Smith was going to appear in The Second Renaissance Part 2. The Wachowskis vetoed director Mahiro Maeda for unknown reasons. Which is probably for the best because Smith deserves his own short rather than a quick cameo.
I think the idea behind the one with the kid is that he believes without a doubt that he's in the matrix. He knows that nothing around him is real, and so when he jumps, through sheer willpower he can survive outside of the matrix. He dies in the matrix, but the matrix isn't real, so he's rejected by the machines and lives to tell the tale. Just like how in the movie they explain that the body outside of the matrix can tear itself apart simply by believing that it's being destroyed, the body can survive outside of the matrix even through death simply by understanding that death inside the matrix is not real. I think that's also probably how the first human escaped the matrix, simply through believing that the matrix cannot hurt him.
The Last Flight of the Osiris is actually more of a reference in my opinion. You hear about it in The Matrix Reloaded at the beginning. During the meeting, they look at a bunch of photos and talk about all the drills and machines. I think all that info was from the package that she dropped in the mail box before the ship exploded. In my opinion, the Osiris is just a way for them to explain how they got the info, since you never hear about them again.
The film references the animation. and enter the matrix the game builds upon plot points in both. the message in the post is picked up and delivered in the game. it was kind of a cool idea to fracture the full story across 3 different mediums. the game was my favourite. driving missions were a bit clunky but the story was cool. great to see the main story from a different captains perspective
+NightSkyArchitect I will agree with you on that. There are quite a few references on the animation and the game. But you have to admit, the first chapter does kind of explain how they got all the info on the invasion in the second movie that happens in the final movie.
Would you consider "Kid's Story" to also be more of a reference, or would his appearance in the Matrix Trilogy have given them reason to make the animation?
I'd be more comfortable calling "Kid's Story" a backstory to the character in "Reloaded" and "Revolutions". Though I don't feel like he added too much to the story as a whole, the creation of his backstory in "Animatrix", in my opinion, was kind of a missing piece to the movies. It would have explained his existence more and given him more relevance, instead of making him sound and look like a Neo fanboy.
The reason why The Second Renaissance is so ... confusing, is because it's written by the machines. Of COURSE they write humans off as the bad guys, it's because their the victors, any hero does that to their own story. And yes, they don't give reasons but to them that probably doesn't matter so much. It's ancient history for them, it happened, they accept it.
Weetabix and Frosties I'm sorry? I don't seem to understand. I didn't mention anything about processors or energy sources. Perhaps you could be a little more clear.
I think World Record is meant to answer the question "Is there a way to leave the Matrix without someone coming to get you?" while The Detective Story is meant to answer the question "Did they ever try breaking someone out of the Matrix but failed in doing so?"
My takeaway is this: Had the Matrix been done as an anime, over the course of several seasons, it could have been not just good, but incredible. With enough time to spread it out over, it wouldn't feel as heavy-handed with the message, and the opportunities to convey beautiful or intense experiences just for their own sake would have been amazing. It could have explored all of the weird, artsy stuff, and all the beauty that can come from it, and more, without feeling cramped or inflexible. I feel that it had the potential to be on a level with shows like Avatar: TLA, if it had been done right.
trebacca9 The Matrix didn't feel heavy-handed or cramped and the reason Avatar gets so much praise is because it teaches the lesson "be a good person" and stops there if they had explored the consequences of choosing to be a good person or what makes bad people bad,it wouldn't be as successful
the animatrix is definitely better than the matrix. when it wants to be visually impressive, it is way more impressive than the matrix movies. if it wants to be deep it is way deeper than the matrix.
+Døde Brø its not deep most of the stories make no sense so they are nonsense. the art is pretty though man those are the exact same feelings i have about Adventure Time
icecream hero where do i start? did i say "every single story is extremely deep"? or even makes sense? and a story being in parts clichéd (cliché, learn to spell) doesn't mean it is shallow. if a story is deep or not is decided by a lot more than just the general outline of the plot. all i said is that all the highs of animatrix are way beyond what matrix ever accomplished.
+icecream hero if for you Animatrix look's the same than AT you don't have visual culture. The diference is iqual as you said that "bad taste" and The lord of the ring trilogie. Both from Peter Jackson
For the full matrix experience: The Matrix Animatrix Enter the Matrix - game Matrix Reloaded Matrix Revolutions Optional The Matrix: Path of Neo - game
Why? I ask this question not because i don't understand how depression feels But rather a question of Does this really make you depressed? Because i have seen some depressing shit... no,i thought about them Seeing things don't trully depress you Its thinking about that depressing thing is what really make you depressed.
Honestly what I took away from the Animatrix was that the Matrix just should have always been an anime. Yeah, making effectively a live-action anime was a neat idea and lead to some interesting action scenes, but...God damn, just look at these shorts. Why didn't the Wachowski's just team up with one of these artists to make an anime in the first place? These things are ridiculously cool, it makes me want to see an anime series based on this world. Not on the established characters because, honestly, they're the worst part of the films. Just set a story in this world and roll with it for 13-to-26 episodes.
There is a simple answer to that. Quoting wikipedia: Director Mamoru Oshii's 1995 animated film Ghost in the Shell was a particularly strong influence;[9] producer Joel Silver has stated that the Wachowskis first described their intentions for The Matrix by showing him that anime and saying, "We wanna do that for real".[90][91]
no one in japan would agree to colaborate with them to make an anime if they did not have the sucessfull movie franchise beforehand japanese animation industries are very wary of western collaborations
AkuTenshiiZero as a straight to TV setting now it would likely thrive, the matrix is essentially a product born of its time (millennial angst, prior to multiple years of foreign wars and political stresses) . doomed by the limits of the media situation at the time and the lack of sufficient lore and expanded content below the movie hype. The most ardent fans went crazy made mountains out of the molehills of info provided then the content bubble dried up and burst.
just cuz you make an iconic commercially successful franchise doesn't mean you can't have a career after it... what they really need is a network anime series, loose continuity
I don't *love* the Second Renaissance for the same reason Doug doesn't like it ("Humanity = evil" is shallow and easy to go for to get edge-points, gaping plot holes, etc.), But yeah, as a moment in its own, that seriously fucks with me. Especially considering it so closely resembles real-world transmisogynistic violence, particularly in the Middle-East and Indonesia, and we now know the Wachowksis are transwomen.
@@thoughtfuldevil6069 well we are evil. Look at the planet, the world would be better without us. Stop denying facts. Of course, not all humans are evil nature does not care that much.
@@zarpp9411 Humans aren't entirely good or evil, they contain multitudes. There are thousands of individual factors that motivate humans to do things that are for or against overall human well-being, which you can learn about in a psychology textbook. 'Humans are evil' is a two-dimensional, childish way of looking at the world; especially since we live in objectively the best time in all human history. If you disagree, show me a time in the past that was demonstrably better than now. I'm willing to bet real money you're a teenager who just discovered the "humans are evil bastards, look how edgy I am" as if this motif hasn't existed since Ancient Sumer. I used to feel the same way. The truth is misanthropy enables human evil, as well as personal irresponsibility. When you grow up, you stop using it as an excuse not to improve yourself and society, because it's things like that which lead to the suffering of yourself and others.
WTF, Both this guy and Chris Stuckmann didn't get World Record. It's not about going fast and physical abilities. It's about straining the will and the mind to such a degree that you wake up. It's about the desire to be free!
No, no no, its about physical ability over coming the matrix limit, no runner just runs to be free, they run to improve their speed and to show it off..you are stupid
@@thecircle8568 no it's belief. the same thing that wakes up The Kid and Dan Davis is belief. it's even the last sentence of the movie trilogy. at the end of Matrix Revolutions, Seraph asks The Oracle, "Did you always know?" and she says "Oh, no. But i believed."
>Wants the plot to make sense >When the story tries to explain itself it's "pretentious" I think your critique of The Second Renaissance is thin. It annoys me when people want a story conceived through imagination to make sense in all aspects. "Commentary is supposed to explain why or how something is the way it is." But this is not a thing that is. Noone knows if humanoids will ever be thing or not. It's based on things that don't exist. It's fiction. I enjoyed The Second Renaissance as an artistic short that focuses on what could happen if AI becomes humanlike, at the same time as it gives a basis for the matrix universe. I'm not saying it's perfect, but did you expect the short to give you long, detailed, scientific explanations on all the technology and history in it? Would you even have the patience to watch that? How did the first robot get a feeling of pride/worth, you ask. Why stop there? You could ask lots of questions like that: Why do humanity care about the currency of the machines, when 01 is isolated from the rest of the world? Since when is a machine immune to a fucking atombomb? How did the humans themselves intend to survive without the sun? If the machines are so technologically superior after the war, cant they just remove the fog from the sky and kill the humans instead of enslaving them? But again, I don't see the point of making these realitychecks. Especially not on a short like this.
Lasse Jensen each of their own, some prefer fictional theme where it doesn't make sense in common knowledge while others wants realistic situation to discuss/debate regarding the movie.
It is quite silly that EMPs work on the machines in the Matrix. As if the machines would not have engineered themselves to account for getting emped after the first time it happened. It's not like you can't make electronics that are EMP proof even in our time.
i agree for the most part, i always saw it as a 'documentary' of sorts, having an 'emotional connection' was never the intention, it seems like he is criticizing it because he wants it to be something it wasnt intended to be. That being said, blocking out the sun was unbearably stupid, i almost couldnt look past that.
+Timble well his website ran the videos using blip and blip is shutting down so he has to make sure everything is on youtube before all the blip videos get canned
The armor Duo is wearing even looks like Jack's at the start of the new season 5, do you think that was a subtle call back to this, the show did reference the matrix before with The Guardian?
+Evilriku13 I don't know if you're being sarcastic but, uhhh, I recall it being discussed in elementary science that light is another form of energy. Definitely the reason why solar panels work.
(Re-post From The League of Super Critics Upload) For those wondering, the reason the robot's breasts were censored at 4:26 but seconds later a man is killed with blood, viscera, and internal organs showing is because of RUclips censorship and western sensitivity. On RUclips, gratuitous sexual pandering is against the terms of service agreement. By uploading a naked female being beaten to death, even if the person is question is an animated robot, the video could be flagged and/or taken down. Now, the problem with this statement is that unnecessary gore is also banned in the RUclips terms and service, so what gives? Well, basically the American public hasn't really come to terms with sexuality in media yet. The nation was built on the philosophy of violence, the idea of gun play and bloodshed to win independence in the Revolutionary War. Because of this, America has had much more time to acclimate to violence and less time to things seen as taboo in the US like breasts. This is why Americans often see other cultures showing sexuality as "Perverted" or "Twisted". Most American citizens have always lived in an environment that promotes violence and ether ignores sex or maliciously uses unexplored sexual urges and primal tendencies to sell product. But that's a whole other comment, that I'd love to write but would take up a whole freakin' encyclopedia if I stared ranting about. TL;DR: Americans are okay with violence, but don't like sex. RUclips is the same. Hope that helped and made sense. :)
The Second renaissance was actually easy to understand, Self learning AI glitched, equal rights and all that etc... Human pride saw them as slaves, not as equals. Robots went independent, kept on doing what humans built them for in the first place, industrial work, soon they started making the best products and they became a presence in the global market. World leaders felt threatened that they might not be the world leaders soon if nothing changed so they decided to just eliminate the robots. Covering the sky wasn't the entire plan, it was just the first phase, they encircled the robot city to slowly starve them off energy but the robots were stronger than they thought, broke the encirclement and used humans as a source of energy. Theres a lot of small details that are hard to notice but for something that's less than 20 mins, it actually tells a clear and ironic story
You came into this with a negative bias, and it really shows. Your criticism of Second Renaissance rings especially hollow when you turn those same criticisms to any other sci-fi universes you like such as Star Wars or Brazil.
Second Renaissance is awesome, and my favorite of all of them, but he is absolutely right in saying that it's heavy handed in the "humanity is evil" pretentiousness. I wish operation dark storm was explained more, as well as how the machines seemed to survive it. Honestly, I wish second Renaissance was a full blown anime. Id totally watch it even if all the science isn't explained. Just the art and visuals was awesome to see
When I was like 9 or something we rented this movie with a friend, thinking it was like the matrix but animated. We were so wrong. When the dude got his head pressed til there was only his brain left... dude were we wrong.
I LOVED “The Second Renaissance”. There were a few things about it that didn’t quite make sense, but they were a very minor problem for me. I thought it was all very plausible and believable and I was totally sucked in, despite not having any particular characters to relate to.
@@Vertignasse82 Well as irritating as it is that he didn’t get the point Doug has a long history of doing that so it really comes as no surprise. Doug doesn’t have much of an imagination to begin with just look at the “movies” he’s “filmed” as someone wants fittingly put it a while back “The height of Doug’s artistic creativity is basically asking what would happen if Batman met Mario?
Even though I agree that RLM reviews are better, I agree with NC on second renasaince. There was very little substance in that short, and the effort put into animation was the only good thing about it.
The Animatrix is not perfect and not Amazing. But just like you said, it understand the medium it's using. It's very visual, and it does that in a very unique way.
Fun fact, I stumbled upon the dvd in my house as a kid and I wish I had been slightly older because the gore was....impressive. Overall I was pretty astounded.
Your critic for The Second Renaisance was pretty weak and not very good focused. I think you really underrated the short, because actually it's the best one from the Animatrix. It's not about how specifically happened, it's about human nature, and why they come to that point.
Wachowskis got money for 1st film, because they made nice visuals in first scene with Trinity. And studios wanted less dialogs and explanations about Matrix. First film had great balance between visuals and plot explanation. But in second and third movie studios invested so much, that visuals took over main story. Thanks to the Animatrix Matrix Reloaded and Revolution are more pleasant and understandabel to watch.
The second renaissance was my favorite, and it creeped me out. The thing is though, it's not a telling of a story. It's literally a history archive. One told (like most) in the view of the victors. At least that's how I took it.
It is actually possible for a machine to develop emotion.The only requirement is to have an artificial intelligence that can collect information which the robots in the animatrix appear to have.The actual science behind it i am not quite sure of but the idea is that it is actually possible.Also the reason why the robots did not die from lack of sunlight could be because they started to harvest humans for power before the matrix or that they only require the uv lights from the sun which cannot be blocked from clouds. Just over thinking.
You mean, like an archive of human emotions? How would that change anything? Sure, you can understand emotions intellectually and still not *feel* anything. What you're saying makes no sense. :/
yes, emotions is just a bunch of reactions to different events. nothing impossible for advanced AI. and there is the reason for thing as empathy. you don't just feel emotion, you think "what if this would happen to me". impose empathy on AI and you will get more merciful being than any man
It is great that Nostalgia Critic remembers the whole Matrix franchise, cause there is a lot to forget... Also, in respective years everything about The Matrix was so aggressively hyped that I surprised they does not rebooted it yet just to get people's nostalgic money. This one looks much more interesting then the sequels were. The advertising approach was that it is just another Matrix spin-off.
Well I liked the Second Renaissance part because it explained how stuff got that way. It doesn't make that much sense though, you're right about that. It's basically all just a metaphor for other kinds of oppression. In fact, the robot, accused of murdering his human masters, the first to gain artificial intelligence and a self-preservation instinct (ok but why isn't explained I'll give you that), is named B1-66-ER, or Bigger, like Bigger from 'Native Son'. So it's more like a metaphor for human oppression and saying that if we continue down the savage, war-like, tyrannical path we've been on in the past, we will, as the goddess-machine-lady said, become the architects of our own demise.
It just makes sense if anything else in The Matrix can be considered an acceptable break from reality. Everyone's cutoff is going to be different for that though.
+Rachael Lefler What bugs me is how it seems to try way to hard to make sure its clear that big evil mankind is totally at fault for everything that happened. Its just so hamfisted. Robot wants civil rights? Lets destroy them all in the ost sadistic ways possible! Robo economy destorying our economy? F*ck trade embargo's lets just nuke em'. Negotiations? What are those? Blocking out the sun is a great idea! its not like our own lives depend on sunlight... its all just so idiotic. Other stories that use the robot uprising atleast make a lot more sense in that regard... though they don't have a way of claiming mankind is at fault for everything, which is the narrative the martix wanted. There are other bits that bug me... like why did that first robot get a full public trial? If something like that happened investigators would have likely said the thing malfunctioned and just shipped it out to get dismantled. The thing wouldn't get a chance to argue for robo civil rights. Things like that just help weigh down the narrative, trying way to hard to make the robots sympathetic
+Rachael Lefler There are two things that don't make any sense to me, knowing what little I know about computer programming and robotics. 1.) The machines may be A.I. but they're still governed by their programming. 2.) Where is the "Master Off Switch?" There should've been some way to turn the machines off en mass just in case something like this happened.
Idk second Renaissance was was pretty good. It totally does explain why things escalate. Idk wtf nostalgia critic was talking about this time. He says “there’s no reason for escalation” literally while showing robots trying to be peaceful and humans killing them. It’s called visual storytelling. And OMG DETECTIVE STORY IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BEST ONES
I don't love the Second Renaissance for the same reason Doug doesn't like it ("Humanity = evil" is shallow and easy to go for to get edge-points, gaping plot holes, etc.), But yeah, as a moment in its own, that seriously fucks with me.
@@whiteeye9584 well it’s written from the robots point of view so that makes sense. LGBT? Mayb? I guess you can argue for that with the wachowskis, but a lot of the imagery is ww2 inspired so it’s pretty universal
Doug. The machines are a metaphor for plantlife. They make our oxygen, food, and shelter, and are "solar powered". We live our dreams out in THEIR masterpiece.
Program was animated by Yutaka Minowa who did Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. I recommend the anime, as Yutaka Minowa only touches what will become great.
I think the empty room of nothing in Beyond wasn't supposed to metaphorical at all or anything, I think it was just implying that she had seen a part of the glich that showed they she is living in a fake reality that is completely fabricated, basically revealing that she was in the Matrix. Also am i the only one who agrees with DUO in Program? I mean Second Ren made it pretty clear that the world is uninhabitable and the Matrix is really the only thing keeping us alive? Whether you are in the Matrix or not We go through life and then die, would your rather live in the Blissfully ignorant world or the Real shitty world fighting a battle you can't possible win and even if you did the world would still be miserable?
The two voice actors in Program are Phil LaMarr (best known as Samurai Jack) and Hedy Buress (best known as Yuna in FFX). So it's rather amusing that Yuna beats Jack in the short.
I was definitely emotionally invested in second renaissance, damn near gave me nightmares first time i watched it and it still is something i think about
My favorite is definitely Beyond, followed by Second Renaissance. The first has such amazingly mesmerizing atmosphere which leaves me with such a uniquely unsettling yet simultaneously happy feeling inside, while the latter has some stunning visuals and a very creepy narrator that really leaves an impact.
I think the reason the crew of the Osiris had to use the Matrix to get the message to Zion is because they had a notion they probably weren't going to be able to deliver the message themselves before quite possibly being killed in action. Not saying that's how it necessarily is for sure, but it seemed feasible.
I feel like you're missing the point with the robots having emotions. They had to give them emotions for them to function (craft them in their own image) and the economic incentives made it so they couldn't wait.
On the first point: you have to give the AI a utility function in which to act without adverse consequence. The more complicated the machine the harder it is to make one that also minimises unintended consequences. So, they have to turn to the only other sentient intelligence they know: humans. This explains why it took so long for a machine to murder and to act up etc. And the reason they didn't just wait/ not do it even though the risks were there was because money lol
Actually, Kid's Story was NOT written by the Washowskis. It was written and directed by Shin'ichirou Watanabe(known for directing Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo), who also wrote and directed A Detective's Story. Final Flight of the Osiris and The Second Renaissance were the only Wachowski-written shorts. The rest were done by people that write/direct/work in manga/anime in Japan.
This guy just doesn’t like the Wachowski brothers style of story telling. I’ll agree the flight of the Osiris is kinda.... lacking in story telling, but the history of the matrix part one and two are quite well done. You do have to watch it more than once to to get all the subtle story line details, but that’s actually what I like about them.
I thought the second renaissance was good, even if humanity’s choices weren’t what would happen in real life in terms of only going to the most extreme/bad option, aside from that it’s good and shows the machine side of things.
For some reason..I really *dislike* the whole look & aesthetic of _The Animatrix_. Which is weird considering the Matrix movies were basically live-action Anime movies.
Not everything needs an explanation or commentary. Use your imagination. Fill in the blanks. It can show you something more beautiful or terrifying and creative than what the creator actually intended.
Would have loved to see the "Utopian" Matrix also anyone remember that short lived comic series I saw it in stores but never got it and heard it got banned due to violence and gore.
the second renaissance part 1 plot is why I'm enjoying the current kamen rider so much, finally a hero you can connect with fighting for both sides and doing a damn good job of it
the kid is about transcedence, and how his faith was enough to awaken him...in the glitch, I see that area as an analogue to haunted houses and strange paranormal occurrences, and if she had stepped through that door she would have crossed over to the real world and probably saw something similar to what the runner saw in world record when he peeked through...but there wouldn't have been anyone there on the other side to pluck her out of the debris, and she would've been just another flush...so I guess it's better she didn't go through...
I was semi obsessed with the animatrix at 14 years old. Probably one of the reasons why I only work as a store supervisor and smoke weed alot at 30 years old.
6:27 yeah... for example my buttons As a teen I occasionally felt trapped in reality due to pressure from exams etc, and this made me identify with the first matrix However irl I usually tried to push these thoughts away and off course I never considered anything like suicide And when I watched Kid's story at roughly the same time as all this happened what I got from it is that not only is hardcore religious faith (which I was at the time distancing from) and suicide a perfect way out of my problems but they are the only real way to freedom and I am a member of the sheeple from not considering it. And yeah I know real life is not the matrix and I now it's meant to be symbolic and metaphorical and whatever but still a good symbolic story should be good even if taken literally and this story literally meant to me that in the matrix universe I would be a blue-piller simply because I dont want to run away from my problems, yeah nice message there, Wachowskis
OMG, a NC episode that wasn't bogged down by his shitty intro, dumb side plots, and horrible screaming and getting pissed off. More of them needed to be like this. It's hard to see him having nothing to be pissed off about.
20 years old! I found this on dvd back in the day Not all the short films work in my opinion But the different styles of animation and storytelling are to be commended plus they stick to the R-rating hard
just someone yea that'd be stupid af, but you know there's some looney coders out there that might create a dangerous A.I program once we have legit general intelligence A.I's, Elon Musk swears we're less than 5 years away from it
1:40 yeah phones need cell towers and sattellites to function, pretty sure the world of the Matrix had it setup where the machines controlled 100% of the surface area
theres people that wake up from the matrix by having a strong emotion that activates their brains, thats why theres people that can wakeup alone without any help from pills or shit. To me its a metaphor of breaking out of the system, like getting outside the stablished...dont know, seems like nostalgia critic just like to bitch about things making sense, like if he needs that they throw everything right in his face...a shitty review at best.
it was less the physical strength and more his mental state to transcend his physical limitations. This led to an alternative manner of "bending the spoon". There are no physical limitations to surpass, by pushing the limits of the program he ended up nearly breaking past the mental barriers of the Matrix.
My favorites are 2nd renaissance and World Record, I also like Beyond, but 2nd renaissance is just so damn special for me, sure there are many plot holes but many are rather easy to fill and I even think that's part of the fun.
I don't love the Second Renaissance for the same reason Doug doesn't like it ("Humanity = evil" is shallow and easy to go for to get edge-points, gaping plot holes, etc.), But yeah, as a moment in its own, that seriously fucks with me.
I honestly can't get past 3:40. Apparently you didn't actually watch The Animatrix. Everything you're complaining about is internally consistent. The A.I. was emergent. No one programmed it. 01 wasn't doing humanity's work for them, they were exporting goods desired by humanity. To the point that even though they were "banished," humanity still completely relied on the robots, such that human governments became "in debt" to the robots. You could have -sinned- had issue with that ridiculousness, but instead you bash it using something that is factually incorrect. Those are just two examples in under 4 minutes. There were a few more, but I just couldn't continue watching past that. Even though I love The Matrix, I agreed with a lot of your points on why it's just not great. But you're literally pulling shit *that is genuinely wrong* out of your ass for The Animatrix.
Draukagrissah "The A.I was emergent" He did mention that. What he wondered was, and it's a totally legitimate question, was how? A preprogrammed robot that isn't self learning can't just up and develop an A.I.
Actually no...unless you give an A.I. the capability to improve upon itself without regulated parameters it can't develope free will. There is a distinction between a weak and a strong A.I. and that is exactly the setting of these self improvement parameters, but as machines pretty much only work on set parameters it is obviously near impossible to create an strong A.I. in the first place. Also a strong A.I. can even in theory create a god (or something very akin to it) by designing a better machine and that an even better one until there is no distinction anymore between the created machine and an omnipotent being that can shape reality by simply willing it.
The Animatrix is what matrix sould all be about, stories showing people finding out the truth be themselves, sometimes they get themselves free, sometimes they ended stuck again in the matrix and sometimes they just die.
You know it's kinda funny. In a way Japan technically wasn't stealing from the source material with Animatrix. I just see it as them reclaiming what was originally theirs lol.
Well, Anime has taken a shitload from Disney cartoons, Bladerunner, Alien, Victorian fiction, renaissance era biblical imagery, Metropolis, German expressionism in general etc. Saying anything is "ours" or "theirs" comes across as pointless and narrow-minded to me. Without appropriation and integration all of our art would seriously stagnate.
I'd honestly take more of these. Some of the art is just so gorgeous also. I feel like that Thor the darkworld scene sure took inspiration from the Glitch part
Funnily enough, the Final Flight of the Osiris short is done by a defunct studio from Square Enix, who did the movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
I really wish they made more of these, maybe one that tells the origin of Smith and his desire to be free
Jake Bryant I know right? Smith is Soo interesting in the first movie
Smith was going to appear in The Second Renaissance Part 2. The Wachowskis vetoed director Mahiro Maeda for unknown reasons. Which is probably for the best because Smith deserves his own short rather than a quick cameo.
What if he was one of the agents in the world record?
Love, Death, and Robots is kinda like this
That Smith story is literally given by the start of part 2. For those that pay attention
I think the idea behind the one with the kid is that he believes without a doubt that he's in the matrix. He knows that nothing around him is real, and so when he jumps, through sheer willpower he can survive outside of the matrix. He dies in the matrix, but the matrix isn't real, so he's rejected by the machines and lives to tell the tale. Just like how in the movie they explain that the body outside of the matrix can tear itself apart simply by believing that it's being destroyed, the body can survive outside of the matrix even through death simply by understanding that death inside the matrix is not real. I think that's also probably how the first human escaped the matrix, simply through believing that the matrix cannot hurt him.
I am the Most High
@@sixthsense888 ok
Wrap your head around that shit
@@Woodchewer11I would've told if you didn't wrote everything in Capital Letters
The Kid who commits suicide, in his cartoon is the kid in the 2nd and 3rd Matrix films
I hated that kid.
Nobody cares about it billydeeuk
Ohhhh true yes
@@thecircle8568 212 people disagree
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The Last Flight of the Osiris is actually more of a reference in my opinion. You hear about it in The Matrix Reloaded at the beginning. During the meeting, they look at a bunch of photos and talk about all the drills and machines. I think all that info was from the package that she dropped in the mail box before the ship exploded. In my opinion, the Osiris is just a way for them to explain how they got the info, since you never hear about them again.
The film references the animation. and enter the matrix the game builds upon plot points in both. the message in the post is picked up and delivered in the game. it was kind of a cool idea to fracture the full story across 3 different mediums. the game was my favourite. driving missions were a bit clunky but the story was cool. great to see the main story from a different captains perspective
+NightSkyArchitect I will agree with you on that. There are quite a few references on the animation and the game. But you have to admit, the first chapter does kind of explain how they got all the info on the invasion in the second movie that happens in the final movie.
Would you consider "Kid's Story" to also be more of a reference, or would his appearance in the Matrix Trilogy have given them reason to make the animation?
I'd be more comfortable calling "Kid's Story" a backstory to the character in "Reloaded" and "Revolutions". Though I don't feel like he added too much to the story as a whole, the creation of his backstory in "Animatrix", in my opinion, was kind of a missing piece to the movies. It would have explained his existence more and given him more relevance, instead of making him sound and look like a Neo fanboy.
Sarus Drake
Ah right, don't know why "Backstory" never came to mind when I wrote that comment before.
The reason why The Second Renaissance is so ... confusing, is because it's written by the machines. Of COURSE they write humans off as the bad guys, it's because their the victors, any hero does that to their own story. And yes, they don't give reasons but to them that probably doesn't matter so much. It's ancient history for them, it happened, they accept it.
Tomaiki I want to write a robot story based on the scene with the robot
riding the robotic horse
Go for it!! It sounds amazing!
MEANT TO BE processors not energy sources
Weetabix and Frosties I'm sorry? I don't seem to understand. I didn't mention anything about processors or energy sources. Perhaps you could be a little more clear.
they're*
I think World Record is meant to answer the question "Is there a way to leave the Matrix without someone coming to get you?" while The Detective Story is meant to answer the question "Did they ever try breaking someone out of the Matrix but failed in doing so?"
My takeaway is this: Had the Matrix been done as an anime, over the course of several seasons, it could have been not just good, but incredible. With enough time to spread it out over, it wouldn't feel as heavy-handed with the message, and the opportunities to convey beautiful or intense experiences just for their own sake would have been amazing.
It could have explored all of the weird, artsy stuff, and all the beauty that can come from it, and more, without feeling cramped or inflexible. I feel that it had the potential to be on a level with shows like Avatar: TLA, if it had been done right.
trebacca9 My theory is that the Wachowskis basically tried to cram an entire anime series into 2 movies, which is why the sequels feel off-pace.
Eh I prefer the trilogy.
trebacca9 The Matrix didn't feel heavy-handed or cramped and the reason Avatar gets so much praise is because it teaches the lesson "be a good person" and stops there if they had explored the consequences of choosing to be a good person or what makes bad people bad,it wouldn't be as successful
Not to mention actual character depth and development.
It woulda have been waaay too similar to Ghost in the Shell and Akira
the animatrix is definitely better than the matrix.
when it wants to be visually impressive, it is way more impressive than the matrix movies.
if it wants to be deep it is way deeper than the matrix.
+Døde Brø its not deep most of the stories make no sense so they are nonsense. the art is pretty though man those are the exact same feelings i have about Adventure Time
+Døde Brø how is robots taking over the world deep if anything its cleche
icecream hero
where do i start?
did i say "every single story is extremely deep"? or even makes sense?
and a story being in parts clichéd (cliché, learn to spell) doesn't mean it is shallow.
if a story is deep or not is decided by a lot more than just the general outline of the plot.
all i said is that all the highs of animatrix are way beyond what matrix ever accomplished.
+icecream hero if for you Animatrix look's the same than AT you don't have visual culture. The diference is iqual as you said that "bad taste" and The lord of the ring trilogie. Both from Peter Jackson
odilonelchingon i ment they are both weird and barely make sense
For the full matrix experience:
The Matrix
Animatrix
Enter the Matrix - game
Matrix Reloaded
Matrix Revolutions
Optional
The Matrix: Path of Neo - game
Don't forget the lego movie. Probably the best matrix movie.
The matrix 4 is coming
Remember, avoid the meadow.
Just watch the original Matrix and the Animatrix and then you're done.
@@Sektion9 lol Wut? No
It's still man vs machines! Watch them all.
I felt the Animatrix makes the trilogy into better films by adding the much needed lore to the universe.
3 words after i watched it : im. super. depressed.
ME What the fuck
feed me seymour
at least you're super
Why?
I ask this question not because i don't understand how depression feels
But rather a question of
Does this really make you depressed?
Because i have seen some depressing shit...
no,i thought about them
Seeing things don't trully depress you
Its thinking about that depressing thing is what really make you depressed.
Yeah welcome to life.
Honestly what I took away from the Animatrix was that the Matrix just should have always been an anime. Yeah, making effectively a live-action anime was a neat idea and lead to some interesting action scenes, but...God damn, just look at these shorts. Why didn't the Wachowski's just team up with one of these artists to make an anime in the first place? These things are ridiculously cool, it makes me want to see an anime series based on this world. Not on the established characters because, honestly, they're the worst part of the films. Just set a story in this world and roll with it for 13-to-26 episodes.
There is a simple answer to that. Quoting wikipedia: Director Mamoru Oshii's 1995 animated film Ghost in the Shell was a particularly strong influence;[9] producer Joel Silver has stated that the Wachowskis first described their intentions for The Matrix by showing him that anime and saying, "We wanna do that for real".[90][91]
so, the basic idea for Matrix from the begging was to take an anime and make it live-action.
no one in japan would agree to colaborate with them to make an anime if they did not have the sucessfull movie franchise beforehand
japanese animation industries are very wary of western collaborations
AkuTenshiiZero as a straight to TV setting now it would likely thrive, the matrix is essentially a product born of its time (millennial angst, prior to multiple years of foreign wars and political stresses) . doomed by the limits of the media situation at the time and the lack of sufficient lore and expanded content below the movie hype. The most ardent fans went crazy made mountains out of the molehills of info provided then the content bubble dried up and burst.
just cuz you make an iconic commercially successful franchise doesn't mean you can't have a career after it... what they really need is a network anime series, loose continuity
That scene in the second renaissance with the female robot getting hammered to death gets to me every time. Am I the only one?
its just a robot, whats so bad about it?
I don't *love* the Second Renaissance for the same reason Doug doesn't like it ("Humanity = evil" is shallow and easy to go for to get edge-points, gaping plot holes, etc.), But yeah, as a moment in its own, that seriously fucks with me. Especially considering it so closely resembles real-world transmisogynistic violence, particularly in the Middle-East and Indonesia, and we now know the Wachowksis are transwomen.
@@thoughtfuldevil6069 well we are evil. Look at the planet, the world would be better without us. Stop denying facts. Of course, not all humans are evil nature does not care that much.
@@thoughtfuldevil6069 this is a fact we can not argue against. However, we can always try to do better in the future.
@@zarpp9411 Humans aren't entirely good or evil, they contain multitudes. There are thousands of individual factors that motivate humans to do things that are for or against overall human well-being, which you can learn about in a psychology textbook. 'Humans are evil' is a two-dimensional, childish way of looking at the world; especially since we live in objectively the best time in all human history. If you disagree, show me a time in the past that was demonstrably better than now.
I'm willing to bet real money you're a teenager who just discovered the "humans are evil bastards, look how edgy I am" as if this motif hasn't existed since Ancient Sumer. I used to feel the same way. The truth is misanthropy enables human evil, as well as personal irresponsibility. When you grow up, you stop using it as an excuse not to improve yourself and society, because it's things like that which lead to the suffering of yourself and others.
These animations look more interesting then the matrix films.
They are.
+fury *than
+Night Flier 777 i knew someone would correct me. I couldn't correct myself since i wrote this on a ipad.
fury Lol, sorry. I just had to be "that guy". :P
Good to know your self aware...
WTF, Both this guy and Chris Stuckmann didn't get World Record. It's not about going fast and physical abilities. It's about straining the will and the mind to such a degree that you wake up. It's about the desire to be free!
agreed
No, no no, its about physical ability over coming the matrix limit, no runner just runs to be free, they run to improve their speed and to show it off..you are stupid
@@thecircle8568 I guess the kid was falling with a greater gravitational acceleration than 9.81 then. Don't talk stupid shit.
@@thecircle8568 no it's belief. the same thing that wakes up The Kid and Dan Davis is belief. it's even the last sentence of the movie trilogy. at the end of Matrix Revolutions, Seraph asks The Oracle, "Did you always know?" and she says "Oh, no. But i believed."
>Wants the plot to make sense
>When the story tries to explain itself it's "pretentious"
I think your critique of The Second Renaissance is thin.
It annoys me when people want a story conceived through imagination to make sense in all aspects. "Commentary is supposed to explain why or how something is the way it is." But this is not a thing that is. Noone knows if humanoids will ever be thing or not. It's based on things that don't exist. It's fiction.
I enjoyed The Second Renaissance as an artistic short that focuses on what could happen if AI becomes humanlike, at the same time as it gives a basis for the matrix universe. I'm not saying it's perfect, but did you expect the short to give you long, detailed, scientific explanations on all the technology and history in it? Would you even have the patience to watch that?
How did the first robot get a feeling of pride/worth, you ask. Why stop there? You could ask lots of questions like that: Why do humanity care about the currency of the machines, when 01 is isolated from the rest of the world? Since when is a machine immune to a fucking atombomb? How did the humans themselves intend to survive without the sun? If the machines are so technologically superior after the war, cant they just remove the fog from the sky and kill the humans instead of enslaving them? But again, I don't see the point of making these realitychecks. Especially not on a short like this.
Lasse Jensen each of their own, some prefer fictional theme where it doesn't make sense in common knowledge while others wants realistic situation to discuss/debate regarding the movie.
If thats the case, are you annoyed by ghost in the shell? (the anime stand alone complex and original manga)
Lasse Jensen even tho it's sort of unbelievable they could just fire a EMP in the sky and you can stop all that from happening...
It is quite silly that EMPs work on the machines in the Matrix. As if the machines would not have engineered themselves to account for getting emped after the first time it happened. It's not like you can't make electronics that are EMP proof even in our time.
i agree for the most part, i always saw it as a 'documentary'
of sorts, having an 'emotional connection' was never the intention, it seems like he is criticizing it because he wants it to be something it wasnt intended to be. That being said, blocking out the sun was unbearably stupid, i almost couldnt look past that.
Isn't this like, the 3rd time all these Matrix things been re-uploaded?..
+Swagbito Uchiha first i think. first time he uploaded it on the league of super critics and reuploaded it now
Timble most are just other people that upload his old and some new content. and he moved channels because copyright
Nope. Second I believe...
+Timble well his website ran the videos using blip and blip is shutting down so he has to make sure everything is on youtube before all the blip videos get canned
+Nicklis man. what a mess, huh?
7:27 Huh, Phil Lamarr is voicing a samurai, I feel like I've heard that somewhere before......
The armor Duo is wearing even looks like Jack's at the start of the new season 5, do you think that was a subtle call back to this, the show did reference the matrix before with The Guardian?
Samurai jack?
love the show.
Fun fact: I watched this when I was a kid. A REALLY small kid. And it fucked me up. It also made me fear robots for several years.
Explaining things is overrated. Sometimes, I like things to be mysterious and leave a lot to the imagination.
+Mike Hab What's weird is that blocking out the sun not working was explained in "The Matrix."
+Mike Hab Maybe. Not if it is a vital plotpoint tought
since when do ALL robots need light to work? Humans need them, machine needs energy
Lack of logic ≠ mystery
+Evilriku13 I don't know if you're being sarcastic but, uhhh, I recall it being discussed in elementary science that light is another form of energy. Definitely the reason why solar panels work.
(Re-post From The League of Super Critics Upload)
For those wondering, the reason the robot's breasts were censored at 4:26 but seconds later a man is killed with blood, viscera, and internal organs showing is because of RUclips censorship and western sensitivity. On RUclips, gratuitous sexual pandering is against the terms of service agreement. By uploading a naked female being beaten to death, even if the person is question is an animated robot, the video could be flagged and/or taken down. Now, the problem with this statement is that unnecessary gore is also banned in the RUclips terms and service, so what gives? Well, basically the American public hasn't really come to terms with sexuality in media yet. The nation was built on the philosophy of violence, the idea of gun play and bloodshed to win independence in the Revolutionary War. Because of this, America has had much more time to acclimate to violence and less time to things seen as taboo in the US like breasts. This is why Americans often see other cultures showing sexuality as "Perverted" or "Twisted". Most American citizens have always lived in an environment that promotes violence and ether ignores sex or maliciously uses unexplored sexual urges and primal tendencies to sell product.
But that's a whole other comment, that I'd love to write but would take up a whole freakin' encyclopedia if I stared ranting about.
TL;DR: Americans are okay with violence, but don't like sex. RUclips is the same.
Hope that helped and made sense. :)
"Americans are ok with violence,but don't like sex"
GG,America's society,GG
+Aaron Steven Does't American society like both sex and violence? Just stating the obvious.
Yes, but sex is used more so as a cash-in on hormonal impulses. Usually in advertisements.
+Fancy Scott the hell do you mean guts and gore is unnatural
+Ludic Gamer yeah except, the UK and Canada also sensor nudity, and were built on different ideals so your point is kinda moot.
The Second renaissance was actually easy to understand,
Self learning AI glitched, equal rights and all that etc... Human pride saw them as slaves, not as equals. Robots went independent, kept on doing what humans built them for in the first place, industrial work, soon they started making the best products and they became a presence in the global market. World leaders felt threatened that they might not be the world leaders soon if nothing changed so they decided to just eliminate the robots.
Covering the sky wasn't the entire plan, it was just the first phase, they encircled the robot city to slowly starve them off energy but the robots were stronger than they thought, broke the encirclement and used humans as a source of energy.
Theres a lot of small details that are hard to notice but for something that's less than 20 mins, it actually tells a clear and ironic story
I'm glad you saw it that way. Even though AI is artificial, it's still intelligence. And it can evolve itself for good or for worse.
each of the shorts are so wildly different from each other that everyone is bound to like at least one of them.
You came into this with a negative bias, and it really shows. Your criticism of Second Renaissance rings especially hollow when you turn those same criticisms to any other sci-fi universes you like such as Star Wars or Brazil.
Exactly...
Thank you 👏🏼
Second Renaissance is awesome, and my favorite of all of them, but he is absolutely right in saying that it's heavy handed in the "humanity is evil" pretentiousness.
I wish operation dark storm was explained more, as well as how the machines seemed to survive it. Honestly, I wish second Renaissance was a full blown anime. Id totally watch it even if all the science isn't explained. Just the art and visuals was awesome to see
Brazil? 🤔🤮
But yeah second renaissance I liked and didn't understand how the critic couldn't understand the point behind it.
When I was like 9 or something we rented this movie with a friend, thinking it was like the matrix but animated. We were so wrong. When the dude got his head pressed til there was only his brain left... dude were we wrong.
omg same here haha, pretty disturbing
I fucking love this movie! It's easily so much more visually striking and intriguing than the actual series.
I LOVED “The Second Renaissance”. There were a few things about it that didn’t quite make sense, but they were a very minor problem for me. I thought it was all very plausible and believable and I was totally sucked in, despite not having any particular characters to relate to.
I believe it's supposed to be told from the machine perspective. Which explains why humanity was cruel and so easily defeated by the machines
@@somerandomguy6767 Exactly. Told by robots from their archives. I was disappointed he didn't get it and questioned the "useless" violence.
@@Vertignasse82
Well as irritating as it is that he didn’t get the point Doug has a long history of doing that so it really comes as no surprise. Doug doesn’t have much of an imagination to begin with just look at the “movies” he’s “filmed” as someone wants fittingly put it a while back “The height of Doug’s artistic creativity is basically asking what would happen if Batman met Mario?
why? humans are two dimensional villans here
Your critique of the second renasaince is very harsh, and unjustly so in my opinion.
Even though I agree that RLM reviews are better, I agree with NC on second renasaince. There was very little substance in that short, and the effort put into animation was the only good thing about it.
Ur a prissy little bitch it sucked and nc was correct
The Animatrix is not perfect and not Amazing. But just like you said, it understand the medium it's using. It's very visual, and it does that in a very unique way.
I enjoyed the ani matrix more than the movies I thought there was more lore and backstory in this than the actual movies
NOW I remember were the Thor 2 "glitch" gag came from.
The first thing I thought of when I saw that was that they'd entered the Animatrix.
Fun fact, I stumbled upon the dvd in my house as a kid and I wish I had been slightly older because the gore was....impressive. Overall I was pretty astounded.
Your critic for The Second Renaisance was pretty weak and not very good focused.
I think you really underrated the short, because actually it's the best one from the Animatrix.
It's not about how specifically happened, it's about human nature, and why they come to that point.
I agree the second renaissance was very aesthetic about human nature in a dark tone
I think it was comically OTT making the humans super bad and stupid just to try and be deep.
Wachowskis got money for 1st film, because they made nice visuals in first scene with Trinity. And studios wanted less dialogs and explanations about Matrix. First film had great balance between visuals and plot explanation. But in second and third movie studios invested so much, that visuals took over main story. Thanks to the Animatrix Matrix Reloaded and Revolution are more pleasant and understandabel to watch.
DOSsector nah, the sequels had too much talking.
That toaster bit was hilarious.
I think the directors of Thor the dark world were watching animatrix, more precisely the one with the glitch, when they made the first part.
The second renaissance was my favorite, and it creeped me out. The thing is though, it's not a telling of a story. It's literally a history archive. One told (like most) in the view of the victors. At least that's how I took it.
It is actually possible for a machine to develop emotion.The only requirement is to have an artificial intelligence that can collect information which the robots in the animatrix appear to have.The actual science behind it i am not quite sure of but the idea is that it is actually possible.Also the reason why the robots did not die from lack of sunlight could be because they started to harvest humans for power before the matrix or that they only require the uv lights from the sun which cannot be blocked from clouds. Just over thinking.
You mean, like an archive of human emotions? How would that change anything? Sure, you can understand emotions intellectually and still not *feel* anything. What you're saying makes no sense. :/
Lisa Galarza I saw something about it on a treecicle vid so idon't really know the fine details
Actually the Robots A.I. evolved and kept evolving, getting stronger and smarter that is why they were able to survive without the sun.
Lisa Zoria a human brain is nothing more then a bunch of chemical reactions. No reason a bunch of electrical reactions cant do the same.
yes, emotions is just a bunch of reactions to different events. nothing impossible for advanced AI. and there is the reason for thing as empathy. you don't just feel emotion, you think "what if this would happen to me". impose empathy on AI and you will get more merciful being than any man
It is great that Nostalgia Critic remembers the whole Matrix franchise, cause there is a lot to forget... Also, in respective years everything about The Matrix was so aggressively hyped that I surprised they does not rebooted it yet just to get people's nostalgic money. This one looks much more interesting then the sequels were. The advertising approach was that it is just another Matrix spin-off.
"what if I told you you were a critic in the matrix''
Well I liked the Second Renaissance part because it explained how stuff got that way. It doesn't make that much sense though, you're right about that. It's basically all just a metaphor for other kinds of oppression. In fact, the robot, accused of murdering his human masters, the first to gain artificial intelligence and a self-preservation instinct (ok but why isn't explained I'll give you that), is named B1-66-ER, or Bigger, like Bigger from 'Native Son'. So it's more like a metaphor for human oppression and saying that if we continue down the savage, war-like, tyrannical path we've been on in the past, we will, as the goddess-machine-lady said, become the architects of our own demise.
It just makes sense if anything else in The Matrix can be considered an acceptable break from reality. Everyone's cutoff is going to be different for that though.
+Rachael Lefler What bugs me is how it seems to try way to hard to make sure its clear that big evil mankind is totally at fault for everything that happened. Its just so hamfisted. Robot wants civil rights? Lets destroy them all in the ost sadistic ways possible! Robo economy destorying our economy? F*ck trade embargo's lets just nuke em'. Negotiations? What are those? Blocking out the sun is a great idea! its not like our own lives depend on sunlight... its all just so idiotic. Other stories that use the robot uprising atleast make a lot more sense in that regard... though they don't have a way of claiming mankind is at fault for everything, which is the narrative the martix wanted.
There are other bits that bug me... like why did that first robot get a full public trial? If something like that happened investigators would have likely said the thing malfunctioned and just shipped it out to get dismantled. The thing wouldn't get a chance to argue for robo civil rights. Things like that just help weigh down the narrative, trying way to hard to make the robots sympathetic
+Rachael Lefler There are two things that don't make any sense to me, knowing what little I know about computer programming and robotics.
1.) The machines may be A.I. but they're still governed by their programming.
2.) Where is the "Master Off Switch?" There should've been some way to turn the machines off en mass just in case something like this happened.
+Gootothesecond what if there was a master switch that apple could use to turn off all i phones
icecream hero Right? Though I could've used that a few years ago when I was still in the mobile industry.
The backstory of the Matrix reminds me of Astro Boy 2003. It's basically what would've happened if Astro wasn't around and nothing made sense.
reminds me of the lore of over watch. only less fun
Idk second Renaissance was was pretty good. It totally does explain why things escalate. Idk wtf nostalgia critic was talking about this time. He says “there’s no reason for escalation” literally while showing robots trying to be peaceful and humans killing them. It’s called visual storytelling. And OMG DETECTIVE STORY IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BEST ONES
I don't love the Second Renaissance for the same reason Doug doesn't like it ("Humanity = evil" is shallow and easy to go for to get edge-points, gaping plot holes, etc.), But yeah, as a moment in its own, that seriously fucks with me.
@@whiteeye9584 I don’t think it’s “humans are evil” I think its “humans don’t care about machines” which seems pretty accurate to me
@@tumsfestival8027 they still potray them as evil
plus this second animatrix for me is alegory for lgbt wich is sad
@@whiteeye9584 well it’s written from the robots point of view so that makes sense. LGBT? Mayb? I guess you can argue for that with the wachowskis, but a lot of the imagery is ww2 inspired so it’s pretty universal
in the 2nd renaissance the reason the whole war happens might be dumb in retrospect but ive seen wars fought over dumber reasons
Also, it's told from the Machines' point of view.
Doug.
The machines are a metaphor for plantlife.
They make our oxygen, food, and shelter, and are "solar powered". We live our dreams out in THEIR masterpiece.
You have nothing.
'The Kid' & 'World Record' are definitely my favourites of the set.
The runner sequence is my favourite both in art style and music they used for it.
Program was animated by Yutaka Minowa who did Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust. I recommend the anime, as Yutaka Minowa only touches what will become great.
kittyanya Also behind Ninja Scroll and some other Studio MadHouse classics!
I think the empty room of nothing in Beyond wasn't supposed to metaphorical at all or anything, I think it was just implying that she had seen a part of the glich that showed they she is living in a fake reality that is completely fabricated, basically revealing that she was in the Matrix.
Also am i the only one who agrees with DUO in Program? I mean Second Ren made it pretty clear that the world is uninhabitable and the Matrix is really the only thing keeping us alive? Whether you are in the Matrix or not We go through life and then die, would your rather live in the Blissfully ignorant world or the Real shitty world fighting a battle you can't possible win and even if you did the world would still be miserable?
Guess the Omnics didn't take humanity too lightly when it was first programmed...
Exzenosis Harbingaar your profile pics matches so perfectly. Is even a Necron!
The two voice actors in Program are Phil LaMarr (best known as Samurai Jack) and Hedy Buress (best known as Yuna in FFX). So it's rather amusing that Yuna beats Jack in the short.
I was definitely emotionally invested in second renaissance, damn near gave me nightmares first time i watched it and it still is something i think about
My favorite is definitely Beyond, followed by Second Renaissance. The first has such amazingly mesmerizing atmosphere which leaves me with such a uniquely unsettling yet simultaneously happy feeling inside, while the latter has some stunning visuals and a very creepy narrator that really leaves an impact.
dude you should get away from your toaster
I think the reason the crew of the Osiris had to use the Matrix to get the message to Zion is because they had a notion they probably weren't going to be able to deliver the message themselves before quite possibly being killed in action. Not saying that's how it necessarily is for sure, but it seemed feasible.
I feel like you're missing the point with the robots having emotions. They had to give them emotions for them to function (craft them in their own image) and the economic incentives made it so they couldn't wait.
On the first point: you have to give the AI a utility function in which to act without adverse consequence. The more complicated the machine the harder it is to make one that also minimises unintended consequences. So, they have to turn to the only other sentient intelligence they know: humans. This explains why it took so long for a machine to murder and to act up etc.
And the reason they didn't just wait/ not do it even though the risks were there was because money lol
Also also: what is 'logical' is in the eye of the beholder. People who use it vaguely are usually projecting misunderstandings.
Actually, Kid's Story was NOT written by the Washowskis. It was written and directed by Shin'ichirou Watanabe(known for directing Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo), who also wrote and directed A Detective's Story. Final Flight of the Osiris and The Second Renaissance were the only Wachowski-written shorts. The rest were done by people that write/direct/work in manga/anime in Japan.
It's time for Animatriax!
Where we steal from each other!
This guy just doesn’t like the Wachowski brothers style of story telling. I’ll agree the flight of the Osiris is kinda.... lacking in story telling, but the history of the matrix part one and two are quite well done. You do have to watch it more than once to to get all the subtle story line details, but that’s actually what I like about them.
honestly, i think the second renaissance was the best one of the bunch.
I am still so glad my brother got me this as a holiday gift so long ago
I thought the second renaissance was good, even if humanity’s choices weren’t what would happen in real life in terms of only going to the most extreme/bad option, aside from that it’s good and shows the machine side of things.
You should review "Batman: Gotham Knight" which takes place between "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight"
For some reason..I really *dislike* the whole look & aesthetic of _The Animatrix_.
Which is weird considering the Matrix movies were basically live-action Anime movies.
+Paradox Acres Why?
kabliekke Just a personal preference thing, I guess.
Exactly how I feel. I like the animated version over the movies, but the art style is just ugly to me.
@@TheZephyrsWind but the art style is different depending on the shorts .....
Not everything needs an explanation or commentary. Use your imagination. Fill in the blanks. It can show you something more beautiful or terrifying and creative than what the creator actually intended.
Would have loved to see the "Utopian" Matrix also anyone remember that short lived comic series I saw it in stores but never got it and heard it got banned due to violence and gore.
the second renaissance part 1 plot is why I'm enjoying the current kamen rider so much, finally a hero you can connect with fighting for both sides and doing a damn good job of it
They reprogram the machines like the T-800’s outta terminator
"The case to end all cases" was hands down my favorit
the kid is about transcedence, and how his faith was enough to awaken him...in the glitch, I see that area as an analogue to haunted houses and strange paranormal occurrences, and if she had stepped through that door she would have crossed over to the real world and probably saw something similar to what the runner saw in world record when he peeked through...but there wouldn't have been anyone there on the other side to pluck her out of the debris, and she would've been just another flush...so I guess it's better she didn't go through...
I was semi obsessed with the animatrix at 14 years old. Probably one of the reasons why I only work as a store supervisor and smoke weed alot at 30 years old.
Anyone noticed that the samurai at 7:30 - 7:40 sounds a lot like Samurai Jack?
It is Samurai Jack
I loved World Record, but it's impossible to pick a favorite among these: it definitely wasn't "Last Flight" though.
i dislike the theory that machines wrote the second renascence as propaganda because the story was a twist on the whole machines take over thing
These shorts were so much fun!
[Except the Renaissance!]
And they all looked so good!
I actually really want to see these. They actually look a lot better than the actual movie's
6:27 yeah... for example my buttons
As a teen I occasionally felt trapped in reality due to pressure from exams etc, and this made me identify with the first matrix
However irl I usually tried to push these thoughts away and off course I never considered anything like suicide
And when I watched Kid's story at roughly the same time as all this happened what I got from it is that not only is hardcore religious faith (which I was at the time distancing from) and suicide a perfect way out of my problems but they are the only real way to freedom and I am a member of the sheeple from not considering it.
And yeah I know real life is not the matrix and I now it's meant to be symbolic and metaphorical and whatever but still a good symbolic story should be good even if taken literally and this story literally meant to me that in the matrix universe I would be a blue-piller simply because I dont want to run away from my problems, yeah nice message there, Wachowskis
Would love to see a animated series of The Matrix if its ever considered.
Same
I would love to see a banter between Doug Walker and Chris Stuckmann because of the Matrix and Signs.
The first one is literally Rouge One
Which was just Halo Reach
“You will never live that down.”
I wonder what he’s thinking after seeing John Wick.
OMG, a NC episode that wasn't bogged down by his shitty intro, dumb side plots, and horrible screaming and getting pissed off. More of them needed to be like this. It's hard to see him having nothing to be pissed off about.
20 years old!
I found this on dvd back in the day
Not all the short films work in my opinion
But the different styles of animation and storytelling are to be commended plus they stick to the R-rating hard
"It makes no sense" = I dont understand the story
Cause it actually does make sense and is fairly possible if A.I is created with a will to survive
But why would someone give Robot slaves Freewill or at the very least have Asimov laws.
just someone yea that'd be stupid af, but you know there's some looney coders out there that might create a dangerous A.I program once we have legit general intelligence A.I's, Elon Musk swears we're less than 5 years away from it
NoxDeadly There are a surprising number of scientists who plan on forcing the singularity at all costs.
nah it dosent XD
1:40 yeah phones need cell towers and sattellites to function, pretty sure the world of the Matrix had it setup where the machines controlled 100% of the surface area
Program is my favorite too :D
Something I noticed in this is in the english version, the agent is played by the same guy in every short that has an agent.
A detective story
Kid's story
World Record
Are my top 3
3:20 it's a ghost in the machine thing, they started to evolve
theres people that wake up from the matrix by having a strong emotion that activates their brains, thats why theres people that can wakeup alone without any help from pills or shit. To me its a metaphor of breaking out of the system, like getting outside the stablished...dont know, seems like nostalgia critic just like to bitch about things making sense, like if he needs that they throw everything right in his face...a shitty review at best.
But he liked the idea of physical strength allowing someone to wake up (at least partially) on their own.
Its obvious there's a strong bias here as Doug hasn't shied away from his dislike of the entire Matrix story and concept...
it was less the physical strength and more his mental state to transcend his physical limitations. This led to an alternative manner of "bending the spoon". There are no physical limitations to surpass, by pushing the limits of the program he ended up nearly breaking past the mental barriers of the Matrix.
My favorites are 2nd renaissance and World Record, I also like Beyond, but 2nd renaissance is just so damn special for me, sure there are many plot holes but many are rather easy to fill and I even think that's part of the fun.
I don't love the Second Renaissance for the same reason Doug doesn't like it ("Humanity = evil" is shallow and easy to go for to get edge-points, gaping plot holes, etc.), But yeah, as a moment in its own, that seriously fucks with me.
I honestly can't get past 3:40. Apparently you didn't actually watch The Animatrix. Everything you're complaining about is internally consistent.
The A.I. was emergent. No one programmed it.
01 wasn't doing humanity's work for them, they were exporting goods desired by humanity. To the point that even though they were "banished," humanity still completely relied on the robots, such that human governments became "in debt" to the robots. You could have -sinned- had issue with that ridiculousness, but instead you bash it using something that is factually incorrect.
Those are just two examples in under 4 minutes. There were a few more, but I just couldn't continue watching past that.
Even though I love The Matrix, I agreed with a lot of your points on why it's just not great. But you're literally pulling shit *that is genuinely wrong* out of your ass for The Animatrix.
Draukagrissah "The A.I was emergent" He did mention that. What he wondered was, and it's a totally legitimate question, was how? A preprogrammed robot that isn't self learning can't just up and develop an A.I.
Japneet Dhaliwal The danger of imergence come from putting a computer in charge of communicating with and updating the robots.
Actually no...unless you give an A.I. the capability to improve upon itself without regulated parameters it can't develope free will. There is a distinction between a weak and a strong A.I. and that is exactly the setting of these self improvement parameters, but as machines pretty much only work on set parameters it is obviously near impossible to create an strong A.I. in the first place.
Also a strong A.I. can even in theory create a god (or something very akin to it) by designing a better machine and that an even better one until there is no distinction anymore between the created machine and an omnipotent being that can shape reality by simply willing it.
The Animatrix is what matrix sould all be about, stories showing people finding out the truth be themselves, sometimes they get themselves free, sometimes they ended stuck again in the matrix and sometimes they just die.
You know it's kinda funny. In a way Japan technically wasn't stealing from the source material with Animatrix. I just see it as them reclaiming what was originally theirs lol.
Well, Anime has taken a shitload from Disney cartoons, Bladerunner, Alien, Victorian fiction, renaissance era biblical imagery, Metropolis, German expressionism in general etc. Saying anything is "ours" or "theirs" comes across as pointless and narrow-minded to me. Without appropriation and integration all of our art would seriously stagnate.
@joe mcnoe anime ripped of Western media.
Happy?
Love how each one of those shorts has their own Art-Style. GOLD!!!! :D
The Second Renaissance story - is one big plot-hole.
I'd honestly take more of these. Some of the art is just so gorgeous
also. I feel like that Thor the darkworld scene sure took inspiration from the Glitch part
3:50 isn't that what America does? What's so hard to believe about that?
TovarischAleks hahaha yeah, ok...
No American is made up of plenty different countries dumbass
Funnily enough, the Final Flight of the Osiris short is done by a defunct studio from Square Enix, who did the movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.
Sooo... People don't like when things are not explained, but when they explained the Force... Nobody liked it
Time to be... hypocritical!