The Reason Storm DID NOT Want to Help the Odinson in Immortal Thor #4

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  • In today's video let's talk about the reason Storm did not want to help the Odinson in Immortal Thor #4, and why a villain from Thor's recent past is making the jump from Immortal Hulk to face off with the Immortal Thor.
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Комментарии • 162

  • @justthevoicebackup280
    @justthevoicebackup280 9 месяцев назад +78

    Storm has definitely been GOATED in this Krakoan era... She's been confirmed Omega Level, Goddess, Sorceress, Regent of Sol and Head of Arrako. Her very best era!

    • @vginsprdsobepr9698
      @vginsprdsobepr9698 9 месяцев назад +4

      #FreeStormFromWakanda was a huge success.

    • @shakeemdiggz2354
      @shakeemdiggz2354 9 месяцев назад +8

      Agreed. Hopefully this will be a long run, of her on Arakko. New team members, villains all new interesting characters.

    • @ampocalypsew3883
      @ampocalypsew3883 9 месяцев назад +6

      She actually been an omega lvl with different writers and comics stated it, b4 JH announced it. It's just a lot of haters or racist ppl didn't want to believe someone who can control the weather can match someone like Magneto or Jean. Heck Blk Panthers run have shown her doing godly shit, including doing some extent of magic

    • @peterjaketalkswrasslin6920
      @peterjaketalkswrasslin6920 9 месяцев назад +1

      Had DOOM all like, “whaddup, homey… let’s be friends!”

    • @uxm4life94
      @uxm4life94 9 месяцев назад +3

      Storm was already the GOAT decades ago when she led the X-men for decades. It is only modern Marvel who chose to rewrite their own history by marginalising their diverse characters and defaming the old fans so they could pretend Marvel is all about the movie characters (Avengers)

  • @ampocalypsew3883
    @ampocalypsew3883 9 месяцев назад +15

    Im loving storm getting more love and respect

  • @darrius3022
    @darrius3022 9 месяцев назад +13

    I think the moment she was taken from was X-men Red 16, when Roberto and Fisher King were fighting and asked where Storm was and suddenly she came flying back in and took out the Horseman of Apocalypse. Also Thor can Defeat or kill Storm if needed but Storm can defeat(Not necessarily Kill) Thor if she needs to as the comic mentioned. Difference isn't Power or access to mystics, it their need and strength, durability and magic knowledge. Which people forget Thor is incredibly skilled at magic he uses it for his powers. I always feel that gets skipped over when people talk about most powerful magic users. Thor is by default among the top of the list he juat doesn't do things like reality warping, psychic powers, time manipulation etc that's more Loki's thing, whose more traditional in his magic use.

    • @bajansamurai
      @bajansamurai 9 месяцев назад +1

      If not from that point in the story, from sometime else similar. Definitely before rolling up with her Gundam Island, Kaorak.

    • @monteroprince7672
      @monteroprince7672 9 месяцев назад +2

      She did come back after saying she was waylaid from battle. Especially showing up with a red cap very similar to thor’s.

  • @babytoshiro7014
    @babytoshiro7014 9 месяцев назад +7

    Whoever is writing and drawing Storm is doing a great great job🙄🤤🤤🤤🤤

  • @Optimustron7125
    @Optimustron7125 9 месяцев назад +3

    I loved this issue Storm is really been going off these last two years

  • @crispri3919
    @crispri3919 9 месяцев назад +3

    That... is actually super impressive showing for storm lol.

  • @OkamiSatsujin
    @OkamiSatsujin 9 месяцев назад +13

    Does this mean Thor summoned Storm before Apocalypse turned her into an Elemental basically?
    In regards to how she reacted to Thor though? You ever get in a woman's way when she's already fighting? You quickly become her target lol. This was a great issue. Beta Ray Bill looks good and is a nice return to form. It almost made me think of the time The Hammer (not spelling it) fell through dimensions and Dr. Doom, who was dead at the time, caught hold of the end of it and it pulled him back in to the land of the living. The Hammer isn't even Thor's to wield, it is it's own thing now. Unless I missed something?
    Edit: I Probably did miss a lot come to think of it, but if I did, help me out and point me in the right direction. lol

    • @darrius3022
      @darrius3022 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, I think this is moments before she fought Pestilence and War in XMR 16, Roberto and Fisher were looking for Storm

    • @OkamiSatsujin
      @OkamiSatsujin 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@darrius3022 😯 oh snap! Ok, ok. That makes sense. And when's the next X-Men Red come out? Lol.

    • @darrius3022
      @darrius3022 9 месяцев назад +2

      @brandoncoger1262 16 & 17 are already out. 18 the last one is next month. After that R.O.M. starts

    • @redpapi3541
      @redpapi3541 9 месяцев назад +1

      He didn't turn her into elemental so to speak. I was more like a magic spell and Storm being the host of that spell but needed ingredients. Apocalypse and the others were the ingredients because Ororo's magical ability that is in her blood is far greater. Think of it as a witch at her cauldron applying ingredients for a magical potion. She conjures the ingredients before intaking them all herself. Kind of what happened with Storm here so to speak. Apocalypse just supplied what she needed but assisted with the magic to help the witch lol. Apocalypse know all to well what is in Storm. He witnessed her ancestor Ayesha.

    • @OkamiSatsujin
      @OkamiSatsujin 9 месяцев назад

      @@redpapi3541 I got that part, just shortened it up. Still, when does this take place in the X-Men Red timeline? I checked 15,16,&17 lol.

  • @brianm.k.8008
    @brianm.k.8008 9 месяцев назад +6

    I love Storm content

  • @midnightkale8621
    @midnightkale8621 9 месяцев назад +10

    The fact that Thor figured out of much time everyone has to be Thor themselves really shows the wisdom of Thor has gained from the previous storyline to now is phenomenal and amazing. Al Ewing has become one of my favorite writers during this comic book era.

  • @joeblue9691
    @joeblue9691 9 месяцев назад +7

    I like this story arc. It’s refreshing and definitely a nice break from the Ragnarok cycle Thor books periodically go through. We are getting character growth and a forward trajectory.

  • @meld1391
    @meld1391 9 месяцев назад +20

    I hate that whenever Storm is mentioned with Thor, it’s like … “he can kill her if he wants to.” so what? She can, hands down, put up a fight. The disrespect her character always gets. Look how long it took them to give her the title omega-level mutant. And when it’s time for her to show off, they make someone give her a power-up or unlock her abilities.
    Meanwhile, her temper made her become a rogue storm, and the black vortex mirror showed her as a goddess. She used magic in the Scarlet Witch series… and as soon as she shows up in Thor, everybody wants Thor to stomp her. Meanwhile, she can freeze him or stop him from breathing. I wish they let him strike her with lightning so she can say it doesn’t hurt her, either.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 9 месяцев назад +2

      Thor does not need air.

    • @meld1391
      @meld1391 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@omarscarborough4274 that's all you read? I get it. He's strong. I just dislike the comparisons and the disrespect for storm when it comes to him. But that's why I like the way this comic was written. It's respectful. But the Thor fans aren't.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@meld1391 Thor is a Skyfather. His mother is the Elder God Jord/Gaea and his father is Odin whose power he recently inherited. Thor can tap into the Phoenix Force. He can tap into the Power Cosmic without the permission of Galactus. Storm's power does not compare to Thor's.

    • @lekawana
      @lekawana 9 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠​⁠@@omarscarborough4274Both Storm and Thor have ties to Elder gods, Storm is just younger and less experienced, especially magically as Ewing pointed out “Not yet”. Storm at her fullest in her mutant power alone would rival the Phoenix.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@lekawana Storm can equal the Phoenix Force?

  • @fjardim14
    @fjardim14 9 месяцев назад +4

    Is Storm's aesir armor the same from the Asgardian Wars from waaay back when Loki tried to install her as goddess of thunder? Holy crap.

    • @gullytheharbinger8619
      @gullytheharbinger8619 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! She’s had a few versions of the Æsir armor now, but this one is supposed to be a direct nod to the og armor

  • @walkerdark6012
    @walkerdark6012 8 месяцев назад

    Thor has definitely grown in maturity. Back in the day, just the first attack Storm delivered would have caused him to retaliate. I haven’t read comics in a while, only getting caught up here and there. Your coverage is fantastic. Thanks man! Keep doing what you do. Peace!

  • @4eyes2killingyou
    @4eyes2killingyou 9 месяцев назад +7

    Well yeah. Storm had better things to do until Toranos showed up lmao

  • @Destrudo5359
    @Destrudo5359 9 месяцев назад +3

    LETS GOO DARIO AGGOR IS BACCKKkK

  • @user-pr8gx3vb9h
    @user-pr8gx3vb9h 9 месяцев назад +2

    Al Ewing has given the plot points here enough gravitas especially with what loki had told Thor during this run.

  • @rockinalice4034
    @rockinalice4034 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thor forgets that he is also the God of Strength an a few other things but the Strength bit would likely be useful in this fight

  • @striderreborn1467
    @striderreborn1467 9 месяцев назад +1

    That was beyond Monstrosity, I was thinking "Cronenberg". lol

  • @fendisaintlaurent4257
    @fendisaintlaurent4257 9 месяцев назад +1

    Them turning Loki into a transmission is something that needs to stop ASAP.

  • @afro_princess1671
    @afro_princess1671 9 месяцев назад +8

    I am surprised on how u downplayed Storm here but alright

    • @golgoatha1642
      @golgoatha1642 9 месяцев назад +1

      The fight by itself really could be a whole separate video. Not necessarily the actual FIGHT but the dialog spoken between them.

    • @afro_princess1671
      @afro_princess1671 9 месяцев назад

      @@golgoatha1642 I don't think that was a fight

  • @flatbushmafia
    @flatbushmafia 9 месяцев назад +4

    So wait a minute does that mean when she goes back to Arroko she may have a power up against Genesys? Also they are passing the hammer like they pass the sticky icky 😅

    • @montmcdonald333
      @montmcdonald333 9 месяцев назад +2

      Doubtful due to it only lasts 60 seconds

  • @witchivy5905
    @witchivy5905 9 месяцев назад +2

    Storm is legit the best Xmen no countrr arguements will be accepted

  • @igetthatgoodjugg
    @igetthatgoodjugg 9 месяцев назад +18

    Ewing made it very clear that she affected him with lightning and hurt him with pressure. Thor said in this issue that lightning is his friend just as it is hers and it will not choose to hurt either of them under their control. The pressure she used made him bleed and almost broke his back. Mind you, she was not trying to actually break him, but force him to send her back.
    Ewing is putting respect on Storm's name by allowing her to stand on her own. Thor is no different than any other character she's come across. He may be the god of thunder in marvel, but she is not under him like foster or beta ray. Storm is not an avatar of Thor's. That's why I hate this whole Thor Corp crap. I hate she ever got that stupid Storm caster hammer because the misconception that she is under him or subservient to his power is unnecessarily prevalent.

    • @supreme1stson488
      @supreme1stson488 9 месяцев назад +3

      Well said

    • @ZeeB...
      @ZeeB... 9 месяцев назад +2

      Just wanted to add that she also said that she didn't need Thor and that she could use her own powers.

    • @smancharlie
      @smancharlie 9 месяцев назад +1

      It ain't that serious.

    • @igetthatgoodjugg
      @igetthatgoodjugg 9 месяцев назад

      @@smancharlie then why are you whining under my comment? That's a rhetorical question, btw. My comment got you so caught up in your feelings that you couldn't resist crying about seriousness. My COMMENT engaging with a video that encourages conversation in the COMMENTS SECTION, got you so emotionally unhinged that you bitterly lashed out.
      The comments section is for discourse between people. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you're incapable of reading or comprehending comic books beyond elementary school understanding of material, so you only listen to others to tell you what you should have gotten out of it. If not that, you simply hate when others don't agree with you and your feculent take on the material. Or you just might be a Thor fanboy or a Blerd stalker(mad because I challenged his depiction of the material here). Either way, it explains why you're crying under my comment.

    • @tahan9323
      @tahan9323 9 месяцев назад +2

      I think your interpretation of the events is slightly off. How could the pressure of Jupiter almost break his back when he has survived and thrived through much worse? It's mid storytelling and hyperbolic.

  • @jairogers5876
    @jairogers5876 9 месяцев назад +5

    Storm controls way more than Thunder and Lightning.

    • @rickytorres4213
      @rickytorres4213 9 месяцев назад

      But Thor gave her a strength boost... Does the boost all her powers further?

    • @golgoatha1642
      @golgoatha1642 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@rickytorres4213 No. Al made it plain when Storm said "I don't need the hammer to call down Thunder". The only thing the hammer is allowing her to do is tank a hit.

    • @jairogers5876
      @jairogers5876 9 месяцев назад

      @@rickytorres4213 she didnt need it though.

  • @vontheunknown7982
    @vontheunknown7982 9 месяцев назад +8

    Did you guys know that marvel comic Thor and Loki have a third brother named Baldur?

    • @waynebaker5720
      @waynebaker5720 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yea,
      He's big af. ..

    • @Mr420prophet
      @Mr420prophet 9 месяцев назад +1

      The forgotten but much beloved brother

    • @vontheunknown7982
      @vontheunknown7982 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@waynebaker5720 Strange never see him in a while, they may just retcon Baldur somehow?

    • @blusterya6540
      @blusterya6540 9 месяцев назад +3

      He had his own comic with Marvel baby....Baldur the Brave in the late 80's

    • @vontheunknown7982
      @vontheunknown7982 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@blusterya6540 We never saw him again after that

  • @peterjonesdelacruz
    @peterjonesdelacruz 9 месяцев назад +19

    Some Thor fans are mad that Storm could actually hurt him. Well, Storm can. While Thor is much stronger and durable, Storm has more tricks up her sleeve.

    • @tahan9323
      @tahan9323 9 месяцев назад +4

      Umm..., no! Storm is not even remotely as versatile as Thor.

    • @bajansamurai
      @bajansamurai 9 месяцев назад +6

      They're versatile in different ways, and those differences allow the to hurt each other. It doesn't dictate she can beat him most of the time, but they can hurt each other with their non-lightning abilities.

    • @afro_princess1671
      @afro_princess1671 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@tahan9323wanna bet?

    • @afro_princess1671
      @afro_princess1671 9 месяцев назад +3

      This is not Thor, this is Thor with the Odin Force. Big difference

    • @Alex-jd2yx
      @Alex-jd2yx 9 месяцев назад

      @@afro_princess1671Storm also is using her magic abilities but also I’m pretty sure storm is using apocalypse force too atm

  • @jackieanderson9408
    @jackieanderson9408 9 месяцев назад +1

    This was sweet 🎂

  • @josh24214
    @josh24214 9 месяцев назад

    I can't imagine the pain that Dario is going through after getting into a "Cronenburg" meat grinder and now going through his Arkham Scarecrow look. Like always I love your videos Blerd.❤

  • @dwonelittle3658
    @dwonelittle3658 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love this for the goddess

  • @BlackHart730
    @BlackHart730 9 месяцев назад +3

    So Odinson going to Arakko to help Storm

    • @bajansamurai
      @bajansamurai 9 месяцев назад +3

      Nope. Pretty sure it'll work out in a way that he's made unavailable before the events of X-Men Red when Apocalypse using her in his elemental spell to raise Kaorak.
      This Toranos story may play out in such a way that Thor and Loki (and maybe Bill and Jane too) have to deal with a related or root problem, and they "trouble Storm no more" by letting her return to aid her people on Arakko before they get caught up in this next thing too big for them to ignore by going to her aid.

  • @nicholasgrady7387
    @nicholasgrady7387 9 месяцев назад

    Ion like how u said that first lighting strike didn't phase Thor at all u can clearly see a WHOLE TEAR in dat man eye

  • @patd9850
    @patd9850 9 месяцев назад +1

    Considering all the enemies against mutants. It never gets surprising!?! When mutants wanna go kill each other. Shit! Orchis doesn’t have kill Mutant. Just let them kill each other. I recall when onslaught had snap. When he scammed the X-Men aka Nate Grays mind. Just find out mutants have a whole world to themselves. Yet they annihilated each other. Instead of killing each. It would make more sense to deal with then enemies. As whoever wins this war on mars. Literally will be screwed. Left open to attack by their enemies. Nimrod jumped in on mars. Everyone is dead, including Storm.

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 9 месяцев назад +1

    Modern Marvel coming up with plot elements that allow them to completely rewrite all continuity to match their own ignorance? Well I guess it doesn't get more meta than that!

  • @redrei9
    @redrei9 9 месяцев назад

    Thor should be able to wind time back too for Storm

  • @teddygramz9242
    @teddygramz9242 9 месяцев назад +3

    Has Thor ever helped the Mutants?🤔🤷

    • @bajansamurai
      @bajansamurai 9 месяцев назад +2

      In Immortal Thor #1 he descended on some Orchis soldiers and rescued a bunch of mutants, and in AXE Judgement Day he was part of the Avengers team who fought to defend Krakoa before being redeployed.

    • @montmcdonald333
      @montmcdonald333 9 месяцев назад +2

      He actually helped during the first Muntant Massacre. He saved Angel's life when he was literally crucified by the Marrauders.

    • @mle6501
      @mle6501 9 месяцев назад

      he’s too busy with his hair, drinking and “I’m a god mutterings”

  • @terrenced7742
    @terrenced7742 9 месяцев назад +2

    In terms of meta-commentary, I loved how Thor told Storm that people will always ask who's stronger, or if he can arm wrestle the Hulk, or run as fast as Quicksilver, and the answer was that his strength is relative to the need for it in any task. "I can stand ANYTHING if the need is great and the cause is just." This was essentially Thor winking at the camera and telling us, the readers, that he'll always have whatever level of strength, speed, or skills are needed to come out on top because that's what the story will require. "Stop arguing fanboys, it's whatever the writers want." Lol. As I've always said, yes, Superman beat Thor in Avengers vs JLA, but that'll only stand until another writer comes along and decides to make Thor win, so who really cares at the end of the day? Lol

  • @natelegay
    @natelegay 9 месяцев назад +1

    There are 2 hammers.

  • @5StarFunk
    @5StarFunk 9 месяцев назад +1

    Can someone answer this for me? Since Beta Ray Bill doesn't have his hammer, why didn't he transform back to his humanoid form? He should not look like his Beta Ray Thor form without his hammer, so why is he able to retain this form?

    • @bajansamurai
      @bajansamurai 9 месяцев назад +1

      Beta Ray Bill is an alien whose original form looks like that, then gets more equine when powered up. They did once put him in an Earth human form, but he was restored between then and now.

    • @uptowndadeboi7925
      @uptowndadeboi7925 9 месяцев назад +1

      Surtur sword I think

  • @DCPatrol
    @DCPatrol 9 месяцев назад

    I appreciate your videos. This is much more enjoyable than reading Immortal Thor. It wad gibberish to me to I dropped it. I'll just watch your videos instead. 😉 😂

  • @fendisaintlaurent4257
    @fendisaintlaurent4257 9 месяцев назад

    He can't control Mjolnir because it is a sentient storm.

  • @user-xi8hw3hc7v
    @user-xi8hw3hc7v 9 месяцев назад +1

    Well it's a good thing Thor made the new hammer on the last issue, and mentioned making two more... That gives basically everyone a hammer if need be

  • @007esquire
    @007esquire 9 месяцев назад +3

    How dope would it have been if Storm still had Uranos to unleash for this fight?!

  • @vginsprdsobepr9698
    @vginsprdsobepr9698 9 месяцев назад

    Blerdtard - Someone who presents the ideas of others as his own.

  • @dhanellis5807
    @dhanellis5807 9 месяцев назад

    Sorry Did I miss something?
    Isn't Odin in the Hammer, Instead of The Cosmic Mother Storm?

    • @bajansamurai
      @bajansamurai 9 месяцев назад +1

      You may have missed a lot. An Arc played out where Odin eventually got to move on from inhabiting Mjolnir.
      Heck, it's even unclear if the true Mother Storm is even still in Mjolnir since she got free in the sun at one point and merged with the essence of Mangog, and tried to off Thor.

  • @jackieanderson9408
    @jackieanderson9408 9 месяцев назад +1

    I don't care for Loki's new look. 😊

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 9 месяцев назад

    Taranis is NOT an elder God or part of the AsgardIan pantheon! He is part of the Celtic (Tuatha de Dannan) pantheon. Same guy, appearance, powers and wheel. He has already been depicted in both Doctor Strange and Black Knight comics in stories that are completely contradicted by what is happening. Modern Marvel know nothing about their own lore or Norse and Celtic mythology

  • @mle6501
    @mle6501 9 месяцев назад +7

    you totally downplayed and downright disrespected Storm here. She brought Thor to his knees with a snap, no strain, no nose bleed. Like she said, she is weather, Thor is Thunder and Lightning.

  • @aaryanroy8312
    @aaryanroy8312 9 месяцев назад

    I don't think loki is worthy as brb has to hold the mjolnir while loki can use the power of thor but everybody else can use mjolnir individually!!
    Maybe i am wrong...idk

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 9 месяцев назад

    Taranis and Utgard Loki have already been in Marvel continuity- both depicted completely differently. Why can't Marvel hire a single editor that intimately knows their own history so silly mistakes and gaping continuity holes like this stop happening. It's all just unconnected gibberish for last 10 years.

  • @davidshirley4696
    @davidshirley4696 9 месяцев назад

    I gotta better title. Why storm didn’t have any choice in helping Thor.

  • @jeffreypage6598
    @jeffreypage6598 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nobody summons Storm!

  • @fendisaintlaurent4257
    @fendisaintlaurent4257 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thor would body Storm with little effort.

  • @Love_Steven_Q
    @Love_Steven_Q 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thor could never just ‘take down’ THE GODDESS 😒 that’s the whole point of the line “you command the STORM, Thor. I command WEATHER-and not as a king on a throne. I command it as an equal. “Ororo Spoke True.” Outside of brute force and lightning, Thor’s abilities are limited in comparison to what Storm could do so outside of hand to hand, this goes to Storm easily.

    • @omarscarborough4274
      @omarscarborough4274 9 месяцев назад +1

      How can a Skyfather who is the son of Odin and Jord/Gaea aka Earth be limited ?

  • @simonthabang3342
    @simonthabang3342 9 месяцев назад

    Unsubscribed...and resubscribed

  • @fendisaintlaurent4257
    @fendisaintlaurent4257 9 месяцев назад +1

    lol Storm is not a "Goddess" nor is she a sorceress. Storm acted a fool on Thor about helping him but forgot how Thor showed up and showed out for the mutants during the real Mutant Massacre. Thor saved Angels life and countless of Morlocks lives. Thor brought scorched earth to the tunnels and cleaned out all the death that had taken place.

  • @snappa77
    @snappa77 9 месяцев назад

    Thor was basically...: "Hey Storm I know you & your people are in the middle of a genocide, persecution, apartheid and a civil war and I haven't lifted a single FV€KlNG finger to help you or your people but um...ahh....er.... Can you drop EVERYTHING and help my ass like the zillion other times the X-Men have helped us Avengers even though we CONSTANTLY turn a blind eye to the fv¢kery mutantkind go through?"
    The Avengers are NOT allies to mutants. NOT even a little bit.
    How many mutant massacres have we seen through the decades? Where were the Avengers?