I love it. But IMO here is another alternative idea to it. What if in part 6 Kakyoin had a son? So parts 3 through 5 are the same and same with the first 5 episodes of Stone Ocean. But there is a huge change to Kakyoin's life style. So in late 89 to early 90 Kakyoin finds a girl that goes to college with him and they start hanging out and in 91 ultimately are married. In 1993 they welcome there son Tenmie to the world and in 2000 they welcome there daughter Roxanne (or Roxy for short) to the world. So during 6 Kakyoin needs to know how is Jolyne doing and so he sends out his son Tenmie (who was also born with a stand and one similar to his but can also summon other stuff such as ruby's, diamonds, ext) to give as much intel as possible to the defeat of Pucci. But not wanting to be the cause of his childs death he sends out Josuke to go with him as backup. So the 2 make it to the prison with the 2 of them along with Jolyne investigating the inside of the prison with Kakyoin and the Speedwagon Foundation doing the outside of the prison while also giving Josuke the arrow in case of an emergency. Pucci would later find out about Tenmie and Josuke and would go to target them. So after taking out Foo Fighters he targets them with almost killing Tenmie in the process but Josuke picks the heroic decision to fight off Pucci thus diying in the process and leaving the arrow behind for Tenmie to keep. The story goes mostly the same but Tenmie is able to prevent Weather Report from his death with him being involved as well. Tenmie also helps Jolyne and Anasui against C Moon and when Jotaro returns it's also followed up by Kakyoin. Kakyoin would try to use the 20 meter emerald splash to get the jump on Pucci but Pucci avoids the attack following it up as well by killing Kakyoin straight after. Tenmie gets pissed after watching his father get killed followed by Anasui, Ermes, and Jotaro who still die like in cannon. So Tenmie uses the arrow to gain a requiem ability that counters MIH and can also heal wounds to prevent his other friends from diying. Pucci is killed by Tenmie and Jolyne doing a combined only to let Weather Report to get the killing blow in defeating Pucci. Jolyne, Tenmie, Emporio, and Weather all survive the part and Jolyne would marry Tenmie in 2014 or 2015 with Weather Report adopting Emporio. But still I like your ending idea.
I like your idea, but I think more characters like Hermes or Anasui or Foo Fighters should live. Like at least one of them TBH as at least one of Jolyne's jobros have to survive.
@@tristanpflughoft8911 yeah seems legit. Honestly just make Risotto the new main threat, he would work as a main threat to the cast, and I think a reversed version of it can be Giorno or Bruno (depending who owns the gang in this timeline) defending there top spot from Risotto and I could see Bruno, Abbacchio, and Narachia still diying to Risotto instead and maybe Fugo would die as well since he doesn't leave. Giorno, Mista, and Trish probably survive TBH. But that's one way Golden Wind can go without Diavolo and that's making Risotto the new main antagonist.
@@tristanpflughoft8911 true. So if someone died then probably Narachia and Mista as they were idiots. And Bruno probably dies as Jobber says in the video he still becomes a zombie.
On a side note I would love to see an animation for this and other Jojo what ifs (like the Fugo one) kinda like Marvel What If but in like movie style plus imagine some of the character interactions for Kakyoin with characters like Josuke, Rohan, Koichi, Okuyasu, Jolyne, ext.
Awesome vid, just a couple of questions, what if Kakyoin fought Diavolo one v one like Polnareff would he do any better? And do you think youd ever do a video ranking each of the JoJo groups like in a tier list there are a couple of those but they definitely wouldn't be as accurate as yours.
IMO Kakyoin would defeat Diavolo had they fought like how Polnareff originally did. Starting off, Heriophant Green has a supposed range of 382 meters, and can easily be from Jotaro to a completely different spot. It can take control of a person’s body, and whenever damage is inflicted to the possessed person, they become injured. Secondly, we should note that Kakyoin is fine with killing someone who he views as pure evil. As Diavolo is easily pure evil, with him not caring for anyone he has killed or hurt, intentionally or not. Heriophant Green could use his 20 Meter Radius Emrald Splash to trigger KC’s Time Erase out of him, which could help Kakyoin make a plan. KC also has a range of 2 meters, while Kakyoin’s is way higher. Before you try and say that he doesn’t have a range of 2 meters, we should note that Josuke possess a range of 2 meters and has a D in range, while someone else has the same range with another aspect. The only thing that Diavolo has better than Kakyoin stats is the fact that he has an A in range, precision, and potential. While Kakyoin DOES appear to higher range, it appears Diavolo only lacks in range and durability (which is something Kakyoin is good with.) But I believe Kakyoin would have defeated Diavolo in Italy, and assuming he did then it's likely we'd have a boss who's trying to help Bruno and Giorno rather than one going after them, Risotto and La Squadra would be the main antagonist for the group to deal with instead, and Trish would be absent from the story. But assuming Diavolo somehow was able to defeat Kakyoin? Well if he's dead then the story would be the same as the OG JoJo except Koichi goes like in cannon and no one is there to help Team Bucciarati go against Diavolo. But if he survives but gets injured then it be the same as OG JoJo but Kakyoin is there in Polnareff's place and I personally believe he'd deal with him a lot earlier and maybe we can get him and Giorno in part 6?
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573kakyoin could never defeat diavolo, any 20 meter emerald splash would be epitaphed so diavolo would just skip time to right behind kakyoin and kill him. That's assuming he could even lead diavolo into a situation where he can use that, which tbh he probably could but like I said he wouldn't have a chance. Normal emerald splash has the same issue and marionette wouldn't work because diavolo wouldn't think twice about killing a possessed person. Even if he attacked diavolo from ages away diavolo could still erase time and I sincerely doubt hierophant could survive a king crimson donut from behind. Only possible scenario is kakyoin attacking him whilst he is doppio
@@sndsunderstagel3114 Oh my apologies. But yeah Diavolo might win so if Kakyoin does take Diavolo's bait, he gets put in Polnareff's positions instead. Also, IG another question I wonder is in this timeline, assuming Kakyoin is busy with his own investigation and stuff, what would happen if instead, Jotaro decided to investigate Italy and look into Diavolo's identity instead of Polnareff? IDK I think that is also an interesting debate, plus assuming Jotaro is put in Polnareff's place in 5, how would Kakyoin do in parts 4 and 6 in Jotaro's spot?
As sad as one of them having to die, if Kakyoin can last into his 40's then that would be a win in my books -especially if he has a kid or even his cousin from the side manga-
I agree, and I think Kakyoin would have a family if he lived. He was around the same age that Jotaro was, so I think he'd become a husband and eventually a father IMO, and I believe if Kakyoin had a son or daughter or both, then I believe the universe wouldn't reset. If interested I can tell you my own version of what I think this timeline would look like?
Hey but at least Kakyoin got to live a longer life beforehand. Also Joseph might still be alive (really old though, but still alive) also if the part ends with the new universe still Jotaro and Kakyoin could both still be alive in a way.
As much as I like Polnareff I agree. I like him but I can sacrifice him for Kakyoin to live. While obviously he is gonna die in part 6 it doesn't matter to me I would like to see an older Kakyoin in the later parts over the wasted opportunity known as part 5 Polnareff.
Seems like a nice change of pace in doing what if videos. Can’t wait for the next one lol.
this video is gonna blow up in no time im calling it
I love it. But IMO here is another alternative idea to it. What if in part 6 Kakyoin had a son? So parts 3 through 5 are the same and same with the first 5 episodes of Stone Ocean. But there is a huge change to Kakyoin's life style. So in late 89 to early 90 Kakyoin finds a girl that goes to college with him and they start hanging out and in 91 ultimately are married. In 1993 they welcome there son Tenmie to the world and in 2000 they welcome there daughter Roxanne (or Roxy for short) to the world. So during 6 Kakyoin needs to know how is Jolyne doing and so he sends out his son Tenmie (who was also born with a stand and one similar to his but can also summon other stuff such as ruby's, diamonds, ext) to give as much intel as possible to the defeat of Pucci. But not wanting to be the cause of his childs death he sends out Josuke to go with him as backup. So the 2 make it to the prison with the 2 of them along with Jolyne investigating the inside of the prison with Kakyoin and the Speedwagon Foundation doing the outside of the prison while also giving Josuke the arrow in case of an emergency. Pucci would later find out about Tenmie and Josuke and would go to target them. So after taking out Foo Fighters he targets them with almost killing Tenmie in the process but Josuke picks the heroic decision to fight off Pucci thus diying in the process and leaving the arrow behind for Tenmie to keep. The story goes mostly the same but Tenmie is able to prevent Weather Report from his death with him being involved as well. Tenmie also helps Jolyne and Anasui against C Moon and when Jotaro returns it's also followed up by Kakyoin. Kakyoin would try to use the 20 meter emerald splash to get the jump on Pucci but Pucci avoids the attack following it up as well by killing Kakyoin straight after. Tenmie gets pissed after watching his father get killed followed by Anasui, Ermes, and Jotaro who still die like in cannon. So Tenmie uses the arrow to gain a requiem ability that counters MIH and can also heal wounds to prevent his other friends from diying. Pucci is killed by Tenmie and Jolyne doing a combined only to let Weather Report to get the killing blow in defeating Pucci. Jolyne, Tenmie, Emporio, and Weather all survive the part and Jolyne would marry Tenmie in 2014 or 2015 with Weather Report adopting Emporio. But still I like your ending idea.
I like your idea, but I think more characters like Hermes or Anasui or Foo Fighters should live. Like at least one of them TBH as at least one of Jolyne's jobros have to survive.
@@andyballiet3600oh ok. Then FF can survive because Josuke is diying in that arc instead so she can still be alive for the rest of the part IG.
Wow this is a really cool video. Also what happens to the rest of the part 5 villains like Metallica guy and Diavolo's minions?
Risotto may be killed by Brunos crew since he doesn't know any of this happened. Chiocolata and Secco would be killed but the rest idk
@@tristanpflughoft8911 yeah seems legit. Honestly just make Risotto the new main threat, he would work as a main threat to the cast, and I think a reversed version of it can be Giorno or Bruno (depending who owns the gang in this timeline) defending there top spot from Risotto and I could see Bruno, Abbacchio, and Narachia still diying to Risotto instead and maybe Fugo would die as well since he doesn't leave. Giorno, Mista, and Trish probably survive TBH. But that's one way Golden Wind can go without Diavolo and that's making Risotto the new main antagonist.
@@andyballiet3600 I think Abbachio would live cuz he was one of the more intelligent members of Bruno's group, same with Fugo
@@tristanpflughoft8911 true. So if someone died then probably Narachia and Mista as they were idiots. And Bruno probably dies as Jobber says in the video he still becomes a zombie.
We need more JoJo what-ifs.
I actually do have some Jojo what if videos.
Good video! I would like to see one video with all the Stardust Crusaders surviving
There’s an answer to that, jojos bizarre married life
@@hornie_pie_7861 Damn, i hope i never remembered that lol
@@markiller8879 look it up, very much worth it :))))
@@markiller8879 would love to make a Jojo animation where everyone survives Stardust Crusaders one day. But I need to get better at animating first.
@@markiller8879 I could tell you a way on how I would have them survive Stardust Crusaders if you are interested?
On a side note I would love to see an animation for this and other Jojo what ifs (like the Fugo one) kinda like Marvel What If but in like movie style plus imagine some of the character interactions for Kakyoin with characters like Josuke, Rohan, Koichi, Okuyasu, Jolyne, ext.
Plot twist the animators reworked jojos and changed kakyoins death to make their community happy
Awesome vid, just a couple of questions, what if Kakyoin fought Diavolo one v one like Polnareff would he do any better? And do you think youd ever do a video ranking each of the JoJo groups like in a tier list there are a couple of those but they definitely wouldn't be as accurate as yours.
IMO Kakyoin would defeat Diavolo had they fought like how Polnareff originally did. Starting off, Heriophant Green has a supposed range of 382 meters, and can easily be from Jotaro to a completely different spot. It can take control of a person’s body, and whenever damage is inflicted to the possessed person, they become injured. Secondly, we should note that Kakyoin is fine with killing someone who he views as pure evil. As Diavolo is easily pure evil, with him not caring for anyone he has killed or hurt, intentionally or not. Heriophant Green could use his 20 Meter Radius Emrald Splash to trigger KC’s Time Erase out of him, which could help Kakyoin make a plan. KC also has a range of 2 meters, while Kakyoin’s is way higher. Before you try and say that he doesn’t have a range of 2 meters, we should note that Josuke possess a range of 2 meters and has a D in range, while someone else has the same range with another aspect. The only thing that Diavolo has better than Kakyoin stats is the fact that he has an A in range, precision, and potential. While Kakyoin DOES appear to higher range, it appears Diavolo only lacks in range and durability (which is something Kakyoin is good with.) But I believe Kakyoin would have defeated Diavolo in Italy, and assuming he did then it's likely we'd have a boss who's trying to help Bruno and Giorno rather than one going after them, Risotto and La Squadra would be the main antagonist for the group to deal with instead, and Trish would be absent from the story. But assuming Diavolo somehow was able to defeat Kakyoin? Well if he's dead then the story would be the same as the OG JoJo except Koichi goes like in cannon and no one is there to help Team Bucciarati go against Diavolo. But if he survives but gets injured then it be the same as OG JoJo but Kakyoin is there in Polnareff's place and I personally believe he'd deal with him a lot earlier and maybe we can get him and Giorno in part 6?
And IDK what to do for the other question, sorry.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573kakyoin could never defeat diavolo, any 20 meter emerald splash would be epitaphed so diavolo would just skip time to right behind kakyoin and kill him. That's assuming he could even lead diavolo into a situation where he can use that, which tbh he probably could but like I said he wouldn't have a chance. Normal emerald splash has the same issue and marionette wouldn't work because diavolo wouldn't think twice about killing a possessed person. Even if he attacked diavolo from ages away diavolo could still erase time and I sincerely doubt hierophant could survive a king crimson donut from behind. Only possible scenario is kakyoin attacking him whilst he is doppio
@@sndsunderstagel3114 Oh my apologies. But yeah Diavolo might win so if Kakyoin does take Diavolo's bait, he gets put in Polnareff's positions instead. Also, IG another question I wonder is in this timeline, assuming Kakyoin is busy with his own investigation and stuff, what would happen if instead, Jotaro decided to investigate Italy and look into Diavolo's identity instead of Polnareff? IDK I think that is also an interesting debate, plus assuming Jotaro is put in Polnareff's place in 5, how would Kakyoin do in parts 4 and 6 in Jotaro's spot?
The true ending
*the worst ending of all time very bad not good (I'm the number one polnareff fan)
We need more jojo what ifs bro fr.
The legend has returned.
Giorno would think that Jotaro is Crazy because he is talking about his father DIO but there is this: Dio in italy means God
As sad as one of them having to die, if Kakyoin can last into his 40's then that would be a win in my books
-especially if he has a kid or even his cousin from the side manga-
I agree, and I think Kakyoin would have a family if he lived. He was around the same age that Jotaro was, so I think he'd become a husband and eventually a father IMO, and I believe if Kakyoin had a son or daughter or both, then I believe the universe wouldn't reset. If interested I can tell you my own version of what I think this timeline would look like?
A nightmare timeline
I find it a pretty good timeline
Kinda sad how the crusaders all died eventually no matter who swaps deaths they face the same fate one way or another
Hey but at least Kakyoin got to live a longer life beforehand. Also Joseph might still be alive (really old though, but still alive) also if the part ends with the new universe still Jotaro and Kakyoin could both still be alive in a way.
Seeing how we still get the Irene ending in this timeline, both Jotaro and Kakyoin are probably living a happy life now.
Gha damn
LET'S GET IT
Jobber, the discord link in the older videos dosent work anymore
The Discord Server has been nuked, didn’t want a public server anymore
@@JobberGodot ah i see, i just saw a video where you said that you will answer questions and i just had a verry specific diver dive question
Jobbergoatdot
KakyoinLand?
Kakyoin would replace Polneraff TBH. But I like your idea to the video TBH.
Oh. This is an interesting topic! I’m curious for what your answer might be.
do mih pucci vs d4c love train
Cool what if.
FINALLY!!!!!!!
Jobber
Do you have a link to the Araki Interview or whatever it was where he states that Jolyne her strength improves throughout stone ocean?
If you turn on the subs you well discover that jotaro is jorden
First?
@@error-4269 lol
First 👀
I hate to say it, but it was a better story without Polnareff...
As much as I like Polnareff I agree. I like him but I can sacrifice him for Kakyoin to live. While obviously he is gonna die in part 6 it doesn't matter to me I would like to see an older Kakyoin in the later parts over the wasted opportunity known as part 5 Polnareff.