How Strong Is Anbu Kakashi: ruclips.net/video/YaXzOb_OXZs/видео.htmlsi=JEyyLVSDEa3Zu4Zx How Strong Is Anbu Itachi: ruclips.net/video/9wYiN_ONSxI/видео.htmlsi=RXsAAqTKph7ySdFS
i'm pretty sure hashirama was the strongest at every single age if you don't include otsutsuki, but yeah, it would be somewhat speculation edit: after hashirams dies it's likely hiruzen for many years and then kakuzu for many years. after kakuzu it's black zetsu for 2900 years.
Strongest of every age is hashirama. forget powerscaling, buddha with ten fucking million arms will slap anyone else into submission, including otsutsuki.
Yo btw I’m in the process of reading through the DB manga and digging into the scaling, so if you’re interested in connecting on discord and getting a collab in sometime lmk 🫡 discord.gg/eSZM7qPC
@ The verse has a weird mechanic of developing character strength until age 16-20 with the exception of team 7. The main characters seem to have limitless potential despite being weak at early ages in comparison. Most people only seem to get stronger when fighting Naruto because now they are allowed to be that strong since Naruto is.
the leaf also changed the rules on graduation and other things so that no one could start as young as Kakashi, same way they added years to Itachi age so he could graduate and join anbu
That’s not technically true. They didn’t change when they could start, but after Itachi’s generation (still getting pushed through early because of war time), they couldn’t graduate until they were at least 11
@@sageofthickcalves I think he means Itachi age get changed by Leaf Village. Like when he become Anbu he was called 13 year old. But in reality he was 12 year old because Leaf added 1 year to his age so he can join Anbu or something like these
Just a suggestion: maybe show all of the placements on screen at the conclusion portion in a kind of tiermaker format. You could even use the same graphic with the characters redacted for the thumbnail.
Question, can you do a ranking based on speed, pre 6 paths characters? For example I have a good gauge on Minato and tobiramas speed but I have a hard time placing hashiramas speed for example in comparison or Madaras speed. Anyway great video as always !
W idea, I've recommended something similar for TG but would love to see it here as well. Something like speed brackets (who is KCM1 level, who is KCM2 level), what really puts somebody a "blitz tier above", etc
@sageofthickcalves i appreciate the replies!!! can you do a how strong would naruto be if he was trained by a different sanin?? and do it for all of team 7
19:38 don't think i didn't notice the switch of sasuke being above naruto in the 20 yr old because of the "kakashi's strongest student" statement from the novelisation of the last. Your slick for that sage
Shouldn't need a statement to confirm the obvious. Sasuke can blitz him the same as before, where he would have immediately killed him if he sliced him in half with a lightning sword like Madara instead of smacking him with Chidori, but now he has Rinnegan mastery.
@@muhammedgezer3915 He gasped in pain & theres a big difference between Chidori and a lightning sword. The latter is designed to slice. Juubi Madara wasn't even pierced by a stronger Six Paths Chidori, yet Sasuke's normal sword (which he conveniently lost right before the Valley despite always having before and after) and lightning sword easily pierced & sliced him. He wanted to beat peak Naruto. That's why he never went for the kill until Naruto went all out, hence Indra's arrow. The battle began with Sasuke clashing arms with *base* Naruto. Whereas when *Juubi* Madara charged at him he immediately teleported his sword through his heart. Pretending SPSM Naruto has greater durability than Madara is already silly. Surely you're not going to pretend base Naruto does or that he's faster and would dodge even though he didn't in SPSM.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto Spsm Naruto obv has better durability than 1 Rinnegan Madara bro. And give me the chapter where "Juubi Madara wasn't even pierced by a stronger Six Paths Chidori" part.
Small note, don't forget that Obito was being drained by controlling Kurama so much that Minato thought he was rushing their fight because of it. If you're going to attribute fatigue to Minato, I think it's fair to mention that for Obito as well.
@@BestAtRoblox2024considering that tsunade can’t fully summon the slug(I forgor the name) and the fact that the summoning jutsu is stated to be incredibly chakra draining(part 1 naruto needing nine tails chakra) summoning the entire nine tails is actually insane
Biased lmao. There’s absolutely no proof Itachi can replicate her late war feats. I’m not saying I’m happy about her being stronger but there’s just no feats to say itachi could punch Kaguya or even take a limbo clone attack objectively
I would argue that Kakashi did not become an anbu captain at 13 due to him saying to feat Itachi because he became an anbu captain at 13, if this was something normal then there would be no concern or fear
@@crydevice thank you so much! Excited to get the next parts out 🙏🏼 If you like Kakashi, you’ll love this video: Kakashi is UNDERRATED! ruclips.net/video/iQ6WcRzzdWU/видео.html
@@Unknown1111-adg There are a couple misconceptions in what you’re saying. First, we don’t know the rank of the shinobi who Minato saved Kushina from. They could’ve been Chunin who specialized in enemy capture for all we know. Second, the Anbu stuff you’re referring to is anime-only filler, so it’s not canon. It’s also worth noting, though, that Kakashi beat a high level jonin at 9-10 years old during the events of Kannabi Bridge
@sageofthickcalves actually they would be jonins cause I don't think the village will send chunin for a mission to capture the jinchuriki of the 9 tails I means it's literally 9 tails
@sageofthickcalves and yeah let's reconsider a feats that Itachi without training killed a ninja at the age of 4 which is pure talent without any work and Itachi graduated from the accademy at shorter time than Kakashi also passed the chunin exam Keeping the record of the fastest to cross the forest of death that also by himself all alone and lets not forget that Itachi was kept waiting to apply for the chunin cause his friend wore not ready and he also joined the academy late cause of the war it's pure talent and Yeah Minato was told to learn tough sealing jutsu and even invent a jutsu at a day and even sage mode at a very short time so it's not arguable to say Kakashi wasn't as talented as them though he was a genius himself It's worth noting that Itachi at 9-10 was way better than any anbu which are regarded as some of the best jonin so...
I been waiting for someone to do this for anime I just didn’t think it would be related naruto. Which is still better since I think you just do it better to be honest
I get why so many characters were excluded but damn, the fact we don't know e.g. Madara's or Hashirama's ages and when they did what (same about many other characters) REALLY limits this list
Happy new years eve man! Also can hebi sasuke use kirin whenever he wants? I keep hearing people mention this in videos or some saying he can't, like lightning blade yesterday said if hebi sauske can use kirin whenever he can take down 5 paths of pain and it'd be 1-1 with the deva path. What you think of this?
Thanks brother! Happy new year to you as well. It’s kind of up in the air. I think it’s possible, but without heating up the atmosphere with the help of Amaterasu and the dragon flame jutsu, it would be significantly weaker than what we saw him pull off against Itachi.
@sageofthickcalves thanks man! And yea thays kinda whay they said in yesterday's video too though they said it'd be slightly weaker. So technically, he can use kirin whenever but it won't be that strong of an attack against strong opponents? Cause he used kirin in fight against naruto but that's cause there were already thunderclouds
I already knew Kakashi & Itachi would take the earlier ages rightful so😅. As well as a Naruto & Sasuke domination towards the end . Potentially you may could have snuck in a young Hashirama or Madara in the younger ages
Can you do a vid on the time period between the 5KS and War arc I’ve seen arguments saying it’s literally months and arguments saying it’s 3 days so I’m a bit confused
The problem is that we don’t have any real physical scaling points for him outside of speculation, which I try to avoid. But yeah, I have full power Shisui as relative to alive Itachi on my tier list
Love the videos bro, however even tho we don’t know exact details of hashirama and Madara during these times I’d take a 17 year old them over any version of Sakura Maybe a argument for the more modern gen like kakashi over them when they where young could be the advancement and refinement of teaching and developing skill that wasn’t as good for hashirama/Madara in those days
@ no they existed therefor by extension should be addressed better we don’t know the feats of a T. rex but based on what we know it would destroy almost any animal today at any age hashirama is beating Sakura cope And you don’t decide what’s meaningless it’s speculation it’s a fake show the entire thing can be changed any moment by kishi unlike your life
@@itachi-weasel when does this happen I’m not caught up on all of boruto did they really end up killing the entire story and knocking Naruto out the big 3 with a op Sakura ?
shisui was feared and had a flee on sight order for him like Minato but at a much younger age and it had to be for ability outside of his MS since he could not always use it during the war
Latest databook have Kakashi and Obito being the same age, also the manga panels of them at the chunin exams (Chapter 599) support that retcon. Kakashi was 12 when he became a jonin
The manga showing them in the exams does nothing to help your side. Itachi Shinden (came out after DB4) reinstated Kakashi as the youngest graduate ever, and Kakashi’s official birthday column (came out in September of last year) has him graduating at 5 and becoming a Chunin at 6. There’s no way that works unless they’re 4 years apart.
Dam I did not realize how crazy Kakashi was early on! Yeesh! At that trajectory he'd have been insane, yea Kamui is broken but he would have developed differently and seems like he would have been even more powerful!
Great video and lots of effort seemed to be put into it. Although it’s unfortunate we basically know the entire list is wrong since Hashirama and Madara were easily far stronger than Kakashi, Itachi, and Shisui at those younger ages. We know this since both of them were near the top of Senju/Uchiha clans in strength and had killed adults from the other clan at a very young age. Madara didn’t even have his sharingan yet and was one of the strongest Uchiha. But I get why you didn’t rank them since we weren’t given much info regarding their age at that time.
@@hero0686 yeah we just genuinely don’t know how old they are when those statements are made or exactly where they’d scale. It’s entirely possible that the peak Senju and Uchiha from that time would’ve been like Chunin level for Naruto’s era. We just don’t know.
No they’re not. The databook 4 entry is an error, much like several timeline issues in that databook. The higher canon material necessitates that they’re different ages. I have a video called Naruto Canon Explained that will help with this
People genuinely underestimate Sakura so much. Let me remind you that Naruto (SO6P) wasn't able to remotely damage Kaguya while she was off-guard from the Reverse Harem Jutsu. At the latter half of the fight against Kaguya, Sakura is able to feasibly damage a _stronger_ Kaguya (according to Black Zetsu) than the one Naruto punched, breaking her horn and knocking her down. With this in mind, you could genuinely say Sakura has higher punching power than anyone else in that fight. Also, the argument that Kaguya was off guard when Sakura punched her also doesn't work because, for one... She wasn't (has a Byakugan), and two, even if she was, Kaguya was also off guard when Naruto punched her due to the Reverse Harem Jutsu yet still took no damage.
@ Kaguya’s battle IQ has nothing to do with her speed and durability. Sakura being able to outrun her attacks and damage her with a punch puts her significantly above any of those three in speed and AP. Sure, the passive kamui would be an issue, but she genuinely should be able to perception blitz Minato and Itachi and just vaporize them with a punch. If you disagree, please show me the scaling that gets them to Kaguya + durability or Kaguya + speeds
This video just made me realise how crazy kishimoto glazes kakashi to the point its crazy. Bro being one of the strongest ninja in konoha at 9?!? Thats not consostent even to how strong kakashi was in og naruto. It gets crazy when he is much better than itachi at that age when itachi was no diffing orochimaru at 13 or something☠️
It feels weird until you break down his backstory. Check out this video for a more detailed breakdown ruclips.net/video/iQ6WcRzzdWU/видео.htmlsi=sET0eaznIeL0O2Pw
I know you're seeing a lot of this, but Kakashi's age and Obito is genuinely a plot hole in Naruto. It is stated that Kakashi took the chunin once exams at 6 and obito became a chunin at 11 yet it's also stated that he became a jonin at 12 (in Boruto Animation)?! We have seen that this anime is not the best in terms of lining up characters age with vague statementssuch as this one (like Naruto who failed the genin exams three times yet is the same age as someone like Sasuke!). And it is stated in the pedia and in the war as well that Obito and Kakashi are at the same age (31). Also, in the flashback fight vs Minato, I dont know if you've seen the anime fight but Obito's REAL voice is still the same voice he had when he was in the cave (not the voice of a 17 year old lol). Huge respect to your effort and your creativity, but I think there's just a misconception about this one and it kinda twists the rankings😅. Also we need to send Chris Hansen to Rin's crib if she tryna smash a boy 4 years younger than her at 12😂😂. Dope video tho
@@DtaSmoove the only part of it that’s a plot hole is the databook 4 statement saying they’re the same age. The boruto anime has Kakashi say to Boruto’s class “I was already a jonin by your age”, not that he BECAME a jonin at Boruto’s age. So he can still be a jonin at 9-10. When interpreting the series, especially when we see contradictions, we should make an effort to see how it works while maintaining the higher tiers of canon material, with the manga being number one. I have a whole video on this, and at the end I go over the Kakashi and Obito age thing in depth. Feel free to check it out: Naruto Canon - Naruto University ruclips.net/video/iUx17Aq0E4M/видео.html
@sageofthickcalves I understand your point and I already checked your video which was another banger btw! I am just saying that in these two contradictions, with the way the story goes on one side (them being the same age) makes WAYYY more sense than the other one (Kakashi being 4 years younger). The only sensical reason behind that is; once again, Kakashi becoming a chunin at 6. On the other hand, Obito considering Kakashi as a rival (which is like Naruto in part 1 considering Konohamaru as a rival lol) while we've never seen that type of comrade-rivalry between two teamates that are not the same age (Naruro-Sasuke, Lee-Neji, Jiraiya-Orochimaru), three teammates with one having such a huge gap has never been seen except for the sand siblings, I could go on and on of why there being such a huge age gap makes no sense. I personally think Kishimoto wanted to hype Kakahsi up and just forgot everything else that comes with such a statement. The story clearly implies that they are the same age but I think this is the same type of plot hole as Naruto being the same age as Sasuke but failing his exam three times; an exam that can only be taken once a year but we see them both playing in a playground before becoming genins and theres statements about them being the same age.
@ I mean the Naruto website birthday column that came out for Kakashi 3 months ago also reconfirms that he graduated at 5 and became a Chunin at 6. To suggest otherwise is to go against the vast majority of canon material
17:24 i think sakura’s the youngest amongst the Konoha rookies because Japanese school period starts from April to March, sakura being born in March should be the youngest amongst her class if they follow the system
@ Not really though Considering her only somewhat impressive feat of touching kaguya happens when 100% of her focus was on naruto and sasuke and BS was out of the picture It’s like a fly suddenly hit the back of my head and knocked me forward… There’s no way in hell I’m tryna dodge a fly and I’d be shocked if that happened Even in the novels she still struggles a bit against a pseudo jinchurriki in a v1 Jin cloak Something that obito, Itachi or minato stomps easily Don’t get me wrong there are avenues for power creep in boruto but it doesn’t apply to everyone with the same effects due to lack of feats and statements And kishimoto certainly didn’t intend on massively overpowering his characters simply by the passage of time to levels where they wouldn’t have otherwise reached Any other depiction is 100% disingenuous and cannot be proved
@ajayimoses2495 same novels that say Sakura got 8 gates level of speed in base form. Same Sakura who did more damage to an off guard moving full speed and exponentially stronger kaguya than 6 paths Naruto who also punched kaguya when she was off guard by sexy jutsu. She blatantly did more damage. Stop the downplay
@@ajayimoses2495 Sakura damages Kaguya after Kaguya recognizes she’s there and prior to that is able to dodge the ten tails arm coming out of Kaguya As far as the jinchuriki, he has no scaling outside of the Sakura fight so how can you say those guys can beat him? Where does he scale?
@@thatsaiyan9063 I mean, when he still has to use hand signs for FTG, I’d say he’s at a distinct disadvantage, but once he can do it without them I’d agree
We all know Hashirama and Madara would bully the Junior Divisions if the official Shinobi Rule didn´t apply. Probably could throw Tobirama and Izuna in there as well, although since they are basically featless except for being the lesser prodigies, Kid Kakashi would probably still rank above them.
@sageofthickcalves true! But considering how they were selected and sent on such an important mission tells me they at least would've been mid to high chunin level at worst.
Kakashi looks a lot older than 9 during the Óbito chunin flashbacks. It’s clearly just a retcon of the data book. The data book saying Kakashi was chunin at 6 did come out TEN YEARS before the flashback manga after all
@@sasukelownwolf the most recent canon material says Kakashi was a Chunin at 6. Naruto website official birthday columns have him graduating at 5 and becoming a Chunin at 6. So if you argue that was a retcon, the retcon has now been retconned
@ @ or and stay with me here, the more logical answer is, it was an intern just copying and pasting the old data into new material. You think it’s Kishimoto publishing these outside material?!! 😂 It’s just a real world company employee not GAF. We see the actual work 100% made by Kishi clearly show a much older than 6 Kakashi fighting with Óbito in the chunin exam
@ the same company that wrote the databooks with Kishimoto wrote the Naruto birthday columns. So it’s far more likely that the DB4 ages are wrong, much like the other glaring timeline issues in DB4. So, if you put stock in the DB4 ages, you should put stock in the birthday columns
@@sageofthickcalves I put stock in Naruto’s birthday being Oct 10. Even the laziest employee can get that right. But a data book clashing with the literal manga/anime material is common bc one is made by the Human writer, and the other by other humans in the real world, who aren’t the author. It’s just a company employee. Please look up Overwatch Kiriko age controversy. Kakashi was clearly not 6 in the manga. Or he was the most brolic 6 year old ever and somehow didn’t grow anymore for another 10 years. Use data book information but when it is directly opposed by the Literal manga/anime, it just has to be dismissed as real world corporate error
@ I don’t think you’re aware of what I’m referencing. There are official birthday articles for characters, one of which is over Sakumo. It says Kakashi graduated at 5 and became a Chunin at 6 about halfway through the article. The manga says this, the fanbooks say this, the databooks say this, and now the birthday articles say this. You’re using an outlier that’s contraindicated by pre and post information. Here’s the article: naruto-official.com/en/news/01_1875 Again, since the same people who write the databooks write these articles, if you think the databooks are authoritative, you’d have to agree these are as well. Btw, the Boruto manga points to the Naruto website articles as authoritative, so you’d be disagreeing with yourself and the Boruto manga by saying it’s not authoritative. Another note, how old people LOOK doesn’t determine how old they ARE, both in the real world and in manga. Kids who are 3 years apart don’t look that different. In the Naruto manga, Yagura is a great example of a character who doesn’t look their age. I’d be careful saying “x character doesn’t look y age, so they’re not”.
@@johnconnor8206 nah he would be about 18. He’s 4 years older than Kakashi because they graduate together and Kakashi is 5 when he graduates while Obito is 9. The thing that misleads people is a databook 4 error that has them as the same age in the war, but this was corrected in the Naruto website birthday profiles.
@sageofthickcalves true not many characters in naruto and boruto have a answer to kamui short range and long range not to mention they wouldn't have counter to it either.
Obito was 14 when he attacked Konoha, controlled Kurama, and was strong enough for Minato to consider that he was actually Madara. How on Earth does he not take the top spot here?! 😭😭
They were stated to be comparable in combat by multiple high ranking ninja. Itachi’s intellect was for sure higher than that of Shisui based off the novels which is why Itachi was chosen by the Leaf to carry out the task as he was reputed as strong as Fugaku and Shisui and this is without even having MS. They were still stronger but only because of the MS. Itachi was younger yet became the Uchiha’s most promising member for Hokage. Is it really a feat to constantly get compared by someone who is a few years younger than you? Shisui could barely take on Danzo while Itachi easily beat Orochimaru and made him legit fear him. Danzo admitted he wanted no smoke with Itachi.
Itachi was definitely just being humble bro 😂 shisui would get dog walked in a fight. Danzo never tried any of that shit on itachi for a reason bro 😂 he didn’t even act out until he heard the man finally died like cmon be real here
@@jayash2957 Why didn’t Shisui try to Genjutsu Danzo… Oh yeah he tried and failed miserably. Shisui had the strongest Genjutsu but they were comparable in Genjutsu overall. Itachi caught Orochimaru in a Genjutsu before the fight began. Itachi was younger and knew how to use the Sharingan much better. Even Shisui knew this which is why he died for Itachi. Itachi was known as one of the greatest prodigies from Uchiha stated by the Academy and even Fugaku himself. Shisui noted that Itachi was talented enough to surpass him one day and Danzo in the same novels noted that Itachi was a man seen once a century. Just because Itachi was sick and dog walked the whole show doesn’t discredit his own talent. Ao noted in the war that Itachi had Genjutsu prowess that could be controlled from miles away and was the only ninja capable of such.
@@rkvlegacy9206 Shisui genjustu scaling In the manga killer bee said shisui was the uchihas best genjutsu user after experiencing itachis and ms sasukes. Kurama compares hebi sasukes eyes to madara”eyes with such power and chakra more senister than my own just as uchiha madara was”(Naruto shippuden ep1) in the databook by ao who broke yagura free from obito genjutsu stated shisui to have the ultimate genjutsu.(volume 58 page 108 itachis says it in the manga as well) when ultimate is used this way(as a noun) it means “the best achievable or imaginable of its kind.” this should solidify shisui as the best genjutsu user ever in Shippudun outside of madara and sasuke when they have 6path sharingan genjutsu.
@@sageofthickcalves there was a time whenno one could control its chakra key word here is CHAKRA NOT the kyubi itself . Sealed in naruto ,meaning KCM ,cause even obito did that and itachi stills says shisuis genjutsu is the strongest so he knows wht he is saying and maybe fugaku could lightly so its unfair to say that itachi cannot .obito is controlling 6jinchurikis and at 14 kyubi ,i dont see why itachi wouldnt be able to considering he has powers beyond the mangyeko
@ this is the direct quote: “There was a time when it was possessed by Uchiha Madara's eye. However, right now, there is no one who can control its chakra.” To possess something can mean to hold it (possessing a valuable card) or to control it (demonic possession). In this context, it means to control because that’s what Madara did to the nine tails with his sharingan. So what you’re doing is attempting to divorce these two sentences when the first is clearly adding context to the second. We get a sentence telling us that Madara controlled the nine tails with his sharingan, followed by a sentence saying nobody alive can control the chakra of the nine tails. You’d have to give good reason as to why those are disconnected. Also, controlling the nine tails with the sharingan is controlling the chakra of the nine tails. Sharingan genjutsu works by taking control of your target’s chakra. So not only is that applicable here, the bijuu are also just stated to be entirely comprised of chakra, so controlling their chakra can mean controlling them. Btw, Obito was 18 during the kyuubi attack, not 14, and Fugaku could’ve just been wrong about controlling the bijuu because he got that information from the stone tablet that was tampered with.
@@sageofthickcalves Madara placed him under a genjutsu , there is a difference between genjutsu and controlling ones chakra and this has only been done by naruto and maybe himawari is that simple
@@sageofthickcalves he says onaji which means identical, equal, equivalent, alike, same. So their chakra quality Or chakra strength is the same. And that's why the fox recalls madara-Third databook.
@@DarkEye-re9zg you just listed “alike”, which just means similar, as one of the accepted translations of that word. He also assigns a quality of “vile” to it, so why is he not just saying the vile aspect of their chakra is what’s similar? Where are you getting power from?
@@sageofthickcalves Alike also means the same. They have the same chakra quality. Which is literally what makes sasuke stronger. It is linked to power because kurama says so himself. It's their eye power. But the third databook says the same. In sasukes section it talks about this incident, calling his power sinister (magamashii) the same thing kurama called his chakra.
@ so, not to be rude, but you’re using an appeal to definition fallacy. When multiple definitions work for the same word, and they’re valid, but one of them doesn’t match your conclusion, you can’t just claim that the definition that fits your conclusion is the right one. Kurama says that the “vile” nature of their chakra is alike. There’s no reference to it being tied to power, outside of the term “ocular powers”. Sasuke is literally using the sharingan and suppressing Kurama with it. That’s what Madara & Obito (disguised as Madara) did, but both of them did it on a much greater scale. So again, “ocular powers” can just be in reference to his use of the sharingan, as suppressing the bijuu is an ocular power of the sharingan. It does not not have to be in reference to the actual raw power Sasuke can output. The databook helps my argument. It’s referencing a separate quality of their chakra other than power. Another example of this is how Gyuuki’s chakra has a particular flavor. We know Naruto’s chakra is stated to be warm and comforting. Chakra has qualities outside of raw power, so the fact that the databooks and manga confirm that Kurama is talking about that type of quality helps me.
How Strong Is Anbu Kakashi:
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How Strong Is Anbu Itachi:
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How old was the other Senju and Uchia brothers
Kakuzu got age 91 on LOCK!
Aang got 112 on lock
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He’s got anything past like 77 on lock tbh
what about that old ass madara. i know he on life support but i'd rather fight kakuzu than a blind madara on life support
Nah, 91 year old Kurama>Kakuzu
Strongest fetus gotta be Hashirama
Fetus Hashirama Is Cracked , Those Cells Are Op.
i'm pretty sure hashirama was the strongest at every single age if you don't include otsutsuki, but yeah, it would be somewhat speculation
edit: after hashirams dies it's likely hiruzen for many years and then kakuzu for many years.
after kakuzu it's black zetsu for 2900 years.
Strongest of every age is hashirama. forget powerscaling, buddha with ten fucking million arms will slap anyone else into submission, including otsutsuki.
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Hashirama's fetus had Hashirama cells, wish you'd included him in the video.
Yeah we just have zero feats from him at any verifiable point in time until he’s around his late 30s-early 40s
Yo btw I’m in the process of reading through the DB manga and digging into the scaling, so if you’re interested in connecting on discord and getting a collab in sometime lmk 🫡 discord.gg/eSZM7qPC
Half way through the video and its just Kakashi , shisui and Itachi winning 😭
They are goats
I totally agree with the 14 year old obito part. He was a monster immediately with kamui and wood style.
Kakashi got so cooked by leading team 7. He just stopped getting stronger.
It’s implied he had stopped training and going on tough missions for like 4-5 years up to part 1, since he most likely got out of the Anbu at 21-22
@ The verse has a weird mechanic of developing character strength until age 16-20 with the exception of team 7. The main characters seem to have limitless potential despite being weak at early ages in comparison. Most people only seem to get stronger when fighting Naruto because now they are allowed to be that strong since Naruto is.
the leaf also changed the rules on graduation and other things so that no one could start as young as Kakashi, same way they added years to Itachi age so he could graduate and join anbu
That’s not technically true. They didn’t change when they could start, but after Itachi’s generation (still getting pushed through early because of war time), they couldn’t graduate until they were at least 11
@@sageofthickcalves I think he means Itachi age get changed by Leaf Village. Like when he become Anbu he was called 13 year old. But in reality he was 12 year old because Leaf added 1 year to his age so he can join Anbu or something like these
Never thought I'd see Hinata ranked higher than Obito and Minato 😅
That's how powerscaling be sometimes
Yamcha is somewhat relative to strong dragon ball characters and hence solos Naruto 💀
@@akhandtripathipyz9888does he tho
@@kashin1890 Nope.
@@kashin1890yes he does
@@owensilva9224 no lmao
This is really creative. Good stuff Sage
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it.
@6:25
Insane, imagine being on the varsity team in middle school, but your team captain is some ridiculously talented 4th grader. 😂
💀
15:43 they actually say Naruto turned 17 when Obito was standing on top of the Juubi, so he didn’t have BSM until he was 17
Even still bro had Kcm and sage mode he’d be straight 😂
What's BSM?
@ Bijuu Sage Mode
@@susear5939 bisexual male
W series looking forward for next parts
The GOAT never ceases to amaze with clever topics 🔥
Awesome video series idea. Can't wait to see the rest!
Thank you!
Just a suggestion: maybe show all of the placements on screen at the conclusion portion in a kind of tiermaker format.
You could even use the same graphic with the characters redacted for the thumbnail.
Yeah I decided towards the end that that would be a good idea, but didn’t wanna go back and change it 😅
Another banger 🙏🔥
Question, can you do a ranking based on speed, pre 6 paths characters? For example I have a good gauge on Minato and tobiramas speed but I have a hard time placing hashiramas speed for example in comparison or Madaras speed. Anyway great video as always !
W idea, I've recommended something similar for TG but would love to see it here as well. Something like speed brackets (who is KCM1 level, who is KCM2 level), what really puts somebody a "blitz tier above", etc
@cringewyrm bro yes exactly
For sure!
@@sageofthickcalves I love cringes idea seems like cooler and simpler way to do it. I appreciate it man I'll def check it out when it's ready
Might Gai gotta be the fastest no?
i like how u use ur sound effects, not much youtubers does it this well
Thank you!
This is an interesting one!
Thanks bro!
great vid idea
@@zachmartin6058 thank you! Part 2 coming soon
Love the video bro!! (Kakashi yet again locking in his spot as the GOAT) 😂
Thanks bro! 🙏🏼
this was fire fire 🔥🔥
Thanks bro! Always good to see your comments 🫡
@sageofthickcalves i appreciate the replies!!!
can you do a how strong would naruto be if he was trained by a different sanin?? and do it for all of team 7
@ bet
19:38 don't think i didn't notice the switch of sasuke being above naruto in the 20 yr old because of the "kakashi's strongest student" statement from the novelisation of the last. Your slick for that sage
Shouldn't need a statement to confirm the obvious. Sasuke can blitz him the same as before, where he would have immediately killed him if he sliced him in half with a lightning sword like Madara instead of smacking him with Chidori, but now he has Rinnegan mastery.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto Naruto tanked the chidori lol its not like Sasuke decided to not slice him in half.
@@muhammedgezer3915 He gasped in pain & theres a big difference between Chidori and a lightning sword. The latter is designed to slice. Juubi Madara wasn't even pierced by a stronger Six Paths Chidori, yet Sasuke's normal sword (which he conveniently lost right before the Valley despite always having before and after) and lightning sword easily pierced & sliced him.
He wanted to beat peak Naruto. That's why he never went for the kill until Naruto went all out, hence Indra's arrow. The battle began with Sasuke clashing arms with *base* Naruto. Whereas when *Juubi* Madara charged at him he immediately teleported his sword through his heart. Pretending SPSM Naruto has greater durability than Madara is already silly. Surely you're not going to pretend base Naruto does or that he's faster and would dodge even though he didn't in SPSM.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto Spsm Naruto obv has better durability than 1 Rinnegan Madara bro. And give me the chapter where "Juubi Madara wasn't even pierced by a stronger Six Paths Chidori" part.
W catch
Small note, don't forget that Obito was being drained by controlling Kurama so much that Minato thought he was rushing their fight because of it. If you're going to attribute fatigue to Minato, I think it's fair to mention that for Obito as well.
Huh? Obito just summoned it and gave the Ninetails killing intent and said F off.
@@BestAtRoblox2024considering that tsunade can’t fully summon the slug(I forgor the name) and the fact that the summoning jutsu is stated to be incredibly chakra draining(part 1 naruto needing nine tails chakra) summoning the entire nine tails is actually insane
Peoples reading comprehension really disappears when it comes to Obito huh
Sakura in the war arc is not stronger than Itachi lmao, is barely above Tsunade
Biased lmao. There’s absolutely no proof Itachi can replicate her late war feats. I’m not saying I’m happy about her being stronger but there’s just no feats to say itachi could punch Kaguya or even take a limbo clone attack objectively
I agree she’s a Amaterasu or a tsukiyomi victim
@@mooneater2948 I mean I think Itachi is a bad matchup for her because Sakura has no answer for tsukoyomi
@@mooneater2948 Punching kaguya (who is extraordinarily dumb) while she was distracted and doing zero damage is hardly a feat at all.
@@lightningblade9117 0 damage… bro what… did you even see the panel of her punch??
Very fun and original video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really cool concept i like it. Especially the "lets ignore boruto" part
Dude, your channel is underrated as hell! Subscribed
Thank you so much!
I would argue that Kakashi did not become an anbu captain at 13 due to him saying to feat Itachi because he became an anbu captain at 13, if this was something normal then there would be no concern or fear
subscribed. ready for part 2 & 3, what a fantastic video bro. (kakashi is lowkey the most talented natural ninja of them all)
@@crydevice thank you so much! Excited to get the next parts out 🙏🏼 If you like Kakashi, you’ll love this video: Kakashi is UNDERRATED!
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Actually Minato and Itachi are more taken I think cause Minato could defeat high level jonin at 10 and Itachi could defeat anbus at...
@@Unknown1111-adg There are a couple misconceptions in what you’re saying.
First, we don’t know the rank of the shinobi who Minato saved Kushina from. They could’ve been Chunin who specialized in enemy capture for all we know. Second, the Anbu stuff you’re referring to is anime-only filler, so it’s not canon.
It’s also worth noting, though, that Kakashi beat a high level jonin at 9-10 years old during the events of Kannabi Bridge
@sageofthickcalves actually they would be jonins cause I don't think the village will send chunin for a mission to capture the jinchuriki of the 9 tails I means it's literally 9 tails
@sageofthickcalves and yeah let's reconsider a feats that Itachi without training killed a ninja at the age of 4 which is pure talent without any work and Itachi graduated from the accademy at shorter time than Kakashi also passed the chunin exam Keeping the record of the fastest to cross the forest of death that also by himself all alone and lets not forget that Itachi was kept waiting to apply for the chunin cause his friend wore not ready and he also joined the academy late cause of the war it's pure talent and Yeah Minato was told to learn tough sealing jutsu and even invent a jutsu at a day and even sage mode at a very short time so it's not arguable to say Kakashi wasn't as talented as them though he was a genius himself
It's worth noting that Itachi at 9-10 was way better than any anbu which are regarded as some of the best jonin so...
I been waiting for someone to do this for anime I just didn’t think it would be related naruto. Which is still better since I think you just do it better to be honest
@@anime_world6684 thank you!
Bro, are you going to make a vid about the geopolitics between the five great nations?
it would be amazing.
Edit: grammatical error.
@@ADM.II. yeah for sure!
@@sageofthickcalves
Nice.
Cool video idea
Glad you enjoyed it!
I get why so many characters were excluded but damn, the fact we don't know e.g. Madara's or Hashirama's ages and when they did what (same about many other characters) REALLY limits this list
They’ll have some entries in the next part 🫡
Happy new years eve man! Also can hebi sasuke use kirin whenever he wants? I keep hearing people mention this in videos or some saying he can't, like lightning blade yesterday said if hebi sauske can use kirin whenever he can take down 5 paths of pain and it'd be 1-1 with the deva path.
What you think of this?
Thanks brother! Happy new year to you as well.
It’s kind of up in the air. I think it’s possible, but without heating up the atmosphere with the help of Amaterasu and the dragon flame jutsu, it would be significantly weaker than what we saw him pull off against Itachi.
@sageofthickcalves thanks man! And yea thays kinda whay they said in yesterday's video too though they said it'd be slightly weaker.
So technically, he can use kirin whenever but it won't be that strong of an attack against strong opponents?
Cause he used kirin in fight against naruto but that's cause there were already thunderclouds
@ yeah exactly
Damn im too early to just watch all parts of the age ranking. How long do i have to wait for part 2? 😭
@@NTTofMistery coming out in a couple days 🫡
I wish is was this strong and dedicated when I was 12,would’ve changed my life
I already knew Kakashi & Itachi would take the earlier ages rightful so😅. As well as a Naruto & Sasuke domination towards the end .
Potentially you may could have snuck in a young Hashirama or Madara in the younger ages
Can you do a vid on the time period between the 5KS and War arc I’ve seen arguments saying it’s literally months and arguments saying it’s 3 days so I’m a bit confused
Yeah I’ll do a short on it. The scan of Ay convening the shinobi alliance 3 days after the 5KS is in the vid tho
@@sageofthickcalves Please do, it would clear a lot of misconceptions.
You guys dont get how powerful Shisui is. Until his death he is basically Itachi, just faster and better at genjutsu.
The problem is that we don’t have any real physical scaling points for him outside of speculation, which I try to avoid. But yeah, I have full power Shisui as relative to alive Itachi on my tier list
Love the videos bro, however even tho we don’t know exact details of hashirama and Madara during these times I’d take a 17 year old them over any version of Sakura
Maybe a argument for the more modern gen like kakashi over them when they where young could be the advancement and refinement of teaching and developing skill that wasn’t as good for hashirama/Madara in those days
There's no feats for them so what you say is meaningless
@ no they existed therefor by extension should be addressed better we don’t know the feats of a T. rex but based on what we know it would destroy almost any animal today at any age hashirama is beating Sakura cope
And you don’t decide what’s meaningless it’s speculation it’s a fake show the entire thing can be changed any moment by kishi unlike your life
@@Eagle20mids wrong
@@Eagle20mids no version of madara or hashirama is stronger than 17 years old sakura so not sure what you are on about
@@itachi-weasel when does this happen I’m not caught up on all of boruto did they really end up killing the entire story and knocking Naruto out the big 3 with a op Sakura ?
Itachi is goated for this part
But Kakashi is gonna get more chances to be in the next part but not him 💀
Kurama over 500 years💀
Only 12 views after 2 mins. Bro YOU FELL OFF HARD.
shisui was feared and had a flee on sight order for him like Minato but at a much younger age and it had to be for ability outside of his MS since he could not always use it during the war
That’s anime only filler
@@sageofthickcalves Says Sage, as he consistently uses novel content.
@@Sasukeis6-0againstNaruto the novels I use are canon, as they’re placed on the same timeline with the manga
Basta never even being part of the conversation is a wild take
@@miterpower Basta?
Just wondering where Nagato would place.
He overpowered Hanzo the Salamander when he was like 15-16
@@OrakBarama8D I think most estimates put him around 17, but he’d be just outside the top 5. Team 7, Itachi, Minato, Obito, Nagato
@ ahh that’s fair
Was this going by age in the order of the generations? Or by age across all the generations?
Everything except Boruto-exclusive characters and Otsusuki
@ I see
Kakashi is insane 🤯
@@eaether the GOAT!
Latest databook have Kakashi and Obito being the same age, also the manga panels of them at the chunin exams (Chapter 599) support that retcon. Kakashi was 12 when he became a jonin
The manga showing them in the exams does nothing to help your side. Itachi Shinden (came out after DB4) reinstated Kakashi as the youngest graduate ever, and Kakashi’s official birthday column (came out in September of last year) has him graduating at 5 and becoming a Chunin at 6. There’s no way that works unless they’re 4 years apart.
@except it does and they’re clearly the same age in the chunnin exams.
The Itachi novel is less canon than the data books and the Manga.
@ 1: Your opinion on how old someone looks doesn’t determine how old they are
2: Prove that
Dam I did not realize how crazy Kakashi was early on! Yeesh! At that trajectory he'd have been insane, yea Kamui is broken but he would have developed differently and seems like he would have been even more powerful!
5 year old gaara can easily kill 5 year old kakashi 3:11
gaara wasn't a shinobi though he was just unstable
@@jinhuigoh-lm4pm refer to stipulations
Man, imagine Haku survived. "Haku, solo the Sound Four while we grab Sasuke."
Great video and lots of effort seemed to be put into it. Although it’s unfortunate we basically know the entire list is wrong since Hashirama and Madara were easily far stronger than Kakashi, Itachi, and Shisui at those younger ages. We know this since both of them were near the top of Senju/Uchiha clans in strength and had killed adults from the other clan at a very young age. Madara didn’t even have his sharingan yet and was one of the strongest Uchiha.
But I get why you didn’t rank them since we weren’t given much info regarding their age at that time.
@@hero0686 yeah we just genuinely don’t know how old they are when those statements are made or exactly where they’d scale. It’s entirely possible that the peak Senju and Uchiha from that time would’ve been like Chunin level for Naruto’s era. We just don’t know.
Obito and kakashi were of same age
No they’re not. The databook 4 entry is an error, much like several timeline issues in that databook. The higher canon material necessitates that they’re different ages. I have a video called Naruto Canon Explained that will help with this
@@sageofthickcalves where is your proof 🤦♂️
@@LilXancheX I go over this at 18:20 of this video:
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@@LilXancheXlogic first of all 😂 obito was weak at first no way he would’ve graduated as early as kakashi
People genuinely underestimate Sakura so much. Let me remind you that Naruto (SO6P) wasn't able to remotely damage Kaguya while she was off-guard from the Reverse Harem Jutsu.
At the latter half of the fight against Kaguya, Sakura is able to feasibly damage a _stronger_ Kaguya (according to Black Zetsu) than the one Naruto punched, breaking her horn and knocking her down.
With this in mind, you could genuinely say Sakura has higher punching power than anyone else in that fight. Also, the argument that Kaguya was off guard when Sakura punched her also doesn't work because, for one... She wasn't (has a Byakugan), and two, even if she was, Kaguya was also off guard when Naruto punched her due to the Reverse Harem Jutsu yet still took no damage.
@@starslight-x3o w
Sakura cannot beat Itachi, Minato, Obito if she cannot land that punch! Let's not forget Kaguya is not a shinobi and had almost zero battle IQ.
@ Kaguya’s battle IQ has nothing to do with her speed and durability. Sakura being able to outrun her attacks and damage her with a punch puts her significantly above any of those three in speed and AP. Sure, the passive kamui would be an issue, but she genuinely should be able to perception blitz Minato and Itachi and just vaporize them with a punch. If you disagree, please show me the scaling that gets them to Kaguya + durability or Kaguya + speeds
Love seeing TL Hinata getting her flowers
Didn’t 7 year old Shisui unlock Mangekyo?
@@jms7265 we don’t know his exact age, but it’s probably closer to 8-9 years old
Shisui awakened the Mangekyo at 7 years old, so I’ll would’ve put him as the strongest at that age
@@brandonmbemba we don’t know what age he awoke it, but a safe guess is around 8-9
“Adult Sakura and hinata will be considered”
Naruto/sasuke: ok so?
💀
i think you're overestimating sakura by putting her above obito, she literally has no counter to him
This is about scaling. She massively outscales him, even though his hax provides a hard counter to her move set
@@sageofthickcalvescan she solo?
@@TheBantuIsraelite beats any of them except maybe Obito because of passive kamui
@@sageofthickcalves won't she just blitz obito before the kamui activation
@ kamui is passive, so it’s always going unless he decides to shut it off
5 year old Itachi had just experienced War not too long before.
@@jms7265 he wasn’t a shinobi
This video just made me realise how crazy kishimoto glazes kakashi to the point its crazy. Bro being one of the strongest ninja in konoha at 9?!? Thats not consostent even to how strong kakashi was in og naruto. It gets crazy when he is much better than itachi at that age when itachi was no diffing orochimaru at 13 or something☠️
It feels weird until you break down his backstory. Check out this video for a more detailed breakdown ruclips.net/video/iQ6WcRzzdWU/видео.htmlsi=sET0eaznIeL0O2Pw
Pre-Sharingan Kakashi being one of Konoha's finest in the time of activity of the guys like Minato, Fugaku and the Sannin is indeed mind-blowing.
If you include summons Naruto should of been an competitor when he learned to summon gamabunta
Yeah if Gamabunta actually listened to him
@@sageofthickcalves he’s part of his kit and he will protect Naruto in a fight but I see where your coming from
@@johnconnor8206 to be fair, Gamabunta actively refuses to help Naruto against Shukaku until Gamakichi convinces him to
Wait are you sure kakashi and obito graduate the same year? I’ve never heard/seen that stated.
Yeah they’re added to Team Minato together and take the Chunin exams together when Kakashi is 6
Yessir 🔥💯
Any word on where nagato fits into all this?
I’ll talk about that in the next one 🫡
Man at the age of 9 use the 5 elements
@ where are you getting the age 9 from?
He was like 15 when the hanzo incident happened which depending on how you see it puts him pretty high up
@ he was probably closer to 17, but yeah that would put him at like 6th place behind Team 7, Minato, and Obito
What is end of serie Sakura going to do to young Obito who fought Minato?
Demolish him lol
Probably nothing because of his hax, but she massively outscales him
I know you're seeing a lot of this, but Kakashi's age and Obito is genuinely a plot hole in Naruto. It is stated that Kakashi took the chunin once exams at 6 and obito became a chunin at 11 yet it's also stated that he became a jonin at 12 (in Boruto Animation)?! We have seen that this anime is not the best in terms of lining up characters age with vague statementssuch as this one (like Naruto who failed the genin exams three times yet is the same age as someone like Sasuke!). And it is stated in the pedia and in the war as well that Obito and Kakashi are at the same age (31). Also, in the flashback fight vs Minato, I dont know if you've seen the anime fight but Obito's REAL voice is still the same voice he had when he was in the cave (not the voice of a 17 year old lol). Huge respect to your effort and your creativity, but I think there's just a misconception about this one and it kinda twists the rankings😅. Also we need to send Chris Hansen to Rin's crib if she tryna smash a boy 4 years younger than her at 12😂😂. Dope video tho
@@DtaSmoove the only part of it that’s a plot hole is the databook 4 statement saying they’re the same age. The boruto anime has Kakashi say to Boruto’s class “I was already a jonin by your age”, not that he BECAME a jonin at Boruto’s age. So he can still be a jonin at 9-10.
When interpreting the series, especially when we see contradictions, we should make an effort to see how it works while maintaining the higher tiers of canon material, with the manga being number one. I have a whole video on this, and at the end I go over the Kakashi and Obito age thing in depth. Feel free to check it out: Naruto Canon - Naruto University
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@sageofthickcalves I understand your point and I already checked your video which was another banger btw!
I am just saying that in these two contradictions, with the way the story goes on one side (them being the same age) makes WAYYY more sense than the other one (Kakashi being 4 years younger). The only sensical reason behind that is; once again, Kakashi becoming a chunin at 6. On the other hand, Obito considering Kakashi as a rival (which is like Naruto in part 1 considering Konohamaru as a rival lol) while we've never seen that type of comrade-rivalry between two teamates that are not the same age (Naruro-Sasuke, Lee-Neji, Jiraiya-Orochimaru), three teammates with one having such a huge gap has never been seen except for the sand siblings, I could go on and on of why there being such a huge age gap makes no sense. I personally think Kishimoto wanted to hype Kakahsi up and just forgot everything else that comes with such a statement. The story clearly implies that they are the same age but I think this is the same type of plot hole as Naruto being the same age as Sasuke but failing his exam three times; an exam that can only be taken once a year but we see them both playing in a playground before becoming genins and theres statements about them being the same age.
@ I mean the Naruto website birthday column that came out for Kakashi 3 months ago also reconfirms that he graduated at 5 and became a Chunin at 6. To suggest otherwise is to go against the vast majority of canon material
17:24 i think sakura’s the youngest amongst the Konoha rookies because Japanese school period starts from April to March, sakura being born in March should be the youngest amongst her class if they follow the system
@@aesthenju she’s older than Naruto and Sasuke
Obito, minato and itachi definitely remain above sakura massively till about boruto…
Where is still have arguments for them
She massively outscales them all by the end of the Kaguya fight, unfortunately
@
Not really though
Considering her only somewhat impressive feat of touching kaguya happens when 100% of her focus was on naruto and sasuke and BS was out of the picture
It’s like a fly suddenly hit the back of my head and knocked me forward…
There’s no way in hell I’m tryna dodge a fly and I’d be shocked if that happened
Even in the novels she still struggles a bit against a pseudo jinchurriki in a v1 Jin cloak
Something that obito, Itachi or minato stomps easily
Don’t get me wrong there are avenues for power creep in boruto but it doesn’t apply to everyone with the same effects due to lack of feats and statements
And kishimoto certainly didn’t intend on massively overpowering his characters simply by the passage of time to levels where they wouldn’t have otherwise reached
Any other depiction is 100% disingenuous and cannot be proved
@ajayimoses2495 same novels that say Sakura got 8 gates level of speed in base form.
Same Sakura who did more damage to an off guard moving full speed and exponentially stronger kaguya than 6 paths Naruto who also punched kaguya when she was off guard by sexy jutsu. She blatantly did more damage.
Stop the downplay
@@ajayimoses2495 Sakura damages Kaguya after Kaguya recognizes she’s there and prior to that is able to dodge the ten tails arm coming out of Kaguya
As far as the jinchuriki, he has no scaling outside of the Sakura fight so how can you say those guys can beat him? Where does he scale?
SHISUI got 7 easily though he already had MS
Then from then on till 11 where it’s itachi
For the fact that u said Naruto and Sasuke are gonna take a lot of these spots I gotta say Itachi shisui and especially kakashi do take A LOT
Just wait until we get to the next video 💀
@sageofthickcalves oh I can imagine
Just found it funny that in this particular Video it's actually other characters dominating for the most part
no way you said that a teenage minato is beating a member of the sannin. even if orochimaru can’t use his arms.
Itachi above Minato at any point is INSANE work.
We have zero feats from 12 year old Minato that put him anywhere near Sannin + level lol
@sageofthickcalves Now that I look at it, I can understand that, but from the moment he got Rasengan and FTG, Itachi is a non-issue.
@@thatsaiyan9063 I mean, when he still has to use hand signs for FTG, I’d say he’s at a distinct disadvantage, but once he can do it without them I’d agree
You overrated mianto. Itachi, obito and mianto has never been far of in power
HEAT
If we had confirmed ages for hashirama and madara then this would be different
For sure
Itachi holds 12 year old no contest
We all know Hashirama and Madara would bully the Junior Divisions if the official Shinobi Rule didn´t apply. Probably could throw Tobirama and Izuna in there as well, although since they are basically featless except for being the lesser prodigies, Kid Kakashi would probably still rank above them.
I don't think kids Kakashi is quite as strong as others do. With so many dying shinobi, what would pass for chunnin or jonin probably got lower.
Minato should've at least cracked top 3 for the age 10 category. Beating up several Cloud Jonin all by himself and saving Kushina in the process.
We don’t know the rank of those shinobi
@sageofthickcalves true! But considering how they were selected and sent on such an important mission tells me they at least would've been mid to high chunin level at worst.
@ yeah I think they could’ve been Anbu, and we know some Anbu are genin level combatants
no way war arc sakura is over minato and itachi lmao
Massively out scales them
Shisui is probably is strongest each age until hew died
Kakashi looks a lot older than 9 during the Óbito chunin flashbacks. It’s clearly just a retcon of the data book. The data book saying Kakashi was chunin at 6 did come out TEN YEARS before the flashback manga after all
@@sasukelownwolf the most recent canon material says Kakashi was a Chunin at 6. Naruto website official birthday columns have him graduating at 5 and becoming a Chunin at 6. So if you argue that was a retcon, the retcon has now been retconned
@ @ or and stay with me here, the more logical answer is, it was an intern just copying and pasting the old data into new material. You think it’s Kishimoto publishing these outside material?!! 😂 It’s just a real world company employee not GAF. We see the actual work 100% made by Kishi clearly show a much older than 6 Kakashi fighting with Óbito in the chunin exam
@ the same company that wrote the databooks with Kishimoto wrote the Naruto birthday columns. So it’s far more likely that the DB4 ages are wrong, much like the other glaring timeline issues in DB4. So, if you put stock in the DB4 ages, you should put stock in the birthday columns
@@sageofthickcalves I put stock in Naruto’s birthday being Oct 10. Even the laziest employee can get that right. But a data book clashing with the literal manga/anime material is common bc one is made by the Human writer, and the other by other humans in the real world, who aren’t the author. It’s just a company employee. Please look up Overwatch Kiriko age controversy. Kakashi was clearly not 6 in the manga. Or he was the most brolic 6 year old ever and somehow didn’t grow anymore for another 10 years. Use data book information but when it is directly opposed by the Literal manga/anime, it just has to be dismissed as real world corporate error
@ I don’t think you’re aware of what I’m referencing. There are official birthday articles for characters, one of which is over Sakumo. It says Kakashi graduated at 5 and became a Chunin at 6 about halfway through the article. The manga says this, the fanbooks say this, the databooks say this, and now the birthday articles say this. You’re using an outlier that’s contraindicated by pre and post information. Here’s the article:
naruto-official.com/en/news/01_1875
Again, since the same people who write the databooks write these articles, if you think the databooks are authoritative, you’d have to agree these are as well. Btw, the Boruto manga points to the Naruto website articles as authoritative, so you’d be disagreeing with yourself and the Boruto manga by saying it’s not authoritative.
Another note, how old people LOOK doesn’t determine how old they ARE, both in the real world and in manga. Kids who are 3 years apart don’t look that different. In the Naruto manga, Yagura is a great example of a character who doesn’t look their age. I’d be careful saying “x character doesn’t look y age, so they’re not”.
What age did itachi get sick? Felt like he didnt get much stronger since he was 14
@@gulletali8418 it’s never clarified, but we know he was taking medication for it for multiple years
Kakashi really was Gojo
Shouldn’t Obito of been in here earlier wasn’t he still a young teen during the nine tails attack
@@johnconnor8206 nah he would be about 18. He’s 4 years older than Kakashi because they graduate together and Kakashi is 5 when he graduates while Obito is 9. The thing that misleads people is a databook 4 error that has them as the same age in the war, but this was corrected in the Naruto website birthday profiles.
you're arguing war arc sakura could beat post kyubi attack obito...... thats a little insane. you're krispe kreme glazing right now
No, I’m arguing she massively outscales him. His hax should allow for him to win
@sageofthickcalves true not many characters in naruto and boruto have a answer to kamui short range and long range not to mention they wouldn't have counter to it either.
@@KristopherDorsey-rq8ek you can blitz kamui. Many people have answers to the kamui
Rank the jinchurikis not just based on chakra amount.
Bet
Its obviously Sakura for all ages
GET OUUUT
Obito was 14 when he attacked Konoha, controlled Kurama, and was strong enough for Minato to consider that he was actually Madara. How on Earth does he not take the top spot here?! 😭😭
He’s not 14 at that time
At no point while Shisui was alive was Itachi stronger than him ,Itachi even admitted inferiority
They were stated to be comparable in combat by multiple high ranking ninja. Itachi’s intellect was for sure higher than that of Shisui based off the novels which is why Itachi was chosen by the Leaf to carry out the task as he was reputed as strong as Fugaku and Shisui and this is without even having MS. They were still stronger but only because of the MS. Itachi was younger yet became the Uchiha’s most promising member for Hokage. Is it really a feat to constantly get compared by someone who is a few years younger than you? Shisui could barely take on Danzo while Itachi easily beat Orochimaru and made him legit fear him. Danzo admitted he wanted no smoke with Itachi.
Itachi was definitely just being humble bro 😂 shisui would get dog walked in a fight. Danzo never tried any of that shit on itachi for a reason bro 😂 he didn’t even act out until he heard the man finally died like cmon be real here
@@rkvlegacy9206 itachi used genjutsu to beat orochimaru
shisui has stronger genjutsu than itachi
Danzo isnt above shisui
@@jayash2957 Why didn’t Shisui try to Genjutsu Danzo… Oh yeah he tried and failed miserably. Shisui had the strongest Genjutsu but they were comparable in Genjutsu overall. Itachi caught Orochimaru in a Genjutsu before the fight began. Itachi was younger and knew how to use the Sharingan much better. Even Shisui knew this which is why he died for Itachi. Itachi was known as one of the greatest prodigies from Uchiha stated by the Academy and even Fugaku himself. Shisui noted that Itachi was talented enough to surpass him one day and Danzo in the same novels noted that Itachi was a man seen once a century. Just because Itachi was sick and dog walked the whole show doesn’t discredit his own talent. Ao noted in the war that Itachi had Genjutsu prowess that could be controlled from miles away and was the only ninja capable of such.
@@rkvlegacy9206 Shisui genjustu scaling
In the manga killer bee said shisui was the uchihas best genjutsu user after experiencing itachis and ms sasukes.
Kurama compares hebi sasukes eyes to madara”eyes with such power and chakra more senister than my own just as uchiha madara was”(Naruto shippuden ep1)
in the databook by ao who broke yagura free from obito genjutsu stated shisui to have the ultimate genjutsu.(volume 58 page 108 itachis says it in the manga as well)
when ultimate is used this way(as a noun) it means “the best achievable or imaginable of its kind.”
this should solidify shisui as the best genjutsu user ever in Shippudun
outside of madara and sasuke when they have 6path sharingan genjutsu.
what’s yr evidence for obito being 18 during the 9 tails attack? i believe it was heavily agreed he was bwteen 13-16
I went over it in the video, but he’s 4 years older than Kakashi and Kakashi was 14 at that time
Sharingan really nerfed kakashi
For 10/13 years, maybe.
Itachi>Sakura at war arc
Show me the scaling that would allow Itachi to react to and damage Kaguya
Just curious…what does 12 year old tachi/shisui/orochimaru do when naruto summons bunta aside of shitting their pants?
@@flindy9848 they kill him before he has a chance, but Itachi straight up hits Gamabunta with Amaterasu and kills him lmao
Broo i would accept everything but Minato and Obbito at 17-24 will be way stronger than Hinata and sakura 🙂
Yeah the problem is the power-cliffing. Sakura and Hinata are six paths level characters
Wait what about 15 year old Nagato?
Gedo Mazo + Rinnegan is no easy feat to surpass
@@xhale671 he’s 17 there
at 18:18 it is not said itachi cant control the nine tails. it is said its chakra rather referring to KCM
It’s specifically referring to how Madara controlled the chakra of the nine tails, so it’s in reference to genjutsu most likely
@@sageofthickcalves there was a time whenno one could control its chakra key word here is CHAKRA NOT the kyubi itself . Sealed in naruto ,meaning KCM ,cause even obito did that and itachi stills says shisuis genjutsu is the strongest so he knows wht he is saying and maybe fugaku could lightly so its unfair to say that itachi cannot .obito is controlling 6jinchurikis and at 14 kyubi ,i dont see why itachi wouldnt be able to considering he has powers beyond the mangyeko
@ this is the direct quote: “There was a time when it was possessed by Uchiha Madara's eye. However, right now, there is no one who can control its chakra.” To possess something can mean to hold it (possessing a valuable card) or to control it (demonic possession). In this context, it means to control because that’s what Madara did to the nine tails with his sharingan. So what you’re doing is attempting to divorce these two sentences when the first is clearly adding context to the second. We get a sentence telling us that Madara controlled the nine tails with his sharingan, followed by a sentence saying nobody alive can control the chakra of the nine tails. You’d have to give good reason as to why those are disconnected. Also, controlling the nine tails with the sharingan is controlling the chakra of the nine tails. Sharingan genjutsu works by taking control of your target’s chakra. So not only is that applicable here, the bijuu are also just stated to be entirely comprised of chakra, so controlling their chakra can mean controlling them.
Btw, Obito was 18 during the kyuubi attack, not 14, and Fugaku could’ve just been wrong about controlling the bijuu because he got that information from the stone tablet that was tampered with.
@@sageofthickcalves Madara placed him under a genjutsu , there is a difference between genjutsu and controlling ones chakra and this has only been done by naruto and maybe himawari is that simple
@ genjutsu is described as taking control of a target’s chakra
Bos sasuke as kurama says is as strong as ym obito. That sasuke admits he cant beat part 1 itachi.
So part 1 itachi>ym obito.
That’s not what he says. He just says his vile chakra and ocular powers remind him of Madara. Never implies or claims they’re equals
@@sageofthickcalves he says onaji which means identical, equal, equivalent, alike, same. So their chakra quality Or chakra strength is the same.
And that's why the fox recalls madara-Third databook.
@@DarkEye-re9zg you just listed “alike”, which just means similar, as one of the accepted translations of that word. He also assigns a quality of “vile” to it, so why is he not just saying the vile aspect of their chakra is what’s similar? Where are you getting power from?
@@sageofthickcalves Alike also means the same. They have the same chakra quality. Which is literally what makes sasuke stronger.
It is linked to power because kurama says so himself. It's their eye power. But the third databook says the same. In sasukes section it talks about this incident, calling his power sinister (magamashii) the same thing kurama called his chakra.
@ so, not to be rude, but you’re using an appeal to definition fallacy. When multiple definitions work for the same word, and they’re valid, but one of them doesn’t match your conclusion, you can’t just claim that the definition that fits your conclusion is the right one. Kurama says that the “vile” nature of their chakra is alike. There’s no reference to it being tied to power, outside of the term “ocular powers”. Sasuke is literally using the sharingan and suppressing Kurama with it. That’s what Madara & Obito (disguised as Madara) did, but both of them did it on a much greater scale. So again, “ocular powers” can just be in reference to his use of the sharingan, as suppressing the bijuu is an ocular power of the sharingan. It does not not have to be in reference to the actual raw power Sasuke can output.
The databook helps my argument. It’s referencing a separate quality of their chakra other than power. Another example of this is how Gyuuki’s chakra has a particular flavor. We know Naruto’s chakra is stated to be warm and comforting. Chakra has qualities outside of raw power, so the fact that the databooks and manga confirm that Kurama is talking about that type of quality helps me.