Rebuilding the steering on the Model A with some upgraded parts!
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- My father has a 1928 Ford Model A that he loves driving, and today we get a few more maintenance items wrapped up.
On this episode, we’ll work on getting out some of the slop in the steering, change the tie rod ends and drag link ends, as well as diagnose a bad vibration in the engine.
In between builds, you can follow along on our social media at:
/ autoanatomyus
www.gofundme.com/f/autoanatomy
Thanks,
Sean, Christie, and the Auto Anatomy team 
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I just picked up my first model A, it’s a 31 Victoria. This is the first time in 25 years or ever that I had a car in my garage. Thanks for your video I will be looking for more.
Very nice looking car. These cars are easy to work on and I think a lot of fun to repair. The real treasure is the time you spend with your dad. Looking forward to more videos.
Thank you, and I totally agree. Look forward to seeing him and the car over Christmas
I'm about to chase down a few steering issues like you guys did. I have a hoist (Lift as you guys call it), so that should make the job easier. However, here in Australia being Right Hand Drive, the steering box is jammed under the carburetor which makes things a bit more difficult. Grrr.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for checking out our channel, and I can't imagine everything being shoved over on the right side. Gotta be tough!
Sean
What did you use to get that front steering rod off that comes from the steering box? There is a large flat groove
Thanks for the video. Never can learn enough on the Model A. Any update on the front motor mount?
It was replaced with a new unit. The vibration is still there, albeit somewhat improved. Ultimately it would be nice to have the engine rebuilt and balanced, but that's another project for another day. Thanks for watching, and check out some of the other content on the channel!
The top bolt preloads the worm bearings, you NEVER adjust that unless you take the pitman arm off. You need to feel the tightness of the bearings by moving the wheel while adjusting that bolt, or you may crack that very expensive upper race. THe race will not even move unless you loosing the clamp bolt on the steering housing. So you ended up not doing anything by playing with that.
The bottom adjustment on the steering box is to center the sector to the worm. You jack up the front wheels and adjust the screw (swinging the bottom of the sector housing) to were the steering wheel feels tightest when the front wheels are straight ahead. THEN you adjust the top nut (that swings the top of the sector housing) until the play in the wheel is nearly gone.
The play in the steering wheel may be due to worn sector shaft bushings, one person steers the wheel back and forth while the other person watches the shaft /pitman arm moving in an up and down motion.
I did not notice you checking the steering balls for roundness. Those balls being out of round will make the wheels hard to turn. The parts inside the tie rod and drag link seldom wear out!
Check the tightness of the front wheel bearings, too loose the car will wander and wobble.
Also check if the king pin bushings are loose by grabbing the top of the front tire and shaking the car back and forth. If you feel looseness then the bushings are shot (if the wheel bearings are adjusted correctly).
One must grease all of the fittings every 500 miles (as per Ford instructions) or you will wear the entire front end out.
Agree with not adjusting the top bolt. I tried that many years ago on my '29 A and it did not help anything and it had a hard "notchy"spots while turning the wheel. I loosened it up before any damage. Sloppy steering from the gear box is really not repairable with out replacing the two gears which back in my day (1954 you could not get new ones). The oil will leak out of all these boxes. The bottom seals ALL leak. Put GREASE in the box if you can replace the gears.
@@oldguy2800 i have a 1929 model a and is got the same problem lots of movement in the steering wheel How do I fix it. Thanks
Thanks for the good video.
the only way to properly adjust the steering play, is to pull the entire steering wheel assembly, out of the car. the upper adjustment, on the column, when first adjusted, after a total rebuild, should never need adjusting. what that adjustment does, is simply to lock in place, the upper bearing race, but it does nothing to adjust the steering play. Take the entire steering out of the car, then take the Lash out of the steering gear in the steering box.
Great information, thanks!
Those front engine mount springs are not original. They are an inferior early aftermarket part with rubber inserts.
Good to know, thanks!
Did replacing the tie rod ends help your steering problem at all?
It’s certainly tighter than it was, but didn’t fix it entirely.
Did you guy take apart the steering box to track down the steering wheel play?
No, we started with the easy things first. We replaced all the end link cups and then (per the manual) adjusted the box. We ultimately need to take apart the box but wanted to address the known wear parts before jumping to big stuff. Thanks for checking out our channel!
@@AutoAnatomy Are you planning on doing a tear down for the steering box? I only ask because I have the same amount of steering wheel play and I'm watching all the videos I can to better understand what do and how to do it.
@@Dreadfish_1 Not sure yet, at some point we will but for right now it’s not annoying enough to fix.
Sean
That car appears to have been cosmetically restored only. A lot of mechanical work needs to be done. Check the pitman and drag link balls as well. Certainly shot. Good luck!
It certainly was cosmetically restored with a decent amount of mechanical work done. We checked out the pitman & drag link balls and they were in good shape. It gets driven at least once a week and is a ton of fun!
Thanks for checking out our channel!
Auto Anatomy good to know. Sure is a sharp one! Did you get the slack out of it?
The Eccentric Hobbyist We got some of the slack out, the rest is in the steering box itself. Haven’t played with it in a while
This might go to deaf ears but you should use a remote microphone.
Thanks for the feedback, I’ve actually done that since this video was filmed. Thanks for checking out the channel!
If they don't like the video move along
the ONLY way to properly adjust the Model A steering; is take the entire column out of the car.
You got into it just enough to see something, but never deae enough to solve the real problems. Very incomplete.
Sometimes in doing these videos I don’t get to finish the project the way I would like. That car is 1200 miles from me, and if parts have to be ordered then I may not be able to film the completion. I try and make updates on the other ones as I can, but that’s not always possible.
I’d ask for a little grace in the future about some of the cars, knowing that I’d also like to see the videos a bit more complete.
Sean
Feel it would be helpful to remove this video. Not sure of the goal of this video. In my opinion, appears like random part changing and an incomplete description of a steering box adjustment.
Michael, first off thank you for checking out the video. The purpose was not to provide a tutorial on steering box adjustment. I am clear that my desire is to learn alongside everyone and gain knowledge along the way. Secondly, I'm not going to remove the video as this is also about spending time with my father. As we age things like this become more valuable, and I can watch this video and remember working on old cars with my dad. It's like home movies, if you will.
Sean