HONEST REVIEWS | RFACTOR 2 | THE KING OF AI RACING!!!
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
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My favourite sim for offline racing finally gets an Honest Review from me. RF2 has a special place in my heart for its out of this world AI, that no other sim can match its performance. (Once you have it tweaked correctly for the car and track of course) 
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Thanks for the review. Certainly tempts me to purchase RF2. I do have Le Mans Ultimate and yes the AI was a big surprise. Quite amazing. That and the driving experience is so natural. Also noticed the flat spot vibration after a spin. That game really raises the bar for the others that I have experience with: ACC, AMS2, RaceRoom. I hope the funding doesn't dry up. IMHO everyone that can afford it should fork out the price and support this group that is responsible for such high level software.
Hi Rob, Glad you liked my review! Always great to be winning the minds of people who love a fully honest review. I haven't tried Le mans ultimate yet myself, but hopefully when it gets fully released there will be an honest review on that to
I have tried them all, and i will say that I'm obsessed with RF2. Visually there are better (ACC, AC, AMS2) but the driving satisfaction I get from this sim is second to none.
100% agree. The handling is another reason why I keep coming back to RF2. I think it definitely deserves the title of most advanced sim
Got this game early 2023. Haven't touched any other sim since, it's just too good. I think graphics looks pretty good, the amazing artstyle makes up for the lack of graphical fidelity compared to more modern sims imo. But yea, you don't get the game for eye candy.
@@Skumtomten1 100% Agree. Just because something isn't graphically good looking, doesn't necessarily mean it's a crap game
I finally have a very full set up and also finally I have everything working and performing well. I'm now going through all the cars that came with the sim and configuring the four wheels I have with each different car. I'm setting up a profile for each car in the game and on my Simucube 2Pro I'm having obscene amounts of fun learning how to work with the different types of car, that is how to set and and drive them whilst adjusting steering ranges and FF settings etc.
Have to say I am blown away with pretty much everything to do with the physics, I am a very experienced driver with some real racing experience, and even in test practicing I am having and also observing some amazing experience with the AI too, sometimes I wonder if the AI is not AI at all but real intelligence :) , and yes they don't quit do they?
Great minds think alike! It's always great to meet someone who has the same beliefs I have about RF2.
And yes you're right as well that once you have them with a good car and track. They will never back down as I have shown in my video.
Another great review! I enjoy your insight on rF2. Maybe one day you help me figure out out .
I'm happy to help Eric. Just hit me up and I will help
Great refreshing honest simracers review!
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Glad you enjoyed Eric. Always great to be winning the minds of fellow home simracers like you and me ☺️
I find RFactor 2 game is very good and I use VR with this game. I have most the tracks for offline racing with AI - Nascar series, Indycar series. I now found the 7 tracks similar to what is in the new LMU game - few are done by RF2 the others done by modders which all are pretty good for my driving.
I agree with everything you say in your video about RF2.
Lastly, unless the new LMU game adds allot more tracks, I will not get this game for just 7 tracks. I am not a big fan to do online races, don't have the time anymore. And LMU, I think, will not provide modding capabilities like RFactor 2 game does.
Thanks for the video and take care.
Hey @darthyr1 glad I was able to win you over with my review. I haven't tried LMU yet. But I saw Basic Ollie's Livestream of it. And looking at it so far, it looks like a copy and paste of RF2 only with Hypercars.
But I am looking forward to giving it an honest review once it is fully released and no longer in Early Access
just think like that, some people dont want to or cant or are not able to get everything set up for themselves. so its really nice from them to make LMU le man ultimate so people can just download and play without the hassle to set everything up.
@@lmfixit in fairness I can see where your coming from there, and I get it, not everyone wants to go through all the tweaking and tinkering with the game just to get it right.
And speaking of which, I got to finally try out LMU and currently planning on doing a video for it
Thank you, it's improved, but still in rfactor 2 when the car behind touches the back of my car I spin immediately, just a light touch for the car to spin, is there any way to improve that too?
Turn down the AI aggression, turn off limiter and reduce AI grip in the PLR file
Man. You can't say the bad things motorsport games do with the 24 Hours of Lemans when you know that iracing has the same policy with 12 Sebring, 24 Hours of Nürburgring and most simracing events. Good video I like that rfactor 2 you like it again
Thanks alkallata, I'm glad you appreciate the video.
With all due respect. I wasn't trying to be too negative with my review. I was trying to make an observation in regards to motorsports games and the financial situation going on over there. Because I'm concerned about the future of one of my favourite Sim for AI racing, RF2
no one knows how evil iracing rly is we need someone tolook behind the curtain i believe iracing is doing whatever they can to destroy other sims
iracing was always bad and ive been driving it on and off since 2013 always just purchase 1 month to oook if it is better but its still bad physics and tyre model wise. u dont drive the car u drive the simulation
Last week I was hovering my finger over the 'buy' button on Steam as this sim was on sale for such a low, low price. Wanted to buy Rf2 and AMS2 but I got confused by the very poor and lacking game description, which is why I only bought AMS2 instead.
Please clarify this, should this sim go on sale again: does it come with any cars and tracks or must you buy these separately? For the life of me I couldn't find an answer to this. Being afraid that RF2 was a money-grab like iRacing I passed on it. Steam was quick to show you cars and tracks you could buy for Rf2 (not on sale, mind you) but there was ZERO description of whether you get any vehicles with this title or if what you got even let you play online. At least with AMS2 you know you get a ton of cars and tracks (plus VR support) so that was a safe bet. And really glad I did, being able to try out the new Le Mans DLC for free was great. And in VR too mind you. I don't suppose that one would expect Rf2 to support VR seeing how its graphics were designed to run Pentium II. But is this a shameless money grab like iRacing?
Maybe you could clarify the above question? Being Christmas time it's not like I had much time to spare searching for the answer and the sale ended a couple of days ago. However I'd be interested in getting this title, especially after seeing all the fun you had racing the AI.
Hi there.
To summarise, yes the Sim with cars and tracks included. However it's fairly old content that was made at the launch of RF2. However for newer content from S397. If you want to race GT3, GTE or LMP2. You will have to buy it from there in the game's store page separately.
And yes RF2 also supports VR. But as long as you have a relatively good system, you should be able to run it with little to no issues.
Don't get me wrong I did a review on AMS2 as well which I enjoyed for what it is. I too am also enjoying their Le mans pack that they released recently.
Looking very good indeed, I got rear ended by the AI too much the last time I played (2 months or so ago) and just gave up on RF2. How is their pit and strategies logic? Do they make mistakes and DNF? Those kind of features are what make the old sims like GP4,GPL,NR2003 so good. Not only was their wheel to wheel good (at least in GP4 and NR2003) but the overall flow of a full race was very realistic, with mistakes and failures and such. Nowadays only the F1 games manage that same magic.
Hi there. At 9:56 you can see my clip of them making mistakes and even a few crashes in between in which you can choose to do so via the games PLR file under "player" folder.
From what I heard a year or two ago. S397 did release an update for the Sim that allows the AI to select tires themselves rather than just going with just the one compound. I'm yet to test that though.
And yeah I got rear ended a few times as well. But I think that was down to me having the AI aggression just a bit too high
they still crash into you if you brake too early etc, they don't respect your line unless you're exactly wheel to wheel. I tried AMS2? the AI behave kind of the same. The only sim where I didn't have these issues is the first Assetto Corsa, but there they're too "gentle", they give you a bit of too much space when you're passing.
It's hard to find a good AI that respects you but also goes fast (and is subtimmed to the same penalities and mechanical failures/damages).
@@SnaxDesAvionsit shows that no AI in any racing sim is 100% perfect. I respect the fact that RF2's AI is flawed as well. For me though, As evidence has shown at 7:01, I stand by my opinion of RF2 having the best AI on the market right now despite it flaws.
As stated a thousand times before in this comments section. The best way you can race with the AI in RF2 is by keeping the Aggression setting fairly low and turning off the limiter so that they can be more spread out
@@SnaxDesAvions Yea. Rfactor 2 AI can be amazing, but only when you drive in a similar pace to them. If you drive above 100%, I think they "cheat" by having more grip/breaking power. This means if you have someone close behind you, they often brake later than you rear-ending you in the process. The AI have the highest potential to be amazing though if you find the right balance.
Agreed
Cool video
There are some cars in factor 2 that when we make the turn, even if the turn is slow, the car loses its rear end very easily, is there a way to fix this?
Simple. Add some Anti roll bar at the front so that way it can induce more understeer rather than oversteer.
You can also turn down the sensitivity of the accelerator in the settings menu
@@sbsimulators6913 Thank you, it's improved, but still in rfactor 2 when the car behind touches the back of my car I spin immediately, just a light touch for the car to spin, is there any way to improve that too?
@@dvascocampeao Same as above. Just keep adjusting the settings until you find what's right for you
I was amazed when I notice then defend the inside at the end of a straight.. never seen that
Well you have now. That's the brilliance of RF2's AI
Rfactor used my REAL racing teams its the NR. 1 real s8m out there
Agreed! There was even an old video showing Verstappen playing RF1 on what looks like an old G27
Source: ruclips.net/video/M4LuMZmtaho/видео.htmlsi=UQR1Hhtv20Kvq38v
@@sbsimulators6913 U the GOAT
@@lmfixit Ah I'm humbled by that, thanks mate 😊
Great review and I agree with almost everything. Haven't touched any other sim since I got this in early 2023. Runs great on my 8 year old system, physics is the best I have ever experienced and most cars sounds really good as well.
The only thing I don't fully agree with is the AI. I think they are both amazing and bad at the same time. As you showed in the video, they can be amazing, the best in any sim, but they can also be very frustrating to play against. Sometimes they don't even recognize you are there, and they often hit your rear when breaking. I'm always really scared when having an AI close in my mirror, I know I can't break normally or they just hit me. But yea, overall they are great and have by far the highest potential out of all the AI:s in simracing.
Thanks for your comment. You can generally make the AI crash less often into you by turning down the aggression and turning off the limiter.
If you can, you can also try turning down the AI grip in the PLR file
What is your recommend Setting with XBox One Controller?👍😊🙏Great review! RF2 the best!
Can't really say tbh, as I play with a Moza R9 so that info is limited to me.
I think Google will be your friend on that one
Best ai is Rfactor 2, sure, but ai eas even better in the beginning of rfactor 2 when ISI was in charge
Well each to their own as they say. But for me, the AI in its current state is the best I have come across in racing Sim on the market right now
In my opinion Rf2 newer content has top notch graphics, older content not so. It allmost like two different games in one. For sure the newer content looks way better than oem AC without mods. AMS2 has the best graphics and I would place newer rf2 content second. The unreal engine based games never looked good for me
Indeed, cars especially like the Vanwell hypercar have got amazing detail to it and lots of fun to drive.
Good AI sim. Not the best driving experience out there but decent. AI is great tho.
Fair enough point I suppose. Glad we agree on the AI at least ☺️
I must admit, what you show here looks great, so it makes me wondering, did they tweak the AI recently ? (Can't find anything about AI in any recent patch notes.)
I'm asking because earlier this year (2023) I first tried RF2, after I came across a lot of positives on the Internet. I mainly race offline, so against AI, but at the time I personally didn't like the AI at all. (Think it was May 2023.)
I must admit, I might not be the best simracer in the world and I only tried a few track-car combo's, but my opinion at the time was based on some very strange and consistent AI-behaviour, I'll describe below. (It's a while ago, so I might be a little bit off reproducing some details by now !?). Oh, and I just checked, I have about the same AI-settings as I saw in the video.
- Daytona Speedway 24 hours with GT3's => From the start of the race the AI braked way to early for turn one. And it seemed there was no slipstream effect for me at all on the oval parts, but the AI did have it !?
- Then it was Monza - if I remember correctly - also GT3's => In the middle of the home straight, every AI-car had a big wiggle and moved quite a lot, which made the AI look like on rails (strangely shaped rails that is).
But I must admit that every sim I tried so far has it flaws regarding AI. I mean, I'm maybe just not really impressed in general regarding progression on AI-behaviour/level versus what developments in other departments have been recently.
Well I guess, it's maybe because online racing is just much more popular, so it gets 90% of attention on development !?
Lastly: I really don't like how the store works in RF2 ! (I'm sorry, but I would rank RF2 at the bottom of the list regarding the store.)
But I might give it an other try/change soon. Thank you for the video; appreciate !
I'm a bit unsure myself because generally I raced with the AI even back in 2020.
They were a bit slow here and there. But generally a touch of AI strength has them at my pace roughly.
May I inquire about the settings you were using regarding the AI.
I.E The AI strength
The AI Aggression
And were you using the AI Limiter setting?
CORRECTION: I believe this is the answer you seek. As of 2nd of November 2022, Studio 397 made improvements to the AI www.studio-397.com/2022/11/announcing-ai-improvements/
I'm Playing rfactor 2 daily for more than a year and I can say that the AI was incredible before , then with the patch they published a few months ago major problems appeared , now most of the time you can't complete a lap , AI Cars Hit you from back like there is no car there , they overtake so stupidly and . . .
@@ahmadsaviz May I enquire the settings you are using for racing the AI at the time when you were having the issues? I didn't seem to be having those problems myself.
Were you using developer tracks and cars or 3rd party content?
@@sbsimulators6913 I didn't touch any settings files in the game , just with 100 AI and 25 to 100 Aggressiveness through UI , and I have all official content , all cars and tracks , but can say that in most tracks I have the problems specially when driving btcc cars , AI BTCC cars drive like they don't see you in front of them , they hit you and push you out of track , and the same goes with GT3 cars , have you tried btcc cars ?
With offline racing, it helps a lot to let the AI have a qualifying session. It's worth it in my experience, even with first-party content only sessions.
Yeah, I've always done that when doing short races with the AI against RF2. I generally let them have a quali session and I always start from the back just to be on the same pace as them
Exact, rf2 new AI need to learn and try the track/car
U can made an 1h practice and speed up time if u don’t want to drive
I DETEST rFactor 2 AI. It goes off the track and yet loses NO speed as it’s on curbs and dirt, then moves back onto the track hits you. Also, especially in touring cars, every time there’s an AI to user impact, the user takes the brunt of it while the AI manages to drive diagonally down the road miraculously avoiding spinning. I get quarter panel spun constantly by it even when I’m holding my line, and it moves over and hits you on straights. In short, I’ve found that rFactor does not accurately represent a human being who is in any way trying to avoid impact, and the artificial ability to avoid being the one who spins means no consequences. Physics are better than AMS2 , but the AI is just awful.
Well I'm sorry you didn't like the AI in RF2. But evidence presented here in my video says otherwise.
@@sbsimulators6913 evidence in this video actually shows how unrealistic it is. Those times the AI runs wide off the road, keeps foot on it with no loss of traction or control is not realistic. I need to make a video compilation of how the AI regularly wins as they hit your quarter panel and spin you off into the weeds. For fun I decided to drive just as dirty as they do. I quarter paneled an AI car in exactly the way they spin me off. He counter steered which was fine but in spite of me literally trying to push him into a spin cop style he was able to hold the car on the track. And it was NOT believable without the AI having unrealistic grip. Your video might have been better titled "rFactor has the most AGGRESSIVE AI" but not the most realistic. I've been doing Sims and watched races for 30 years . That kind of recklessness is not realistic. It happens but it's the exception not the rule because in most cases that aggression wrecks both cars.
It's a shame that you can't do a manual multiclass with a selection of manual vehicles. the bad thing is that they choose them at random
I know modding groups like Endurancers modding group has a mod that's based on Le mans style multiclass racing.
They have cars in various groups based on both WEC, ELMS and IMSA as well.
However the cars are based on previous generation of GTE and LMP2 and last I checked. The quality is a bit lower than Studio397 content.
But at least you can manually select the group cars you want to race against based on the year and the series they compete in
Do you know if I can choose, for example, 10 lmh, 10gt3 and 10 lmp2. regardless of the mod. I place 30 cars and they are random, the amount per class is disproportionate @@sbsimulators6913
Or is there a mod for that?
@@user-qj8wo2mx1z There is indeed. Check out Enduracers mod steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=788866138&searchtext=Enduracers
@9:00 watching you compliment the dive bombs and fighting tactics. Those are all great, provided the AI is running the same physics as you are. When they are not, they can be programmed to do insane moves and get away with it because their rear tires are glued to the road in a way yours, with the full physics model, are NOT.
You know you can adjust the AI via the aggression setting and lower the grip via the PLR file right
@@sbsimulators6913 yup. Been working with others on this in the rFactor reddit. Unfortunately the AI is still unrealistic, and the physics model still benefits the AI in all contact.
@@RandyMagruder Okay that's fine. You can always play other racing Sims if RF2 isn't your taste.
But I stand by everything I have said in my review
@@sbsimulators6913 enjoy rFactor. You're able to do so obviously. I just got tired of being punted by AI that will not hold their line or give space too many times and I don't play Sims to want to smash windows in frustration especially after viewing the replay looking for my own mistakes and instead just finding that you are not sharing physics with the AI. Here's an idea. Make a video of a 10 lap race at Brands Hatch with BTCC cars and start mid pack. I'd love to see it.
I don't use iracing a lot but their AI is excellent. Rf2 is totally erratic and crashes into you completely randomly. PS: I absolutely love Rf2
Well glad you still love RF2 regardless of its issues at least ☺️
Going from RF2 to any other sim is like putting on blurry glasses.
I assume you're talking about the graphics. If so then allow me to remind you that graphics are NOT the only thing that matters in a game.
In the case of Sim racing. Physics, Quality of Tracks and content and most importantly, the AI, is what has my recommendation for RF2
Ah no i think i wasn't clear at all. I meant that the physics are so good in rf2 that it makes other sims feel numb.
@@shaundodd7390 Ah okay I might have misinterpreted your last statement there 🤣🤣
Better than iracing?
Well not quite, Iracing is better for multiplayer, and RF2 is better for AI racing. Which is why I am happily playing both of them. ☺
RF2 still don't fix the BTCC FWD AI speed, the btcc ai fwd car are too slow compare with the rwd. ( This is for AI only, both btcc rwd and btcc fwd car for human driver is pretty equal on pace)
I mean, I did say in my video that the AI performance varies on the car and track 🤷🤨
One must have a good system to run it, otherwise it will freeze.
I mentioned the minimal system specs at 5:16 of this video where I mentioned that you can get away with running with a GTX950 or the equivalent providing you don't run it on ultra settings or anything like that
@@sbsimulators6913 That is true, but doesn't look good. Thanks for the video and reply! PS, it has the best tire flex/physics, amazing, it is worth.
@@aprosimracing Yeah in fairness even with the minimal requirements. It won't look as good on a higher end system.
And yes RF2 tire physics is the best on the market as well. Worthy of the title "most advanced simulator"
@@sbsimulators6913 I forgot to mention that it has the best car sound as well.
@@aprosimracing also agreed
Preach it brother 🙏🙏
sub🎉
I'm not paying for rFactor2 twice
You do you then
There's so much inconsistency in this game between all and new content, the level of quality where tracks or cars looks outdated and then there's stuff like the porsche cup looking great, and the same can be said dor the ai, in some older cars is atrocious, there's no coincidence some people asks the same questions to improve ai, in this video or similar videos you'll see the same question, because is inconsistent in some car track combos you cant even have a lap let alone a short 10 lap race and such.
I love how it drives in some cars is amazing that's the only reason i dont uninstall it, because of it was for ai, the ai makes looks ac ai like clean racers lol
Well if you paid attention to my video. (Which I'm assuming you didn't) I did say the AI performance varies on the car and track used 🤷😑
just think like that rfactor 2 is a real sim and needs some time to adjust settings and such. like real teams adjusting cars and they use rfactor as their sim to train real drivers
Iracing has better AI. Even AMS2 has better AI from the last update.
In fairness I did do an episode of Honest reviews featuring AMS2 where I praised the AI and how you can get a decent bit of racing out of them ruclips.net/video/xYKKUsyg0_c/видео.htmlsi=4Ncy4cb9BWFgYsNo
For me though. While I will admit that RF2 AI can have a tendency to crash the player of. I would have aggressive AI that are not afraid to put up a fight against not just you the player but other AI as well.
But each to their own as they say
are you saying the AI is better the iracing's AI......interesting.
Can you clarify where in the video I said that exactly?
Learn to speak a little slower for non English speakers. I love rF2 too but the AI is absolute sh*te as it is in Raceroom. I was under the impression that having practice or quali before an offline race, even running on rF2 accelerated time (press X key) might fix things but the AI are blind to the player and will divebomb you every chance they get. I've been trying AMS2 for offline Le Mans and it works quite nicely so far. I need to test rF2 again, in particular for Le Mans, where maybe the AI was never setup correctly, but MSG will not develop the single player aspects any further IMHO...
Okay I'll speak slower in future videos.
In regards to AI. From my perspective, I'm not having the same issues with it. In my experience I think it's cool seeing the AI divebomb on me during a race. When they do so in my experience they do tend to leave the room for you.
The best advice I can give to fix the AI is turning down the aggression and turning of the limiter. They tend to be alot more mature that way.
@@sbsimulators6913 sorry i meant for non native English speakers, those for whom English is not their mother tongue so they might struggle if YouTueb auto captios cannot help. Noted I will try those AI tips. In AMS2 the AI were avoiding me no problem, I'm not the fastest driver to be honest but rF2 AI not even trying to avoid had become frustrating. And in AMS2 during a formation lap the AI would weave to heat up tires, it's actually quite impressive to see in action 🤣
@@DavyJonesSimRacing Ah okay I see your point. Regardless though you're right. I do talk quite fast in my videos so you have a valid point there. 😁
I actually did a review on AMS2 a while ago where I said in the video that there not as aggressive as RF2'S but you can have a good race with them though nonetheless.
For me though, I would rather have AI that is aggressive but will fight you to the bitter end, then AI that don't fight you at all and just follow a line instead
@@sbsimulators6913oh ok your channel came up in recommended today so will sub and check out your other videos (and finish watching this one properly, when I get time 😁)
@@DavyJonesSimRacing No worries mate. Let me link my AMS2 video so you should be able to find it quickly if your interested. ruclips.net/video/xYKKUsyg0_c/видео.htmlsi=nlWLkLZPtjQ5jKAB
Thanks for the sub btw ☺️
I'm just glad your not A.I.
Like an AI voice?
Yea theres a few out there , I'd rather hear a real persons voice insted of a.i.@@sbsimulators6913
Ah I see now. Yes I agree. One thing if AI voices were used in short comedy skits videos. But in commentary videos like mine. It doesn't sound as good.
at the end of the day, the best tire model in the business isn't worth the games downsides. And for VR players, it's a bit of a nonstarter anyways
Well good thing there's other Sims to choose from on the PC if RF2 isn't your taste.
Luckily I enjoy RF2 despite its flaws
But its offline lol at the end of the day you didn't beat anyone. ACC is the best one out there
And your point exactly? 😏
such fanboy ACC is shit ffb is shit tire model too breaking and how it works in ACC no realistic. keep on fanboy 😂
don't mind him its ACC fanboy here😂
ignorance is cork
Max Verstappen would like to have a word about this.
Well good thing this series is called Honest reviews, and not max Verstappen's opinion reviews.
No offense to him though btw as I consider myself a fan of him
@@sbsimulators6913 but do you know what happened to him in rfactor2?
@@MiguelBaptista1981 As a matter of fact I do, and so does everyone else who follows Sim racing closely.
Long story short, he got screwed over by technical regulation during the virtual 24 hours of le mans where he was disconnected from the server and the stewards refused to give him his laps back.
Source: ruclips.net/video/pc7aLrnWbnw/видео.htmlsi=rZw49ywoosx_p4nH
@@sbsimulators6913
Oh, I know what happened, hence my original Comment.
By your reply, you made it seem like "just a guy's opinion" versus yours, so it seemed like you had no clue what happened.
Since you DO know what happened, it makes your dismissal of "his opinion" even more odd.
In conclusion, RF2 sucks for MP. Always has. Always will.
As for AI racing, which is what your video was about, I'll have to take your word for it.
@@MiguelBaptista1981 If that's how you see things then fair enough. I'm going by what I saw from Max's perspective.
Glad we agree on the MP at least. That's why I said in the video that I play RF2 for the single player only.