After months of trial and error I reached the conclusion the Hassou Tobi damage bypass was patched for the port rerelease, even with every rng condition met hassou tobi only deals about 185 per hit
Did you do it using Technical o Critical damage?, becasue it only works when you deal a critical with that skill, if you use Technical, it will trigger the damage limit.
tried doing this recently but with mods and it seems they added dmg caps to the lavenza phases so I can't just nuke her in one hit using yaldaboth's nuke
She has those caps in the first 3 phases since the ps4 version, but for wherever reason when you deal a critical hit with Hassou Tobi, this skill seems to bypass those caps, its something unique of this skill. It must be a critical hit, when you try with a technical, it triggers the damage cap.
finally i won but not even in 5 turns. got all stats up to 99 , same equipment's , but thunder reign got only 4k damage which didnt process to 2nd phase,or im doing something wrong ? luckily i passed phase 3 but 4 was awful as tobi was the weakest skill i used
@@robjoker3786 nice, just tried it, the only thing that when i attacked with tobi i didnt get the critc, and ann's technical was half of the damage you delt
@@robjoker3786 i wasnt on merciless, repeated on it, still scoring less than 5k ,ann on 81 MA .anyways, i'm satisfied as i beat P3/4 heroes on merciless , thank you for helpful guidance
You must bait her using a persona with nuke weakness, she will prioritize attacking your weakness over using tetrakarn, thats why I use Arahabaki in phase 3.
@@epic0863 Nope, she will 50/50 use sword dance or tetrakarn if you have an immune persona, but if you have an open weakness she is goig to attack that weakness 100%.
im in NG+, this is the last achievement i'm missing, i came from your other video challenge but couldnt win, i've everything you have , just missing some extra stats on personas, is that related to win ? or it's just pure lucky RNG and i've to repeat the same every time until i can manage to win ?
If you want to defeat her in 2 turns then yeah is a rng fest because you need a critical and Ryuji's trait to happen at the same time, is alot easier if you want to defeat her in 3 turns because you just need a critical hit to happen when you use Hassou Tobi.
@@robjoker3786 do i need tobi at 99 stats or no? I don't care about number of turns, I just wanna beat her ASAP with shortest ways, can't handle long fights anymore 😭
@@robjoker3786 just noticed my passive is will of the swrod but yours is Undying Fury , should i rebuild another yosh ? also i dont have any drain skills , only tobi+charge+apt pupil+angelic grace + debilitate
It is need it, thats the main reason that beating her like this is so hard, because all the rng need it for the damage to be enough to defeat her in the 2nd turn.
@@robjoker3786 ah so, Lavenza's phase change is after she finished her monologue? That's why this 2 turns' Hassou Tobi deal less damage even with Eccentric Temper compared to your 3 turns video? I thought phase change is just whenever we hit the HP requirement
@@arnold2614 Yeah, her phases change with her hp, you can see a monologue each time you finish one phase. Phase 1 ends with 5k damage but you can deal 7,500 damage in phase 1, 2 and 3, after you reach that damage a damage limiter will trigger and you will deal 1-5 damage. The thing is that, this limiter seems to have a bug when you use Hassou Tobi and this deal a critical. If a critical happens when you use hassou Tobi this will bypass the limiter. Phase 2 Lavenza seems to have sharp stundent which makes alot harder to deal a critical hit in that phase. By te way this bug will only happens with a critical, technical will trigger the limiter.
You must go to billards, after the first time you played, go to shibuya underground mall´s sport shop and buy Billards magician magazine and read it, then keep going to Billards until a npc gives you another magazine, read it and go once more to billards, after that you will unlock more options for technical damage.
@@robjoker3786 No. You have to read all the books in Jinbocho. After that, the store will give you one more book, called Knowing The Heart. Reading that will get you your burning rage technical.
Question: Does Auto-Mataru stack with attack master? I have darkechi with attak master and joker with auto mataru. So im wondering if they stack up on akechi. Do they..?
The trait still gives you auto concentrate on the ps4 version, they never patch it, I don´t know if the pc, switch, ps5 or the x-box version still has it.
@@robjoker3786 in PC still has it, bro i have a question, I don't want to change my satanael since I did it based on your riot gun/almighty build, if I use black viper or megidolaon accompanied with Mighty Gaze instead of going for the berith/kelpie weakness will I do less damage following the same pattern?
@@dragonvessel6510 Mighty Gaze works on multy hit skills only, so if you want to use mighty gaze you must use a multy hit skill to get a similar damage, for example Megodolaon, Wild Thunder, etc.
Question I tried this but Yoshitsune’s damage only comes out at like 200 each hit and then the battle immediately ends with shorty’s AOA 🤭what am I doing wrong here?
THIS IS INSANE. When i see Izanagi no Okami my mind always goes to Myriad Truths and i forgot you could use Country maker for other skills too
The amount of preparation and rng needed to pull this off... I tip my fedora to you, sir
My favorite part of this video is when RobJoker said "It's Robin Time!" and then Robbed all over the bad guys.
Bro I love your content been subbed for over a year now. Your builds are very op.
Damn the music is from IDOL PROJECT. I listened to it million times already. And it's very cool to see it used here.
Also holy shit, well done
What is the track called?
@@CookieTwoStepSong name is
Suspect - Bouquet ver.
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Joker and Skull vs Shido but "It Has To Be This Way"
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After months of trial and error I reached the conclusion the Hassou Tobi damage bypass was patched for the port rerelease, even with every rng condition met hassou tobi only deals about 185 per hit
Did you do it using Technical o Critical damage?, becasue it only works when you deal a critical with that skill, if you use Technical, it will trigger the damage limit.
@@robjoker3786 criticals powered by ryujis trait, i have the video up in my channel
@@robjoker3786 Say, do you have a low-turn record for The Twins (No DLC, of course)?
What music did you use for this video, I loved it?!🤔👍
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@@robjoker3786banger song choice btw.
tried doing this recently but with mods and it seems they added dmg caps to the lavenza phases so I can't just nuke her in one hit using yaldaboth's nuke
She has those caps in the first 3 phases since the ps4 version, but for wherever reason when you deal a critical hit with Hassou Tobi, this skill seems to bypass those caps, its something unique of this skill. It must be a critical hit, when you try with a technical, it triggers the damage cap.
I subbed at like 600 subs
finally i won but not even in 5 turns. got all stats up to 99 , same equipment's , but thunder reign got only 4k damage which didnt process to 2nd phase,or im doing something wrong ? luckily i passed phase 3 but 4 was awful as tobi was the weakest skill i used
You need to start the battle with a Persona with Will of the Sword, this will give you auto concentrate at the start of the battle.
@@robjoker3786 nice, just tried it, the only thing that when i attacked with tobi i didnt get the critc, and ann's technical was half of the damage you delt
@@ma3oony Maybe you are not playing in merciless or you have Ann without fire boost + fire amp or with less than 80 mag
@@robjoker3786 i wasnt on merciless, repeated on it, still scoring less than 5k ,ann on 81 MA .anyways, i'm satisfied as i beat P3/4 heroes on merciless , thank you for helpful guidance
Why not just use a Persona with VotT and Thermopylae? If you're going for a 2 turn kill, wouldn't that work just as well?
Yeah, you can use Thermopylae if you don´t have F. Orpheus.
@@robjoker3786 I have F. Orpheus, but not a maxed out one and I already have a better Attis, so good to know
Random question is thunder reign stronger than the other severe attacks on Okami or do they all have the same dmg?
Same damage, I only use it in this fight because Lavenza has Kelpie equiped in her first turn, and Kelpie is neutral/weak to elec damage.
Bro, she just uses tetrakarn on third phase and screw my run all over... What the f* am I supposed to do??
You must bait her using a persona with nuke weakness, she will prioritize attacking your weakness over using tetrakarn, thats why I use Arahabaki in phase 3.
@@robjoker3786 Got it, thanks a lot!
I'm on New Game ++, I've managed to defeat her once, but I can't remember what strategy did I use.
@@robjoker3786is she still gonna prioritize the nuke weakness if i have block/repel/Drain nuke? Prolly not righz
@@epic0863 Nope, she will 50/50 use sword dance or tetrakarn if you have an immune persona, but if you have an open weakness she is goig to attack that weakness 100%.
im in NG+, this is the last achievement i'm missing, i came from your other video challenge but couldnt win, i've everything you have , just missing some extra stats on personas, is that related to win ? or it's just pure lucky RNG and i've to repeat the same every time until i can manage to win ?
If you want to defeat her in 2 turns then yeah is a rng fest because you need a critical and Ryuji's trait to happen at the same time, is alot easier if you want to defeat her in 3 turns because you just need a critical hit to happen when you use Hassou Tobi.
@@robjoker3786 do i need tobi at 99 stats or no? I don't care about number of turns, I just wanna beat her ASAP with shortest ways, can't handle long fights anymore 😭
@@ma3oony 99 str and 99 luck are mandatory if you want damage and higher chance of critical.
@@robjoker3786 BRB after couple of alarms 😭
@@robjoker3786 just noticed my passive is will of the swrod but yours is Undying Fury , should i rebuild another yosh ? also i dont have any drain skills , only tobi+charge+apt pupil+angelic grace + debilitate
Is Ryuji's eccentric temper required for the hassou tobi, or crit without eccentric temper is enough?
It is need it, thats the main reason that beating her like this is so hard, because all the rng need it for the damage to be enough to defeat her in the 2nd turn.
@@robjoker3786 ah so, Lavenza's phase change is after she finished her monologue? That's why this 2 turns' Hassou Tobi deal less damage even with Eccentric Temper compared to your 3 turns video?
I thought phase change is just whenever we hit the HP requirement
@@arnold2614 Yeah, her phases change with her hp, you can see a monologue each time you finish one phase. Phase 1 ends with 5k damage but you can deal 7,500 damage in phase 1, 2 and 3, after you reach that damage a damage limiter will trigger and you will deal 1-5 damage. The thing is that, this limiter seems to have a bug when you use Hassou Tobi and this deal a critical. If a critical happens when you use hassou Tobi this will bypass the limiter. Phase 2 Lavenza seems to have sharp stundent which makes alot harder to deal a critical hit in that phase. By te way this bug will only happens with a critical, technical will trigger the limiter.
Question why does my Ann's Blazing Hell not deal technical damage? Does fire element not work on Rage Ailment?
You must go to billards, after the first time you played, go to shibuya underground mall´s sport shop and buy Billards magician magazine and read it, then keep going to Billards until a npc gives you another magazine, read it and go once more to billards, after that you will unlock more options for technical damage.
@@robjoker3786 No. You have to read all the books in Jinbocho. After that, the store will give you one more book, called Knowing The Heart. Reading that will get you your burning rage technical.
thumbnail source? i need to make it my wallpaper
You can find it in this reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/PERSoNA/comments/14f7s0q/lavenza_nakanomaru925/
@@robjoker3786 aight thanks bruv
Question:
Does Auto-Mataru stack with attack master?
I have darkechi with attak master and joker with auto mataru. So im wondering if they stack up on akechi. Do they..?
Buffs do not stack, maybe if this game was SMT but all buffs can only go to -1,0-+1 in Persona.
Got a question, is will of the sword bug patched?
The trait still gives you auto concentrate on the ps4 version, they never patch it, I don´t know if the pc, switch, ps5 or the x-box version still has it.
@@robjoker3786 in PC still has it, bro i have a question, I don't want to change my satanael since I did it based on your riot gun/almighty build, if I use black viper or megidolaon accompanied with Mighty Gaze instead of going for the berith/kelpie weakness will I do less damage following the same pattern?
@@dragonvessel6510 Mighty Gaze works on multy hit skills only, so if you want to use mighty gaze you must use a multy hit skill to get a similar damage, for example Megodolaon, Wild Thunder, etc.
A bit late but what is this song
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@@robjoker3786 actual legend I thank you for this T-T
nice thumbnail
Question I tried this but Yoshitsune’s damage only comes out at like 200 each hit and then the battle immediately ends with shorty’s AOA 🤭what am I doing wrong here?
It must be a critical hit to bypass Lavenza´s resist physical passive. Yeah this ask for much RNG to work.
You need to inflict a technical in the second phase
Why don't you use Morgana use miracle punch instead of Ann using it?
Morgana can’t be in panthers possition, so I’m guessing that’s why
What's the song?
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How do i get rank 4
You mean Technical rank 4?, just go to billards
Congrats, this is very impressive, but i hate to be the one to say it, this song choice is ass.
Thanks, and don't worry, music is something subjective there is no song that can be love by everyone.
@@robjoker3786minor typo spotted