GM Instrument Cluster Repair
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- GM instrument cluster repair as demonstrated on a 2004 Silverado 2500HD
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Thank you for not having loud distracting background music... and placing the narrative at the bottom of the screen... I am a little hard of hearing so reading the instructions was better for me... Great video!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍🏻
Thank you so much for your video. It's saved me a lot of money and a lot of time all I needed was a soldering iron and some time to fix my instrument cluster. It's because of people like you that I absolutely love RUclips how to videos.
Thank you again.
+Brian Calvert glad to help.
VERY helpful! Thank you for this! My entire cluster went out and I had to buy a new one.. this has helped me avoid paying for labor!
Best repair video ever. Thanks! Everyone who posts a repair video needs to take notes from this one! Very helpful.
+jimmy Roulette thank you. Glad to help.
This video just gave me the balls to fix my speedometer ha ha! Thanks for taking the time to make this. Wish I could have seen you do a LED swap since I'll be in there already.
+ezskanken glad to help.
Great video. Thanks for the confidence to try this myself 😂
Thank you! This helped me fix my PRNDL display.
Glad to help. 👍🏻
You are the best bro...thanks for all your EXCELENT videos
You're welcome 👍🏻
I'll have to do this. Very good video!
Glad you found it helpful.
Great video, thanks for showing the part number needed..168 (2003 Sierra right |?)
also slightly off topic, isn't the oil pressure gauge reading is too high ? my Sierra shows 50 when driving and 25 or so, when stopped and in drive.Thank you
+sam kahill this was on a 2004 Silverado HD. Oil pressure on this and my 2004 1500 are pretty close all the time. It doesn't drop down into the 20psi range at all.
Gracias amigo.
Nothing but praise for your video. Thanks. Is there a possibility to harness all wiring in ONE multi-stranded-colour-coded conductor, carrying the signals for AMP meter, VOLT meter, Engine VACUUM, Fuel Pump PRESSURE, and others like that? Thanks again.
Thank you for this!!!
+Jonathan Corella glad to help
Great Video, I just finished fixing my clusters on my 2005 Yukon with guidance of this video. How about the lamps?
Thanks
Awesome, glad to help.
They solder into the board the same way. Can be purchased on eBay.
this "well known mechanic" that supposedly charges cheap in town wants $450 to do this simple task smdh... stuff like this just makes me want to become a mechanic so I can run these wolves out of business charging cheaper prices that can be affordable... thanks for the great video!
+BarNone FadeAll I used to charge $100 a cluster at my shop.
+BarNone FadeAll I used to charge $100 a cluster at my shop.
+zcamaross09 $100 is a good price bro, that's how much local auto shops on Craigslist around my area are charging that or $120, that's a fair decent price. Thanks again!
Very good! Thanks
+Maik Elétrica Automotiva glad you enjoyed the video.
Hi there - quick question regarding the video/cluster. Just above the speedometer stepper motor from left to right are 4 '122' resistors and then it looks like 2 'pinkish/red resistors? The pinkish looking resistors have fallen off my wife's instrument cluster... I was wondering if you'd be able to tell me what they are so I can try and purchase them somewhere! The cluster won't power up I'm hoping these are the culprit.
Happy motoring :)
thanks is very good
+Radiochat102 Chat glad to help
Slick good job bro helpful as hell
+stephen tarabetz glad to help.
Can you go over the repair of the info strip itself in depth or can I contact you directly regarding that? I sent my cluster off to have that specifically fixed and it came back with the same problem
I watched another video on this and the guy was trying to reinvent the wheel, you simplified this so much. Thanks for the vid, great job. Them LED's tho, ooooooo lol. Where can I pick those up at and what are the specs on them? Are they just led diodes or do I need to get specific rated diodes?
+bblazeff1 glad you enjoyed the video.
These were SMD LEDs, I believe they were 3528s. Just soldered them into the light socket on the board with the appropriately sized resistor.
GREAT VIDEO! Very informative. You just saved me 500$! Thanks you sir!
+Miloe Oner glad to help
So there is no possibility that A blown fuse can compromise the cluster ?
Great video! What is the scanner you used to check if your gauges were accurate?
Thanks!
+Monolith 50 my scan tool is a Snap-on VERUS Pro.
I've been using the old method of hitting it and it comes on, sometimes it stays on for a long time, sometimes it stays on for awhile then goes out, sometimes I have to hit it hard or just the knuckles on certain areas for it to come on, wonder if it's this or something else?
Mine does the same thing. had to hit it to work now nothing works not even the display.
Jason Yang did you find out the problem cause minds do the same thing
Michael Hall I took it apart and tried to re solder it, but the solder connections were all burnt up, so I just ordered a whole new re manufactured one with core discount.
Hi MrSubaru. I can see that this is a 5 years old video. But I'd like to ask you a couple questions anyways. A few months back (march 2020) I bought a BRAND NEW 2019 3.6R Outback. The car was not available at the dealer, so they had to get it from another one, more than 300 kilometers away. When I picked up the car it was 13 kms on the odometer. I am suspicious they didn't use a flat bed truck to transport the vehicle and instead drove the car all the way from one city to the other. My questions: Is it possible that the odometer has been tampered with? If so, is there any way to confirm this and find out the real odometer figure? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Sounds like they trailered it to me.
Thank you great video can I get a link to buy the stepper motors and the led lights?
+theAlienkidd007 just got the steppers on eBay. Let's came newark.com.
if a cluster is bad will it not work and cause truck motor to start and shut off?
Thanks for sharing the how to rebuild and one question what bulb size where the led
Do the needles really auto calibrate. I have seen in other videos people putting tape on the guage face with a mark. Just curious if all the needles auto calibrate no matter where you put the needles while changing them. Also have you done any videos on the led upgrade... Great video btw
+Adam Hornyak I've rebuilt plenty of these cluster, and never marked the needles. Just always set them to the "zero" mark at assembly, far left. No, no led install video yet I'm afraid. Glad you enjoyed the video. 👍
What was the part number of those replacement LEDs that you used?
thanks for the info....nice vid
Why did you skip the part of taking the two tabs on the back of the front cover? Those two are a bisht to take off. I couldn't get mine off. What did you do to get them off?
Just a pocket screwdriver.
HIGH FIVE thank you sir.
+Jesse cordero glad to help
Very helpful! Just wondering why do you need your car on to remove the cluster?
+Drew T what do you mean?
Sorry meant why do you have to turn the key if either way you are moving the stepper motors back to 0? I was wondering if it could do something to the battery disconnecting the cluster
+Drew T I turn the key on so I can shift into 1st gear and remove the cluster bezel. With the shifter in Park you can't remove the bezel.
makes sense thank you! going to try and fix my ascender tomorrow
I have a 2004 Silverado the cluster totally shut off the transmission window selector goes off along with the odometer the gauges quit working then come back on will this correct that thank you in advance awesome video
+tick tock sounds like you may have a short somewhere in your cluster or wiring to/from the cluster.
So you think resoldering where the main plug is would correct that
+tick tock well, if you see a break in the solder joint, yes, but if not the issue may be harder to track down.
We deal with the issue you're talking about everyday. The issue is inside the cluster. We can repair it. Belowis a link to our repair service.
www.ebay.com/itm/GM-Chevy-Speedometer-Instrument-Gauge-Cluster-Full-Repair-Service-stepper-LEDs-/222105873891?hash=item33b68aade3:g:Ds0AAOSw3mpXKA6t&vxp=mtr
Nice video, but i noticed you replaced all the bulbs as well, looks like with LED,s why didn't you show that step as well?
+Lacy Biddix correct. I did replace the illumation with LED. Point of this video was replacing the stepper motors. The lighting upgrade wasn't priority.
If you turn those needles at the same time you pull them they come off easy
I've had the problem in the past where my entire instrument cluster would go dead. No speedo, no gas gauge, no nothing. Sent it to get fixed, got it back and a bit later the entire LED is not working. I have no idea what my mileage is. Sometimes I can smack the dash and it comes on for a few minutes only to turn off again. Now, my gas gauge only goes to 3/4 of a tank, even though I just put $40.00 in last night. As I'm in CA, that means I only got a little over 10 gallons, but it should still register as fuller. Could this be a stepper motor problem or is it , hopefully just a bad connection behind the cluster?
Thanks in advance for any help and thank you for posting this vid.
Sound like a bad solder joint somewhere or bad connection at the cluster harness.
+zcamaross09 Thanks for the quick reply! I'll take a look at it this weekend and try to let you know.
zcamaross09 Well, I got the cluster off with no problems. Cleaned out the plug, checked for any bad soldering, didn't see any, plugged it back in, and it worked! For about two minutes, then it turned off. I smacked the dash, it came back on then went off. We played this game a few times before coming back to RUclips to find another fix. No luck. Any more ideas? Thanks in advance.
Good evening, I have quick question. I have a newer engine that has less milliage than my 2003 Subaru outback engine has. My car is running good and not sure if I should take this newer engine and swap it out. Mine as currently has 313,000 miles on it and the other engine has close to 200,000 thousand. At the moment it is sitting on a pallet covered by a tarp. It is in VT and trying to get to Maine. Possible if I don’t do this it will sit under a tarp for the winter. My question, is that ok and if not a tarp, to build a pallet box around it and would it be ok then?
+Damon Vis I have several, about 6 Subaru engines outside my shop right now. They're on wooden pallets and covered/inside large thick plastic bags. As long as water can't get to it/in it. You should be just fine. I'd put some thick plastic sheeting over the engine, under the tarp.
how do you figure out the correct resistance on television led's? I just ordered some stepper motors and I found a package with led's. well I know the the truck is 12v so I guess I find out how many volts the leds are then get the correct resistor?
+Javier Pinedo correct. This should help. www.ohmslawcalculator.com/led-resistor-calculator
So there is no specific stepper motor for each? They can all use the same one?
+Mylon Calamity correct. All gauges use the same motor.
My Battery Gauge is reading 19+
Ive replaced My Alternator already and have a new Battery,
Do you think This is the next likely Culprit to my issue??
I drive a 2002 GMC Envoy...
and it just recently started stalling too... which is why my first thought was alternator...
Just trying not to spend Money where I don't have to, But Im thinking this is my next endeavor!! :/
Any suggestions very appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
+Amanda Dillanger I'd have to believe that it's a faulty gauge. If it were truly over 19 volts, all the electrical components would be fired in the vehicle.
If I only have 2 gauges not working do I still have to replace them all or just 2?
You can replace only the bad gauges, but while you're in that deep, might as well replace them all. They're all the same age and will all die fairly close to each other.
Is it possible my gas mileage isn’t as bad as what my gauge is reading right now? Just bought my 04 Envoy this weekend and the oil pressure gauge and the volt meter are pegged out and it’s getting really shorty gas mileage or the gas gauge is faulty. Either way I’ll replace them all, guess I would feel better hearing that it’s not gonna kill my wallet on fuel being that it’s an in-line 6 lol Thanks man
There's a known issue with the sending unit in the fuel tank effecting the gas gauge too. Could be a bad gauge stepper motor, a bad fuel level sending unit, or both. I've replaced several sending units in Trailblazer /Envoys.
Hi help me
My tacho is dead when I try to start with third battery and the generator fuze 60 is cut then I replaced the fuse and the cluster. But unfortunately is dead again that cost my alot of mony lm bankrupt with dead tacho..
My truck is hyundai65
No mcu on it ..
Is the convertor 12v for radio cause thes or ETACS....THNKS
sorry for my bad English
How can you change the color of the pdrl and odometer
I tired this and it fixed the problem for about 2 weeks and the dash stopped working again. I disconnected everything and put it all back together and nothing. Do you have any idea what it could be? i have a 2003 Tahoe. Thank you.
+JB Castro cluster completely dead? Or just a gauge or two? Checked fuses?
MrSubaru1387 all stopped working. what do I look for in the fuses. i just made sure they were all connected.
+JB Castro I believe there is a fuse for the cluster alone. Check to see if it has popped.
Great video, did you happen to record the LED swap by chance? I assume those are SMD's and a 470K ohm resister on each? Other videos show zeroing the old steppers and marking with tape, is that not necessary? All my gauges except speedo are off (replaced that one 2 years ago but had to use a gps speed tracker to calibrate and my OBD2 scanner doesn't do oil pressure. Thanks
I did not record the led part unfortunately. They were smds and I can't remeber exact resistance I used on them. I've rebuilt probably 30-40 clusters this way with no issue in taping or zeroing anything. From my understanding when the cluster is installed and power is applied all the gauges calibrate to the needle park position.
I couldn't find any stepper motor for 97 blazer, is any GM one work or it have to be depend on the year.
Can not speak from experience on that one. Never been inside a blazer cluster.
stepper motors for 97 is different
I have watch this video and others. Very informative! Thanks! But my question is this. I've been told that once you unplug the cluster from the wire harness to fix the bulbs, you have to have the cluster reset by a Chevy dealer. I've been told only they can do the reset. Is this true? If not, why don't any videos show the cluster going back in and working properly such as mileage, readings, control center, etc? Does it have to be reset after it's unplugged? Thanks in advance.
did you ever get an answer on the cluster gauge reset by the dealership after replacing the parts?
They do NOT have to be reset or programmed. Sorry, I just now saw the comment.
oh cool, I have a 2003 Cadillac Escalade and the gauges are going crazy, rpm is stuck on 6 000, fuel gauge is so far over it's almost reading empty, and miles per hour either doesn't work or says I'm doing 5 to 10 miles over the speed limit, I might try to repair it myself since I do plenty of soldering, any advice where I can get the parts (cluster stepper motors) to do this?
+Heinrich amazon /eBay. Where I get mine.
can I send mines to u I have a Pontiac Bonneville I want the led lights and my mph speedometer not moving can u fix it for me
Is it common for all the stepper motors to go at the same time? Or is that an indication of a bigger problem
+Robert Walker usually they fail one by one. Not all at once. If the cluster went dead all at once, may be a different problem.
MrSubaru1387 thanks for the quick reply.. all the lights on the cluster are working but none of the needles work.. everything was fine last night and today dead..
+Robert Walker hmm. Do they jump or move at all when you turn the key on?
MrSubaru1387 they were doing absolutely nothing but just now I took the cluster out to look at the motherboard everything seemed fine so I plugged it back in and it seems to have reset because all the gauges work now. I truly appreciate your feedback tho
+Robert Walker glad to help.
what LEDS did you use?
Where did You buy The Tools you used on this video
+Manuel Garcia Mostly Amazon
Would this work on a saab cluster?
the message center on the odometer on our 04 silverado switches from English to Spanish to French and won't show the mileage. will changing the stoppers correct our problem or does this just operate the gauges on the panel
+Ruth Obrien that just operates the gauges. It won't have any effect on the DIC display.
Thanks. Do you rebuild them or know who does?
+Ruth Obrien I do not. I'm sure there are services for it though.
Ok. Thanks again.
How did you do the leds lights? Do you have a video?
Not yet. Will do a separate video soon.
Nice I just did mine hoping I did it right.
I have a Pontiac GP I'm being priced at 700. I'm being told that they have to replace the entire instrument panel. does this sound right?
+Symone Anway what year model?
2004 Pontiac Grand Prix.
+Symone Anway I'm not sure if those can be rebuilt like these.
Does the cluster need to be reprogram on 03 trailblazer?
+David Garza no
are the LEDs installed the same way?
Similar, must add the correct resistance to the leds though. Not a straight replacement.
Hi, I hope you would see this comment, so I did everything, the speedometer is now working, but the fuel gauge is still out, I mean I just refilled, but it still say I'm only at half the gas, can you tell me why?
All gauges are working correctly except the fuel gauge?
Hi, so I just rip it out and just put the needle back somewhere else, so now it roughly show the fuel level which should be acceptable, but the one not working properly at all now is the temperature meter, it is still all over the place. I tried putting it with the needle pointing at cold, at hot, and at the middle, three separate try yet still doesn't work. My car is Buick LeSabre 2004
This repair is for the truck/suv clusters. I'm not sure if the Buick cluster recalibrates itself like the trucks.
MrSubaru1387 ah I see, but still thank you so much friend, I may failed to get the temperature gauge working but at least the speed and fuel is roughly showing what's needed. Many thanks to you friend
If you can access a code tool, you should be able to match the gauge positions to the data from the PCM.
My cluster personal and business miles don't work, can you point me to the right direction?
+Tuco Lopez check the soldering between the display and circuit board. They're known to crack with again and lose connection.
Will do thanks man!!
Where did you get the leds, because mu lights went out
+Jacob Hernig ordered online. Search for smd leds
MrSubaru1387 I know that but like what size did you get them, i know you have to solder
problem facing in Chevrolet captiva 2007 manual, DTC U0073, U0121 and P0500 ,,,,suddenly odometer stops working ,all needles(Temperature, rpm, speed etc.) showing 0 reading , ac stops cooling while blower keep running,reverse gear light stops working and all happen intermittently and all together. Can anybody suggest solution?
good shit
Did everything and when I plugged it in lights work, but the gauges never calibrated, so the needles do not move. What did I do wrong?
+Hal Moore needles don't move at all? Key on or engine running?
Key is on and engine is running
+Hal Moore that's weird... Did you make a good solder joint on all the motor connectors?
so if they are not soldered well, they will not work? Might be the problem.
+Hal Moore correct. Has to make a solid connection.
would this fix a gear shift indicators lighting?
No, gear indicator is a separate module in the cluster. Usually the problem with them are bad solder joints. Visually check the solder joints at the display, if they look good desolder and replace the display. They can be found on eBay.
did everything and worked until i screwed the cluster back in then my gauges stopped working again. Any idea????
+mike schulz hard to say without having hands on it. Pull it back out and look for anything obvious.
+zcamaross09 thx for the quick answer. I cant see anything obvious wrong. Installed new stepper motor twice and every time the some . I connect the wire harness and it works I screw everything together and the 3 repaired gauges stop working. Frustrating...
+mike schulz something must be getting pinched when you screw it down.
whats your tools list for this bro?
9/32 socket for the screws around the cluster, hands to pull the dash cover off, and solder/iron. Just fixed mine.
Much respect on the job well done ... However on minds the odometer numbers wont light up , so I can't navigate thru my settings . Can you point me in the right direction ? P.S. I've already replaced the instrument cluster with a used one & It went out within a month ... Sigh Smh :'(
+Able2tell usually a bad solder joint. Check your board over carefully near the display.
zcamaross09 Roger that ... 10-4 good buddy !
I'm not sure if it's my cluster that is out or what. Sometimes when I start my car none of my gauges work, but when I turn it off and turn if back on it will start working, been doing it for the last few weeks? Should I just replace cluster anyhow. Someone said something bout ignition thing going out lol. Idk crap bout cars. But after this video on confident I can replace mine lmfao. Who needs a man!
Glad that you enjoyed the video. There may be a short somewhere in the power supply to the cluster. This would explain why it is either working, or dead, and no in between.
MrSubaru1387 how would I figure if that's the problem, and if it is, how would u fix it. Now really wanting to take it somewhere to get it looked at, it's a escalade so parts are already gonna be out the roof. Lol we just replaced the water pump and gear box lol feel like once u fix something, a new problem pops up!!!
Unfortunately, without electrical diagnostic skills/tools, it's pretty much impossible for you to test the cluster.
MrSubaru1387 bumming me out, but guess I'll have it checked out. Thank you very much for your replays and and advice! I appreciate it. Gonna subscribe!
Glad to be of service. Sorry I couldn't provide a simply solution.
What I would do is put tape behind the needles and mark with a pin where you needles were.
Where did u get the LEDs?
+Mario Maguellal Martinez Newark.com
MrSubaru1387 should’ve made a video on how to install them
+Mario Maguellal Martinez yea, I should've. Maybe one day.
What's the scanner for ?
+SuperFlash75 just to double check sensor data to gauge readings.
I replace the stepper motors and even the lights to leds, looks great but all my needles are off except the battery one
Si now what??!!
gustavo Beltran you put all the needles to the zero mark on assembly? Zero mark meaning all to the leftmost position? Key on, no start, and then back off, do they all park themselves to the left?
MrSubaru1387 yeah I put them to the zero mark, plugged but they read wrong
Working on it right now as you say, key on no start I hope it works
Odd. To correct it, accurately, you'll need to get access to a scan tool with live data. You'll have to remove and reinstall the gauge needles to correlate to the data the ecu outputs.
I think it’s worth to point out something I noticed, all of them work except rpm and oil pressure I tried many resets but those two stayed off they don’t even move, frustrated I replaced the rpms with a used one one that’s was on the speedometer before, plugged in and it worked but after putting everything together it stop working 🤔🤔🤔 so, i think it has to be a short circuit which o doubt it, the steeper motor was going to go bad and it did right at that moment or i broke the new stepper motor myself, here I like you to helped me out and confirm if I’m right, I said I broke it cause once plugged I moved the Rpms needle and the oil pressure to the zero mark and looking at videos you move the needles unplugged
I hope I make sense on what I’m saying and hope you can give me some advice
part #?
can you drive your truck with the cluster out.
As far as I know you can.
You can just make sure you know how much gas you have and try not to speed
River Rat nah. Not legally. It’s a felony I think if the mileage is tampered with or manipulated any way shape or form.
Be very careful doing this. Video makes it look easy to remove pointers but it is not!! I broke several of them prying them off because they are on so tight. Now I have to get that problem fixed too.
Can I send you my cluster for u can do the led and fix it? Lol
Same as an avalanche?
+Gabriel Chacon yes
My 04 Avalanche is doing this, I smack it with my fist just to get it to come on lol, will need to do something like this or chop up $100 for new one at oriellys
Good video!!! But it's creeps me out, you don't say a word the whole time
Sorry. Lol no one would want to hear my voice. I assure you that.
The cluster DOES NOT have to be reset! Dealerships just trying to make money!
Dude Chevy gauges automatically calibrate
you sure?
The only thing to worry about is keeping your mileage calculated... the Cluster is the only place it's stored.
+Terry Ingle yup. True, if you completely replaced it.
oil pressure shows 80 u did something wrong bro?!
+logicweapon logicweapon nope. The truck had a bad oil pressure sensor.
hmmm looks like your oil pressure guage is not reading correctly
+Jonathan Oakley truck has a bad oil pressure switch.
+Jonathan Oakley had*
Oh ok that makes sense lol i just did this with my cluster a few days ago.
Gas tow lean Bank 1
Gm and itd awful oil pressure sending unit lol
thanks for the info....nice vid
+Javier Pinedo glad to help
if a cluster is bad will it not work and cause truck motor to start and shut off?
+Steven Helm no
OK my cluster is not working and truck won't stay running longer than 1 second