negativity from cyberpunk. Being cautious is still important though.
@@raykreiger4123 you have good reason to be optimistic; we suppose our concern is largely out of the fact we care so much about this game (the first TDU was the reason I got an xbox 360 and started playing videogames in the first place) and know how the AAA industry these days so happily puts squeezing every conceivable penny out of their audience over all other considerations.
The setting confuses me, is it just Hong kong island?? The map shown in the trailer has main bridges to mainland hong Kong dotted out (suggesting its not drivable).. However the trailer also shows an absolutely massive container port.. Which is NOT anywhere on hong Kong Island, not that I can find anyway. I'm just confus
The lack of clarification and pre-rendered nature of the trailer makes it difficult to know - Nacon has claimed that KT Racing recreated Hong Kong Island at a 1-to-1 scale for use in Solar Crown's open world, but they did not confirm or deny whether or not Hong Kong Island would be the only drivable area in the open world. Assuming that KT racing follows in the footsteps of the earlier games, we would guess that the island represents a center point for the world and the various bridges would connect to other parts of the map, but we cannot know until gameplay is actually revealed.
@@dankswank9088 you can also see a silhouette of a pedestrian when the huracan is racing the i8 after they turn a corner, suggesting of pedestrians, but again this is a render trailer, so digital artists can put anything in to bling it up. In game screen shots or gameplay would really set us at ease right about now
Exactly! NEVER trust pre-rendered footage; ALWAYS wait for actual gameplay!
between the always online point in the last video and the lootbox point made it this video, its becoming painfully easy to believe that this will be the racing equivalent of anthem or destiny; this disposable, super-monetized live service that lives only to nickle and dime kids while dragging the series name through the dirt ... how depressing
Again, we really hope we're wrong about this game and the direction it seems to be taking; there's still a lot of ambiguity regarding the game's structure and modes, so hopefully this is just the result of our conditioning by the AAA industry and not reflective of KT and Nacon's vision. That said, it cant hurt to let them know that we don't want this kind of stuff in the game!
another point to remember is all WRC games by KT have performance issues.
Лучше пускай опаздают с релизом ну сделают все так как надо, и для души что бы все получали удовольствие от моря красивых машин роскошных домов, безграничной езды по острову с различными парковками, парками, озерами или даже морями и красивыми местами в целом , и можно ещё добавить много элементов в плане настройки авто, персонажа, и конечно же режимов и событий
Совершенно верно - чем больше у них будет времени, чтобы сделать игру с отложенным выпуском, тем лучше (Извините, если это звучит странно, я использую Google Transalte)
@@dankswank9088 все хорошо я тебя правильно понял
BTW Marx was himself a rich brat. He didn't invent idea of equality, stop giving him all the credit.
sept 2022 wtf man how many years these guys need.. i love TDU and TDU2 but man ..
More than they have been given, probably (remember that the game only started development at the beginning of 2020)
When is it supposed to be coming out
September 22, 2022 is the release date at present, though we hope the game gets delayed so KT racing can overcome any of the many issues that can occur while making a game over such a tight deadline.
you forgot another point, how long they will keep supporting the game, considering they gave very little post content to all their previous racing game, V-Rally 4 had 4 or 5 dlc cars and that was it, theyr TT bike game had the same deal and they just abandoned it and released a second game, WRC is a sport game so i'll give it a break, but the new RIMS Bike game has already a lot of dlc at launch and lacks content, all though at least where i live (which is 3rd world country btw) the price of the game with those dlc were quite fair with the premium edition being a lot cheaper than the new F1 game from EA with no DLC, so its hard to tell how things will go, i really want this tdu to be great as a fan of the series but well i wanted the same for Cyberpunk 2077 as well...
Inb4 you're getting more dislikes than likes in this video because people are angry at how right you are about being worried about this coming dumpster fire
Too late looool
Y’all know you can talk to the developers right 😂😂
By talking, do you mean dropping a message into their suggestion box?
@@redhunnid5142 Considering how often the AAA game industry treats player feedback with indifference, we thought messaging them on twitter would be ineffective. That said, considering your success, we will definitely be using this to get info and make suggestions. Thank you for letting us know!
It would be pretty badass if they added an aspect of what Hong Kong was going through like protests in the streets and your ability to change the government but it would also be extremely controversial.
It would be interesting for sure, but considering that even Activision continues to stubbornly claim that their international armed conflict simulator Call of Duty is #NotPolitical , it’s hard to believe that an open world racing game will take a stance on the matter. Besides, considering the industry’s fear of alienating a certain East Asian audience (case and point, Blizzard’s “tough hearthstone e-sports moment), if the game takes any stance at all, they’d probably just side with China 🤷♂️
Pretty sure this would cause a diplomatic crisis, bruh. Not worth stirring up the hornet's nest that is the CPP.
That would be the opposite of badass. In today's world, where literally everything is politicized, I just want to be able to enjoy a racing game without the political bullshit of real-life interfering with that.
@@Bastiolo48 That's an understandable desire, though the fact that the game is set in Hong Kong and focusing really hard on the "being rich" part of being "being a rich car enthusiast" themes of the series during the biggest period of economic inequality in modern history makes it really difficult for Solar Crown to avoid being political (whether or not they intend to insert politics into the game).
@@Bastiolo48 let's face it, racing games we're the very last place I wanna see any kind of forced "politics" to interfere with my gameplay
It's same look at the TT games, TT2 is somewhat open world already
The real thing I’m worried about is that I won’t be allowed to play it because of the pegi 18 rating. I do live in the US, and I think that gambling is stricter in Europe than here, so it could be rated t. But tdu2 was pegi 12 and it had gambling. I think it’s probably the night clubs and stuff that would probably be in there. So hopefully the rating will be lower when it launches, or it’ll be easy to avoid the nightclubs
That’s a valid concern; one of the great things about racing games is that, unlike most other popular genres like rpgs and first person shooters, it’s a genre that can be enjoyed by people of all ages, and TDU doing away with that will both limit the available market and limit the number of people who enjoy the game. Maybe it will change before the game is released (we still haven’t even seen any actual gameplay, after all)
every game at this point has some form of gambling/lootboxes so idk
@@ZoMTDU it’s not the gambling that I’m worried about. It’s the potential of 18+ things in nightclubs
@@ZoMTDU unfortunately very true
@@saltybread7500 hopefully they dont the full Cyberpunk route
As soon as I heard the new TDU name is called “Solar Crown” Developed by KT Racing and published by Nacon and not it’s not called TDU 3 developed by Eden Games and published by Atari I started to have a panic attack and expectations went down a bit,Hopefully I can be proven wrong and the game and game developers deliver for the new TDU game.
It is a bit discouraging to hear that Eden is uninvolved with the game, but as doom-n-gloom as we are about the game, even we have to say that KT is very capable of making a good racing game (albeit not open world racing games), so we aren't too worried on the moment-to-moment gameplay front. There are many reasons to be concerned for the new TDU, but the fact that KT racing is taking the helm isn't really one of them (at least in terms of the driving physics)
We are worried😂
Hopefully we'll see some gameplay soon; getting a release date for a game we haven't even seen yet is worrying...
Yup, I disagree a lot with this. KT now have been progressed/experienced to make games even now for PS5/XSX and Switch or high end PCs. Hong Kong may sound impossible but knowing the next-gen platform's capabilities enough and modern satellite imagery/city research to learn years before, I can see how it works being part of nowadays modern next-gen game.
Also wrong, game has been developed years before first teaser ever came out (2016), trusted heavily by Nacon with 10 million euros/dollars whilst being an AA publisher (not AAA smh) and wrong again while GTA Online's microtransactions is just shark cards, TDU2 casino/GTAO's casino update/hotel doesn't, they are just in game currency that can be transfared as chips, that's all. GTAO got blocked by China and some other Asian/European countries on this because those countries just want to be self-aware, not because of so-called unheard in game real money so yeah TDUSC will have casinos with no microtransactions in mind whatsover plus it has been requested a lot by real TDU fans including myself for its rich lifestyle theme & a challenging/riskier alternative to grind money.
Anyways dude, I do appreciate your time on the editing and honest thoughts about it but yeah I'd say do research much better next time and believe me, Nacon/KT is really passionate about this. So feel free to disagree with me but would like to hear you rethink about this. Anyways, good day to you sir. □|;)
Well, at least that was slightly more respectful than the Mio Honda video. We do want to mention that our worries with the map aren’t regarding its construction but it’s ability to run well while looking good across multiple consoles and console generations (minimal texture and object pop-in, stable framerate, etc). There have been varying and wildly different reports on the game’s total development time, which we plan on addressing in a future video. We never said that Nacon was a AAA publisher, and we never said that TDU2 used microtransactions. The casino in GTA relies upon the player spending credits, and those credits can be bought with real money in the shark card microtransactions, so yes, though obfuscated by non-fungible ingame currency, players can and do spend real money playing the casino.
@@dankswank9088 Thanks for replying but in case of GTA not really tho. ruclips.net/video/yUXdtPrNW40/видео.html
GTA's casino just reflects the real casini for the sake of immersion/the effect of Rockstar taking notes or care/paying to detail (Like trashes in hudson river on GTAIV or the current update cocaine joke cutscene about how undercover cops were not allowed to take part of using drugs whilst being endangered of getting blown in the criminal network).
Anyway, Shark Cards are just a very optional microtransactions for lazy scrubs, the very-very rich people who just bamgin' (KSI term for buying stuff without seeing how much it costs because too rich) their way in-game without a doubt, or some (famous) RUclipsrs like Lazerbeam, making it a content in order to own their dream cars, properties, pricy clothes very early in game. Yeah sure the full game is 50$ yet people still feel the urged to buy those shark cards when they could have just try to enjoy the game a bit longer, get used to the grindy rags to riches progression and just search for money guides on RUclips (ie. The Professional, TGG, Tylarious, or Pyrrealm). I'd say it's their money and if they don't even regret buying SCs, then so be it. On the positive note, it can be the reason why their live updates is getting better and better compare to other games and could be a really good time killer while waiting for maybe awaited GTAVI on 2024 with a quite much higher budget from these sales.
Anyway as a grinder, I'm also against microtransactions in games but the less painful or eye-shoving theh can be to players, the better it is and I can appreciate this pretty enough.
@@drifterkidz1714 “the microtransactions are just there for immersion” is probably the most grotesque justification for ingame monetization since EA said “we don’t sell loot boxes; they’re surprise mechanics”.
This will be a laugh stock to FH5 if it end up like Cyberpunk. I wish they wont because Im really in need of new promising games next year to keep my sanity that I still play new games every year...
And because TDU Solar Crown benefitted a lot from a huge amount of factors, whether it would be the severe lack of good arcade racers features real-life cars that's isn't Forza Horizon, EA's attempt to colonialize the racing game genre, and the Asian setting, I just can't help but shrugging myself that quite a few of people propped up TDUSC as the "messiah of open world racing game" after many years of NFS sucking
Its a glimmer of hope for a lot of people, and as we've seen, hope can drive men insane...
ubisoft's open world racer works just fine and it's bigger than any forza game so.........
BIG =/= good
Also, Ubisoft protected abusers and sexual predators working at their company for years, so...
The game will probably be good, but I doubt the graphics will, it’s coming to Nintendo switch at launch after all. Also solar crown is only Hong Kong island.
I mean they will probably release it later for switch like they done with doom because there is no way they will make everyone suffer with poor graphics just for Nintendo to run the game well
Do you know, all gameplays the same problem unsolved. Ramming opponents car!!
Maybe anyone remember to TDU2 pirated software. I t could incredible reise up car speed and make it so strong that was impossible rammed . It seemed stuck on asphalt!!
Why FH4 and the other never apply this one software?
Hong Kong Island but full Hong Kong lol
Hey there mate, nice video !!! Do you have any Discord ?
Not yet, but we might set one up at some point depending on the demand. Thank you for the support!
@@dankswank9088 Please set up a discord so I can talk to the guy narrating this video. I hope he calls me "Kitten". I def will call him ZADDY!
@@fatgamergirlpee 😶
Horrifying? Really? Turn the servers back on for part 2 so I can spend more money and get the zr1
Microtransactions and loot boxes are so psychologically akin to real-world gambling that governments around the world are trying to classify them as gambling. Leaked documents from EA show that they deliberately contrived the online component of FIFA to pressure people into spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on loot boxes. Companies use these gambling mechanics and the digital classism that they create to specifically target children and people with addiction problems in order to make a profit at the expense of their customer's well-being. Horrifying? YES really.
I could care less about the "pay to win" crap. So long as the game lives up to it's past reputation and delivers a solid experience! Just don't shove the in game purchasing down our throats. That would be the fastest way to lose an entire community of TDU fans!
_TRUST... "we will retaliate if necessary and smear the heck out of this title"_
This is my game I'm waiting out for, forza horizon has lost its car guy mojo and heading more towards a child like super car "forzanite" style game.
Please don't do me dirty test drive.
We also hope Solar Crown maintains a more “adult” sensibility in its presentation, but we hope that this does not mean more expectations placed upon the player like forcing them to put up with excessive monetization or needless online requirements.
@@dankswank9088 100% agree, I don't really ever play online anymore as people just use the fastest or most expensive cars and try race me in my 300hp no upgrades car 😭.
I mean there is CarX Street that we're supposed to release this November, and Night Runners releasing the demo on this December, and NFS 2022 could be it only if EA weren't doing anything stupid
and on the side note, before you or radical Underground/MW05 fanatics who we're about to hitlerify Criterion is that they weren't exactly the ones responsible for the fail of the MW12 as evidenced by the earlier build footages of the game
Wait is it online only
We aren’t sure yet; the Wikipedia page claims the game has a single player mode, but no sources are sited and other racing games with single player modes like The Crew and 2015’s Need for Speed required a constant internet connection, so considering all of that, Solar Crown requiring an internet connection (while not confirmed) is an uncomfortable possibility.
@@dankswank9088 thanks
I hope will have offline mode like tdu2
@@tommytsang3067 IT BETTER!!!
Hey this video has more dislikes
People want uncritical praise of a game tha have never played and still has zero actual footage because they’re blinded by nostalgia for the old games; we’re not shocked about the dislikes tbh
@@dankswank9088 I’m not shocked anymore
First of all it's not a triple A game
first of all, we never said it was
Your just scared you will be addictive to it.
Considering that gambling mechanics like microtransactions and loot boxes are deliberately designed to be addicting, that’s a valid fear to have.
@@dankswank9088 I stick in the racing part of things. I really enjoyed all the these games because their different in everyway. Like every other Game have their ups and downs. Assuming will not make any difference. Reviews are more worth it. I'll wait for you on that one.