Just to clarify - Please DO NOT harass L3ONJHK. He made a mistake and thus should be given room to improve. Dank Swank is very much against the idea of an "echo chamber". Everyone's opinions are valid and we're sure that this new knowledge will help him rectify his mistakes.
Childish is some rando on the internet talking down to us like a misbehaving child for daring to provide valid criticism of a game he hasn’t even seen yet.
@@dankswank9088 Agreed with that but reacting back like a child does that make you any better that is all I saying. Like the video was great just didn't think the comment was need
This game will suck . This Dev are goofs 🤪 Even the last game 13 years ago was broken af And they said bikes would come later They added years later and charged for em . They SUCK you'll see
Excluding anything said in the video… I’m in disbelief that you have 500 subs! A great channel, with well thought arguments and opinions, members with a large vocabulary, and good entertainment I’m sure many can get behind
We are honored, both that you think so highly of our work and to have you as a subscriber. Not to toot our own horn, but you aren't the first person to be shocked by our low subscriber count. We thank you for helping us mitigate that low count and welcome you to the classiest cavern on the worldwide web!
THANK YOU for addressing all of his nonsense WAY better than I could have ever hoped. Glad to be able to have your back as some slight voice of reason.. sad that his video sapped me of the brainpower to be as articulate as you. Amazing work and I hope more people see it.
Truth be told, we think you did a pretty fantastic job calling him out yourself! I mean, if he felt threatened enough by your comments to delete them, you must have done something right!
Exactly: every fandom, wether it be videogames or books or movies, has toxic fanbases whose toxicity can infect other aspects of media and daily life. It’s part of the reason we made this video; to call out toxic behavior and encouraged an active push back against it to mitigate its effects on this game and the culture as a whole.
whatever you do, just don't buy anything what developers said about the game until the game came out it was also one of those preventive steps of not pre-ordering games
This is true, but we should acknowledge that these decisions are made by the publishers, not the devs. Question what the devs say, sure, but remember that the reason they are saying it is because they are basically forced to by the publisher, and with that in mind, it's the publisher that ultimately needs to be held accountable.
@@grahamspain2947 THIS - 9 times out of 10, the problems with a game are the result of the publishers, NOT the developers. The game has DRM because the publishers decided it should be there, not the developers. The game has microtransactions because publishers are trying to placate the shareholders, not the developers. A game launches buggy because publishers pushed for a release before the game was done, almost always despite the wishes of the developers making the game themselves. Don't buy anything the developers say because they are essentially HELD HOSTAGE by a publisher who can gatekeep what the developer says, and publishers directly benefit from lying to its consumers.
@@grahamspain2947 tch, I was about to saying that, but the general point I was trying to say is. One should not be putting KT/Nacon up on the pedestal just because they're we're doing anything pro-gamer (ie. listening to the fans, not filling their games w/ microtransactions, all that sort of stuff) It's a difficult thing to say why, but I was old enough to remembering the likes of Ubisoft, Bethesda, Blizzard, and recently Naughty Dog and CDPR we're once hailed as the respected game developers until Fallout 76, Warcraft Reforged, TLOU2, and that certain futuristic "next generation of open world adventure" came along and every single one of these pro-consumer companies gone down on the line
@@adlibbed2138 its an unfortunate and all-too-common path for videogame companies to take these days, and even smaller companies are following suit. Even Devolver digital, a company that made fun of games without microtransactions, now has them in at least one of their games. Hopefully we are all wrong about Solar Crown, but regardless, we really appreciate that you share our understanding of the problems facing this game and the industry as a whole. Also, sorry we took sooooo long to reply lol!
I hope this game doesn't flop cause I need something else than the crew 2 cause that game is absolute shit. The time it takes to turn your wheel 360° is stupidly slow
We're hoping for the best too. That's part of the reason we made these videos - to pressure the publisher into keeping a distance from KT racing and letting them have enough time and resources to make the game great. In the meantime, have you considered trying any of the Forza Horizon games?
@@Jonasofzo We're sorry to hear that. If you can afford it, we would recommend getting an Xbox One or One S secondhand considering how many different Forza games came out this generation and how well optimized they are.
@@dankswank9088 I could afford one but I don't know anyone that has a next gen xbox so there is no point to me in getting one since I always have to play alone. I can also meet people but I rather play with friends that I know irl.
We personally made them. For the Range Rover, all we did was go into the paint tool on Forza Horizon 3, made the base color gold, and put a few black vinyl layers. That's it. We're sure you could easily find a dozen replicas of the Solar Crown Range Rover livery shared on Horion 4, and if not, it's pretty easy to make! All the other cars were just us selecting the closest match to the colors from solar crown from the selection of stock colors for each vehicle.
Well we certainly think that Nacon’s past has little bearing relative to the general trend of hypermonetizing games to enrich shareholders. We hope we’re wrong, but we wouldn’t put it past them, especially considering that they are a publicly-traded company.
Sounds like to me that you haven't done a smidge of research on nacon or Kt racing at all, all the comparison's you make are outright lies. Example: they rely solely on shareholders for funding, which is outright wrong, a literal quote from them a year ago from a interview stated that the sales from wrc10 would fund the development costs of TDUSC
@@dankswank9088 if Leon knows this he is going to make another video about you and the other way around.... damnit. Look, only some of us are TDU fanboys, since i am also a fan of Forza. But still, what you are doing here is right but also wrong. You got the freedom the speech, but i don't want Leon to make another video about this. So please, if Leon makes another video about you, know who to blame and PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER video about it. Blame Leon, not the community. No one has ever went this far at dissing a rant video. Some fans are even quitting the official TDUSC server because of this issue. At the end of the day, both of you are wrong. I hope with this message, Leon and you will look at each others mistake. Peace ✌
@@PerseusJPN So let's get this straight; you are upset because leonjhk MIGHT create another video about this? Who cares? just don't watch it! Also, if he chooses to make another video, that's on him; he's not a leaf blowing in the wind he can make decisions for himself. Plenty of people have gone much farther than we have with youtube responses (mainly by making videos that are actual rants instead of focused videos making a specific point). If fans are really quitting the discord server because some guy decided to post a video discussing possible issues with the game instead of using those videos to push Nacon to improve the game, then they must not have cared about the game all that much anyway, did they?
@@dankswank9088 you don't get it Leon is famous in the community so it's like blood and piranhas. You are blood, the community is the piranhas, and i am the body of water just trying to prevent war from happening, i mean if you think about it, who likes drama after all, also i am just trying to defend a nameplate of a game, not a fanboy.
Just to clarify - Please DO NOT harass L3ONJHK. He made a mistake and thus should be given room to improve.
Dank Swank is very much against the idea of an "echo chamber". Everyone's opinions are valid and we're sure that this new knowledge will help him rectify his mistakes.
Sorry but this comment just seems like you did the same exact thing that he did.
@@rpzdjoker8609 Yeah it's almost like I did it to make a point about his passive-aggressive behavior or something
@@dankswank9088 Maybe but still childish play
Childish is some rando on the internet talking down to us like a misbehaving child for daring to provide valid criticism of a game he hasn’t even seen yet.
@@dankswank9088 Agreed with that but reacting back like a child does that make you any better that is all I saying. Like the video was great just didn't think the comment was need
This game will suck .
This Dev are goofs 🤪
Even the last game 13 years ago was broken af
And they said bikes would come later
They added years later and charged for em .
They SUCK you'll see
Agree with your argument, and hope tdu sc be a great game, with out toxic fanboy community.
Also hello from Russia)))
Same here; it would be wonderful if the game overcomes the hurdles ahead of it.
Excluding anything said in the video… I’m in disbelief that you have 500 subs!
A great channel, with well thought arguments and opinions, members with a large vocabulary, and good entertainment I’m sure many can get behind
We are honored, both that you think so highly of our work and to have you as a subscriber. Not to toot our own horn, but you aren't the first person to be shocked by our low subscriber count. We thank you for helping us mitigate that low count and welcome you to the classiest cavern on the worldwide web!
THANK YOU for addressing all of his nonsense WAY better than I could have ever hoped. Glad to be able to have your back as some slight voice of reason.. sad that his video sapped me of the brainpower to be as articulate as you. Amazing work and I hope more people see it.
Truth be told, we think you did a pretty fantastic job calling him out yourself! I mean, if he felt threatened enough by your comments to delete them, you must have done something right!
That can imply every fandoms nowadays. You cant avoid a fandom without them going out there way to be toxic as hell to everyone
Exactly: every fandom, wether it be videogames or books or movies, has toxic fanbases whose toxicity can infect other aspects of media and daily life. It’s part of the reason we made this video; to call out toxic behavior and encouraged an active push back against it to mitigate its effects on this game and the culture as a whole.
whatever you do, just don't buy anything what developers said about the game until the game came out
it was also one of those preventive steps of not pre-ordering games
You hit the nail on the head as per usual, my friend!!!
This is true, but we should acknowledge that these decisions are made by the publishers, not the devs. Question what the devs say, sure, but remember that the reason they are saying it is because they are basically forced to by the publisher, and with that in mind, it's the publisher that ultimately needs to be held accountable.
@@grahamspain2947 THIS - 9 times out of 10, the problems with a game are the result of the publishers, NOT the developers. The game has DRM because the publishers decided it should be there, not the developers. The game has microtransactions because publishers are trying to placate the shareholders, not the developers. A game launches buggy because publishers pushed for a release before the game was done, almost always despite the wishes of the developers making the game themselves. Don't buy anything the developers say because they are essentially HELD HOSTAGE by a publisher who can gatekeep what the developer says, and publishers directly benefit from lying to its consumers.
@@grahamspain2947 tch, I was about to saying that, but the general point I was trying to say is. One should not be putting KT/Nacon up on the pedestal just because they're we're doing anything pro-gamer (ie. listening to the fans, not filling their games w/ microtransactions, all that sort of stuff)
It's a difficult thing to say why, but I was old enough to remembering the likes of Ubisoft, Bethesda, Blizzard, and recently Naughty Dog and CDPR we're once hailed as the respected game developers until Fallout 76, Warcraft Reforged, TLOU2, and that certain futuristic "next generation of open world adventure" came along and every single one of these pro-consumer companies gone down on the line
@@adlibbed2138 its an unfortunate and all-too-common path for videogame companies to take these days, and even smaller companies are following suit. Even Devolver digital, a company that made fun of games without microtransactions, now has them in at least one of their games. Hopefully we are all wrong about Solar Crown, but regardless, we really appreciate that you share our understanding of the problems facing this game and the industry as a whole. Also, sorry we took sooooo long to reply lol!
I hope tdu devs see this 🙏keep it up 👌
So do we! It's one of the only ways (short of boycotting their games) that we can get the point across!
No one:
Solar Crown fanboys watching this video:
"RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
They've been surprisingly well-behaved so far - let's see how long that lasts!
I hope this game doesn't flop cause I need something else than the crew 2 cause that game is absolute shit. The time it takes to turn your wheel 360° is stupidly slow
We're hoping for the best too. That's part of the reason we made these videos - to pressure the publisher into keeping a distance from KT racing and letting them have enough time and resources to make the game great. In the meantime, have you considered trying any of the Forza Horizon games?
@@dankswank9088 no because i don't have an xbox and my laptop is not suitable to play those huge games
@@Jonasofzo We're sorry to hear that. If you can afford it, we would recommend getting an Xbox One or One S secondhand considering how many different Forza games came out this generation and how well optimized they are.
@@dankswank9088 I could afford one but I don't know anyone that has a next gen xbox so there is no point to me in getting one since I always have to play alone. I can also meet people but I rather play with friends that I know irl.
@@Jonasofzo You could just get the Xbox One (a lot easier to come by)
Another worrying thing is KT has disabled comments on the Trailer video on their RUclips channel.
Just a question, are those liveries up on FH4 or did you personally make them?
We personally made them. For the Range Rover, all we did was go into the paint tool on Forza Horizon 3, made the base color gold, and put a few black vinyl layers. That's it. We're sure you could easily find a dozen replicas of the Solar Crown Range Rover livery shared on Horion 4, and if not, it's pretty easy to make! All the other cars were just us selecting the closest match to the colors from solar crown from the selection of stock colors for each vehicle.
@@dankswank9088 cool thanks for the answer
17:38 "A very well thought and wholesome response" lol really?
What's more wholesome than telling someone they are crazy idiots?
@@dankswank9088 It's like they don't understand irony or something lol
Alan J directed that TDU2 have microtransactions... why wouldn't he do the same again today??? Nacon's past seems far less relevant.
Well we certainly think that Nacon’s past has little bearing relative to the general trend of hypermonetizing games to enrich shareholders. We hope we’re wrong, but we wouldn’t put it past them, especially considering that they are a publicly-traded company.
*L3ONJHK* disliked that.
He must be one of those “hit dislike and run away” people
did he deleted the channel?
You had me until "issues like climate change". Good luck (to you both) arguing your ass off an unreleased game, Venusian.
I'm sorry briefly mentioning climate change denial was enough to ruin the video for you.
@@dankswank9088 Yeah, "AA" video game assholes are more important than world leading assholes.
So true
Return of the King™️
He wants to be leafy *soooooo* *bad*
I mean, I can’t find his channel anymore, so I guess it’s all just a little bit of history repeating...
Sounds like to me that you haven't done a smidge of research on nacon or Kt racing at all, all the comparison's you make are outright lies. Example: they rely solely on shareholders for funding, which is outright wrong, a literal quote from them a year ago from a interview stated that the sales from wrc10 would fund the development costs of TDUSC
Wow you sure got me 🙄
And it's crap.
Yeah I wonder how everyone that thought we were crazy feels now…
@@dankswank9088 I was one of those people up until a year or two ago.
Ouch. Lol
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@@dankswank9088 if Leon knows this he is going to make another video about you and the other way around.... damnit. Look, only some of us are TDU fanboys, since i am also a fan of Forza. But still, what you are doing here is right but also wrong. You got the freedom the speech, but i don't want Leon to make another video about this. So please, if Leon makes another video about you, know who to blame and PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANOTHER video about it. Blame Leon, not the community. No one has ever went this far at dissing a rant video. Some fans are even quitting the official TDUSC server because of this issue. At the end of the day, both of you are wrong. I hope with this message, Leon and you will look at each others mistake. Peace ✌
@@dankswank9088 correction, that happens for both of you.
@@PerseusJPN So let's get this straight; you are upset because leonjhk MIGHT create another video about this? Who cares? just don't watch it! Also, if he chooses to make another video, that's on him; he's not a leaf blowing in the wind he can make decisions for himself. Plenty of people have gone much farther than we have with youtube responses (mainly by making videos that are actual rants instead of focused videos making a specific point). If fans are really quitting the discord server because some guy decided to post a video discussing possible issues with the game instead of using those videos to push Nacon to improve the game, then they must not have cared about the game all that much anyway, did they?
@@dankswank9088 you don't get it Leon is famous in the community so it's like blood and piranhas. You are blood, the community is the piranhas, and i am the body of water just trying to prevent war from happening, i mean if you think about it, who likes drama after all, also i am just trying to defend a nameplate of a game, not a fanboy.