'You couldn’t make this stuff up’: Irony as Tasmania's 'battery of the nation' is flat
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Tasmania’s wealth of hydroelectric energy has been eyed off by other government’s wanting to “tap into” the state’s resources which has led to the “battery of the nation running flat,” says The Australian’s Environment Editor Graham Lloyd.
“This comes straight from the file of ‘you couldn’t make this stuff up’,” Mr Lloyd told Sky News host Peta Credlin.
“The irony is, with Tasmania supplying hydro elsewhere, to firm up supplies on the mainland it has resorted to burning gas to sort out its own needs.”
We don’t have an energy crisis in our country …..we have an ignorant and weak or corrupt politician crisis.
Yeah and the people supporting them. It's very sad
You can shout that out
And yet everyone you talk to never voted Labor why is that I wonder.
Both parties are useless and have sold us all out
More like an ignorant voter crisis.
Australia has the world's dumbest energy minister in Chris Bowen. How lucky are we 😪
communist albanese is worse...
He's only just worse than the UK's, so very close race. They just don't seem to look at the long term, only short term to keep the activists happy.
Matches our dumbest PM - absolutely despise these two arrogant narcissists - throw in the greens and you have a complete clutterf...k
@@me38443 The UK is willing to let the activists block the street too.
Our own blackout boy
If you understand that politicians simply don't care, you then understand the problem.
Or are they the problem because they keep voting these muppets in.
Electric Eric had the Hydro built for us.
The tree huggers that demonstrated against it now take their grand kids fishing there.
It's our source of cheap renewable energy, but its been sold out to the north islanders because their government didn't allow for the immigration flood gates they opened.
Now we have to pay ten times what we should get for almost nothing.
Labor bloody government shafting us again.
And that hunch back moron Victorian premier has got his hands on our timber now.
Bingo!
Of course! IT'S not their money!
If the politicians keep people scared, that brings them more power. They want people to rely on them for everything.
So the former head of the Greens party doesn't want windmills in his own backyard! 😂😂 How funny is that. What a glowing endorsement of his own ideology
Those wind " farms" look like a scam to me , there's def nothing recyclable about these giant plastic windmills.
We have been lead to be scared of nuclear ( I know this.will automatically trigger backlash) , I think from the mistakes of the past learnt ie make them earthquake proof which they now do , they are probably the solution staring us in the face . Why is it called " new clear" nuclear energy if it's soooo dirty ?
Money is muddying the water as it stands and 99% of people in suits and ties are nothing but money heads gone wild
Green and Fools goes hand in hand LOL.
Must be a big backyard Bob has. I thought Bunnings bankrupted him. But sounds like he's rich again if he can fit wind generators behind his house.
He admitted that they would ruin the view from his home by saying it would be inappropriate on the scenery. BUt its all fine if its in YOUR backyard.
@@voxac30withstrat In other words, same as everyone. "Of course the state badly needs a new prison, they should start building one soon. But not near me, I've got kids".
"Yes, we really need that freeway extension, the traffic is terrible. But it should be built 2 suburbs away.I bought this block 15 years ago, for the quiet and solitude".
And so on and so on. It's human nature, and there are some good arguments to support being a NIMBY. Everyone's a NIMBY
Environmentalists seem to promote these kinds of projects but will take no responsibility when things don't work out. Funny that.
Did environmentalists build it? More likely the Pollies who manage and fund it with our tax dollars and then engineer shortages forcing us to look at alternatives so we can keep our home lights on. Like when the pollies who approved export of our LNG to Asian nations and we can't afford to heat our home. Pollies decided this and told us they have to keep their word on OS contracts at the expense of the contract with the Australian people.
Environmentalists, are warming the planet.
@@zorbakaput8537 so, maybe voting differently in the future will help. Environmentalists vote. They can vote for practicality, too.
@@zorbakaput8537 Build what? Please don't be talking about an actual battery.
We sell gas to "Asian" countries because Asian countries are close to us. In 2022 we sold 71.998 million mt to Japan. We only consume a tiny fraction of that. When we consume more, the price we pay will fall. Basic law of capitalism, the more you buy, the less you pay.
The export of our resources is actually what keeps the lights on. I.e., tax revenue provides services.
It is a cult. So if people die they don't care.
Well if Tasie doesn't set the alarm ringing I don't know what will! 😮. We are allowing these government types to implement their rediculous plan upon us. They serve their masters well.
Alarm bells are ringing loud and clear but Climate Zealots like Bowen can't hear it and never comprehend its meaning , the European nations showed the folly of green energy and the ramifications of reliance upon green energy
Soros??? absolutely is behind this as is GATES
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong."
Thomas Sowell.
Sowell is great. Truly.
Amazing!
Im in South Africa where we have 2-3 sets of 2 hour blackouts/load shedding every day... it’s killling businesses, it’s causing homes, appliances to break and catch fire from the voltage and amperage issues.
Yet, the entire electricity management team and CEO got millions in bonuses.
How do you get a bonus for not doing the job and being wrong!
This is such a beautiful statement. ❤
In a perfect world, legislators would be prosecuted for the impacts of their overt decisions.
.
Chris "No Nuclear" Bowen is going to make us a 3rd world country
na australians will, they are the ones that vote...
@@alwaysright3718It's who counts the votes 🐵
@@monkeyonarock People are stupid...
Where were the nuclear Libs from 2013 to 2022? C'mon fake name don't slink away. Tell us what they did to promote nuclear power. You're going to slink away, aren't you?
Maybe we can plug the nuclear subs into the grid. Oh hang on, they’ll arrive in 30 years 😂😂😂
We are to be damned by green madness.
That's their point.
That's there overall plan.
They want to destroy capitalism. Energy is its lifeblood.
It's controlled demolishion. "Great reset" after which we will be living in dystopian neofeudal society, if people don't pull their heads out of you know where.
Junkie Lambie will sort it out
Lock stock and barrel the jank
Same issues in clean, green New Zealand. This week we were told we were on the verge of power cuts because of the cold snap. And yet EVs, electrical heating, and a digital currency are being forced on us. What could possibly go wrong...
Oh yeah when the power goes out there goes your money
this is all planned it's all part of the plan it has to be nobody could be this stupid
We can fix the energy problem right now, have our open cut coal mines identify as green. Problem fixed 👍
Green coal. Referring to the ultra low emissions made when it is burnt, not it's colour, which is a deep black, deeper only slightly than other coal, completely indistinguishable from regular coal but look, we have a special tick in a box saying it's green. (The idea has merit, I like it).
Thats genius! Just get Albo to write the solution on an a4 sheet of paper!!
@@mrgoodman6620 🤣
And coal is organic!!!!
@@davidkennedy4845 That is..... actually a good point! 👍
“You couldn’t make this stuff up …” You don’t have to make it up. It’s just reality that’s denied till it smacks you in the face.
Actually both the Murdoch stooges in the above clip made a lot of stuff up. Basically it's a non story built on bullshit.
And is the topic of conversations amongst normal people across the country.
and they will still deny it when it smacks them.
Did they copy Norway? I bet they did. The comments in here are very similar to comments among norwegians in norwegian free and indepandant media.
Our crazy power politics took a turn for worse march 2021.
Tassie is only a small State, But yes the Nation is screwed.
I guess the Libs should have done something when they were in government from 2013 to 2022? Yeah?
@@EL_Duderino68 yes i agree, politicians have screwed this country and still are.
@@JackSht-lv2on I expected Australia's government to fall during COVID. You guys will roll over for anybody in authority.
@@EL_Duderino68 Difficult with the greens and labor getting in the way.
@@smedleyfarnsworth263 They never tried to do anything that could be gotten in the way of.
Every story that comes out about our energy system is a tale of utter chaos .
Not chaos, just stupidity. If their power generation system has X capacity, on average, then you want to run it with some margin. Otherwise things may come crashing down. E.g. hydroelectric power generation relies on a flow and a reservoir of water. Right? What happens if you run it too hard and drain the reservoir? Margin gone + time = power generation gone! Stupidity!
So the libs were in government from 2013 to 2022. What did they do cobber?
@@herrpez Shortages are usually more to do with low rainfall than running it too hard.
@@indiathylane2158 That is an obvious part of the equation, yes.
@@indiathylane2158 But the story states they ran it way too hard. Has no-one noticed the states that proudly announce they are going green have all had to source hydro or coal fired power to keep their lights on yet Bowen and Co want all of Australia to go green and close fossil fuel power. Where will they get their shortfall then? Madness personified and not very environmentally sound either. Australia has already cut down 10's of millions of trees to create solar and wind farms. We will pay the price very soon for this ideological madness. As they say "Go woke - Go broke". But no problem, when it all comes crashing down they will blame CC/GW.
I used to be a massive proponent for renewable energy, fell for all the hype, like all socialists they make it sound so good.
Now i realise all of this renewable stuff is actually worse for the environment and the planet as a whole.
And the financial incentives set in place by government to encourage citizens to go solar only benefits the power companies. I generate more power than I use yet still get a power bill. A slanted system if ever there was one.
I gave you a like. There's hope for you. Knowing now that people will lie for the sake of greed you might look at some other things that have been instilled in you from childhood. Say things like you live on a spinning ball hurling through space. Just saying.
@@shealdedmon7027
you just had to open your mouth and remove all doubt - i diot
@@shealdedmon7027Well, it's saner than saying that the Earth is the only flat celestial object in the observable universe and that it is accelerating upwards at 9.8m/s/s for no apparent reason. Or that other one I heard, that the Earth is really a doughnut shape and that the north and south poles are in fact one and the same.
@@davidkennedy4845if that the case it's time to become off-grid
Green stupidity is everywhere. Last year the state of Texas in the US ran low on power in the middle of Winter and people were in danger of dying in freezing homes because the regional power authority wanted to convert to "renewables". Off shore wind farms are not only sweeping birds from the sky, but also killing migrating whales. Solar panels made in China, have a carbon footprint 4 times larger than the estimates from the UN panel. Electric cars are straining the grid capacity and when they wear out, they will be toxic and will have to be handled as hazardous waste. Batteries for the cars are also very toxic and manufacturing them has a carbon footprint equal to that of a gasoline car that has been driven for 200,000 km. The entire "green initiative" is nothing but a deception. The politicians who are pushing it are all liars and thieves.
Another flat-earther zealot using this story as a platform for for their zealotry. There's zero proof off shore generators have any effect on whales at all.
"Sweeping birds from the sky" is a hilarious exaggeration.
By far the biggest cause of injury and death from cold in Texas in 2022 were a series of more severe than usual storms.
Storm damage was also by far the main cause of electricity shortages. Not green policies.
Take your dogma elsewhere,or at least stop lying.
all true ...the electric car is the biggest lie and stupid people to enormous money for something that will help kill the planet ...who is behind it all
Well said👍👍👍
Spot on
Hell yea I'm with you mate 👌
Why dont you ask the geniuses at just stop oil what to do. They seem to know it all.
Even Michael Moore figured out that "green" energy is a scam.
Yep. And the Carbon credit thing is the biggest grift.
Michael Moore is both incredibly stupid by incredibly smart in other areas. It's really odd. He's clearly a very intelligent guy who got poisoned by partisan politics
I know,, and he is a major leftist and he still knew it was bull shit..🧐👍🏽
Carbon credit THE absolute biggest shakedown in recorded history.
Michael Moor? I thought he was dead.
We’ve snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with our insane, self-harming power policies.
Can someone explain to me why Bowen/Albo keep saying renewables are the cheapest way to generate power, but the more renewables we get the more expensive electricity gets?
They're only cheaper because governments create regulations that make it that way.
They are liars.
Like any new system, they have to pay for themselves first.
@indiathylane2158 then they should say so! However the lifespan of a windmill for instance isn't that great and requires a bunch of maintenance to keep it running for that not so significant lifespan. Then in the end it becomes a pile of garbage. Garbage in garbage out.
@Fluckor666 So that's why they're called renewables....after 15 to 20 years, they need to be renewed, but how do you recycle the fibreglass turbine blades, or the solar panels????
In the last 10 years there has been a massive take up of roof top solar in Tasmania which should give additional grid capacity. As the state government takes dividends from Hydro profit, the temptation to sell cheap hydro power at a huge mark up to the mainland was too great. In one fiasco the undersea power cable failed while dam levels were low, resulting in the Hydro having to bring in diesel generators to prop up the system. The Tas Hydro is owned by the people of Tasmania and they should get first priority for power and dividends should be given back to the owners, not to the state government for vote buying/pork barreling.
and how are you going to store that at night when the highest demand will be especially if everyone has an electric car?
@@pmrose18 That's when you use the Hydro output. It's not power issues here, it's capitalism issues.
@@pmrose18 apparently we have supply issues now but the hydro dams are the storage for night time use - if we don’t export power to the mainland and draw down on dam levels.
@@pmrose18Dams make excellent storage, you can even use daytime solar extra capacity to pump water back. The big problem is going to be the rapid increase population due to immigration and migration and greed from selling the power.
You don’t understand the magnitude of power required of the storage required.
Rooftop solar does not provide stable and reliable energy.
Chris Bowen and the Labor party will destroy the standard of living for Australians.
Hope NZ politicians are watching this about the energy crisis in Tasmania. They're heading us exactly the same way.
They're all following UN policies, they don't care
The current government is as stupid as the current government in Australia, unfortunately I don't know if the incoming government will be any better, I just hope I'm wrong.
Net zero is gradually being exposed for what it is: utter lunacy.
Maybe an economic crisis will trump the “climate crisis”.
It already should be
Im sure the Voice wont run out of power.
The permanent bureaucracy doesn't care about "electoral punishment". And they are the ones in charge.
Fully agree!
And in America it’s that and the corporate leaders. It’s why I always say voting is irrelevant even if it was not rigged.
Guns.
All Tasmania's problems began when they privatised the hydro and connected with Victoria. The private company saw a prime opportunity to make billions and drained the lakes to supply Victoria. Then along came a drought, the lakes didnt fill and Tassie had to import diesel generators to make up their shortfall. There are some pieces of infrastructure that should not be in the hands of private institutions.
I agree. Power, water, gas, infrastructure should only ever be public assets. Worked very well until the public assets in Victoria were sold off to pay off a previously accrued labor government debt! Got nothing left to sell off now.
Hydro is not privatised... it’s owned by the Tasmanian Government 100%.
what makes you think the government can do anything better
This is what happens when decision making is taken away from those that A, know what they are talking about, and B, don't have vested interests. The original Hydro Electric Commission was set up to benefit all Tasmanians and to provide reliable and cheap electricity to the state. In fulfilling this role, they developed world leading knowledge and constructed a generation network that has served us well and would continue to do so if it were not for the meddling of politicians and activists.
A grave mistake was made when the Franklin Dam was blocked, and further mistakes continue to be made in the name of a quick buck and the appeasement of the green nutjobs, who even now, lobby for the draining of part of our Hydro Dam storage.
Can we put the adults back in charge before it's too late?
I knew a guy who worked in administration of the hydro electricity commission ,20 years ago he told me that it doesn’t have the capacity to sell to the mainland without huge expansion,something the greens opposed with zeal , they don’t seem to understand that it has limits which are well below the demand
Peta Credlin is doing a brilliant job on our behalf
wen climate change is so unpredictable why would anyone rely upon the weather for powee suply no wonder so many are going nuclear.
She is one of the only ' real' journalists left in this country
He's doing a better job than most women!
sometimes yeah... she still has a few red pills to get down though...
I'm just so grateful she got rid of Tony Abbott for us.
Austria (not Australia) is covered with wind turbines which only contribute 10% electricity to the grid, when they are mechanically functional and the wind is blowing.
What about Norway??
@@commentnotapproved1604 90% hydro. Austria at best is 60% hydro.
Any bird life remaining?
@@zoneundertop A traumatised few.
Ha ha don’t BITHER. Wind farms are awful and cannot be easily disposed of when obsolete…..
Forget about Wind and Solar, it's time for real power plants 'Gas or Nuclear' to be built as a matter of urgency .
"and it is a crisis" ... Yes. A Self Inflicted Crisis.
Thoughts for the day
Wind farms and solar farms have run their race and will not proceed as it has been determined the astronomical costs are not sustainable.
An intermittent form of energy as the main component is unacceptable to industry and the population at large.
The shelf life of solar and wind infrastructure is short term and replacement is cost prohibitive.
Nuclear is a good option as well.
Here's a small sample of how many coal plants there are in the world today. I could go into using the advanced technology of thermally efficient, supercritical steam generators using our own world's best metallurgical coal; but what's the point, it is treated as hearsay and political hyperbole here in Oz.
The EU has 468 plants, building 27 more for a total of 495. They tell everyone else it's their responsibility to 'Save The Planet' from Climate Change, typical Europeans; morals are a philosophy, honesty is a heresy!
Turkey has 56 plants, building 93 more, total 149
South Africa has 79, building 24 more, total 103
India has 589, building 446 more, total 1036
The Philippines has 19, building 60 more, total 79
South Korea has 58, building 26 more, total 84
Japan has 90, building 45 more, total 135
AND CHINA has 2363, building 1171, total 3534
And our AUSTRALIAN politicians are going to shut down our 6 remaining plants and save the planet.
Posted 8th February 2016 by harry soothsayer
Grandma always asked me "IF they jump off a cliff will you just blindly follow?" Seem Aus Did not learn from All the Examples OF FAILED GREEN ENERGY ACROSS THE GLOBE!
My Mother always said that to me when a kid. Usually when I wanted a new Fad. But after the Trans movement and others I must say that Humans do tend to follow the herd. We are Lemmings with intelligence (which makes it worse).
SLOW LEARNERS
They'll blame Trump.
He's living rent free in your head. 😊
Orange man bad 🐵
@@mariahewitt9787More in yours I would suggest 🐵
@@mariahewitt9787 I charge him.
I blame him for Raping E. Jean. Carroll. That should be enough for anyone to reject him. Not the Cult members though.
Idealism vs reality.
Bass link was the beginning of the downfall for Tasmania's energy and the idiots now want to install a second cable FFS. Our whole power generation and distribution system was destroyed when they brought bass link online and broke up the HYDRO in to all these other separate entities. It has been a nightmare ever since. There are so many organisations now all trying to piece the processes together it's a frustrating and problematic procedure just to try and get the power connected to a building! This was done so they could sell our power to mainland Australia.
When Basslink went online all the safety margins in the dams were dropped by 2 meters. I found this out while working as a maintenance contractor with the Hydro for 8 years! This was done so the boffins with their fingers ready to hit the go button could sell our power when the prices were at a peak and demand was high with no regard for our own sustainability!
The other thing that is also ridiculous about Basslink was the cost of rent on the damn thing. We were paying something like 115 million a year and indexed to go up every year by roughly 5 million. It's probably more by now??
A few years back when the dams were low, for obvious reasons, we were low on power and they brought in all these generators at a cost of 40 odd million dollars to carry us over while the dams filled up. Wouldn't have been an issue if they hadn't dropped the safety margins by 2 meters and sold all our power?
The wind power they have here, like all wind power, is worth 3 parts of bugger all as the wind has to blow in the first place to get them going but when there's too much they shut down anyway. Great idea all you green idiots with degrees in diversity!
We should have the cheapest power in the world here in Tassie and just looked after ourselves. Industries of all sorts would come here based on this alone, now industries are closing due to the ridiculous power prices. Thanks all you brain dead politicians who think they know what's best for the rest of us but have never really left school or had a real job. Thanks for nothing!
WA did a half assed disastrous privatisation. They split the SEC into 3 companies with the aim to sell them off. The power stations were 1, the distribution was another (poles and wires) and the 3rd was the retailer (billing). The only one of the 3 that had an income was the billing company, Synergy. They screwed the distribution and generating companies, paying minimal for the power, minimal for the maintenance, selling the power at maximum and making huge profits, but the distribution and generation companies were going broke. This was allowed to go on for a decade or so and the Liberals were all set to sell Synergy off to foreigners while the other 2 companies had over 1 billion is debts. Labor won the next election and re-formed the 3 entities back into 1. This type of privatisation of a monopoly service is so wrong.
@ nuclearfishin Spot on mate!
That 2 metre drop in limits? May or may not have been a factor, depending on the dam levels, before and after.
Tassie _does_ have among the cheapest power in the country, I'd be pleased about that. 'In the world' is pushing it when you have Euro and Asian countries with their high tech systems.
Most machinery are designed to cut out when overloaded, turbines no exception. As for no wind, wouldn't Bass Straight be a place with a lot of wind most of the time?
Australia hasn't had much of a manufacturing base for decades. You can't expect Tassie to have many such businesses when the freight across the water makes them less competitive than the mainland. Fact of life.
@@peterschmidt1453 The power supply in WA was never sold as a commodity like in the US, where market forces made it rise and fall. They were only ever allowed to sell electricity at the rate the government allowed. Synergy lost half a billion dollars in 2018-19. It wasn't all merry fat profits.
@@indiathylane2158 Agreed, it was a half assed attempt at privatising that should not have been done for a monopoly enterprise. If the sale would have went ahead the people of WA would be paying much higher power costs for worse service.
Unplug the Bass link cable and keep the power in Tasmania.
Here in NE BC Canada, when the power company was running new large high power towers through the province, they coerced people and told them they had no choice but to accept the towers on their property. One couple that I know had a huge tower put right in their front yard, so that is what they see looking out their living room window. We don't own our property in Canada, the government can take it at any time.
There was a solution to the problem in a book called "The CIA Book of Dirty Tricks."
Same here in Australia. Communism has arrived in the West, due to the greed and weakness of traitorous politicians.
sounds like china with how people just lease land from the gov
Oz govt went woke, Oz govt went broke.
😂
The latest TOP 20 GDP results show Australia going down from 14 to 19! 😮 Good job Albo and co. Meanwhile Russia has gone up from 12 to an unbelievable 5!
Not the first time this has happened. Selling Tassie power to the mainland always screws over Tasmania. We’re normally self sufficient, but not if we sell it all offshore
Weird how running things at or above sustainable capacity isn't... well, isn't sustainable! ;)
Normally self-sufficient? Didn't the state run on expensive diesel when the HVDC cable between the mainland and the island was severed? Resulting in the myriad purchases of diesel generators by business and widespread blackouts and brownouts?
Sounds to me like they decided to go green and got WEF'd over.
@@sid2112 WEF around and find out. 😉
Yes we are normally self sufficient. They bought and ran expensive diesel generators because they had run all the reservoirs down to generate power to sell to the mainland and then realised we had no water left to generate power for ourselves. If they weren’t running down our water to sell the power we would be fine!
The Tas govt. says we need the links to back us up in a shortage, they say they were the only things that saved us during the drought, if Hydro wasn't going flat out during the drought supplying Victoria, we would not have run out of water, and wouldn't have had to import huge generators.
Doesn't the mainland power grid supply Tassie when they need it?
@indiathylane2158 Yes, basslink was supplying Tassie with coal power from la trobe Valley during the drought.
@@mchughcb I would have assumed it was power from wider sources, being a grid.
@@indiathylane2158 That was one reason for the cable, but with the mainland reducing its own supply, that is becoming a moot point.
@@mchughcb And we then got to pay the carbon tax on our bills as a result.
It's a wake up call for the rest of the country but will they
The renewable energy plan is an ultra expensive road to nowhere.
Bob Brown stopped a wind farm in his backyard , it ruined his view of the natural habitat
An entire farm would fit in his backyard? Rich dude.I thought Bunnings bankrupted him.
"...we won't have an economy in this country", and that's the point. Nobody votes themselves communism or cedes power to autocrats while they live in a stable society with a healthy economy.
I can scarcely believe it, but Bob Brown and I actually agree on something (that these wind farms are a terrible idea).
Bob Brown for all his faults was actually a lot better than the communists running the greens now
Yeah huge coal mines and coal fired power stations are so attractive by comparison.
@@kingjulian1549 well they've reliably kept the lights on for more than 100 years, so...
@@michaelnoble2432 - It depends on what you call reliable. About 3 years ago one of Qld's biggest power stations Callide - blew up and is still won't be back on line until at least next year and has cost $200M so far. And we have seen other stations around the country falling apart and continually going off line due to their age and inefficiency. They need to be replaced. We will need gas plants to make up the shortfall.
@@kingjulian1549 well OF COURSE coal power stations (and any power generator) will become less reliable if the required maintenance / upgrades are not performed!
The point is because of government policy and people actually listening to the hysterical alarmist, the required work wasn't done.
Wind projects WILL NOT solve Tasmania's problem... cost efficiency even if they complete the projects WILL be joke. Then the projects WILL collapse. It's insanity on steroids.
Norway had a surplus of hydro power until spring 2021. Then they laid down high capacity power cables to Germany and England. With the ACER agreement and handover our ownership of Nord Pool (power trading company) we would expect a surge in power prices in Norway in return. Our politicians claimed that the increase in power cost for the consumers would only be as low as 10%.
It peaked around 1800%. One thousand eight hundred percent.
Our politicians had wet dreams way back in the 90s about Norway becoming the green battery for Europe. Angela Merkel was thrilled. Then the could phase out coal fired powerplants and shut down nuclear plants.
Now our government subsidice households so that we now have an electricity price of "only" 400 to 500 percent of what it used to be. Our business and food industries do not get subsidices, so they pass on the extra energy cost to the pricetag. Hence, the households pay for that too. Which means the governments handouts are not that great after all. Besides, the vast majority of hydro powerplants are owned by ..... the state of Norway. So they collect a lot of money and hand out crumbs back to us so that not all businesses go bankrupt.
You think the electricity bills for Tasmanians will be much higher than it used to be?
The only rescue for the nation is to vote this Labor government out of power otherwise we are all screwed.
Libs are just as bad on this topic
And the other side will just open the divide and sell off everything for a quick buck. We are totally screwed no matter who we vote for - the future is third world capitalist country with rich and poor, or socialist country with just about everyone poor besides the political class. Greatz huh?
Federal Labor is not responsible for Tassie selling power to the mainland. That is a commercial arrangement between the states.
@@indiathylane2158 it’s all driven by government policy. It wouldn’t stand up in a true market and would never be even proposedz
While you have Spud Dutton as leader you are no chance. He’s as popular as poison.
How long before The Greens want to dam the Franklin?
No problem just fire up the diesel generator to charge it up just like they do with the windmills when the winds not blowing😂
King Island anyone?
Its not irony, it's mot incompetence, its meant to be flat... they know exactly what they're doing.
Coming to the UK very soon. Our shops and factories are now being forced out of business because they can't afford the lighting and heating bills
So, we are 1/2 way through winter, the time when the lakes and rivers get filled up, and a hydro power plant does not have the flow to keep operating. So what happens in March when it's hasn't rained in weeks and days are over 30 degrees?.
Well Australians, you get what you vote for! 🙄
Not always, many don't vote for any of the stupidity (I don't). Do I deserve it?
Australia must have nuclear power.
No. We have shit loads of coal
@@Bluepillphil-d1w Maybe both ?.
Never going to happen. Just get over it, petal.
@@Poorlineforeva never? Never is a long time. Rather it’s inevitable. Once the coal runs out in hundreds of years time, it’s the best and only option.
@@robertallan6373 sure, but the cave in to nuclear justifies their climate theory.
BlackRock are in New Zealand at the moment try to sell us one of these......😡
"Hydro electric = good."
"OK let's build some dams."
"DAMS???!!!"
The power generation game has always been een a hard one to balance the books on.The way it worked when I was young and working for the SEAQ was that they planned everything and I mean everything 10 years in advance and started acquisitions 5 years in advance by that I mean buying everything 5 years ahead of time.Can you imagine how much they saved doing that and of course they where always able to get all their ducks in a row in that time frame.and everyone was hapy and no politics involved to speak of.
Does not make sense as usual. Tasmania badly affected by losing its power to mainland...the same as Australian gas sold overseas leading to gas shortage in Australia.😮
The first time I heard the words climate change was with Al Gore presidential elections. And people laughed at him.
Everyone needs to go out and buy a good diesel generator!!
Good opportunity to increase the price of diesel even more.
There is no way to win unless you have your own solar/ battery off grid system.
Someones dropped the basket with all the eggs in.
Sounds like another green bonedogal!
Norway is in a similar situation. We were quite self-suficient with cheap, reliable hydro power. Then some politicians got a bit trigger-happy and built a cable for exporting electricity abroad...so now the power companies sell "green" hydro power to other countries while the consumers have to buy imported power for many times the price. It is actually baffeling how it is possible to mess up so badly...
Dont be baffled mate ,join the race to the bottom Australias going for GOLD
That's why I always use Duracell 😂.
The Flintstones have given a look into the future.
Sad to say this, but nice to see that Australia is as messed up as the US, we're not alone.😮
The Greens stop the damming of the Franklin River. This would have put Tasmania's power in surplus.
Maybe Greta can come down to consult on how to help.
One of her oars is broken so she will have to wait.
Isn't she on remand at the moment?
For a total population of 541k. Accountability anyone???
The hydro would be fine if the pollies hadn’t stolen it from the people and sold our own power to mainland Australia.
How does that work? When sending electricity to Victoria, did Tassie get blacked out?
Nut zero.
Ooohh gee whiz !
Green energy letting the side down when really needed…
Don’t say I didn’t tell you so !!!
We have a battery here in the UK we referto as electric mountain, it works very well as what it was designed for, to store energy to be used to smooth out the oruduction of both green energy production and other electricity generation means. It willonly work if the rest of the infrastructure is adequate and in place.
You're making sense. What are you doing here on Sky?
Tassie does not have "a battery", as Sky would love their gullible viewers to believe. When things are going well, Tassie (small state, big energy output) might be called the nation's battery because it sends excess hydro generated power to the mainland.
Never ever take anything Sky says seriously.
@@indiathylane2158 The truth is entirely optional on the Fox Network.
It's sad that they treat their ardent viewers like fools.
But the viewers seem to enjoy all of the lies and don't question them. I guess it gets them up in the morning.
@@FranksHairSalonFox is the same as all the other large news outlets, lies to support the corrupt govs of the world. Tucker told the truth and was fired. Everything you think is real news reporting is actually well calculated narrative supporting lies designed for maximum emotional control. You are a sheep.
@@FranksHairSalon Yes, that and I think many of them love feeling outraged. They enjoy believing the world is a scandal-sodden dystopia.
Nope, they do not question.
There is no energy transition, it is an energy shut down!!!
😂 I’m dead, freaking battery of the nation 😂
Well people keep puting Labor Governments in power what do you expect.... Australians only have themselves to blame !
i thought there was a floating powerstation assisting tazzie, or was it just for a mining operation?
They hate oil but you see they still need it every day. Hahaha
Exactly
Maybe they should have dammed the Franklin after all.
Lack of solid government/ football and supply of energy to other states before the needs of Tasmania? / Same with voice vote NO= no problem
And once again, it looks as if this "green energy" transition has not been well thought out.
Was never impressed with the Bass Link, the drought and low dam levels a few years ago had Tas' running out of power, but then as soon as we got dams up again, repeat the same nonsense. We should be looking after Tas' water and energy, not the mainland.
A farmer has blades from obsolete wind farms on his farm for 15 years waiting for disposable which is impossible.
I cant see the whole "net zero" idea as a malicious act against the common people.
All just ideology. Brown doesn't want wind in his state, he's just canned the hole energy BS.
Cut off bass link stop marinus link
Bacon government disaster of a legacy
That has been the whole idea from the beginning. We had heading towards 3rd world NO electricity No cars.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This renewable energy strategy is mental.
My post got deleted , I upset the Pet Oh Files
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mine get deleted all the time. Sky doesn't like the truth. It goes against their policy to Lie to their viewers.
@@FranksHairSalon is it sky or YT ?
I always thought it was YT
@@stgnsw See, there's your problem. Thinking.
@@FranksHairSalon 😅😅
How Handy the Franklin Dam would be now in these Times of Power Demands, time the High Court reversed there wrong Decision on the Franklin Dam and the Federal Government rebooted the Project.
Greens are all for green energy, but not wind power and no more hydro - whats left?
Bowen is totally unaware that wind turbines need wind, that solar panels need sunshine, that EVs use a huge amount of electricity. Bowen is not interested in details that affect on his green religion. The proponents of electric long-haul trucks will tell you the battery swaps happen at ideal intervals for driver rest stops. Except the driver cannot rest. The trailers have to be unhitched and the prime move backed into a shed under a gantry crane. The battery packs are very heavy, like 500kg or more. With the battery packs swapped the driver has to drive out of the shed and hitch the trailers. Only then can the driver rest.
The problem with renewables is it's oversold, over and over. How many times can the same energy be sold before people realise the sums just don't add up?
dream world we'll all be green, REALworld it just isnt going to happen and the green brigade really need to understand this.
Back to the stone age, everyone will go back to wood fired for heating and cooking when gas is banned or priced out