The thing with cooling is, if you buy a good air cooler, you will run it for the next couple of CPUs for the next 10+ years. Noctua and other manufacturers did a good job of providing new brackets for coolers bought in the past in the last couple of years.
He knows not the joy or beauty of a custom loop. I too am in the same boat as you. I can justify a 3600 and custom loop that i could 3700 and aio. But i dislike aios anyway 🤣
Without having Ryzen Master, you can figure out your strongest core by looking at the individual core temps in hwinfo. The two lowest under load will be your strongest cores
I see the LTT 1usmus video went from floatplane to RUclips recently, based on these comments. I'd like to see the binning information it has available in bios, that'd be useful (I don't care much for software that has the fun for me, and generally hate installing things at all).
So based on the last portion of the video, stability and importance of workload, currently I have 4.4 @1.2785v as "stable" with 128k FFTs, ran for a few hours no errors. Previously had 4.5 @ 1.2875 and ran it for 2 weeks no issues in daily use until I tried 128k FFTs on Prime and that threw errors, now stuck between leaving at 4.4 or 4.5, just looking for feedback from others. Was using the computer mainly for excel (work) (large datasets and macros) and gaming. Stay at 4.4 or move onto 4.5?
My custom loop has fittings that cost more than a 280 mm EVGA CLC!. But it allows me to run 4.4 GHz all day. Only under extreme loads does it even hit 60° c. Now I'm actually going to try to do a real overclock. This was just a dirty overclock I did to get up and running. My system is a R5 3600 with a ROG B450F gaming motherboard, 32 gigs of course air vengeance pro RGB RAM 3200 megahertz or clock to 3600 megahertz and the previously mentioned custom loop cooler with 600 mm of radiator. Just for the CPU. I used this computer to test older GPUs so the GPU loop was omitted
I've got an i5 4690k at 4.3ghz, 1.25v on a hyper 212 evo lol. I know it's old and I didn't win the "silicon lottery" but I'll take it while waiting on the new Ryzen to release.
After watching your videos, I managed to get my 3700x to 4.25 Ghz @ 1.255 V. For 4.3 Ghz it needs 1.295 V - 1.3 V, but i`m very happy with temps @ 1.255 V (~7C less than 1.3V). Better performance than AUTO @ --10C. (~4050 Mhz @ Auto in Cinebench with 240 water cooler)
Last comment 9 months ago... That's ok.Watched both your videos on overclocking several times. Getting a baseline without oc will help determine your cpu core voltage ⚡ using cinebench .Understanding your ppo limits,and setting this is also key.You want to control these settings based on the CPU running into a current or voltage situation.Finally, understand how the mode settings affect vdroop .Thank you so much bro.Feel confident about dialing in settings now :-)
I think the "fixed OC voltage degradation hype" was related to some bad early batches that should've been RMA'd to begin with h. My 3600 on stock load defaults runs R15 at around 1.35v all core. I've been running 4.4 1.35v daily for 9 months now with no sign of degradation. CPU has seen 1.85v under ln2 as well (5.4ghz r15 run) and absolutely no sign of degradation. I can still push 4.5 with 1.46ish, but since it's a daily driver, it's pointless for the fan noise and possible degradation. Good job as always on the video.
@@shawnpitman876 My 2600 is also running at 1.3-1.4 V, and someone explained that this is not real value, because it is affected by the program that reads it. Anyway, my CPU's temp is normal, everything seems to be OK.
Pumping high voltage through chips has always been a problem. It's not just one single batch. That being said, there is some argument, even among those who know their stuff, what classifies as "high voltage". Some say 1.5 is too high. Others say 1.35 is too high for daily drivers. There is really no hard consensus. One thing is for sure tho, 1.85v under LN2 is not going to be suitable for a daily driver, and would kill your chip if run for more than a couple hours, either through degradation or just plain water damage.
@@shawnpitman876 Quoting : 1.45v is perfectly normal for Ryzen at stock loads, it only boosts to 1.45v under light loads, once you get under heavy loads, it'll drop the voltage to the 1.3xx mark.Dec 30, 2018 Safe voltage for ryzen 5 2600 | Tom's Hardware Forum
New to over clocking and had this mb and chip bundle for a week now. Wraith Stealth is on it's way to the closet as soon as new parts arrive. In the mean time I swapped top case fan from exhaust to intake positioned further back on the case directly over cooler. Avg cpu temp while not under load dropped 5* with same ambient room temp. Almost fell out of my chair.
I'm honestly impressed, here we are over a year after release and this little CPU that often sells for under $150 (well, that changed recently) is still punching above it's weight class. I personally love that it appears pretty much every R5 3600 made is capable of at least a mild all-core OC while being fed an undervolt. I'm not a fan of feeding consistently high voltage to these smaller process node processors as I feel that's where any potential for permanent degradation resides.
@@damdibidum ruclips.net/video/um63-_YPNcA/видео.html Hardware unboxed debunking the myth of power consumption really mattering. The amount it raises your power bill, even in a country with some of the highest costs for electricity is tiny.
@@damdibidum Did you even listen? (No, you clearly didn't) He calculated the cost savings you get on the electricity on a card that draws 70w more than the other one, and it was $10 a year. So yes, he did debunk that you save any substantial amount on your electricity bill by running a more efficient part in your computer. I'd LOVE to see you find a mainstream CPU today that draws significantly more than 70w more than a Ryzen CPU like the 3600 to make it so that those savings are ANY more than what he calculated in that video. If you can't afford $10 a year, you've got some serious problems, and probably shouldn't own a current gen CPU in the first place.
@@damdibidum Also, the only one who's pretentious here is you, thinking that anyone who says something is debunked sounds "moronic", even when they HAVE provided evidence to disprove (or debunk) a belief that people (you) falsely believe. You CANNOT tell me that efficiency matters in some countries due to their lower income, because the amount you save on electricity by running more efficient parts is just not as big as people like you are trying to make it out to be.
@@shawnpitman876 You're right in that the money saved would be negligible, some people want to consume the minimum amount of energy for a unit of performance as possible, not only for eco reasons, but with each watt less you consume, you're creating roughly 3.4 less BTU's of heat, which means yet again less energy to cool both the PC components and the room it's sitting in. In a perfect world, I'd be able to get away with an aggressive overclock with a measurable undervolt without having to disable any power management features whatsoever resulting in performance when I need/want it but also maximum efficiency when I don't need the performance, which honestly is a most closely achieved by running it nearly stock.
Im glad you finally learned how bad the prism cooler is ;) Actually it's not bad at what it's deigned to do which is guarantee your chips advertised on-the-box performance and if you get anything over than that then lucky for you.
So actually I put hands on an Arctic Liquid Freezer (not the II, the older one) for free and I put it on my R5 3600. I ended up with pretty much the same overclock, with the only difference I could use a touch less voltage (I have an MSI X470 Gaming pro max). I see a maximum of 77C under AIDA64 with a silent fan profile, I guess it's kinda okay. Final Vcore was 1.325 V, LLC Mode 6 (it goes down to 1.294/1.3 under heavy load) with CCX0 at 4.325 Ghz and CCX1 at 4.3 Ghz (I'm thinking about backing down CCX0, the gain is almost none). Think I have to be satisfied with this oc, even if I was a bit worried about 7nm degradation, I guess it'll last enough till the next upgrade.
Also about the cooling, I don't exacly know if it's true. You point out that the CPU is hard to cool, but looking at the numbers you'll notice that the bottleneck really isn't the cooler but the CPU itself at this point. You say that you don't know how to cool the Ryzen 3900x and state that due to twice the cores = double cooling needed which isn't exacly true at all. You use a setup without a case and a 280mm AIO, yet the CPU only produces 120watts. 280mm AIO's can cool down Intel CPU's running at 200W+ at similair temps to what you have right now and considering the noctua DH15 performs the same as 280mm AIO's and is rated for 220W it's quite easy to say that the true heat bottleneck here is either the solder used to connect die and the IHS, thermal paste (which i doubt in ur case ) or simply that the way they built the CPU is a little problematic. You see, all 6 cores reside in a small chiplet in the corner of the CPU with another chiplet for all the cache etc, so effectively you're basicially just trying to cool the corner of the AMD CPU as efficiently as possible. However if you go to the 3900x in comparison, you'll see AMD split the CPU in 3 chiplets instead of 2, 1 for the cache etc. and 2 having 6 cores each, making the surface area much larger, considering the cores are probably better binned, surface aera being literally twice as big I'd say you should expect the exact same temps as your Ryzen 3600, due to the AIO being able to handle the roughly 220watts and having twice the surface area,
hey buildzoid, i just recently put together a build with a 3600x b550 tuf board GTX1080 FE 1900fclk 3800mhz cl16 ccx OC. got 4034 on cinebench R20. its been neat learning these new chips from your videos. cant wait to upgrade to something higher in the future. Thanks!!
I have a 280 AIO for my 3600 but it was a third the price of the cpu. In my market an AIO with 3600 is still cheaper than buying just a 3700x. In my case I lucked out and have a daily 4.4Ghz OC so I can match 3700x single core even if I still lose out in multicore. Also I'm planning on buying something more powerful down the road.
Its a very reasonable oc what you done. Your chip is better than my chip. Im run my 3600 on a prime x370 pro on 4.2ghz with 1.325v set, llc4. This allows to droop until 1.312 in prime95 ver29.8 small fft avx. Im using a Deepcool Assassin 3, and believe me, on ryzen, there IS NO overkill cooling. Also, a good cooler (not certanly an AIO, but a decent air cooler) can serve you for a decade. For example, you can use it for even the 10th gen Intel lineup :D Thank you for the vid!
Hi Buildzoid. I am having 3700x and what worked for me is to leave clock on auto, but put llc mode 7 and reduce voltage on core by -0.1125. I have slightly better scores in cinebench but my temperature dropped by 10-15 degrees in prime95.
Thanks for the video! Please do a RAM overclocking guide, when I was researching about RAM OC most stuff were out-dated so if you do a guide it would be neat.
Not sure what stock cooler you are referring to , the stock cooler for the 3600 is the "Wraith Spire" which is a normal lump of metal and the "Wraith Prism" is for the 3700 which is a heat tube style cooler
@@skerlone My processor hits 4.2 ghz once in an entire geekbench test for a split second and I score lower overall than a stock 3600 even with ddr4 3600 and AMD denied my RMA lol.
@@JeoshuaCollins or all my voltage monitoring software is wrong. cpuid hw monitor is ok? coretemp and cpuid all say 1.1 maybe the motherboard is not showing the real voltage but how come the cpu temp is lower then? with stock settings temp is around 64c at idle and voltage jumps to 1.45v
My current overclock is 4.2 Ghz @1.27 volts. I was stable at 4.3 @1.294 volts but temps were really starting to get a bit out of hand with Prime 95. I'm using a Asrock B450 pro 4 board which does not have LLC (voltage drops to 1.23 in prime 95) and has pretty meh power delivery (close to 90 degrees in prime). Cooler is a 212 EVO so I've decided to caution on the safer side with just a 4.2 Ghz OC. I'll be moving the build to a NR200 SFF PC in the next few months so maybe with a good ITX board and a better cooler I'll see if I can get acceptable temps at 4.3 Ghz or beyond. Great video btw. It's always nice to see other people's OC results.
Im currently running manual all-core 4.4 Ghz @ 1.25v. I was able to get it stable at 4.5, but it required 1.35v and the fractional performance gain wasnt worth it to me. I'm using a noctua NH-D15 and max temps are 75 deg in P95 and 65 deg in R20. CPU: R5 3600 Mobo: X570 Aorus elite wifi Cooler: NH-D15
@@burntjoint 4.4 Ghz @1.25v is a pretty damn good OC. I'm thinking you got yourself a fantastic chip there. I'll run my chip through the paces again once I've picked up a better motherboard and cooler. I'm leaning towards the U12A cooler as it's about the tallest thing you can fit into the NR200.
One thing I noticed is the 0.052v vdroop, seems like all MSI boards have massive vdroops. I'm using an MSI b450 Mortar Max and it has a vdroop of 0.075v while my friend has an Asus b450 tuf pro-ii and literally has like 0.015v of vdroop under stress tests.
I do have a $100 "AIO" with a R5 3600 however it is the alphacool eisbaer expandable one and I have a gigabyte 2080s waterforce on it too (as well as the $90 second Radiator). Also I plan to upgrade to the 3900 replacement next year.
@@shadeofdeepgreen24 With buildzoid's settings at 4.3 ghz, I'm getting 72c max in cinebench r20, and 81c max in prime95 128k fft's. I'm afraid it's not possible to do this with the stock cooler. But really the 3600 is fast with stock settings and no PBO. So if I were you I wouldn't worry about it unless you have $100 or more for a great cooler just to get a couple hundred mhz.
My 3600 OC to 4.2ghz all cores @ 1.2V with stock cooler, max temp of 72c in cinebench R20 , idle temps 36-40c Been running this set-up now for a month no problems so far
Bought a noctua nh-d15 about 4 builds ago and never bought another head sink. Noctua sends me the brackets for free when I purchase a new cpu/board (I switched from Intel last year). Sometimes, it is worth it to pay more for a heat sink no matter what cpu you pick.
It can be worth spending a bit extra on a decent cooling solution, for the overclock, the reduced noise (that's a biggy for me), and also because, with a bit of luck, they can last for a long time, and you can reuse them with other CPUs. I've used one system with three heavily overclocked CPUs.
I have almost the exact same overclock on my R5 3600. 4.4GHz and 1.325V in the BIOS, 1.275-1.281V under load. Prime95 and Blender stable. I'm using a Hyper 212 LED cooler, so the temps are just ok. More than enough for daily use. I'm pretty happy with the chip and the overclock. My friend has a 3600X with a similar overclock (4.4GHz + 1.3V). He got the 3600X for the same price as a 3600 (don't know how), so not a complete waste of money I guess.
I am using Cooler master T400 with my Ryzen 5 3600. I get temps not higher than 80 degrees in playing Apex legends which normally pushes CPU to its limit. This temp goes for both in Precision boost and Auto OC I did lately for a week. In PB I get 4200Mhz all cores and in Auto OC I get 4300Mhz all core. And as I said same temp range. Although I didnt like this cooler master T400 contact surface which wasnt smooth and I did some lapping also. And I got good results. Before this I was reaching 85 again.
@Buildzoid You shouldn't say that about the cooling, while you're 100% right about the cooler price not being worth for the CPU, it still performs roughly on par with big boy aircoolers such as the scythe ninja 5 which cost new around 40-50bucks while used even less. I think when it comes to OC you should always use the 280mm AIO as people who are interested in OC would defnitely go and purcahse something like the scythe ninja 5 :)
On my Ryzen 1700x Linpack Xtreme used to draw significantly more power than Prime95 (around 10 Watt more CPU Package Power), but on my Ryzen 5900x it's just about equal with P95. I don't know if that's because P95 became better (they changed some stuff for the torture test in the last couple versions and I can't remember which version I originally did my testing on), or if the internal structure of the new Ryzen processors is just too "good" for Linpack. Linpack Xtreme did have some problems with Ryzen 3000, which was fixed by version 1.1.3, and then again with Ryzen 5000, where it produced "hardware failures", which were false positives. Support for Ryzen 5000 was fixed in the latest 1.1.5 version of Linpack Xtreme (which I helped push out by beta testing), but it's still just on par with Prime95 on my system. OCCT also has a Linpack stress test, but after the initial memory allocation for each iteration it drops down from 100% core load to something less (1-2 cores just seem to quit) for their 2019 implementation of Linpack. The 2012 one does run at 100% continuously, but uses much less power, probably due to some missing AVX(2?) instructions. And then there's LinX, which apparently now has completely dropped their AMD support for newer processors due to the incompatibilities. At least if you can trust Google translating the Korean page.
Buildzoid theres no such thing as too much cooling lol. Unless you're already working with liquid helium, LN2, or dice, the colder the better. Fun fact: Not only does Ryzen OC ceiling and stability scale with cold, but Phenom II does as well.
My first build: MSI X570 TOMAHAWK, RYZEN 7 3800X, 4X 8GB 3600 VENGENCE RGB, GEFORCE RTX3070, 360 AIO. PSU RM1000X, Weird problem only stable on default bios settings. Voltage seems high all the time. No temperature problems. Playing Fortnite has no issue for hours of play on default, as soon as I try and just make the memory use the correct 3600/1800 the game crashes to desktop. No Overclocking for Me ;o(
To apply update time at HWiNFO you need to click on "Set" button next to set value box and only after that apply settings. Not for BZ (cuz software readings sucks) but for those who care.
hi bullzoid, amazing content, i use this as a guide for my 3600. although mine is and early model, so its not that good as yours. im using the exact same config but 4.25 and it works in cinebench (4789 in r20 with 3600mhz cl16) but in prime95 always the 5th worker fails that and the 9th. all others work good. if i lower to 4.2 all of them works, but the 5th fails again after 2 minutes. its the only one failing, looks like the week ccx to me. what do you suggest i should do?
1.33v for 4.3ghz? Dang my friend might have won the lottery. I oc’ed her 3600 to 4.3ghz with 1.275v and it’s stable as a rock. It was a lazy overclock though so I didnt really monitor the actual voltage on hwinfo and just took note of the temps while benchmarks where running, 70’s when underload, mid 40’s at idle.
Hey i have a question. I am pretty NEW to the Section of overckocking. I have a r5 3600x on a msi x570 gaming edge wifi and I can not find VDDG CCD/IOD Voltage control mode to put it o synchronous. I am on the Newest bios Version. Curious about all other msi boards habe this Option to select. I would apreciate every help I can get. Thank a Lot
did I get a golden chip? I'm doing 4.55ghz all core at 1.375v - I'm using a 360 AIO but still... 1762 on cinebench r15 so not much of a score advantage there...
Hi, maybe its possible you make same kind of video with this same motherboard and 5900x? I tried the same aproach on my 5900x to find stable voltage, found that under full load it runs 1.27v max with droops to 1.25v. So i set my voltage at 1.27V and all cores clock at 5.6ghz, got booted and running cinebench perfect with 22400score on average (21000 stock). However when i run prime 95 it crashes instantly. Maybe there is something from you video i am missing, but strange thing i noticed that with voltage override at 1.27v when running cinebench it drops to 1.15v and thats strange does mode 6 LLC does this huge drop? Temperatures are fine, when stock with PBO it runs 83c at Cine and when with 1.27v override runs 75c
Hello! I saw your video with that Vega GPU. I was thinking about to buy a defect Vega for cheap and hopefully repair it (with all the tricks and gadgets possible). Would you recommend that? Thank you very very much for all! You really Rock that Hardware/Software and all the ... between ; )
Do you think people will test intels new support for PEG/DMI overclocking on 10th gen for the new gpus that are supposed to be limited by gen 3 speeds? Or rather could you do a content piece about overclocking pcie lanes on z490??
I run my 3600x at all core 4.4@ 1.3v 24/7 haven't had any issues sofar prime 95 temps 85c ,gaming around 58c-62c max. Do u think 1.3v is tomuch for all core ?
This is why CLC's are a waste of money. You should take the same money, add to a bit and get a custom loop. THEN you can just upgrade the CPU block or even cheaper, get a CPU block that has swappable attachment plates and just upgrade the CPU block plate (or make your own!) that secures it to the motherboard and you spend 10-20$ if that. Then you're "investment" in a watercooling system can be used on your next/future systems for the next 20 years instead of being $150 you can't use on your next system.
Im running a nzxt kraken x61 with my 3600; it's a donor cooler from my 4670k build years ago. I feel that there may be more people who were running a clc in their last build who will transfer it over to a new budget ish build instead of buying a whole new cooler for no real reason.
i wonder which voltage should one trust in hwinfo, cause my 3600 on the b450gt3 needs +0.18 offset for 4.3ghz and in hwinfo vcore says 1.275 while vid & svi2 tfn shows 1.1 , because im legit confused
Can someone show me a simple.OC because I don't have this motherboard? I have a peerless assasin cooler though. Just bought this chip used cause that's all I can afford right now. 4.3? 4.4? Pbo on off?
I'm genuinely starting to think that the pandemic forced AMD to use silicon binned for the higher end chips in their lower end chips, because I have a very recent sample ryzen 3600 that runs a 4.4ghz static overclock at 1.225v. it crashed during prime95 at 1.2v, but after raising it to 1.225v it's stable, and only runs around 78°c (in prime95) on a 240mm aio. 10k+ on cinebench r23. It also ran at 4.6ghz at 1.3v but it couldnt get through prime 95 at that frequency/ voltage, and I don't really feel comfortable raising static voltage higher than that
Newer 3600 performs very well. Currently testing 4.2 for 1.150/1.165v, seems rock stable, I'm happy with that, especially when I see the voltages that was needed back in the day on different forums.
Is that a GT 210? I just took apart my roommates "gaming" PC that had that same Asus weird passive heatsink on the gpu it lol. Along with an FX6300. Also, I use a cheaper Deepcool 240mm aio for my 3600. PBO no manual OC. Noise reasons. That stock cooler isn't garbage but the aio is under 100 bucks and it's whisper quiet.
Think I've seen most of your Ryzen 2 OC clips and you keep mentioning that enabling VR 12VIN OCP Expander most often wouldn't yield any performance gains, would it yield any gains for say a 3900X? Tried googling but not found anything as elaborate as I'd prefer :)
Mine does 4000mhz all core at 1.2V Prime95 stable Cinebench is stable down to like 1.1V Thats actually less than what it will boost to with PBO enabled that gets me ~4150mhz max and 4200mhz single core. So I run almost 200mhz less but I can run cinebench at like 50W package power basically running in passive cooled :) My chip kinda maxes out around 4200mhz so its low key a pretty shit R5 3600 to be honest. And wow these things are toasty. I use a huge double tower 120mm aircooler with new paste (I remounted like 2 times bc temps were so unusually high) and I get 80-90C depending on how high im pushing the OC. With the 4000mhz "undervolt" its not even pushing past 60C core temp but it shoots trough the roof once you push it to 4200mhz and send 100W into the CPU instead of 60W. All the heat is concentrated to a single CCD somewhere in the corner of the Heatspreader. Not a fan of that! I might get a 5700G instead of a 5700X just because it has a large monolithic Die that is centered so its gonna be MUCH cooler.
I've managed to get 4.4ghz @1.3v vdrop goes to 1.29v. LLC lvl 3. under load 75c. Is that good? Or should I go back to 4.2ghz...i don't wanna fry my chip lol
Hello, @Actually Hardcore Overclocking is it worth keeping memory F4-3600C16D-16GTZR 4x8 16-16-16-36 B-die (single) ? i bought 5900x and tomahawk x570... and got on stock settings even without XMP (2133mhz) whea errors... especialy when i run prime..:( Checked memtest no issues with memmory.. and now i don't know what to do wait for new bios look for other MB or change ram... Ah and linpack is not able to run at all - hardware error detected..
Well, you say buying a 280mm AIO isn't realistic, but my Corsair H100 is still running sweet after like 7 years, so it could last a generation change in a few years time.
Does this mean you got a bad chip? I have a 3600 on the prism like you did before. 1.35v with level 8 llc, 1400mv 100% stable prime 95 on 128 gets to 90c top over an hour. Pretty sure with a better cooler id get 4500 easy
im actually willing to change my concept and definition of short and long for this type of content.
The thing with cooling is, if you buy a good air cooler, you will run it for the next couple of CPUs for the next 10+ years. Noctua and other manufacturers did a good job of providing new brackets for coolers bought in the past in the last couple of years.
Buildzoid: "so the cooling system costs as much as the cpu. I think it's dumb to do that"
Me: cries in not yet assembled custom loop.
He knows not the joy or beauty of a custom loop. I too am in the same boat as you. I can justify a 3600 and custom loop that i could 3700 and aio. But i dislike aios anyway 🤣
*sweats in Z73 cooling a 3600*
@@BlaZebura laughs in x63 + 3700x for $30 less and equal thermal perf
*Laughs in dark rock pro 4 on an 3600x*
"hopefully this will be a quick video, but we all know how that goes" LMAO. keep doing your thing man, love your vids
Instablaster...
11:18 -- If you click RESTART + holding SHIFT ... You are able to enter the bios thru the troubleshooting / uefi submenus.
how did you know i wanted to see this video? Just finished watching your "VRM Analysis: MSI's X570 Tomahawk May Become Go-To OC Board" video :D
He has access to your cellphone's microphone >=]
You should do a max oc compararition of the top tier B550s, that would be interesting. Wanted to see how the taichi fares.
my r5 3600 runs 4,5ghz all core on 1.25V fully stable on a 40$ aircooler (b450m mortar max). Guess i got a really good sample^^
Without having Ryzen Master, you can figure out your strongest core by looking at the individual core temps in hwinfo. The two lowest under load will be your strongest cores
I see the LTT 1usmus video went from floatplane to RUclips recently, based on these comments.
I'd like to see the binning information it has available in bios, that'd be useful (I don't care much for software that has the fun for me, and generally hate installing things at all).
Have you tested the new 1usmus overclocking/undervolting setup?!
I think it is still in alpha. He only give access to LTT for now.
@@kaitoharrison872 I didn't know that. I can't wait, but my PC is packed up to move in a few weeks.
So based on the last portion of the video, stability and importance of workload, currently I have 4.4 @1.2785v as "stable" with 128k FFTs, ran for a few hours no errors. Previously had 4.5 @ 1.2875 and ran it for 2 weeks no issues in daily use until I tried 128k FFTs on Prime and that threw errors, now stuck between leaving at 4.4 or 4.5, just looking for feedback from others.
Was using the computer mainly for excel (work) (large datasets and macros) and gaming.
Stay at 4.4 or move onto 4.5?
@@pedropablofortes4629 bench it and see if it matters for you. Check fps in games if it gives significantly higher fps. Most likely not.
@@pedropablofortes4629 4.4
My custom loop has fittings that cost more than a 280 mm EVGA CLC!. But it allows me to run 4.4 GHz all day. Only under extreme loads does it even hit 60° c. Now I'm actually going to try to do a real overclock. This was just a dirty overclock I did to get up and running.
My system is a R5 3600 with a ROG B450F gaming motherboard, 32 gigs of course air vengeance pro RGB RAM 3200 megahertz or clock to 3600 megahertz and the previously mentioned custom loop cooler with 600 mm of radiator. Just for the CPU. I used this computer to test older GPUs so the GPU loop was omitted
Laughs in Noctua nh-d15
Thoughts on 1usmus Overclocking and undervolting program?
It'll ONLY get better in 2021!
I've got an i5 4690k at 4.3ghz, 1.25v on a hyper 212 evo lol. I know it's old and I didn't win the "silicon lottery" but I'll take it while waiting on the new Ryzen to release.
I was watching in fullscreen and was like wtf my pc is restarting.
Ah its the Actually casual overclocking channel ;)
After watching your videos, I managed to get my 3700x to 4.25 Ghz @ 1.255 V. For 4.3 Ghz it needs 1.295 V - 1.3 V, but i`m very happy with temps @ 1.255 V (~7C less than 1.3V). Better performance than AUTO @ --10C. (~4050 Mhz @ Auto in Cinebench with 240 water cooler)
Last comment 9 months ago... That's ok.Watched both your videos on overclocking several times. Getting a baseline without oc will help determine your cpu core voltage ⚡ using cinebench .Understanding your ppo limits,and setting this is also key.You want to control these settings based on the CPU running into a current or voltage situation.Finally, understand how the mode settings affect vdroop .Thank you so much bro.Feel confident about dialing in settings now :-)
The FX-9590 that's powering my rig laughs at your voltage as I type this
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@@raddysurrname7944 my Core 2 Duos laugh as well
I think the "fixed OC voltage degradation hype" was related to some bad early batches that should've been RMA'd to begin with h. My 3600 on stock load defaults runs R15 at around 1.35v all core. I've been running 4.4 1.35v daily for 9 months now with no sign of degradation. CPU has seen 1.85v under ln2 as well (5.4ghz r15 run) and absolutely no sign of degradation. I can still push 4.5 with 1.46ish, but since it's a daily driver, it's pointless for the fan noise and possible degradation. Good job as always on the video.
Your sample size of one means nothing, you could have a golden sample, or you could just not have noticed the degradation yet.
@@shawnpitman876 My 2600 is also running at 1.3-1.4 V, and someone explained that this is not real value, because it is affected by the program that reads it. Anyway, my CPU's temp is normal, everything seems to be OK.
Pumping high voltage through chips has always been a problem. It's not just one single batch. That being said, there is some argument, even among those who know their stuff, what classifies as "high voltage". Some say 1.5 is too high. Others say 1.35 is too high for daily drivers. There is really no hard consensus. One thing is for sure tho, 1.85v under LN2 is not going to be suitable for a daily driver, and would kill your chip if run for more than a couple hours, either through degradation or just plain water damage.
@@ShamanKish Learn the difference between a 2600, and a 3600 then come talk to me.
@@shawnpitman876
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1.45v is perfectly normal for Ryzen at stock loads, it only boosts to 1.45v under light loads, once you get under heavy loads, it'll drop the voltage to the 1.3xx mark.Dec 30, 2018
Safe voltage for ryzen 5 2600 | Tom's Hardware Forum
Totally worth the time for 6% over PBO results!!!
is it normal to run a 3600 at 4.475GHz with less than 1.3V stable?
New to over clocking and had this mb and chip bundle for a week now. Wraith Stealth is on it's way to the closet as soon as new parts arrive. In the mean time I swapped top case fan from exhaust to intake positioned further back on the case directly over cooler. Avg cpu temp while not under load dropped 5* with same ambient room temp. Almost fell out of my chair.
I'm honestly impressed, here we are over a year after release and this little CPU that often sells for under $150 (well, that changed recently) is still punching above it's weight class. I personally love that it appears pretty much every R5 3600 made is capable of at least a mild all-core OC while being fed an undervolt. I'm not a fan of feeding consistently high voltage to these smaller process node processors as I feel that's where any potential for permanent degradation resides.
@@damdibidum I too am a fan of efficiency!
@@damdibidum ruclips.net/video/um63-_YPNcA/видео.html
Hardware unboxed debunking the myth of power consumption really mattering. The amount it raises your power bill, even in a country with some of the highest costs for electricity is tiny.
@@damdibidum Did you even listen? (No, you clearly didn't) He calculated the cost savings you get on the electricity on a card that draws 70w more than the other one, and it was $10 a year. So yes, he did debunk that you save any substantial amount on your electricity bill by running a more efficient part in your computer. I'd LOVE to see you find a mainstream CPU today that draws significantly more than 70w more than a Ryzen CPU like the 3600 to make it so that those savings are ANY more than what he calculated in that video.
If you can't afford $10 a year, you've got some serious problems, and probably shouldn't own a current gen CPU in the first place.
@@damdibidum Also, the only one who's pretentious here is you, thinking that anyone who says something is debunked sounds "moronic", even when they HAVE provided evidence to disprove (or debunk) a belief that people (you) falsely believe. You CANNOT tell me that efficiency matters in some countries due to their lower income, because the amount you save on electricity by running more efficient parts is just not as big as people like you are trying to make it out to be.
@@shawnpitman876 You're right in that the money saved would be negligible, some people want to consume the minimum amount of energy for a unit of performance as possible, not only for eco reasons, but with each watt less you consume, you're creating roughly 3.4 less BTU's of heat, which means yet again less energy to cool both the PC components and the room it's sitting in. In a perfect world, I'd be able to get away with an aggressive overclock with a measurable undervolt without having to disable any power management features whatsoever resulting in performance when I need/want it but also maximum efficiency when I don't need the performance, which honestly is a most closely achieved by running it nearly stock.
Im glad you finally learned how bad the prism cooler is ;)
Actually it's not bad at what it's deigned to do which is guarantee your chips advertised on-the-box performance and if you get anything over than that then lucky for you.
So actually I put hands on an Arctic Liquid Freezer (not the II, the older one) for free and I put it on my R5 3600. I ended up with pretty much the same overclock, with the only difference I could use a touch less voltage (I have an MSI X470 Gaming pro max). I see a maximum of 77C under AIDA64 with a silent fan profile, I guess it's kinda okay. Final Vcore was 1.325 V, LLC Mode 6 (it goes down to 1.294/1.3 under heavy load) with CCX0 at 4.325 Ghz and CCX1 at 4.3 Ghz (I'm thinking about backing down CCX0, the gain is almost none). Think I have to be satisfied with this oc, even if I was a bit worried about 7nm degradation, I guess it'll last enough till the next upgrade.
I'm currently running all core 4,4 ghz at 1,2v on air cooler. Bought mine in December 2020 and I suspect later batches have much better silicone.
Also about the cooling, I don't exacly know if it's true. You point out that the CPU is hard to cool, but looking at the numbers you'll notice that the bottleneck really isn't the cooler but the CPU itself at this point. You say that you don't know how to cool the Ryzen 3900x and state that due to twice the cores = double cooling needed which isn't exacly true at all. You use a setup without a case and a 280mm AIO, yet the CPU only produces 120watts. 280mm AIO's can cool down Intel CPU's running at 200W+ at similair temps to what you have right now and considering the noctua DH15 performs the same as 280mm AIO's and is rated for 220W it's quite easy to say that the true heat bottleneck here is either the solder used to connect die and the IHS, thermal paste (which i doubt in ur case ) or simply that the way they built the CPU is a little problematic. You see, all 6 cores reside in a small chiplet in the corner of the CPU with another chiplet for all the cache etc, so effectively you're basicially just trying to cool the corner of the AMD CPU as efficiently as possible. However if you go to the 3900x in comparison, you'll see AMD split the CPU in 3 chiplets instead of 2, 1 for the cache etc. and 2 having 6 cores each, making the surface area much larger, considering the cores are probably better binned, surface aera being literally twice as big I'd say you should expect the exact same temps as your Ryzen 3600, due to the AIO being able to handle the roughly 220watts and having twice the surface area,
hey buildzoid, i just recently put together a build with a 3600x b550 tuf board GTX1080 FE 1900fclk 3800mhz cl16 ccx OC. got 4034 on cinebench R20. its been neat learning these new chips from your videos. cant wait to upgrade to something higher in the future. Thanks!!
cinebench runs at 1.28v maxes 84c in p95
I have a 280 AIO for my 3600 but it was a third the price of the cpu. In my market an AIO with 3600 is still cheaper than buying just a 3700x. In my case I lucked out and have a daily 4.4Ghz OC so I can match 3700x single core even if I still lose out in multicore. Also I'm planning on buying something more powerful down the road.
Its a very reasonable oc what you done. Your chip is better than my chip. Im run my 3600 on a prime x370 pro on 4.2ghz with 1.325v set, llc4. This allows to droop until 1.312 in prime95 ver29.8 small fft avx. Im using a Deepcool Assassin 3, and believe me, on ryzen, there IS NO overkill cooling. Also, a good cooler (not certanly an AIO, but a decent air cooler) can serve you for a decade. For example, you can use it for even the 10th gen Intel lineup :D
Thank you for the vid!
Hi Buildzoid. I am having 3700x and what worked for me is to leave clock on auto, but put llc mode 7 and reduce voltage on core by -0.1125. I have slightly better scores in cinebench but my temperature dropped by 10-15 degrees in prime95.
Thanks for the video! Please do a RAM overclocking guide, when I was researching about RAM OC most stuff were out-dated so if you do a guide it would be neat.
What do you think of the x570 Tomshawk now thst youve used it? And how does it stack up to the Unify?
Same thing.
Not sure what stock cooler you are referring to , the stock cooler for the 3600 is the "Wraith Spire" which is a normal lump of metal and the "Wraith Prism" is for the 3700 which is a heat tube style cooler
I made a easy all core OC to 4.2 and I let the auto voltage and works at 1.1 volts 4.2 Ghz and 55 celsius in game, at least 10c under stock temp
what motherboard do you have?
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking b550m aorus pro and the cpu is new just 2 weeks old since AMD RMA send it to me
That's a phenomenal voltage result. You won the silicon lottery on that.
@@skerlone My processor hits 4.2 ghz once in an entire geekbench test for a split second and I score lower overall than a stock 3600 even with ddr4 3600 and AMD denied my RMA lol.
@@JeoshuaCollins or all my voltage monitoring software is wrong. cpuid hw monitor is ok? coretemp and cpuid all say 1.1 maybe the motherboard is not showing the real voltage but how come the cpu temp is lower then? with stock settings temp is around 64c at idle and voltage jumps to 1.45v
My current overclock is 4.2 Ghz @1.27 volts. I was stable at 4.3 @1.294 volts but temps were really starting to get a bit out of hand with Prime 95. I'm using a Asrock B450 pro 4 board which does not have LLC (voltage drops to 1.23 in prime 95) and has pretty meh power delivery (close to 90 degrees in prime). Cooler is a 212 EVO so I've decided to caution on the safer side with just a 4.2 Ghz OC. I'll be moving the build to a NR200 SFF PC in the next few months so maybe with a good ITX board and a better cooler I'll see if I can get acceptable temps at 4.3 Ghz or beyond.
Great video btw. It's always nice to see other people's OC results.
Im currently running manual all-core 4.4 Ghz @ 1.25v. I was able to get it stable at 4.5, but it required 1.35v and the fractional performance gain wasnt worth it to me. I'm using a noctua NH-D15 and max temps are 75 deg in P95 and 65 deg in R20.
CPU: R5 3600
Mobo: X570 Aorus elite wifi
Cooler: NH-D15
@@burntjoint 4.4 Ghz @1.25v is a pretty damn good OC. I'm thinking you got yourself a fantastic chip there. I'll run my chip through the paces again once I've picked up a better motherboard and cooler. I'm leaning towards the U12A cooler as it's about the tallest thing you can fit into the NR200.
buildzoid please do update of this board with new zen 3,hope you have good xmas :)
One thing I noticed is the 0.052v vdroop, seems like all MSI boards have massive vdroops. I'm using an MSI b450 Mortar Max and it has a vdroop of 0.075v while my friend has an Asus b450 tuf pro-ii and literally has like 0.015v of vdroop under stress tests.
My 3600 in a good case with good airflow with a Vetroo V5 does 4.45ghz all core @ 1.38V at 85C
I do have a $100 "AIO" with a R5 3600 however it is the alphacool eisbaer expandable one and I have a gigabyte 2080s waterforce on it too (as well as the $90 second Radiator). Also I plan to upgrade to the 3900 replacement next year.
3600 owner with noctua nh-d15s checking in. I got my 3600 to 4.3 ghz with your help. Thanks.
what temps are you seeing?.. right now its so cheap, this stock cooler i have isnt doing a damn thing.
@@shadeofdeepgreen24 With buildzoid's settings at 4.3 ghz, I'm getting 72c max in cinebench r20, and 81c max in prime95 128k fft's. I'm afraid it's not possible to do this with the stock cooler. But really the 3600 is fast with stock settings and no PBO. So if I were you I wouldn't worry about it unless you have $100 or more for a great cooler just to get a couple hundred mhz.
@@pf100andahalf 1615 for me on cinerbench r15, stock clock, stock cooler.
@@shadeofdeepgreen24 That's a good score. I'm getting about 1700 at 4.3 ghz. Not sure if it's even worth it for the added heat.
My 3600 OC to 4.2ghz all cores @ 1.2V with stock cooler, max temp of 72c in cinebench R20 , idle temps 36-40c
Been running this set-up now for a month no problems so far
the last time i was this late the buildzoid was still overclocking ryzen 3600.
Bought a noctua nh-d15 about 4 builds ago and never bought another head sink. Noctua sends me the brackets for free when I purchase a new cpu/board (I switched from Intel last year). Sometimes, it is worth it to pay more for a heat sink no matter what cpu you pick.
I have an NH-D15 on my 3600. Overclocked to 4.5GHz all core, 1.3 volts. Haven't had an issue yet. MSI B550 Tomahawk.
I have same cooler but my 3600 is pretty shit, it is crashing anything after 4.3GHz
What about a vídeo undervolting it and trying to get the highest score?
It can be worth spending a bit extra on a decent cooling solution, for the overclock, the reduced noise (that's a biggy for me), and also because, with a bit of luck, they can last for a long time, and you can reuse them with other CPUs. I've used one system with three heavily overclocked CPUs.
I have almost the exact same overclock on my R5 3600. 4.4GHz and 1.325V in the BIOS, 1.275-1.281V under load. Prime95 and Blender stable. I'm using a Hyper 212 LED cooler, so the temps are just ok. More than enough for daily use. I'm pretty happy with the chip and the overclock. My friend has a 3600X with a similar overclock (4.4GHz + 1.3V). He got the 3600X for the same price as a 3600 (don't know how), so not a complete waste of money I guess.
I am using Cooler master T400 with my Ryzen 5 3600. I get temps not higher than 80 degrees in playing Apex legends which normally pushes CPU to its limit. This temp goes for both in Precision boost and Auto OC I did lately for a week. In PB I get 4200Mhz all cores and in Auto OC I get 4300Mhz all core. And as I said same temp range. Although I didnt like this cooler master T400 contact surface which wasnt smooth and I did some lapping also. And I got good results. Before this I was reaching 85 again.
@Buildzoid You shouldn't say that about the cooling, while you're 100% right about the cooler price not being worth for the CPU, it still performs roughly on par with big boy aircoolers such as the scythe ninja 5 which cost new around 40-50bucks while used even less. I think when it comes to OC you should always use the 280mm AIO as people who are interested in OC would defnitely go and purcahse something like the scythe ninja 5 :)
Ryzen 3600 user checking in with my custom loop =D
On my Ryzen 1700x Linpack Xtreme used to draw significantly more power than Prime95 (around 10 Watt more CPU Package Power), but on my Ryzen 5900x it's just about equal with P95. I don't know if that's because P95 became better (they changed some stuff for the torture test in the last couple versions and I can't remember which version I originally did my testing on), or if the internal structure of the new Ryzen processors is just too "good" for Linpack.
Linpack Xtreme did have some problems with Ryzen 3000, which was fixed by version 1.1.3, and then again with Ryzen 5000, where it produced "hardware failures", which were false positives. Support for Ryzen 5000 was fixed in the latest 1.1.5 version of Linpack Xtreme (which I helped push out by beta testing), but it's still just on par with Prime95 on my system.
OCCT also has a Linpack stress test, but after the initial memory allocation for each iteration it drops down from 100% core load to something less (1-2 cores just seem to quit) for their 2019 implementation of Linpack. The 2012 one does run at 100% continuously, but uses much less power, probably due to some missing AVX(2?) instructions.
And then there's LinX, which apparently now has completely dropped their AMD support for newer processors due to the incompatibilities. At least if you can trust Google translating the Korean page.
I was able to get my buddy's 3600 to do 4.425 all core oc on his wraith prism @ 1.32v, max of 85 degrees
is that safe for long term? I'm running 4.2ghz but wouldn't mind 4.4ghz.
@@redogg2749 yes, 1.32 is very safe
@@AcedNAonDiscord Thanks.
only 28min. monkaS . i hope he is feeling good,
Thank you! You will the test ClockTuner for Ryzen by 1usmus?
Buildzoid theres no such thing as too much cooling lol. Unless you're already working with liquid helium, LN2, or dice, the colder the better. Fun fact: Not only does Ryzen OC ceiling and stability scale with cold, but Phenom II does as well.
Ya let's upvote your comment because he definitely needs to know this. 😂
If you want an alternative stress test for AMD, try Y-cruncher, some of the tests get quite hot, others hammer the memory.
I don't Oc my daily drivers generally, i grabbed a Spire for the 3600 and it is much better than the stealth thing.
according to per core oc description in my x370 taichu bios, all the power saving stuff keeps working with per core oc
My first build:
MSI X570 TOMAHAWK, RYZEN 7 3800X, 4X 8GB 3600 VENGENCE RGB, GEFORCE RTX3070, 360 AIO. PSU RM1000X, Weird problem only stable on default bios settings. Voltage seems high all the time. No temperature problems.
Playing Fortnite has no issue for hours of play on default, as soon as I try and just make the memory use the correct 3600/1800 the game crashes to desktop.
No Overclocking for Me ;o(
To apply update time at HWiNFO you need to click on "Set" button next to set value box and only after that apply settings. Not for BZ (cuz software readings sucks) but for those who care.
hi bullzoid, amazing content, i use this as a guide for my 3600. although mine is and early model, so its not that good as yours. im using the exact same config but 4.25 and it works in cinebench (4789 in r20 with 3600mhz cl16) but in prime95 always the 5th worker fails that and the 9th. all others work good. if i lower to 4.2 all of them works, but the 5th fails again after 2 minutes. its the only one failing, looks like the week ccx to me. what do you suggest i should do?
Probably nothing. Zen 2 sucks @ OC. You likely got some bad silicon.
MSI Tomahawk vs MSI Unify vs Asus Hero VIII... which one would you choose for AMD 5900x build and why?
I get nearly the same performance with the be quiet Dark Rock 4 Pro aircooler. 4,25GHz @1,325V -> R15 1694 max temp 68°C (double run)
from watching your videos i've got a stable 4.3ghz 1.3250v mode 7 is the way ;)
2:06 can you post those?
A good cooler like a good psu, will get use long after your motherboard is EOL.
Brilliant material. Would you do that for a 3900X with an MSI board too? (like with Ace or Unify)
i bought a referbished H115i aio for 60$ from Freys electronics and put noctua 140mm fans on it. felt like that was a good deal
1.33v for 4.3ghz? Dang my friend might have won the lottery. I oc’ed her 3600 to 4.3ghz with 1.275v and it’s stable as a rock. It was a lazy overclock though so I didnt really monitor the actual voltage on hwinfo and just took note of the temps while benchmarks where running, 70’s when underload, mid 40’s at idle.
Well I wouldn't say this video is lengthy or short. But I would say it is optimal.
how can a 65 w chip pull 120 - 140 watt and not burn ? i dont get it ,mine does the same .
Hey i have a question. I am pretty NEW to the Section of overckocking. I have a r5 3600x on a msi x570 gaming edge wifi and I can not find VDDG CCD/IOD Voltage control mode to put it o synchronous. I am on the Newest bios Version. Curious about all other msi boards habe this Option to select. I would apreciate every help I can get. Thank a Lot
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did I get a golden chip? I'm doing 4.55ghz all core at 1.375v - I'm using a 360 AIO but still... 1762 on cinebench r15 so not much of a score advantage there...
Hi, maybe its possible you make same kind of video with this same motherboard and 5900x? I tried the same aproach on my 5900x to find stable voltage, found that under full load it runs 1.27v max with droops to 1.25v. So i set my voltage at 1.27V and all cores clock at 5.6ghz, got booted and running cinebench perfect with 22400score on average (21000 stock). However when i run prime 95 it crashes instantly. Maybe there is something from you video i am missing, but strange thing i noticed that with voltage override at 1.27v when running cinebench it drops to 1.15v and thats strange does mode 6 LLC does this huge drop? Temperatures are fine, when stock with PBO it runs 83c at Cine and when with 1.27v override runs 75c
Hello!
I saw your video with that Vega GPU. I was thinking about to buy a defect Vega for cheap and hopefully repair it (with all the tricks and gadgets possible).
Would you recommend that?
Thank you very very much for all! You really Rock that Hardware/Software and all the ... between ; )
Do you think people will test intels new support for PEG/DMI overclocking on 10th gen for the new gpus that are supposed to be limited by gen 3 speeds? Or rather could you do a content piece about overclocking pcie lanes on z490??
I run my 3600x at all core 4.4@ 1.3v 24/7 haven't had any issues sofar prime 95 temps 85c ,gaming around 58c-62c max. Do u think 1.3v is tomuch for all core ?
This is why CLC's are a waste of money. You should take the same money, add to a bit and get a custom loop. THEN you can just upgrade the CPU block or even cheaper, get a CPU block that has swappable attachment plates and just upgrade the CPU block plate (or make your own!) that secures it to the motherboard and you spend 10-20$ if that. Then you're "investment" in a watercooling system can be used on your next/future systems for the next 20 years instead of being $150 you can't use on your next system.
Im running a nzxt kraken x61 with my 3600; it's a donor cooler from my 4670k build years ago. I feel that there may be more people who were running a clc in their last build who will transfer it over to a new budget ish build instead of buying a whole new cooler for no real reason.
This is why I have a D15 on my 3600. I've had it for almost 6 years.
I see the old BIOS UI in the video - how come? I thought it was pushed out a while ago?
I want the graphical UI back too!
I have the same setup. On a 40$ air cooler I run 4.3 ghz. And 1.30 v
i wonder which voltage should one trust in hwinfo, cause my 3600 on the b450gt3 needs +0.18 offset for 4.3ghz and in hwinfo vcore says 1.275 while vid & svi2 tfn shows 1.1 , because im legit confused
Can someone show me a simple.OC because I don't have this motherboard? I have a peerless assasin cooler though. Just bought this chip used cause that's all I can afford right now. 4.3? 4.4? Pbo on off?
My 3600 gets around 1670 on R15, and it's 4.2ghz. However, it's running on 1.43 volts. How.
I'm genuinely starting to think that the pandemic forced AMD to use silicon binned for the higher end chips in their lower end chips, because I have a very recent sample ryzen 3600 that runs a 4.4ghz static overclock at 1.225v. it crashed during prime95 at 1.2v, but after raising it to 1.225v it's stable, and only runs around 78°c (in prime95) on a 240mm aio. 10k+ on cinebench r23.
It also ran at 4.6ghz at 1.3v but it couldnt get through prime 95 at that frequency/ voltage, and I don't really feel comfortable raising static voltage higher than that
Newer 3600 performs very well. Currently testing 4.2 for 1.150/1.165v, seems rock stable, I'm happy with that, especially when I see the voltages that was needed back in the day on different forums.
Is that a GT 210? I just took apart my roommates "gaming" PC that had that same Asus weird passive heatsink on the gpu it lol. Along with an FX6300.
Also, I use a cheaper Deepcool 240mm aio for my 3600. PBO no manual OC. Noise reasons. That stock cooler isn't garbage but the aio is under 100 bucks and it's whisper quiet.
Think I've seen most of your Ryzen 2 OC clips and you keep mentioning that enabling VR 12VIN OCP Expander most often wouldn't yield any performance gains, would it yield any gains for say a 3900X? Tried googling but not found anything as elaborate as I'd prefer :)
If you just want to generate heat nothing in Prime95 or OCCT gets my 5800x as fast as hot as the CPU Burner that is bundled with Furmark.
On my 3600 nothing burns as hard as Prime95. CPU Burner pulls less power than Cinebench on my system lol
The final settings are pbo + manual oc?
i oc r5 3600 to 4.325mhz and the voltage is 1.2785v
is that good ? its very stable for me
What 32gb memory kit would would you recommend, for being able to do about 3800mhz cl16 24/7 on the x570 Tomahawk?
Hi will my clocks be stable if I apply this using b450 tomahawk max? Same processor and with aio cooler
Mine does 4000mhz all core at 1.2V Prime95 stable
Cinebench is stable down to like 1.1V
Thats actually less than what it will boost to with PBO enabled that gets me ~4150mhz max and 4200mhz single core. So I run almost 200mhz less but I can run cinebench at like 50W package power basically running in passive cooled :)
My chip kinda maxes out around 4200mhz so its low key a pretty shit R5 3600 to be honest.
And wow these things are toasty. I use a huge double tower 120mm aircooler with new paste (I remounted like 2 times bc temps were so unusually high) and I get 80-90C depending on how high im pushing the OC. With the 4000mhz "undervolt" its not even pushing past 60C core temp but it shoots trough the roof once you push it to 4200mhz and send 100W into the CPU instead of 60W. All the heat is concentrated to a single CCD somewhere in the corner of the Heatspreader. Not a fan of that!
I might get a 5700G instead of a 5700X just because it has a large monolithic Die that is centered so its gonna be MUCH cooler.
I've managed to get 4.4ghz @1.3v vdrop goes to 1.29v. LLC lvl 3. under load 75c. Is that good? Or should I go back to 4.2ghz...i don't wanna fry my chip lol
Hello, @Actually Hardcore Overclocking is it worth keeping memory F4-3600C16D-16GTZR 4x8 16-16-16-36 B-die (single) ? i bought 5900x and tomahawk x570... and got on stock settings even without XMP (2133mhz) whea errors... especialy when i run prime..:(
Checked memtest no issues with memmory.. and now i don't know what to do wait for new bios look for other MB or change ram...
Ah and linpack is not able to run at all - hardware error detected..
is occt still useful?
Well, you say buying a 280mm AIO isn't realistic, but my Corsair H100 is still running sweet after like 7 years, so it could last a generation change in a few years time.
$100+ cooler for a $150 chip isn't realistic, that's what he means.
Does this mean you got a bad chip? I have a 3600 on the prism like you did before. 1.35v with level 8 llc, 1400mv 100% stable prime 95 on 128 gets to 90c top over an hour. Pretty sure with a better cooler id get 4500 easy
My ryzen 3600 on x570tuf hit 4.4GHZ @ 1.280v, is that a good chip? Or newest enhanced sillicon? Bought it 2 months ago