5 big mistakes people make hammock camping
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- We all start somewhere and we all make mistakes for sure. I'm no exception to this rule. Hammock camping is one of those things that can take a while to get really dialed in since they don't come with instructions. Watch as I go over how to hang a hammock and how to properly lay in a hammock.
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Tim , Even in the Semi tropics like Florida during the wee hours of a summers morning I get the cold butt syndrome. I go to bed without anything under me. Then in the early morning hours roll over and slide a partially inflated , self inflating , Threm-a-rest mattress under me.
If you are going to use a hammock for camping get a good one designed for camping. The best I found is a double bottom one which will stop the mosquitoes from biting your back as you sleep.
If you are new to hammock camping or thinking about it then do yourself a BIG favor. Spend a couple bucks and get Derek Hansen's book. THE ULTIMATE HANG , an illustrated guide to Hammock Camping.
I have been camping in hammocks for over 60 years and I learned things by reading his book plus it is a fun read.
ultimate hang 2 is out, and 3x the book!
Thank you so much for posting. I have been looking for answer's specific to Florida and most people swear the mosquito's cannot bite through the fabric. How do you keep cool in June - August? Is there a specific one you recommended for south Florida? I'll be under a roof but the bugs worry me. It's not really camping it's for when an animal gets sick and I need to be in the barn/close by in case things go badly. We have horrible mosquito problems that are known carriers for Dengue fever and encephalitis. I'd like to avoid meningitis again 🤦 any advice would be greatly appreciated
@@Caliekat15 as a new hammock camper in Florida, I didn’t even think about skeeters biting your backside. Thanks for the heads up!
instablaster.
How are the other Super Troopers doing?
Leeroy BrotatoChip Jenkins , holy fuck! right!
Totally beat me to it!
Beat me to it.
"WHO WANTS A MUSTACHE RIDE?!" 😆
Car ram-rod
The first time I went backpacking I bought a cheap hammock from walmart. Went in northern PA in mid November without a pad or underquilt. I was so uninformed.. Spent the night fighting the cold while mulitple packs of coyotes (on either side of me) yip-howled very loudly, getting closer as the night went on... Only got 1 hour of sleep and decided to hike out the next morning.
I had a blast and don't regret anything.
Matt Williams Sounds a lot like my first trip where I didn't know that bladders can take on the flavor of scented soaps and didn't have any water 😂 Miserable in the moment but a total blast in hind sight!
I was recently in The Delaware Water Gap and set up my hammock (same one you have) for the first time, It was 87 degrees out and I couldn't believe how chilly the bottom of the hammock was, It was super refreshing at the time cause I was hiking all day, but I can see it being wicked cold at night. Glad the coyotes didn't eat you haha.
@@MrHerks to
Thanks for all the sleepless nights, trials and errors you experienced so we don’t have to just figure it out for ourselves. It’s appreciated.
Happy I watched this BEFORE hammock camping for the first time lol. Saved me like 5 years of learning from miserable experiences!
For under insulation, I use a reflective pad that's designed for windscreens in the summer, works perfect.
Good tips. I would add not to stack hammocks on the same trees to the list. I've been hammock camping for three years and I totally banana lay - so comfortable for me! Love the hammocking philosophy of HANG YOUR OWN HANG (meaning - do what is best and comfortable for you with your set up)
Yup sometimes the banana works for people. You're probably the second person I've come across who prefers it.
Are you on hammockforums.net?
Occasionally. Not a super active member. I meant specifically through youtube comments you'd be the second I've met. :)
Oh, I completely understood what you meant.
Great tips, Tim! Another mistake I made early on as a hammock camper was not bringing a ground sheet to stand on under my hammock (even a small one), and finding it difficult to get in and out of my hammock cleanly without bringing debris in with me or getting my feet/socks wet/muddy/dirty.
that's a good one!
I just bought my first hammock and a 16' Kelty Noah tarp. I'm going to use them for motorcycle camping in Alaska where I live. Your advice is priceless to me. I never knew you were supposed to sleep diagonally in the hammock. I went outside and strung it up right away to try it. What a difference! Kind thanks. Instant LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! Greetings from Alaska.
Hammock expert.. I never thought they existed lol 😂 Thanks.. I love hammocks.. I’m from El Salvador and we love them
Great job Tim. Very well thought out hammock how-to.
I met a guy on the AT trying to hang with his hammock tight as he could get it and complained about how uncomfortable it was. I gave him a few tips, especially the 30 degree hang tip, but he just looked at me like weird. Something tells me he was too stubborn to try it.
Good tip on the drip line Tim. I see people use a break (ring or something) then a carabiners but not a drip line. Take care over there. Mark
A ring or break will work for most.
Great video. The thing i love most about it is that you get straight to the point and the point of the video. Can't say how refreshing that is.
thanks. Took me a while to get to where I didn't ramble. :)
Nice, clear tips! I’ll make sure to send lots of my friends I’m trying to convert your way! I start feeling obnoxious after about 10 minutes of yammering on while we’re camping. My goal is to let people borrow a hammock, experience the quality night’s sleep in it, and then I like to send them off on their own to get the deep-dive info so that I’m not sucking the fun out by badgering them with “helpful/friendly” suggestions lol.
Great tips! Planning my first hammock trip for next week. Very helpful. Thank you!
Great tips Tim. I have used a drip line in some heavy rain and it worked really well. When I first started out I had a grand trunk skeeter beater hammock and it did come with those cheap ropes. They do beat up the trees but they are also more work to set up. A good set of straps are better for the trees, faster to set up and are just plain easy. Happy fathers day my friend
For anybody Hammock camping in the Alpine, I've been using the klymit Hammock V pad for a few weeks now and it keeps me toasty and comfortable through the whole night
Thanks Officer Ramathorn!
Lol. I didn't think of that. Good information in his video though. And quick.
D C Team ram rod!
Dude YES. This was in the back of my mind the whole video but it didn’t fully click till I read your comment lol.
First thing i thought of when i started watching 😂😂😂😂
Great to hear advise from people who actually been using the stuff they are talking about.
Good vid, good tips especially for the newbies. Here's what I have learned from years of experience: Location is everything. Pick a good spot. Learn how to pitch a tarp. A Frames are go to but do have a few drawbacks. Folks tend to pitch them to high. Don't do that. Stake the trailing edge down close to the ground. That's your weather block. The other end can be tied off vertical for shade and or trap the heat from a campfire. And if needed pulled down wrapped around. Now as far as sleeping in a hammock... found the fetal position works best. I toss and turn but in the end found out curling right up in the middle settles me.
I love that you include taking care of the trees.
Nice Tim thanks. Really enjoying your series One tip for 30 degree hang angle is to use thumb and forefinger pistol style holding forefinger horizontal. You’re using thumb and little finger in a few videos now which could confuse some people. Thanks.
I tried my hammock for the first time last night and....I can agree I had to get a small but light blanket to cover under me because it was really cool! The other issue I had was the line was too long I had to re adjust the hammock and it helped with laying better. My knees weren’t hurting like the few minutes before, and the tension was still fairly loose but I had a better more comfortable experience star gazing! Thanks for the helpful tips!!!
Great video, to the point and good for beginners (like myself)
I was glad to hear you say that straight lay doesn’t work for you, I can lay straight or diagonal and be sound as a pound. It’s all in the setup. If you know how to adjust your hammock right you can be comfortable either way. I can for sure.
Great tips and love the point about tree straps, good on ya brother!
Be well Tim
Craig
On the subject of the diagonal making for a flatter lay... I don’t really pack in to wilderness when I camp with my hammock so bringing a comforter, bedsheet, pillow and body pillow along. I put the comforter and sheet over the hammock, push it in a bit, put the pillow and body pillow in and lye down. Then I flip the extra comforter in to create a sort of cocoon for myself. The reason I mentioned the diagonal is for those who don’t sleep well lying on their back. That setup lets me lye on my side or really in any position as long as I have the right sag and the right diagonal. I’ve never gotten too cold that way either.
Great video, 2 points I've seen. Never hang higher than your willing to fall, and remove stones and debris below. Someone else may mention in other comments. Again great info.
Been hammock camping for a year now and I didn't think to check ridgeline tension after gear had been added! Super minor, had many comfortable nights without noticing it but with water, battery, lantern, headlamp, top quilt and underquilt, it's about 5-7 pounds added to it. Not a bad idea to start doing the check after I load the gear in!
Can you look off camera just to the left and say in a low gravelly voice "mother of God"? Can you do me that kindness? If you have a state troopers hat and a pair of aviators put those on.
😂 perfect!
Chugging maple preferred
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Good info. I'm getting back on the A.T. in a few months and thought to leave the (3.2 lb) tent at home this trip. Now looking forward to hammock shopping and giving it a go. Happy trails, folks.
Eric B. in Charleston, SC
Great tips Tim! Had my first time overnight in a full hammock setup on my last trip. It was a success!
Nice!! great night's sleep makes hiking the next day soooo much easier.
Great idea for a quick, concise video. Thanks Tim, well done.
Thanks man good advice my first 50 mile thru hike 27 Sept and first hammock tarp shelter too. I will put this advice to use .
Great stuff! I'd add to the end tip, make sure you are laying, not just sitting when you check the ridgeline. Mule tape+becket hitch=drip line win, it's one of my favorite parts of using that type of suspension. Keep em coming man!
Great advice Tim !
Drip line's are a must even tents. I have not done a Lot of hammock camping.
But now I know /
Not Banana and not
Flat !
Thanks !
PREPFORIT how would you use a drip line on a tent?
Other things:
Mosquito net. Either a hammock with a built in net or one that can go around the entire hammock. Even in cold weather bugs can be a real pain. And it will also keep vermin out. Believe it or not, it also keeps you a little warmer.
Tarp cover. Especially in wet or snowy weather. A tarp that is at least 6" longer each end than the hammock. I use a DD 3m x 3m tarp, which can be used as a tent if you encounter no trees for your hammock.
I use both a self-inflating mat and a down underquilt in cold weather. The mat helps to make the hammock flatter, and gives even more insulation underneath. Also it can serve as a mattress if you encounter no trees for hanging the hammock.
Ground sheet. Important to make your entry and exit dryer in wet or dewy weather.
You use the dd self inflating mat?
@@mathewlewis6799 No I use a Thermorest.
I used to use a hammock to sleep when I was homeless. I would cross my legs, like I was sitting cross legged. that really helps with the discomfort in the back of the knees. I also have used a blanket under me in good weather and a sleeping bag under in bad temperatures. I always carried a small blanket for under a a thicker one for over.
Just did some hammock camping in the Sierras, let’s just say it dipped into the 30’s and my reflectics we’re sliding everywhere! Cold butt? Yessir, I may need some Velcro
Great advice Tim. I'm a ground sleeper but I've seen them all. I think you might want to warn people about wearing shoes or having sharp objects in their pockets while using a hammock. I've seen someone fall out the bottom of his hammock when something sharp just bursted it open under him. Hahaha, it was hilarious for us, not for him.
I smell an "Another 5 Mistakes" video brewing.
Great job, keep them coming!
Excellent point!
Would prob add to setup the hammock at home before going camping. Around here (NO, La), mosquitoes attacking thru the hammock are a major reason for a barrier. Foam does fine.
About the tree straps, i just bought a long piece of strap from the hardware store, costs next to nothing, and used it. Works perfectly, the weight is not significant, and it really is all you need.
Great video there I enjoyed it even though I have been using hammocks for years. I have a good tip for people wanting a flat lay, get the Amok Draumr 3.0 I have one and it’s the best
Great tips. I have been considering a hammock for some time. I guess it’s time to make it happen.
No banana hammock while camping. Got it. Wait....
😅
got eem
But only on the summer solstice, right? (Or whenever no one's looking.)
Great tips! I admit I was recently a got-to-get-it-as-tight-possible guy... So you were laughing at me...lol . Another good idea is to check above for dead limbs. Also using a tarp keeps the tree detritus off you during the night... Trees in eastern hardwood forests drop stuff which can be distracting while trying to sleep.
:) If you check out the video in the cards I think my buddy Dan sets up his hammock like that as a joke.
I went hammocking for 6 weeks uninformed and didn't sleep for the entire time as I was so cold! Also (even with driplines) I got soaked when it rained, I had the ropes for a DD hammock and the water went inside the rope!
You have your hammock set up very "loose", so it bends like a banana. If you straighten it up a bit more, it becomes a lot more comfortable to sleep parallell with the hammock. If i had a small lightweight top and underquilt, i would probably use this and sleep diagonally - but as i dont yet have this, i will just use my regular sleeping bags, and sleep parallell. I take the cord to the hammock through the bottom of the sleeping bag (usually there is a zipper there so you can open it in the bottom, or a small opening where the zipper ends), and have the sleeping bag around the hammock (so it does not get compressed when you lay on it)... This makes it very easy to get in/out of the sleeping bag, as i can just pull it over/off me after i lay down in the hammock... Probably not the best solution - but for a person who already own 5 sleeping bags, it is definitely the cheapest; and it should save some space and weight in the backpack...
Need to comment on your ridgeline suggestion. Some of use use hammocks that don't have a built in one.(ENOsingle) If you're making one out of paracord, learn to tie a Truckers Hitch for the ends of the trees, a Prusik knot for attaching the tarp to the ridgeline, and make that puppy as tight as you can get it. I spent more money on my tarp then I did my hammock, the bigger the better...effectively increasing your living space.....
All good points. Not a tutorial, but that's not what you were going for. Good tips.
I'm new to hammock camping, so thanks for sharing the info.
I know this a slightly older vid, so I hope you resolved the volume on following posts. This one is very quiet.
Time Great video. Only point I don't agree on is if you have a ridgline on your hammock the 30 deg does not really make a difference. The ridgleine holds the hammock hang/slack at that 30 deg even if you have your straps too low putting a lot of tension on your ridgeline. The ridgline distance if fixed regardless. I guess if you have a lightweight ridgeline and it stretches the angle would change. Might be putting more wear and tear on your ridgeline overtime I guess could be a downside, but the hang angle does not change. Well, one note the 30 deg does count if you put too much dip and the ridgeline is just hanging not taunt. But you can have that ridgeline as tight as a guitar string and you will still have the same hang/slack in the hammock. The ridgeline is keeping that measurement from head to toe of the hammock the same regardless.
Made me go back and look at what I said. :) You're right about the hang angle being the same every time. For me it also doesn't feel as comfortable if I don't at least attempt to get 30ish.
Good tips, as usual Tim, but you forgot one...... DTS..... yep...."Droopy Tree Syndrome". When you forget you weigh as much as you do and attempt to hang on a smaller than adequate tree...... the buttocks go straight to the ground... ha ha ha! Admit it......... you've done it at least once!!!! 😉
Carolina Chris Outdoors Adam did that at U2BEREE!!! Lol
lol, thankfully I haven't done that. I removed that other comment that person made btw. :/
Great info! Thanks for sharing your knowledge to us beginners!
Awesome tips, Thank you! I have a Hennessy Expedition hammock with the Hexagon Fly. The one tip I didn't know about was testing the ridge-line tension.
SUBBED YOU for it!
Wish I watched this first, I smashed my back up lying in it wrongly lol fell asleep on the wrong angle, I did not have a pad in it, just a Gortex sleeping bag cover so I woke up freezing on my back and but, took 6 weeks to get better ha . you got to love RUclips and Videos like this, problem sorted now
Man If i keep watching all these videos I’m going to have a room full of lost hobbies lol. My kayak is setting in my living room slash hobby room
lol I need to give some gear away I think.
Tim Watson oh yeah? Lol Been a while Tim. Hope all is well!
Put your kayak in the hammock to get it off the floor.
Thanks for the tips!! We recently purchased hammocks....well Craig already had one and I just purchased the Darien. We haven't had a chance to try them out yet, but we are excited to give them a try!! Thanks again for sharing!!
Ooooh, excited to see what you think about the Darien
I will definitely let you know. I may be reaching out for advice as well. We have never hammock camped before. I hear that I should be prepared to not like my first night in the hammock....We shall find out....hopefully soon. Thanks again!!
Great items to cover. The ridge line tension was a mistake I made early on.
Good video, These are good rules to follow. I’ve slept in my double nest hammock (approximately 12 feet long) down to 28 degrees Fahrenheit, winds about 20 mph and a light rain (yes the weather wasn’t quite what was forecast) using only a closed cell foam mat (Therma-rest Ridgerest), a space blanket and patrol bag (rated down to 30 degrees Fahrenheit) with the Bivouac bag. I won’t say I was toasty when I woke up but I was warm enough to sleep the whole night and wake up surprised the forecast had been wrong (lows to 35 degrees, no wind and no rain). I think the drip lines might’ve saved me some discomfort and even filled a pot underneath them lol.
Haha! that sounds like a fun night.
4:17 YUP Testing out my hammock before we actually go camping right now, i was having a hard time with the sleeping pad fitting in the hammock, ended up flipping the whole hammock over and I broke the mosquito net with my fat arse!! 😭 now I gotta buy a new hammock
Thanks Tim, helpful stuff!
I find that new comers to hammocking tend to leave things behind or forget steps so teach them a slogan. Remember your *S.H.I.T.* or ( *T.H.I.S* if you have kids). This stands for *S* uspension - *H* ammock - *I* nsulation - and *T* arp. Good way to remember things especially when hammock gear is modular.
Oh yeah we love a “flat lay” Tim. 😺
I love these tips they are very important things that people do not think of for sure. Tree straps was what I thought about first.
I have to do the flat hammock because when I get in it sags.... believe me! Lol
ha!
This weekend was my first time hammock camping. The hammock I bought off Amazon didn’t come with ANY set-up instructions, so the night before we left, I decided to watch some videos. I had never heard of a bottom liner. You guys weren’t kidding about losing heat out the bottom of the hammock!
It got down to 50 degrees the first night and I froze my butt off! I had stopped and bought a cheap $5 blanket on the way with the intention of placing it in the bottom of my hammock to act as a barrier. It really wasn’t big enough to give me protection from head to toe. So, the next day I went to Walmart and bought a twin size fleece blanket. It made SO much difference!
I’m still learning how I want to set up my hammock and what works, but the videos definitely helped.
Funny thing is, my Scoutmaster wanted me to have it rigid. And it makes sense as to why. Part of it is preference & skill. I am very good at balancing. Haven’t had an issue with taught, and it doesn’t weaken mine because I don’t put it that tight.
Also, wouldn’t it be weakened anyway from the suggested way of sleeping? Since you’d be laying on the taught part anyways to a good amount?
One tip I have, is buying a hammock with a mosquito net that can flip under. I use one and just throw a blanket in the net for cold weather, works great and is much cheaper than any underquilt.
A 'consistent hang' for the Spijkerpoes is about every weekend!
This was very helpful thank you mr timwat singh
Great tips. I remember the first time I forgot to make a drip line.
Did you ever forgot again? :D
Tim Watson
I sure did not.
I liked your performance in super troopers!!!!
Thanks for the tips, take care.
Second trip I went hammock camping temps hit below 30°F, I didn't have an under cover and it was miserable. I bought a 30° sleeping bag to use in it and still felt the body heat wicking away. So your under cover tip should be at the top.
Have you looked at the Outdoor Vitals Aerie 20 deg & 30 deg and the Roost 40 deg bags. They have the ability to be used as a rectangular sleeping bag, a hammock under quilt, and as a hammock "pod" system. I'd appreciate your thoughts on them.
Karst Outdoors I have the OV Aerie 20 degree bag and I have used it as an under quilt and a pod. Both ways work fantastic. Just my 2 cents worth !
I haven't looked at those systems. Being a tall guy I'm not sure how the pod system would work.
I crafted my own hammock net from builders thread and with genuine fishernet nodes.
Thanks brother I will have to remember these when I start hammock camping
Tim, if your ridgeline is too tight, what is the correction that I need to make? Thanks!
Awesome video Tim, all things I've been learning while hammock camping. You were right, so much better than ground sleeping... when trees are available. Nice shirt buddy ;)
Thanks Kevin!
Love that shirt. My second favorite Star Wars movie. Great tips on Hammock camping. Enjoyed it. 😃😃👍👍
Great tips man! I just started hammock camping so this video was helpful 👍
Great vid as always Tim. Keep em coming
hey😊 i have a dd hammock i use to tighten it up between the trees. I get the angle I need no matter if the hammock hangs horizontally. so i do not understand why one must have swag? I have seen many people tighten it up horizontally and it seems that you lay better then the big swag..i dont know😊
Do you need a bottom insulator even if you're using a sleeping bag or just when using blankets?
Yup you need it for both.
Missed opportunity to explain why. Sleeping bags require loft to trap (dead) air in the insulation, synthetic or down, to be effective. The underside of a sleeping bag gets compressed and (typically) offers very little insulation. This is also why hard core hikers often get quilts instead of carrying the weight of the useless underlayer of a bag. In any case, an under quilt doesn't get compressed. Also, rigid, inflatable and self-inflating under layers do not get significantly compressed either. Hope that helps.
great tips Tim
I have slept in - 7c without an under quilt just use a 4 seasons sleeping bag I find it's perfectly warm
Killer shirt man!
I broke your rules lol. I strap my hammock around thick trees and tie it on the backside of the tree allowing separation of the straps. Then I flatten the hammock tight with no bend. The result is a cot type structure.
Some very good tips indeed Tim. Thanks for sharing brother.
Great tips Tim!
4:35 Are you saying I should be tying one strap higher up the tree than the other strap, to create that 30-degree angle?
Loved you in supertroopers!
Hi tim! Is a sleeping bag enough to not use an underquilt?
Sweet rain fly! Where'd you score that?
Regarding the tension of the quilt. I find myself sagging, and my bottom almost touching the ground if I don't have the hammock tight. However I do feel like I could flip out. Any suggestions on how to get looser tension without dragging on the ground
My tree straps are about 5' off the ground
Move the tree straps higher on the tree, that will put you higher off the ground
Great info Tim! Thanks for sharing my friend!
Great video, subscribed!
Five tips I've never heard!!!! Thanks sooooo much for sharing. I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to seeing all your videos!!! Blessings 😇 🇺🇸
Thanks and welcome!
Great tips, thanks Tim
I ghetto rigged a military poncho liner as an underquilt last time I went out, I brought an extra blanket but I ended up not needing it cause the poncho liner kept me warm enough.
Good points. Thanks dude!
Sorry for the stupid question Tim, but I have the Thermarest Slacker Hammock House hammock system and it has a ridge line for the rainfly but the ridge line has nothing to do with the hammock hang system. Why does it need slack?
And another stupid question, but how can I tell if it’s got the 30* hang angle? I’ve only used it once so far because my accounting degree, work, and family keep me too busy to get out camping, but that one time was a rough night of sleep! I’m a side/belly sleeper and it took forever to fall asleep even with how tired I was. Suggestions?
I think Dutchware sells a gadget that hangs on your ridgeline to help find the correct angle.
Kristen PlaysOutside thank you!!