Secret Recording - Asking Jehovah's Witness Elders Questions Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024
- In this video you will see what happens when a believing Jehovah's witness asks elders questions about the teachings and beliefs of the organization
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They mistake UNITY for TRUTH.
McDonalds is a corporation that serves the same thing no matter where you go to in the world...it doesn't mean that it's the best food. It's just a good man made business plan.
Great analogy!
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
@@incognitofade9574Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
I lost count on how many times they clearly contradicted themselves! My favorite I think was when they said something like it wasn’t untrue it just wasn’t correct 🤯😱
Listening to these type of things only makes me 100% sure this is not only false religion but a cult.
Cult basics..."we dont care if u believe us...we just require blind obedience!!!
You can even be athiest...as long as u tow the line😉
Hearing this elders is giving me a rash. If that was me sitting in front of them, I don't think I could keep my cool...they are blind leading the blind. If you have doubts put it aside because the Org and the 8 men in power is more important than doubts. They don't want to fact- check nothing and won't let others to do so.😒
They don't even care about your concerns or anything.. all they care about is that you attend meetings nothing more.
its a club of fear control
And MONEY.... FEAR and MONEY 💰!
@@Sportliveonline....& YOU WOULD KNOW THIS BECAUSE....?
OMGoodness
HE EVEN LIED ABOUT HIS
👺MOTIVE👹
NEVER EVER IN MY
👉🏽50YRS👈🏽
AS A
BAPTISED
❤️JEHOVAHS WITNESS❤️
HAVE I EVER....
EVER....
HEARD SUCH DELIBERATE LIES
&
DECEPTION
EVER....
I AM SHOCKED & DISGUSTED!!!!
YOU HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO SHAME
NONE!!
@@pauletteforman....& YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE...?
IN MY
50YRS AS A
BAPTISED
❤️JEHOVAHS WITNESS❤️
NO ONE EVER GOES WITHOUT
OR
IS ALONE
&
WE ARE NEVER ASKED FOR MONEY
&
EVERYONE
&
EVERYTHING IS EQUAL!!
❤️
&
NO ONE GOES HUNGRY OR WITHOUT
❤️
NO ONE
❤️
&
EVERYONE IS TREATED EQUALLY
❤️
&
WE ALL OWN THE
👉🏽KINGDOM HALLS👈🏽
ABSOLUTELY JOINTLY!!!!!
SO
STOP MAKING RANDOM STATEMENTS
&
ACCUSATIONS!!!!
What's the point of having three Elders in a meeting where they appoint a chairman who does most of the talking and he waffles on, making no sense most of the time? The standards have gone so low, he reads a paragraph from a Watchtower and gives a quote from McMillan but doesn't once look up a scripture and read it.
Exactly the same: They cannot answer intelligently or honestly. They toe the party line
its a game in a club ~~~~club rules apply
@@Sportliveonline ....& YOU DONT THINK WHAT HE IS DOING
AS
GAME PLAYING!!!!
I PITY YOU SIR!
They have a script....the Shepherd the Flock of god book instructs them to ask certain questions and to quote certain scriptures in order to seek an answer from the accused to justify a reprove or disfellowshiping
Hey mate, fellow Aussie here. Woke up 3 years ago after being an elder for 5 years- ARC started the process. Really enjoyed your jc recordings. The coordinator you dealt with (Andrew) was an elder in my cong back in Tas. Used to go bushwalking with him and his son (who is my age and used to be one of my best friends). A few of us young brothers actually rented Andrew's house when he moved to Darwin years ago. Small world! Take care and enjoy your freedom!
Hey David! wow small world definitely, feel free to reach out to me
on jwexplainerchannel@gmail.com
would love a chat😃
@@channelofcommunication6852 Hey! Will do mate, will try and send something through today.👍
Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
@@channelofcommunication6852Which church are preaching the gospel of the kingdom around the world to all nations as Jesus Christ said? Matthew 10:16, 24:14, 28:19-20, Mark 13:10, if not only only only the Jehovah's witnesses..
They are so much nicer than the elders I’ve met. They start off, screaming and pointing and making the ugliest unsubstantiated accusations based on their own wicked minds and gossip.
I found it interesting that they attacked your reasoning as "faulty",....when a minute earlier they were stating it as fact that there has always clearly been a single chosen organization. What was that organization from the 2nd century to 1878? What "organization" decided what books would be included in the Bible?
Exactly, thank you for that
There is no "organization". The bible is all about the Israelites. Could the GB have switched out Israelites for organization? It appears so.
As you read the Bible you we have to conclude it is about the Israelites. Abraham is a decendent of those people. God even says he is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The promise comes through those lines til Jacob has 12 sons who become the Nation of Israel or the Israelites. The kingdom is for them to rule on earth under their king.
They are not from the 12 Tribes. Revelation 7 teaches us the 144 only comes from the 12 Tribes. We must remember names and times have been changed so people can't identify who people are according to the Bible.
GB are Gentiles
Jehovah Witnesses have 8.4 million members in their church (a religious minority) and yet more people leave the religion than people leave their house everyday to go to work 😂😂😂
If JWs have 8.4 active pubs then I'm a quacking duck..More bullshit for the masses. They must be under 5m by now
OlaFootball....FIRSTLY....
WE DON’T HAVE
⛔️MEMBERS!⛔️
....SECONDLY....
WE DON’T HAVE
⛔️CHURCHES!⛔️
&
THIRDLY
TOTAL RUBBISH SO
👉🏽GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!👈🏽
@@angelvalentine662 I highly doubt the number of active publishers quoted .There's no more yearbooks to build up and encourage the congregation any more with made up service reports (that's active, not irregular or inactive), and whether you call your place of worship a church or a Kingdom hall, is irrelevant...same thing, different name...The only difference is child abusers are normally reported to the police in churches!!..No 2 witness rule.
@@angelvalentine662 data from your watchtower states that around 70,000 JW’s are disfellowship each year! That’s a lot for a religious minority.....
@@SavvyFutbol....SO....
WHAT ARE THE REASONS GIVEN?
41 minutes in and I have no idea how you didn't lose your cool with him. He's so out of touch, he's not even on the same planet.
"God has always had an organisation". They really love spouting this rubbish each time they try to evade answering questions. If the organisation was there, did Jesus join it? What was its name when Jesus was on Earth? They try and claim it was the nation of Israel, but was Jesus part of those running the nation? Did Jesus consult anyone of the rulers before he embarked on his ministry? The same nation that put him to death? The same nation that was under the rule of Herod, who wasn't even an Israeli?
And did a jesus and apostles reported hours to the organization of Israel?
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Hipocrites, farisees, lost souls!
A computer or robot can only answer with what it has been programed with ‘
Sooooo....We don't have any answers for your questions/doubts! But just make sure doubts and questions can be dangerous and cost you your life. Wwwwwtttfff
Conclusion: We dont have answers to your questions but its important for you to come on meetings... Also, doubting comes from the devil....
Amen brother
👑JESUS said👉🏽"KEEP ON ASKING, and YOU WILL RECEIVE WHAT YOU ASK FOR.... ASK, AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN YOU; SEEK, and YE SHALL FIND ; KNOCK, and it SHALL BE OPENED TO YOU"- 👈🏽👑 JESUS CHRIST (Matthew 7: 7; NIV). Asking questions is a sign of intelligence. NOT ASKING QUESTIONS is a sign of stupidity because a closed mind will believe anything. The WT disorganization is full of lies. KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!
Is being a baptized JW and having doubts because you discovered the religion has lied to you similar to finding out you’re spouse lied to you about who they were and have you read a paper THEY wrote titled “When you have doubts about a lying spouse” to convince you that you’re wrong for even having doubts.
I love how they ask you: “And where will you find that knowledge and wisdom from?”
If you said anything other than “Jehovah’s organization” they wouldn’t accept it.
Everything else is apostate lies.
all scholars debate openly on youtube
I realized how much in common JW organization is to the McDonald's corporation they both try to build as many locations in the most profitable areas that bring more revenue (donations) as possible and when they stop being profitable they close them down
I thought at any moment he was going to say... Repeat after me!...
Ask yourself why would Jehovah God who knows every single thing about us including our innermost hearts require us to fill in forms according to our works
It's amazing, they are literally trying to teach you a logical fallacy. The motive, they are convinced, is more important than the facts 🤦🏾♂️
its a manipulation of confirmation bias ~~~~they nether answer the real question
@@Sportliveonline ....& YOU WOULD KNOW BECAUSE....?
@@angelvalentine662 all ancient literarature we have are copies of copies of copies
Note how many times he is saying organation, where in the Bible does it say that God has an organation? I am so glad you are calling this org. In to question.
Go to Jason Zeldas videos, watch them all before you go back to any meeting at the hall.
Jason is a Christian and he will take you through the Bible KJV, and not the JW Bible.
You will learn what the real Bible teaches . Good luck my friend. Love Erik Tonnisen
Don't you know brother you must drink the Kool-Aid 🤣😂
39:00 ohhhhh yess they do. Do your historical research my brother. Read the Declaration of Facts by Rutherford. Read the scathing remarks in many of the Watchtower articles.
they are more interested of secular things like your thoughts and attitude than these important teachings! they just want to rule the situation.
Lol got to love the starvation analogy…”only can you be fed by the weekly TALKS…” as if you couldn’t be ingesting God’s word at home while you worked things out. Only can the watchtower feed you…Not God directly through his word. That pretty much sums up their whole deal.
Better ask the Question Where did C T Russel get his ideas from ????? Ellen G White
It is said Russell got his ideas from Adventists such as Barbour & Miller
True dat
Love how they condemned listening to Satan’s half truth then affirmed coming to meetings even if you think they are wrong 80% of the time.
I really take my hat off to you......for sitting there in listening to their BS!!! I never ever heard a person talk soooo muuuuch....but not saying a daaaam thing!!!
As James Brown used to sing,"Talkin' loud, and sayin' nothing "😅
That’s the best thing to do; act confused it’s less threatening to elders.
I'd be good if you could subtitle it because there are parts that are hard to follow.
I REMEMBER EVERYTHING and why THEY moved BECAUSE the BIBLE SAYS all THOSE who rage war AGAINST me WILL NOT be FOUND for they will be ashamed BECAUSE they are being REVEALED he did not bring me THIS far to LEAVE or forsake me!!❤️💜🧤
fear and control is all their tactics above reason ~~~ we are victims of circumstances good move on a human reacion ~~r u from Australia and u know JW Facts
sounds like the mike is in a bag of crisps
I nearly spat my drink out when he said they don't attack other religions 😂😂
Loose your standing with men and gain everlasting life...Win Win !!
When facts get in the way switch to the reasons the watchtower is the true church. Nevermind the facts. Then follow circular reasoning.
Love the background for the audio.
DOES WATCHTOWER SELL WATCHES??
Maybe soon with end of times predicting countdown! Who knows? Don’t give them ideas! They already sell Kingdom Halls (real estate business)
@paulette foreman when I type in Caps I SOUND CRAZY I like and UNDERSTAND what you're saying in caps!!✔️
Ni turning back. It can't be over God's Sovereignity
Jesus is the way ...the truth ...and the life!
As per the elder can he tell us what was the name of God’s organisation before the late 1800’s, was it Christendom? Since they claim God chose the JWs in 1919.
So sad that disbelieving in the "organization" is not believing in Jehovah or the Bible and they just do NOT see or hear that. So sorry. I'm 2 years faded and struggle reasoning with people also. And they all give the same canned expected responses...which is a nonresponse and no facts to show you why what they believe is true.
I do not know you very well. With all due respect. One thing I have learned is that we should not develop in US the intention of putting the God of the Bible to the test ! ( Matthew 4 : 5 through 10 ) Please consider : Deuteronomy 6 :16 / Luke 4 : 12 / 1 Corinthians 16 : 9 . Also : Luke 4 : 8 . So it is a spiritual war that we are all in. So Satan could not be allowed to convince US tĺļhat we are doing things wrong . So this God's Visible Organuzation in comparision to the others that DO NOT HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE ONLY TRUE God's message in the Holy Bible! So the God of The Bibie and His Dearest Son Jesus Christare our True🎉
He compared their teaching to nasty food I need to eat to stay alive......thats insane
“When u believe in the trinity u don’t believe in the ransom” - whaaaaaaat? This man is beyond deluded, lost, hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about, clearly doesn’t understand the bible whatsoever, and more importantly, doesn’t know God. Geez! He makes my head hurt!
Maria Cottingham That was the one that made me want to grab that "Elder's" neck right thru the phone and wring until his head snapped off. That really made me angry hearing that crap, because this is how they describe us Christians while spewing this crap from their podiums, yet when confronted by a real Christian, they say they don't bad mouth anybody like other religions. What a load of horse crap.
@@richbaker7187 absolutely. It’s infuriating
"Keep asking those questions you'll find yourself looking from the outside in" Elder Laroach in Oklahoma
Great Job keep Exposing Watchtower LIES
Ooops : ' His Dearest Son Jesus Christ are True and Loving friends ! 'And They want to help us very much ! So we have to be ì patient with Jehovah God and NOT to beg away from this Organization known aksibas Jehivah'
Ooops : So very important not to BEG AWAY ; we should pray to Our friend Jehovah through Jesus Christ and beg to Jehovah that we do not want to doubt because everything it is as due time. We need to Not Give Up in managing to do very good things. So we do not need to be ashamed. Also 1 Corinthians 15 : 58 ~》So it says not to be moving away from The Truth or God's Visible Organization so our labor will not be in vain in association with the LORD ! There is another guide from the Holy Bible that says that with many tribulations we will make it to the True God's Kingdom ! Acts 14 :22 ~ Read this one. Also the other scripture reads ' what sort person ought you to be deeds of Godly Devotion. ' There is a scripture on this thought. So saran is the enemy so we need to be prepared to be successful because saran has shown that he dies not like to be successful. He does not like to be successful at all. So Satan knows that is words that we fight against him. Jesus Christ when on Earth; He was obedient to Use the proper words as He knew as He dealt with situations that He needed to use at that proper time. So he was prepared to handle and Be successful at the proper time. So Our Dear set the very Good example on How to manage the situations. You see He was convinced that where He was at ; was the right place to be and NO OTHER PLACE ! SO IT IS A SPIRITUAL WAR FARE WE HAVE AGAINST THE ENEMY OF Everlasting Life ! So The God of the Holy Bible and His Only Begotten Son Jesus Christ teaches Us what and How much satan was a pest and just a pain in the _____ ! So we are informed about allb those things that they had to deal with. So of course is all about words. The fruitage of the spirit ( are eight words ) the first one is ' Love '. So Love does not behave indecently ! So we need to please The Only True God and His Son ! There are going to be disappointments. You just have to reach for Christian maturity ! Another thing I have learned from this Organization is if we pray for certain things we need to obey in harmony with what we pray for on on every second situation. So one word at a time and to many words at a time. As humans Only one word at a time , LAD. THIS WHAT THE Governing Body teaches ! Everything I have learned about ' God's Truth has been with The Visible Organization ! So reviewing God does teach Us what we need to know on what type ( s ) of problems the First Century had to face ! So we need to endure and make sure what we have learned is clear thoughts fom above ! [ John 8 : 44 < That one was a murderer when he began and he did not stand fast in the Truth because Truth is not in him ' ! So we need not too imitate satan for being a Liar or he being a murderer ' in our things we do in this life ! . So we need to Not imitate the bad things that the Bible teaches exist at present !
MY name is Edgar at : 346 375-3752 in HOUSTON , Texas 😊😊😊😊😊😊
I am 21 minutes in and I don't understand why they haven't addressed any of your concerns. How can you believe in an organization that dismisses you? Everything they are bringing up is not in sequence with your concerns. Blatantly telling you that you should continue to let me control your thoughts and discreetly letting you know that testing the truth which is in the Bible, it's not a great idea..
These elders lack ay empathy at all. If this guy has doubts still they demand he still be an elder and give speech.
Even Jackson at the Royal Commission said JW is not the only God's only true organization. THE WORLD OFFERS MUCH BETTER THAN JW.
Man this guy needs a help I feel sorry for him
The prison analogy is extremely telling; that's exactly what their organisation is. Once in, the only way out is with the help of the true God of the bible. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life. Not these earthly men. 1 Timothy 2:5 Matthew 7:15 1 Peter 1:23. None of their many prophecies have ever been fulfilled. Deuteronomy 18: 20-22. No publication is needed other than God's Word, the Holy Bible. Take serious heed of Revelation 22:18.
What truly and I am asking Is why dothey call themselves Christians if they are not followers of Christ as Lord and savior....do they truly not see how dishonering that is to Jesus. Cs Lewis says he is either Lier lunatic or LORD. NObody can make the claims He made and not be God in the flesh. I wish you would make a video explaining that I would def watch.
BROTHERMAN, THE VOW A PERSON MAKES TO JEHOVAH, CAN NOT FADE AWAY. IF YOU MAKE A VOW TO JEHOVAH GOD, YOU BETTER KEEP IT. ( Deuteronomy 23 verse 21, Ecclestiastes 5 verse 4) when a person make a vow to Jehovah, nobody hold a gun to their head and force them to make the vow. Remember JEPTHTAHA, JUDGES 11 verse 30 to 35. You just simply can not UNVOW, a VOW you made to JEHOVAH. A vow to jehovah is not a new year resolutions that most people make knowing fully well they are not going to keep. I FEEL SO SORRY FOR YOU. WOW.
How can a 10 year old know all the info before getting baptised and the shunning.think pls
Exodus 16:8,Numbers 21:5-8,Isaiah 8:10,.
Motives for doubting??!!
Websters dictionary should links to this video to fully explain cognitive dissonance
Hi bro you are too clever for them
GOD IS NOT A LITERAL TORTURER. GOD is LOVE. He only gives eternal life to those who exercise faith in him and his Son (John 3:16, John 14:1) and NOT TO WICKED people. The Wicked will VANISH AND WILL BE NO MORE. Psalms 37:20
Phil 2:12 - New King James Version
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
How many is Jehovah? Trinitarians say there are THREE Jehovah. What does the Bible say? There is ONE JEHOVAH and NOT THREE JEHOVAH. Deut 6:4. - “Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah
WHO IS THE STAR IN NUMBERS 24:17? That is Jesus. It is the same Hebrew word used in Job 38:7 for the morning stars. So as Jesus is called THE BRIGHT morning star (REV 22:16) so also are the other morning stars(angels). So Jesus is the CHIEF Angel with the archangel's voice (1 Thes 4:16). Jesus is called Prince of Peace in Isa 9:6 and the original Hebrew word for Prince means PATRON ANGEL which is the same Hebrew Word used for Michael the archangel in Daniel.
Jesus is the High Priest and the High Priest is NOT GOD himself.
GOD DOES NOT WORSHIP HIMSELF : John 4:22 -You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews.
Jesus Included himself IN WORSHIPPING THE FATHER. ONLY A CREATION WILL WORSHIP GOD.
If the holy Spirit is a PERSON then now you have MANY PERSONS IN ONE GOD. REV 5:6 - seven eyes, and the eyes mean the seven spirits of God.SO NOW YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL SEVEN PERSONS IN GOD.
Who is the cause of Salvation? Both GOD and the lamb are saviors, Rev 7:9-10, even Jesus needed to be saved by the Father from death as the Father is the SOURCE OF LIFE AND SALVATION , Hebrews 5:7 & John 5:26 - THE FATHER GAVE THE SON LIFE.
Does the Bible called Jesus MADE AND BORN? Yes! JESUS is the Messiah and a CREATION BY GOD! He is called “BORN OF/FROM GOD”. (1 JOHN 5:18) Hebrews 1:5 showed that Jesus was MADE/BORN (orig Greek-gennaw). Also it says "he will become my son" Notice, FUTURE TENSE, WILL, so before that the SON DID NOT EXIST. If you are BORN AND MADE then you are a creation. , Hebrews 1:5 mentions I WILL BECOME HIS FATHER, so Jesus relationship with the Father has a BEGINNING, When ? it was TODAY. TODAY implies a beginning. Also Acts 2 mentioned GOD MADE JESUS as Lord and Christ. HEBREWS 1 :5 - the original greek word used there for begotten/born also means MAKE. so Jesus, the SON was MADE. Word: gennaw Pronounce: ghen-nah'-o Strongs Number: G1080 Orig: from a variation of 1085; to procreate (properly, of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively, to regenerate:--bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring. G1085.
When did Jesus become SON? Even before Jesus became human he is called SON , Prov 30:4
Was Jesus GIVEN LIFE?
He is called the firstborn and beginning of the CREATION BY GOD (COL 1, Revelation ) Also john 5:26 mentions that the FATHER GAVE JESUS, THE SON, with LIFE. If Jesus was given LIFE OR EVEN ETERNAL LIFE, then Jesus does not have life or eternal life before those were given to him. Notice, the Father was NOT given life.
JESUS was MADE LORD (ACTS 2:36).JOHN 6:57 - Jesus Said “ I LIVE BEC OF THE FATHER” SO JESUS’ LIFE was dependent on the Father and his SOURCE OF LIFE/Eternal Life IS THE FATHER as John 5:26 states as well. 1john 5:1 - Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born from God,+ and everyone who loves the one who caused to be born loves him who has been born from that one . who is this that HAS BEEN BORN from that one? That is Jesus! 1 John 5:18 - Jesus is called BORN FROM GOD JESUS IS BORN FROM GOD, 1 JOHN 5:18 - We know that everyone who has been born from God does not practice sin, but the one born from God* watches him, and the wicked one cannot take hold of him . WHO is the ONE BORN FROM GOD that watches us and protects us and who does not sin? JESUS CHRIST!
HAS ANYONE SEEN GOD?
NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD and if they see GOD's face THEY WILL DIE. Jesus was seen by many and they didn't DIE so Jesus Is Not The Almighty God. Jesus is called SON even before coming to earth as human. Exo 33:20 states "“You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”" NO MAN CAN SEE ME, notice ME , you think ME IS NOT LITERAL? IT IS LITERAL "ME" WHO IS GOD.
GOD IS FROM FOREVER:
John 1:1 mentions the WORD WAS IN THE BEGINNING, so Jesus was LIMITED "IN THE BEGINNING" Unlike GOD who is FROM FOREVER (Psalms 90:2).
Is "a god" a valid translation in John 1:1? Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1.
The Greek used in the BIble does not have an indefinite article "a" so that's why you don't see the "a" in John 1:1, The Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word “god” in the final part of John 1:1. again, john 1:1 about theos - Strong's Concordance theos: God, a god , so "a god" is a valid translation. "The NAS New Testament Greek Lexicon" defines theos as "a god" as well. so it is a valid translation. Also Thayer's Greek Lexicon also defines theos as "a god" so it is a valid translation
Is Jesus the same as Jehovah? Jesus is the SON. Jehovah is Our FATHER (Isa 63:16). Even the trinity doctrine states the SON IS NOT THE FATHER, so Jesus is NOT JEHOVAH
How many person is GOD? God said " I am God Almighty", The use of I am, means GOD is ONE PERSON. Do you use I am, me, myself, me alone for ONE LITERAL PERSON or THREE PERSONS? You only use those phrases for ONE literal person and NEVER FOR THREE PERSONS.
Is Jesus described as a Morning Star like the Angels? Yes. Rev 22:16 - 16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the congregations. I am the root and the offspring of David+ and the bright morning star.’”+ JESUS IS THE BRIGHT MORNING STAR, Angels are also called morning stars in Job 38:7, so Jesus is the BRIGHT OR CHIEF OF THE ANGELS (archangel) as 1 Thessalonians 4:16 mentions.
What does Firsborn means?
So depending on the context the firstborn can be the chief, principal, or first in time or place or rank. Still though, when you use the firstborn with an OF, “firstborn OF”, because of the OF , that means the firstborn BELONGS TO THE GROUP, just like when you say firstborn of the sheep. The firstborn is a sheep. So Jesus belongs to the group of creation, firstborn of all creation.
Does John 8:58 correlate with Exodus 3? In Exodus 3, GOD is called I WILL BECOME (not I am) and does not correlate with John 8:58
Word: DID Pronounce: haw-yaw Use: TWOT-491 Verb 1) to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out
Jehovah is called GOD of gods, who are these gods? if you say that those are all false gods, then you are saying that GOD is like Satan as he is God of all false gods. Those gods exist, just like King of kings, those kings exist.
Is Jehovah, GOD's name? Psalms 83:18.
Strong's No.: H3068 Hebrew: יְהֹוָה Transliteration: Yᵉhôvâh Phonetic: yeh-ho-vaw'" and even the BIBLE mentions the God's followers containing his name. Jehoshaphat, jehu, etc. With all Jehovah, the God of the Bible. Yes. Jehovah is God in the Bible, the Our Father (JEHOVAH) ISA 63 AND WHO IS JAH , JEHOVAH that is WORTHY OF PRAISE AND GLORY! ISA 26:4 - 4 Trust in Jehovah forever,h For Jah* Jehovah is the eternal Rock.
JEHOSHAPHAT(MATTHEW 1 :8) - Easton's Bible Dictionary Jehovah-judged. Easton's Bible Dictionary Jehovah-judged. Smith's Bible Dictionary Jehoshaphat - (whom Jehovah judges.) Yup, JEHOVAH is the name of GOD IN THE BIBLE as his followers have the name of Jehovah in their name.
What was Jesus role in creation? He is the Master Worker (Prov 8) and a channel used by GOD in the creation.
Notice the TWO WORDS translated as By/Through in Col 1:16 - 1. En - a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively),.. Notice it says INSTRUMENTALITY 2. Dia - a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act Notice it says CHANNEL OF AN ACT So Colossians 1:16 simply mentions that Jesus is USED BY GOD AS A CHANNEL OF AN ACT, AN INSTRUMENT in the Creation. Compare that to GOD in 1 Cor 8:6 , notice for God the Father he uses the word EK - or ex ex a primary preposition denoting ORIGIN (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):- Notice GOD the Father is the ORIGIN/FROM ,THE SOURCE FROM WHOM ALL THINGS are created. BIG DIFFERENCE. So the FATHER IS the ORIGIN of all things. For JEsus, it didn;t use the word Origin but "THrough" which in the Original Greek word also means "a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act". So God the Father is like the WRITER, he used his Son as a channel of a act to write (like a pen). So the only writer is the Father, the Son was used as a channel and NOT THE ORIGIN of creation. This is confirmed by Jesus in John 5:19 - " Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.+" JESUS CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING , his FATHER always guide him.
All things came into existence through him,e and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. - Jesus is first BORN/MADE (Heb 1:5, 1 JOhn 5:18) by GOD directly , only begotten by GOD, the Father , ALL things (which does not include of course Jesus and his Father and the holy spirit) came into existence THROUGH him (Jesus). the word through (DIA in Greek means - a primary preposition denoting the CHANNEL of an act; ) So Jesus was used as the CHANNEL in the creation. The source is the Father.
Where in the Bible does it say Jehovah's organization ?
Where at Matthew 24:45-47 does it say that Jesus appointed the governing body as the faithful and discreet slave and that this took place in the year 1919?
Where in the Bible does it say Jesus would return invisibly and start ruling as king in heaven in the year 1914 ?
Where in the Bible does it say that God is using the governing body of the jws as His channel of communication?
Where in the Bible does it speak of an overlapping generation ?
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
Note it does not say Jesus was limited in the beginning and it does not mean Jesus was limited in the beginning .
@@ericbulman1752 Sahidic Coptic text in JOhn 1:1 says A god.
@@ericbulman1752 Where do you find the terms TRINITY, TRIUNE GOD in the BIble, zero, none
@@ericbulman1752 Does GOD put always DATES in the bible prophecies? so tell us, the World Wars 1 & 2, and COVID, Do they have dates in the BIble for those and if not, does it mean they are NOT FULFILLMENT OF BIBLE PROPHECIES?
The Australian Royal Commission
They cannot accept the truth
No humility: Not accepting reality not repentance. CSA is good it happened: What is he saying?
So JW is not perfect. That is what he saying.
CSA is a clear example that JW does not have Jehovah blessing.
Lack of recognization and repentance.
Read the New Testament; REPENTACE is one of the fundamental message of the NT.
All these analogies!!!!!!!!!!
Dedicated your life to TheOrg...NOT God ! Relationship with God is not Relationship thru watchtower. It's through his son The Truth!! 🙏
#1 rule no question ask lol..what the bible says in hagai 2:11
C FROM WHERE DID SATAN COME?
All of Jehovah's works are perfect; he is not the author of unrighteousness; so he did not create anyone wicked. (Deut. 32:4; Ps. 5:4) The one who became Satan was originally a perfect spirit son of God. When saying that the Devil "did not stand fast in the truth," Jesus indicated that at one time that one was "in the truth." (John 8:44) But, as is true of all of Go's intelligent creatures, this spirit son was endowed with free will. He abused his freedom of choice, allowed feelings of self-importance to develop in his heart, began to crave worship that belonged only to God, and so enticed Adam and Eve to listen to him rather than obey God. Thus by his course of action he made himself Satan, which means "adversary."---Jas. 1:14, 15.
The Elder clearly does not understand the trinity
Ask them if their Masons?
59:46, 1:01:27 Really bro?
Nope! No answers to your questions.
So you present specific reasons that you doubt....their response is a 1980 article that talks about teachings that have nothing to do with your reasons for doubting....OMG this is awful. The gist of their counsel is to keep busy with the meetings, service etc.... that will alleviate all the doubts you have...lolol....the programming in this faith is real. Finally the tone of the elder taking the lead is this discussion is condescending and disrespectful...speaking to you in a way as if you have no level of intellect. I stopped attending in 2021 due to this type of foolishness.
Why is it that in a restaurant or talking sports these Elders can talk 3times faster about anything else worldly. This has to be a backroom meeting. A Sunday talk goes faster in content than any backroom meeting ever has. You would think their brains were constipated on a toilet. That's why they get fat, sitting for hours to get one hour out.
So, you stole their time?
Those questions are completely unbiblical especially their answers.
Completely man made answers and not Biblical.
They completely ignore John's Gospel and Paul's letters especially the letter to the Roman's. Pillars of their faith is very much made up fairy tales. They muddle truth with lie.
Great Scripture manipulation to promote Watch Tower.
This is so hard to listen to, especially you playing dumb for whatever reason you chose to