Interesting review. I have had a Roadmachine 01 Four since March this year and enjoy it a lot. It was AUS 10k. It does not have th3 integrated cockpit, so after a bike fit the stem was changed from 110 mm to 90 mm and it fits very well. All the cables are hidden. I am 67, typically do about 200+ k a week, usually including at least one 3 hr or longer ride. This bike is more comfortable, faster and stiffer than my Tuscany Litespeed Ti bike, which is saying something . I recently upgraded the wheels to Caden deCadence 49 mm clinchers, and they have improved the the bike’s handling, ease to maintain > 30 km/hr without impacting comfort. Currently running conti 5000 go 25 mm front and 28 mm rear clinches. I have been very happy with this bike, and look forward to every ride. After listening to your review, I might now take it out on some gravel and see how I go.
Hi.. I just have RM 01 three, I agree this bike is very comfortable. but for "fast", I'm still learning it. Usually I use an alloy frame, 50mm carbon wheel, and hub ceramic bearing from the superteam. Holding the speed at 40 km/h is not difficult. But now I'm really struggling, I need a lot of power to hold at 40 km/h. The bike is comfortable at 36km/h, but over 40km/h is very hard. Can you help with your experience? Tq
Hi there, I am 68 now, still enjoying the bike a great deal, the only way I can hold 40 km + for any length of time on my own these days is downhill with a tail wind 😁
BMC and the other manufactures know that very few folks will buy this 12k bike. They hope the bike will give them ‘high end’ face time so their lower priced bikes will get our attention. I worked in the high end audio industry and I knew a 50k turntable was built too show case the much lower models in the under 10k range.......very few of the 50k sold world wide but their lower models had a waiting list to buy..... it works.
Interesting seeing this video after hearing James, Dave and Zach rant about the issues with internal cable routing after the SL7 recall on Nerd Alert. This video is a great example of how the bike media is part of the problem. One of the first statements is about how clean the aesthetic of the integrated cockpit is. Wonder how this bike would fare after 5 years of riding on rough trails.
It's not just the cycling media. A lot of the comments on the TCR vs Tarmac videos were about how the TCR doesn't have a full integrated cockpit in 2021 and how that makes it look ugly. Personally I think the TCR has both a modern as well as a timeless look all the while being way easier to work on. Unfortunately, it's a near certainty that Giant will move to an integrated cockpit for the next iteration with so much being made of external cables.
The audacity to charge 12 grand for a bicycle in itself is breathtaking. No matter how many finicky 'real world' improvements they're trying to cram into a bike. The next recall is just around the corner. For every tiny little 'blib' in the complex hydraulics or electronics it's a costly trip or shipping back to the shop. Maybe ok for pro riders. Even pro mechanics are often having a hard time to deal with some of its half baked technology. Building a bike Yourself, then You get what You need and understand Your bike. Yes! There are people who think they are better riders when they get sucked into such a scam. At least the bike looks good in a coffee shop and on phone pics. Ahhh, that BLUE alone is worth 5 grand.
Simple if you don’t want to buy it don’t. To date haven’t had any issues with Di2. In fact it changes gear way better under load than my campy record 10 speed mech on my Litespeed, even after just replacing all the cables …..I do most of my own maintenance and to date on the BMC haven’t had to do anything other than basic lube and chain waxing
The same can be said of cars, watches, suits, televisions, etc, etc. It is as much a luxury good as it is a practical item. There will always be a market for it. 98% of cycling is getting out there & how you feel. If owning something like this is what people choose to do with their money & gets them out on the road, then it's worth it to them.
I was going to make a long ass comment related to the price.....but, in the end, this is a bike that's not made for me. Full stop. There is a group of people out there for whom $12k is chump change, and that's who BMC are talking to. So, average Joe's don't really need to say anything about this, we're not part of the discussion.
Yep…I’ve been involved in cycling long enough that I can’t really get my head around the fact that $2500 now gets you a “starter bike” rather than a top-of-the-line, custom, pro-quality machine! But, I’ve slowly come to the conclusion that for a certain segment of society, spending $1000 is like me spending $10! And that’s a big part of why there are outrageously priced bikes like this one!
Hank Schrader I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but 20 years ago (not all that long ago to some of us!) you could get a pro-quality bike for $2500 (or less!). Don't tell me inflation alone now makes a "pro" bike cost almost 5 times that!
Inflation is a minor player in how these products are priced. These businesses are here to make money, not to provide charity services. Price rises due to "inflation" alone implies a certain degree of fairness towards the consumer, which is a complete fantasy.
I have this bike in the 02/Force form and I love it. To compare it to my Canyon Aeroad would be silly. It's a really nice all day rider when you just want to ride tempo or mix and match between gravel and road. It wouldn't be my only bike as I still love to get out on a good race bike and carve tarmac, but it is a nice addition to the stable.
Similar situation to mine. I have both the Team Machine 01 and an Aeroad… love them both for their purpose! Only makes sense to have such a setup (plus a CX bike) because I ride over 15,000km per year though….
I think regardless of this video's conclusion (i'm like 10 secs in as i'm typing) i hope we all agree that BMC needs to radically change how it names its bikes because their current convention is unbelievably clunky
The gravel and dirt must be much smoother out there than it is here. For me this is an endurance road bike not a multi-surface bike. Also - the Salsa Warrbird and Raleigh Tamland 2 came out in 2014 - much wider clearance than that. This bike seems to slide solidly between two worlds making it a very expensive bike that I wouldn't reach for that often...
You discuss the very expensive price of this bike but didn’t mention that the BMC comes in an 02 model with the same riding characteristics at a small weight gain and easier adjustment of the stem height and length. Just my two cents
I have a 2021 Roadmachine 01 three (Force). I have upgraded the force chainset to a Red 48/35 from the stock 46/33 which is too small, and the cassette to 10-28 as I just wanted a more efficient drive and never used the huge range on the rear 10-36. Had to buy a small topcone from BMC to lower the stem too, which I found annoying. other than that it's a great mile muncher but it can still go fast.
This is just the evolution of the original 2017 Roadmachine, which itself is an evolution of the BMC Granfondo. Nothing about this bike is gravel-bike or multisurface: it's an road endurance bike with a more sporty/aggresive leaning that can *barely* take 33mm tyres. BMC refreshed it in 2021 with *marginally* wider tyre clearance, a taller/shorter geometry tweak, and, uh, that's it. Calling this a multisurface bike is just saving design budget by me-tooing it more sensible edurance bikes from other manufacturers: at least those will swallow 38-40mm tyres.
If you can fit 35s, and it's slightly more stable than your average endurance bike, then you can ride it on gravel. There's nothing else to it. They aren't claiming that it's a mountain bike.
@@sabamacxI have the 2017 model and tried 32 mm and it worked. I went down to 30 mm though. As this is a newer model with slightly more tire clearance I have no doubt that a 32 mm fits well otherwise I don’t know where the more tire clearance claim comes from.
I own the 2019 version with Force, DT swiss ERC 1400 wheels, PM and seperate handlebar/ stem for about half the price. Also very blue. I love my bike and run it 28mm Conti GP 5000. Don't understand, why BMC went the way of less adaptability. I am quite tall with shorter arms, why I choosed a smaller frame I would normally do, as it is quite long for an endurance bike. Good to know, that I don't have to upgrade. Nobody should spend 12k for a bike, where you have to exchange the crankset to upgrade to a PM. With my not exactly cheap Force model, the additional investment was quite reasonable though.
I've bought a 2022 BMC Roadmachine 01 five two weeks ago. The black bicycle is wonderful but a few days after receiving it I've noticed two areas in the chainstay without peinture. Black bike on black carbon you notice it clearly in the sun. When activated the warranty BMC said it would not accept the claim as this is normal (??) Really frustrating to pay US 7500 in a defective product and have the vendor treating you as if you were stupid.
I don’t know why you belabor the long arm/short cockpit thing when you would just size up given your forward center of gravity. Just say it was small for you.
@@adamjd7645 sound logic adam. how could i possibly complain about something when you can so deftly point to the problem and even quantify it for me. ~how can you say its overprice when it has a price tag right here? duuurrrrr~ bikes have wheels and group sets adam... and you are demonstrating why they can get away with absurd markups.
@@lbdeuce Way to miss the point. You just sound salty you can't afford luxury products. 🤷♂️ Oh, and you happily delve into the realms of subjectivity by saying it "looks" like a $2500 bike. But then get pissy when I highlight we're talking value not cost which is also subjective. The actual sticker price doesn't mean anything if someone still believe that price represents value to them.
I got the Roadmachine 105 , upgraded wheels, stem, handlebar,saddle , semi integrated cables, weight 7.6kg. Still fast Asf Why need to spend $12000 just for weight saving and fully integrated cables?
what if I already have twitchy rim brake race bikes and want something a little different. i'd say this bike hits the mark. pretty sure this bike will do fine with us fitter happier folks too that want to take it on longer rides.
Integrated bar/stem/cables..... yawn. It's a case of form over function and not for me. Nice colour, but thankfully BMC also make a Roadmachine without the BS cabling at a more realistic pricepoint.
I am worried about Outside front line staff. It seems like everyone needs to drink all the time. the BETA crew is real bad and seems to drink after every review too - are bikes that bad?
It's the Sierra Nevada sponsorship. It would be actually hysterical if the contract stipulates they have to be holding a beer can awkwardly for the entire talk-to-camera segment though!
These days it seems like almost every brand is expensive. High end bikes of bigger brands like Specialized and Trek are arguably no better value than this is.
True, but then you have a Motor dirt bike and not a bicycle ;-). There are less expensive options available from BMC and to be honest... if I had billions on my account, I would not care about 12k :)
@@wamote6867 it may be interesting to see what unlimited funds can justify purchasing. In the real world I can buy a very nice 3 to 4 k bicycle and have enough left over to buy gravel bike and a full suspension mountain bike; oh wait, that’s what I did. Now I have all bases covered, 🍻
Can we please stop calling dropped seatstays "aero" and "lighter"? It's not aero and it's not lighter. Funny enough, it's also not more compliant. It's an aesthetic move. And that's fine. But we need to stop saying there's another reason for it than looking cool.
12k for a bicycle? How come? Please explain how a road bike can cost 12k and a motorcycle lets say 14k. Surely motorcycle has more engineering, electronics,moving parts etc...
I reviewed this bike well before the drama with internal cable routing issues (at least the most recent issues), so that's why it's not mentioned in the review. Just FYI. (This is Dan from the video, by the way.)
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Wow, it's my $3500 Giant Defy but with a eyewatering price tag.
yeah and 3500 is still an eye watering amount of money. puts it into perspective
Also thought about defy and power meter deal
Sounds like a bunch of broke dossers!
Good one.
@@pht1174 tf you on about? Apparently not having 12 grand to drop on a bicycle makes you a broke dosser 😂
Interesting review. I have had a Roadmachine 01 Four since March this year and enjoy it a lot. It was AUS 10k. It does not have th3 integrated cockpit, so after a bike fit the stem was changed from 110 mm to 90 mm and it fits very well. All the cables are hidden. I am 67, typically do about 200+ k a week, usually including at least one 3 hr or longer ride. This bike is more comfortable, faster and stiffer than my Tuscany Litespeed Ti bike, which is saying something . I recently upgraded the wheels to Caden deCadence 49 mm clinchers, and they have improved the the bike’s handling, ease to maintain > 30 km/hr without impacting comfort. Currently running conti 5000 go 25 mm front and 28 mm rear clinches. I have been very happy with this bike, and look forward to every ride.
After listening to your review, I might now take it out on some gravel and see how I go.
i actually have this bike it is very nice but am looking to sale im open to offers
Hi.. I just have RM 01 three, I agree this bike is very comfortable. but for "fast", I'm still learning it. Usually I use an alloy frame, 50mm carbon wheel, and hub ceramic bearing from the superteam. Holding the speed at 40 km/h is not difficult. But now I'm really struggling, I need a lot of power to hold at 40 km/h.
The bike is comfortable at 36km/h, but over 40km/h is very hard.
Can you help with your experience? Tq
Hi there, I am 68 now, still enjoying the bike a great deal, the only way I can hold 40 km + for any length of time on my own these days is downhill with a tail wind 😁
@@chapmag6578 where are you in AU? I have the same bike and considering selling it as I would like to get a faster bike
A $12k bike and no power meter? C’mon!
"We are so laid back! gravel? IPA? yeah. Exactly THAT much." That can in hand so forced, doesn't work at all.
Agreed. I think they sponsor the series so they gotta get air time. Feels very try hard gravel tho 😂😂
BMC and the other manufactures know that very few folks will buy this 12k bike. They hope the bike will give them ‘high end’ face time so their lower priced bikes will get our attention. I worked in the high end audio industry and I knew a 50k turntable was built too show case the much lower models in the under 10k range.......very few of the 50k sold world wide but their lower models had a waiting list to buy..... it works.
Interesting seeing this video after hearing James, Dave and Zach rant about the issues with internal cable routing after the SL7 recall on Nerd Alert. This video is a great example of how the bike media is part of the problem. One of the first statements is about how clean the aesthetic of the integrated cockpit is. Wonder how this bike would fare after 5 years of riding on rough trails.
It's not just the cycling media. A lot of the comments on the TCR vs Tarmac videos were about how the TCR doesn't have a full integrated cockpit in 2021 and how that makes it look ugly. Personally I think the TCR has both a modern as well as a timeless look all the while being way easier to work on. Unfortunately, it's a near certainty that Giant will move to an integrated cockpit for the next iteration with so much being made of external cables.
I think a bike can look very clean and you can like it or hate it
This setup is not meant to last 5 years, those days are long gone
Ride a $12500 bike on dirt trails? Nah
The audacity to charge 12 grand for a bicycle in itself is breathtaking. No matter how many finicky 'real world' improvements they're trying to cram into a bike. The next recall is just around the corner. For every tiny little 'blib' in the complex hydraulics or electronics it's a costly trip or shipping back to the shop. Maybe ok for pro riders. Even pro mechanics are often having a hard time to deal with some of its half baked technology. Building a bike Yourself, then You get what You need and understand Your bike.
Yes! There are people who think they are better riders when they get sucked into such a scam. At least the bike looks good in a coffee shop and on phone pics. Ahhh, that BLUE alone is worth 5 grand.
My sentiments EXACTLY... As I have been saying for years CYCLING IS THE NEW GOLF!
Simple if you don’t want to buy it don’t. To date haven’t had any issues with Di2. In fact it changes gear way better under load than my campy record 10 speed mech on my Litespeed, even after just replacing all the cables …..I do most of my own maintenance and to date on the BMC haven’t had to do anything other than basic lube and chain waxing
The same can be said of cars, watches, suits, televisions, etc, etc. It is as much a luxury good as it is a practical item. There will always be a market for it.
98% of cycling is getting out there & how you feel. If owning something like this is what people choose to do with their money & gets them out on the road, then it's worth it to them.
Dear Cycling Tips. Please include KG in any weight description. It saves viewers from stopping the video to do conversions. Thank you
This. CT was started in Australia FFS, it has contributors from around the world, but way to honour the country of origin.
I was going to make a long ass comment related to the price.....but, in the end, this is a bike that's not made for me. Full stop. There is a group of people out there for whom $12k is chump change, and that's who BMC are talking to. So, average Joe's don't really need to say anything about this, we're not part of the discussion.
Those are the facts
Yep…I’ve been involved in cycling long enough that I can’t really get my head around the fact that $2500 now gets you a “starter bike” rather than a top-of-the-line, custom, pro-quality machine! But, I’ve slowly come to the conclusion that for a certain segment of society, spending $1000 is like me spending $10! And that’s a big part of why there are outrageously priced bikes like this one!
@@johns3106 when did get a Top of the line, pro quality bike for 2.5k after adjusting for inflation?
Hank Schrader I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but 20 years ago (not all that long ago to some of us!) you could get a pro-quality bike for $2500 (or less!). Don't tell me inflation alone now makes a "pro" bike cost almost 5 times that!
Inflation is a minor player in how these products are priced. These businesses are here to make money, not to provide charity services. Price rises due to "inflation" alone implies a certain degree of fairness towards the consumer, which is a complete fantasy.
For the next video, let’s make all the trees in the background grow Sierra Nevada cans
I have this bike in the 02/Force form and I love it. To compare it to my Canyon Aeroad would be silly. It's a really nice all day rider when you just want to ride tempo or mix and match between gravel and road. It wouldn't be my only bike as I still love to get out on a good race bike and carve tarmac, but it is a nice addition to the stable.
Similar situation to mine. I have both the Team Machine 01 and an Aeroad… love them both for their purpose! Only makes sense to have such a setup (plus a CX bike) because I ride over 15,000km per year though….
I think regardless of this video's conclusion (i'm like 10 secs in as i'm typing) i hope we all agree that BMC needs to radically change how it names its bikes because their current convention is unbelievably clunky
The gravel and dirt must be much smoother out there than it is here. For me this is an endurance road bike not a multi-surface bike. Also - the Salsa Warrbird and Raleigh Tamland 2 came out in 2014 - much wider clearance than that. This bike seems to slide solidly between two worlds making it a very expensive bike that I wouldn't reach for that often...
I thought you had a beer sponsor, until I realised the microphone was in the can.
Why do you need hidden cables on an endurance bike? Do you need to get to the coffee shop 0.25 seconds faster?
Less likely to scratch the paint, less likely to cause issues etc.
Issues?
@@jaspreetsidhu5708 more likely to cause issues
It looks good. Simple as that.
@@doggdemuro hidden cables. Less likely to snag on things, less likely to scratch the bike, less entry points for dirt and grime to get into the bike.
Why do you have a can in your hand?
You discuss the very expensive price of this bike but didn’t mention that the BMC comes in an 02 model with the same riding characteristics at a small weight gain and easier adjustment of the stem height and length. Just my two cents
I have a 2019 roadmachine 2/2 ultegra mechanical with hydraulic disc. I prefer my 2019 rim brake Domane ultegra way more.
I have a 2021 Roadmachine 01 three (Force). I have upgraded the force chainset to a Red 48/35 from the stock 46/33 which is too small, and the cassette to 10-28 as I just wanted a more efficient drive and never used the huge range on the rear 10-36. Had to buy a small topcone from BMC to lower the stem too, which I found annoying. other than that it's a great mile muncher but it can still go fast.
If you are going to use lbs and miles, can you please give the equivalent in kgs and kms. The vast majority of the world is in metric these days.
@@charliedillon1400 oooft spot the imperial measurement hard boy here
Bikes which cost more then cars and motor bikes are rediculous
* ridiculous *
This is just the evolution of the original 2017 Roadmachine, which itself is an evolution of the BMC Granfondo. Nothing about this bike is gravel-bike or multisurface: it's an road endurance bike with a more sporty/aggresive leaning that can *barely* take 33mm tyres. BMC refreshed it in 2021 with *marginally* wider tyre clearance, a taller/shorter geometry tweak, and, uh, that's it. Calling this a multisurface bike is just saving design budget by me-tooing it more sensible edurance bikes from other manufacturers: at least those will swallow 38-40mm tyres.
If you can fit 35s, and it's slightly more stable than your average endurance bike, then you can ride it on gravel. There's nothing else to it. They aren't claiming that it's a mountain bike.
@@erich8258 30s are realistic max.
if your interested i have this bike forsale open to ideas of trade obo
@@sabamacxI have the 2017 model and tried 32 mm and it worked. I went down to 30 mm though. As this is a newer model with slightly more tire clearance I have no doubt that a 32 mm fits well otherwise I don’t know where the more tire clearance claim comes from.
I own the 2019 version with Force, DT swiss ERC 1400 wheels, PM and seperate handlebar/ stem for about half the price. Also very blue. I love my bike and run it 28mm Conti GP 5000. Don't understand, why BMC went the way of less adaptability. I am quite tall with shorter arms, why I choosed a smaller frame I would normally do, as it is quite long for an endurance bike. Good to know, that I don't have to upgrade. Nobody should spend 12k for a bike, where you have to exchange the crankset to upgrade to a PM. With my not exactly cheap Force model, the additional investment was quite reasonable though.
im open to selling i have this bike the 01 two if your interested im open to offers im flexible
Does the price include the can of drink?
I've bought a 2022 BMC Roadmachine 01 five two weeks ago. The black bicycle is wonderful but a few days after receiving it I've noticed two areas in the chainstay without peinture. Black bike on black carbon you notice it clearly in the sun. When activated the warranty BMC said it would not accept the claim as this is normal (??) Really frustrating to pay US 7500 in a defective product and have the vendor treating you as if you were stupid.
isn't ICS cockpit (stem - 185g??) a bit heavy? (i'm not talking about one piece stem/handlebar)
I don’t know why you belabor the long arm/short cockpit thing when you would just size up given your forward center of gravity. Just say it was small for you.
Didn't Giant actually do the drop seat stays first?
Simple and adequate for the purpose
What do you think about the BMC Roadmachine in comparation with the Specielized Roubaix? Thanks.
Looks like a 2500 dollar bike. I wonder when this market will find its price ceiling. I bought a very nice 2016 bmw 335 for 12.5k.
I'd rather have the bike.
2500 for a bike with red AXS etap? Give me a link already.
Sorry, all that indicates is that you don't know what you're looking at.
The Enve wheels & the Red AXS are $2500 each.
@@adamjd7645 sound logic adam. how could i possibly complain about something when you can so deftly point to the problem and even quantify it for me. ~how can you say its overprice when it has a price tag right here? duuurrrrr~ bikes have wheels and group sets adam... and you are demonstrating why they can get away with absurd markups.
@@lbdeuce Way to miss the point. You just sound salty you can't afford luxury products. 🤷♂️
Oh, and you happily delve into the realms of subjectivity by saying it "looks" like a $2500 bike. But then get pissy when I highlight we're talking value not cost which is also subjective. The actual sticker price doesn't mean anything if someone still believe that price represents value to them.
It may be the right bike for 95% of consumers, but the price doesn't align with 95% of consumers.
I got the Roadmachine 105 , upgraded wheels, stem, handlebar,saddle , semi integrated cables, weight 7.6kg. Still fast Asf Why need to spend $12000 just for weight saving and fully integrated cables?
This bike is about as exciting as new shoes for school
It's like the price is a feature and the manufacturers are competing to have the biggest one....
how did you get yours with the enve wheelset? the BMC site lists this bike with Zipp firecrest.
Oh in 2022 it came in a blue too with enve options interesting
Great review. Appreciated.
What is the difference with a regular Roadmachine except the integrated cockpit?
what if I already have twitchy rim brake race bikes and want something a little different. i'd say this bike hits the mark. pretty sure this bike will do fine with us fitter happier folks too that want to take it on longer rides.
love that blue
Aaaah ! Nothing like riding a $12K bike, offering an aero frame and integrated cables, with an open jersey flapping in the wind !
Integrated bar/stem/cables..... yawn. It's a case of form over function and not for me. Nice colour, but thankfully BMC also make a Roadmachine without the BS cabling at a more realistic pricepoint.
A bicycle at that price is absolutely ludicrous.
12K for 16 pound bike... ouch
on the positive side, the frame looks sharp, thats something i guess
This thing should be about $5000 when compared to a motorcycle value.
What does this bike weigh? 15 lb range??
What is the difference between BMC's naming convention ONE/TWO/THREE/Etc.?
Groupset
12:47 - yup, most people have unlimited budgets. 🙄
Not quite understanding how having longer arms puts you more over the front end of the bike… surely that’s to do with torso length…
Is this a hazy little thing?
"There s one born every minute? PT Barnum
That chimney though.....
I am worried about Outside front line staff. It seems like everyone needs to drink all the time. the BETA crew is real bad and seems to drink after every review too - are bikes that bad?
It's the Sierra Nevada sponsorship. It would be actually hysterical if the contract stipulates they have to be holding a beer can awkwardly for the entire talk-to-camera segment though!
My bike, from an established Chinese brand, is better than this. With powermeter and Di2, for ~$4000 CAD.
Why is this man holding that can?
my height is 175cm is suitable for that frame 54cm?
Yes
Makes the OPEN UP and other boutique brands seem cheap.
These days it seems like almost every brand is expensive. High end bikes of bigger brands like Specialized and Trek are arguably no better value than this is.
in answer to the title question 12k is more than too much
Okay guys... this or the new Cervelo R5 you reviewed previously???
For $12K you may be happier with a Triumph Thruxton.
The bouncing beer can was an annoyance.
pretty sure that's the 01 ONE if it's SRAM red group. 01 TWO is shimano.
Oh is this the 2022 model
12K is ridiculous for a bicycle. I can buy a KTM dirt bike with a motor, suspension, and lights for that price.
True, but then you have a Motor dirt bike and not a bicycle ;-). There are less expensive options available from BMC and to be honest... if I had billions on my account, I would not care about 12k :)
@@wamote6867 it may be interesting to see what unlimited funds can justify purchasing. In the real world I can buy a very nice 3 to 4 k bicycle and have enough left over to buy gravel bike and a full suspension mountain bike; oh wait, that’s what I did. Now I have all bases covered, 🍻
33mm tyres is hardly a do it all machine, that's simply a CX bike
hmm... less toe overlap with that geometry? I have a 51 Teammaschine an tow overlap is not very funny...
Can we please stop calling dropped seatstays "aero" and "lighter"? It's not aero and it's not lighter. Funny enough, it's also not more compliant. It's an aesthetic move. And that's fine. But we need to stop saying there's another reason for it than looking cool.
12k for a bicycle? How come? Please explain how a road bike can cost 12k and a motorcycle lets say 14k. Surely motorcycle has more engineering, electronics,moving parts etc...
No mention of internal cable routing issues Cyclingtips? best keep mum ay!
I reviewed this bike well before the drama with internal cable routing issues (at least the most recent issues), so that's why it's not mentioned in the review. Just FYI. (This is Dan from the video, by the way.)
I look forward to it.
Prices are a bad joke these days.
meh many of us have power meter pedals by now.
the price is too damn high
Stop trying hard
2 hillbillies with can commercial, yak
11:47 8magine being so out of touch with reality that you think the 12k bike buyer "works hard" 🤣🤣🤣
Dentist bike
Actually I am a retired engineer and totally enjoy my BMC. As far as I know my dentist doesn’t cycle :)