Finally an EV that looks like a car. Well done Honda! There is no ugly duck face, no spartan interior, no asymmetrical exteriors. Honda has a nice interior, driver display and physical buttons. 11kW home charging is a guarantee for affordable driving. Next test with summer tires and original rims, no need to explain.
On the coasting test, you lost 5kph very suddenly when you passed the truck.. you approached at 107 but were at 99 by the you got to the cab .. I think the truck had a massive impact on that..
Canadians might buy it - since they can't get IONIQ 5s. Hyundai/KIA refuse to send thei EVs to Canada where they qualify for tax breaks. Cray. With a capital Zee.
They definitely priced it wrong, and i think they are realizing. They released it at 50k euro in Denmark, which they sold none of. They lowered the price twice, and now it sits at 34k euro which makes it actually a decent purchase as such a cheap price. Niro, Ioniq5 etc. are all at least 10k more now.
A friend of mine just got one of these. He says he likes it, and is impressed with it. However, he isn't really a "car" person. I didn't like to mention that the Kia Niro e has a larger boot, more space for passengers, a longer range, and a longer warranty..... I think it also costs a little less too.
He mention japan quality. I have now 101000 miles in my 2015 leaf and I had spent £0 on service except light bulbs, cabin filter and tyres of course. 11 bar left 86 miles range. Stunning work horse. I believe that every day proper usage and uk weather makes last ling the battery.
That's nice for you but back in reality our 2016 30jwh Leaf had not 1 not 2 but 3 BMS updates and 11 battery bars like yours but at 60 mph or less we could only get 68 miles at 10°c in late autumn early winter when we first got the car 6 months old as an ex demonstrator it had 11 bars but could go 110 miles is it not corporate fraud on Nissan's part that a BMS update robbed 40 miles of range while showing the same number of bars 11 after 6 years and 78,000 miles of use ? I believe the bars were a lie after the BMS updates and we should have been entitled to a new battery. Leaf spy was saying there was only 19 kWh left and the car could charge from 10% to 90% in 20 minutes. Having owned the car from nearly new we could tell it wasn't the same car it used to be and we got rid of it before the used EV prices crashed. I believe I'm entitled to compensation when I said these things in the Nissan Leaf Facebook group my posts got removed and I got banned funny that isn't it before I was kicked out I had a small number of people agreeing with me and they too had experienced the same things I had and to top it off and really prove they where fudging the numbers the car's BMS gave false m/kWh readings claiming we should have got more range out of the energy used than we actually did or to put it more simply it would say 4.7m/kWh and when you work it out with leaf spy or with how much charge you've put in the car it would be 3.7m/kWh a whole 19 miles less on the 19kwh usable we had left however when we first got the car the efficiency was more accurate.
Only as a friendly recommendation before you buy 😊.. I suggest you check, as many as Bjorn's videos you can about Tesla Model Y before you make a decision to buy.. I think you'll find it's normally "Tesla for the win" as Bjorn says often & seems to have proven. The new model 3 called the Highland project will be available very soon and I think he's already available to order.. And the model Y upgrade called Juniper Project should be available early next year... I'm looking forward very much to Bjorn's reviews of these 😊
Seems like they improve just a bit from E But instead of using pure EV platform, it use asian market HRV/Vezel chassis (yes there is electrified Vezel on previous model and it pretty much MX30 level of electrification)
Very interesting U R right about the power train... poor choice from H. I wonder how much do they really save 🤔 When are u going to do a "value for money test" ? Cars at 399'000 NOK 499 599 etc.
My biggest concern has to do with CCS implementation - Honda E loves to die at chargers more than 50kw (particularly Telsa supercharger and BYD chargers), not surprised as E was originally developed for Chademo. That's said given this car was originally developed in China (TV Tokyo has a documentary) several years ago (hence not surprised by the performance), which also uses a Chademo-derived DC charging protocol, it doesn't inspire confidence, particularly given the lack of support over E (of course - the E was an abandoned project ever since it's completion as the project chief left for Suzuki, and the platform not used as Honda has moved on for the dedicated EV platform from 2025).
Definitely one for Honda fans mostly, and - as a new EV - it doesn’t really bring anything new or exciting to the party, does it! Probably better cars and value out there for similar money.
Loved when Tesla came up with minimalist design with only one big screen. Now competitors are copying but they happen to make it cluttered again with this messy interface 😏
Strange with resonant sound. Have they lightened the car Or is it due to the tires? It would be interesting to see all the panels in the car, for example the inside of the doors. It should be possible to isolate most of the sound, at least in the factory. There are materials that hardly weigh anything.
Interesting test, slightly disappointing result. You mentioned the drive train which I suspect may be based on the HRV e-hev. Looks a nice interior though!
When are you going to test the Fiat 600e Same platform as the C4X and Jeep Avenger but less aerodynamic than the former but more than the latter. Could be a great car!
Björn, mind to to do a test with Lexus ez450e? I sat in one a couple days ago, bit shocked how bad the screen/software was and the charging was rather slow. It looks like a Lexus, but as ev was pretty mediocre. Pleaseeeeee
I drove a honda e for 2,5 years. Nice car but hate the continues range anxiety. When at the honda dealer late 2022 asking for othe ev with bigger range the dealer set no new ev where coming and honda wel full on hydrogen. So i switched to a kona. 😂
I've owned a Honda E for the last 2 years and it's a great little car. I bought it with the knowledge that it had limited range and I haven't regretted it since. Yes if it had 250km + usable, it would be far more useful but it still is a city car. The e:Ny1 is just another bland crossover from the Chinese domestic market that they used because they didn't have anything else available. Il stick with my cute Honda E thanks.
A city car doesn't need a big battery. It's strange that a car like this is tested on the highway, and not in the environment for which it was designed. In the same way big SUVs should be tested in city driving and criticized for being clunky and unsuitable for parking garages. Finally judge the entire car on this, just like Honda E is judged on its highway capabilities. Really stupid!
It's pretty embarrassing what Japanese carmakers are delivering when it comes to EVs. We have yet to see a good Japanese EV, and I for one am not holding my breath until it arrives....
Interesting. I'm having trouble finding the battery chemistry (Honda just say "Lithium Iron" which could include pretty much any recent EV battery chemistry). I'm assuming its a ternary battery though and not LFP.
White interior is top notch. Huge panorama roof is dangerous if the car flips. Outer design is good. Dashboard bit overkill for my liking. I think a japanese brands are years behind their potential... all EVs should have solar roof & hood for the commuting distances. The back should be box shaped + smaller / lighter rims are needed. The side mirror are huge in real life, klke an elefant ear.
It's good that japanese brands they are investing on evs this Honda looks good and have a good interior, i think they need to keep evolving, but cool car and good vídeo thx Bjorn 👍😉
This car's UI is so overly crowded and ugly. Overall vehicle performance is subpar too. If you want a Honda EV I would wait till the Prologue, but that is mostly a GM vehicle, so its giving me a bit of a concern of how well Honda will be able to make EVs without relying on their competitors.
Yes, it looks like Honda and Toyota are having competition who will come up with the stupidest name possible! I think Toyota is winning so far, but I might be wrong!
it should rather be called Honda n0:1 because nobody who does a tiny bit of research is going to buy this car. Just like the way the Honda E didn't sell in spite of its cutesy looks, this car with atrocious consumption and awkward battery belly and mediocre styling will have the same fate.
@@salamov963 It is actually a chinese car, made in China by GAC-Honda and Dongfeng-Honda, the joint ventures that Honda has in China to be able to sell in that market (but yes, it uses HRV platform)
There are many different reasons why Honda is not making real progress when it comes to e-mobility. Honda's market is in Asia and the USA. The European market doesn't really mean much for Honda. Europe wants electric cars, but Honda and the Japanese are simply not feeling the pressure. Too many combustion engines and hybrids are still sold in Asia and the USA, so the Japanese continue to focus on them. Honda is and has always been known for the high quality and manufacturing of engines and driving-related parts. I only drove Honda's during the combustion era and never had a single problem. It doesn't matter whether the car was new or 18 years old. He always drove and they were all efficient. So it's disappointing what Honda is currently delivering. The new Honda Eny 1one is a Japanese developed vehicle that is built in China to reduce costs in Europe. The Honda E was still built in Japan and only in small series, so it was absurdly expensive. Honda will continue to be behind when it comes to electric cars for the next few years, but if these E Hondas are even halfway as robustly manufactured as the combustion engines. At least they will last a long time. So if charging performance is unimportant and you prefer the durability of the components, you would be well served with a Honda.
This car is actually developed in China too, but with input from Japanese engineers, there is a documentary of this by TV Tokyo. Really the point of it is to bridge the gap before the completely ground-up EV comes to live in 2025 (with cost in mind of course - hence in the US it's GM rebadge for now), while meeting the EV quota by gov as well as avg fleet CO2. Given the fact the vehicle was developed and on sale in China several years ago anyways, I'd say I'm not disappointed nor impressed performance-wise - not that I'll buy one of course. In addition, also to note the HR-V/Jazz is already a generation behind platform-wise, they didn't get the latest modular HA (Honda Architecture - used by new Civic, ZR-V etc.) due to Honda needed to refresh them before it was ready - the road noise is a testimony to that. Honda seems slow at the moment not because things are not happening, instead it is because too much is going on in the background: 8 battery programmes ongoing for example (6 liquid battery JV/Partership, 1 semi-solid state and 1 solid-state). JV with Sony for EV, partnership with Isuzu for Hydrogen commercial vehicles, commercial Kei programme, swappable E-moped programme etc. In addition, there's also the drive to develop things in-house (with the increased stake in Hitachi Astemo - who made the very efficient drivetrain in MX-30 which Bjorn praised as it has little loss at high speed) instead of buying off-the-shelf. It has already declared to completely shift to EV and HCV by 2040 (however EV has the biggest share of investment atm), not to mention the current CEO has always specialised in eco-cars ever since he joined in 1987, he himself also did the NSX EV for the Hillclimb back then (and is supervising the next one). The fact Honda has recently offloaded Yachiyo - the supplier Honda had close relationship since Soichiro Honda's time - shows its commitment, as 80% of Yachiyo's sales come from fuel tanks.
My revivifiers had Conti WinterContacts on their Mercedes C-300. Amazingly quiet. Much less road noise than Conti summer tires (but the tires wore amazingly quickly)
Apparently it's a really re badged GMs.. . I'm guessing it's the Equinox With exterior styling changes,,, and some other interior changes, including functionality. As Bjorn keeps telling us.. & proving to us.. that Tesla are better than any other EV, in most ways why would you not just buy a Tesla.
I understand ...you're either a lover or a hater.. Personally I don't give a s*** either way about Elon.. And therfore my logic brain would buy a Tesla as Bjorn preaches to us, it's the best car.. I do understand cos my dad was very disgusted when I bought German cars he was in WW2.. So we ended up buying French cars that continually break down 😅 so when he has left this earth we bought Honda Civic.. The most reliable car I have owned in 45 years.. But which also he would have been disgusted with being Japanese.
@gregchristie2763 I understand your logic and yes Tesla is a good car. Reason I bought (and absolutely love our Ioniq5) is it is more like a car and less like driving a computer. We have a 2022 I5 Ultimate trim AWD and it is an excellent car. We wrack up an average of 1000km per week on it and it does everything we need in a car. It all boils down to personal preferences! 😂 Mike 🇨🇦
Watch out Tesla, the big boys are coming. Yeh, right, got to love almost being smashed into the Armco railing. Maybe it's a sign of what's coming for, 'the big boys'.
Finally an EV that looks like a car. Well done Honda! There is no ugly duck face, no spartan interior, no asymmetrical exteriors. Honda has a nice interior, driver display and physical buttons. 11kW home charging is a guarantee for affordable driving. Next test with summer tires and original rims, no need to explain.
I like that it has normal door handles and not the insipid flush handles you see on so many EVs nowadays.
Love your work Bjorn. The best tests and the best dad jokes in the business!!!
that batteryschtatus from the e up presentation never get old :)
The colour is nice. It gives it a Japanese domestic market vibe
Noisy, Thirsty, FWD == NOPE. Nice interior though. Thanks for the excellent reviews!!!
On the coasting test, you lost 5kph very suddenly when you passed the truck.. you approached at 107 but were at 99 by the you got to the cab .. I think the truck had a massive impact on that..
Yeah, likely the result would have been even worse without the truck slipstream in the beginning.
I don't know why anyone would buy this when the IONIQ 5 exists. The S.Korean manufacturers have come for Honda, Toyota, Subaru and Mazda's lunch.
In Canada, it would be because of availability 🥲 Ioniq 5 is sold out everywhere
Canadians might buy it - since they can't get IONIQ 5s. Hyundai/KIA refuse to send thei EVs to Canada where they qualify for tax breaks. Cray. With a capital Zee.
They definitely priced it wrong, and i think they are realizing. They released it at 50k euro in Denmark, which they sold none of. They lowered the price twice, and now it sits at 34k euro which makes it actually a decent purchase as such a cheap price. Niro, Ioniq5 etc. are all at least 10k more now.
What a wonderful name! "e:Ny1", just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? I just love my lowercase e, semicolon, capital N, lowercase y number one.
In Hungary we just call it "anyone".😅
@@gaborpatonai121 Not bad, not bad at all. 👍👍
Vagy ennyi-ke xD
Efficiency is on par with Atto 3 which is an EV on a dedicated platform.
Both are Chinese platform cars 😅
Cool interface, smart integration with carplay
A friend of mine just got one of these. He says he likes it, and is impressed with it. However, he isn't really a "car" person. I didn't like to mention that the Kia Niro e has a larger boot, more space for passengers, a longer range, and a longer warranty..... I think it also costs a little less too.
He mention japan quality. I have now 101000 miles in my 2015 leaf and I had spent £0 on service except light bulbs, cabin filter and tyres of course. 11 bar left 86 miles range. Stunning work horse. I believe that every day proper usage and uk weather makes last ling the battery.
That's nice for you but back in reality our 2016 30jwh Leaf had not 1 not 2 but 3 BMS updates and 11 battery bars like yours but at 60 mph or less we could only get 68 miles at 10°c in late autumn early winter when we first got the car 6 months old as an ex demonstrator it had 11 bars but could go 110 miles is it not corporate fraud on Nissan's part that a BMS update robbed 40 miles of range while showing the same number of bars 11 after 6 years and 78,000 miles of use ? I believe the bars were a lie after the BMS updates and we should have been entitled to a new battery. Leaf spy was saying there was only 19 kWh left and the car could charge from 10% to 90% in 20 minutes. Having owned the car from nearly new we could tell it wasn't the same car it used to be and we got rid of it before the used EV prices crashed. I believe I'm entitled to compensation when I said these things in the Nissan Leaf Facebook group my posts got removed and I got banned funny that isn't it before I was kicked out I had a small number of people agreeing with me and they too had experienced the same things I had and to top it off and really prove they where fudging the numbers the car's BMS gave false m/kWh readings claiming we should have got more range out of the energy used than we actually did or to put it more simply it would say 4.7m/kWh and when you work it out with leaf spy or with how much charge you've put in the car it would be 3.7m/kWh a whole 19 miles less on the 19kwh usable we had left however when we first got the car the efficiency was more accurate.
Thanks for the test. The result is a big disappointment just like with Toyota, Subaru and Lexus.
because this car have 2021 tech
And I will buy it anyway.
Only as a friendly recommendation before you buy 😊.. I suggest you check, as many as Bjorn's videos you can about Tesla Model Y before you make a decision to buy.. I think you'll find it's normally "Tesla for the win" as Bjorn says often & seems to have proven. The new model 3 called the Highland project will be available very soon and I think he's already available to order.. And the model Y upgrade called Juniper Project should be available early next year... I'm looking forward very much to Bjorn's reviews of these 😊
Seems like they improve just a bit from E
But instead of using pure EV platform, it use asian market HRV/Vezel chassis (yes there is electrified Vezel on previous model and it pretty much MX30 level of electrification)
@@gregchristie2763Bjorn isn't fond of the stalkless design
And screen should stay the same as with Honda HRV…looks a lot better plus it would retain physical buttons.
Very interesting
U R right about the power train... poor choice from H. I wonder how much do they really save 🤔
When are u going to do a "value for money test" ?
Cars at
399'000 NOK
499
599 etc.
My biggest concern has to do with CCS implementation - Honda E loves to die at chargers more than 50kw (particularly Telsa supercharger and BYD chargers), not surprised as E was originally developed for Chademo. That's said given this car was originally developed in China (TV Tokyo has a documentary) several years ago (hence not surprised by the performance), which also uses a Chademo-derived DC charging protocol, it doesn't inspire confidence, particularly given the lack of support over E (of course - the E was an abandoned project ever since it's completion as the project chief left for Suzuki, and the platform not used as Honda has moved on for the dedicated EV platform from 2025).
I love it, but it is really expensive compared to the hybrid version.
Love your content Bjorn but videos are blurry since the new camera setup. I don't know if it is frame rate or youtube's bit rate but something is odd.
Greetings Bjorn
Hola
thanks Bjørn. I suggest they rename the thing Honda e:dDO0med1
176Wh/km at 90kmh is very high, wow...
About the same as Model 3 at 120 km/h?
@@bjornnyland at least i the caee of my Model 3 LR: yes. that seems like a huge efficiency gap, no?
Definitely one for Honda fans mostly, and - as a new EV - it doesn’t really bring anything new or exciting to the party, does it!
Probably better cars and value out there for similar money.
Kule videoer du lager, og du har en «underholdende og morsom» aksent
This is 172” long. The electric Honda that the US gets, the Prologue, is 20” longer at 192”. It’s frustrating that the US gets only huge vehicles.
Does it get a bigger battery?
@@Blasterxp Uses 85 kwh battery from GM. 280 to 300 mile range. So the vehicle will be heavy. Starting around $50k US before tax.
Good news? Neither will be available in any quantities for US or Canada customers.😅
@@mart0225 The Norwegian version was just dropped to 25K USD including 2 set of tires. Priced to sell!
Loved when Tesla came up with minimalist design with only one big screen. Now competitors are copying but they happen to make it cluttered again with this messy interface 😏
Tesla went too far with the removal of the stalks
That's how you know that competition doesn't know what they're doing.
It's shocking how little these companies innovate.
It is not designing decision! It is a cost decision! Also you talk about copying? Look at the design of the Tesla its copied all over the place!
@@JustinHall1976 removing buttons and features has nothing to do with being Innovativ
Strange with resonant sound. Have they lightened the car Or is it due to the tires? It would be interesting to see all the panels in the car, for example the inside of the doors. It should be possible to isolate most of the sound, at least in the factory. There are materials that hardly weigh anything.
The e:Ny1 is actually a joint venture with Dongfeng a Chinese-government owned car manufacturer, known for making “copy-cat” cars or dupes.
Interesting test, slightly disappointing result. You mentioned the drive train which I suspect may be based on the HRV e-hev. Looks a nice interior though!
I wish they would do a new Honda e with bigger battery, and more realistic price.
@@kuro68000 If they made a Honda-e with a 180hp motor and 58kWh battery they'd have a customer here. Really cool car!
@@tomsixsix I could do for a slightly larger one, but with the same screens and cameras. Either would be very tempting if decently priced.
Glad that I will buy it fully loaded anyway.
127 for 120 it's a Honda all right, my last two had the same offset which is nicht konstant.
The Honda Eneeone, sounds like EV1
When are you going to test the Fiat 600e
Same platform as the C4X and Jeep Avenger but less aerodynamic than the former but more than the latter. Could be a great car!
Off topic, but are you able to get your hands on a Seres 5? I saw it yesterday at a local autoshow and it looks very promising.
Björn, mind to to do a test with Lexus ez450e? I sat in one a couple days ago, bit shocked how bad the screen/software was and the charging was rather slow. It looks like a Lexus, but as ev was pretty mediocre. Pleaseeeeee
Granted, it is a BZ4X underneath though
I owned a few Hondas and always liked the brand, but the chance of my next EV being a Honda is miniscule
I drove a honda e for 2,5 years. Nice car but hate the continues range anxiety. When at the honda dealer late 2022 asking for othe ev with bigger range the dealer set no new ev where coming and honda wel full on hydrogen. So i switched to a kona. 😂
Starting from £45,000 here in UK is too expensive.
That's a bit mad
Directional tires installed backwards?
I've owned a Honda E for the last 2 years and it's a great little car. I bought it with the knowledge that it had limited range and I haven't regretted it since. Yes if it had 250km + usable, it would be far more useful but it still is a city car.
The e:Ny1 is just another bland crossover from the Chinese domestic market that they used because they didn't have anything else available. Il stick with my cute Honda E thanks.
A city car doesn't need a big battery. It's strange that a car like this is tested on the highway, and not in the environment for which it was designed. In the same way big SUVs should be tested in city driving and criticized for being clunky and unsuitable for parking garages. Finally judge the entire car on this, just like Honda E is judged on its highway capabilities. Really stupid!
It is a light car and will therefore not generate as high speed coasting downhill like an ID.4 that ways 500 kg more.
Underwhelming range and efficiency. Under spec charging speed. Yeah, it’s a fat-e for sure.
Can you change the font size of the center screen to make it smaller?
'good to turn around early' - also police ftw - but yes huge turtle
Wow, the big turtle! 🐢
Here in Spain, Honda advertises max charging speed to be 78kW, not 84. TBH, it is way outdated
It's pretty embarrassing what Japanese carmakers are delivering when it comes to EVs. We have yet to see a good Japanese EV, and I for one am not holding my breath until it arrives....
Again good news, since Honda won't "deliver" - like Toyota and their sub-brand Sub-aru.
Interesting. I'm having trouble finding the battery chemistry (Honda just say "Lithium Iron" which could include pretty much any recent EV battery chemistry). I'm assuming its a ternary battery though and not LFP.
Even NMC doesn't mean much. There is NMC811, NMC532...
White interior is top notch. Huge panorama roof is dangerous if the car flips. Outer design is good. Dashboard bit overkill for my liking. I think a japanese brands are years behind their potential... all EVs should have solar roof & hood for the commuting distances. The back should be box shaped + smaller / lighter rims are needed. The side mirror are huge in real life, klke an elefant ear.
It's good that japanese brands they are investing on evs this Honda looks good and have a good interior, i think they need to keep evolving, but cool car and good vídeo thx Bjorn 👍😉
It's joint venture with Chinese Dongfeng so not Japanese 😂
@@rmkkkk well Mercedes Also have a Renault engine so what's the point dude ?
@@johnnysmile01point is there is no Japanese fancy technology it's same Chinese EV off-the-shelf parts. No effort car for honda
can u name the Music tested on the sound system
Let's just call it...Honda e-Colon.
This car's UI is so overly crowded and ugly. Overall vehicle performance is subpar too. If you want a Honda EV I would wait till the Prologue, but that is mostly a GM vehicle, so its giving me a bit of a concern of how well Honda will be able to make EVs without relying on their competitors.
Change the Winter tyres
Why?
@@bjornnyland looks odd with less efficient winter tyres being compared summer tyres in your spreadsheet
The name of the car in Norwegian reads: A new one.
Alfa style handles rather than Zoe
the screen looks like a navigation unit in a bad mobile game
Good to see first GM/Homda test. Europe gets a smaller version which nice. Now we can compare the two versions.
this aint gm honda this is real honda
VTL?
I wonder why they called this car the Honda electriColon NewYork One.
Could you measure real (not advertised) ground clearance?
Another inefficient EV from Honda, it’s like they learned nothing from the e. At least the e was cute.
The e didn’t sell very well. This will be the way forward for Honda.
@@Thetyrerepairer How much are Honda paying you to dig up ancient RUclips comments and try and make it look like Honda have a clue?
Worse range than an equivalent 5 year old Korean car. Hopeless effort from Honda.
What a rediculous name.
Ans you're not allowed to call it "Anyone".
you both have ridiculous spelling as well
Yes, it looks like Honda and Toyota are having competition who will come up with the stupidest name possible! I think Toyota is winning so far, but I might be wrong!
Battery durability is very important for Honda. So you'll get nowhere..... Forever.
Who would by this car? E:ny1?
Buy
😂😂😂 ikke By
Disappointed that they went back to mirrors. Charge port in the right place. Not going to cheap I suppose.
The screen looks awesome. Wish I had something similar in my silly TMY.
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Its again obvious that traditional car manufacturers still do not take electric cars serious. What they continue to put on the market is a joke.
Nothing wrong with a 60 kWh battery ev...
it should rather be called Honda n0:1 because nobody who does a tiny bit of research is going to buy this car. Just like the way the Honda E didn't sell in spite of its cutesy looks, this car with atrocious consumption and awkward battery belly and mediocre styling will have the same fate.
👍👍👍👍
A shitty Chinese EV rebranded is just not acceptable
its same car as hrv its not rebadged chinese car
@@salamov963 It is actually a chinese car, made in China by GAC-Honda and Dongfeng-Honda, the joint ventures that Honda has in China to be able to sell in that market (but yes, it uses HRV platform)
If this is Honda's best EV, what must their worst be like?
still miles behind chinese ev tbf
The blandest looking Honda ever. But bZ4X is no longer the strangest japanese model name.
There are many different reasons why Honda is not making real progress when it comes to e-mobility.
Honda's market is in Asia and the USA. The European market doesn't really mean much for Honda.
Europe wants electric cars, but Honda and the Japanese are simply not feeling the pressure.
Too many combustion engines and hybrids are still sold in Asia and the USA, so the Japanese continue to focus on them.
Honda is and has always been known for the high quality and manufacturing of engines and driving-related parts.
I only drove Honda's during the combustion era and never had a single problem. It doesn't matter whether the car was new or 18 years old. He always drove and they were all efficient.
So it's disappointing what Honda is currently delivering.
The new Honda Eny 1one is a Japanese developed vehicle that is built in China to reduce costs in Europe. The Honda E was still built in Japan and only in small series, so it was absurdly expensive.
Honda will continue to be behind when it comes to electric cars for the next few years, but if these E Hondas are even halfway as robustly manufactured as the combustion engines. At least they will last a long time.
So if charging performance is unimportant and you prefer the durability of the components, you would be well served with a Honda.
This car is actually developed in China too, but with input from Japanese engineers, there is a documentary of this by TV Tokyo. Really the point of it is to bridge the gap before the completely ground-up EV comes to live in 2025 (with cost in mind of course - hence in the US it's GM rebadge for now), while meeting the EV quota by gov as well as avg fleet CO2. Given the fact the vehicle was developed and on sale in China several years ago anyways, I'd say I'm not disappointed nor impressed performance-wise - not that I'll buy one of course. In addition, also to note the HR-V/Jazz is already a generation behind platform-wise, they didn't get the latest modular HA (Honda Architecture - used by new Civic, ZR-V etc.) due to Honda needed to refresh them before it was ready - the road noise is a testimony to that.
Honda seems slow at the moment not because things are not happening, instead it is because too much is going on in the background: 8 battery programmes ongoing for example (6 liquid battery JV/Partership, 1 semi-solid state and 1 solid-state). JV with Sony for EV, partnership with Isuzu for Hydrogen commercial vehicles, commercial Kei programme, swappable E-moped programme etc. In addition, there's also the drive to develop things in-house (with the increased stake in Hitachi Astemo - who made the very efficient drivetrain in MX-30 which Bjorn praised as it has little loss at high speed) instead of buying off-the-shelf. It has already declared to completely shift to EV and HCV by 2040 (however EV has the biggest share of investment atm), not to mention the current CEO has always specialised in eco-cars ever since he joined in 1987, he himself also did the NSX EV for the Hillclimb back then (and is supervising the next one). The fact Honda has recently offloaded Yachiyo - the supplier Honda had close relationship since Soichiro Honda's time - shows its commitment, as 80% of Yachiyo's sales come from fuel tanks.
Honda still isn’t serious about EVs
Consumtion and noise could be the result of the car using winter tyres.
Nordic winter tires are generelly quieter than summer tires.
I get more noise end higher consumtion on summer tyres. But that is Just one ICE car. But about 10 % difference.
My revivifiers had Conti WinterContacts on their Mercedes C-300. Amazingly quiet. Much less road noise than Conti summer tires (but the tires wore amazingly quickly)
HRV
Wow, that is remarkably bad, and it “fast charged” at 69kW!
25kwh/100km consumption at 130 km/h.That’s 11kwh more than my BMW i3 🤐
This car manufactured by Chinese car maker DongFeng
Apparently it's a really re badged GMs.. . I'm guessing it's the Equinox With exterior styling changes,,, and some other interior changes, including functionality. As Bjorn keeps telling us.. & proving to us.. that Tesla are better than any other EV, in most ways why would you not just buy a Tesla.
I believe you are thinking of the Prologue.
You're right the Prologue is based on the Chevy Blazer... Comment about amended thanks.. So I wonder what the ny1 is based off..is it the Equinox ?
Well, 1 name: Elon Musk.
He’s the main reason I will never buy a Tesla.
I understand ...you're either a lover or a hater.. Personally I don't give a s*** either way about Elon.. And therfore my logic brain would buy a Tesla as Bjorn preaches to us, it's the best car.. I do understand cos my dad was very disgusted when I bought German cars he was in WW2.. So we ended up buying French cars that continually break down 😅 so when he has left this earth we bought Honda Civic.. The most reliable car I have owned in 45 years.. But which also he would have been disgusted with being Japanese.
@gregchristie2763 I understand your logic and yes Tesla is a good car. Reason I bought (and absolutely love our Ioniq5) is it is more like a car and less like driving a computer. We have a 2022 I5 Ultimate trim AWD and it is an excellent car. We wrack up an average of 1000km per week on it and it does everything we need in a car.
It all boils down to personal preferences! 😂
Mike 🇨🇦
Watch out Tesla, the big boys are coming.
Yeh, right, got to love almost being smashed into the Armco railing.
Maybe it's a sign of what's coming for, 'the big boys'.
Honda any one 🙂
Pity about the stupid name, too.
This is certainly a lot nicer than the reskinned GM we’re getting in the US 🫤
It looks the same with e:NP1 in China and that thing doesn't work at all.
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