Wanderer may not really be a must pull in terms of meta, but he is so fun to play and now to me, exploring the map without him in my party just feels weird.
He's getting pulled this time around. I mean pulling for Eula too, but physical carries aren't really a priority for me. That and I can unironically yell "GET TO DA CHOPPA" whenever I switch to ol Hat Boy
wanderer is a must in any adventure team breaking new ground in newly realeased areas, cant wait to explore Fontaine with Kirara-Yelan c1 (second E for speed)-Wanderer and zhongli for shield and ores
@@thomasolsen4094 sadly with Ousia/Pneuma thing coming in we have to reserve 1/2 slot to have a better time exploring. it would be less of an issue if the shitty duration of opening up team set up menu is gone but oh well
Wandy is a good pull for those that like him. He can eat up any resources and scales really well with investment. Super flexible team slots compared to other main carry units. Great for exploration and has little weaknesses except abyss aoe and Anemo immune enemies. He’s a great all-rounder who will reward investment at endgame too.
As a diehard Kazuha Main, yes. GET HIM. He will genuinely make ANY content in the game easier. I was able to reach floor 4:3 of Spiral Abyss because of Kazuha. I was able to defeat Childe because of Kazuha. He’s my baby I love him so much.
@@mateshprince1535Loll the opposite happened to me. I lost the 50/50 for Zhongli so I used my guaranteed on Kazuha’s first banner. 100000000% worth it 🤌
From the perspective of a day one player I think this list is pretty accurate for which characters have the most general use. Only things I feel are important to stress is that Yelan isn't someone I would prioritize super highly starting out as she is really only a sidegrade to Xingqui, and building a diverse roster early is more valuable in my opinion. I also don't rate Shogun very highly, but that I'll admit is more personal bias. I feel like you could also make an argument for Baizhu and Kokomi being great supports in a similar role to Zhongli, and they are both highly versatile elemental applicator durability supports.
Since you brought up comfort being the reason you recommended Zhongli, I would l also like to put forward another character for similar reasons: Kokomi. Yes, she is a Hydro healer not unlike Barbara, who you can get for free, but Kokomi provides an added layer of versatility thanks to her consistent off-field Hydro application along with her healing. This lets her be a dependable unit in a variety of team compositions, since Hydro is integral for many elemental reactions. While she will be outmatched in terms of raw damage because of her inability to crit, casual players can appreciate how she widens the margin for error for your entire team.
@@avej99 Kokomi also has interupt resist while she is in her burst mode. That is her main advantage as it means she doesnt need a shield to resist interupt, making dendro team comps easier and more comfortable with her on them. Also, her extra clam damage can actually make her do similar aoe damage as other hydro mains at c0
Fishcl is most definitely the 4th musketeer after 3.0 but if you're not convinced then wait for 4.0, she is actually gonna turn into a second electro archon. *coughs : new artifact set,
And I was thinking, hmm new artifact set is good, but who uses elemental skill and sub dps? Damn fischl of course. Also, she was always good before dendro. One of her best features is energy gain, she was electro archon before electro archon.
i'm surprised that Fischl aka "budget Raiden" and Sucrose aka "4 star Kazuha" didn't make the cut. For me, together with "the Trinity", they make the "The Magic Five" of 4 star characters in Genshin.
I NEEEDDDDD Raiden!!! Electro is the only element I don’t have a 5* for and she would make spiral abyss so much easier. I hope she has a rerun too but I also want Focalors for my archon collection 🙈
Raiden Shogun main here. She’s incredibly fun to use and has a really weird hybrid battery support/DPS kit that I adore using. Her Electro application is also really strong and versatile with her skill, though it doesn’t work against shielded enemies like abyss mages. Far from a must-pull, but very fun and very strong.
Great list. I agree that supports and off-field characters are the best in the game because that fit teams, instead you needing to fit a team around them. Your list captures that quite well. I agree with all your picks. I would add that 1) Sucrose is the 4* Kazuha, and 2) Fischl is the consolation prize for Raiden Shogun. I would take 3) Kokomi over Yelan, since you already have Xingqiu.
I'd also want to add Fischl and Sucrose as 4stars that are worth getting an honorable mention as must-pulls. Fischl opens up Aggrevate teams to crazy heights, and Sucrose is comparable to Kazuha in power (better than him in Taser, in Dendro related teams because of EM buff, and in situations where you need Guoba Swirl; Kazuha does better in Freeze and Mono-element teams). Those people who aren't using her are really missing out. I'd argue the most important 4stars in order are Bennett, Xingqiu, Sucrose, Xiangling, Kuki, Fischl.
I agree with the list of characters that is a must in Genshin and I all have them. But recently I've been using Tighnari a lot. He's pretty good too. Now I'm waiting for Yelan's rerun T w T
Pulling Raiden made my playthrough a ton easier. Then Nahida made it even more so. Top it with Kazuha, now that's a breeze. Only gets better when I pulled Kokomi. Going for Zhongli next, as I want all the Archons first, so will have to skip Yelan this time around.
Another recommendation I personally prefer over Zhongli is Kokomi. She won't ruin any of your elemental reactions as she's Hydro and is much better and more versatile in basically every team except Wanderer Hypercarry and Hu Tao Double Hydro. But if you're rly struggling with surviving and not damage in the abyss then I definitely recommend getting both of them. And you also rly want 5 star dps's the as 4 star ones aren't that good. My personal recommendations are AlHaitham, Ayaka and Bu Tao(if you have Xingqiu or Yelan. Best if both)
@@angel-zj8kp Really valuable if you have dps units that doesn't like to get interrupted, like Yoimiya, Wanderer, Hu Tao, etc. Of course there's alternative shielders but none can match the sense of comfort and safety that Zhongli's shield provides.
i recently got Raiden as a new player (just unlocked inazuma) BUT SHE IMPROVED MY TEAM A TON.. i didn't had any good electro units so her addition with xinqiu and xiangling is GOOOOD .. i am now hoping to get nahida and bennet
I just missed Kazuha because I was playing TOTK for like a month or two and didn’t have enough primos. I wanted Yanfei so bad, but even after spending all my earned primos, I just kept getting duplicates of the other 4 stars I already had. Anyway with the new region release and the level maps making it easier to explore I have like 95 fates. I’ve had Yelan since my first big banner in the beginning of the year and so she’s on almost every team I make. Highly recommend. Now I’m just waiting for Zhongli. I really hope they run Kazuha again. But I’m also really interested in Neuveillte. Edit: My main team is usually Dendro Traveler, Yelan, Kuki, and either Bennett or now Wanderer. (All lvl 90 now cept for wanderer at 80.)
Why do people still use usage rates for abyss to prove a point about a characters strength when the values are highly biased and skewed towards limited and newly released characters?
@@_dakithey are both flexible characters since they are hydro but it depends if you need more dps or healing and what teams you want to try out. Yelan is my first five star and i never regretted it. Her skill is great for exploration and very satisfying to use. Double hydro hyperbloom makes the game way easier as a ftp.
Finally, I have all these characters now after pulling Kazuha this rerun. Now I'll go for wanderer for exploration since he is the best in that department
Something to note: Bennett, Xingqiu and Xiangling are the most mentioned 4-stars, but Sucrose and Fischl are also 2 incredible characters that less experienced players almost always fail to mention. You might say that Sucrose is just worse Kazuha, but her value doesnt suddenly take a back seat because of Kazuha’s existence. She’s still one of the strongest characters. Edit: Zhongli is a good unit for new players, but he becomes less useful as you get better at the game. Pull him if you like him, but you’ll want to switch him out eventually.
@@spellcheck5393 She can't group bigger enemies. I can only say her main work is to apply elements. Like she is incrdible powerfull in teams like National, Hyperbloom and Sukokomon. It is just she is insanely powerfull for me. I can easily complete abyss with those mention teams.
Sadly for Sucrose I've tried her, and even if you can gain technically + 250 EM with her, It requires so much effort compared to Kazuha, in the Abyss, you'll actually end up losing DPS cuz of the complexity compared to Kazuha.
I used to regret pulling for kazuha back in 2.7 because i wanted a hu tao when i was new to the game, but afterwards knowing what he is capable of, i regret that i regret pulling for him lol
5 star characters that people need to have: -Nahida (Many variations for damage, collecting item and she need more ❤ as should be) -Kazuha (great anemo character for great amount of enemies) -Yelan (because she is strong bow character, and people also need bow character because when we fighting boss that literally dodge wherenever we come close to them, good for explore) -Zhongli (for shield) -Raiden or Hutao (for strong polearm character to do one big shot KO to opponent) Thats it.
9:19 this is exactly what I tell my friends. Imagine a husbando and/or waifu you can actually use and have fun because he/she is strong. Additionally, having strong teams are good because you can beat the spiral abyss. The more consistent you are 36 star-ing spiral abyss, the more primogems you get. The more primogems you get, the more you can pull for your waifus and/or husbandos. It's a win-win.
In my case I don't pull for meta or whatever but for the character that I like and the ones with the best playstyle for me (note how I only have one 1 bow character 5 star, on 17 including the traveler, and it's Venti because I like him and he is an archon) like everything but bow or claymore (too slow for me). So indeed I got Zhongli because I wanted a strong shield and I'm shit at dodging but I got all the others on the list of must have except Raiden (because when her banner is here I have other priorities or I don't have enough primo) or Yelan because I like them, not because they are strong.
Every archon reruns once per version update and if there is a new archon their first rerun will be 4 updates after their first ever banner. For example raiden came out in 2.1 her first rerun was in 2.5 same goes with the other archons
The only two characters that I think are close to being a must pull in this game are Nahida and Kazuha. Nahida will make any Dendro, Electro, Pyro and Hydro team a lot stronger. Kazuha will make any Electro, Pyro, Hydro and Cryo team a lot stronger. Once you have these two characters it doesn't matter who you use as your other characters because Nahida and Kazuha will buff them up and make them as good as any other unit in the game. I wouldn't even consider Yelan, Zhongli, and Raiden a must pull because these characters can be easily replaced by other 5 or 4 stars. Yelan can be replaced with xingqui, Raiden can be replaced with fischl, and zhongli can be replaced with any shielder. Even Kazuha can be replaced with sucrose but she only has an elemental mastery buff so she sometimes is better or worse than kazuha depending on the team.
Dendro team will probably be good at one side or both sides of the abyss so you can run Nahida who is essentially Kazuha for dendro teams on one half & a Kazuha team on second half, it's like having two kazuhas lmao.
I really liked your video. I noticed that on gatcha games, there is no room for "what you like", but only for what you can use to farm free currency, as a F2P, of course. I've been playing the game on this "I'll build what I like, nothing more" but it's not enough to full star abyss; most characters I like have no synergies, since most of them are anemo boys and a mono anemo team have no place is this game. I love the doggy general, mas he only works with the unit I hate most, Itto. I decided to surrender to a bit of the meta and boy... It's a whole different game, unfortunatly. And it's way fun to see things explode with zero effort. It's horrible to farm dominions where you take about 5min each run, on 170+ ping, trying to get at least decent artifacts on F2P teams with only waifus or husbandos that have zero synergy. I didn't make this mistake on Honkai Star Rail. I'm getting at least one copy of all 5* and building teams with only 5*. In Genshin they are already realeasing 5* that will replace the old OP 4*, like Yelan on Xinquiu. Even Benett is not a MUST anymore. Sad is life.
I also also like anemo boys and i have pulled all of them (got kazuha recently) and i also agree that its hard when ur fav characters have no synergies. But i think u should pull for the characters u like because i got ganyu for the meta and i don't even use her now.
how yelan did powercrept xq? He gives some heal and dmg reduction even his hydro application is better than her. She give mobility and dmg buff but the 50% dmg buff will not last for like 1 second since the dmg get higher every second u will get slightly dmg increases for your main dmg dealer plus it doesnt buff hyberbloom, bloom and burgeon
came back after 1 year break from the game, only characters im missing are Nahida and Yelan, so i guess i did well last time i played, hope they get reruns soon
@@V0-Data yea that I did see, hoping to get her and then save up for Nahida after, but idk Fontaine might be too tempting, definitely want the hydro archon too
I got all the characters on his list except Yelan. Now just need time and effort to build them somewhat properly. BTW: The smiles with teeth in the thumbnail kind of creeped me out.
Agree 100% of what you said, i would also mention Fischl and Beidou. These two are powerhouses with stupidly high scallings. Overall, there is nothing else, good video.
I would say for 4*: Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett, Fischl and maybe Sucrose. 5*: support/dmg: Kazuha, Yelan, Nahida comfort: Kokomi/Zhongli/Baizhu Play dps easy mode: Raiden/Alhaitham (Raiden it's a support... but to use her "battery" mode she have to take a lot of time on-field, like other dps characters)
@@jiroo.0 Well I have a rlly good Childe and Xiangling built and I like him a lot and he carrys almost every AOE side in abyss since 1.3, I recommend. I don't have Raiden, but I do the abyss for my friend that have both, but my friend have character with a lot less invested artifacts than me. I feel that Childe it's better with a better artifacts, but at low investment I fell that Raiden National was better, and it's a lot easier to use. My complain it's Overload can be annoying sometimes and the straightforward gameplay that Raiden have can make bored of her faster, but at the same time you might not like having to control how long the Childe's skill is active. One bonus it's that the Childe variation can free your Xingqiu/Yelan for other teams. While waiting for their rerun I recommend the National version with Sucrose in place of Raiden for your second team, it's a great team and easy to use.
@@jiroo.0 Seems fair, good lucky with your pulls ^^. If possible 'll try pull for Raiden in Fontaine too, I already tired of using Fischl with my Yae Aggravate team, the variation with Yae - Raiden - Baizhu - Kazuha seems lot more fun to play. But the Hydro archon, Nilou, and Arlecchino are my priority.
Zhongli is a really good pick in the early phase but as you go on, there will be a need of good healers.. I really wanted kokomi because hydro is a really flexible element unlike geo. But as an f2p and casual player i need to save for characters that i like. Got furina now saving for natlan's archon..
These same characters I have. Nahida, Yelan, and Kazuha, the only character I have that is very niche is Nilou but for Fontaine I’m hoping for Raiden’s rerun to kick Focalor’s butt
Great video! Meta stuff isn't for me I really just pull whoever I like and that's that. Right now I run Yae Miko as off field main DPS Wanderer as an on field sub DPS Baizhu as a healer / Dendro reaction buffer Mona (soon to be Furina) as a sub-sub dps just bc it's fun! Not conventional but it works for me. I have C3 xingqui and a C1 Bennett i've never levelled because they bore me. It's also worth noting I don't do Abyss nor do I ever plan too. Once I have Furina I doubt i'll be pulling any new characters and just getting my current team their cons. If you're wanting to complete Abyss, you wanna follow Meta 100% ❤️
I disagree with your assessment on Kuki Vis à Vis Xiangling. Kuki is better for beginners exactly because dendro-core reactios only utilize EM, while national teams wants ER, EM, and Crit. Kuki hyperbloom with some make-shift EM artifacts from random sets is far more adequate than Xiangling with that same level of investment. Furthermore, Kuki reaches her true potential at c2 already instead of Xiangling c4. She is also a healer, which beginners will appreciate esecially.
It's actually easier for begginers to build Xiangling than Kuki. Xiangling can settle with Atk% on Circlet and Goblet, as long as she has enough ER from Sands and substats. While Kuki need EM on Sands, Goblet, and Circlet which is a lot harder to farm.
I got the 5 stars units S+ by pure luck 😭 nahida was a 50/50 win (my only 50/50 I won) and kazhua was a really really early bc I lost 50/50 on is banner but then 6 wishs later got him
Just pointing out that we are currently in Sumeru and thus Abyss is design for Nahida, just like how it was for other archons in other region. We are leaving Sumeru now. Get Kazuha first, Archon reruns are quite often so u can always get them. Get the other archons as soon as you can Zhongli >= Raiden >> Venti. Then wait for 4.0 and see what dirty tricks Mihoyo has installed.
Kazuha C2, Yelan C1, Zhongli C0 (but all skills on 10), Baizhu C0, Raiden C0. This is the core crew on my account. Will get Nahida this patch and I am done with pulling for a looong time
I pull characters base on their appearance and playstyle.. coincidentally, those that fit my preferences are zhongli, raiden, kokomi, nahida and kazuha. I got them.
As someone who runs a team with Nahida,Zhongli,Raiden,and Kazuha.Playing with them has been such absolute fun.Sometimes i like to switch kazuha out for Xingqiu,just for the fun of it.Debating if i should get yelan or not tbh
I finally decided to pull on kazuha's banner not to get him (I don't even have him) but to get one constellation of xiangling to get her to C4. I have 90k primos saved for focalors and C2 nahida
I remember the first characters I got on my account was xingqiu and bennett 💀 also xinyan but we dont talk about it I was so mad cz i thought those 2 were bad lol
One of the mistakes I made was pulling only for supports. Apart from Yelan, whom I consider a sub-dps, the other 5-star limited characters I have are Nahida, Kokomi, Furina. I can't really do any big damage with them and I don't have a 5 star main dps. I'm using Yanfei rn (AR 50 with enough exp to be AR 55)
Supports alone can deal lots of damage if you build them right. And you were absolutely right pulling for supports at first, a main dps without supports is a bread without butter
Definitely true about supports But this solidifies my akining Archons to Honkai 3rd's Herrschers in how they shape the meta when they come out. But I have to ask what endgame is there other than Abyss?
While meta, I kinda dislike Yelan. She was my first ever limited banner character, and she's really strong. So strong, that she blows any other character that I tried building. She didn't need a main dps to support, because all other units I had were 4*s that dealt nowhere near her damage. I kinda wish I pulled for xiao instead, I feel gimped whenever I play anyone that's not yelan.
Id add ganyu. In my opinion she should be m,entioned first in each video of this kind. She was irreplaceable in many situations, mostly events and I have no idea how ppl were doing it without her
Agreed. Although I'm admittedly a little biased because I'm a Ganyu main on a couple of my teams. She's my ranged character for exploration as well. She's just an absolutely terrifying sniper from a long way away, and kills multiple enemies with one well placed shot.
bruh in the early days when i got ganyu i didnt really like her playstyle and had her benched for 6 months, i cleared everything pretty easily and after i finally invested in her Nothing changed. People do pretty fine without her . The ugly truth is that she is way too replaceable and also can you tell a single scenario where she felt irreplaceable.
I didnt say it was hard without her to clear out the content. I said she was very useful in some situations like the osial event. And no, it wasn impossible without her, it was just much easier
Not mentioning sucrose and fischl is a CRIME in the 4 star portion. I never understood why people would say the strongest 4 stars are from 1.0 and not mention some of the strongest 4 stars who are also part of 1.0
I got every one on the list even the ones you didn't mention But nahida.,... MY CYNO need the perfect team Baizou and furina and NAHIDA , I NEED THEM And staff of scarlet sand .... Yes
@@98-carlmarkmarak22 Fischl used to be op as a funneller, "Turbo Fischl" they called her but with Favonius weapons and same-element funnellers, she became less of a must-build than Kuki whose skill is more electro-application consistent. Also Xiangling is the best off-field pyro character, so building her early would enable national comps. And healer-main dps Barbara is the most popular early beginner carries surprisingly enough
When building I also recommend focusing on Levelling/Ascending>Talents>Artifacts, since world levels are very restrictive and electro cube could possibly be hard; I agree that building them all together is healthy for beginners But when we're referencing beginners who haven't swiped cards, and Barbara who's the most likely one to carry them; it's very confusing and possibly unrecommended
I bought a zhongli raiden reroll account for like 6 bucks and then roll for kazuha and oh boi, after 1 to 2 months of playing the game, i soloed abyss floor 10-11 with kazuha and 3 other random elements to swirl. The other side i used raiden and zhongli to delete everything
Yeah so I originally only wanted to maybe get kazuha to give sucrose a bit of a rest but like... I got him (somehow) and geez does it make a difference. My characters do so much more damage now wtf. What is this sorcery?
ik this is ur personal opinion on which chars are a must pull, but in reality, no one is a must pull also not mentioning sucrose is a crime, edit: oh u did, but u still disrespected her like no one ever ALSO usage rate is a useless metric to see which character is better than the other or if the character is any good etc etc. also zhongli is a solid B tier character
there absolutely are must pulls if you want to get the primos and 36 star abyss. there are characters that will objectively prevent you from getting 36 stars if you bring them, especially in the current abyss. i've seen some whales struggle in the current abyss. sucrose is extremely hard to use, and while she can beat out kazuha in some situations when she's at c6 and kazuha is at c0, but she has some issues which greatly contribute to kazuha being picked over her. if saying factual information is "disrespect" then maybe its ok to be disrespectful. you shouldn't lie to people about the characteristics of a character, especially in a gacha game. also you shouldn't just repeat other content creators talking points out of context. yes how a lot of people use usage rates is wrong, but that doesn't make the information totally useless. it just depends on how and what for you use them. in the video, he used them in two specific cases. the first was for kuki and actually saying despite being high on usage rates, you might not want to focus on her early on. actively going against information presented in usage rates isn't saying usage rates are good or what you should aim for, its pointing out to not follow it. second was nahida's which because of the near 100% usage, different information can be gleamed. since usage rates are only submitted by dedicated players who have cleared and 36 star the spiral abyss, this means that if your goal is to clear and 36 star the spiral abyss, nahida is quite literally the character most dedicate people do it with, the fact that she's so close to 100% puts her in her own league apart from the rest of the list, and is more useful information then any other character placements on the list. when people doing one single thing (clearing abyss) and they all do the exact same thing to clear it... maybe there's a reason. also who cares the strength of zhongli. people bring him because his shield lets people ignore the mechanics on annoying floors. i've personally been bringing a shielder on whichever side of the abyss puts those new beast enemys. its because their moves are so chaotic and so deadly that one miss dodge could be a run ender. you say he's a B tier, but i've 36 star the last 3 abyss cycles, with him on my team. so telling people he's bad and won't help them clear abyss is insane. in the current abyss, one those beast floors, he's S tier. in fact i think the best pert about this video is, i've used nearly every character mentioned on my abyss clears recently. the characters mentioned in this video really are the abyss clearers if you don't have the newest super invested flashy main dps meta team. you can slot your favorite characters into the team with them (with some exceptions like dehya) and you will be able to clear the current abyss.
@@xXzman9000Xx no, literally no one is a must pull, u can literally go and search some players 36 star with only 4 star characters etc. u just need to know how to play and team building sucrose is NOT insanely hard to play, im sorry but thats just a skill issue, turn on ur brain and try again, the onlyissue she has is that shes vulnurable and thats it, and it doesnt matter if u 36 starred abyss with zhongli, people can do it with eula, dehya, xinyan, etc. and again, no one is a must pull, u can 36 star with the characters that are not meta at all, also it seems like u dknt know what MUST means
@@blastzd so first, yeah, some people have done it with only 4 stars sure, but not the free 4 stars. you aren't clearing abyss with literally any random 4 star. this implies you need some semblance of a team which requires certain characters.... meaning you kinda have to pull some of these characters, dare i call that "must pull" i also never said sucrose is impossible to play, just harder then kazuha. kazuha is brain dead play and works, sucrose is no where near brain dead gameplay, as you implied "a skill issue" or so you assumed... literally my point is that she takes more effort to get the same results. ok then lets see you 36 star the current abyss with dehya, barbara, noelle, and venti on second half of abyss 12 since any characters can do it. that team can in theory deal with all the element shields, so shouldn't be a problem since literally any character can do it since there is literally no required characters right???
@@blastzd characters like bennett, yelan and nahida provide tons of utility, open up a lot of team comps (and potentially make some of your already existing ones more powerful and easier to use) and just preform better than off meta picks at a similar level of investment that they do kinda become must-pulls. Sure, you can clear abyss with any character provided you have the right team comp and good investment, but some characters like the ones stated above and in the video are both very widely used will just make your abyss clearing more comfortable, making your life less miserable. about sucrose, tbh she's just very good at driving in like national and taser, however she feels insanely clunky as a quickswap/semi-quickswap vv + em support, kazuha easily replaces her in those teams as he is that much more fun to play, and has reliable grouping. is she functional in those teams? yes, but is kazuha going to be major QoL over her? 100% (ofc there will be some cases where the team benefits more from the em buff than the elemental% but I don't think that's very common as they generally benefit from either)
Me who got sucrose and xingqiu both in first 10 pull only to not use them for a good 5 levels lol. Then when i actually used them did id find out how cacked they were. Made my low ar game sm easier
Nice video man! I just started this game 2 days ago. Im super newbie but used to play all kind off MMORPG'S . I just fiund out that there is banner to pull character from. Yes that fresh i am 😅. That leads me to my question. Its an Event right now, And I got 12 houers to pick one. Witch one would you choose ? All advice are most welcomed! For sure a thumbs up and Subscribed! Great video!
Zhongli's elemental (and physical) shred from his shields shouldn't be underestimated. You just have to pair him with a hypercarry and some sub-dps's and you are good to go.
I dont have both kokomi and zhongli I was thinking to pull for zhongli but now iam confused 😕.....one of my main team is hyperbloom and i was thinking to put zhongli in it for shield.....should i go for koko instead ?
Someone might not agree, but after Nahida must pull Yae Miko, they both together can clear abyss without other characters. Also, in the open world, Yae Miko can hit anything. And no, I'm almost never use Zhongli because I'm able to dodge everything
I started in 1.6 at klee banner. I got kazuha on first 10 pull of my acc. I played till 2.2 but stopped playing. Till 4.1 5 days ago. So I lost a loot of contents. I have kazuha, raiden, ayaka,( all from first banner), hutao. My last 5 star.
Man, why are your thumb nails always so supremely cursed? Jesus, they are terrible. I love them.
My dumbass thought u were talking about his thumb nails as in his hand
Lmao it’s literally the reason I clicked, because it was so absurd and didn’t look borinf. Job well done I think.
@@Sickle_. 💀
I subscribed because of it😂😂😅
If youve ever played ddlc i always thought raiden looked like yuri… and this thumbnail confirmed it
Wanderer may not really be a must pull in terms of meta, but he is so fun to play and now to me, exploring the map without him in my party just feels weird.
He's getting pulled this time around. I mean pulling for Eula too, but physical carries aren't really a priority for me.
That and I can unironically yell "GET TO DA CHOPPA" whenever I switch to ol Hat Boy
wanderer is a must in any adventure team breaking new ground in newly realeased areas,
cant wait to explore Fontaine with Kirara-Yelan c1 (second E for speed)-Wanderer and zhongli for shield and ores
oh and when farming ore in chasm he is invaluable too, theres a few places were he makes life faster
@@thomasolsen4094 sadly with Ousia/Pneuma thing coming in we have to reserve 1/2 slot to have a better time exploring. it would be less of an issue if the shitty duration of opening up team set up menu is gone but oh well
Wandy is a good pull for those that like him. He can eat up any resources and scales really well with investment. Super flexible team slots compared to other main carry units. Great for exploration and has little weaknesses except abyss aoe and Anemo immune enemies. He’s a great all-rounder who will reward investment at endgame too.
As a diehard Kazuha Main, yes. GET HIM. He will genuinely make ANY content in the game easier. I was able to reach floor 4:3 of Spiral Abyss because of Kazuha. I was able to defeat Childe because of Kazuha. He’s my baby I love him so much.
i lost the 50/50 bro 😭 I died inside but im getting zhongli because hes coming in phase 2 of 4.0
@mateshprince1535 praying that u get him
@@mateshprince1535Loll the opposite happened to me. I lost the 50/50 for Zhongli so I used my guaranteed on Kazuha’s first banner. 100000000% worth it 🤌
So sad I returned to genshin 4 days after his banner ended and i didn't know 😭
I got him first around ar 20. The game became so much easier, cannot survive now without him
From the perspective of a day one player I think this list is pretty accurate for which characters have the most general use. Only things I feel are important to stress is that Yelan isn't someone I would prioritize super highly starting out as she is really only a sidegrade to Xingqui, and building a diverse roster early is more valuable in my opinion. I also don't rate Shogun very highly, but that I'll admit is more personal bias. I feel like you could also make an argument for Baizhu and Kokomi being great supports in a similar role to Zhongli, and they are both highly versatile elemental applicator durability supports.
Xingque 'C0?
Since you brought up comfort being the reason you recommended Zhongli, I would l also like to put forward another character for similar reasons: Kokomi. Yes, she is a Hydro healer not unlike Barbara, who you can get for free, but Kokomi provides an added layer of versatility thanks to her consistent off-field Hydro application along with her healing. This lets her be a dependable unit in a variety of team compositions, since Hydro is integral for many elemental reactions. While she will be outmatched in terms of raw damage because of her inability to crit, casual players can appreciate how she widens the margin for error for your entire team.
Kokomi is an actual goddess in bloom teams and especially nilou bloom. Her burst is the perfect ability for driving nilous cores
@@avej99 Kokomi also has interupt resist while she is in her burst mode. That is her main advantage as it means she doesnt need a shield to resist interupt, making dendro team comps easier and more comfortable with her on them. Also, her extra clam damage can actually make her do similar aoe damage as other hydro mains at c0
And Kokomi is the best character in the game. Btw, this is just my opinion
Plus Baizhu, for the same reason as Kokomi
@@tracybekker7614thats not a opinion Thing lol
I prefer to pull for characters I like the playstyle of, but a different mindset to the game will definitely make me better.
Fishcl is most definitely the 4th musketeer after 3.0 but if you're not convinced then wait for 4.0, she is actually gonna turn into a second electro archon.
*coughs : new artifact set,
Bro, why do Fishcl and Xiangling get buffs every update lmao.
The Xiao mains just malding that they don’t have a good f2p polearm, meanwhile Oppa.
And I was thinking, hmm new artifact set is good, but who uses elemental skill and sub dps? Damn fischl of course.
Also, she was always good before dendro.
One of her best features is energy gain, she was electro archon before electro archon.
i just got fischl but i just cant use bows lol, genshin is my first pc game so bow characters are a nightmare
@@vincikeeper1581 And if it's correct, her A4 which is her broken part of her kit, is considered as Elemental Skill Dmg.
@@danny8747 don't worry Fischl's gameplay is mostly being a sub dps by summoning elemental skill and sometimes burst so it's fine
My top 3 for different reasons would happen to be Wanderer for mobility, Zhongli for survivability, and Kazuha for pure elemental support.
i'm surprised that Fischl aka "budget Raiden" and Sucrose aka "4 star Kazuha" didn't make the cut. For me, together with "the Trinity", they make the "The Magic Five" of 4 star characters in Genshin.
The paganity
Kazuha is a life saver, i've been using Razor as my main before but everything changed after i got Kazuha.
I NEEEDDDDD Raiden!!! Electro is the only element I don’t have a 5* for and she would make spiral abyss so much easier. I hope she has a rerun too but I also want Focalors for my archon collection 🙈
Raiden Shogun main here. She’s incredibly fun to use and has a really weird hybrid battery support/DPS kit that I adore using. Her Electro application is also really strong and versatile with her skill, though it doesn’t work against shielded enemies like abyss mages. Far from a must-pull, but very fun and very strong.
Whom should I pull for...I need dps character btw..yelan or raiden? C0 cause I am f2p
@@atulverma1617Both are good ngl, pick which you want the most (playstyle, aesthetic, personality wise). Can never go wrong whoever you choose
@@atulverma1617 Yelan is more dps centered
Yelan tbh, Yelan, Nahida and Kazuha are the best@@atulverma1617
Is raiden good for c0? I only have 20k pg so it's literally impossible to get c2
Great list. I agree that supports and off-field characters are the best in the game because that fit teams, instead you needing to fit a team around them. Your list captures that quite well. I agree with all your picks. I would add that 1) Sucrose is the 4* Kazuha, and 2) Fischl is the consolation prize for Raiden Shogun. I would take 3) Kokomi over Yelan, since you already have Xingqiu.
I'd also want to add Fischl and Sucrose as 4stars that are worth getting an honorable mention as must-pulls. Fischl opens up Aggrevate teams to crazy heights, and Sucrose is comparable to Kazuha in power (better than him in Taser, in Dendro related teams because of EM buff, and in situations where you need Guoba Swirl; Kazuha does better in Freeze and Mono-element teams). Those people who aren't using her are really missing out.
I'd argue the most important 4stars in order are Bennett, Xingqiu, Sucrose, Xiangling, Kuki, Fischl.
I would add beidou too :D
I agree with the list of characters that is a must in Genshin and I all have them. But recently I've been using Tighnari a lot. He's pretty good too. Now I'm waiting for Yelan's rerun T w T
Pulling Raiden made my playthrough a ton easier. Then Nahida made it even more so. Top it with Kazuha, now that's a breeze. Only gets better when I pulled Kokomi. Going for Zhongli next, as I want all the Archons first, so will have to skip Yelan this time around.
Wutt you have almost everyone m jelous😅
dude got all the game breaking chars :V
Another recommendation I personally prefer over Zhongli is Kokomi. She won't ruin any of your elemental reactions as she's Hydro and is much better and more versatile in basically every team except Wanderer Hypercarry and Hu Tao Double Hydro. But if you're rly struggling with surviving and not damage in the abyss then I definitely recommend getting both of them.
And you also rly want 5 star dps's the as 4 star ones aren't that good.
My personal recommendations are AlHaitham, Ayaka and Bu Tao(if you have Xingqiu or Yelan. Best if both)
I have kokomi, do you think I should get zhongli on the next rerun?
@@angel-zj8kp If you have problems with survival and not time.
Hutao team doesn't survive without zhongli 😅 Her high risk high DMG style gameplay demands a super strong shield to protect the glass cannon she is.
@@angel-zj8kp Really valuable if you have dps units that doesn't like to get interrupted, like Yoimiya, Wanderer, Hu Tao, etc. Of course there's alternative shielders but none can match the sense of comfort and safety that Zhongli's shield provides.
@@angel-zj8kpno I have him. He is useless in abyss.
He takes up 1 space so it's difficult to do hyperbloom as well
i recently got Raiden as a new player (just unlocked inazuma) BUT SHE IMPROVED MY TEAM A TON.. i didn't had any good electro units so her addition with xinqiu and xiangling is GOOOOD .. i am now hoping to get nahida and bennet
I definetly have seen my zhongli useage for being the best shielder in the game, can't wait to see how I can best utilize furina in my team comps
I just missed Kazuha because I was playing TOTK for like a month or two and didn’t have enough primos. I wanted Yanfei so bad, but even after spending all my earned primos, I just kept getting duplicates of the other 4 stars I already had. Anyway with the new region release and the level maps making it easier to explore I have like 95 fates.
I’ve had Yelan since my first big banner in the beginning of the year and so she’s on almost every team I make. Highly recommend.
Now I’m just waiting for Zhongli. I really hope they run Kazuha again. But I’m also really interested in Neuveillte.
Edit: My main team is usually Dendro Traveler, Yelan, Kuki, and either Bennett or now Wanderer. (All lvl 90 now cept for wanderer at 80.)
Why do people still use usage rates for abyss to prove a point about a characters strength when the values are highly biased and skewed towards limited and newly released characters?
exactly 😅😅 but hey can I ask,,, should I pull for yelan or kokomi? I’m so torn since I’m only f2p
@@_dakithey are both flexible characters since they are hydro but it depends if you need more dps or healing and what teams you want to try out. Yelan is my first five star and i never regretted it. Her skill is great for exploration and very satisfying to use. Double hydro hyperbloom makes the game way easier as a ftp.
Because it is
Finally, I have all these characters now after pulling Kazuha this rerun. Now I'll go for wanderer for exploration since he is the best in that department
He talks shit full time though🤣
Something to note: Bennett, Xingqiu and Xiangling are the most mentioned 4-stars, but Sucrose and Fischl are also 2 incredible characters that less experienced players almost always fail to mention. You might say that Sucrose is just worse Kazuha, but her value doesnt suddenly take a back seat because of Kazuha’s existence. She’s still one of the strongest characters.
Edit: Zhongli is a good unit for new players, but he becomes less useful as you get better at the game. Pull him if you like him, but you’ll want to switch him out eventually.
Sucrose idk I find hr useless. I built her to l90 and gave all artifact's. She doesn't group :(
@@spellcheck5393 She can't group bigger enemies. I can only say her main work is to apply elements. Like she is incrdible powerfull in teams like National, Hyperbloom and Sukokomon. It is just she is insanely powerfull for me. I can easily complete abyss with those mention teams.
Sadly for Sucrose I've tried her, and even if you can gain technically + 250 EM with her, It requires so much effort
compared to Kazuha, in the Abyss, you'll actually end up losing DPS cuz of the complexity compared to Kazuha.
@@SaikeeKonosukeLuc Are you saying you running Sucrose just with 250 EM. Is this even a number ?? You need atleast 700 EM for her. Mine at 800
@@SkyCaf508 They're saying she provides at 250 EM boost to your team, not that you need 250 EM for her.
I used to regret pulling for kazuha back in 2.7 because i wanted a hu tao when i was new to the game, but afterwards knowing what he is capable of, i regret that i regret pulling for him lol
Same and now I use him more than hu tao
5 star characters that people need to have:
-Nahida (Many variations for damage, collecting item and she need more ❤ as should be)
-Kazuha (great anemo character for great amount of enemies)
-Yelan (because she is strong bow character, and people also need bow character because when we fighting boss that literally dodge wherenever we come close to them, good for explore)
-Zhongli (for shield)
-Raiden or Hutao (for strong polearm character to do one big shot KO to opponent)
Thats it.
9:19 this is exactly what I tell my friends. Imagine a husbando and/or waifu you can actually use and have fun because he/she is strong.
Additionally, having strong teams are good because you can beat the spiral abyss. The more consistent you are 36 star-ing spiral abyss, the more primogems you get. The more primogems you get, the more you can pull for your waifus and/or husbandos. It's a win-win.
In my case I don't pull for meta or whatever but for the character that I like and the ones with the best playstyle for me (note how I only have one 1 bow character 5 star, on 17 including the traveler, and it's Venti because I like him and he is an archon) like everything but bow or claymore (too slow for me). So indeed I got Zhongli because I wanted a strong shield and I'm shit at dodging but I got all the others on the list of must have except Raiden (because when her banner is here I have other priorities or I don't have enough primo) or Yelan because I like them, not because they are strong.
That first track you used, In The Groove, took me right out of the video for a while cause I had to go find that banger before moving on
Every archon reruns once per version update and if there is a new archon their first rerun will be 4 updates after their first ever banner. For example raiden came out in 2.1 her first rerun was in 2.5 same goes with the other archons
The only two characters that I think are close to being a must pull in this game are Nahida and Kazuha. Nahida will make any Dendro, Electro, Pyro and Hydro team a lot stronger. Kazuha will make any Electro, Pyro, Hydro and Cryo team a lot stronger. Once you have these two characters it doesn't matter who you use as your other characters because Nahida and Kazuha will buff them up and make them as good as any other unit in the game. I wouldn't even consider Yelan, Zhongli, and Raiden a must pull because these characters can be easily replaced by other 5 or 4 stars. Yelan can be replaced with xingqui, Raiden can be replaced with fischl, and zhongli can be replaced with any shielder. Even Kazuha can be replaced with sucrose but she only has an elemental mastery buff so she sometimes is better or worse than kazuha depending on the team.
True nahida brings dendro teams to another level
Dendro team will probably be good at one side or both sides of the abyss so you can run Nahida who is essentially Kazuha for dendro teams on one half & a Kazuha team on second half, it's like having two kazuhas lmao.
I really liked your video.
I noticed that on gatcha games, there is no room for "what you like", but only for what you can use to farm free currency, as a F2P, of course. I've been playing the game on this "I'll build what I like, nothing more" but it's not enough to full star abyss; most characters I like have no synergies, since most of them are anemo boys and a mono anemo team have no place is this game. I love the doggy general, mas he only works with the unit I hate most, Itto.
I decided to surrender to a bit of the meta and boy... It's a whole different game, unfortunatly. And it's way fun to see things explode with zero effort. It's horrible to farm dominions where you take about 5min each run, on 170+ ping, trying to get at least decent artifacts on F2P teams with only waifus or husbandos that have zero synergy.
I didn't make this mistake on Honkai Star Rail. I'm getting at least one copy of all 5* and building teams with only 5*. In Genshin they are already realeasing 5* that will replace the old OP 4*, like Yelan on Xinquiu. Even Benett is not a MUST anymore.
Sad is life.
I also also like anemo boys and i have pulled all of them (got kazuha recently) and i also agree that its hard when ur fav characters have no synergies. But i think u should pull for the characters u like because i got ganyu for the meta and i don't even use her now.
how yelan did powercrept xq? He gives some heal and dmg reduction even his hydro application is better than her. She give mobility and dmg buff but the 50% dmg buff will not last for like 1 second since the dmg get higher every second u will get slightly dmg increases for your main dmg dealer plus it doesnt buff hyberbloom, bloom and burgeon
xinqiou is better than yelan bro
@@czarson6694 totally.
came back after 1 year break from the game, only characters im missing are Nahida and Yelan, so i guess i did well last time i played, hope they get reruns soon
nahida no clue when she coming back but yelan is expected to get a rerun on 4.0
@@V0-Data yea that I did see, hoping to get her and then save up for Nahida after, but idk Fontaine might be too tempting, definitely want the hydro archon too
Yelan's rerun is in 4.0, and Nahida's is also expected to come soon, maybe in 4.4 or later on
200 hours doesn't feel right if you've played since 2021
I thought so too. I'm a day one player so of course I have more but I'm so far away from 200 it's unbelievable
@@luca__-tf6tn I think I've played 100+ hours in one of the months. That's why even tho I started in January of 2023 I have far more than 200 hours
I got all the characters on his list except Yelan. Now just need time and effort to build them somewhat properly.
BTW: The smiles with teeth in the thumbnail kind of creeped me out.
Agree 100% of what you said, i would also mention Fischl and Beidou. These two are powerhouses with stupidly high scallings. Overall, there is nothing else, good video.
I would say for
4*: Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett, Fischl and maybe Sucrose.
5*:
support/dmg: Kazuha, Yelan, Nahida
comfort: Kokomi/Zhongli/Baizhu
Play dps easy mode: Raiden/Alhaitham (Raiden it's a support... but to use her "battery" mode she have to take a lot of time on-field, like other dps characters)
is raiden c0 better than or as good as childe for national team? i need a second dps for the abyss
@@jiroo.0 Well I have a rlly good Childe and Xiangling built and I like him a lot and he carrys almost every AOE side in abyss since 1.3, I recommend.
I don't have Raiden, but I do the abyss for my friend that have both, but my friend have character with a lot less invested artifacts than me. I feel that Childe it's better with a better artifacts, but at low investment I fell that Raiden National was better, and it's a lot easier to use.
My complain it's Overload can be annoying sometimes and the straightforward gameplay that Raiden have can make bored of her faster, but at the same time you might not like having to control how long the Childe's skill is active.
One bonus it's that the Childe variation can free your Xingqiu/Yelan for other teams.
While waiting for their rerun I recommend the National version with Sucrose in place of Raiden for your second team, it's a great team and easy to use.
@@jiroo.0 but both are great C0 units and good to clear the abyss, it's more personal preference.
@@mcbx3d thanks, im gonna pull for raiden then i just dont like childe playstyle and design
@@jiroo.0 Seems fair, good lucky with your pulls ^^.
If possible 'll try pull for Raiden in Fontaine too, I already tired of using Fischl with my Yae Aggravate team, the variation with Yae - Raiden - Baizhu - Kazuha seems lot more fun to play. But the Hydro archon, Nilou, and Arlecchino are my priority.
Got everyone now waiting for raiden and Furina 😊
Zhongli is a really good pick in the early phase but as you go on, there will be a need of good healers..
I really wanted kokomi because hydro is a really flexible element unlike geo.
But as an f2p and casual player i need to save for characters that i like.
Got furina now saving for natlan's archon..
These same characters I have. Nahida, Yelan, and Kazuha, the only character I have that is very niche is Nilou but for Fontaine I’m hoping for Raiden’s rerun to kick Focalor’s butt
Great video! Meta stuff isn't for me I really just pull whoever I like and that's that.
Right now I run Yae Miko as off field main DPS
Wanderer as an on field sub DPS
Baizhu as a healer / Dendro reaction buffer
Mona (soon to be Furina) as a sub-sub dps just bc it's fun!
Not conventional but it works for me. I have C3 xingqui and a C1 Bennett i've never levelled because they bore me.
It's also worth noting I don't do Abyss nor do I ever plan too. Once I have Furina I doubt i'll be pulling any new characters and just getting my current team their cons. If you're wanting to complete Abyss, you wanna follow Meta 100% ❤️
Imo, get whatever character you like. A team eventually form
I disagree with your assessment on Kuki Vis à Vis Xiangling. Kuki is better for beginners exactly because dendro-core reactios only utilize EM, while national teams wants ER, EM, and Crit. Kuki hyperbloom with some make-shift EM artifacts from random sets is far more adequate than Xiangling with that same level of investment. Furthermore, Kuki reaches her true potential at c2 already instead of Xiangling c4. She is also a healer, which beginners will appreciate esecially.
It's actually easier for begginers to build Xiangling than Kuki. Xiangling can settle with Atk% on Circlet and Goblet, as long as she has enough ER from Sands and substats. While Kuki need EM on Sands, Goblet, and Circlet which is a lot harder to farm.
Proud kazuha owner since 1.6 , he is so usefull and also his skill is amazing for climbing mountains
I got the 5 stars units S+ by pure luck 😭 nahida was a 50/50 win (my only 50/50 I won) and kazhua was a really really early bc I lost 50/50 on is banner but then 6 wishs later got him
Just pointing out that we are currently in Sumeru and thus Abyss is design for Nahida, just like how it was for other archons in other region. We are leaving Sumeru now. Get Kazuha first, Archon reruns are quite often so u can always get them. Get the other archons as soon as you can Zhongli >= Raiden >> Venti. Then wait for 4.0 and see what dirty tricks Mihoyo has installed.
I love how they are all archons and then theres just Kazuha instead of veti
Venti is 2 drunk the wind decided to stay with Kazuha.
Kazuha C2, Yelan C1, Zhongli C0 (but all skills on 10), Baizhu C0, Raiden C0. This is the core crew on my account. Will get Nahida this patch and I am done with pulling for a looong time
I got into genshin entirely for more psychie videos
I pull characters base on their appearance and playstyle.. coincidentally, those that fit my preferences are zhongli, raiden, kokomi, nahida and kazuha. I got them.
Out of all the 5 stars I have Nahida and raiden are without a doubt my favorites
The wanderer is the god of exploration, sometimes I'd wonder how people without wanderer,venti and Kazuya enjoy exploration
As someone who runs a team with Nahida,Zhongli,Raiden,and Kazuha.Playing with them has been such absolute fun.Sometimes i like to switch kazuha out for Xingqiu,just for the fun of it.Debating if i should get yelan or not tbh
I finally decided to pull on kazuha's banner not to get him (I don't even have him) but to get one constellation of xiangling to get her to C4. I have 90k primos saved for focalors and C2 nahida
Me too so near Pity now. So hoping focalors is good
Great video ❤
I remember the first characters I got on my account was xingqiu and bennett 💀 also xinyan but we dont talk about it
I was so mad cz i thought those 2 were bad lol
Pov what u mentioned on this video's i like most yelan raiden nahida kazhua i really love them their style how they fight and their personality ❤
Poor Venti... The forgotten Archon😢
It happens; honkai's herrschers are no different as a few fell off
at least storywise he is the best :)
@@ixirionHow is he the best?
One of the mistakes I made was pulling only for supports. Apart from Yelan, whom I consider a sub-dps, the other 5-star limited characters I have are Nahida, Kokomi, Furina. I can't really do any big damage with them and I don't have a 5 star main dps. I'm using Yanfei rn (AR 50 with enough exp to be AR 55)
You just need Hyperbloom and National team to 36 star abyss bro. But next patch Raiden Shogun will show up.
Supports alone can deal lots of damage if you build them right. And you were absolutely right pulling for supports at first, a main dps without supports is a bread without butter
Definitely true about supports
But this solidifies my akining Archons to Honkai 3rd's Herrschers in how they shape the meta when they come out.
But I have to ask what endgame is there other than Abyss?
Events, exploration and side quests
there is no endgame in genshin
still no endgame after almost 3 years
literally 0
the funniest thing is that any favorite character I have in a video game is like top tier, always.
While meta, I kinda dislike Yelan. She was my first ever limited banner character, and she's really strong. So strong, that she blows any other character that I tried building. She didn't need a main dps to support, because all other units I had were 4*s that dealt nowhere near her damage.
I kinda wish I pulled for xiao instead, I feel gimped whenever I play anyone that's not yelan.
Ain't it good lol
Watching this since I’ve gotten the characters I wanted realising I have all the characters in the video already 💀
3:58 niceeee let it die track
8 months already with this game..i got all unit on your list accept zhongli...cant wait his banner to complete my team..hehe
honorable mention....kokomi
off field hydro applicator
healer on field or off field
on field driver
Id add ganyu. In my opinion she should be m,entioned first in each video of this kind. She was irreplaceable in many situations, mostly events and I have no idea how ppl were doing it without her
Agreed. Although I'm admittedly a little biased because I'm a Ganyu main on a couple of my teams. She's my ranged character for exploration as well. She's just an absolutely terrifying sniper from a long way away, and kills multiple enemies with one well placed shot.
As someone who has never used a cryo dps in abyss and has played from week one, it hasn't been very hard. Husbandos carry me every abyss.
bruh in the early days when i got ganyu i didnt really like her playstyle and had her benched for 6 months, i cleared everything pretty easily and after i finally invested in her
Nothing changed. People do pretty fine without her . The ugly truth is that she is way too replaceable and also can you tell a single scenario where she felt irreplaceable.
I didnt say it was hard without her to clear out the content. I said she was very useful in some situations like the osial event. And no, it wasn impossible without her, it was just much easier
Not mentioning sucrose and fischl is a CRIME in the 4 star portion. I never understood why people would say the strongest 4 stars are from 1.0 and not mention some of the strongest 4 stars who are also part of 1.0
I somewhat regret pulling for zhongli. Dude just makes everything in the game on easy mode 😭
have yelan and raider, the only other characters i want are nahida and kazuhiro so im praying for the upcoming banner🙏🏻
As a hardcore fate fan, i can assure that he is right. In fgo support is more important than dps.(sorry if my English is bad)
After collecting all those mentioned...i finally got my C2 Klee xD the others stay level 70
omg I can't wait to have Klee C2
I have all the characters you mentioned with c5 benett and c6 xingchu
id say its pretty valid, the only ones that u shoul defo pull
Just a note for the beginners do not depend on the video abyss when it comes to damage as most content shows the agent with their signature weapons.
I totally agree with your must pull list...
One definite adv of Kazy is tht his CC is around him. Sucrose is in front
Don't forget fishel 😢
Ngl I haven’t passed floor 12 yet and probably need to build some 4*s but I put so many materials into being a Kazuha main
I am glad that I pulled for yelan as my first 5 star
Xiangling is included while Sucrose and Fischl aren't? You talk about Rational being accessible but Sucrose National doesn't get mentioned?
No literally he mentioned the strongest 4 stars are from 1.0 but then doesn't mention some of the strongest 4 stars like what.
I got every one on the list even the ones you didn't mention
But nahida.,... MY CYNO need the perfect team
Baizou and furina and NAHIDA , I NEED THEM
And staff of scarlet sand .... Yes
Im going for Yelan :D Cuz i need a cracked Hydro character, even tho Furina is here, my primos are crying so... Ill go for yelan
For extreme beginners , If u get fischl , benett , xingqiu , sucrose , build them along with your fav character
Fischl gets benched by Kuki
Actually nvm, Fischl is a battery not an electro applicator
@@randyrandom3358 if you can get good dendro then yeah kuki is also good
@@98-carlmarkmarak22 Fischl used to be op as a funneller, "Turbo Fischl" they called her but with Favonius weapons and same-element funnellers, she became less of a must-build than Kuki whose skill is more electro-application consistent.
Also Xiangling is the best off-field pyro character, so building her early would enable national comps. And healer-main dps Barbara is the most popular early beginner carries surprisingly enough
When building I also recommend focusing on Levelling/Ascending>Talents>Artifacts, since world levels are very restrictive and electro cube could possibly be hard; I agree that building them all together is healthy for beginners
But when we're referencing beginners who haven't swiped cards, and Barbara who's the most likely one to carry them; it's very confusing and possibly unrecommended
When he names (almost) all of the characters that I have :))
Kazuha, Nahida, Bennet, Xingqui and Xangling
I got xingqiu on my first acc ever (which is the one I use currently) and recently got bennet in a random standard banner wish
You should priotize your favorite character first then the must one's like kazuha raiden and nahida
u cant really compare usage rates of 4 stars to 5 stars, since most ppl only pull for 5 stars if they really want them, but 4 stars just show up
I bought a zhongli raiden reroll account for like 6 bucks and then roll for kazuha and oh boi, after 1 to 2 months of playing the game, i soloed abyss floor 10-11 with kazuha and 3 other random elements to swirl. The other side i used raiden and zhongli to delete everything
Nice list
Yeah so I originally only wanted to maybe get kazuha to give sucrose a bit of a rest but like... I got him (somehow) and geez does it make a difference. My characters do so much more damage now wtf. What is this sorcery?
ik this is ur personal opinion on which chars are a must pull, but in reality, no one is a must pull
also not mentioning sucrose is a crime, edit: oh u did, but u still disrespected her like no one ever
ALSO usage rate is a useless metric to see which character is better than the other or if the character is any good etc etc.
also zhongli is a solid B tier character
there absolutely are must pulls if you want to get the primos and 36 star abyss. there are characters that will objectively prevent you from getting 36 stars if you bring them, especially in the current abyss. i've seen some whales struggle in the current abyss.
sucrose is extremely hard to use, and while she can beat out kazuha in some situations when she's at c6 and kazuha is at c0, but she has some issues which greatly contribute to kazuha being picked over her. if saying factual information is "disrespect" then maybe its ok to be disrespectful. you shouldn't lie to people about the characteristics of a character, especially in a gacha game.
also you shouldn't just repeat other content creators talking points out of context. yes how a lot of people use usage rates is wrong, but that doesn't make the information totally useless. it just depends on how and what for you use them. in the video, he used them in two specific cases.
the first was for kuki and actually saying despite being high on usage rates, you might not want to focus on her early on. actively going against information presented in usage rates isn't saying usage rates are good or what you should aim for, its pointing out to not follow it. second was nahida's which because of the near 100% usage, different information can be gleamed. since usage rates are only submitted by dedicated players who have cleared and 36 star the spiral abyss, this means that if your goal is to clear and 36 star the spiral abyss, nahida is quite literally the character most dedicate people do it with, the fact that she's so close to 100% puts her in her own league apart from the rest of the list, and is more useful information then any other character placements on the list. when people doing one single thing (clearing abyss) and they all do the exact same thing to clear it... maybe there's a reason.
also who cares the strength of zhongli. people bring him because his shield lets people ignore the mechanics on annoying floors. i've personally been bringing a shielder on whichever side of the abyss puts those new beast enemys. its because their moves are so chaotic and so deadly that one miss dodge could be a run ender. you say he's a B tier, but i've 36 star the last 3 abyss cycles, with him on my team. so telling people he's bad and won't help them clear abyss is insane. in the current abyss, one those beast floors, he's S tier.
in fact i think the best pert about this video is, i've used nearly every character mentioned on my abyss clears recently. the characters mentioned in this video really are the abyss clearers if you don't have the newest super invested flashy main dps meta team. you can slot your favorite characters into the team with them (with some exceptions like dehya) and you will be able to clear the current abyss.
@@xXzman9000Xx no, literally no one is a must pull, u can literally go and search some players 36 star with only 4 star characters etc. u just need to know how to play and team building
sucrose is NOT insanely hard to play, im sorry but thats just a skill issue, turn on ur brain and try again, the onlyissue she has is that shes vulnurable and thats it, and it doesnt matter if u 36 starred abyss with zhongli, people can do it with eula, dehya, xinyan, etc.
and again, no one is a must pull, u can 36 star with the characters that are not meta at all, also it seems like u dknt know what MUST means
@@xXzman9000Xx also usage rate shouldnt be used at all, just for fun, it doesnt by any means determine anything for meta and thats just how it is
@@blastzd so first, yeah, some people have done it with only 4 stars sure, but not the free 4 stars. you aren't clearing abyss with literally any random 4 star. this implies you need some semblance of a team which requires certain characters.... meaning you kinda have to pull some of these characters, dare i call that "must pull"
i also never said sucrose is impossible to play, just harder then kazuha. kazuha is brain dead play and works, sucrose is no where near brain dead gameplay, as you implied "a skill issue" or so you assumed... literally my point is that she takes more effort to get the same results.
ok then lets see you 36 star the current abyss with dehya, barbara, noelle, and venti on second half of abyss 12 since any characters can do it. that team can in theory deal with all the element shields, so shouldn't be a problem since literally any character can do it since there is literally no required characters right???
@@blastzd characters like bennett, yelan and nahida provide tons of utility, open up a lot of team comps (and potentially make some of your already existing ones more powerful and easier to use) and just preform better than off meta picks at a similar level of investment that they do kinda become must-pulls. Sure, you can clear abyss with any character provided you have the right team comp and good investment, but some characters like the ones stated above and in the video are both very widely used will just make your abyss clearing more comfortable, making your life less miserable.
about sucrose, tbh she's just very good at driving in like national and taser, however she feels insanely clunky as a quickswap/semi-quickswap vv + em support, kazuha easily replaces her in those teams as he is that much more fun to play, and has reliable grouping. is she functional in those teams? yes, but is kazuha going to be major QoL over her? 100% (ofc there will be some cases where the team benefits more from the em buff than the elemental% but I don't think that's very common as they generally benefit from either)
Me who got sucrose and xingqiu both in first 10 pull only to not use them for a good 5 levels lol. Then when i actually used them did id find out how cacked they were. Made my low ar game sm easier
Nice video man! I just started this game 2 days ago. Im super newbie but used to play all kind off MMORPG'S . I just fiund out that there is banner to pull character from. Yes that fresh i am 😅. That leads me to my question. Its an Event right now, And I got 12 houers to pick one. Witch one would you choose ? All advice are most welcomed! For sure a thumbs up and Subscribed! Great video!
Zhongli's elemental (and physical) shred from his shields shouldn't be underestimated. You just have to pair him with a hypercarry and some sub-dps's and you are good to go.
it's like 4k extra dmg if ur using vv too
Zhibgli and kazuaha is i guess the best 5 star to have at first
I’m glad I got Zhongli (I used to be stuck with Barbara to not die ‘>)
I dont have both kokomi and zhongli
I was thinking to pull for zhongli but now iam confused 😕.....one of my main team is hyperbloom and i was thinking to put zhongli in it for shield.....should i go for koko instead ?
Someone might not agree, but after Nahida must pull Yae Miko, they both together can clear abyss without other characters.
Also, in the open world, Yae Miko can hit anything.
And no, I'm almost never use Zhongli because I'm able to dodge everything
I started the game yesterday and I must admit that My Team is going to consist of Bennett, xingiqu, kazuha, nahida and kuki.
I have all of them except nahida and yelan shoud I pull for yelan or shoud I pull for childe or wait for nahida😢
I would save for Nahida
I started in 1.6 at klee banner. I got kazuha on first 10 pull of my acc.
I played till 2.2 but stopped playing. Till 4.1 5 days ago.
So I lost a loot of contents.
I have kazuha, raiden, ayaka,( all from first banner), hutao. My last 5 star.