@@marcusgault9909 I think it's a bit more than that, a game of words. He's not able to pick 'a particular' runway - a single one, cause he may go across, or not make it to 'any' runway.
Descending 1800 ft / min is 30 feet per second. I was going to be a pilot. Loved the lack of ego I sensed among pilots. Turned out I'm red-green colorblind to some degree, no go. Wound up in software. He speaks truth. The dominant voices were crushing on many teams over the years. Watch out for the ones who seem to always have instantaneous answers, they do not think deeply, it's all a bluff for personal glory.
Al is one of my all time hero pilots. If he doesn't get control of that rolling plane in the beginning there is no story to tell and the rest of the potential heroics from pilots, crew, and passengers never get told. My favorite of his to the Sioux City controller: "you want me to put it on a runway"? He has the calm composure to joke in a circumstance where there is no reason to expect that he is alive five minutes from now. RIP.
@@bridgefin The point of this talk is that the pilot is NOT the hero,and he doesn't claim to be, either. The whole crew is the hero. Cpt Haynes was "just" one of this crew, bless his soul.
@@thany3 Wrong. Early on, Haynes applies asymmetric thrust to prevent the plane from a right turn which can't be stopped with stick and which will cause a rollover and dive into the ground. That allowed the subsequent cooperation of the crew to figure out how to get some control and attempt a landing. The latter part is the subject of the talk. There is no crew cooperation without Haynes saving all on board first.
I have a friend who is a commercial pilot, and his one outstanding characteristic is that he is unflappable under pressure. Capt. Haynes, as well as Capt. Sully, are of this same mold. You want people in the cockpit who calmly work through a problem, not ones who will go looking for a parachute!
Passenger: "I need a whiskey." Barman: "Heavy day huh?" Passenger: "Yeah... Yeah, i'd think so..." Barman: "Any particular reason?" Passenger: **points at plane crash on television.** "Yeah, i just landed."
Barman: 'Looks at the plane crash, then looks at the survivor, then looks back again...' Barman: 'instantly refills the survivor's glass then pours another glass and gulps it down in one' "Do you want to call your family? Don't worry, it's on us."
15 years after that crash I was asked to edit a video by the GM at the plant that repaired the fan blades for that engine. He told me he'd never forget the day that he got the call from NTSB telling him to gather up all of the records for the engine repairs and be in Chicago the next day along with the Quality Manager. I still work at the plant here in 2020 and many of the folks who worked to repair commercial engine fan blades are retired but many more are my friends who work there. I know bringing up United 232 is taboo. The repair service was cleared of any wrong doing but my friends still wish they had a crystal ball to find the tiny crack that lead to the failure. Capt. Al Haynes who passed almost a year ago along with the 3 other crew members were heroes that day. I take my job very serious, even though I'm not a tech or quality control, maintaining the computers and integrity of the data used to repair planes is my job. Watching this video is a reminder to try making everyone there be a team player to repair those magnificent flying machines.
Do you have any friends that fly small planes that may take me up I’d love to try to get my ppl? I know it’s a long shot but ay anyways thank you for your time
So many accidents are caused by cutting corners in maintenance, and some countries dole out prison terms to maintenance crew. But retelling the story to yourself in different ways where you have, say, a hunch just in time - that’s how grief works. It’s hard work, but it trims your emotional craft and keeps you aware of how important your work is.
I remember having a conversation with my father about this crash. At the time he was an airline pilot with 30,000+ hours. He was known for successfully pulling off maneuvers that simulator check pilots and FAA checkride pilots had never seen performed before successfully. But when I asked him about this particular crash, he just said, "I couldn't do that." UAL 232 was a truly amazing feat.
All the DC-10s were subsequently retrofitted with excess flow valves in the hydraulic systems. That means that a failed hydraulic line will now be isolated automatically. Design lesson learnt.
Now imagine if the pilot was not hired and someone else was there in his place because the company had a diversity hiring policy and his sex or skin color or nationality were all filled up. Someone of his unique skills and nerves of steel may not have been in the drivers seat and as a result hundreds more die. Your comment is great and underlines the importance of competence over diversity. Took the best to pull that miracle off and yes it was lucky he was flying.
@@graceclausen6966 i see you are now suffering from cognitive dissonance Grace =) My post really struck you, that's quite the response there Grace. You might want to think about why you posted that lol. I can help you out if you would like to discuss it further, people such as you need help or you risk destabilizing societies and we will end up going through yet another type of authoritarian regime.
@@DoYouThinkForUrselF Huh, an interesting statement. But the reality was that this particular pilot (my father) was NOT hired for many years by airlines because they all had height restrictions based on what they believed pilots should LOOK like (tall, dark, handsome males that fit some movie-pilot ideal). My dad, being quite short, was not considered for airline jobs for many years due to characteristics that were in no way relevant to his flying abilities. It was only after the NOW movement in the early 80s and the push made by female pilots trying to enter the industry that irrelevant height restrictions were finally dropped by the airlines, thus allowing my dad to put his unique skills and competence to use for the benefit of the hundreds of thousands of passengers he flew all over the country before retiring.
I had the privilege of seeing Captain Haynes speak on this a few years later at an FAA safety seminar. To hear him tell this story (and know the entire flight crew lived through it) was chilling and amazing.
an ex-military pilot, i have tremendous empathy for airmen struggling to control disabled aircraft. this is by far the most compelling and informative recounting of united 232 among six or so i have seen. i flew usaf c-141's which may have been the last and largest jet that could be flown in "tab operable" mode, which employed a mechanical connection between the yoke and the control surfaces in the event of complete hydraulic failure. designed to endure combat damage, it was an incredibly safe and resilient airplane.
I only recently discovered Mr. Means talks and have been binge watching them. I feel it's not hyperbole to say that anyone who wants to manage a modern team of technical developers should have to watch these lectures. I've spent nearly 20 years in software development and It has truly astounded me how ill-equipped, poorly-tempered, and non-agile the people are who ascend in to lead roles. Anyone fortunate enough to have Mr. Means as their senior or mentor is extraordinarily fortunate.
I not only work in technology, but I'm also an entrepreneur (sales and team building). He is teaching leadership ...and that goes everywhere. I will make it a point to watch any and everything he produces.
maybe you'd/ one would have a different take AFTER having worked with him for a while. it's easy to be influenced by the aura, charade we often create around ourselves or willingly/ subconsciously be antithetical to what we otherwise profess
"It was not until 35 minutes after the crash that rescuers identified the debris that was the remains of the cockpit, with the four pilots alive inside. All four recovered from their injuries and eventually returned to flight duty." Jesus Christ.
The pilots returned to flight duty for the same reasons doctors go back to their jobs even after losing patients; same reasons why athletes fight through torn hamstrings to finish the race.
Malkevin - Was a full time software engineer for 15 years before i realised i hated it as a career path... i binned working in an office for a blue chip agency and started my own little engineering firm, never been happier.
Malkevin - If i could give you any advice it would be that software development skills are probably the most transferable... Whatever career you chose to do, from accounting to zoology, you’ll find a place where your software skills can improve on things. Find a career your happy to do and go for it. The place your old skills will be needed in your new role will present itself.
I started watching this because I too thought it was about aeroplanes, but Nickolas Means' analysis of the reactions of the crew and his extrapolation to all team situations was riviting, inspirational stuff. This is about an aeroplane but it isn't about areoplanes it's about team dynamics and managemnet put over in an entertaining and dynamic way. I would say essential viewing for anyone working in or managing any sort of team. Highly recommended.
I’m a pro pilot major at a university and a PPL working on his instrument rating with hopes of doing aviation professionally. We went over this crash and a lot of what was mentioned in our Crew Resource Management Class, it was really cool that stuff as specific as “we” language was mentioned here. This stuff is highly important in the team environment of the cockpit, now more than ever since human factors are becoming the greatest issue in aviation.
Human factors, more precisely our lack of understanding thereof and declining ability to interface with, are the leading cause of safety issues in most industries, but are indeed one of, if not *the* most important problems aviation has to deal with.
Nice to know I’m not the only one who can pretty much recite these from memory. The process and the dynamics of these events is fascinating. Souix City was horrendous but a superb feat of airmanship.
A couple years after the crash - once he was able to get his hands on a copy - a friend of mine sent me a copy of the NTSB report on the crash. The thing that stuck with me the most was how all the simulator pilots failed to survive where the real-world pilots had and I realized the difference was airmanship - you can't have it in a simulator because the simulator can't tell you where and how it's wounded through touch, only through gauges. If you don't treat a machine like a living thing, it won't treat you like one.
This is partly why the military does daily exercises on things that seem impossible. I myself have performed over 100 steering gear breakdowns in the navy just in case 3 independent hydraulic pumps fail. Also you train to be able to analyze information from dials to identify and mitigate calamities. You need to know your installation well to do this. Lovely presentation by the way, it felt like a puzzle story but I figured it was the butler.
I haven't had a drink in going on 5 years, now. I can tell you now, if I'd been there and lived through that crash/landing, I'd have been taking turns buying drinks with that other guy, and hell, I'd have carried his suitcase for him. Outstanding presentation by Nikokolas Means. He really made all the salient points perfectly clear in a very entertaining and informative manner. I'll bet we've all worked in an environment like the previously mentioned Flight 173 where the Captain kept working the nose gear indicator problem despite the First Officer and Flight Engineer telling him they were running out of fuel. It takes a strong person to lead any crew, but an even stronger one to know when to listen to them. Great video!
Talk about balls of steel! The whole flight crew is a portrait in bravery. If you know you're boned don't give up until you're face first in the ground. This could have had a lot worse loss of life. That's not going to bring the dead back but at the same time there are people who went home who wouldn't have if not for a bunch of people who kept their cool.
The story of United Airlines Flight 232 was neat, the rest is just your usual narcissistic managerial circle jerk. These conferences are pure vanity projects for the insecure managerial class. No wisdom is ever imparted, this one was based on a decent anecdote though...
Please explain why the last few minutes of it - where he is praising the dogma of diversity (which translates to "don't hire the best person for the job, hire some minority we're missing so we look good in statistics") - is the best part? Because this is what diversity means in practice.
@@dave5194 You say that... and perhaps you're right... ...but terms like "Diversity", especially when used in conjunction with "Marginalized voices" is a de-facto litmus test to spotting intersectional zealot.
@Standard Crow Oh, that one is easy: Step 1: Listen to the WHO and the CDC Step 2: Don't listen to the real experts Step 3: Panic Step 4: Shut the economy down Step 5: Establish a "new normal" so that it won't recover Step 6: Negative Profit
@@renerpho Actually, machines have been operating vehicles better than humans pretty much since their development. In World War 2, the origin of cybernetics research came with a rapid breakthrough leading to anti-air cannons becoming automated so that they could shoot down pilots who were using advanced evasive maneuvers. The response, then, was to automate the evasive maneuvers as well. Human pilots and gunners were rapidly outclassed for this particular task. In the Apollo program, they had to automate nearly all of the flight controls because humans (even career pilots) couldn't be trusted to fly a spacecraft as safely as a cybernetics array could. Factories have been increasing the amount of automation in part to increase safety, and they have been hugely successful. Flawed humans believed, irrationally and contrary to the evidence, that computer drivers were inferior to humans and unsafe to have on the roads--however barely as soon as any company was allowed to produce automated cars, they beat human safety ratings within months of development. No, if that plane had been flown by a computer, it wouldn't have had any trouble. The fact that a human believed the plane couldn't make it despite it clearly having more aerodynamic momentum than it needed, demonstrates the flaws of the humans trying to fly the machinery.
@@TheReaverOfDarkness No actively serving military aircraft performs evasive maneuvers automatically, the closest any WW2 plane would have got was the stuka's automatic dive brakes linked to the bomb release. You might be thinking of the fly-by-wire used to keep the plane flying straight and under control, but all the input and decision making is still done by the pilot, even in something as advanced as the F-35. And on the note of controlling damaged aircraft, no autopilot system that exists in this world would know how to deal with complete loss of all control surfaces, it would have simply rolled to the right and dived into a fiery death for all onboard. As for the moon landing, that was a maneuver performed without an atmosphere, while under lunar gravity, in a basically sterile environment where precision was called for. In this case, yes, it was essentially a machine that controlled the descent. However, issues and malfunctions that occurred before that stage, and they did occur, all had to be rectified by the astronauts manually. Early technology was terribly bad at coping with situations it was not designed for, skilled and well trained operators were, and still are, an essential part of any flight. You'll notice that they turned the autopilot off as the first step in response to emergency, this is because the autopilot does not know how to do anything other than make gentle turns and fly straight and level at a set altitude. It does not know how to avoid terrain, or even land the plane, let alone control it in a near impossible situation. Technology progresses fast for our generation, and it certainly is a crucial part of making our lives safer and more efficient. However, despite modern planes effectively being able to fly themselves, we should not forget that machines will only know how to do what they were designed to do. Maybe one day, we'll have an AI that can control a plane in every conceivable emergency scenario, but until then, those thousands of hours of flying will be the only thing between you and the ground, six feet under, when the chips are down.
Truly amazing bit of flying by Capt. Haynes. I've been flying for more than 30 years and cannot remember even HEARING about any situation like this. Capt. Haynes is one in a hundred thousand. My hat is off to you, Al.
@@AFuller2020 Capt. Al Haynes was the Captain and as such, it was he that implemented CRM in the cockpit of that airplane. It was BEFORE Denny Fitch, who was a passenger at the beginning of the flight, a DC10 pilot AND a DC10 CHECK PILOT for United AL, volunteered to assist and handle the throttles for the duration of the flight. Al Haynes was flying the plane and deserves credit for saving g lives ... as much or perhaps more than the "technician" you referred to. Fitch was not a "technician". You want to piss him off, call him a tech.
Best team speech I have ever heard. I had a short time in software development, with two of us quite young, and two others a bit older, however this was the exactly the approach that was taken.... And we all learned together, ie, the younger of us learned from the more experienced, but also the older picked up some new tricks that us younger ones found.... Found by mistakes.
I've watched a few different recountings of Flight 232, and the worst part is the flight attendant remembering how she did what she was trained to do and told parents to put their children on the floors. That ended poorly for many.... She felt awful, but it wasn't really her fault. She did everything she could. It's amazing they were even able to get down without completely losing control.
When you have a problem and it needs solving, allow ideas from anyone, no matter how stupid. It just might lead to the solution. Simple example, i was over hearing developers in another dept. discussing washed out pictures taken from a camera. I poked my nose in. They were discussing a software solution. I said, i know what is causing that and the solution. The glass plate in front of the camera needs angling, like airport control tower windows. The flash gun was reflecting light of the camera lense and it was being reflected into the camera. So i designed a simple sloping glass plate and it solved the problem.
Just over 30 years ago I remember watching this footage on the headline news. I was amazed that *anyone* managed to survive that crash, much less the number of people who walked away with few or no injuries. This landing truly was a great example of excellent leadership.
On a positive note GE were so determined to find the missing pieces of the engine they put a cash bounty out the public to find it sure enough they did
It still wasn't the reward that found it though. It was just some farmer harvesting his field and ran over it by chance. And yes, he was able to collect the reward.
@@Thumbsupurbum GE were able to conduct a forensic examination and fond that it was a manufacturing defect during the casting process at the time it wasn't understood then. Now they know they had rectified the defect.
These details in analyzing every tiny bit of each and every incident/accident is what makes flying more safe than ever. You can't predict all possible scenarios on such a complex system as an aircraft flying, but you have to do whatever possible to avoid the same issue to happen again. Sadly that's the point where the 737Max story failed - by running into the same accident twice despite the known issue and several months time in between.
@@magicalsnek the problem with 737MAX is that Boeing knew that by repositioning the engine pylons to allow fitment of bigger engines changed the aerodynamic characteristics and the addition of the MCAS System would allow for AOA instability. Boeing instead chose to cut corners on the engineering aspects of the 737 and management chose to overrule engineers decisions despite the concerns raised by them. Boeing has had a proud history of setting engineering standards of aircraft manufacturing and because of greed has exposed Boeing into a compromising situation that it shouldn't of been in the first place. They played a very dangerous game and will have huge implications as to it's future survival.
@Captain Caveman i worked at the nsa and i was not a douchebag, also the the FBI is the agency that would be concerned of US persons watching this video
"Yeah I'll be having Whiskey" * Bartender pours glass * "Nice of you to save a glass for someone else." * Bartender suspiciously hands man the bottle *
This was a very, very difficult video to watch because my fiancé of 5 days and her grandmother were killed in the crash of American Airlines flight 191 at O’Hare Airport on 5/25/1979, another DC 10 crash. I watched this because I wanted something hopeful to think about and fortunately the fact that some survived was right up front in the video. It was worth watching. Thanks for this. Great team leadership lesson. Been torn up and haunted for 41 years because we were only 19 at the time. Sincere thanks.
This is superb--it's the best presentation of this incident I've seen from anyone. I had the honor and pleasure of seeing Captain Haynes in Charleston.
Nobody going to comment on how skillful of a public speaker he is? Not a single um or uh, no annoying quirks. Just smooth, articulate and interesting. Good job on the presentation.
That aircraft crash landed with a flightdeck teeming with good men. We should all be so lucky to find ourselves on an aircraft flown by highly competent, good men and women every time we step in a fuselage.
BW Acuff agreed. In fact, I’ve heard the use the cockpit recording of that flight to teach how ideal cockpit communication should happen in a crisis. It was key to their success.
"Haha! You wanna be specific and make it a runway, huh?" Is possibly my favourite cockpit to ATC comment of all time. After everything this crew has been through, knowing the terrifyingly low odds of this situation, he still had time to crack a little joke.
I worked on an IT team with a sociopath. Despite everyone's urging, management promoted him to our supervisor, because he *always* made himself out to be the hero. Within a year one guy was dead from a heart attack and everyone else had moved on.
This is one of the big smells you can notice when you're talking to a team that's adopting agile practices. Ask them to tell their story of the toughest challenge they've worked on so far. If the story turns into "bull of the woods developer over there saved us all" you know you've got an immature team that won't have trust, that there'll be some clown who thinks he knows a *lot* more than he does, and management will be disconnected and most likely content with "feeding the biggest lion and letting him dole out the scraps." I consult for a living, and I **HATE** going into that kind of a team. If I were closer to independently wealthy, it would be enough of a pain that I'd just refuse to go to shops that operate that way. Hero culture is basically synonymous with shitty leadership.
@@Calphool222 You just hit on your key to becoming independently wealthy. Don't work for those kinds of teams, manage your lifestyle to afford to live until you make more. You are costing your contributional life by working in areas that drain your energy. If you are consulting you have the choice, but money management and allocation will be necessary initially.
This is truly one of the greatest stories I've ever heard. The storytelling and the motives he gains from it are by far the greatest I've ever heard. Amazing.
I’ve watched about 200 of these, and there are a lot of mind blowing surprises. All time favorite: The long, British telling of the world’s most mysterious flight: British Air Flight 8 out of Singapore, covered in blue St. Elmo’s fire, falling to earth like an Angel. It changed aviation forever.
Very good talk! Thank you. I'm a lead developer too and I try to stay above the minutiae of the decisions that devs below me take as much as I can but it's good to be reminded that sometimes it can be what makes or breaks a project.
From Wikipedia - "He was referred to as a hero, but refused to say he was one. He gave all the credit to the flight attendants, who he believed did not receive enough credit for the work they did." - That's how you know he's a legend.
I opened this video to see what I could learn in ten minutes before I made dinner, and almost 40 minutes later I checked to see how close I was to ten minutes. Then I learned that this talk was given in order to communicate the power of diverse voices in teams at a software development conference. I love learning new things every day.
They needed to because the damn thing crashed all the time. The L1011 on the other hand was a much better competing design. I'm not disagreeing with you it's just I wish the L1011 had been the sales leader. But the delay of the Rolls Royce engine and their bankruptcy doomed the project to low sales as it was much later to market than the DC10.
The shame was that Douglas didn't provide the hydraulic systems with Hydraulic fuses as Lockheed did on the (more expensive) Tristar. Hydraulic fuses shut off sections of the hydraulic system if they sense fluid loss. Also the L1011 had four hydraulic systems with one always differently routed.
My instructor had me control a Cessna 150 with just the throttle and doors, pushing them open to turn, I set up to land that way, then landed the conventional way.
@@CynicalOldDwarf probably. Pitch can be controlled partially with throttle. Airspeed up? Pitch up. Roll? The dihedral of a Cessna has a similar effect to the sweep of airliner wings. They have a centering tendency.
No idea why this showed up in my recommendations but my God this was amazing. I was literally engaged the entire time and almost shed a tear at the end.
I remember this event I was working midnights and saw a lot of this of TV. It was an incredible thing to witness and the crew deserve every bit of praise they get. You can bet changes were made to the routing of the hydraulic lines after this.
This is an awesome presentation. I knew a lot of this story already because I’m also obsessed with studying airline crashes. But I learned even more after this. He’s a great speaker and is very knowledgeable about this crash.
I went to Aircraft Battle Damage Repair class with some highly experienced Sioux City Air National Guard aircraft maintainers who helped rescue the survivors. Their descriptions were harrowing but all were amazed the crash landing worked as well as it did.
i didn't see anyone mention it, but this speaker did a phenomenal job with this talk. the pacing and focus of his storytelling, as well as the balance between the narrative and explanatory background information, was perfect. good shit dude!
except that neither the White Star Line nor her builders called Titanic unsinkable, and a lot of modern ships would have had worse odds against the same collision. I hate when people spread misinformation about the Titanic
@@qualifiedawesomeness9968 I was paraphrasing for comedic effect, but the actual quotes are pretty much the same: "There is no danger that Titanic will sink. The boat is unsinkable and nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the passengers." Phillip Franklin, White Star Line vice-president, 1912. Also: The February 1993 issue of The Titanic Commutator unearthed a White Star promotional flyer for the Olympic and Titanic that claimed “as far as it is possible to do, these two wonderful vessels are designed to be unsinkable.” www.bbc.com/future/article/20120402-the-myth-of-the-unsinkable-ship www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinking-the-unsinkable/
@@qualifiedawesomeness9968 You obviously can't speak for all of White Star Line employees and the most likely PR work to divert blame afterwards. It is a known quote: “We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe that the boat is unsinkable.” - Philip Franklin, Vice-President of White Star Line, owners of Titanic. So there is a chance you are the one spreading misinformation.
@@Darrylx444 I couldn't find a single primary source for these quotes, and as far as I could find, it was never stated without qualifiers like "almost" or "practically" until *after* the ship sank. Richard Howells The Myth of the Titanic, ISBN 0-333-72597-2 Staff (19 April 1912). "Lead Article". The Engineer. "The phrase 'unsinkable ships' is certainly not one that has originated from the builders"
@@AFuller2020 I see you enjoy a full life...that's why you feel the need to attack other people for their sense of humor. Please...help us understand...what SHOULD we find funny? And since you are such a sophisticated person...tell us what you do to improve this world? Certainly you do something which keeps the world spinning...
There's also a PlayBoy at 21:33 (instead of plane) The AI making these subs must have read a lot of porn magazines. "loses lift on the wings and start to descend again. The playboy is trying to find equilibrium"
I think every school/college, place of employment etc. should play this video at an appropriate time. These lessons can be applied to every part of life. If CRM can save lives, it would definitely have positive influences elsewhere. The almost perfect job performed by the entire flight crew and passengers saved the majority of the lives on board, great job putting this video together, this will serve to save countless more lives! You should all be extremely proud of yourselves!
I've listened to this speech about three times over just as many years and it remains as riveting and engaging with a hard and clear point on team management and leadership at the end. Hes a brilliant speaker, that timing and pacing and the highly interesting allegorist content is captivating.
From what I recall (assuming I'm not under shadow-ban -- I wasn't trolling or anything)... 1. Throttles: They were unable to pull the engine throttle closed, but were able to once they hit the firewall cut-off, it disengages hydraulics and electrical power to the engine, and from what I remember reading, the throttle slid back at that point. 2. Phugoid Oscillations: Pitch can start either up or down: This aircraft sustained some damage to the horizontal stabilizer, which actually caused the trim-speed to go down from 270 to 215 knots indicated airspeed. If the plane's over the trim speed, you'll pitch up (if below, you will pitch down) until speed drops below it, and then end up descending until speed ends up going back up, and so on. The way to counter the phugoids was almost totally counter-intuitive, as the plane was pitching up, you had to pull the throttles back; as you went down you had to push them up. 3. Inability to make left turns: The aircraft didn't just have damage to the stabilizer, the ailerons were stuck upwards slightly on the right side (if I recall), which is why it would have a marked tendency to go to the right and not the left. As the plane descended, engine thrust levels went up and it became possible to force the airplane through a nice wide left turn. 4. Rate of Descent: The aircraft's descent rate ranged from 1620 to 1854 feet per minute as they were making their final approach. 5. Crash sequence: While there might have been a phugoid starting, the problem seemed to be that the right wing started to dip. While they did try and push up the number 3 engine to counter this movement, the engines take a few seconds to respond to power inputs, and there's momentum. The aircraft struck the ground with both the nose gear/right landing-gear, and the right tip. The force of the impact caused the tail to come off (not just the #2 engine, the whole tail). The stabilizer imposes a downward load on the plane (the center of lift is behind the center of gravity which produces a naturally stable aircraft), and with it gone, the plane pitched up and that popped the rear fuselage up and that set up the cartwheeling motion. BTW: I'm also a bit of a person who reads about accidents and disasters: I'm also a criminal justice major (it's kind of the same thing, you're trying to figure out what happened -- in one case, it's why a plane crashed/a reactor melted-down, and in the other why somebody did what they did, I often read about murders and serial killers, but still, the why is pretty interesting -- disturbing, sure...)
"hey hey look look at me! Everyone look at me! I know stuff too". Seriously dude. It was a talk based on a story with the intent of improving team dynamics. What you did... With that comment... Is how to be the douche in a team. You appear to have taken nothing from the talk itself beyond needing to stroke your ego by making minor inconsequential corrections to facts of the story that bear little on the actual focus of the talk. You are effectively being the "know-it-all, dominant voice" he is talking about.
@@lmaoroflcopter What's wrong with providing some technical details/corrections? It's not criticising Nickolas but simply adding these points for anyone interested. While it doesn't bring the team dynamics topic forward, it certainly is helpful to understand the accident a little better.
@@magicalsnek it's backhanded at best. It's a criticism of his talk because this person felt some minutia didn't match reality when in fact they add little to nothing of consequence to the actual lesson being taught here.
@@lmaoroflcopter You are the one being the douche. The whole teamwork thing is to let everybody have input. You're literally telling him to stop correcting the captain and follow the captain into the ground.
As my recently deceased father in law always used to say "were all in this together" may he rest in peace. The same to all who lost their lives in this crash. Kudos to Capt. Al Haynes and the rest of the flight crew and attendants, what amazing professionals!
What a great walk-through of that accident. But I think watching almost 40 minutes to know that this whole story is about a team building exercise. I still love it.
I vividly remember this like it happened yesterday. i was about 4 months old, my eyes glued to the Telly!!!! I wrote a long book explaining how i felt and my family felt that day. Took me 3 weeks to complete. 11 chapters its called (When I was 4 months old - The Plane Went Down). NYT Best seller
In every aspect of my life where there was a team involved, I've ALWAYS incorporated it as a team effort. Yes there is a leader, me, but several times I was not that leader at a particular moment and another player took the reins. Almost always said player made the right decision. I may have been 'the captain' but I played the team as if I was merely a director, not a dictator. GOLLY that still makes me feel so good. Dozen or so years later I ran across a frozen pond hockey player on my team and he reminisced some of those days. He actually thanked me for not being a controlling leader, he noticed I let others play they way they play. 🤗👍
Amazing story, and superb instinctual flying. CRM has been an issue with Asian airlines where the social culture or the crew has far more respect placed based on the hierarchy in the cockpit, and co-pilots don't want to show disrespect to the captain.
@@fdzaviation While I'm not sure if I'm under a shadowban or not, I don't think the nuclear bomb was necessary to defeat Japan. They would have probable crumbled without any need for occupation.
@@petero.7487 they would, but it would have take much longer. You only have to see the mentality on the islands. Cut off, in a hopeless position, but still fighting to the last man. I could easily see the entire homeland doing exactly the same, it would have been horrendous. Sometimes you do need to give someone a huge, over powering slap, to show them they are going to lose. Don't forget, even with the Hiroshima bomb, the Japanese reaction was "You can only do that once!".
@@fdzaviation I know you were being facetious, but there is actual genetic evidence of East Asians being much more prone to social pressures than other ethnic groups. Cultures arise from genetics, not out of thin air.
@@petero.7487 Bullshit. Do you have any idea how FEW Japanese soldiers ever surrendered? Our best estimates were we'd loose another 100,000 Americans if we hadn't ended the war when we did. We didn't start the war with Japan. Karma is a bitch.
Recently discovered Nick Means and his LeadDev talks. He's an incredibly talented and detail focused speaker, presenter and an imaginative leader. I'm a 4,000 pilot and flight instructor and senior team leader in business. His stuff is a great way to begin a management or team offsite. Keep bringing the good stuff!
One extra note that rarely gets talked about: The Sioux City emergency response team had recently run a crash simulation drill on this same runway, not just the airport. They used real people and some dummies to simulate helping crash victims. This gave me chills when I first read about it. It’s (almost) like they knew this was going to happen.
@@DrMackSplackem- "Crash Landing: The Rescue of Flight 232" (1992). The cinematographer of that project, William Wages, was one of my editorial clients and told amazing stories of how the rescuers on the ground reacted just right to save many lives after the DC-10 came to a stop.
I was a corporate jet pilot when this happened. Flight Safety International, where we trained, strongly emphasized Cockpit Resource Management in their pilot training after this accident. I expect it probably prevented a few accidents; it certainly improved cockpit communication and safety during the remainder of my career. This was a "watershed" accident that had many ramifications and subsequent changes in the aviation industry.
What an amazing crew. I'm not one to do so, but this choked me up a bit. That entire crew: flight deck, cabin, and hastily recruited captain, are absolute legends!
Whoever did the original subtitles for this took some serious liberties with it. A ton of sentences were completely rephrased and included several mistakes, making it no better than RUclips's auto captioning (actually much worse IMO). While the subtitles are locked by White October themselves, we CAN make a non-UK English "translation". I've spent some time transcribing the draft up until 7:27.8 for today. If anyone has time and genuinely wants to see this video be more accessible to people with or without hearing impairments, please give some time and transcribe a line or two. Together, we can fight back against shitty transciptions of highly valuable resources, such as "Cockpit resource management emphasizes cooperation over hookers" and "The playboy is trying to find equilibrium".
**Engine Explodes** Flight Engineer: Ahh, we lost an engine it's _finnnne_ The cartoon dog sat in the burning building comes to mind. Also, "routine engine failure". Routine. Jeez.
I'm addicted to Nick's videos. Superbly researched, and draws exactly the bigger picture of what the incidents should teach organizations or teams. Keep them coming, Nick!! Al Haynes was an amazing man who could think under pressure. It is a tribute to him that even after saving half the passengers under impossible circumstances, that he was wracked with guilt for not saving them all. He died this August - RIP Captain Haynes.
Actually well known bluegrass musician Pete Wernick was on that flight, and his story sounds like he was the guy who got his suitcase, but he actually went back to get his banjo in the case, picked it up and still plays it today.
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"You want to be particular and make it a runway huh?"
Love this guy
Can you please explain the joke?
@@Zergosss Easily understood to me, a non flyer. The Captain was merely emphasising his lack of control over where his plane was pointing.
@@marcusgault9909 I think it's a bit more than that, a game of words. He's not able to pick 'a particular' runway - a single one, cause he may go across, or not make it to 'any' runway.
@@PiotrBuczek Erm, exactly what I said Piotr.
Actually Captain Haynes had some great lines: One of which was, if he was asked what he'd do differently, he said he'd have called in sick.
I would certainly have a whiskey after surviving that.
I don`t like alcohol, but yes, I`d be all in for that.
I'm thinking about a whiskey just after watching this intense video.
Well I don't drink, but I'll sure as hell have one
here i was, sippin whisky and bourbon, and YT suggests me this (i do follow aviation stuff occasionally) shed a few
Descending 1800 ft / min is 30 feet per second.
I was going to be a pilot. Loved the lack of ego I sensed among pilots. Turned out I'm red-green colorblind to some degree, no go.
Wound up in software. He speaks truth. The dominant voices were crushing on many teams over the years. Watch out for the ones who seem to always have instantaneous answers, they do not think deeply, it's all a bluff for personal glory.
Capt Al Haynes recently died on August 25, 2019.. RIP Sir
Tip of the hat. He and his crew did all that for which they were not trained. RIP
Al is one of my all time hero pilots. If he doesn't get control of that rolling plane in the beginning there is no story to tell and the rest of the potential heroics from pilots, crew, and passengers never get told. My favorite of his to the Sioux City controller: "you want me to put it on a runway"? He has the calm composure to joke in a circumstance where there is no reason to expect that he is alive five minutes from now. RIP.
@@bridgefin The point of this talk is that the pilot is NOT the hero,and he doesn't claim to be, either. The whole crew is the hero.
Cpt Haynes was "just" one of this crew, bless his soul.
@@thany3
Wrong. Early on, Haynes applies asymmetric thrust to prevent the plane from a right turn which can't be stopped with stick and which will cause a rollover and dive into the ground. That allowed the subsequent cooperation of the crew to figure out how to get some control and attempt a landing. The latter part is the subject of the talk. There is no crew cooperation without Haynes saving all on board first.
I have a friend who is a commercial pilot, and his one outstanding characteristic is that he is unflappable under pressure. Capt. Haynes, as well as Capt. Sully, are of this same mold. You want people in the cockpit who calmly work through a problem, not ones who will go looking for a parachute!
Passenger: "I need a whiskey."
Barman: "Heavy day huh?"
Passenger: "Yeah... Yeah, i'd think so..."
Barman: "Any particular reason?"
Passenger: **points at plane crash on television.** "Yeah, i just landed."
legend
Barman: 'Looks at the plane crash, then looks at the survivor, then looks back again...'
Barman: 'instantly refills the survivor's glass then pours another glass and gulps it down in one' "Do you want to call your family? Don't worry, it's on us."
@@dragonsword7370 Your a good man!
Yeah, airline lost my luggage.
I misread it "Batman"...it improved the joke, IMHO.
15 years after that crash I was asked to edit a video by the GM at the plant that repaired the fan blades for that engine. He told me he'd never forget the day that he got the call from NTSB telling him to gather up all of the records for the engine repairs and be in Chicago the next day along with the Quality Manager.
I still work at the plant here in 2020 and many of the folks who worked to repair commercial engine fan blades are retired but many more are my friends who work there. I know bringing up United 232 is taboo. The repair service was cleared of any wrong doing but my friends still wish they had a crystal ball to find the tiny crack that lead to the failure.
Capt. Al Haynes who passed almost a year ago along with the 3 other crew members were heroes that day.
I take my job very serious, even though I'm not a tech or quality control, maintaining the computers and integrity of the data used to repair planes is my job. Watching this video is a reminder to try making everyone there be a team player to repair those magnificent flying machines.
Thanks for sharing first hand experience!
Do you have any friends that fly small planes that may take me up I’d love to try to get my ppl? I know it’s a long shot but ay anyways thank you for your time
wow that must have been a very sobering story
So many accidents are caused by cutting corners in maintenance, and some countries dole out prison terms to maintenance crew. But retelling the story to yourself in different ways where you have, say, a hunch just in time - that’s how grief works. It’s hard work, but it trims your emotional craft and keeps you aware of how important your work is.
Yes your job is totally important too. Maintaining records esp in the aviation industry is so terribly vital!
While this talk is designed for software engineers, I believe the principles of leadership can be applied to any group. Well worth the watch.
Maybe change the title, though? I think anyone knows how to crash a plane. I used to do it all the time during the Flight Simulator games, lol.
The guy who returned to get his suitcase then went to the airport bar is a legend
I think it was out of nerves, not out of necessity
@@Dexter101x Definitely going through shock.
wonder what kind of whiskey he ordered? if it were me i'd have splurged on something special. alive!
Honestly I would need a glass of whisky after that, too.
They don’t make em’ like that anymore!
A millennial would just have curled up and cried.
I remember having a conversation with my father about this crash. At the time he was an airline pilot with 30,000+ hours. He was known for successfully pulling off maneuvers that simulator check pilots and FAA checkride pilots had never seen performed before successfully. But when I asked him about this particular crash, he just said, "I couldn't do that." UAL 232 was a truly amazing feat.
All the DC-10s were subsequently retrofitted with excess flow valves in the hydraulic systems. That means that a failed hydraulic line will now be isolated automatically. Design lesson learnt.
Now imagine if the pilot was not hired and someone else was there in his place because the company had a diversity hiring policy and his sex or skin color or nationality were all filled up. Someone of his unique skills and nerves of steel may not have been in the drivers seat and as a result hundreds more die. Your comment is great and underlines the importance of competence over diversity. Took the best to pull that miracle off and yes it was lucky he was flying.
DoYouThinkForUrselF she left you on read huh? That’s rough buddy.
@@graceclausen6966 i see you are now suffering from cognitive dissonance Grace =) My post really struck you, that's quite the response there Grace. You might want to think about why you posted that lol. I can help you out if you would like to discuss it further, people such as you need help or you risk destabilizing societies and we will end up going through yet another type of authoritarian regime.
@@DoYouThinkForUrselF Huh, an interesting statement. But the reality was that this particular pilot (my father) was NOT hired for many years by airlines because they all had height restrictions based on what they believed pilots should LOOK like (tall, dark, handsome males that fit some movie-pilot ideal). My dad, being quite short, was not considered for airline jobs for many years due to characteristics that were in no way relevant to his flying abilities. It was only after the NOW movement in the early 80s and the push made by female pilots trying to enter the industry that irrelevant height restrictions were finally dropped by the airlines, thus allowing my dad to put his unique skills and competence to use for the benefit of the hundreds of thousands of passengers he flew all over the country before retiring.
"Do whatever you can do to keep us away from the city."
Those are the words of a true hero.
no heros
@Alyx Buckmann No heros allowed
AMEN
@@zelda_smile what?
@@Rugg-qk4pl Source: 38:33
I had the privilege of seeing Captain Haynes speak on this a few years later at an FAA safety seminar. To hear him tell this story (and know the entire flight crew lived through it) was chilling and amazing.
i watched 39 minutes of talk about airplanes just to hear that this is developer conference
didnt even raealise this was a develeopr conferenace
I watched 0.39 minutes of it and realized it's not relevant to my interests.
@@TheReaverOfDarkness You missed out, it was interesting. It doesn't pertain to my interests either, but it was a good talk.
What's a developing conference?
@@stephenharperisgay I get a lot of good talks on the internet. My time is limited.
an ex-military pilot, i have tremendous empathy for airmen struggling to control disabled aircraft. this is by far the most compelling and informative recounting of united 232 among six or so i have seen.
i flew usaf c-141's which may have been the last and largest jet that could be flown in "tab operable" mode, which employed a mechanical connection between the yoke and the control surfaces in the event of complete hydraulic failure. designed to endure combat damage, it was an incredibly safe and resilient airplane.
I only recently discovered Mr. Means talks and have been binge watching them. I feel it's not hyperbole to say that anyone who wants to manage a modern team of technical developers should have to watch these lectures. I've spent nearly 20 years in software development and It has truly astounded me how ill-equipped, poorly-tempered, and non-agile the people are who ascend in to lead roles. Anyone fortunate enough to have Mr. Means as their senior or mentor is extraordinarily fortunate.
Oh yes. I completely concur.
I not only work in technology, but I'm also an entrepreneur (sales and team building). He is teaching leadership ...and that goes everywhere. I will make it a point to watch any and everything he produces.
maybe you'd/ one would have a different take AFTER having worked with him for a while.
it's easy to be influenced by the aura, charade we often create around ourselves or willingly/ subconsciously be antithetical to what we otherwise profess
His talk on the Three Mile Island nuclear accident really changed how I viewed fault finding. It's so good.
"It was not until 35 minutes after the crash that rescuers identified the debris that was the remains of the cockpit, with the four pilots alive inside. All four recovered from their injuries and eventually returned to flight duty."
Jesus Christ.
The pilots returned to flight duty for the same reasons doctors go back to their jobs even after losing patients; same reasons why athletes fight through torn hamstrings to finish the race.
@Mark Whitfield Lack of transferable skills?
Fuck, it's what keeps me in IT.
Malkevin - Was a full time software engineer for 15 years before i realised i hated it as a career path... i binned working in an office for a blue chip agency and started my own little engineering firm, never been happier.
Malkevin - If i could give you any advice it would be that software development skills are probably the most transferable...
Whatever career you chose to do, from accounting to zoology, you’ll find a place where your software skills can improve on things.
Find a career your happy to do and go for it. The place your old skills will be needed in your new role will present itself.
@@zerg9523 Thanks for the advice, as a matter of fact I recently switched from fixing PEBKACs to software development
I started watching this because I too thought it was about aeroplanes, but Nickolas Means' analysis of the reactions of the crew and his extrapolation to all team situations was riviting, inspirational stuff. This is about an aeroplane but it isn't about areoplanes it's about team dynamics and managemnet put over in an entertaining and dynamic way. I would say essential viewing for anyone working in or managing any sort of team. Highly recommended.
Riveting*
I’m a pro pilot major at a university and a PPL working on his instrument rating with hopes of doing aviation professionally. We went over this crash and a lot of what was mentioned in our Crew Resource Management Class, it was really cool that stuff as specific as “we” language was mentioned here. This stuff is highly important in the team environment of the cockpit, now more than ever since human factors are becoming the greatest issue in aviation.
Human factors, more precisely our lack of understanding thereof and declining ability to interface with, are the leading cause of safety issues in most industries, but are indeed one of, if not *the* most important problems aviation has to deal with.
i recommend watching the many documentaries on this one, along with United Airlines Flight 173.
The one to watch is the "Air Disasters" series episode about this incident. It's great. But, then again, all episodes of Air Disasters are great :-).
Read a book called Black Box Thinking by Matthew Syed.
I'm also going trough my instrument flight rating certification training. Hope u the best and hope to see stripes on Ur shoulder soon
Nice to know I’m not the only one who can pretty much recite these from memory. The process and the dynamics of these events is fascinating. Souix City was horrendous but a superb feat of airmanship.
A couple years after the crash - once he was able to get his hands on a copy - a friend of mine sent me a copy of the NTSB report on the crash. The thing that stuck with me the most was how all the simulator pilots failed to survive where the real-world pilots had and I realized the difference was airmanship - you can't have it in a simulator because the simulator can't tell you where and how it's wounded through touch, only through gauges. If you don't treat a machine like a living thing, it won't treat you like one.
This is partly why the military does daily exercises on things that seem impossible.
I myself have performed over 100 steering gear breakdowns in the navy just in case
3 independent hydraulic pumps fail. Also you train to be able to analyze information from dials to identify and mitigate calamities. You need to know your installation well to do this. Lovely presentation by the way, it felt like a puzzle story but I figured it was the butler.
It was Col. Mustard in the kitchen with a phone charger...
*Commercial airliner cartwheels down a runway in a ball of fire and smoke*
That one dude: Holy shit my suitcase!
I haven't had a drink in going on 5 years, now. I can tell you now, if I'd been there and lived through that crash/landing, I'd have been taking turns buying drinks with that other guy, and hell, I'd have carried his suitcase for him.
Outstanding presentation by Nikokolas Means. He really made all the salient points perfectly clear in a very entertaining and informative manner. I'll bet we've all worked in an environment like the previously mentioned Flight 173 where the Captain kept working the nose gear indicator problem despite the First Officer and Flight Engineer telling him they were running out of fuel. It takes a strong person to lead any crew, but an even stronger one to know when to listen to them. Great video!
Talk about balls of steel! The whole flight crew is a portrait in bravery.
If you know you're boned don't give up until you're face first in the ground.
This could have had a lot worse loss of life. That's not going to bring the dead back but at the same time there are people who went home who wouldn't have if not for a bunch of people who kept their cool.
Yeah, that's the third thing I got from it.
Wow....what a lecture. Every pilot in the world should watch this, especially the last few minutes of it.
Great speaker.
The story of United Airlines Flight 232 was neat, the rest is just your usual narcissistic managerial circle jerk. These conferences are pure vanity projects for the insecure managerial class. No wisdom is ever imparted, this one was based on a decent anecdote though...
This presenter understands leadership
Please explain why the last few minutes of it - where he is praising the dogma of diversity (which translates to "don't hire the best person for the job, hire some minority we're missing so we look good in statistics") - is the best part?
Because this is what diversity means in practice.
Yammo Yammamoto They speaker was talking about diversity in skill set and educational background, not racial diversity.
@@dave5194
You say that... and perhaps you're right...
...but terms like "Diversity", especially when used in conjunction with "Marginalized voices" is a de-facto litmus test to spotting intersectional zealot.
Seen several documentaries on this flight, but I still found this presentation enjoyable to watch.
RUclips: How to crash an airplane.
Me: Oh good, 2020 was getting depressing.
But not from the air, don't be so dramatic
@Standard Crow Oh, that one is easy:
Step 1: Listen to the WHO and the CDC
Step 2: Don't listen to the real experts
Step 3: Panic
Step 4: Shut the economy down
Step 5: Establish a "new normal" so that it won't recover
Step 6: Negative Profit
J P _wait a minute_
Planes in 2024: Hold my beer
I've seen this before and I still can't watch this without tearing up.
Me too, gets me when it shows the crash. I cannot imagine the fear of all those poor people.
"They're not going to have enough airspeed to make it to the ground." I respectfully disagree.
That's fucked up...lmfao
Good thing this plane wasn't flown by an AI. If you asked it if it can make it to the ground, it would have happily said "sure, that's a no-brainer".
@@renerpho Actually, machines have been operating vehicles better than humans pretty much since their development. In World War 2, the origin of cybernetics research came with a rapid breakthrough leading to anti-air cannons becoming automated so that they could shoot down pilots who were using advanced evasive maneuvers. The response, then, was to automate the evasive maneuvers as well. Human pilots and gunners were rapidly outclassed for this particular task. In the Apollo program, they had to automate nearly all of the flight controls because humans (even career pilots) couldn't be trusted to fly a spacecraft as safely as a cybernetics array could. Factories have been increasing the amount of automation in part to increase safety, and they have been hugely successful. Flawed humans believed, irrationally and contrary to the evidence, that computer drivers were inferior to humans and unsafe to have on the roads--however barely as soon as any company was allowed to produce automated cars, they beat human safety ratings within months of development.
No, if that plane had been flown by a computer, it wouldn't have had any trouble. The fact that a human believed the plane couldn't make it despite it clearly having more aerodynamic momentum than it needed, demonstrates the flaws of the humans trying to fly the machinery.
@@TheReaverOfDarkness No actively serving military aircraft performs evasive maneuvers automatically, the closest any WW2 plane would have got was the stuka's automatic dive brakes linked to the bomb release. You might be thinking of the fly-by-wire used to keep the plane flying straight and under control, but all the input and decision making is still done by the pilot, even in something as advanced as the F-35. And on the note of controlling damaged aircraft, no autopilot system that exists in this world would know how to deal with complete loss of all control surfaces, it would have simply rolled to the right and dived into a fiery death for all onboard.
As for the moon landing, that was a maneuver performed without an atmosphere, while under lunar gravity, in a basically sterile environment where precision was called for. In this case, yes, it was essentially a machine that controlled the descent. However, issues and malfunctions that occurred before that stage, and they did occur, all had to be rectified by the astronauts manually.
Early technology was terribly bad at coping with situations it was not designed for, skilled and well trained operators were, and still are, an essential part of any flight. You'll notice that they turned the autopilot off as the first step in response to emergency, this is because the autopilot does not know how to do anything other than make gentle turns and fly straight and level at a set altitude. It does not know how to avoid terrain, or even land the plane, let alone control it in a near impossible situation.
Technology progresses fast for our generation, and it certainly is a crucial part of making our lives safer and more efficient. However, despite modern planes effectively being able to fly themselves, we should not forget that machines will only know how to do what they were designed to do. Maybe one day, we'll have an AI that can control a plane in every conceivable emergency scenario, but until then, those thousands of hours of flying will be the only thing between you and the ground, six feet under, when the chips are down.
@@MarionTIA It won't be long before we have computer pilots. I give it a few decades, tops.
Truly amazing bit of flying by Capt. Haynes. I've been flying for more than 30 years and cannot remember even HEARING about any situation like this. Capt. Haynes is one in a hundred thousand. My hat is off to you, Al.
That is what they are trained to do, there was also a DC-10 technician in the jump seat.
@@AFuller2020 Capt. Al Haynes was the Captain and as such, it was he that implemented CRM in the cockpit of that airplane. It was BEFORE Denny Fitch, who was a passenger at the beginning of the flight, a DC10 pilot AND a DC10 CHECK PILOT for United AL, volunteered to assist and handle the throttles for the duration of the flight. Al Haynes was flying the plane and deserves credit for saving g lives ... as much or perhaps more than the "technician" you referred to. Fitch was not a "technician". You want to piss him off, call him a tech.
I work private security at a college near me and got shown this video by my boss. By far the best video on positive leadership I've ever seen.
Pleased to see the title doesn’t contain the word “TUTORIAL”
I'm disappointed.
@@thennoth2860 ALMOST DIED GONE SEXUAL
@@thennoth2860 dont forget the shocked emoji on the side of the thhumbnail
ALLAHWAKBAR
import b737max
Best team speech I have ever heard.
I had a short time in software development, with two of us quite young, and two others a bit older, however this was the exactly the approach that was taken.... And we all learned together, ie, the younger of us learned from the more experienced, but also the older picked up some new tricks that us younger ones found.... Found by mistakes.
I've watched a few different recountings of Flight 232, and the worst part is the flight attendant remembering how she did what she was trained to do and told parents to put their children on the floors. That ended poorly for many.... She felt awful, but it wasn't really her fault. She did everything she could. It's amazing they were even able to get down without completely losing control.
Captain Haynes has just passed away a couple of days ago. Saw the news straight after watching this. RIP.
title: How to crash an airplane
me: sudo apt install mcas
First thing I thought of when I read the title as well 😁
Hilarious!
user not in /etc/sudoers. This incident will be reported.
Does anyone know the difference between MCAS and phugoid movement?
MelonPlayzYT so why was mcas such a big issue? The whole argument about pilots not knowing about it is useless.
When they say they are “controlling turns by power” you know that aircraft is Fuuuuucked up.
When you have a problem and it needs solving, allow ideas from anyone, no matter how stupid. It just might lead to the solution.
Simple example, i was over hearing developers in another dept. discussing washed out pictures taken from a camera.
I poked my nose in. They were discussing a software solution. I said, i know what is causing that and the solution. The glass plate in front of the camera needs angling, like airport control tower windows.
The flash gun was reflecting light of the camera lense and it was being reflected into the camera.
So i designed a simple sloping glass plate and it solved the problem.
Just over 30 years ago I remember watching this footage on the headline news. I was amazed that *anyone* managed to survive that crash, much less the number of people who walked away with few or no injuries. This landing truly was a great example of excellent leadership.
On a positive note GE were so determined to find the missing pieces of the engine they put a cash bounty out the public to find it sure enough they did
It still wasn't the reward that found it though. It was just some farmer harvesting his field and ran over it by chance. And yes, he was able to collect the reward.
@@Thumbsupurbum GE were able to conduct a forensic examination and fond that it was a manufacturing defect during the casting process at the time it wasn't understood then. Now they know they had rectified the defect.
These details in analyzing every tiny bit of each and every incident/accident is what makes flying more safe than ever. You can't predict all possible scenarios on such a complex system as an aircraft flying, but you have to do whatever possible to avoid the same issue to happen again.
Sadly that's the point where the 737Max story failed - by running into the same accident twice despite the known issue and several months time in between.
@@magicalsnek the problem with 737MAX is that Boeing knew that by repositioning the engine pylons to allow fitment of bigger engines changed the aerodynamic characteristics and the addition of the MCAS System would allow for AOA instability. Boeing instead chose to cut corners on the engineering aspects of the 737 and management chose to overrule engineers decisions despite the concerns raised by them. Boeing has had a proud history of setting engineering standards of aircraft manufacturing and because of greed has exposed Boeing into a compromising situation that it shouldn't of been in the first place. They played a very dangerous game and will have huge implications as to it's future survival.
@@jimpikoulis6726 Totally agree. They gambled their reputation. Which unfortunately will have greater financial impact than the loss of lives.
The NSA every time somebody clicks on this video:
🤨
ELI5?
@@AlexanderBukh They are wondering why you would watvh a video on how to crash an airplane. NSA beeing the National Security Agency
I just see a square. What is that symbol?
RUclips: Let's recommend this gentleman this video about how to crash airplanes.
Me : Wtf? Ok let's see...
@Captain Caveman i worked at the nsa and i was not a douchebag, also the the FBI is the agency that would be concerned of US persons watching this video
"Yeah I'll be having Whiskey"
* Bartender pours glass *
"Nice of you to save a glass for someone else."
* Bartender suspiciously hands man the bottle *
This was a very, very difficult video to watch because my fiancé of 5 days and her grandmother were killed in the crash of American Airlines flight 191 at O’Hare Airport on 5/25/1979, another DC 10 crash. I watched this because I wanted something hopeful to think about and fortunately the fact that some survived was right up front in the video. It was worth watching. Thanks for this. Great team leadership lesson. Been torn up and haunted for 41 years because we were only 19 at the time.
Sincere thanks.
This is superb--it's the best presentation of this incident I've seen from anyone.
I had the honor and pleasure of seeing Captain Haynes in Charleston.
That is incredible, and Nickolas is a great storyteller.
And an arrogant one one at that.
@@PetrGladkikh What did he do?
Nobody going to comment on how skillful of a public speaker he is? Not a single um or uh, no annoying quirks. Just smooth, articulate and interesting. Good job on the presentation.
That was an incredible talk! Gifted storyteller, I was riveted!
I see the difference in group conversations all the time: when somebody tries to dominate, the group splits up.
38:37, closed captions: "Cockpit resource management emphasizes cooperation over hookers." I sure hope it does o.O
I mean, if the hookers don't know how to cooperate, that IS a bit of a negative...
If anyone's going to know about cooperative management of a cockpit resource...
heroics* lol I didn't hear hookers
@@quandaviousvonheadsonzingl6453 it's in the CC
Whoever wrote the closed captions was on crack.
The check pilot broke down in the hospital when he found out the didn’t save all the passengers.
:(
That aircraft crash landed with a flightdeck teeming with good men. We should all be so lucky to find ourselves on an aircraft flown by highly competent, good men and women every time we step in a fuselage.
BW Acuff agreed. In fact, I’ve heard the use the cockpit recording of that flight to teach how ideal cockpit communication should happen in a crisis. It was key to their success.
Yes he was devastated so sad that he had done all anyone(human or machine) could have and yet still felt so much guilt Survivors guilt is horrible
"Haha! You wanna be specific and make it a runway, huh?" Is possibly my favourite cockpit to ATC comment of all time. After everything this crew has been through, knowing the terrifyingly low odds of this situation, he still had time to crack a little joke.
“Land on any runway”
My response to this:
“Does the grass count?”
I worked on an IT team with a sociopath. Despite everyone's urging, management promoted him to our supervisor, because he *always* made himself out to be the hero. Within a year one guy was dead from a heart attack and everyone else had moved on.
This is one of the big smells you can notice when you're talking to a team that's adopting agile practices. Ask them to tell their story of the toughest challenge they've worked on so far. If the story turns into "bull of the woods developer over there saved us all" you know you've got an immature team that won't have trust, that there'll be some clown who thinks he knows a *lot* more than he does, and management will be disconnected and most likely content with "feeding the biggest lion and letting him dole out the scraps." I consult for a living, and I **HATE** going into that kind of a team. If I were closer to independently wealthy, it would be enough of a pain that I'd just refuse to go to shops that operate that way. Hero culture is basically synonymous with shitty leadership.
@@Calphool222 You just hit on your key to becoming independently wealthy. Don't work for those kinds of teams, manage your lifestyle to afford to live until you make more. You are costing your contributional life by working in areas that drain your energy. If you are consulting you have the choice, but money management and allocation will be necessary initially.
You're lucky. The times I was on teams like that, the supervisors were disgustingly healthy.
This is truly one of the greatest stories I've ever heard. The storytelling and the motives he gains from it are by far the greatest I've ever heard. Amazing.
I’ve watched about 200 of these, and there are a lot of mind blowing surprises. All time favorite: The long, British telling of the world’s most mysterious flight: British Air Flight 8 out of Singapore, covered in blue St. Elmo’s fire, falling to earth like an Angel. It changed aviation forever.
Very good talk! Thank you. I'm a lead developer too and I try to stay above the minutiae of the decisions that devs below me take as much as I can but it's good to be reminded that sometimes it can be what makes or breaks a project.
Definately one of the best videos youtube recommended so far.
This story made my day. I’ll be sure to watch this again when I am in dire need for hope in humanity
RUclips: Yeah sure, let's recommend him this
Me: Yeah sure let's watch this
My FBI agent: * Looks at the Title * *Mhm...*
@@eltigre4419 They had to get rid of the disk drive to fit him in there
@@eltigre4419 Do FBI agents have their little FBI agents as well?
Amazing presentation.
Really rammed the point was fermenting in the whole presentation in the last 5 mins.
Excellent.
Luv and Peace.
In aviation they say: "There is not a problem so bad that you can not make it worse"
From Wikipedia - "He was referred to as a hero, but refused to say he was one. He gave all the credit to the flight attendants, who he believed did not receive enough credit for the work they did." - That's how you know he's a legend.
I opened this video to see what I could learn in ten minutes before I made dinner, and almost 40 minutes later I checked to see how close I was to ten minutes. Then I learned that this talk was given in order to communicate the power of diverse voices in teams at a software development conference. I love learning new things every day.
The rigidity of the DC 10 fuselage barrels is a major contributor to the survival rate of this crash. MDC built extremely rugged aircraft.
They needed to because the damn thing crashed all the time. The L1011 on the other hand was a much better competing design. I'm not disagreeing with you it's just I wish the L1011 had been the sales leader. But the delay of the Rolls Royce engine and their bankruptcy doomed the project to low sales as it was much later to market than the DC10.
The flexibility of the crew was essential as well...
Well in the aviation world we have a name for the DC10, the death chamber 10
The shame was that Douglas didn't provide the hydraulic systems with Hydraulic fuses as Lockheed did on the (more expensive) Tristar. Hydraulic fuses shut off sections of the hydraulic system if they sense fluid loss. Also the L1011 had four hydraulic systems with one always differently routed.
@@SuperHeatherMorris The DC-10 got hydraulic fuses retrofitted after this accident.
"We can't control the plane. Prepare the cabin and tell everyone. When I say brace I want everyone to brace. Good luck."
Thanks.
That's pretty awesome
My instructor had me control a Cessna 150 with just the throttle and doors, pushing them open to turn, I set up to land that way, then landed the conventional way.
That must've been a bitch with the torque roll?
Q: Where do badass pilots come from, Dad?
A: Badass flight instructors, Son.
alaskanalain wait what? You physically pushed the L or R doors open as a means of turning the plane’s course??
How did you reach the right side door? Did your instructor open that one on command?
@@CynicalOldDwarf probably. Pitch can be controlled partially with throttle. Airspeed up? Pitch up.
Roll? The dihedral of a Cessna has a similar effect to the sweep of airliner wings. They have a centering tendency.
No idea why this showed up in my recommendations but my God this was amazing. I was literally engaged the entire time and almost shed a tear at the end.
I am minutes away from my absolute latest bedtime, and damn was I engaged. I'm gonna pass out right now though
This has been in my recommendations for weeks. I'm very happy I finally clicked on it.
Title: how to crash an airplane
Me: airplane mode: off
The reason that is a thing is because, if 300 people all had data on it would mess with the GPS. But it would not crash the plane.
"You can only make right turns?"
I half-expected a Zoolander slide there.
"I picked a hell of a week to stop sniffing glue..."
Maybe Kareem Abdul Jabbar dropped his squeegee in the engine.
Inappropriate
@@hjr2000 Please remove the stick from your posterior.
Comedy is the most appropriate response to tragedy, but this is just not that clever lol
@@jek__ not very mature are you. Grow up.
I remember this event I was working midnights and saw a lot of this of TV. It was an incredible thing to witness and the crew deserve every bit of praise they get. You can bet changes were made to the routing of the hydraulic lines after this.
This is an awesome presentation. I knew a lot of this story already because I’m also obsessed with studying airline crashes. But I learned even more after this. He’s a great speaker and is very knowledgeable about this crash.
I went to Aircraft Battle Damage Repair class with some highly experienced Sioux City Air National Guard aircraft maintainers who helped rescue the survivors. Their descriptions were harrowing but all were amazed the crash landing worked as well as it did.
Gotta luv closed caption auto suggestion "emphasizes cooperation over hookers", instead of "heroics"! LOL!
RIP Denny Fitch. An amazing man.
i didn't see anyone mention it, but this speaker did a phenomenal job with this talk. the pacing and focus of his storytelling, as well as the balance between the narrative and explanatory background information, was perfect. good shit dude!
Outstanding! I am both a Software Engineer AND a pilot, so I can appreciate both subjects.
North Atlantic, 1912: "Icebergs are no problem, this ship is designed with redundant sealed compartments to be completely un-sinkable."
except that neither the White Star Line nor her builders called Titanic unsinkable, and a lot of modern ships would have had worse odds against the same collision. I hate when people spread misinformation about the Titanic
@@qualifiedawesomeness9968 I was paraphrasing for comedic effect, but the actual quotes are pretty much the same:
"There is no danger that Titanic will sink. The boat is unsinkable and nothing but inconvenience will be suffered by the passengers."
Phillip Franklin, White Star Line vice-president, 1912.
Also:
The February 1993 issue of The Titanic Commutator unearthed a White Star promotional flyer for the Olympic and Titanic that claimed “as far as it is possible to do, these two wonderful vessels are designed to be unsinkable.”
www.bbc.com/future/article/20120402-the-myth-of-the-unsinkable-ship
www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinking-the-unsinkable/
@@qualifiedawesomeness9968 You obviously can't speak for all of White Star Line employees and the most likely PR work to divert blame afterwards. It is a known quote:
“We place absolute confidence in the Titanic. We believe that the boat is unsinkable.” - Philip Franklin, Vice-President of White Star Line, owners of Titanic.
So there is a chance you are the one spreading misinformation.
@@Darrylx444 I couldn't find a single primary source for these quotes, and as far as I could find, it was never stated without qualifiers like "almost" or "practically" until *after* the ship sank.
Richard Howells The Myth of the Titanic, ISBN 0-333-72597-2
Staff (19 April 1912). "Lead Article". The Engineer. "The phrase 'unsinkable ships' is certainly not one that has originated from the builders"
@@EdwinChenLoo see above
You are an excellent story teller. My compliments. Your TMI was also excellent.
38:34 The subtitles: _"Cockpit resource management emphasizes cooperation over hookers."_
One would hope...lol
That is funnnnnnyyyy.
@@AFuller2020 I see you enjoy a full life...that's why you feel the need to attack other people for their sense of humor. Please...help us understand...what SHOULD we find funny? And since you are such a sophisticated person...tell us what you do to improve this world? Certainly you do something which keeps the world spinning...
Seems like the priorities got a bit scrambled? Hookers vs immediate danger - make mine blonde please!
There's also a PlayBoy at 21:33
(instead of plane)
The AI making these subs must have read a lot of porn magazines.
"loses lift on the wings and start to descend again. The playboy is trying to find equilibrium"
I think every school/college, place of employment etc. should play this video at an appropriate time. These lessons can be applied to every part of life. If CRM can save lives, it would definitely have positive influences elsewhere. The almost perfect job performed by the entire flight crew and passengers saved the majority of the lives on board, great job putting this video together, this will serve to save countless more lives! You should all be extremely proud of yourselves!
I've listened to this speech about three times over just as many years and it remains as riveting and engaging with a hard and clear point on team management and leadership at the end. Hes a brilliant speaker, that timing and pacing and the highly interesting allegorist content is captivating.
From what I recall (assuming I'm not under shadow-ban -- I wasn't trolling or anything)...
1. Throttles:
They were unable to pull the engine throttle closed, but were able to once they hit the firewall cut-off, it disengages hydraulics and electrical power to the engine, and from what I remember reading, the throttle slid back at that point.
2. Phugoid Oscillations:
Pitch can start either up or down: This aircraft sustained some damage to the horizontal stabilizer, which actually caused the trim-speed to go down from 270 to 215 knots indicated airspeed. If the plane's over the trim speed, you'll pitch up (if below, you will pitch down) until speed drops below it, and then end up descending until speed ends up going back up, and so on.
The way to counter the phugoids was almost totally counter-intuitive, as the plane was pitching up, you had to pull the throttles back; as you went down you had to push them up.
3. Inability to make left turns:
The aircraft didn't just have damage to the stabilizer, the ailerons were stuck upwards slightly on the right side (if I recall), which is why it would have a marked tendency to go to the right and not the left. As the plane descended, engine thrust levels went up and it became possible to force the airplane through a nice wide left turn.
4. Rate of Descent:
The aircraft's descent rate ranged from 1620 to 1854 feet per minute as they were making their final approach.
5. Crash sequence:
While there might have been a phugoid starting, the problem seemed to be that the right wing started to dip. While they did try and push up the number 3 engine to counter this movement, the engines take a few seconds to respond to power inputs, and there's momentum. The aircraft struck the ground with both the nose gear/right landing-gear, and the right tip. The force of the impact caused the tail to come off (not just the #2 engine, the whole tail). The stabilizer imposes a downward load on the plane (the center of lift is behind the center of gravity which produces a naturally stable aircraft), and with it gone, the plane pitched up and that popped the rear fuselage up and that set up the cartwheeling motion.
BTW: I'm also a bit of a person who reads about accidents and disasters: I'm also a criminal justice major (it's kind of the same thing, you're trying to figure out what happened -- in one case, it's why a plane crashed/a reactor melted-down, and in the other why somebody did what they did, I often read about murders and serial killers, but still, the why is pretty interesting -- disturbing, sure...)
"hey hey look look at me! Everyone look at me! I know stuff too".
Seriously dude. It was a talk based on a story with the intent of improving team dynamics.
What you did... With that comment... Is how to be the douche in a team. You appear to have taken nothing from the talk itself beyond needing to stroke your ego by making minor inconsequential corrections to facts of the story that bear little on the actual focus of the talk.
You are effectively being the "know-it-all, dominant voice" he is talking about.
@@lmaoroflcopter What's wrong with providing some technical details/corrections? It's not criticising Nickolas but simply adding these points for anyone interested. While it doesn't bring the team dynamics topic forward, it certainly is helpful to understand the accident a little better.
@@magicalsnek it's backhanded at best. It's a criticism of his talk because this person felt some minutia didn't match reality when in fact they add little to nothing of consequence to the actual lesson being taught here.
@@lmaoroflcopter You are the one being the douche. The whole teamwork thing is to let everybody have input. You're literally telling him to stop correcting the captain and follow the captain into the ground.
@@Markle2k RIP the entire team of strangers in this thread
If you found this story interesting there is an excellent book:
Flight 232
A Story of Disaster and Survival
By: Laurence Gonzales
I would also recommend the audio book version narrated by Victor Bevine.
As my recently deceased father in law always used to say "were all in this together" may he rest in peace. The same to all who lost their lives in this crash. Kudos to Capt. Al Haynes and the rest of the flight crew and attendants, what amazing professionals!
What a great walk-through of that accident. But I think watching almost 40 minutes to know that this whole story is about a team building exercise. I still love it.
I vividly remember this like it happened yesterday. i was about 4 months old, my eyes glued to the Telly!!!! I wrote a long book explaining how i felt and my family felt that day. Took me 3 weeks to complete. 11 chapters its called (When I was 4 months old - The Plane Went Down). NYT Best seller
In every aspect of my life where there was a team involved, I've ALWAYS incorporated it as a team effort. Yes there is a leader, me, but several times I was not that leader at a particular moment and another player took the reins. Almost always said player made the right decision. I may have been 'the captain' but I played the team as if I was merely a director, not a dictator.
GOLLY that still makes me feel so good. Dozen or so years later I ran across a frozen pond hockey player on my team and he reminisced some of those days. He actually thanked me for not being a controlling leader, he noticed I let others play they way they play. 🤗👍
Him: ‘It was a DC-10’
Me: *Here we go again*
Amazing story, and superb instinctual flying.
CRM has been an issue with Asian airlines where the social culture or the crew has far more respect placed based on the hierarchy in the cockpit, and co-pilots don't want to show disrespect to the captain.
@@fdzaviation While I'm not sure if I'm under a shadowban or not, I don't think the nuclear bomb was necessary to defeat Japan. They would have probable crumbled without any need for occupation.
@@petero.7487 they would, but it would have take much longer. You only have to see the mentality on the islands. Cut off, in a hopeless position, but still fighting to the last man.
I could easily see the entire homeland doing exactly the same, it would have been horrendous.
Sometimes you do need to give someone a huge, over powering slap, to show them they are going to lose. Don't forget, even with the Hiroshima bomb, the Japanese reaction was "You can only do that once!".
@@juststeve5542: Actually even the US Strategic Bombing Survey stated that they would have probably folded by the end of 1945.
@@fdzaviation I know you were being facetious, but there is actual genetic evidence of East Asians being much more prone to social pressures than other ethnic groups. Cultures arise from genetics, not out of thin air.
@@petero.7487 Bullshit. Do you have any idea how FEW Japanese soldiers ever surrendered? Our best estimates were we'd loose another 100,000 Americans if we hadn't ended the war when we did. We didn't start the war with Japan. Karma is a bitch.
Recently discovered Nick Means and his LeadDev talks. He's an incredibly talented and detail focused speaker, presenter and an imaginative leader. I'm a 4,000 pilot and flight instructor and senior team leader in business. His stuff is a great way to begin a management or team offsite. Keep bringing the good stuff!
The composure of these professionals while fighting the misbehaving plane with 200+ ppl on board is simply amazing
One extra note that rarely gets talked about: The Sioux City emergency response team had recently run a crash simulation drill on this same runway, not just the airport. They used real people and some dummies to simulate helping crash victims. This gave me chills when I first read about it. It’s (almost) like they knew this was going to happen.
Yeah, true, I think you can find a pretty decent made for TV movie of it around here. Wish I could remember the name.
@@DrMackSplackem- "Crash Landing: The Rescue of Flight 232" (1992). The cinematographer of that project, William Wages, was one of my editorial clients and told amazing stories of how the rescuers on the ground reacted just right to save many lives after the DC-10 came to a stop.
@@bobcastro9386 Oh, how awesome is this? Thank you so much! This incident has so many levels of serendipity that it's almost spooky.
Ted talk : Hurry, times running out...
This guy : Chicken sticks!
My friend's mom was a flight attendant on this flight - she survived.
is she hot?
@@chopperdown9114 she's out of your league.
My friend was on that flight that day..... he didn't survive.... RIP John
She wouldn't happen to be a no-kids-should-fly-for-a-penny lobbyist type of FA, would she?
I was a corporate jet pilot when this happened. Flight Safety International, where we trained, strongly emphasized Cockpit Resource Management in their pilot training after this accident. I expect it probably prevented a few accidents; it certainly improved cockpit communication and safety during the remainder of my career. This was a "watershed" accident that had many ramifications and subsequent changes in the aviation industry.
What an amazing crew. I'm not one to do so, but this choked me up a bit. That entire crew: flight deck, cabin, and hastily recruited captain, are absolute legends!
Whoever did the original subtitles for this took some serious liberties with it. A ton of sentences were completely rephrased and included several mistakes, making it no better than RUclips's auto captioning (actually much worse IMO).
While the subtitles are locked by White October themselves, we CAN make a non-UK English "translation". I've spent some time transcribing the draft up until 7:27.8 for today. If anyone has time and genuinely wants to see this video be more accessible to people with or without hearing impairments, please give some time and transcribe a line or two.
Together, we can fight back against shitty transciptions of highly valuable resources, such as "Cockpit resource management emphasizes cooperation over hookers" and "The playboy is trying to find equilibrium".
"Cockpit resource management emphasizes cooperation over hookers"
**Engine Explodes**
Flight Engineer: Ahh, we lost an engine it's _finnnne_
The cartoon dog sat in the burning building comes to mind. Also, "routine engine failure". Routine. Jeez.
Very, very well done! Thank you Nickolas!!
I'm addicted to Nick's videos. Superbly researched, and draws exactly the bigger picture of what the incidents should teach organizations or teams. Keep them coming, Nick!!
Al Haynes was an amazing man who could think under pressure. It is a tribute to him that even after saving half the passengers under impossible circumstances, that he was wracked with guilt for not saving them all. He died this August - RIP Captain Haynes.
Actually well known bluegrass musician Pete Wernick was on that flight, and his story sounds like he was the guy who got his suitcase, but he actually went back to get his banjo in the case, picked it up and still plays it today.
13:59
direct from the mig21-bis manual....
"if plane catches on fire.... step 1..... eject immediately"