THE RAGE OF DURTHU - Can the Wood Elves Outrush Khorne? - Immortal Empires - Total War Warhammer 3
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- The Rage of Durthu is UNLEASHED as the Wood Elves test a Bladesinger rush against the melee armies of Khorne on Immortal Empires for Total War Warhammer 3. Can Durthu carry the day, or will the Daemons of Khorne prove too much?
Wood Elves vs. Khorne - Immortal Empires - Total War Warhammer 3
Bloodletters of Khorne art by T-razz - www.deviantart...
GG to Hora del Saqueo! - ruclips.net/user/HoraDelSaqueo
Bloodletter art by T-razz here - www.deviantart.com/t-razz/art/Gamesworkshop-Bloodletter-VS-chaos-warriors-642748880
One of these entities is an ageless creature fueled by wrath, and the other is an Exalted Bloodthirster.
Nice.
angry due to short people took an eye
In the end khorne olways wins 🩸💀
@@daltonbarries3529 **Gotrek looks to Durthu**
“Did we just become best friends?
I feel like the Dwellers Below is a must for a Durthu Build, just because so many times it comes down to him being mobbed at the end. Even if you don't end up using it... having it in your back pocket is really nice.
yeah that would be interesting. worth trying out!
it would have certainly made the difference in that one
I agree with you 100%. I was surprised to see Durthu without any spells
@@drifterodysseus6237 ya he lost gold bringing no spells, you pay for the caster tax to bring no spells is silly
I cannot fathom going up against Daemons, and thinking "I better leave the spells at home"
Khorne must hate fighting Wood Spirits. No blood OR skulls? Not worth it.
'SAP FOR THE BLOOD GOD' really doesn't have the same ring to it
Any blood or skulls works, so all those dead chaos warriors and bloodletter's is good enough for Khorne!
SAP FOR THE SAP GOD
BARK FOR THE BARK THRONE
NO BlOOD DLC YET, SAP FOR THE SAP THRONE!
Good kindling though...
I am reminded of a scene from an episode of Matt Smith's Doctor Who, where the Daleks admit that the insane Daleks contained in their asylum were not exterminated on the grounds that said insane Dalek's hatred was beautiful. The Doctor naturally being disgusted by this revelation. I'm guessing that, as much as a rage-filled tree that he is, Durthu would most likely be disgusted if his hatred was praised by Khornate daemons of all things. A case of _"Your approval fills me with shame"._
another wordsmith joins Indy in the chat.... welcome good sir..
pre endtimes durthu would probably go "your approval fills me with rage!"
Durthu the (H?)Edge Lord
That last part is reminiscent of the "Dalek" episode, in season one, where the dalek in it tells The Doctor "you would make a good dalek."
A TVTropes enthusiast eh?
Jesus you just really don’t understand how strong the hellforged host is until there fighting againts units with 50 MD plus and killing them in 10 seconds
A large part of that was cause of how much they infiltrated the unit. It wasn't them attacking the front wall of spears and only exposed to however many are in the front, but every single demon had contact with a separate unit.
@@Zayl1016 I doubt it would have made to much difference in that entire fight they may have lost 3 models even if they were braced
I mean if any infantry deserved to be that insane in melee it’s RoR bloodletters… if khorne ain’t the best at melee something has gone wrong.
@@Swampert919 true enough! and it isn't like there are no ways to get around them like shooting or magic. so they are allowed to be that good in a brawl.
I still think the stooges are better tho.
Oh my god indy you've been absolutely spraying us with sick content lately thank you so much
sure thing Seth lots more on the way!
I just want to say that you produce the best multiplayer battles on the platform. Other content creators just tend to hover over the battlefield with a few failed attempts at close-ups. But your style of filming is great. You even take time to provide cinematic shots of key moments.
The only man that rivals your quality is Zerkovich himself.
never thought i would root for wood elfs over khorne, god damn this was a good battle
Root hehehehhehehehe
The winter heart eternal guard? more like the melting heart temporary guard!
Need to see Nurgle vs VC
GIND OH GLORIOUS GRIND
A six hour battle.
it shall happen!
I feel like flesh hounds could have a 100 gold cost increase and would still be an auto include in a lot of matchups. I get that khorne needs anti backline units, but they are pretty oppressive for their cost.
they are extremely good lol
That is because hounds in WH2 were super thrash at doing anything but kiting.
They are a very vital unit for a faction with no range or spellcasting. So they should be adjusted with caution.
@@sworntoavenge Yeah the thing is khorne has no cheap units no ranged no magic so they need effective mobility or they are doomed.
With no magic and only one very shitty ranged unit of their own, they need strong back line harassers like Flesh Hounds. Let's maybe take a moment and see how the faction holds up in MP overall before we nerf another unit into oblivion.
I love the tactical analysis and the drawing on the replay, adds so much value to this video!
All of this good Immortal Empires content out there but I must say yours is the best. I like your commentary and how you aren't afraid to try risky but interesting builds. Keep up the good work.
will do mate glad you're enjoying!
Dirthu wasn't trapped in there with them, they were trapped in there with him!
Great match - was really surprised by the premise and I was guessing right up until the end
Bromance im so happy that you are releasing IE battles now. TWW3 were ok but they felt the fatigue of the months after release. Keep em coming u hottie u.
These match ups are something I have been waiting a long time for. Absolutely awesome battle.
Glad to see that the Bladesingers have had that weird green flame effect on their swords toned down a lot.
Chad Indypride showing new maps every video!
The old races are looking mighty beautiful in Warhammer 3’s improved visuals!
I think the life caster could have got away in straight lines. Changing pathing slows and stutters the unit just enough to let charge animations kick in. GG either way. This was my theory craft build with Khorne vs ranged but I want furies over more dogs if I can adjust the costs somewhere. Cool to see if played correctly it could maybe handle a counter rush melee build.
I was very happy with the Exalted Balrog play! Just be patient, use up all the breath attacks, take easy fights and then save the hard ones for last. It is the same with N'kari. You do not want to YOLO your precious Greater Daemons into the things that can actually hurt them!
glade riders with hagbane tips might be really good for dealing with hounds. They are fast, have magic ammo, and with the poison slowing the hounds, they just won't be able to catch you. the poison willalso just help in general to blunt their damage dealing capibilities so they don't right through you quite so fast.
I'm sorry Durthu didn't pull off the win but seeing him slap that Bloodthirster around was deeply satisfying.
i think the biggest weakness in your build was the glade riders to me they just seem worthless to bring as well khornes not gonna be bringing any squishy archers or anything and yk u need units like hunter of kurnos to win v hounds i think zoats could be a big winner in this matchupif you are trying to match khorne in melee like here
True, I was wondering about those as well.
Those glade riders are pretty essential for screening against flesh hounds. Even if they don't do a whole lot of damage, they can defend the bladesingers and soak up charges long enough for Durthu to come over.
Love your casting of this new multiplayer content. Looking forward to the all new matchups
Woo! Finally getting to see Durthu against daemons
u get a lot of requests ofcourse but i can't wait to see a battle of warriors of chaos vs khorne, to be precise skarbrand vs kholek to see just who got the most brute power. keep up the good work man!
I was asking this question! I love Wood Elves Melee, thanks for doing this.
"Today we'll be answering a question no one was asking." I'm not sure if I come here for fresh warhammer content or for that dry wit.
Damn what a sick battle dude. Great match. Pretty close especially considering what happened to the winter heart guard. Unit should be triggered to ignore initial order and start defending itself in a situation like that.
I wonder if less cav and/or spears and more blade singers/add some tree kin in (firebark elders for fire resist?) would work for a melee rush. Blade singers might lose dmg on the charge to flesh hounds but think could cut thru their model count, treekin support would help. Maybe wardancers/Asrai spears for cheaper option depending on cost.
Curious also how dryads might trade into bloodletters compared to eternal guard also given they do high dmg to low armor and have magic attacks despite any fire dmg they might take.
your commentary is top shelf, great damn game... whew barn burner for sure... wp sir
When the wood chops back
I'm loving seeing these older factions match up against the new
You needed more redheads. Don't be shy next time, bring the ginger tide ! :P
Loved the play by play reporting, subscribed.
welcome to the channel!
Is there anyway you can include if it's Domination or field battle, like in the description? I don't get the same enjoyment watching a Domination battle like I do with a field battle. Almost skipped the video aftet not seeing a description. Sorry if you've already addressed that and I missed it.
P.S. Big fan of your channel, thanks for all you do!
Ohh man, that feeling when you wish you had one more Sword of Daith.
Love these kinds of battles. So extremely close!
Bladesingers should have nurgling level animations, they are not nimble enough
Quack
Very valiant attempt to melee rush the best melee rush faction in the game. Biggest problem is khorne warriors, pretty much all of them for wood elves.
Eternal guards have AP, but are meant for anti large mostly so their attack is too low to hit warriors consistently. Blade singers are best really, but are really expensive and wardancers..I think they have the worst time. Their so low in hp and armor that any bloodletter will send them to a early grave and warriors have high armor/def that will grind down wardancers as well
Great video!
This is the first replay i've seen where khorne didn't get stomped into the ground, very satisfying! Albeit they were up against a build that favors them lol
Thanks for the video
Love your videos man keep it up 🤙
Loved this battle Indy! Not sure if Khorne will be able to combat sisters of twilight plus archer spam though.
they could probably, but I still have doubts since this is early access still
"Make like a tree and get the hell out of here" gets the like and the subscribe
Blood for the blood god!
I look forward to crushing any chaos force that encroaches on any sacred forest of the wood elves once Immortal Empires is released. Wood elves have some of the most fun campaign mechanics. They are soooo great at ambush tactics!
I think all wood elves, including Durthu, really need a core of high-end missiles. That's what was really missing in this match up.
6:02
BladeSinger: Does a spinning slash attack
Khorne Warrior: *Yeet*
It seems like this build needs at least a bit of archery, just to stop the Bloodthirster from getting all the value in the world from breath attacks.
Exalted bloodthirsters finally have eyes now! Halleluja!
"Not bad, not bad for a pointy eared elvish princeling..."
Make like a tree and... Branch.
Durthu is an absolute beast. Completely surrounded and still beating the shit out of him.
Beautiful match, can't wait for immortal empires
Swiftshiver shards will be a must against all Demons, but especially Khorne. Having a core of Deepscouts or Glade Guard will tear through with the magical attacks, at least in campaign. I’m not a multiplayer person for Total War, but for a kite build I’d say Deepwood Scouts w/Swiftshiver Shards would not be a misplay and would in fact be incredibly helpful with the Strider they have.
I like this matcup. NEver played itmyself.
I think i will try a mass cav with Durthu, maybe give him some blade singers and dryads with mass cav.
That melee rush ran into a Buzzsaw.
Very intersting matchup and game!
I keep saying "anti infantry infantry infantry infantry unit" to myself any time the Hellforged Host do something in this match.
"Can the magical forest tree huggers out-melee the God of Melee?"
daaaaaaaaaaang those flesh hounds are brutal! I'm curious as to what units old world factions will use to counter them. Definitely not other cav units lol (unless they're anti large)
that spellsinger might've won the fight vs the remaining 14 fleshhounds at 12:30 but the move orders kept her from doing any damage and lead to her death.
very unlikely for Spellsinger to win that fight. she'd just get staggered over and over after the surround. she was fleeing and for good reason
So i havent done the math on this, but how about blobbing with the firebark elders and a branchwraith?(u still get earth blood but also shadow magic and that nice melee attack aura)
Durthu and the bladesingers performed great so u keep those, maybe even get a third one (again not quite sure on the maths here), also get 4 eternal guard to protect the flanks and rear of the singer core. I dont think u can contest the fleshhound mobility on the ground here just because any khorne player in his right mind will bring tons against WE. But i think u could get away with hawk riders. Their only threat are furies and big scary demon and they should have enough speed to kite both of these. Furies u could probably kill in melee after a bit of kiting aswell (espescially with magic support, earth blood and/or eagle summon). And if the bloodthirster decides to chase after them, thats already great for you since he wont impact the battle in other ways.
Naturally this would only work in land battles, like most blob builds.
Durthu is an absolute badass
Is this available to all players or just the big youtubers?
This is early access. General release is next month.
Pre-battle: Both these guys are very green. One side serves CORN, after all, which fits the Elves' diet just fine. :)
More Wood Elves!! Asari Revenge!!
Winterheart Guard also weren't braced, meaning they didn't get their charge defense. With the Hellforged already having 50+ MA and then getting another 36 off the charge, it's not as suprising as it may seem at first. Considering their high WS and CB they probably very nearly one-shot the Winterheart models when charging.
Yeh, I was surprised to see them charge at all if I'm honest.
I approve of the boondocks saints reference
Safe to say, Flesh Hounds might need some tuning^^. The speed + mass + dmg output seems a bit too high for their price point.
Think the plan might be sisters of Thorne to kite and debuff khorne blobs/squishy khorne units. Maybe a single zoat and new dwellers is kinda insane!!
Those bladesingers will make great deamonettes 😈
Little shoutout to boondocks saints I see you indy
I'm so excited to call the children of the old ones to rise up again for IE.
I feel like deepwood scouts with SSSs will give Khorne fits
Guessing this was an agreed upon (no ranged units) match? Cause otherwise you would think anyone would use the elite ranged WE units to destroy Khorne units typically
nope just trying to catch Khorne off guard. Khorne can go very wide and bring tons of shielded chaos warriors though, so shooting isn't necessarily an easy victory/automatic choice either
@@milkandcookiesTW and it made for a BA video.
3:33 Dude you almost did something here
I wonder how Vampire Counts will fare against Khorne. Will they be able to cast enough spells in the span of the few seconds it will take for bloodletters to shred their skellies? Will their monstrous units be enough to match the monstrous fury of Khornate Warriors?
using "flesh of stone" can work really well to get that armor up
Flesh to Stone gives 60% physical resist
they changed Flesh to Stone in warhammer 3. it gives phys resist now as Tanchico said. not good vs. Daemons
My mistake
those elves were paper LMAO
The rage quit of derpthu
Ouch lol
Loving the Dawn of War 2 music 🎵 😉💜
You should have tried a Durthu-led Drycha army with Coeddil, treemen, treekin, dryads, and a variety of animals. That would be a far better army -- albeit more geared toward late game -- to fight against Khorne.
In an actual campaign battle, once Drycha gets the amber techs for anti-fire, poison, and treemen having their damage aura, I'm pretty confident they can win against pretty much any faction.
What? This isn't campaign
@@jtowensbyiii6018 You're right, I should have been more clear. The first paragraph is referring to an actual experiment; the second, I'm merely discussing theory.
into base contact he says, how to tell someone plays the miniatures XD
Durthu looking a bit like the Joker with that colour scheme.
Do you think firebark elders could be a niche unit for the matchup for fire resist? Idk how common fire damage is for khorne though, don’t have WH 3
Only the Bloodletters, Bloodthirsters and Skullcannons do fire, I think
But
The would've absolutely been valuable
Eternal Guard did nothing. Having some treekin to support those bladesingers, or firebark elders to contest the hellforged host would've gone a long way
I feel like those flesh hounds are gonna be a real problem for the older races
Hey Indy, did Khalida get any buffs or is she still just a meme lord? And besides the Realm of Souls buff the TKs got, did they get anything else in the buffs department?
that fight was amazing !
Would love to see Brettonia vs Slaanesh, who truly wears the Cav crown?
Bro those Winterheart Guard only lasted twice as long as I do in bed
best 2/3 on this one! DO IT
Damn, is this vanilla lighting Indy? Bretonnia looks absolutely stunning in Warhammer 3, no longer has like a sunny delight filter over it.
default lighting!
I wonder if Ogres would especially love fighting Khorne, considering their appetites would be riled up from the promise of fresh and hot Khorne dogs and lots of manflesh that's pre-tenderized due to constant combat and spicy with magical rage. :P
They'd hate it because daemons dematerialise when dead so they're left hungry
Indy, how does your game look so good?
This isn't meant as criticism because I've never played multiplayer so I'm just curious, but what's the reasoning behind fielding a wood elf army with no ranged units? Isn't that one of their main strengths as a faction?
Was definitely a great battle regardless!
Trying to catch out Khorne with his pants down, essentially. Fielding a wide build with lots of shielded chaos warrios would probably work reasonably well for Khorne against a ranged focused build. So the wood elves going melee rush against Khorne, could've been a nice idea. Unfortunately it didn't go down that well. Those Flesh Hounds are a big reason why, I'd say. Though the exalted bloodletters RoR did a good amount of work as well.
That sweet element of surprise. Everyone expects wood elves to have archers. Against high elves I do full melee rush, for example (partially because I was frustrated that glade guard are more expensive than high elf archers but have less range lol).