I spent twelve years learning to attack pressure points using my chi. For some reason, the ufc won’t even let me attend an event because of the risk I pose when I cheer for one fighter or another. Do you remember when Kevin randleman fell backstage? Sorry about that, I sneezed.
Fun fact about Capoeira for those who don't know: The slaves who created it didn't want to get caught learning how to defend themselves, so they disguised it as a dance, which is why it looks so fluid and, well, dance-like
Yep its pretty cool fact . i heard that a couple years ago. I had heard it was more for hiding from the government not necessarily slaves and slave owners though
Yeah, the way the story goes it always seemed like a way of concealing training. Not like they intended to actually start to ginga when getting into a fight
@@ruger51995 not government, but rather the slave owner's thugs and escaped slaves hunters (we call them "capitães do mato"). It's quite old and it was created to be able to fight against them in case of a break/rebellion
I did Aikido when I was young, a lot of it depends on less skilled opponents attacking you in very predictable ways. My sensei was an 8th degree black belt that taught the RCMP and Canadian Border Guard. He said it was great for controlling a suspect, or getting people away from you so you could draw a weapon.
@@bobbyz9052 thank you for sharing this Bobby. Did you practice other martial arts? How did you realise that it wasn't as effective as advertised ? Sorry for all the questions, just curious :)
As an 8th degree blue belt in the mystic art of Chi Jitsu, I take great offense at being labeled as "useless". I have removed many squirrels from my property just by staring at them😳
When Chi showed up on the list, I was begging to see that clip of that woman getting bulldozed on the beach. Thank you MMA On Point for not letting us down!
😎 Believe you me, Chi is VERY real!! I've developed my own form of Chi. Its known as the "Lotus". I've developed it to the point where I don't even need to enter the octogan to defeat opponents! You can put Conor McGregor, Brock Lesnar and Anderson Silva inside the octagon at the same time, and ill defeat them ALL while standing outside in the parking lot! That's because I can launch my Lotus Chi from long range, without even looking directly at my opponents, just by thinking of them! In fact, right now, I just knocked out Chuck Liddell while sitting on my Barcalounger in my home here in Delaware! 😠
@@Akaya7777 imo the demos should show it slow and with a non-resisting opponent *first,* but then do it again, full speed, and on a resisting opponent. Maybe not tell the resisting opponent what moves are being demonstrated, and be blindfolded or something during the first slow demonstration of a technique on the other guy.
Exactly, also in turn the only correct one. Those other videos that bash every martial art because it's not a high level sport combat are a fucking joke.
@@Adam-zw1ck to be fair any most amateur martial artists would beat the daylights out of a krav maga practitioner and lord have mercy on any chi martial arts
@@jerrysmooth24 Yes, good luck to amateur MMA fighters taking on Israeli Special Forces (high level Krav Maga practictioners) Also you take the fight in its natural element. I will take a Krav Maga fighter or a Kajukenbo fighter over an MMA fighter of equal experience in a street fight any day. When you are trained to avoid things like groin strikes and eye strikes, going against a dirty street fighter (Kajukenbo) or a military member trained for people trying to kill them (Krav Maga) will cause you to lose things.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 “trained to avoid things like groin strikes and eye strikes” do you have any idea how hard it is to actually hit someone in the face who has good boxing and head movement have a look at this video ruclips.net/video/qSX0PCQXiO4/видео.html Now imagine trying to do that with a finger tip instead of a whole fist. Like literally put your finger in front of your eye and see how little you have to move your head to avoid it, head movement and coordination is infinitely more important here and a mma guy will be way more skilful at that. Same goes for leg kicks as well. If anything the mma guy can use these illegal moves better because they can actually place their shots more accurately and have better strike coordination
@@samr4831 Eye strikes aren't just using your fingertips to target someone's eyes. If you think eye strikes and eye pokes are the same thing, you are an idiot. Eye strikes are open handed face strikes at certain angles from certain hand positions. Also, the average amateur (and plenty of professional) MMA Fighters don't have world class head movement like boxers, hence why they get their asses kicked when they try boxing (see Mark Hunt and Conor McGregor). Boxers tend to do poorly in MMA as well. It is is a different skillset. Finally, just to contrast, an MMA fighter trained in wrestling, Muy Thai, and Brazilian Ju Jitsu (i.e. the standard well rounded MMA Fighter) is inherently disadvantaged to someone trained in a fighting style that blends those and is also trained to deliberately go for permanent damage moves when you are in a fight with no rules, no referee, and no ring/cage (which is how Kajukenbo and Krav Maga work). MMA fighters aren't trained for street fights, they aren't trained for taking on multiple opponents. They are trained for one thing, winning at a sport.
I like how unlike some videos this one acknowledges that rules in mma prevent certain techniques and systems from being effective. Especially because your not allowed to kill you opponent or do damage to certain areas.
The thing is martial arts that claim to be "too dangerous" overestime their ability to use those dangerous techniques, well, because they never actually used them. They practiced those techniques the same way they practiced the other useless stuff, without challenging them against non compliant partners. An MMA guy would be more effective at gouging, hooking, groin punching or any other dirty fighting than those "dangerous" martial artists simply because they know how to fight and create opportunities for such moves. Most of them are essentially impossible outside of grappling anyway, trying to strike someones eyes out with your fingers is a great way to break them.
@@janapewen362 Are we talking about the practitioners or the martial art itself? Because if it's strictly about the martial art then logically mma + groin strikes > mma. Almost no one is going to seriously practice that instead of mma so the practioners of mma will be much better fighters but the martial art is still theoretically superior. Also there's no need to put "dangerous" in quotes... I understand you dislike those martial arts but it's pretty accurate to say that they aren't practiced because they are too dangerous.
@@DIVAD291 I am criticising the martial arts and their interperations of dangerous techniques. Eye gouges and groin punches ofcourse are effective, but practicing martial arts that claim to be "too dangerous" does not increase your ability to use those techniques effectively. I am using quotes because sparring those techniques may be dangerous, but the martial art itself sure isn't more "dangerous" meaning "able to inflict damage effectively", but I get where you are coming from.
@@janapewen362 Yep, a lot of people learning Krav Maga seems to think they can fight toe to toe against seasoned professional or even amateur fighters. You are probably only good against non-fighters, which is easily more than 95% of people, so Krav Maga is indeed useful in this regard. It is more like survival technique rather than martial arts, so when your skill is only Krav Maga and you are facing an actual fighter, then running away while constantly looking for cheap shot opportunities is probably the best technique.
@@janapewen362 yeah, also, if an mma fighter punched hard or long enough... you're dead, easliy. If there weren't any rules against killing your opponent then just punching them as hard as you can in the head or choking them to death would still be very viable strategies. An mma fighters martial arts are incredibly dangerous, otherwise there wouldn't be rules against killing your oppnents.
I have to say, this video was fantastic. I thought it would be a mildly amusing roast of fake martial arts, but you went in depth about the merits of aspects of each and their fundamental shortcomings in competitive fighting, treating each one with respect. I was thoroughly impressed.
Yea I actually like it when there’s a video about martial arts that has respect. Like a newcomer couldn’t know about style is the best and later figured out they wasted their time
What it missing is archery & swordfighting. Archery would be a bit hit-and-miss (sorry), but double-handed short-sword techniques would seem viable; a karambit would be devastatingly effective.
@@choppedmonkey2654 actually just looked it up, and he really did say that. That’s why he moved away from teaching a certain style and started training what he thought was most effective in a real fight
So in conclusion, some martial arts work better in an actual combat scenario, some were never meant to be used in an MMA environment, and then there's the martial arts which are just fucking magic.
@@allgonoemo4217 true but it's not even martial arts its more like free form street fighting and warfare tactics with technique sprinkled in to get you into a more favorable outcome as it's made for soilders at the end of the day who might run into a close quarters knife fight or a gun pointed at there head not my favorite fighting system but even I have to admit a lot of those moves are terrifying when done by someone strong and fast
Biggest problem for Sumo is just how limited it is in an MMA environment, beyond just the stamina, the entire purpose of Sumo is to force the opponent to either step outside the dohyo or touch the ground with part of the body other than the feet. Striking is limited, and the ground game is non existent as the fight is already over when somebody touches the ground in sumo. It is at its core a beautiful and surprisingly complex and intriguing martial art to watch... but its standing on ceremony and a very wilfully restricted, pure ruleset means that huge parts of the MMA game are simply not possible to learn in sumo, and because professional sumo means regulating entire sections of your life, you're also not able to train elements of combat outside of sumo during that time either.
Another factor is how being an overweight athlete wears down your body. Akebono was a Yokozuna (grand champion) and never fought in MMA or K-1 in his athletic prime... he only dabbled in it b/c his real calling, Sumo, wasn't realistic for him anymore. It's safe to say that Akebono, Emmanuel Yarbough, Teili Tuli, etc. were all worn down from years of 'weight training' and wern't at their best trying MMA.
Exactly. Any rikishi would obviously be completely lost on the ground considering the entire point is to stay upright and on the dohyo. Where many is Grand Ozumo come up as judoka, and can grapple and throw on their feet, once they lose their balance and go down they’ve already mentally lost…unless it’s Asashoryu. I would put a prime Asashoryu against anyone anywhere anytime 🤷🏻♂️. Hakuho’s a beast himself. Many modern guys like Ishiura and Kotoeko are stacked little muscle men. Not all rikishi are morbidly obese.
As a former practitioner of Aikido... Yes 100%, any MMA fighter would destroy an Aikido master. It's mostly spiritual and a form of thinking. It doesn't translate to reality very well at all
You're a practitioner not a master. Real martial artists don't fight in the ring. Martial arts is made for defense not offense. MMA has rules. In real life your eyes, gorin etc are not saved by the rulebook.
Bruce Lee is the Godfather of MMA. He was one of the first martial artists to study a different martial art from his primary one (considered a huge no-no back in the day). He was also the first to make martial arts films that were less fantasy (eg. fighting in mid-air), and made it look more realistic. This also inspired future action films as well.
Bruce Lee never participated in any tournament. He has absolutely zero credibility either as a fighter or as an instructor. There is barely even one recording of the guy actually fighting. What's amazing is that so many people assume that he was an amazing fighter without any evidence apart from his own claims.
A pretty legitimate list. I applaud you for not attacking Taekwondo or Karate like too many mma people do. No, by themselves they are not well suited for mma, but they are legitimate and are a part of most mma fighters repertoire.
You could say the same for boxing, muay Thai etc. The difference is that karate and taekwondo you can't be powerful in kumite which makes them scrutinised a lot
I know right. So refreshing to see a list where Taekwondo doesn't get trash talked for once. Most people still respect karate though, but TKD constantly gets bullied and laughed at within the martial arts community, even though it's as legit as any other MA (not counting McDojo's of course). It's gotten so bad that even TKD pracritioners trashtalk their own art.
Glad to see Karate not getting trashed. I’ve trained in Wado Ryu Karate for quite a few years. It’s kind of it’s own mixed martial arts, abit of jiujutsu in there, throws, striking etc. Like Sensei Miyagi said, best defence, no be there 😂
It simply wouldn't be possible to trash karate in MMA, considering how well Machida, Wonderboy, MVP and others have done with it. And we've seen Pettis, Yair, Rose, Barboza and others win fights with taekwondo kicks. Bas Rutten incorporated both effectively into his style for years.
There is at least one *Joe Son Do* student who had made it into PRIDE & the UFC; the legendary Kimo Leopoldo. That's more than what even the greatest masters of Kyusho Jitsu can claim.
Correction: It's only been recent that we've *rediscovered* a lot of this stuff. The martial arts of the past were much more comprehensive systems than they were 100 years ago. Schools that by 1900 were only teaching judo were teaching not just today's "mixed martial arts" but also weapon skills like the spear and sword. Today's martial arts can only be "mixed" because the arts of the past were separated. But even in 1900, there were things like Bartitsu, which despite its silly nature was actually a real combat style that combined jujutsu, boxing, and cane fighting (as canes were a common implement of the time). Just look at what's happened to TKD over the last 40 or 50 years. It went from a well-rounded system of striking and grappling to kick-fencing. Tai Chi's silly arm circles used to be things like ankle picks and leg sweeps. MMA isn't a mixed martial art, its a complete martial art, like TKD, Jujutsu, and Karate used to be.
Yknow if youre talking about japanese ju jitsu its still all rounded. Striking, Blocking, Throwing, Pressure points, Joint manipulation, Ground fighting, Grappling, Standing and ground locks, Finishers even Defense against moved you learn on lower belts.
I went to a local pro wrestling show a few years back. One of the wrestlers was dressed like Luigi from Mario Bros, and he literally did a spinning uppercut on his opponent and shouted "SHORYUKEN". Pro wrestling is the realest martial art.
All the force from the uppercut would be lost from the jumping unless they get hit while their still grounded, so it's making an uppercut which already works, not work. It's why you don't "Tiger Uppercuts" in Muay Thai either.
@@jamestoney6599 the key would be landing the uppercut just before the actual jump in the technique, that way you're imparting all the force from the jump into the uppercut.
@@steelforge6637 They teach moves that are very unrealistic to execute. The situations they explain don't happen in real fights. It's known in the Martial Arts world as "MMA for Dummies" edition
Thanks for still being respectful. Some practitioners of these arts do it for the tradition and artistry. It's not always about fighting nowadays. Cheers!
Those are the same people saying "I'd just do A, B and C" always trying to make their martial art out to be a goddamn nuclear weapon they alone have to power to unleash.
Between the presentation, editing and information this is one of the best list videos I've seen on this channel, and they normally make fantastic content.
@@MrCmon113 wasn't Asbel Cancio at UFC 5 supposed to be a Wing Chun master? All I remember is Dave Beneteau shooting the most basic wrestling double-leg on Cancio before bashing his face in (while the referee just stood there and watched).
As the wise Master Ken of Ameri-do-te (the only true martial art, and far too lethal for MMA) once said "if you grip it hard enough, it can't cut you".
While I would almost never recommend grabbing an opponent's blade if you know what you're doing you can hold an extremely sharp blade just fine. In HEMA half swording is a technique which involves holding a sharp blade. There are also grappling techniques that involve grabbing the blade of an opponent's sword/knife/dagger and while it is possible to mess up and cut your hand it's worthwhile if it allows you to win.
@@saudade7842 there is a big difference between holding your own blade and holding a blade, whose handle is held by someone else... The proportion of the item itself handle vs blade allows use of leverages which will fk u up... Trying to grab the blade of the enemy is insane. Unless of course you are ready to sacrifice your arm and hope the blade will be stuck there giving you like 2 extra seconds to do something? But it really doesn't matter, if you are unlucky enough to face someone who is trained with knives, be prapaired to face around 12 stabs in a second (each stab is also a cut) It's difficult to catch the blade, if you can't even see it
@@zyfryth I know. I was just saying that I have read manuscripts that mention grabbing an opponent's blade during some grappling scenarios. It is highly situational and in most cases probably not worth the risk, especially if untrained.
They used him in the thumbnail, but I thought jumping into the air in slow motion and throwing a sweaty spinning kick while making a weird face and weird noises with 80s music playing would be questionable in mma.
@Pietro Guimarães Videos of what? Guys getting flipped by masters with clearly fake throws? It all looks fake and if you disagree send me one of these videos.
10. Kung fu: too old 9. Krav Maga: just practicing what you see on TV at home 8. Jeet Kuhn do: you’re not Bruce Lee 7. Wing chun: too predictable 6. Capoeira: if you’re an android you could probably do this but you’re not. 5. Akido: there’s a reason even Segal is considered a master. 4. Sumo: big and strong but slow 3. systema: it’s a Russian martial art so of course it doesn’t work 2. Kyusho jitsu: you’re not in Naruto 1. Chi: you’re 6 and love dragon ball
About the Jeet Kune Do part, I remember Frank Shamrock cited Jeet Kune Do as one of the systems he practiced. Also Bruce Lee died when he was still experimenting with his training including the use of submission holds.
That's the beauty of Bruce Lee, he was always learning and adding to Jeet Kune Do. The style alone might not be the best for MMA, but many UFC fighters believe that Bruce Lee himself would exhale in the sport. Like if I learned Jeet Kune Do and trying MMA I would very likely get killed, where Lee, a master and creator of the art would succussed.
@@ruger51995 Right lol. I'm pretty sure I've seen John Jones launch himself in the air and and try to viciously side kick someone's knee like a total sadist but maybe I'm dreamin
maybe its my context being wrong, but i believed that side kicks were ones which are launched with my back being perpendicular to the opponent´s torso (or superhero helpers)
Oblique kicks are frontal kicks to the knee. Your body is not turned sideways when you do it. Oblique kicks are seriously dangerous, sidekicks are meme territory.
@@bradleydolphin1049 I think he helped him with that face kick he landed on Vitor. Having said that I am pretty sure 99% of Anderson Silva's skills didnt come from Seagal.
Capoeira forces you to develop a keen eye for reading your opponent's movement. Foreigners may get to see the dancing part more often than the "roda" (or "the circle") aspect of it. Capoeiristas (practitioners of capoeira) are encouraged to step in the roda against an opponent that he doesn't know, with very little to no rules besides "use capoeira". (Fun fact: capoeira as a whole where prohibited in Brazil in the 1930's because those rodas usually take place in the streets and ended up in full blown gang fights among the gyms at site) It's a martial art so focused in "get smart, get good" that, in order to get a leveled up "cordão" (capoeira's belt) a capoerista have to fight an experienced capoeirista and the fight only stops when he gets leg swept and take the fall. Capoeira is a street wise martial art. So, if you see capoeira moves landing in caged fights, probably it came out of nowhere or as a form of taunting.
This is a special video. It's the only one I've seen where each aspect is treated with respect. Thank you for clarifying so well why even arts that aren't that great in context still add something to the context.
I believe Jeet Kune Do is the most effective one. It is like MMA only without restrictions. It is to create your own style from many other styles. Keep the useful things and forget the useless things.
So from what I'm seeing, several of the styles on this list are not good in MMA.... because they're outdated. I think this especially applies to Jeet Kune Do- a style (that's not really a style) that was never fully developed because its pioneer died prematurely.
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 Well even Inosanto basically transformed it from an idea of looking for what works best into a business of just throwing what was fashionable at the time. Had Bruce Lee been alive he’d be combining Muay Thai, boxing, and BJJ as the core of this version. The problem with JKD is it not being an art or style means you’re essentially on a personal journey. And most people don’t have the drive and dedication to do that, they need predigested steps.
This is funny, one of the biggest channels in italy about boxing created the term "Krav Mages" to idnicate all the people that practice those fake martial arts (you know, the scammy ones where you see people beting tens of opponent by weaving their hands)
@Sak Attack if you actually think that wrestling is better then krav maga then ma dude you don't even know what you're talking about . Krav maga is not about defending yourself it's about how fast you can kill someone and moove to the other .
@Sak Attack again it shows how ignorant you are no insult intended. Do your research on something before insulting it who knows you might wanna try it ( and btw krav maga is used by the mosad israelian special forces and other countries military including spetsnaz and the us military and navy)
Sumo wouldn't work in MMA, but if you get the chance to go to a Sumo tournament, definitely take it. It's truly awe inspiring seeing two mountains of humanity rush at each other full power. The volume of the slaps needs to be heard in person to be appreciated. Truly one of the most amazing sporting events that one can see.
I practiced Wing Chun for a few years, just before UFC became a thing. It was back when you could say "we don't need full contact sparring. Just remember these techniques and no one can hit you." :D
BJJ,Wrestling,Muay Thai,Kickboxing,Boxing, Sambo if you can find a proper coach, TKD, whatever the fuck Zabit does(Sanda). I know this is not 10 and there are probably many more that could be used in MMA effectively but these disciplines have been the MMA meta for pretty much 20 years with Sambo and Sanda coming up in the late 2010´s.
@@zavodszkiabel7919 TKD is kinda scetchy they have some good techniques but if you'd only train TKD you will get murked in a mma match, where the others that you named would perform way better. I think some forms of karate (where they do full contact sparring) would work better then pure TKD.
@@meesert Oh shit, I wanted to list Kyokushin Karete too, but to be fair you can absolutely get your shit blasted if you go against an opponent of the same level with only a singular martial art, altough it´s in the favor of grapplers, there´s a high possibility of getting KTFO´d if you don´t know striking at all, same goes for strikers getting taken down and submitted or turned into mince meat.
Well, about Chinese kung fu, I have learnt that most of it has disappeared over time, the real practical kung fu is not practised in many institutions and fake kungfu such as chi are practised.However, there are other very practical martial arts of china such as Shaolin Kung fu and Bai jin quan.
As a former highschool wrestler there are defenses to a double leg take down I presenting: the sprawl. Although it is true sprawling could potentially hurt you if you get tricked into it in MMA but also if have quick knees that is another option
And what styles of Kung fu is he talking about?! If it's the styles of the "Masters" who got beat up by that MMA guy in China then I agree! If it is an actually GOOD style, then that could be a different story!
I feel like Jeet Kune Do shouldn't be on this list because the philosophy had certain concepts that would later be adopted by mma, like the oblique kick. And also the philopshy seems to have influenced mma go an extent with it's focus of being well rounded rather than just keeping yourself to a single style
For me Jeet Kun Do is more of a system of martial philosophy than a system of martial art, and it should be treated and practised as such. The problem is, people, even its own disciples, aren't applying the thinking of Bruce Lee, which is to learn any technique from any style that suit you. Instead they're a bunch of Bruce Lee copycats, using the same techniques and approaches of Lee, even if those are selected techniques that Bruce Lee assembled for him and him only. The beauty of Jeet Kun Do was lost right after the moment Bruce Lee died
Yeah, pretty much Bruce Lee was taking things from other martial arts that he thought were useful. So, if he were around today, he probably would've loved MMA. I've made some videos about martial arts on my channel. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾
I suppose Eddie Hall should get credit whenever someone drinks, because he tells people to stay hydrated... What's actually practiced in Jeet Kune Do doesn't work. And for all we know the founder wasn't even a skilled fighter.
as i said it is more like system for military how to be chill in pressure and some shit is good ..same as krav maga which is just system how to be agressive..
I guess Combat Sambo is one of the most Complete Fighting Systems. It includes Punches, Kicks, Elbows, Knees, Head Butts, Groin Strikes, Clinching, Throwing, Wrestling and Submissions and since they are wearing a Gi they are able to use the whole spectrum of GI and No-GI throws and Submissions. So you have to basically master every Aspect of Fighting in this discipline.
Just gonna say, thank you dude. I appreciate that you didn't completely dismiss a lot of these Martial Arts, like Capoeira, Aikido, and Kung Fu/Chinsese Martial Arts in general. While they may not be effective in a ring fight, they are effective in certain situations, or for different purposes. Tai-Chi is great for your health, for breath control, and for meditation purposes. And aspects of it can be used in other martial arts as a supplement, however, anybody that thinks that they can expel Qi from their bodies is unfortunately delusional. Qi is breath...breath is life, and the only place you can expel Qi from, really, is the mouth and nose. Qi (or Chi) is a very old Chinese spiritual/philosophical concept, used notably in Taoist practice, through meditation and ritual. People twist a very old, and surprisingly grounded Spitual concept (in regards to how some spiritual ideas are) into something that would be better suited to Fantasy, or Sci-fi. Qi is not the Force, no matter how much you hope it is...unfortunate, because little kid me really super hoped it was. But, as an adult, I'm happy with knowing that what I practice, even if I am a novice, is something that can bring some inner peace to me. I hope I can get a proper trainer someday, but until then I'm happy reading and practicing on my own.
@@MrCmon113 Its both. Many different practices regard Breath as being a huge focal point for spiritual practices. In western occult, it maybe called Astral Light. In Hinduism and Buddhism, its sometimes called Prana. In all versions, breath is considered important as a vehicle for carrying that sacred energy. Again, if you'd actually read the original post thoroughly you'd probably understand that, but instead you're looking for something that's not there (I.E. the ability to inflict great harm through Qi, or looking for another way to discredit, simply due to a pre-conceived notion of falsehood.) You don't have to believe in it, if you don't want too, no one will ever force you. However, I have experienced its usefulness in my own life through meditation and cultivating practices, and under the different practices and names it goes by in other cultures and faiths. So I simply ask for respect to practice those beliefs, as I respect yours or another's lack of belief. Strength is found in both paths, I genuinely believe. It's only when we kill our open mindedness is when fail as humans.
You already said it at the beginning of the JKD section. It's not a martial arts system, just a philosophy of not being constrained by martial arts systems. That is a common approach to modern MMA combat.
I've been practicing Aikido for 24 years (and teaching for 13) and I have to say this video is spot on. In reality a lot of the techniques won't work the way they are taught or practiced in most dojos. Anybody that is decent at striking or ground work will make short work of someone relying on just Aikido. It's just not what we've been trained to deal with. Training to fight in a ring is completely different from training to defend yourself from the average idiot in the street. There's also a mentality to fighting that many people (not just in aikido) just don't have.
But it looks fancy. But like in Jeet Kune Do, forget the useless things and keep the useful things. That is why Jeet Kune Do is the best of all. It is not a specific style. It is your own style once you practiced many arts.
Great video. I love that you guys maintained respect for the traditional martial arts and not bashing them like the fraud arts at the top of the list. People bash traditional martial arts because it doesnt work in high level mma, but a black belt in any of those arts would still beat any youtube commenters ass
Great video! I appreciate that you were respectful of the legitimate arts that you covered despite their lack of modernity and usefulness in mma competition.
@Michael Terrell II He does do really well I'll give him that. But there's such a huge difference in Silva's effectiveness when he's doing that compared to when he just boxes his ass off or when he's like a slick kickboxer
@Michael Terrell II knocking other styles is a wrong thing to do? What about the fake ones? And if wing chun was effective it would be used. It’s literally that simple. Critical thinking is not a wrong thing to do, criticism is not a wrong thing to do. Don’t be a child
@@NeverSpeak6 a practioner of wing chun would beat the shit out of most average people including you. Acting like all regular people are on the verge of joining the ufc 🤣🤣
@@Adam-zw1ck A practitioner of wing chun would and has gotten fucked up by me. 5 years of jiu jitsu, boxing, and Muay Thai. I’m not average, little one. I know you’re gonna roll this off as keyboard warrior shit but I could give a fuck less. Wing chun is good against wing chun. They have a rule set and if you don’t obey their rules they can’t do Jack shit.
Another fun fact. Bruce Lee had one leg that was shorter, hense the south paw stance. So he was true to form in his style no style philosophy. He really did do what worked best, for him. So I would say that's exactly what an mma fighter should do.
Guess it goes without saying but all weapon based martial arts are essentially useless in MMA (fencing, kendo , wushu). Maaaaybe some footwork but that's about it.
Yes but sumo is really not good in mma because the rounds most of the time go up to not even 10 seconds. The techniques are not made for knocking someone unconscious rather push them out the ring or to the ground and if a sumo ringer us on the ground he is helpless because this would be normally the end for him
>Krav Maga: Teaches attacks to the eyes
*Jon Jones would like to know your location*
Jon Jones and Stipe are already champions so Krav Maga should be #1 position.
@@EatMyShortsAU and figuieredo
@@EatMyShortsAU DC THE POKEUHANDOUTS
@@EatMyShortsAU Don't talk about St. Stipe, he could do no wrong. But Gustufsson is the king of eye pokes.
Daniel Cormier was the biggest krav maga representative in MMA.
Using magic moves isn't allowed in the UFC because it would be Chi-ting
This comment sir, is definitely underrated
This comment is God! 🤣
CARLOS!
Fartoeira will destroy MMA sissies
Chi-ting....fucking hilarious 🤣
Krav Maga's entire MO is based on punching people in the dick. Literally every drill: "Punch your opponent in the balls!"
Ameridote shares allot of similarities with Krav Maga.
ruclips.net/video/gyXhysmMNhE/видео.html
Balls, eyes, nose, throat. It's not a Martial Art for cage fighting, it's designed to sent 1 hit and GTFO.
@@orsivan5731 no it's not, it's one of the most fake "martial arts"
@@Lordradost Always re-stomp the groin. ;)
Sounds like something Bobby Hill would take.
THATS MY PURSE! I DON'T KNOW YOU!
I spent twelve years learning to attack pressure points using my chi. For some reason, the ufc won’t even let me attend an event because of the risk I pose when I cheer for one fighter or another. Do you remember when Kevin randleman fell backstage? Sorry about that, I sneezed.
This is primo copypasta material. Take my like 😂
@Jirbanon I can only claim one of those. I hugged my khabib plush doll too tight and hurt his rib
@@lt.pickles6383 😭
Did you punch the black out of mike perry
Artem is that you?
Fun fact about Capoeira for those who don't know: The slaves who created it didn't want to get caught learning how to defend themselves, so they disguised it as a dance, which is why it looks so fluid and, well, dance-like
Yep its pretty cool fact . i heard that a couple years ago. I had heard it was more for hiding from the government not necessarily slaves and slave owners though
casa grande e senzala
Yeah, the way the story goes it always seemed like a way of concealing training. Not like they intended to actually start to ginga when getting into a fight
@@ruger51995 not government, but rather the slave owner's thugs and escaped slaves hunters (we call them "capitães do mato").
It's quite old and it was created to be able to fight against them in case of a break/rebellion
Still a garbage martial art
Somehow, AIkido "masters" only seem to be effective against their own students.
The only thing Steven Seagal can destroy is a buffet line.
Same goes with everything on this list expect Kung fu
@@kingbaby8761 Aikido is amazing for smashing meals!
I did Aikido when I was young, a lot of it depends on less skilled opponents attacking you in very predictable ways. My sensei was an 8th degree black belt that taught the RCMP and Canadian Border Guard. He said it was great for controlling a suspect, or getting people away from you so you could draw a weapon.
@@bobbyz9052 thank you for sharing this Bobby. Did you practice other martial arts? How did you realise that it wasn't as effective as advertised ? Sorry for all the questions, just curious :)
As an 8th degree blue belt in the mystic art of Chi Jitsu, I take great offense at being labeled as "useless". I have removed many squirrels from my property just by staring at them😳
😂😂
8th degree blue belt! hahahaha
@@Nswix every comment section has that guy huh smh
But can you kill a goat by staring at it? That’s the real test!
You are my hero. 😁
When Chi showed up on the list, I was begging to see that clip of that woman getting bulldozed on the beach. Thank you MMA On Point for not letting us down!
I love it
This has been the first time I´ve seen it. I wasnt ready.
@@gonzapra1 neither was she
Best quote ever comes at the end “where the f**k were you guys”
I hate seeing that clip. But its important to show it to demonstrate that by following fake martial arts people can get hurt.
I like how dude just said "screw it, I am not going to go through each of them, just gonna call them 'chi martial arts' and be done with it"
she forgot to say hadoken!!!!!
If he listed all of them, the entire thing would be just the chi stuff
The best part is right after he hits her. He looks, realizes she’s hurt then pretends it actually worked. Probably to avoid a law suit.
@@coandc I saw that. kkkk
😎 Believe you me, Chi is VERY real!! I've developed my own form of Chi. Its known as the "Lotus". I've developed it to the point where I don't even need to enter the octogan to defeat opponents! You can put Conor McGregor, Brock Lesnar and Anderson Silva inside the octagon at the same time, and ill defeat them ALL while standing outside in the parking lot! That's because I can launch my Lotus Chi from long range, without even looking directly at my opponents, just by thinking of them!
In fact, right now, I just knocked out Chuck Liddell while sitting on my Barcalounger in my home here in Delaware! 😠
You can always say “you attacked me wrong” when ur style doesn’t work.
Gotten me out of a few jams.
He had his tongue in a certain way so he nullified it. Oh gosh I probably shouldn't be saying this.
@@zionmeza5727 Or he raised one toe and pushed another one down.
Jim Carrey Karate instructor skit? :D
you have to grab my left elbow and my right pinky at the same time for it to work
@@NDOhioan PLUS
Phenomenal job done by the narrator in succeeding not to say the words "bullshit", "crap", "stupid" and "useless". Especially as we approach number 1.
When I see a middle aged, dad bod "master", I'm suddenly very cynical.
Javier Mendez
*Tyson Fury would like to know your location.*
Dc roy nelson andy ruiz etc
Meanhwile fedod read your coment
Sammo Hung: bruh
I like how in every martial arts demonstration the attacker freezes as soon as the defender begins their counter action.
Yeah that's usually how demonstrations work....
Thats because they have to do it slow enough where people can understand. It would be stupid to try and teach a technique at full speed.
@@Akaya7777 imo the demos should show it slow and with a non-resisting opponent *first,* but then do it again, full speed, and on a resisting opponent.
Maybe not tell the resisting opponent what moves are being demonstrated, and be blindfolded or something during the first slow demonstration of a technique on the other guy.
@@Akaya7777 well i mean, its stupid to teach techniques that are completely imaginary and dont work in real life scenarios either but lol ok
@@C_The_Guy of course thats stupid, where did I say teaching defense moves that don’t work isn’t stupid? Not sure what you’re trying to argue.
This is probably the most respectful top 10 worst martial arts list I’ve ever seen
Exactly, also in turn the only correct one. Those other videos that bash every martial art because it's not a high level sport combat are a fucking joke.
@@Adam-zw1ck to be fair any most amateur martial artists would beat the daylights out of a krav maga practitioner and lord have mercy on any chi martial arts
@@jerrysmooth24 Yes, good luck to amateur MMA fighters taking on Israeli Special Forces (high level Krav Maga practictioners)
Also you take the fight in its natural element. I will take a Krav Maga fighter or a Kajukenbo fighter over an MMA fighter of equal experience in a street fight any day. When you are trained to avoid things like groin strikes and eye strikes, going against a dirty street fighter (Kajukenbo) or a military member trained for people trying to kill them (Krav Maga) will cause you to lose things.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 “trained to avoid things like groin strikes and eye strikes” do you have any idea how hard it is to actually hit someone in the face who has good boxing and head movement have a look at this video ruclips.net/video/qSX0PCQXiO4/видео.html
Now imagine trying to do that with a finger tip instead of a whole fist. Like literally put your finger in front of your eye and see how little you have to move your head to avoid it, head movement and coordination is infinitely more important here and a mma guy will be way more skilful at that. Same goes for leg kicks as well. If anything the mma guy can use these illegal moves better because they can actually place their shots more accurately and have better strike coordination
@@samr4831 Eye strikes aren't just using your fingertips to target someone's eyes. If you think eye strikes and eye pokes are the same thing, you are an idiot.
Eye strikes are open handed face strikes at certain angles from certain hand positions. Also, the average amateur (and plenty of professional) MMA Fighters don't have world class head movement like boxers, hence why they get their asses kicked when they try boxing (see Mark Hunt and Conor McGregor). Boxers tend to do poorly in MMA as well. It is is a different skillset.
Finally, just to contrast, an MMA fighter trained in wrestling, Muy Thai, and Brazilian Ju Jitsu (i.e. the standard well rounded MMA Fighter) is inherently disadvantaged to someone trained in a fighting style that blends those and is also trained to deliberately go for permanent damage moves when you are in a fight with no rules, no referee, and no ring/cage (which is how Kajukenbo and Krav Maga work).
MMA fighters aren't trained for street fights, they aren't trained for taking on multiple opponents. They are trained for one thing, winning at a sport.
I've always viewed jkd as the philosophy of making your own fighting style after learning many types
Bruce Lee wanted you to create your own unique JKD
@@Egg_of_the_King JKD is trash as a martial art though and anyone who practices it exclusively will get their ass beat in MMA including Bruce Lee.
I agree the stance of jet kune do, look at all top fighters have it. Muhammad Ali, Floyd, Jon Jones, Silva, etc
@@justinkylewest4095 kumaro usman uses jkd so stfu 💀
Pretty much MMA
This channel literally brought me into mma, thank you so much
Same here!
same here!
I recommend The Modern Martial Artist, and MMA World as well.
But if you like lazy listicles, this is a pretty good channel
@@DarranKern I lovve the mordern martial artist
Me too
Really disappointed that you didn't include slapoeira, Russian slapping martial arts
Diaz brothers say hold my joint,
Lol, that's the first time I've heard this particular way of calling it.
Vasily The Godhand is basically their version of Bruce Lee
He didnt beacause they work
The disrespect !!!😝
I like how unlike some videos this one acknowledges that rules in mma prevent certain techniques and systems from being effective. Especially because your not allowed to kill you opponent or do damage to certain areas.
The thing is martial arts that claim to be "too dangerous" overestime their ability to use those dangerous techniques, well, because they never actually used them. They practiced those techniques the same way they practiced the other useless stuff, without challenging them against non compliant partners. An MMA guy would be more effective at gouging, hooking, groin punching or any other dirty fighting than those "dangerous" martial artists simply because they know how to fight and create opportunities for such moves. Most of them are essentially impossible outside of grappling anyway, trying to strike someones eyes out with your fingers is a great way to break them.
@@janapewen362 Are we talking about the practitioners or the martial art itself?
Because if it's strictly about the martial art then logically mma + groin strikes > mma. Almost no one is going to seriously practice that instead of mma so the practioners of mma will be much better fighters but the martial art is still theoretically superior.
Also there's no need to put "dangerous" in quotes... I understand you dislike those martial arts but it's pretty accurate to say that they aren't practiced because they are too dangerous.
@@DIVAD291 I am criticising the martial arts and their interperations of dangerous techniques. Eye gouges and groin punches ofcourse are effective, but practicing martial arts that claim to be "too dangerous" does not increase your ability to use those techniques effectively. I am using quotes because sparring those techniques may be dangerous, but the martial art itself sure isn't more "dangerous" meaning "able to inflict damage effectively", but I get where you are coming from.
@@janapewen362 Yep, a lot of people learning Krav Maga seems to think they can fight toe to toe against seasoned professional or even amateur fighters. You are probably only good against non-fighters, which is easily more than 95% of people, so Krav Maga is indeed useful in this regard. It is more like survival technique rather than martial arts, so when your skill is only Krav Maga and you are facing an actual fighter, then running away while constantly looking for cheap shot opportunities is probably the best technique.
@@janapewen362 yeah, also, if an mma fighter punched hard or long enough... you're dead, easliy. If there weren't any rules against killing your opponent then just punching them as hard as you can in the head or choking them to death would still be very viable strategies. An mma fighters martial arts are incredibly dangerous, otherwise there wouldn't be rules against killing your oppnents.
I have to say, this video was fantastic. I thought it would be a mildly amusing roast of fake martial arts, but you went in depth about the merits of aspects of each and their fundamental shortcomings in competitive fighting, treating each one with respect. I was thoroughly impressed.
Yeah, he treats everyone with respect, except the number 1 on the list. Strange ...
Yea I actually like it when there’s a video about martial arts that has respect. Like a newcomer couldn’t know about style is the best and later figured out they wasted their time
@@Dunderslag hey dummy. he said the breathing techniques had value
@@jamesfreeman6946 Do u think jedi and meditation have anything in common, except for the name?
@@wylfo tf are u talking about?
This went from kind of legit to mcdojo real quick.
Bullshido
Fear the mcflurry of punches
What it missing is archery & swordfighting. Archery would be a bit hit-and-miss (sorry), but double-handed short-sword techniques would seem viable; a karambit would be devastatingly effective.
"Just train Boxing and wrestling for 1 year, you could defeat any kung fu master in China" - Bruce Lee.
Not a real quote
Yeah I missed some of the words but. Bruce lee really said that.
@@choppedmonkey2654 “Get a thicc bitch that will steal your soul” - Shang Tsung
@@alop9535 God I wish
@@choppedmonkey2654 actually just looked it up, and he really did say that. That’s why he moved away from teaching a certain style and started training what he thought was most effective in a real fight
“and I taught DC how to wrestle” - Steven Seagal
And anderson silva how to kick
"teach me your deadly stuff"
Cormier-kun calls Steven 'Sensei' or 'Shihan'
lol You serious? he said that?
@@pedro90 im not sure about the wrestling part but he did say he taught silva How to kick 😂😂
So in conclusion, some martial arts work better in an actual combat scenario, some were never meant to be used in an MMA environment, and then there's the martial arts which are just fucking magic.
Not magic, they don't exist. Instead just call it ludicrous.
Legit Krav Maga taught to actual soldiers also involves them finishing the fight with a fucking gun
@@allgonoemo4217 true but it's not even martial arts its more like free form street fighting and warfare tactics with technique sprinkled in to get you into a more favorable outcome as it's made for soilders at the end of the day who might run into a close quarters knife fight or a gun pointed at there head not my favorite fighting system but even I have to admit a lot of those moves are terrifying when done by someone strong and fast
Some give you the ability to kill a man in combat, some give you the ability to win in the octagon and some give you a degree in interpretive dance.
@@zoarmhirr2964 magic
Biggest problem for Sumo is just how limited it is in an MMA environment, beyond just the stamina, the entire purpose of Sumo is to force the opponent to either step outside the dohyo or touch the ground with part of the body other than the feet. Striking is limited, and the ground game is non existent as the fight is already over when somebody touches the ground in sumo.
It is at its core a beautiful and surprisingly complex and intriguing martial art to watch... but its standing on ceremony and a very wilfully restricted, pure ruleset means that huge parts of the MMA game are simply not possible to learn in sumo, and because professional sumo means regulating entire sections of your life, you're also not able to train elements of combat outside of sumo during that time either.
Another factor is how being an overweight athlete wears down your body. Akebono was a Yokozuna (grand champion) and never fought in MMA or K-1 in his athletic prime... he only dabbled in it b/c his real calling, Sumo, wasn't realistic for him anymore.
It's safe to say that Akebono, Emmanuel Yarbough, Teili Tuli, etc. were all worn down from years of 'weight training' and wern't at their best trying MMA.
That is, unless they are practicing ANCIENT sumo... Then they're probably op af.
Exactly. Any rikishi would obviously be completely lost on the ground considering the entire point is to stay upright and on the dohyo. Where many is Grand Ozumo come up as judoka, and can grapple and throw on their feet, once they lose their balance and go down they’ve already mentally lost…unless it’s Asashoryu. I would put a prime Asashoryu against anyone anywhere anytime 🤷🏻♂️. Hakuho’s a beast himself.
Many modern guys like Ishiura and Kotoeko are stacked little muscle men. Not all rikishi are morbidly obese.
Sumo shines when you're On a high floor in a skyscraper then you win by throwing your opponent off the Balcony
"Sidekicks don't always inflict as much damage"... Except when it's Wonderboy throwing them
Gotta love wonderboy
Or Holly Holm.
Love how they used an icy mike clip there
Sidekicks are super powerful though
Joe rogan lol
As a former practitioner of Aikido... Yes 100%, any MMA fighter would destroy an Aikido master. It's mostly spiritual and a form of thinking. It doesn't translate to reality very well at all
why waste your time
You're a practitioner not a master. Real martial artists don't fight in the ring. Martial arts is made for defense not offense. MMA has rules. In real life your eyes, gorin etc are not saved by the rulebook.
"It's mostly spiritual and a form of thinking"
...whatever that means. 🙄
@@shafqatishan437 When was the last time these "real masters" fight? With their students? 😂😂😂
Glad you're a former now cause you were definitely wasting your time
Bruce Lee is the Godfather of MMA. He was one of the first martial artists to study a different martial art from his primary one (considered a huge no-no back in the day). He was also the first to make martial arts films that were less fantasy (eg. fighting in mid-air), and made it look more realistic. This also inspired future action films as well.
Bruce Lee never participated in any tournament. He has absolutely zero credibility either as a fighter or as an instructor.
There is barely even one recording of the guy actually fighting.
What's amazing is that so many people assume that he was an amazing fighter without any evidence apart from his own claims.
I read worst and I saw Steven seagal in the thumbnail, say no more
Watch out for those chi attacks got hit with a spirit bomb in high school, and I still walk with a limp
Yeah gotta be careful with these guys.. I just got kamehameha'd today
@@Gerraint ouch the torque on the back and neck with that technique is ridiculous take it easy after that 1 brother
Bro why didn't you use the Super Dragon Fist?
Why are these comments actually funny 😂😂
@@Gerraint probably only survived because you had one toe up, one down...
A pretty legitimate list. I applaud you for not attacking Taekwondo or Karate like too many mma people do. No, by themselves they are not well suited for mma, but they are legitimate and are a part of most mma fighters repertoire.
You could say the same for boxing, muay Thai etc. The difference is that karate and taekwondo you can't be powerful in kumite which makes them scrutinised a lot
Yeah that's true even when's it's proven to work. People will still hate on it. Any fighting style by itself doesn't work well.
I know right. So refreshing to see a list where Taekwondo doesn't get trash talked for once. Most people still respect karate though, but TKD constantly gets bullied and laughed at within the martial arts community, even though it's as legit as any other MA (not counting McDojo's of course). It's gotten so bad that even TKD pracritioners trashtalk their own art.
Glad to see Karate not getting trashed. I’ve trained in Wado Ryu Karate for quite a few years. It’s kind of it’s own mixed martial arts, abit of jiujutsu in there, throws, striking etc. Like Sensei Miyagi said, best defence, no be there 😂
It simply wouldn't be possible to trash karate in MMA, considering how well Machida, Wonderboy, MVP and others have done with it. And we've seen Pettis, Yair, Rose, Barboza and others win fights with taekwondo kicks. Bas Rutten incorporated both effectively into his style for years.
Idk why but Roy Nelson having kung fu tournament trophies made me laugh out so loud
I bet he just slapped them and won the tournament.
Honorable mention to Joe Son Do - though in all fairness, repeated nut-punches are a good way to throw off any kind of martial artist
I'm not sure he doesn't belong on the opposite list 🤔
There is at least one *Joe Son Do* student who had made it into PRIDE & the UFC; the legendary Kimo Leopoldo.
That's more than what even the greatest masters of Kyusho Jitsu can claim.
@@randallflagg3700 yeah he got there but couldnt use this style because u cant hit balls, so bet he used much different martial art in Cage.
Correction: It's only been recent that we've *rediscovered* a lot of this stuff. The martial arts of the past were much more comprehensive systems than they were 100 years ago. Schools that by 1900 were only teaching judo were teaching not just today's "mixed martial arts" but also weapon skills like the spear and sword. Today's martial arts can only be "mixed" because the arts of the past were separated. But even in 1900, there were things like Bartitsu, which despite its silly nature was actually a real combat style that combined jujutsu, boxing, and cane fighting (as canes were a common implement of the time).
Just look at what's happened to TKD over the last 40 or 50 years. It went from a well-rounded system of striking and grappling to kick-fencing. Tai Chi's silly arm circles used to be things like ankle picks and leg sweeps. MMA isn't a mixed martial art, its a complete martial art, like TKD, Jujutsu, and Karate used to be.
Yknow if youre talking about japanese ju jitsu its still all rounded.
Striking, Blocking, Throwing, Pressure points, Joint manipulation, Ground fighting, Grappling, Standing and ground locks, Finishers even Defense against moved you learn on lower belts.
It blows my mind that we still haven’t seen a proper shoryuken
Give me a few more years, I'm working on it.
I went to a local pro wrestling show a few years back. One of the wrestlers was dressed like Luigi from Mario Bros, and he literally did a spinning uppercut on his opponent and shouted "SHORYUKEN". Pro wrestling is the realest martial art.
All the force from the uppercut would be lost from the jumping unless they get hit while their still grounded, so it's making an uppercut which already works, not work. It's why you don't "Tiger Uppercuts" in Muay Thai either.
@@jamestoney6599 the key would be landing the uppercut just before the actual jump in the technique, that way you're imparting all the force from the jump into the uppercut.
Machida is the closest we will ever get.
Me spamming Aikido in the comments
What’s wrong With aikido?
@@steelforge6637 literally everything
@@steelforge6637 They teach moves that are very unrealistic to execute. The situations they explain don't happen in real fights. It's known in the Martial Arts world as "MMA for Dummies" edition
@@azizcangulec2063 what do you mean?
@@azizcangulec2063 if you're talking about Ronda, she used Judo not Aikido
KaaaaameeehaameeeHAAAAA!!!! 🤣
Hi I love your videos never thought seeing you here
Dragon Ball's "ki" is basically just Japanese Onyomi reading for the same Chinese letter "chi".
Thanks for still being respectful. Some practitioners of these arts do it for the tradition and artistry. It's not always about fighting nowadays. Cheers!
Those are the same people saying "I'd just do A, B and C" always trying to make their martial art out to be a goddamn nuclear weapon they alone have to power to unleash.
Between the presentation, editing and information this is one of the best list videos I've seen on this channel, and they normally make fantastic content.
Wing Chun is definitely “useable” however it’s only really useful against someone who doesn’t know a better way around it.
It can be used but not too much you can trap hand I’m sure Thai fighters would’ve thought of that if they didn’t use gloves
It's good against other people instructed in Wing Chun.
it’s apparently a surprisingly better weapons system instead
@@MrCmon113 wasn't Asbel Cancio at UFC 5 supposed to be a Wing Chun master? All I remember is Dave Beneteau shooting the most basic wrestling double-leg on Cancio before bashing his face in (while the referee just stood there and watched).
I knew a sifu that was ruined within seconds in a street fight and quit for good.
9:42 when being attacked with a combat knife, its a good idea to grab the blade with your hand. nothing bad can happen there.
As the wise Master Ken of Ameri-do-te (the only true martial art, and far too lethal for MMA) once said "if you grip it hard enough, it can't cut you".
While I would almost never recommend grabbing an opponent's blade if you know what you're doing you can hold an extremely sharp blade just fine. In HEMA half swording is a technique which involves holding a sharp blade. There are also grappling techniques that involve grabbing the blade of an opponent's sword/knife/dagger and while it is possible to mess up and cut your hand it's worthwhile if it allows you to win.
@@saudade7842 yea, in HEMA are they not in full plate armor? with leather gloves in plate armor as well?
@@saudade7842 there is a big difference between holding your own blade and holding a blade, whose handle is held by someone else... The proportion of the item itself handle vs blade allows use of leverages which will fk u up... Trying to grab the blade of the enemy is insane. Unless of course you are ready to sacrifice your arm and hope the blade will be stuck there giving you like 2 extra seconds to do something? But it really doesn't matter, if you are unlucky enough to face someone who is trained with knives, be prapaired to face around 12 stabs in a second (each stab is also a cut) It's difficult to catch the blade, if you can't even see it
@@zyfryth I know. I was just saying that I have read manuscripts that mention grabbing an opponent's blade during some grappling scenarios. It is highly situational and in most cases probably not worth the risk, especially if untrained.
Aikido is a great martial art when you are fighting for the last biscuit at the supper table Steven Seagal is a champion food snatchet
They used him in the thumbnail, but I thought jumping into the air in slow motion and throwing a sweaty spinning kick while making a weird face and weird noises with 80s music playing would be questionable in mma.
I trained jits with a guy who knew aikido and you did habe to watch him with wrist controls. He could tap folks with wrist locks
@Pietro Guimarães Videos of what? Guys getting flipped by masters with clearly fake throws? It all looks fake and if you disagree send me one of these videos.
Aikido is good at self defense but not effective in street fight
@@met3uz854 then how is it good for self defence?
10. Kung fu: too old
9. Krav Maga: just practicing what you see on TV at home
8. Jeet Kuhn do: you’re not Bruce Lee
7. Wing chun: too predictable
6. Capoeira: if you’re an android you could probably do this but you’re not.
5. Akido: there’s a reason even Segal is considered a master.
4. Sumo: big and strong but slow
3. systema: it’s a Russian martial art so of course it doesn’t work
2. Kyusho jitsu: you’re not in Naruto
1. Chi: you’re 6 and love dragon ball
11:36 the subtitles automatically translates "chi martial arts" to "cheap martial arts". it knows what's up
About the Jeet Kune Do part, I remember Frank Shamrock cited Jeet Kune Do as one of the systems he practiced.
Also Bruce Lee died when he was still experimenting with his training including the use of submission holds.
@trvp_ He didn't say he was invincible, just that Jeet kune Do is incomplete, because the guy died. Jesus man, chill out.
That's the beauty of Bruce Lee, he was always learning and adding to Jeet Kune Do. The style alone might not be the best for MMA, but many UFC fighters believe that Bruce Lee himself would exhale in the sport. Like if I learned Jeet Kune Do and trying MMA I would very likely get killed, where Lee, a master and creator of the art would succussed.
11:00 dude, when that guy got knocked out, i started DYING of laughter
"Side kicks don't always inflict alot of damage..."
Also MMA:
"Should kicks to the knee be banned?"
Side kicks - Stephen Thompson. " i guess i dont exist"
@@ruger51995 Right lol. I'm pretty sure I've seen John Jones launch himself in the air and and try to viciously side kick someone's knee like a total sadist but maybe I'm dreamin
maybe its my context being wrong, but i believed that side kicks were ones which are launched with my back being perpendicular to the opponent´s torso (or superhero helpers)
UFC is like " yeah but can you do a 360 before you connect with it tho?"
Oblique kicks are frontal kicks to the knee. Your body is not turned sideways when you do it. Oblique kicks are seriously dangerous, sidekicks are meme territory.
Most fitting thumbnail ever
Yeah I never like Steven Seagal and dont really rate his movies but Anderson Silva worked with him, so maybe he isnt 100 BS.
@@EatMyShortsAU he didnt teach him fuck all and it was all for publicity
@@bradleydolphin1049 I think he helped him with that face kick he landed on Vitor.
Having said that I am pretty sure 99% of Anderson Silva's skills didnt come from Seagal.
@@EatMyShortsAU I think Silva said that Seagal taught him how to throw it more effectively after he saw Silva do it against Vitor
@@Jazj97 Fair enough, I don't know all the details except that Segal was helping him with that kick. It was featured in a Doco I saw.
Capoeira forces you to develop a keen eye for reading your opponent's movement. Foreigners may get to see the dancing part more often than the "roda" (or "the circle") aspect of it. Capoeiristas (practitioners of capoeira) are encouraged to step in the roda against an opponent that he doesn't know, with very little to no rules besides "use capoeira".
(Fun fact: capoeira as a whole where prohibited in Brazil in the 1930's because those rodas usually take place in the streets and ended up in full blown gang fights among the gyms at site)
It's a martial art so focused in "get smart, get good" that, in order to get a leveled up "cordão" (capoeira's belt) a capoerista have to fight an experienced capoeirista and the fight only stops when he gets leg swept and take the fall.
Capoeira is a street wise martial art. So, if you see capoeira moves landing in caged fights, probably it came out of nowhere or as a form of taunting.
"No weigh is the way." - Daniel Cormier grabbing the towel on the scale.
Underrated comment
@@halfassranch8363 it is . he took bruce lee comment and twist it 😂
This is a special video. It's the only one I've seen where each aspect is treated with respect. Thank you for clarifying so well why even arts that aren't that great in context still add something to the context.
I believe Jeet Kune Do is the most effective one. It is like MMA only without restrictions. It is to create your own style from many other styles. Keep the useful things and forget the useless things.
Agreed. I trained in this. It's great for the stand up game and even a few take downs. BJJ should also be incorporated though.
@Dave Smith leave this place.
*Lee Jun-Fan's Jeet Kune Do*
•boxing's head & body punch, footwork•
•savate's head & body kick•
•suntukan's shoulder strike, limb destruction•
•gung fu's thigh & knee kick, foot-stomp•
•muay thai's elbow & knee strike, clench•
•judo's throw & standing body control•
•grec-roman wrestling's drag & laying body control•
•tai chi's breathing, reaction sub-memory, simplicity•
•america's "do what needs to be done" attitude•
The clip of that dude laying out that little lady on the beach will never not be absolutely hilarious
So from what I'm seeing, several of the styles on this list are not good in MMA.... because they're outdated. I think this especially applies to Jeet Kune Do- a style (that's not really a style) that was never fully developed because its pioneer died prematurely.
Also because they have illegal moves, like the Krav Maga
So you haven't seen Inosanto
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 correct. Erik Paulson, a legit MMA guy is also student of Dan Inosanto.
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 Well even Inosanto basically transformed it from an idea of looking for what works best into a business of just throwing what was fashionable at the time. Had Bruce Lee been alive he’d be combining Muay Thai, boxing, and BJJ as the core of this version. The problem with JKD is it not being an art or style means you’re essentially on a personal journey. And most people don’t have the drive and dedication to do that, they need predigested steps.
@@Hadoken. well, that's what's needed in a martial artist: dedication and drive
I need confirmation that Krav Maga practicioners are called KravMagicians.
Confirmed.
Dude... I feel like a whole new world is available to me after your comment 👍🏻😂🤣
This is funny, one of the biggest channels in italy about boxing created the term "Krav Mages" to idnicate all the people that practice those fake martial arts (you know, the scammy ones where you see people beting tens of opponent by weaving their hands)
@Sak Attack if you actually think that wrestling is better then krav maga then ma dude you don't even know what you're talking about . Krav maga is not about defending yourself it's about how fast you can kill someone and moove to the other .
@Sak Attack again it shows how ignorant you are no insult intended. Do your research on something before insulting it who knows you might wanna try it ( and btw krav maga is used by the mosad israelian special forces and other countries military including spetsnaz and the us military and navy)
You're the best narrator beside Tommy Toe Hold. Good video mate!
You should do top 10 best martial arts to use in mma
Bold strategy cotton, let’s see how this video plays out for him!! Hahaha great video 👏👏
Glad to hear someone else mention that side kicks don't work (4:35) haha. Very much a fan of your videos too.
@@bobbygwensley3152 that part cracked me up 😂😂
Love your channel, man. Thanks for stopping by!
Theres gonna be some saaaaaaaalty people in this comment section for sure 🤣
i can almost taste the salt dude
Some people just might disagree
I’m waiting for the essays to start pouring into the comments lmfaoo
damn... you beat me to writing this looool
Sak Attack boys look like we got one here.
One thing I liked about aikido was how we were taught to move towards your opponent, makes you less afraid of taking a hit
It's good to see my bois Hard2Hurt & Xiao represented in this vid. Once again y'all are on point
Gross
That clip with the "chi master" plowing through his "student" is my favorite clip of all time 🤣
I had an uncle that tried to fight like Seagall. He was trying to shake their hands and waited for the other guys to fall, but they never did.
That always makes me laugh 😂
Everyone used to think Kung fu was the greatest martial art ever Until the MMA was a thing
"number one is Jiu Jitsu" - Derrick Lewis
Right just stand up
I love how you added the only known footage of Bruce Lee’s actual fighting in the gi while talking about jeet kune do
Sumo wouldn't work in MMA, but if you get the chance to go to a Sumo tournament, definitely take it. It's truly awe inspiring seeing two mountains of humanity rush at each other full power. The volume of the slaps needs to be heard in person to be appreciated. Truly one of the most amazing sporting events that one can see.
That Dragon Ball reference had me in tears. I have always waited for one of those 'chi masters' to shout KA-ME-HA-ME-HAA!!
We always did that during sparring as a kid. The odd thing is it never worked.
The editing in this is just 🔥👌🏽
I love you too, Francisco
I practiced Wing Chun for a few years, just before UFC became a thing. It was back when you could say "we don't need full contact sparring. Just remember these techniques and no one can hit you." :D
When you showed Dragon Ball Z, I actually nearly spat out my drink.
do “10 best martial arts for MMA” next!
BJJ,Wrestling,Muay Thai,Kickboxing,Boxing, Sambo if you can find a proper coach, TKD, whatever the fuck Zabit does(Sanda). I know this is not 10 and there are probably many more that could be used in MMA effectively but these disciplines have been the MMA meta for pretty much 20 years with Sambo and Sanda coming up in the late 2010´s.
@@zavodszkiabel7919 TKD is kinda scetchy they have some good techniques but if you'd only train TKD you will get murked in a mma match, where the others that you named would perform way better. I think some forms of karate (where they do full contact sparring) would work better then pure TKD.
@@meesert Oh shit, I wanted to list Kyokushin Karete too, but to be fair you can absolutely get your shit blasted if you go against an opponent of the same level with only a singular martial art, altough it´s in the favor of grapplers, there´s a high possibility of getting KTFO´d if you don´t know striking at all, same goes for strikers getting taken down and submitted or turned into mince meat.
@@zavodszkiabel7919 I would add Judo too. It has its limitations as a singular art, but has incredible things to contribute if you cross train.
@@zavodszkiabel7919 Sanda is basically kung-fu
Well, about Chinese kung fu, I have learnt that most of it has disappeared over time, the real practical kung fu is not practised in many institutions and fake kungfu such as chi are practised.However, there are other very practical martial arts of china such as Shaolin Kung fu and Bai jin quan.
Sanda is a 10/10 tho. And Wing Chun is also technically part of Kung Fu... but I understand why you wanted to keep it separate
Wing Chun is simple and straightforward, the most appropriate style for self-defense.
bajiquan, choy li fut, sanda, wing chun and jeet kune do, hung gar or shaolin good styles of kung fu
I love how everytime after a chi attack is done it's almost always followed by a slap on the back and a Mr. Miyagi level massage
As a former highschool wrestler there are defenses to a double leg take down I presenting: the sprawl. Although it is true sprawling could potentially hurt you if you get tricked into it in MMA but also if have quick knees that is another option
As a high school wrestler when he said “limmted defense against double leg take down” I immediately screamed in my mind sprawl
"Number 10: Kung Fu"
Yeah, but that's only because you're not allowed to take a Dao and a quarterstaff into the octagon.
Number 11 was Gun Fu.
Said the Spartans
And what styles of Kung fu is he talking about?!
If it's the styles of the "Masters" who got beat up by that MMA guy in China then I agree!
If it is an actually GOOD style, then that could be a different story!
@@Herowebcomics Those masters don't spar. Any Martial Art is effective if you know 1. How to fight 2. Spar regularly, especially against other styles.
@@daemonlordmagnusthered6213 True!
Also, they didn't side step, block or try and strike back.
So overall,they were crap!
I feel like Jeet Kune Do shouldn't be on this list because the philosophy had certain concepts that would later be adopted by mma, like the oblique kick. And also the philopshy seems to have influenced mma go an extent with it's focus of being well rounded rather than just keeping yourself to a single style
For me Jeet Kun Do is more of a system of martial philosophy than a system of martial art, and it should be treated and practised as such. The problem is, people, even its own disciples, aren't applying the thinking of Bruce Lee, which is to learn any technique from any style that suit you. Instead they're a bunch of Bruce Lee copycats, using the same techniques and approaches of Lee, even if those are selected techniques that Bruce Lee assembled for him and him only. The beauty of Jeet Kun Do was lost right after the moment Bruce Lee died
@@shazamsakazaki look up a guy called tommy caruthers,very good practitioner still to this day. Lightning fast
The Oblique kick sees origin in Savate (French martial arts) not Jeet Kune Do, though it adopted the practice as well.
Yeah, pretty much Bruce Lee was taking things from other martial arts that he thought were useful. So, if he were around today, he probably would've loved MMA. I've made some videos about martial arts on my channel. Please check it out and let me know what you think 🙏🏾
I suppose Eddie Hall should get credit whenever someone drinks, because he tells people to stay hydrated...
What's actually practiced in Jeet Kune Do doesn't work. And for all we know the founder wasn't even a skilled fighter.
I've read the "systema manual" and really feels more like a book on self improvement than anything else.
It's not bad in that department though.
as i said it is more like system for military how to be chill in pressure and some shit is good ..same as krav maga which is just system how to be agressive..
If any martial art (or sports class in general) comes with self improvement/ mentality shit, run.
@@MrCmon113 every sport is about self improvment and mentality
now we need top 10 best
@Gu Cruz kickboxing is umbrella term and was basically created by Bruce lee so according to the British guy in video can’t count
Wrestling, then the rest lol.
@@Litevaar I think good argument but also think good argument for other styles such as Muay Thai, sambo, Sanshou
@@anthonyurso9366 Indeed, especially Muay Thai. That stuff is serious business lol.
@Gu Cruz
Boxing/Kickboxing (Striking)
Wrestling (Grappling)
Muay Thai (Striking)
BJJ (Grappling)
(Combat) Sambo (Hybrid)
Judo (Grappling)
Lethwei (Striking)
Luta Livre (Grappling/Hybrid)
Kyokushin Karate (Striking)
Silat (Striking)
The fus ro dah in the chi segment killed me 😂
My friends and I were pretty heavy practitioners of Chi.. In second grade at recess. ='D
Guess we will have to wait for a Ryu type throwing energy balls across the octogen while shouting hadouken....sigh.
"if Sambo was easy it would be called jiu jitsu" -Khabib Nurmagomedov
@Gu Cruz Barboza and Rafael Dos Anjos?
I guess Combat Sambo is one of the most Complete Fighting Systems. It includes Punches, Kicks, Elbows, Knees, Head Butts, Groin Strikes, Clinching, Throwing, Wrestling and Submissions and since they are wearing a Gi they are able to use the whole spectrum of GI and No-GI throws and Submissions. So you have to basically master every Aspect of Fighting in this discipline.
@Gu Cruz Could be 😁✌🏻
Just gonna say, thank you dude. I appreciate that you didn't completely dismiss a lot of these Martial Arts, like Capoeira, Aikido, and Kung Fu/Chinsese Martial Arts in general. While they may not be effective in a ring fight, they are effective in certain situations, or for different purposes. Tai-Chi is great for your health, for breath control, and for meditation purposes. And aspects of it can be used in other martial arts as a supplement, however, anybody that thinks that they can expel Qi from their bodies is unfortunately delusional. Qi is breath...breath is life, and the only place you can expel Qi from, really, is the mouth and nose. Qi (or Chi) is a very old Chinese spiritual/philosophical concept, used notably in Taoist practice, through meditation and ritual. People twist a very old, and surprisingly grounded Spitual concept (in regards to how some spiritual ideas are) into something that would be better suited to Fantasy, or Sci-fi. Qi is not the Force, no matter how much you hope it is...unfortunate, because little kid me really super hoped it was. But, as an adult, I'm happy with knowing that what I practice, even if I am a novice, is something that can bring some inner peace to me. I hope I can get a proper trainer someday, but until then I'm happy reading and practicing on my own.
Make up your mind. Is chi just breath or is it a "spiritual concept"?
@@MrCmon113 Its both. Many different practices regard Breath as being a huge focal point for spiritual practices. In western occult, it maybe called Astral Light. In Hinduism and Buddhism, its sometimes called Prana. In all versions, breath is considered important as a vehicle for carrying that sacred energy. Again, if you'd actually read the original post thoroughly you'd probably understand that, but instead you're looking for something that's not there (I.E. the ability to inflict great harm through Qi, or looking for another way to discredit, simply due to a pre-conceived notion of falsehood.) You don't have to believe in it, if you don't want too, no one will ever force you. However, I have experienced its usefulness in my own life through meditation and cultivating practices, and under the different practices and names it goes by in other cultures and faiths. So I simply ask for respect to practice those beliefs, as I respect yours or another's lack of belief. Strength is found in both paths, I genuinely believe. It's only when we kill our open mindedness is when fail as humans.
So, Nappa shooting mouth beams is more accurate than Goku's kamehameha wave. I see.
You already said it at the beginning of the JKD section. It's not a martial arts system, just a philosophy of not being constrained by martial arts systems. That is a common approach to modern MMA combat.
I've been practicing Aikido for 24 years (and teaching for 13) and I have to say this video is spot on. In reality a lot of the techniques won't work the way they are taught or practiced in most dojos. Anybody that is decent at striking or ground work will make short work of someone relying on just Aikido. It's just not what we've been trained to deal with.
Training to fight in a ring is completely different from training to defend yourself from the average idiot in the street.
There's also a mentality to fighting that many people (not just in aikido) just don't have.
But it looks fancy. But like in Jeet Kune Do, forget the useless things and keep the useful things. That is why Jeet Kune Do is the best of all. It is not a specific style. It is your own style once you practiced many arts.
@@bigtareec "be water "
I'd argue JKD is something like a philosophical prototype of modern MMA.
Take only what works, discard the rest.
Agreed
Tony ferguson is the type of guy to use wing chun in a street fight
Great video. I love that you guys maintained respect for the traditional martial arts and not bashing them like the fraud arts at the top of the list. People bash traditional martial arts because it doesnt work in high level mma, but a black belt in any of those arts would still beat any youtube commenters ass
Beating the crap out of these keyboard warriors.....Amen to that for sure!
Great list. And very fair descriptions of each Martial Art on the list.
Dont forget about Ben Askren style striking.
He is probably going to get KTFO by Logan Paul lol..
Logan Paul might be a shitty RUclipsr but he hits hard.
@@EatMyShortsAU it’s a shame he fights his brother Jake though
Yeah but his wrestling alone led him to multiple championships and 10+ years of undefeated dominance, so he's been extremely "effective" in mma.
@@edgarslinis5873 Yeah I just checked that lol.. I meant Jake Paul. I get them confused sometimes.
@@EatMyShortsAU Yeah no, Askren faught against actual fucking killers like Lawler and still won. His chin is one of the best ones out there lol.
*watching the video
"Oh thank God, my art is not in the list!"
Let me guess: Taekwondo 😁😉😂
Yeah me too.. My style is Silat...
mine is but idc
Wing chun😭
Great video! I appreciate that you were respectful of the legitimate arts that you covered despite their lack of modernity and usefulness in mma competition.
I already know Wing Chun is gonna be on this LMAO
I love that Silva "highlight" video of him using wing Chun and getting beat up lol
@Michael Terrell II He does do really well I'll give him that. But there's such a huge difference in Silva's effectiveness when he's doing that compared to when he just boxes his ass off or when he's like a slick kickboxer
@Michael Terrell II knocking other styles is a wrong thing to do? What about the fake ones? And if wing chun was effective it would be used. It’s literally that simple. Critical thinking is not a wrong thing to do, criticism is not a wrong thing to do. Don’t be a child
@@NeverSpeak6 a practioner of wing chun would beat the shit out of most average people including you. Acting like all regular people are on the verge of joining the ufc 🤣🤣
@@Adam-zw1ck A practitioner of wing chun would and has gotten fucked up by me. 5 years of jiu jitsu, boxing, and Muay Thai. I’m not average, little one. I know you’re gonna roll this off as keyboard warrior shit but I could give a fuck less. Wing chun is good against wing chun. They have a rule set and if you don’t obey their rules they can’t do Jack shit.
How are you going to show icy mike when talking about the side kick 😂😂😂 I love it
#sidekicksdontwork
@@hard2hurt you’ve made it. Proud of you lol
Another fun fact. Bruce Lee had one leg that was shorter, hense the south paw stance. So he was true to form in his style no style philosophy. He really did do what worked best, for him. So I would say that's exactly what an mma fighter should do.
Was that because of his fucked up back??
He didn't do shit. Didn't even compete in one tournament, so how does it matter how he stands?
@@MrCmon113 lmao should he have done point fighting like the great chuck norris? you understand that your gods of UFC werent around back then, right?
Guess it goes without saying but all weapon based martial arts are essentially useless in MMA (fencing, kendo , wushu). Maaaaybe some footwork but that's about it.
Jup, footwork, hand trapping and wrestling are essential parts of most weapon based martial arts, but it makes more sense to just learn wrestling 😂
Now for the opposite with the most successful martial arts in MMA.
I wouldn't want to read the comments on that one.
Bjj, judo, Karate, Muay Thai, wrestling, boxing, kick boxing, taekwondo, what else
Top 5 for me...
1. Muay Thai
2. Boxing
3. BJJ
4. Judo
5. Hapkido
@@UrAvgGamer sambo!
@@Tiger-bp6op slapoeira
Sumo wrestlers could translate to a offensive tackle. Hand punch and keeping a low center of gravity is some of the qualities needed to be such.
Sumo #4? Are you forgetting when Nate Diaz defeated Conor McGregor in his prime through the utilization of sumo-style wrestling?
Lol skip bayless
Yes but sumo is really not good in mma because the rounds most of the time go up to not even 10 seconds. The techniques are not made for knocking someone unconscious rather push them out the ring or to the ground and if a sumo ringer us on the ground he is helpless because this would be normally the end for him
@@Dinkelberg94 He was joking
@@Dinkelberg94 Look up skip bayless sumo
LETS BE HONEST NATE DAIZ ONLY THING HE KNEW HOW TO DO WAS TAKE PEOPLE DOWN THAT HAD NO GROUND DEFENCE