Legal Challenges to Covid Vaccine Mandates | Jonathan Cherne Esq.
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Amen Amen!
Pr Ron Kelly, God bless you!!!
To see Dr Vine, warms my heart.
May God wake us up to the reality in which we live!!!
Disagree with Pr. Ron Kelly, God bless you!!!- Any man that profess to teach and preach the 3 angels message who gives not the trumpet a certain sound playing the highest note possible [double C (C7)] will never be blessed by our Creator and Redeemer. Calling upon Pr. Ron Kelly to repent before it is too late.
So glad to see Dr. Vine at Village Church!!!Bless the Lord.
I'd like to know when this was recorded... which Friday
Friday September 20th, 2024
@@villagemediaministry wonderful
I'm under the impression Village is Vine's home church.
This man gives me a little hope for this SDA church. Still wondering why they banned Dr Vine from speaking. I know why though, because he called them out for not giving religious exemptions for their parishioners who felt God will protect them. That was wrong and the GC needs to acknowledge this an prayerfully never make the mistake of trusting man instead of our Lord and Saviour.
May i testify to the BLESSING of refusing all the shots. At 83 yrs and not on any drugs just simply because I remember council from GODS messenger, getting out in the sun light, and walking 3 miles fown hill and 3 back up pushing my groceries along too, keeping my air ways clean and protected, and protecting my hand from the grocery buggy handle - then cleaning my hands before touching my face, etc.. illness was prevented and still is. Just old timer cleanliness perventive measures. Still havent been ill and its all due to our LORD JESUS providing us with measures of staying well. We all can rely on our CREATOR and HIS promises rather than compromise in disbelief.
Amen ,God blessed
Love this testimony!! Stay strong in Christ Angela!!
I am super happy to see Dr. Vine. I have been praying for him God bless Dr. Vine and his ministry.
Dios bendiga a Dr vine . Me gusta escuchar sus predicaciones aunque mi primer idioma español.
Glad to see Dr Vine at the pulpit, shame on the Michigan conference. 2 Corinthians 5: 18 - 21 look at all we do to God everyday and He reconciled us unto Him we are to be His ambassadors where is the spirit of reconciliation, here? People should not be gagged when trying to do just that. Seems hard to find out how to make wrongs right without dialog. 😢 Dr Vine was standing tall for all of us who have been marginalized thru the mandate that should never have been put on brothers and sisters of Christ who Himself allows free choice. Religious Liberty is all about a personal conviction not an organizational issue at all. My body is Gods temple not the conferences. Please praying our leaders will wake up and do what’s right. Reconcile to God and one another. Please🙏❤️
Yes our church got it wrong, and the hurt is still very real. Thank you for standing up for us that have been sacked for following God!
I don't think they got it wrong, as much as some of them were bribed, and just like Judas, they sold their brothers and sisters for thirty pieces of silver. Note that there has not been any apologies. I believe that another health emergency is on its way, and the general conference will behave similarly.
This man (Dr Vine of course) is truly a man of God, he's so humble. With everything that the conference and even his very church is doing to him he is still there in support. Shame on the conference and all pastors who doesn't believe in religious liberty and freedom of speech. God bless you Dr Vine. Tho they slay you yet will you trust Him.
Happy to see you Dr. Vine.we are praying for you
Why the Man who plan this event is now relegated to inter-duces the Speaker. A member of your church and you don’t stand with him. ( very unfortunate)
I totally agree with you, this is all so very wrong. I’m very disappointed with what’s happening here.
Why do you focus on little negatives when this Church does SO much good. Can't you appreciate a huge blessing without looking for a crack? Does Dr Conrad Vine look unhappy to be introducing the speakers? I think the fact that he is welcome there on the platform and the fact that he is happy to be there speaks volumes about the healthy relationship between himself and his church. He is very able to complain if he wanted to. I was overjoyed to see him there. Praise God.
Church orgsnization POLITICS
It interesting, that this lawyer said we are making headway, yet the GC hadn’t apologized yet, Dr. was not allowed to preach, the government knows people have been victims, yet the leaders refused to address the issue in God Church. I am so disappointed in pastor Kelly. Let’s continue to pray for the church and the GC leaders
You all need the peace of God, you have not been born again, still criticizing and dictating orders to GC, let God take care and be God.
So happy Conrad Vine is humbly following God, but what a shame he is being silenced yet the GC continues to support Diop as he tries to bring the church closer to Rome. Very shameful. God loves His church and will do the sifting.
May God Almighty continue to bless these brave pastors
Your sincerity is what God is proud of
Why do sda's ignore their own health message which is the right arm of the gospel?
When the mandates came we threw the Health messages out of the door.
May I respectfully ask What do vaccines have to do with the health message? SDA's have been getting vaccinated for years and years! ( including EGW) We were a missionary family in 63 along with 30 others ( not to mention the 100's that went other places) all three of the vaccines we got were BRAND NEW!!!!! Not one missionary called for tithes to be withheld from the conference for subjecting them to brand new vaccines. No missionary has said the church was babylon because they were required to get vaccinated .
No one stomped their feet and called for the church to go to the court.
The arguments here are NOT from with in the church they were brought in from the outside! Flat out baptized Fox new arguments.
Insead of reading the bible along with P&P or P&K ( if they had these voices would be silenced) everyone has been watching TV and RUclips. And this is just the beginning. The angle in white has a bible and the SOP in one hand and the 10 commandments in the other and b/c God's ppl took their eyes off of Christ and started watching RUclips and Fox news they can't see the difference.
I know every one is busy but we have got to study! Every one can listen to P and kings on way to work or while doing dishes. It's life or death ppl.
Good question
@@samanthawright4210you are not answering the question
@@samanthawright4210What is Fox new?
God bless you for fighting the good fight and helping so many people who were negatively affected by this these unconstitutional mandates. Keep up the great work!
Keep preaching Dr. Vine! Millions are listening to your words.
Yes Millions!
Dr. Vine. We LOVE YOU and SUPPORT YOU!!😃😍
So what i have a problem with is most all of the courts are ruling that this is a religious liberty issue, yet our own church leadership doesn't see it that way. This doesn't make a bit of sense.
Here is why. There are no Scripture or SOP references that condemn vaccination.
The state and federal governments and individual institutions made the decision whether or 🚫 to require the C-vaccine. Some within the GC recommended it. 2) Ellen White did not promote or condemn the smallpox vaccine in her day, which was as novel as the C-vaccine. You can't legally make a religious argument based on that because there are no references. You can make the claim that you should have autonomy over your own body. The pro abortion group claims that too
Thank you!! for this wonderful message!!!
I had two shots...Other than that I was doing fine with my health...now I'm toxic
So sorry to hear this
Well if it makes you feel better, 80% of US citizens were vaccinated so you are not alone.
Have you looked into ways to detox? I know Dr Peter McCullough has spoken of ways that they have figured out to help! He has been a speaker at Liberty Health Alliance
You are not alone , we were so unfortunately not stand by our health message the reason is our leaders who blind folded us to take this poison as they claim Sister White took it misquoting the statement one day they will answer about that and after what they did they have guts to stand in our pulpits claiming to be like the three Hebrew boys but how can be like them while we defiled our bodies with that poison come on they come and apologize to us a
How do you mean you are toxic. What symptoms do you have to know you are toxic. I had two shots as did most of my family so how would I know if I am toxic.
So glad to see this and to see Dr Vine too 🙏 interesting about Loma Linda because I heard differently 🤷♀️
Interesant. Cei ce nu cunosc adevărul, aşa cum obişnuim să-i calificăm pe cei din lume, recunosc că a fi sau a nu fi vaccinat este o problemă de conştiință, în timp ce liderii noştri nu recunosc.
Pilat a recunoscut: "eu nu găsesc nici o vină în El", dar contrar, conducătorii religioşi Îl găseau atât de vinovat că merita cea mai oribilă moarte. Cu durere trebuie să spunem că aceştia vor fi cei mai mari persecutori ai poporului lui Dumnezeu. Pregătiți-vă.
What has never been mentioned to my knowledge is Revelation 18:23 "...for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." the word "sorceries" in the Greek means "pharmakeia" which means "drug" "poison" "spell." My wife and myself did not take the poison.
Thank you for this powerful sermon. So thankful that God is using you to speak up to equip indivduals and churches to know best how to go forward.
I wonder when the Sunday law kicks and the mark of the beast is in full swing; how many lawsuits will you file? We have a choice. Accept or reject. Then, live the consequences of those decisions.
The Bible does not teach a do nothing in the face of existing laws. Even Paul argued his case in court. Do not promote extreme views
We are told that God's people will face persecution.
Sounds like the circuit courts get it, let's hope the GC gets it now. They should be held and pay restitution for the people who were harmed or lost their jobs due to their lack of biblical and scientific knowledge. I can't even understand why they would not give exemptions in the first place. Makes me wonder who was putting money in their pockets not to.
The state and federal governments and individual institutions made the decision whether or 🚫 to require the C-vaccine, not the GC. Some within the GC recommended it. 2) Ellen White did not promote or condemn the smallpox vaccine in her day, which was as novel as the C-vaccine. You can't legally make a religious argument based on that because there are no references. You can make the claim that you should have autonomy over your own body. The pro abortion group claims that too
Praise God, this man is standing with Dr Vine and is basically preaching what Dr Vine said. Thank you so much for backing Dr Vine.
How deep will the axe cut?
3ABN had a 2 hour live program with 6 doctors at the beginning of Covid saying the shot was safe.
Dr Neil Nedley also said it was safe and influenced students at Weimar and others to take the shot.
Dr DeRose also said it was safe and took the shot.
Many years ago at Pacific Union College I was in a class on Micro Biology. I remember to this day the professor said that shots can only be used after 10 years of research. For Covid it was 6 months. Its all about money. Our professor was really a cool guy. I think his name was Terrance and he had two twin boys.
Coercion on any level is not of God. Thank God that people have been redressed for their decisions. To God be the glory for this presentation. Worse is yet to come so let’s hold on to our God-given rights to refuse things that both violate both our religious and personal rights. GC, 3ABN or government are not our standard. Let’s look to our God who gave us the right to choose. So happy to see Dr Vine. God’s truth will always stand🙏🏾
The state and federal governments and individual institutions made the decision whether or 🚫 to require the C-vaccine. Some within the GC recommended it. 2) Ellen White did not promote or condemn the smallpox vaccine in her day, which was as novel as the C-vaccine. You can't legally make a religious argument based on that because there are no references. You can make the claim that you should have autonomy over your own body. The pro abortion group claims that too
Where is the lawsuit against the GC for employees who lost their job??? Are we all blind ?? Or just too content in our prosperity ??
three angels message with out compromise? How sad really. SDA who want to be Jehovah Witness trying to find a compromise?
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
Common but Dangerous Custom-A custom that is laying the foundation for a vast number of diseases and still more serious ills is the free use of poisonous drugs. When attacked by disease, many will not take the trouble to investigate the cause of the trouble. Their chief anxiety is to be freed from pain and discomfort. Therefore they resort to nostrums, the real properties of which they scarcely know, or they apply to a physician to counteract the effects of their wrong course, but with no thought of changing their injurious habits. If they do not feel immediate benefit, they try another remedy, and then another. Thus they continue the evil.-The Ministry of Healing, 126.
Not drogas ... Free conciece
As a RN I dare not force a patient who has mental capacity to take any treatment at all. That is going against the code of practice, so why do the government and employes
Educate Educate Educate pleasantly and intelligently....
Spirit of Prophecy quote.
Praise God for giving you heavenly wisdom.
I have a question! Why havent you sued the GC or conferences for the clients that lost their jobs there?
This this is good news and thank you for sharing it. I know it makes my heart a lot happier. Thank you. God bless you
So glad the war made on him has been voided in this church by leadership.
My mother and I used to enjoy watching and listening to pastor Ron Kelly. We won't be going forward given his being bought and sold in his canceling Dr. Conrad Vine.
Amen! Thank you!
Seriously? May we all seek Jesus, who is the only one who can and will cloth us in white if we believe in His atoning sacrifice to save us and surrender to hHs will.
To believe that the pope has anything to do with how we are clothed is silly, and spiritually speaking it is grave error.
Trust our heavenly attorney in everything. He will fight for us if we obey Him.
Yet still Dr Vine I don't know if you have challenges kneeling down but I do believe you should thought this young man to kneel when praying becuz your in a public setting
Blood in their hands...GC have to resign and repent before God and His Members....God have a Mercy
The state and federal governments and individual institutions made the decision whether or 🚫 to require the C-vaccine, not the GC. Some within the GC recommended it. 2) Ellen White did not promote or condemn the smallpox vaccine in her day, which was as novel as the C-vaccine. You can't legally make a religious argument based on that because there are no references. You can make the claim that you should have autonomy over your own body. The pro abortion group claims that too
My sister Joyce would have been alive today if she wasn't forced to take those vaccines despite her complications 😭
And if the administrators were under financial threat or coercion which has now resulted in significant monetary losses, will the government now cover these losses?
No. You would have to sue the individual Adventist institution. The state and federal governments and individual institutions made the decision whether or 🚫 to require the C-vaccine, not the GC. Some within the GC recommended it. 2) Ellen White did not promote or condemn the smallpox vaccine in her day, which was as novel as the C-vaccine. You can't legally make a religious argument based on that because there are no references. You can make the claim that you should have autonomy over your own body. The pro abortion group claims that too
Why he didnot speak this in 2022 and 2023 ??
God had to allow every election to be made sure. So all attitudes could be recorded.
THEN, sent the messenger….
Assuming you’re referring to the presentation: he did and has been speaking on this
Was this recorded last year? Or during this year’s religious liberty weekend?
This year. 20th September.
This year. 20th September.
52:17 the judge is right. There’s nothing religious about getting or not getting vaccinated period!
So regarding all the poor decisions that are costing organizations so much, were the decisions just myopic and punative or were the decision makers under financial pressures themselves to make these decisions? An
The state and federal governments and individual institutions made the decision whether or 🚫 to require the C-vaccine, not the GC. Some within the GC recommended it. 2) Ellen White did not promote or condemn the smallpox vaccine in her day, which was as novel as the C-vaccine. You can't legally make a religious argument based on that because there are no references. You can make the claim that you should have autonomy over your own body. The pro abortion group claims that too
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Have my comments been deleted?
I really do not understand why is religious?
The state should not make you override your conscience and personal convictions on any issue.
So thankful that Conrad has spoken up but goes too far to suggest a Para church or redirecting Tithe. I am thankful God had Stephen Bohr restrain Conrad Vine so that Campmeeting season did not have this hype. We have so many wonderful campmeeting sermons on utube.
Persecution is something we all will face at some point.
@judybooth110... What do you mean Stephen Bohr restrained Conrad? Was he out of control?
If you feel he has some good things to say and yet do not agree with his suggestions, just address the issues that resonate with you and leave out what you don't want. No one is forcing you to agree 100% with Dr Conrad.
If the leadership had addressed this issue, we would not be here, so don't major on the minor.
This is a complete shame and and pony show… I feel like I’m at a black voters for Trump rally…😒