@@mightsaber Shepherd died so Graves has no reason to fight Task Force 141. Also, I think Shadow Company will be hired by a new employer in the U.S. Government to work with Task Force 141 considering how the two groups work together really well when they are allies, not enemies.
To be fair shepherd was denying the last almas attack on his part so its only natural for graves to respond to it with the truth. But to be fair he was gonna backstab him regardless
Tbf, there was probably some personal stuff when he backstabbed Shepard. He sounded real agitated when his men got ambushed by Russians when they were escorting the missiles. And Shepard just "f*ckin watched".
Price tapped Gaz's shoulder, and that was like his commanding officer telling him to remember which side he was on now, son, and save that anger for later. Gaz just passed that same shoulder tapping to Graves.
Before Alejandro punched him, he illegally took over a foreign country's military base and detained foreign operatives in their own country. That's violating another country's sovereignty and an international disaster waiting to happen. After that he and his men killed civilians, that's a warcrime. It doesn't matter if Graves told them to stand down first, they don't have to follow it. One, it's an illegal order. Two, TF141 and Los Vaqueros work with Shadow and Shepherd not for them.
After he stole his base and arrested his men. Although I believe graves probably would’ve let them walk away he was probably counting on them fighting back
It feels ai generated, like the updates with ChatGPT, the writers did better than whatever mwII was. The real fever dream was the og Michael bays modern warfare 🔫💪🇺🇸💣💥🔥🔥🔥
Graves return carried a majority of the campaign, he’s my favorite character personally, would’ve been way better if we saw more of him like in the last game
Exactly lol. That’s just one of those situations where it’s better to back off and stay in your own lane. No explanation can justify trying to kill an ally for no good reason other than money
0:28 Oh sure Graves! Maybe TF 141 will forgive you and think it was all in good fun after sending a remote-piloted battle tank at Soap. Brilliant idea! 🤣
Graves is a wardog and will follow orders in the moment, but after he’ll allow time to reflect. He’s not a good guy by an stretch of the imagination, but he does have a code.
But in the end , graves betrayed shepherd So my teory is , graves isn't evil after all , remember shepherd is 4 STARS GENERAL , he might force graves and his team shadow company being corrupt to TF 141 and las vaqueros in MW2 , let's go back to MW2 , graves was free for combat , he might just kill them without warning , but he didn't do that , there's no other way for graves for threaten them , because graves saving himself and shadow company from sheperd ...
I kinda agree graves betrayal in mw2 was kinda stupid it came out of nowhere so I hope in the long run he ends up being a full ally with 141 rather than like a enemy of my enemy sort or relationship.
No. Graves should've refuse to take this order. Killing Soap, Ghost and Alejandro? He could've explain them the situation and continue to work with them. Taking Alejandro's base was low and coward move too. Graves was feeling himself too much. "I can take the whole damn country" this didn't even sound like a joke. That guy is dangerious and who knows what in the future he will pull out.
I think the same, I mean he looks more like a grey character and maybe we can have a redemption for him in the future. He's a good character with a good potential and for a reason they brought him back
@@namiromero5530 nooo , graves isn't guy like that , i believe there's a BIG RISK for graves and shadow company if they won't take those order , boy don't u forget who give them those order ?? It's from someone with rank 4 STARS GENERAL ( sheperd ) , not leutenant , not captain , not major , not colonel , not even admiral , it's 4 STARS GENERAL
What color is Graves Hair? Because i swear in every cutscene it's a different color and don't say It's the lightening this dude's hair is holographic like a pokemon card.
@@praetorian9823 But mine is of course the correct one. It's definitely more blonde than brown. Hence we call it "dark blonde". 😁 This is the actor btw: static.wikia.nocookie.net/shadesofblue/images/1/11/Warren-Kole.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20170427041520
idc what yall say about Graves! Farah and Alex may not witness Graves and his Shadows fight Task Force 141 but they did not let their emotions get to them, you get me? Also, to be fair, Alejandro shouldn't have chosen anger when Graves told him that his Shadows detained his men... detained, not killed... coulda done it in a diplomatic solution butttt they chose aggressive negotiationssss!
0:26 easy for graves to shed his skin like a snake and act brand new as if he didn’t try killing soap and ghost in las almas, rat bastard, good for gaz no engaging with the enemy.
@@BCastless they originally had infinity ward for the first two but for mw3 they switched to sledgehammer games. I'm not sure why but sledgehammer games also developed the originals so I have no idea how they fumbled so hard w this one
You know, Graves never did want to to what he did to Ghost, Soap and Alejandro. He was merely following orders as per his contract, he was a true soldier. Honestly I don't find it weird if Graves decides to help Price and the rest of the Task Force by giving them intel directly or by assisting them on missions to hunt down Makarov as he is no longer under Shepherd's leash.
why did he think trying to shake his hand was a good idea?? was his logic being "I didnt try to kill you, I tried to kill your friends. so we should be cool!!"
Well only case that is understandable It was Shepherd's doing not Graves He wasn't the one that started shooting until one of them nervous triggered. Shepherd was the real asshole
@@mahirmuhammad2325 What was Shepherd’s doing? He didn’t order the execution of civilians? And even if he did, Graves has a right to disobey unlawful orders. You would think he would, if so many insist he’s “one of the good guys.”
This campaign would've been better if there was a mission where you had to fight off konnis ac130..considering how in the first mission they had a sub and had a way of entering the gulag from the sky
Graves was literally just doing his job, he was literally following orders regardless them of being right or wrong, it’s his job to follow orders from the top that’s why he doesn’t hold anything against task 141, but task 141 can’t move on and u can’t blame them since they don’t just follow orders, they do what is right.
I really want a Graves and Shadow Company vs Konni and Makarov. Two bad ass mercenary groups duking it out. Makarov will most likely win but I think it is a fitting end for Graves and the shadows.
IMO, Makarov is more of Graves’s adversary than Price. Both are commanders of PMCs. Both PMCs have been at each other’s throat since their *clears throat* first surprising encounter.
You have to remember the members of 141 are all very close and deeply respect each other, I’d do the same if close friends had attempts on their lives made by someone you considered an ally.
Shepherd in MW2 2009 : Betrayed everyone
Shepherd in MW3 2023 : Betrayed by everyone
Well... yes xD
Got betrayed by everyone and the world just f*cking watched. 👀
@@9f81rsd00the world "us* watching him get betrayed by everyone.
Im confused didnt ge also betray every one in mwII 2022
If I remember correctly, he started it
Bruv really tried to kill them and came like Eyoo were all friend boyyys 😂
just bidniss
@@AFGuidesHD that's also what Graves is gonna say when he betrays them again lol
IW really screwed up with the betrayal
Yes he did
@@mightsaber Shepherd died so Graves has no reason to fight Task Force 141. Also, I think Shadow Company will be hired by a new employer in the U.S. Government to work with Task Force 141 considering how the two groups work together really well when they are allies, not enemies.
Graves is a badass. A rich CEO fighting alongside his own men. No wonder why the mercenaries of Shadow Company love Graves.
The difference between a boss and a leader.
Too bad he doesn’t stand for anything except $$$
Didn’t he raid an entire town and murder a bunch of innocent people? I personally wouldn’t call that “badass.”
@@jasonfrancese8359naah that's "bad ass"
@@jasonfrancese8359Those are cartel supporters and payrolled cops
i love how gaz looks so much like how he was in the first mw
except for one big aspect, i think he was a bit more pale in the first one
@@Latrine1999_💀_
Poor mf literally got blackwashed. Welcome to the Special Affirmation Service, son.
@@ГеоргийИванов-й6ю9шyeah like hollywood hasn’t white washed for a millennia….cope harder
@@ГеоргийИванов-й6ю9ш "Welcome to the Special Affirmation Service, M8."
This and US congress scene with Shepard shows exactly how Graves is the physical embodiment of "nothing personal just business"
To be fair shepherd was denying the last almas attack on his part so its only natural for graves to respond to it with the truth. But to be fair he was gonna backstab him regardless
I think he's more intelligent that I could though in the past...
imagine this level of production value, except with a story that wasn't written for 12 year olds
Phillip graves fav operator
Tbf, there was probably some personal stuff when he backstabbed Shepard. He sounded real agitated when his men got ambushed by Russians when they were escorting the missiles. And Shepard just "f*ckin watched".
To this day I still love Graves. Lol
Appreciated.
Simp
Graves is hot 🥵 (no homo btw)
Idk about that
Same 😌👍
"go get 'em Shadow"
He literally sounds like he's talking to a dog omg
Cause he's talking to a DAWG
Like Price said, he's Shepherd's lap dog.
In "Dead To Rights," Police Detective Jack Slate has a dog that's actually called Shadow.
Shadow the Hedgehog of G.U.N.
Even though Gaz doesn't shake his hand(0:32), he tap him on the forearm. (speed x 0.5)
I think that was more him pushing Graves out of the way. There’s no reason for Gaz to give Graves a friendly tap on the arm
@@kinnexionnah. He gave him a bump, letting graves know they’re on the same side.
I never noticed that
Price tapped Gaz's shoulder, and that was like his commanding officer telling him to remember which side he was on now, son, and save that anger for later. Gaz just passed that same shoulder tapping to Graves.
@Dead_Iguessyoooo what same
1:00 The cutscene with plane and two choopers is really badass
That's really fking badass!!
What? Its just inanimate objects meant to fly... About to fly what's so cool?
@@SadBheeseChurger The way they're flying together is cool.
@@AgentLeonDeputyAmaral exactly
I agree that it's awesome.
Legends say that if Graves meets with Ajelandro Vargas then he's gonna have hard tine explaining why he betrayed and then became friends again...
"It's just business"
Friend? May be in your dream. Graves murdered Alejandro's peoples.
@@saimyintmyat9373No, solo limpio la basura de la calle
Algo que a Alejandro le costaría años lo hizo en una noche
@@saimyintmyat9373Nah he just detained them
@@epikmadman5518 I meant his city 's ppls.
To be fair… graves did give them a order to stand down in mw2 and didn’t really act on anything until Alejandro took a swing at him.
Before Alejandro punched him, he illegally took over a foreign country's military base and detained foreign operatives in their own country. That's violating another country's sovereignty and an international disaster waiting to happen. After that he and his men killed civilians, that's a warcrime. It doesn't matter if Graves told them to stand down first, they don't have to follow it. One, it's an illegal order. Two, TF141 and Los Vaqueros work with Shadow and Shepherd not for them.
After he stole his base and arrested his men. Although I believe graves probably would’ve let them walk away he was probably counting on them fighting back
Honestly I love Graves, more here, I just can't hate him is so funny
Be prepare for his Another Betrayer to 141.
i want him to join makarov, that would be awesome
@@mehmed13he won’t join makarov
Graves has that Rafe Adler charm that's what makes him likeable despite him being a POS
0:41 Alex looks high as hell
A schoolgirl standing next to her only friend in her entire career: the light pole.
Gaz Like Am Not Going To Shake Your Hand Graves You Tried To Kill Us 😂
Right?
Graves doesn’t know how to dap someone up 😔
thats so funny!!
More like
I’ve had enough of this BS
Graves: fist bump?
Gaz was looking for an excuse to beat this guy to a pulp on the spot 🤣
Price stopped him tho
Can’t lie it’s badass to have a fleet of helicopters flying into the sunset and proceed to rain down hell
Correction: it’s sunrise.
this campaign feels like a fever dream
It feels ai generated, like the updates with ChatGPT, the writers did better than whatever mwII was. The real fever dream was the og Michael bays modern warfare 🔫💪🇺🇸💣💥🔥🔥🔥
@@rroy1985Thats what happens if you give your devs and writing team just 6 months to make a game
@@srinivarma1320 6 months?!
@@rroy1985old mw2 isn't better neither is old mw3
@@srinivarma1320 I think if they had more time they can actually cook some stuff, story wasn't bad just too damn short
Graves legit holds no malice, the way he keeps trying to be friendly again.
0:32 Graves at the moment: ''HA! GOT 'EM HA! GOT 'EM HAHA''
Gaz started to act like ghost with that cold death stare lol☠️
Why does Alex look so weird and different in this game wtf
glad im not the only one, so did Nikolai.
The CGI models are off since this is a different studio
@@DiversionDudesledgehammer really messed up the characters looks
Alex looks like he's sick
Its the moustache
1:13 This shot feels like an homage to Transformers. Michael Bay knew how to bring out the spectacle of military aircraft through film.
Considering the actor playing Shepard was IN transformers I can see it.
0:30 - Graves: Gaz, Forgive me!
0:33 - Gaz: Later, Graves!
Gaz didn't give 2 ucks about Farah motivational speech he wanted to end him right there
Truly a friendly moment
Technically Price and Gaz were across the world when Graves betrayed 141. They never met face to face until now.
Yes but I only just remembered that they where at the black site to help at the end. Plus they raided the prison to help soap and ghost.
Yeah but his men fired on them and he tried to kill their brothers, so they’re probably just as angry as soap and ghost
MW-3-hour campaign
Damn it's that short
Yeah bro@@srinivarma1320
@@srinivarma1320 that’s actually barely an exaggeration. I think it took me around 4 hours to beat it.
And it was insanely underwhelming…
@@praetorian98233 hours long of stories durations with above 100$ prices 😂. The irony of consumers getting scammed by corporate producers.
2 hours
Alex and Farah after no handshakes were exchanged between Graves and Gaz: *awkward*
Graves return carried a majority of the campaign, he’s my favorite character personally, would’ve been way better if we saw more of him like in the last game
The face of alex😂😂, in modern warfare 2019 was best face
Yeah he was kinda bad 😩
Love how Farrah and Alex are basically we’re fucked ain’t we? Yep
Gaz: i though you are Dead.
Graves: YES?
I love him but Jesus what did he expect when trying to talk to any member of 141
Exactly lol. That’s just one of those situations where it’s better to back off and stay in your own lane. No explanation can justify trying to kill an ally for no good reason other than money
Alex is pretty much the definition of "i have no enemies"
Very weird for someone who's ex CIA
Gaz said “forgive me for if I don’t shake hands”
Doc Holliday reference I love it 😂❤
Gaz had hella aura in this one
Graves is so charismatic and such a fun character ✨😜 he is a gem of an addition to the series
cutscene came straight out of a movie
Graves: sticks his hand out
Gaz: A-poses
Gaz gave him an arm tap
Shadow Company loves their boss, and he loves them
Turns out that when you try to kill someone they do not think of you fondly
0:28 Oh sure Graves! Maybe TF 141 will forgive you and think it was all in good fun after sending a remote-piloted battle tank at Soap. Brilliant idea! 🤣
I wouldn’t shake his hand either.
Graves is a wardog and will follow orders in the moment, but after he’ll allow time to reflect.
He’s not a good guy by an stretch of the imagination, but he does have a code.
lmfao alex and farah be like 👁👄👁
Can we talk about how cool that Heli and Ac-130 take off scene is?
1 thing for certain never put your faith & trust on a Mercenary bc their loyalty is bought
Alex looks so weird compared to mw2019
New hairstyle I guess
Graves is my Favorite Character in this reboot lol
Those stallion helicopters are actually slightly bigger than this version….
How to defeated in Graves Before death
Alex: Care to explain?
Fun Fact: Erik Prince liked his character
Is that Graves' VA?
I didn't know a Sea-Stallion could keep up with a C-130 on the runway.
Ya'll realize he lost his iconic halligan crowbar in this scene?😂
Why should he have a breacher backpanel anyway on the Airbase ?
@@foxtrotsierraproductions8626 just trying to give a shoutout to the dev team for not being lazy in animating, it's a nice detail.
But in the end , graves betrayed shepherd
So my teory is , graves isn't evil after all , remember shepherd is 4 STARS GENERAL , he might force graves and his team shadow company being corrupt to TF 141 and las vaqueros in MW2 , let's go back to MW2 , graves was free for combat , he might just kill them without warning , but he didn't do that , there's no other way for graves for threaten them , because graves saving himself and shadow company from sheperd ...
Indeed
I kinda agree graves betrayal in mw2 was kinda stupid it came out of nowhere so I hope in the long run he ends up being a full ally with 141 rather than like a enemy of my enemy sort or relationship.
No. Graves should've refuse to take this order. Killing Soap, Ghost and Alejandro? He could've explain them the situation and continue to work with them. Taking Alejandro's base was low and coward move too. Graves was feeling himself too much. "I can take the whole damn country" this didn't even sound like a joke. That guy is dangerious and who knows what in the future he will pull out.
I think the same, I mean he looks more like a grey character and maybe we can have a redemption for him in the future. He's a good character with a good potential and for a reason they brought him back
@@namiromero5530 nooo , graves isn't guy like that , i believe there's a BIG RISK for graves and shadow company if they won't take those order , boy don't u forget who give them those order ??
It's from someone with rank 4 STARS GENERAL ( sheperd ) , not leutenant , not captain , not major , not colonel , not even admiral , it's 4 STARS GENERAL
Alex and Graves need more scenes together. They seem like they would work real good together
Price knew it, thats why he called him hahahaa
That's quite dangerous take off innit?
What color is Graves Hair? Because i swear in every cutscene it's a different color and don't say It's the lightening this dude's hair is holographic like a pokemon card.
dark blonde, I think.
Light brown.
I see the 2 comments have cleared things up beautifully.
@@praetorian9823 But mine is of course the correct one. It's definitely more blonde than brown. Hence we call it "dark blonde". 😁
This is the actor btw: static.wikia.nocookie.net/shadesofblue/images/1/11/Warren-Kole.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20170427041520
His eye colour in-game is different, too!
Bro wanted to say hello but get rejected (coated in camera)
Not really Gaz taped him arm
Did he just fist bumb Graves' arm?!
Yes
I was like "Gaz didn't give a f about Graves." XD
"1" soaps last words
Graves wants to be one of the boys so bad.
idc what yall say about Graves! Farah and Alex may not witness Graves and his Shadows fight Task Force 141 but they did not let their emotions get to them, you get me? Also, to be fair, Alejandro shouldn't have chosen anger when Graves told him that his Shadows detained his men... detained, not killed... coulda done it in a diplomatic solution butttt they chose aggressive negotiationssss!
Ah yes mercanaries detain your soldiers and you sit down to have tea with them
@@theclone9123. Graves gave 141 a warning bro and what did they do? they attacked first...
@@jamezzz0035 No shit my man. Why wouldn't they attack first if there base was literally being stolen lmfao
@jameszzz0035 tbh the Shadow shooted first rather warned them or give second chance to give up and they end up fighting
Typical police boot licker comment
Detaining the literally legal special forces by dark web soldier lmao Alejandro is the right here
say what you want, the cutscenes of this game look almost photoreal...
Alex and his dead eyes
I like Alex's mustache
This is our MW3 cannon event 😔
Gaz got flashback 💀
Gaz acting Ghost be like:
Happy alex is back
His presence felt really unnecessary in this one
Man it’s hard to hate Graves. Gaz is completely justified in his reaction though.
He taped Graves arm
0:26 easy for graves to shed his skin like a snake and act brand new as if he didn’t try killing soap and ghost in las almas, rat bastard, good for gaz no engaging with the enemy.
He fist bumped his arm
Farah so small lol
He didn’t try to kill them his men did.
And How Graves Is Alive After Soap And Rodolfo Kills Graves His Tank From Modern Warfare 2 Mission: Ghost Team Graves Supposed To Die
He wasn’t in the tank.
My guess is probably it was one of his Guys. Using a voiceover of Graves. Decoy basically
Or maybe he was controlling the tank remotely
Maybe. We’ll never know
Search the warzone cutscenes and it explains how graces is alive specifically season 5
That was a pretty cool runway scene though
Am I the only one who thinks the characters look funny? Especially Alex and Graves. They don't look the same. Look at 0:42 Alex looks so wonky.
Different studio different models
@@zaloon148 Why did they change studios?
@@BCastless they originally had infinity ward for the first two but for mw3 they switched to sledgehammer games. I'm not sure why but sledgehammer games also developed the originals so I have no idea how they fumbled so hard w this one
@@zaloon148 Ah that's disappointing. I definitely preferred Infintiy ward.
No the studios for the campaign are the same. IW Still made the campaign whilest SHG Made the mp
You know, Graves never did want to to what he did to Ghost, Soap and Alejandro. He was merely following orders as per his contract, he was a true soldier.
Honestly I don't find it weird if Graves decides to help Price and the rest of the Task Force by giving them intel directly or by assisting them on missions to hunt down Makarov as he is no longer under Shepherd's leash.
They could’ve been bros but noooooo! Shepherd just had to sick him on them.
why did he think trying to shake his hand was a good idea?? was his logic being "I didnt try to kill you, I tried to kill your friends. so we should be cool!!"
Come on, how can you *not* love graves? Yes, he tried to kill task force 141, but that's what we like about him. It's just business
It’s just business is even worse in my books. To be so indifferent to betraying and killing allies would rub anyone the wrong way
I know it's a game but Farah looks so beautiful there damn!
What the fuck, how is Alex alive?!?
There’s so many guys on this comments section basically saying “I can fix him” about Graves, and I find it hilarious.
Well only case that is understandable
It was Shepherd's doing not Graves
He wasn't the one that started shooting until one of them nervous triggered. Shepherd was the real asshole
@@mahirmuhammad2325 What was Shepherd’s doing? He didn’t order the execution of civilians? And even if he did, Graves has a right to disobey unlawful orders. You would think he would, if so many insist he’s “one of the good guys.”
This campaign would've been better if there was a mission where you had to fight off konnis ac130..considering how in the first mission they had a sub and had a way of entering the gulag from the sky
1:14 epic as shit!!! We ride into battle boys!!!
Remind me of Cold War cod
@@josephalcala6451where do we landing now boys ? 😂
@@saimyintmyat9373 at Mexico lol
Graves was literally just doing his job, he was literally following orders regardless them of being right or wrong, it’s his job to follow orders from the top that’s why he doesn’t hold anything against task 141, but task 141 can’t move on and u can’t blame them since they don’t just follow orders, they do what is right.
Yeah lets just forget the war crimes lol
I really want a Graves and Shadow Company vs Konni and Makarov. Two bad ass mercenary groups duking it out. Makarov will most likely win but I think it is a fitting end for Graves and the shadows.
IMO, Makarov is more of Graves’s adversary than Price. Both are commanders of PMCs. Both PMCs have been at each other’s throat since their *clears throat* first surprising encounter.
Only Cutscene with music in it
I know this game sucks but damn this was a good cutscene.
Graves is the best thing to come out of the new trilogy. Besides that MW3 campaign is GARBAGE
Graves is the best character in the rebooted series.
Fr
He didn’t try too kill gas though did he? Pretty sure it was just ghost and soap. Gas wasn’t there he was with captain price
You have to remember the members of 141 are all very close and deeply respect each other, I’d do the same if close friends had attempts on their lives made by someone you considered an ally.
Say what you will about the rest of the game, but still looks darn beautiful.
Alex still the best character and he got done dirty bruh
Alex should be in 141 hopefully they don’t bitch out and the last game this time has all the homies involved love that yuri is present still!
Are Alex and Farah boning or what?
It's pretty evident 😂