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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Frost Prime has a new trick up his sleeve.
There is a cool interaction with 3rd Wave Incarnons.
Wanna super charge your damage and make them better?
This is something only Biting Frost can do!
Thank you Kronk for bringing this up to me for a video idea.
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0:00 Intro & Contexts
0:22 3rd Wave Incarnons
0:56 Which Weapons Does This Work On?
1:53 Biting Frost Mechanics
2:30 Biting Frost Scaling on Angstrum/Gammacor/Gorgon
3:18 How To Build For Biting Frost?
3:47 Frost Rework Changes
4:07 Why Airburst?
5:00 Which Weapon Variants for Incarnons?
FROST PRIME
6:03 Frost Setup Overview | Avalanche
6:23 Build 01 | Frosty Avalanche
6:59 Alternative Modding for 167 Strength
7:37 Alternatives to Arcane Energize
8:24 Incarnon Ammo Efficiency
8:53 Panzer Build
9:11 Weapon Overview Elements
INCARNON BUILDS
9:42 Gammacor Incarnon Perks & Build
11:10 Gorgon Incarnon Perks & Build
12:23 Angstrum Incarnon Differences & Changes
13:02 Angstrum Incarnon Perks & Build
13:40 Multiplicative GunCO on Angstrum Incarnon Mode
14:27 Conclusion
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Biting Frost is an older augment for Frost even predating his slight rework. This is an insane mod that gives 200% CC/CD and doesn't scale with strength, meaning you do not need positive strength for Frost to use it well. Frost was also reworked to only need 167 Strength to full strip on Avalanche, making negative Strength builds not only possible, but actually desirable to open up more slots for Range and Energy Economy.
This augment works like a critical chance or critical damage mod on almost all weapons in the game. The exception has been Angstrum, Gammacor and Gorgon Incarnons. Precisely, this interaction only affects projectile Incarnon modes of 3rd Wave Incarnons. Yes, it doesn't affect any of the older Incarnons, be it in Incarnon mode or not, projectile or not.
This in particular is a massive buff for Gammacor Incarnon, who suffers from lack of good innate elements, lack of accessible grouping utility due to requiring Incarnon mode, lack of scaling damage, and lack of usable pull radius on the Incarnon mode shot. For all weapons shown, the critical interaction alone results in a 2.5x total damage increase. Including the critical damage from Biting Frost results in a roughly 4x overall damage bump. But Frost also armor strips, skyrocketing your damage and really letting these weapons shine. If you love red crit builds, this is the way to make these lesser Incarnons shine!
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Thank you Kronk for bringing this up to me for a video idea.
0:00 Intro & Contexts
0:22 3rd Wave Incarnons
0:56 Which Weapons Does This Work On?
1:53 Biting Frost Mechanics
2:30 Biting Frost Scaling on Angstrum/Gammacor/Gorgon
3:18 How To Build For Biting Frost?
3:47 Frost Rework Changes
4:07 Why Airburst?
5:00 Which Weapon Variants for Incarnons?
FROST PRIME
6:03 Frost Setup Overview | Avalanche
6:23 Build 01 | Frosty Avalanche
6:59 Alternative Modding for 167 Strength
7:37 Alternatives to Arcane Energize
8:24 Incarnon Ammo Efficiency
8:53 Panzer Build
9:11 Weapon Overview Elements
INCARNON BUILDS
9:42 Gammacor Incarnon Perks & Build
11:10 Gorgon Incarnon Perks & Build
12:23 Angstrum Incarnon Differences & Changes
13:02 Angstrum Incarnon Perks & Build
13:40 Multiplicative GunCO on Angstrum Incarnon Mode
14:27 Conclusion
Ok I'll say it again-
Breach surge sparks are affected by biting frost as well, allowing you to "double dip" the crit buff essentially.
Breach surge + 100% strip avalanche + prime + gammacor nuke = damage cap luls
Best I’ve found yet
Yeah got negative 2 bil
I don't have much time to play at the moment but your video are always fun to watch XD, i know what to send to my friend who is a frost main. Thx for this
4:30 AYOOO???
Great info! Thank you!
my heart skipped a beat when at 3:19 he said forgor
Very nice. I'll definitely give this a try
4:30
YOU WHAT
I just built my Frost and was using this augment when I noticed my Tenet Envoy was getting red crits. Which it definitely shouldn't, so this additive/multiplicative "bug" seems to affect more weapons than just the newest incarnons
My envoy nukes with frost.
I was getting 4m+ red crits with the envoy after a full armor strip frost build. He is busted now 😊
Are you using breach surge? As it may be the surge sparks which get red crits
I also think this works with the stahlta because I git all reds and was getting like 5m damage numbers
@@NuggetWrestlersurge sparks can't crit higher than yellow?
4:30 sounds very… interesting (subtitles as well)
Cool
Build ;)
Wanted something new to play around with now that frost has that pretty new skin
My Lex incarnon seemed to produce Red crits a lot more often than I expected, might want to check that.
Did some testing that I think I got correct! Works/doesn’t work denotes multiplicative or additive results respectively.
Shedu- Doesn’t work
Basmu- Works
Tenet Tetra- Works
Aeolak- Doesn’t work
Kuva Drakgoon- Works on uncharged shots and not charged
4:30 You got some explaining to do, brodie 😭😭💀
Interesting, pretty similar to the Frost build I've been on since the Overguard change. Glad to know I wasn't completely off-base with my idea! Thanks for the vid!
Not sure if this is helpful to anyone but I run two Amber Energy shards on my Frost w/ a Rank 5 Fleeting and Molt Efficiency. This makes it so that each orb I pick up generates 62 energy and 1 rotation of Avalanche + Airburst costs 60 energy.
Just did damage testing on most of the primary weapons I own. Envoy works as others have mentioned, plus Stahlta and Kuva Chak. All have aoe components, so they clear groups quite well. Also, maybe this bug applies to projectile and aoe based weapons?
Edit: This works on Epitaph. It also works on both laetum incarnon mode and the Tenet Plinx, but only the alt fire. Seems like this just works on a few aoe weapons, although a large number don't work. Of those weapons, it works on some non aoe modes, like the epitaph charged shot, and the stahlta primary fire, but doesn't seem to work the same way on others, like the plinx, where it only functions on the aoe mode.
Edit 2: Bubonico and Strun incarnon also work. That completes my list as I have no more weapons to test, but I'd be happy to know what others work.
So the crit is Multiplicative on all of those weapons. Those are all my babies XD. How about the Zarr
@@zenraloc Unfortunately not, I tested the kuva zarr and it didn't work.
I don’t know if it is common knowledge but biting frost affects breach surge sparks, which can then red crit. Not that breach surge is an uncommon helminth
Man. My man continues to discover the most obscure shit and continues to show it to the rest of us. Good work man
but i was the one that found it? he even credited me in the video sadge.
A lot of his videos its not him "discovering" obscure shit. It's people he's connected to discovering them, and he uses his platform to inform the masses ( though it'll probably be a bug and get patched at some point ).
Don't give him credit for discovering, more so give him credit for sharing discoveries with us.
Just got my prisma angstrum and frost is my main so this is exciting
That's really cool! I would love to play Frost again for the first time in years but shield gating is gross so oh well. Maybe one day.
Use this combo for eZ shield gating:
Dispensary + Brief Respite + Equilibrium + Synth Fiber. That gives you full shields with a single cast of dispensary + basically infinite energy, health and ammo. Arcanes i use are arcane blessing (for fun lol) and arcane guardian but feel free to replace them with something like avenger + energize if you want.
For circuit you should use combat discipline + arcane avenger and arcane blessing to do even crazier dmg numbers while also not dieing from your aura mod.
Wow, no wonder angstrum and Gorgon were feeling so bad effective. Was was running with frost!
I used frost on this weeks archon hunt and I took the angstrum with me and a single shot did 8 million damage.
Question what stance were you using in the beginning i mean warframe stance
Ive really been enjoying him with a tox latron with HM n that new cold cd multishot arcane, and then subsumed nourish for viral/gas/slash on incarnon. Then another tox tombfinger secondary with no forced slash, for viral/rad/tox and that headshot seeking arcane. Now im slotting his sibear for the theme, and its actually doing big red crit damage so it might just stay with him. This one doesnt get any neat nourish combos since my riven has tox, so its just viral/viral heavy attack spam, i could either go with a permanent x6 combo heavy attack spam, or go with the incarnon crit and see red crits on a x2 heavy attack spam, so far the dopamine red crits have won. I havent used the melee in disruption yet, but the other two were two tapping demolysts throughout the first hour, probably longer, but thats normally when i get bored or pubs get bored. All three are red crit millions of damage beasts that i think have found a permanent slot on my frost. Its bonkers to think that im happy using the sibear and frost in 2023, but hes easily gone from my prime with the least amount of time played to jumping up to my top 12 used over these last couple weeks
Damn AZN I've never heard you say "suck" so much in such a short amount of time 😂
im basicly running this build but i have 2 casting speed shards and 2 tua effectiveness on energy orbs and 1 tua Strength shard and Arachne over Energize. but i didnt know these interactions with the incarnons
Tua?? That's impressive for naming crystals like that, thank you I'll "borrow" it if you don't mind
ill switch out the cast speed for airburst rounds
Could you share your Frost Skin + Color palettes? I really love that look.
I'm sorry, but you have made things a little bit confusing here, friend.
So WHICH weapon should we use, is it the Angstrum or the Gorgon? If I understood correctly, you are going for the Angstrum as mentioned in 6:01.
On top of that, you're also bringing a build for the... Gammacor? ... But, why exactly? Being a secondary, shouldn't it be left out so we can bring something different to kill Acolytes, or a status primer (Epitaph for example)?
Anyways, thank you for the video. I shall start building Frost following your guide sometime this weekend. :)
You can bring any of the 3. The main purpose was to show what you can do with the 3 weapons, rather than needing to bring a specific ones from the list of 3.
@@Aznvasions Oh ok, I see. Well, guess I'll first test which one offers the best style of gameplay, then apply your build on the chosen one. Thanks for clarifying, mate.
Frost seems pretty good, I just need to figure out a good all rounder build where I can spam 4 with good range/ duration and survive at the same time. I guess Nourish is the best subsume, gloom would be great if I could manage the energy economy. Ensnare maybe?
A bit off topic, but why aren't people using Cascadia Flare? I just discovered it, so I might be a bit off, but, it seems pretty good for weapons that proc heat (autos, shotguns, beams), it doesn't require kills, and it goes up to 480%(?) vs 360%(?).
I've actually been throwing heat mods in my "flex slots" just to be able to use it.
some weapons have to use 3 mod slots to have heat and switching weapons just to proc it slows u down
Cascadia Flare isnt used as much because of how you lose the stacks. When the timer runs out you lose all the stacks instead of how deadhead and merciless only lose 1 stack everytime the timer hits 0. Also deadhead gives extra HS damage and merciless gives extra reload speed.
@@Goosyx That's good to know, thanks!
I've been using flare on the Occucor which can be a pain to get going (you need kills to trigger the augment for status and CC) so flare seems to ramp the damage quickly with one heat mod, gets them extra beams & status/ cc. up right after the first kill.
I've been switching to Deadhead on my primaries (AoE meta is over) because I like the extra time between the stacks decaying.
You said the Crit exploit works with this wave of Incarnons, does that also apply to Ankou Incarnon, or is it better to stick to Sibear Incarnon for Frost?
I haven't tried anku yet, but I've been loving my frost with his sibear once I got it Sunday night. Red crit heavy spam on fully stripped targets while doing viral damage with just a toxin mod. I'm shocked that I'm using both in 2023 and loving it hahaha, I just wish the slam attack did all the damage to everything it touched
did u watch the video
Been playing frost for weeks with Gorgon. Thought it was just working as intended.
I just came to ask about a 10k overshield that a frost put on everyone and how to do it.
Can this build work on "Elite Deep Archimedea?"
Random question: Why subsume over Frost's 1 than his 2? I know both abilities are weak but isn't his 1 needed to pop his bubble? I am definitely sold on airburst btw... I've seen people use ensnare to group frozen targets but wasnt sure airburst would work. Thanks alot for this guide!
Bubble will really only be used in defense or excavation missions but they really wont be needed. Avalanche will freeze everything except eximus but still armor strip them making them much easier to kill. His 2 can at least add 6 cold procs that will give you extra crit damage.
@@Goosyx Yeah I hear you bro... normally the bubble dies fast enough I don't have to bother popping it on high end content. I am really liking Frost right now especially in circuit. My only issue is energy sustain for spamming his 4. I need to farm Grendel so I can subsume nourish I think. I did give him a couple blue archon shards to help with his tiny energy pool which helps a bit.
I been using this for awhile
Given biting frost, could critical surge from wisp do almost the same?
Critical surge is a buff to yourself i don't think so
Interesting, but increased damage doesn't meaningfully increase KPM if enemies get armor striped. it helps against corpus which lacks armor in a first place, but they are very weak to begin with so I would argue that what you need is not better damage but better AoE (you are guaranteed to kill them if you touch them, so what you really need is a way to reach them)
Big number brrrrr
It does buff really bad weapons u really like which increases their kpm
I don't Understand.... How does Armor Stripping Not Increase your KPM ? 🤔
@@lookalike4805 you have misunderstood, they are saying yif you armor strip then the damage increase from this won't make you kill faster cause things will die at the same rate as easily. They didn't say the armor stripping is the cause
Why not use his avalanche augment for overgaurd instead of sheild gating since you get multiple benefits like no knockback you can't get a status proc and it's higher scaling. Still could run an auger mod if yoy realy wanted for sheild gating too if it's a concern but also since you "spam" his avalanche the whole time I just feel like it's more convenient and save mod slots with better benefits. And then run molt efficiency for more duration while sheilds are active since you'll have overgaurd your sheild never get touched
This screams bug, 100%. I expect a fix. That said, Biting Frost is good even without this bug, and I definitely wish Frost's passive was actually at all relevant in gameplay.
It is a bug in the way that DE has no idea how to implement anything in their spaghetti code anymore and actually predict what will happen. This game's mechanics have become the most inconsistent mess i ever encountered in gaming and without content creators testing and explaining, it would be a complete clustertruck of inconsistencies noone knew their way through.
None of these things are interesting or "tech", it is just yet another thing not working as intended with all the stuff it interacts with. Expect no fix, though randomly it might get fixed by accident when they try to do/fix something else entirely.
no doubt no doubt, after all you cant have too much fun in warframe
Agreed the passive should be reworked
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Im still waiting on the temporal erosion video, azn.
why the augment doesnt bassicly nothing
And here i am playing Gorgon incarnon with Frost for a few weeks just because "funny aoe bubbles with funny bubble man". Good to know.
I wonder if perhaps you could fit in Icy Avalanche augment for more survivability due to Overguard? Currently i use a nourish Frost setup and its pretty much just a Avalanche spam on a cluster of enemies.
And, I wonder how long until DE fixes this coz this defo seems not intentional lol.
Shield gate
They better not nerf it
I love frost but i desprately wish he got a touch up ability wise especially when they gave him the super skin his abilitys are so outdated
how about usin Anomaly for grouping? what helminth options does that open for us?
what do we even need
@@noahedenborg4221 good question. I haven't tested the build so no idea whats the weakest part of the build if it is scaling or energy sustain. Mandatory Nourish mention just because the build seems energy hungry.
Nourish
Ok, but what's the frost build when this bug is fixed?
It will stay the same, the crit chance will just go down. The Gorgon, for example, is currently at 297% crit chance. If/when this gets patched, it will be at 165%. Some of the damage will be lost, but overall the build should function the same.
I tried it with Strun, the dmg can go up to mil without Riven.
This is a really neat one though i am always leery of leaning on bugs. Fortunately, my Frost build has a bug-free solution to solving the same basic problem that works with any good crit oriented weapon.
Frost imo needs two things to complete his kit: energy gain, and crowd kill. Avalanche is strong but it is expensive and it rarely is worth trying to kill with it. Simultaneously, he can't afford huge energy outlays (avalanche needs them) and he also can't really build huge strength.
Enter: Tesla Nervos with Tesla Bank. Now, that is a three augment build with Biting Frost and Icy Avalanche, but you can still hit all your breakpoints for strength with creatice accounting. But now not only do you get blue moon orbs from archon flow, but you can also use archon stretch, and tesla nervos proc it constantly. Tesla Bank gets around 16m AoE and on frozen armor stripped enemies it doesn't matter that it does electric damage.
The only downside is they can be unreliable to hunt mid mission, but they synergize well with a team and keeping track of the little buddies is just fun. Magus anomaly does a lot to give them a bit of extra crowd gathering to really make that AoE blast shine.
archon flow rarely activates from frost like rarer then trying to get 100 shedu without trading
@@noahedenborg4221 Like I said it's not really worth trying but I have it on there anyways because the build needs flow and it can afford the slightly better one
@@Meguminimal what you mean slightly better one THEY ARE LITERALLY THE SAME THING
just like i said archon flow on frost rarely activates
@@noahedenborg4221 if one mod is 100% effective, and another mod is 100% effective but rarely throws you a bonus treat, that mod is slightly better
@@Meguminimal and it's like 1 in a billion plus it takes up 2/1 more capacity
Don’t drink every time he says suck,trust me it won’t end well
is this biuld still possible
Yes
And it covers more weapons than gorgon, angstrum and gamacor
How do you get Bitting Frost?
same way you get 99% of warframe augments
@noahedenborg4221 That's a very helpful comment, almost as helpful as the most generic answer I have ever gotten. And I quote "it is what it is". Really? I am sure it will never be "it is what is not"
Thanks for playing, next time do better.
@@jmlordoftherings u asked how do you get bititng frost even tho u seem to already know
@noahedenborg4221 When I asked I didn't know at all. It was an honest question.
Besides assuming the motives of someone asking a question tell more about you than me my friend.
@@jmlordoftherings u can literally jsut look it up
Well that’s just great now that there’s a vid on it its gonna get fix by DE
Only one small niggle, you should probably replace Ice Wave and not Snowball, so you can still pop bubbles if you need to with other people. Why would I bother to put up a bubble? Two reasons: 1) It unsticks enemies pretty reliably when they're caught. 2) Try it on any of the sentients on lua and laugh your ass off, just get right close to them and delete them with one button press.
Sadly this is the kind of stuff DE DOES Fix
Its a huge oversight and it changes the Augment completely
But honestly? Thats how the Augment should have ALWAYS worked
Ayo?
cool tech, but just shoot the Envoy instead and you'll have a much better time.
Only Projectiles, but Only these 3 weapons.
Yeah, absolutely a Glitch.
Almost feels akin to he way GalvanizedCO is mulitplicative on many (but not All) Projectiles.
The random inconsistencies really need fixing.
Turns out, its NOT just these 3 weapons
Envoy, phenmor, laetum, acceltra, bubonico, epitath charge shot and xoris are affected by this interaction (and many more that needs testing)
Nice try, but Frost still needs a rework. An ACTUAL rework, not just tweaks. Reason? 3 abilities are trash and the 4th is expensive and Frost has one of the shittiest energy reserves in the game.
You want full strip, and you need more energy pool and also want to use augments, and 1 of your modslots (or 2 of your shard slots) are sacrificed for casting speed.
Here's what I would want from a rework.
New passive: Either Biting Frost or some buff / CC from cold procs, similar to how Ember gets strength from nearby heat procs
1: Either change for a new ability entirely or just make it affect more enemies
2: Either add scaling damage and let range affect it similarly to Oberon's Hallowed Ground, or replace it with an entirely new ability
3: Make it scale better against higher level, either by making it duration based or by just simply scaling with enemy level or some scaling from enemies affected in cold procs.
Destroying the Globe with 1 should cause a radial knockdown affected by range
Any enemy staying in the globe more than 3 seconds (scales inversely with duration, more duration, less delay and vice versa) freezes for 5 seconds (scales with duration). Once the freeze expires, should damage enemies for x % of their health,
And most importantly, let friendly bullets and projectiles pass through, similar to Gara's 4
4. Increase the casting speed, make it cost 75 energy instead of 100
globe and ice wave arnt the worst bro plus he doesnt have the worst energy pool rhino has one that ive heard more complaints about
@@noahedenborg4221 Never saw someone advocating for less reworks and less buffs. That changed today.
@@proximityclockworkx1572 yeah because the frames that some people say need them dont and do what they are made to do frost being a defensive frame just like the cold dmg type plus frost just needs some smol tweaks like that garbage passive
@@noahedenborg4221 I'm sorry but you are making terrible points that aren't based on facts but opinion. Let's start with your comparison with Rhino's energy pool and him needing an increase more than Frost does and that Frost doesn't have the worst energy pool. In terms of prime Warframes where we expect improved stats, Ash, Frost and Rhino all have the lowest base energy pools in the game of 150 and when you consider the playstyle and role of each frame I would argue that Frost needs a bigger energy pool than Ash and Rhino since he's a caster/defense frame and at times has to spam his abilities.
When it comes to his abilities he clearly needs work doing to his kit, Frost hasn't had a rework since 2015. His snow globe isn't the worst but it clearly needs improvements to help it scale better into late game instead of having to spam cast every 4 seconds to abuse the invincibility period. It could also receive a QoL improvement in the form of allowing allies to shoot into/through the globe and the health of the snow globe being correctly displayed in the UI, it is currently very buggy in that regard. Ice wave needs to be reworked or replaced by something new because it is currently useless without the augment mod and even with that it brings little utility, the ability is that bad that it should be used as your helminth slot. His first ability also needs a rework because it only has the utility of destroying old snow globes that you no longer need. His 4th is fine but could do with a casting speed increase.
In your 2nd comment I do agree that his passive is garbage and should be replaced with the biting frost augment or something similar.
@@kjcenco true globe cocking is bad and shouldnt be a thing tho apperently ocucor tendrils ignore the globe
also i never had problems with energy on frost rhino ive just heard his energy pool is too low like open ur eyes
that's alot of suck
why all frames have like 1 useful ability and rest trash
most frames have a known for ability