Good to hear you like them. Took mine out for a debut outing tonight and promising for sure. Just a bit more “beefed up” than previous versions I feel but, as you say, those ones are long gone.
I wouldn't be running 'round the same neighborhood for hours many times in a week if it weren't fun. Some reviews simply bury the fun factor in all the new-fangled tech of a shoe. Where's the joy in that? So, you nailed it! Ordered the Lemon Twist colorway online as a treat to myself.
Thank god for you reviews Ed, love to hear genuine thoughts and opinions, when every other reviewer is being careful of what they say bc they want to get the next shoe for free! Can’t wait to pick these up 👍
Not much point to a review if there’s too much on the fence stuff. Many shoes are pretty refined by the time of release as such there’s never any true stinkers. A few get through the net though
I really enjoy the Vomero 17 so I'm pretty sure, especially given your review, that I'll get along well with this shoe. I'll pick it up when it gets discounted. Great review Edd.
Well, obviously there are many who like the 10mm drop... but there are quite a few of us who wish it was more like 7 mm drop (but then we can buy the streakfly! Duh!)!
@@bluesque9687 yeah let’s hope the streakfly 2 delivers! I was huge fan of the tempo next percent because it had the same formula but hopefully it isn’t completely revamped
@@MatterofBased Yea, i am looking forward to streakfly 2 too... the early pics online tell us it is gonna have some sort of a plate... I think the foam is the hero element in these shoes, and I haven't tried Metaspeed Paris or SB2 yet, but I have always found zoomx is the best of them all! Nike has got it all and can wow us any moment, but they dont! Fingers crossed for SF2
Haven't brought a nike shoe since an old indestructible Pegasus I still occasionally wear to take the kids out on their bikes. But these look tempting. Especially in this colour way 😍
I think you're spot on my friend! I couldn't agree more on your breakdown. I picked up a pair and have done a few runs already. I was in the Invincible 3 previously but it was too heavy for me to pick up my pace. Not only does this shoe provide similar cushion/comfort, but it's much more stable than the Invincible 3. Already having a lot of fun in this ride as it's very responsive and light. Last note: I ordered and fit perfectly in my true size as well.
I've been staying away from plated shoes in my daily trainers and saving plates for race day. I am excited to try these with the Invincible 3 for a nice little ZoomX rotation
Nice one Edd. They look like a good versatile shoe. But I'm just finishing off the takumi Sen 9 (450 km) and have bought the Vomero 17 & Mach 6 for my next daily/long/tempo pairing.... As well as the Adios 7 still plenty of miles left ... So maybe one for the future mate. Btw saw the War on Drugs live recent tour in Liverpool, old school university gig 2k venue superb sound.... All the tracks sounded tremendous and great atmosphere, sweat from the roof!!!! Take it easy..😎🙌🏾👍🏾
Great work by War on Drugs. When I hear Adam Granofsky’s voice, can’t stop thinking of Don Henley. About Pegasus plus, I think is a nay for me. Cheers from Old Saigon, Vietnam.
Good stuff as usual Edd and it cheers the heart of a lifelong Nike fanboy to see them make their first decent non-plated trainer for about 3 years. However with an SL2 at £110 I will not be buying this bowling shoe. I hear there’s been some management changes in Nike’s running division so hopefully a sign of things to come.
Hey Edd! I had posted a comment early last year about seeing a picture online of the peg turbo making a comeback (it seemed like a rumour at the time), and you had replied that you were going to check that out! And since then i have waited for the shoe and your review of it equally eagerly! Wow time flies! Now that you think it is good, i am buying it this weekend! No further questions! :) I dont think i can wait for Ben Parkes or Tim Grose or the runtesters to review it... i was always baised towards this one! Love the Peg Turbo OG! Though you have pointed out that it is not the same zoomx as the one in the vaporflys or alphaflys or even in the peg turbos OG... i would still take it over any other foam! I am ditching Superblast 2 to buy this (thats the other option, and i know it could be a better shoe and you would suggest to opt for Superblast 2)!
@@EDDBUD Lol, as an acolyte of Turbo 1 and 2, that’s great news. I think a lot of people equate modern levels of stack height to better cushioning and protection, yet comparatively low stack Pegasus Turbo 1 and 2 were not only fun, but were kinder to my knees than any other shoe.
Super interesting shoe. I just got a pair of Invincible 3, so I'm not gonna buy them, but this seems like a great full Zoom X shoe that sits between Invincible 3 and Vaporfly 3
as a diehard swoosh fan , i had to turn to other brands (on, nb, adidas & brooks) to get that old feeling back. it’s great to hear that Nike is steering the ship back on the right path 👏🏿👏🏿. i’ll be sure to grab a pair. being that’s it’s nike, i may have to grab a few pairs if it’s a good shoe. nike just has a habit of giving ppl what they want, then screwing up the next iteration of a good shoe.
I’ve had em in my cart with the Nike bday discount since they released but I’ve just been waiting on your review before I pulled the trigger. Been looking for a traditional trainer that looks fire. I almost got the vomero but these might be worth the extra cheese. Cheers!
Love the colour of these shoes 👍. Never had Nike running shoes, but it would be nice to try a pair on in a running shop and use their treadmill to get an idea of how stable they are, before possibly buying them. I wouldn’t get them from an internet seller for that reason. I would get the Saucony Tempus 2’s online, because I know they’re a good fit, from experience.
Great review. Not sure if its the one for me with the price and also what you mentioned about toe room but still enjoyed the video lol. quite enjoyed Thinking of a place on the album reminded me a little of tame impala's 'the less i know the better'.
saw these in a local running store weeks ago in store and loved them! But I wanted to wait for reviews to come in before i pulled the trigger, thanks for the review!
This could be my next shoe after my Pegasus 38 goes flat. I just want a comfortable shoes to walk in and possible run a bit when I go for holidays. My Puma DN2 and Adios Pro 3 are too unstable for walking.
I have a Peg 38 with a crazy colorway by some English designer and I'd planned to retire it at 700km. It now stands at 680km, but both the foam and the air unit that gets so much hate still feel great in the forefoot. How many km do you plan to log in those? Thanks!
@@ucatani The Pegasus 38 is only used for casual walking. The Puma DN2 and Adidas Adios Pro 3 are miles better for running. The adios pro 3 is ageing like fine wine.
Finally I got to try how ZoomX feels without a plate. I loved how it felt during fitting and my first run (10km tempo run) in it was absolutely fun. I was concerned when I felt the ground but the ZoomX still provided sublime cushioning. The upper was also great. Very comfortable. Finally I have a non- carbon plated Nike shoe that can handle my faster training runs. Great shoe.
Hey Edd, great review.. i went in to try these on but then also visited an Asics store and tried Noosa Tri 16, and i liked the Noosa Tri better than Peg Plus! They are different but Noosa Tri felt more exciting! Please review Asics Noosa Tri 16 thanks!
@@EDDBUD Sorry, i am not sure if it really is anything special... because it could be that i had absolutely no expectations(infact had cynically negative expectations; tried the pair accidentally) and was pleasantly surprised! Yikes!
I really want these but with a fairly thin slab of zoomx in the forefoot with no more resilient foam, plate or anything, I’m really concerned about them compressing quickly & being dead after 100 miles
As a midfoot striker I hear you, bulking up the heel of a shoe is worthless for me. I need more in the forefoot and do not jam with an unnatural 10mm drop
8:35 always curious why many runners absolutely don’t like the zoom air units. I ran in the Pegasus 39 many times and honestly I don’t think I can feel anything while running.. I only feel when I’m standing and I “push down” on them. The Pegasus plus for sure was a MASSIVELY better shoe to run in what a joy!!
I think it depends on how much you weigh. I am a heavy runner at around 105kg, and I can definitely feel the zoom air units. The Vomero 16 would cause foot fatigue after about 16km - I've not felt that in the Vomero 17, which lacks the air units.
@@MrAsthenia oh yeah good point… same with air max too. I feel the air bubbles more when I’m doing some “heavy lifting” like carrying those 40+ water bottles packs or something heavier and I live upstairs in an apartment….. Otherwise I feel nothing haha
I bought this shoe and i have run a session in it once. I’m happy with it, but it’s not a general purpose do it all running shoe. It’s annoying that the outsole does not fully cover the midsole. It’s light and good on intervals, but still not as bouncy or as versatile as the invincible 2. Apart from the outsole issue, the shoe clearly is a peg turbo. It has ‘Pegasus turbo’ embossed in to the outsole and the inside of the tongue says ‘2018’ ‘2024’. Fit and the insole (i compared them) is almost identical to the turbo 2 (tho. IMO the turbo 1 was better). I will be using this shoe for interval sessions, not for long runs as the vomero 17 is better for that.
Everything sounds good to me except the price point. Invincible 3s all over the place for under 100 with a million colorways. As much as I love zoomx and I want this shoe, I'm waiting for the sale prices to hit. I fully expect to find these around 100 in a few months once they drop another 25 colorways and saturate the market as Nike tends to do.
I preferred the Turbo name. Plus sounds like a bigger, fatter runner. I guess that is a good winter colorway. Enough infra red to stand out but blue and black don't get as dirty as lighter colors would.
They had a pair in 2020 or 2021 that used glued up leftovers of zoomX and à socks knit upper if it we'rent sor hard to put on I would've kept it can't remember the Peg edition name something like element or so
First.....awesome t-shirt! Literally just ordered these, been running on the Pegasus trial 4's so I'll be interested in feeling/seeing the difference with a road shoe
As usual banger of a review Ed. I was looking for a daily shoe and really didnt want to go back Puma or Asics or Saucony for their daily runner offerings, i like to try different brands. Its refreshing to finally have a Nike shoe makes me want to get it after the OG Peg Turbos 😂. This is definitely in my list now.
Edd, questions: 1. Which reasonably priced options, non carbon plate, is the best training and racing option for all distances? 2. Which carbon plated shoe is the best for heal strikers?
I'm very tempted by this shoe but I can't avoid some gravelsections on my runs so I am worried about the exposed section of midsole. I'll try to wait for some long term reviews. #impulsecontroltraining.
I got mine the other day (even in the same colorway) and I really enjoyed running in this shoe. The Zoom X foam is nothing like the Alphafly and the Vaporfly, though. Feels very comfortable underfoot, but what is with Nike and 10 mm drop shoes?
lately I got really skeptical with nike, with how they engineer the forefoot. pegs 37 n 38, had that nice big air unit under the toes, amd invincible 1 n 2 also felt very responsive. but pegs 39-40 aswell as invincible 3, they all feel "dead" in the forefoot. then you have so much foam in the heel. so I dont know if I should spend more money on that garbage TBH. I hear so many people complaining about the newer line of nike, feeling more dead in the forefoot than ever.
Saw that colour wave in person and I absolutely loved it! It reminded me of the 2015 flyknit models. Maybe this one can replace my combo of Novablast (easy) + Streakfly (fast) once I'm done with them. Hopefully we'll see some discounts by then $$$
Sometimes you need the strobel board for structural integrity. Maybe the durometer is lower than the turbo or Nike learned from the turbo that people were bottoming out ( obviously not the Buddster, His Buddness, or uh, Budder, or El Budderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing)
Believe in the Run is just simply wrong. This shoe isn't really supposed to compete with those high tech carbon plated trainers, just a fun simple fast shoe waiting for a workout.
7:45 I was listening to the video without watching as I was busy with an email. When that fly buzz came up I took my headset off and waved my hand past my ears to get rid of the little buggers :)
Looks awesome Maybe a great non plated speed shoe ? I get knee injury’s in low stack speed shoes so I normally have to use super shoes for speed work But I’d like to use more non plated shoes in my rotation
Regarding the comment about comparing the dollar and pound prices, you always pay a premium in your country compared to the US (some people are fooled into thinking the difference is down to the different VAT/taxes, NHS, whatever, but anyone with decent math can tell that's a small part of the difference, you're just being taken advantage off, plain and simple!). This has been the case for more than 20 years, across many products, I remember that from cameras back in the day before everybody started using their mobiles. So not only the UK does exactly what the US tells it to do when it comes to wars, etc, you also pay a premium for their products, it's a great deal I tell you!
Excuse my rant btw, let's leave politics aside! Thanks for the review, appreciated! Question, does it bottom out on the forefoot? Thinking of how soft Zoom X is and how even the invincible was almost bottoming out, I guess this does?
@@EDDBUD I see. I've also heard people trying to explain this with "it's a smaller market", etc, but truth is companies charge whatever they can get away with. They think the English will pay more for the same thing, so they suggest a higher price. Something similar is happening with On Running. They charge their own people (the Swiss) a hefty premium, over say the Germans next door for the same model. Just go to their Swiss website and then the German, or even Greek for that matter. Take the Cloudsurfer Next, it's 200CHF for Swiss customers and 160EUR (about 150CHF) for the rest of Europe. So a 33% premium for the Swiss (and the Swiss VAT is the lowest at 8%). I guess On thinks "those Swiss have more money so they should pay more". Meanwhile other products like electronics are the same price here (in Switzerland) as everywhere else. I refuse to buy any of their shoes even if I'm occasionally tempted (they are designed a couple of kms from where I live).
These are $180 here in the U.S. I suppose my question is “are they $180 good?” When compared to other shoes in that price range, like the Endorphin Speed, Deviate Nitro 2 or 3, Adidas Boston 12, or even at $180 here, the New Balance SC Trainer V3? I mean, it’s $20 away from the Superblast 2. I just don’t see the value, especially with the Adidas SL2 at $130 retail.
Wow - a nice shoe that I may have to take a look at since my days of invincible run 2. Where do these fit in between owning the SB2 and Nimbus 26 - can they fit into the rotation? Still racing in the ASICS Metaspeed sky and just did a mile and 5k pb in them, but as you mentioned, they show some wear and need to "baby" them. Wish I was 18 again 😂!
Looks amazing! But in a shoe rotation with invincible for the long easy, vomero 17 for the shorter and a speed shoe for intervals day where does this one fit in? Doesn’t seem a full on speed shoe for the tempo days? Some of the conclusion even sounds like I could swap out the invincible ? Weren’t as big a fan of the 3 as of the invincible 2
I have various mixing devices. Flex 10 and a budget project preamp. Pioneer plx1000 and a technics 1210 I rebuilt. I had 2 x 1200 but had to sell them some years back. Regret it on a daily basis.
My Brooks Hyperion Tempo's glue has expired while my Boston 9 is close to retiring. I'm looking for a speedier shoe low to the ground feel same as the above, would this be a good replacement? I have max stack shoes for other days but I really love the lower stack feel.
@@EDDBUD Thanks, I'll probably look at other shoes. I borrowed a Takumi sen 10 and liked it but not the same feel I'm looking for. I do have a deviate nitro 2 but would like to alternate to a low stack, firm but flexible on the forefoot.
@@EDDBUD If I can't find these old school like shoes, I might get these for the looks. Does this fit like the invincible 3? I'm a us9.5 in those but a us10 on some.
I'm happy to know I'm not alone in praise of this shoe. 🙏🏻
It’s a great shoe. No idea what people wanted from it. Some suggested the Pegasus 41 was boring. So here’s the zoomx update!
@@EDDBUD Preach my friend, preach. 🙏🏻
Ok thanks
@@EDDBUD I think I'm biased by previous experiences with the Pegasus. I don't doubt that it's a good shoe, I just must be a victim of my prejudices. 😂
@@EDDBUD The Pegasus 41 IS boring. It's meant to be boring. And that's what I want from it, normal daily shoe
Good to hear you like them. Took mine out for a debut outing tonight and promising for sure. Just a bit more “beefed up” than previous versions I feel but, as you say, those ones are long gone.
Yea good to embrace it as a brand new model really 👍🏼
I wouldn't be running 'round the same neighborhood for hours many times in a week if it weren't fun. Some reviews simply bury the fun factor in all the new-fangled tech of a shoe. Where's the joy in that? So, you nailed it! Ordered the Lemon Twist colorway online as a treat to myself.
Not sure we have that one here. Standard black and white stuff aside of this one
Thank god for you reviews Ed, love to hear genuine thoughts and opinions, when every other reviewer is being careful of what they say bc they want to get the next shoe for free! Can’t wait to pick these up 👍
Not much point to a review if there’s too much on the fence stuff. Many shoes are pretty refined by the time of release as such there’s never any true stinkers. A few get through the net though
My Peg Turbo's nostalgia in my running book is opened again with this one. 😊
Thanks for the review edd, I held these in hand at the store, they did feel good. But I thought to myself, let Edd announce it's a good shoe.
Cheers 🍻
Thanks for tuning in!
I really enjoy the Vomero 17 so I'm pretty sure, especially given your review, that I'll get along well with this shoe. I'll pick it up when it gets discounted. Great review Edd.
The review i was waiting for👏🏽👏🏽. Im getting my pegasus+ this week. Lime-green/blue color sway. I cant wait. Just in time for my 5k training.
Flyknit upper, zoom X and a 10mm drop is nothing short of the formula for a great shoe!
Yeah it all comes together on this one
Well, obviously there are many who like the 10mm drop... but there are quite a few of us who wish it was more like 7 mm drop (but then we can buy the streakfly! Duh!)!
@@bluesque9687 yea but the streakfly was a disappointment! I love a 7mm drop as well actually prefer them but let hope the streakfly 2 delivers!
@@bluesque9687 yeah let’s hope the streakfly 2 delivers! I was huge fan of the tempo next percent because it had the same formula but hopefully it isn’t completely revamped
@@MatterofBased Yea, i am looking forward to streakfly 2 too... the early pics online tell us it is gonna have some sort of a plate... I think the foam is the hero element in these shoes, and I haven't tried Metaspeed Paris or SB2 yet, but I have always found zoomx is the best of them all! Nike has got it all and can wow us any moment, but they dont! Fingers crossed for SF2
Haven't brought a nike shoe since an old indestructible Pegasus I still occasionally wear to take the kids out on their bikes. But these look tempting. Especially in this colour way 😍
How weird that Turbo is written on the bottom. Could it be that the soles were manufactured before the marketing team insisted on renaming it?
Who knows. It does make a cool weird note though. Maybe they decided to change the name away from the turbo after the next nature was a bit of a dud?
Or I guess it's more of an easter egg.
@@EDDBUDthink it is the move to having standard, plus and premium versions of the marquee shoe families and this is the first one.
@@letitbleep2683You are all wrong. It's a pegasus turbo, but it transitioned and now identifies as a pegasus+.
Fellow Fallout fan!! I love the T-shirt great review 🙌
I think you're spot on my friend! I couldn't agree more on your breakdown. I picked up a pair and have done a few runs already. I was in the Invincible 3 previously but it was too heavy for me to pick up my pace. Not only does this shoe provide similar cushion/comfort, but it's much more stable than the Invincible 3. Already having a lot of fun in this ride as it's very responsive and light. Last note: I ordered and fit perfectly in my true size as well.
Really nice shoe and fun!
What a beautiful shoe! Great review
Thanks so much!
I've been staying away from plated shoes in my daily trainers and saving plates for race day. I am excited to try these with the Invincible 3 for a nice little ZoomX rotation
Could be spot on for you! 👍🏼
Love the colourway of these! Also love the advert for Yeovil Gear Services 😉
I go to them for all my gears. 🤣👍🏼
i would like to see a long term to the durability
Hello Edd, I've been waiting for your review on this one. Thanks! 👍
Hope you like it!
Nice one Edd. They look like a good versatile shoe. But I'm just finishing off the takumi Sen 9 (450 km) and have bought the Vomero 17 & Mach 6 for my next daily/long/tempo pairing.... As well as the Adios 7 still plenty of miles left ... So maybe one for the future mate. Btw saw the War on Drugs live recent tour in Liverpool, old school university gig 2k venue superb sound.... All the tracks sounded tremendous and great atmosphere, sweat from the roof!!!! Take it easy..😎🙌🏾👍🏾
Superb band. Been a fan since the early days.
It’s simply a “Turbo” hidden under a plus badge. Marketing at its “finest”. 😝 great content as always mate.
Very strange design choice with the “plus”. It’s absolutely the turbo update
Keep up the good job Ed. Great review as always
Thanks, will do!
A solid offering, based on your review. Nike fans have a viable option with that one.
Great work by War on Drugs. When I hear Adam Granofsky’s voice, can’t stop thinking of Don Henley. About Pegasus plus, I think is a nay for me. Cheers from Old Saigon, Vietnam.
It’s a lovely album. Depth to the sound! No crystal clear precise playing. Alive!
Good stuff as usual Edd and it cheers the heart of a lifelong Nike fanboy to see them make their first decent non-plated trainer for about 3 years. However with an SL2 at £110 I will not be buying this bowling shoe. I hear there’s been some management changes in Nike’s running division so hopefully a sign of things to come.
Loved the Peg Turbo at the the time, but tried one recently and was disappointed. Glad this steps forwards, I can see me grabbing a pair of these.
A different shoe this time out
Hey Edd! I had posted a comment early last year about seeing a picture online of the peg turbo making a comeback (it seemed like a rumour at the time), and you had replied that you were going to check that out! And since then i have waited for the shoe and your review of it equally eagerly! Wow time flies!
Now that you think it is good, i am buying it this weekend! No further questions! :)
I dont think i can wait for Ben Parkes or Tim Grose or the runtesters to review it... i was always baised towards this one! Love the Peg Turbo OG!
Though you have pointed out that it is not the same zoomx as the one in the vaporflys or alphaflys or even in the peg turbos OG... i would still take it over any other foam! I am ditching Superblast 2 to buy this (thats the other option, and i know it could be a better shoe and you would suggest to opt for Superblast 2)!
Love the colours 🎉
It’s a great looking shoe
Seems excellent. Like you said, surprising that it took them so long to do this.
I hope they do a weatherised version of this shoe again 🤞
Thanks for the review, much better than I expected.
Yes they really have hit the spot for me
@@EDDBUD Lol, as an acolyte of Turbo 1 and 2, that’s great news.
I think a lot of people equate modern levels of stack height to better cushioning and protection, yet comparatively low stack Pegasus Turbo 1 and 2 were not only fun, but were kinder to my knees than any other shoe.
@@CMDV8N3 yeah it’s gone stack max recently
Super interesting shoe. I just got a pair of Invincible 3, so I'm not gonna buy them, but this seems like a great full Zoom X shoe that sits between Invincible 3 and Vaporfly 3
Yeah an in between the invincible and streakfly.
as a diehard swoosh fan , i had to turn to other brands (on, nb, adidas & brooks) to get that old feeling back. it’s great to hear that Nike is steering the ship back on the right path 👏🏿👏🏿. i’ll be sure to grab a pair. being that’s it’s nike, i may have to grab a few pairs if it’s a good shoe. nike just has a habit of giving ppl what they want, then screwing up the next iteration of a good shoe.
I’ve had em in my cart with the Nike bday discount since they released but I’ve just been waiting on your review before I pulled the trigger. Been looking for a traditional trainer that looks fire. I almost got the vomero but these might be worth the extra cheese. Cheers!
Hope you enjoy it!
Love the colour of these shoes 👍. Never had Nike running shoes, but it would be nice to try a pair on in a running shop and use their treadmill to get an idea of how stable they are, before possibly buying them. I wouldn’t get them from an internet seller for that reason. I would get the Saucony Tempus 2’s online, because I know they’re a good fit, from experience.
Very encouraging review! Edd, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great review. Not sure if its the one for me with the price and also what you mentioned about toe room but still enjoyed the video lol. quite enjoyed Thinking of a place on the album reminded me a little of tame impala's 'the less i know the better'.
Just pulled the trigger on one after staring at it for a while, thanks Edd
@@michaelcaricoo hope the review helped out! 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD It was the push I needed, good luck with the heat
Excellent review edd and very entertaining as usual. 🎉🎉🤘🤘
Thank you kindly!
saw these in a local running store weeks ago in store and loved them! But I wanted to wait for reviews to come in before i pulled the trigger, thanks for the review!
Hope you enjoy!
Excellent review Edd MORE MORE🎉🎉🎉
This could be my next shoe after my Pegasus 38 goes flat. I just want a comfortable shoes to walk in and possible run a bit when I go for holidays. My Puma DN2 and Adios Pro 3 are too unstable for walking.
I have a Peg 38 with a crazy colorway by some English designer and I'd planned to retire it at 700km. It now stands at 680km, but both the foam and the air unit that gets so much hate still feel great in the forefoot. How many km do you plan to log in those? Thanks!
@@ucatani The Pegasus 38 is only used for casual walking. The Puma DN2 and Adidas Adios Pro 3 are miles better for running. The adios pro 3 is ageing like fine wine.
Finally I got to try how ZoomX feels without a plate. I loved how it felt during fitting and my first run (10km tempo run) in it was absolutely fun. I was concerned when I felt the ground but the ZoomX still provided sublime cushioning. The upper was also great. Very comfortable. Finally I have a non- carbon plated Nike shoe that can handle my faster training runs. Great shoe.
It’s the best Nike daily type shoe in a long time
Here for the musical interlude this time haha, fantastic band and album. The whole family loves the war on drugs.
Hope nike is slowly tuning the ship around and will start spitting some good running shoes - just about the freakin time !!!!
Yeah this is a good one at last
Great review! 😄🙏 Thanks mate!
My pleasure!
@eddbud I feel like this is very comparable to the novablast. Responsive. Pretty light for a daily trainer. But not quite fast enough for speed work.
Very different in ride. More versatile than the blaster and less bulky upper
Definitely fast enough for speed work
Hey Edd, great review.. i went in to try these on but then also visited an Asics store and tried Noosa Tri 16, and i liked the Noosa Tri better than Peg Plus! They are different but Noosa Tri felt more exciting!
Please review Asics Noosa Tri 16 thanks!
Will keep it in mind
@@EDDBUD Sorry, i am not sure if it really is anything special... because it could be that i had absolutely no expectations(infact had cynically negative expectations; tried the pair accidentally) and was pleasantly surprised! Yikes!
@@bluesque9687 sometimes a shoe just fits the bill! 👍🏼
I really want these but with a fairly thin slab of zoomx in the forefoot with no more resilient foam, plate or anything, I’m really concerned about them compressing quickly & being dead after 100 miles
It’s a good 36mm in the heel on the sample. It’s more than enough for most folks
As a midfoot striker I hear you, bulking up the heel of a shoe is worthless for me. I need more in the forefoot and do not jam with an unnatural 10mm drop
Sounds like it slots right in with this year's uptempo Daily Trainers like the Mach 6, SL2 or Rebel 4. Definitely one to check out then.😊
Right on
Just did an easy two miles and am impressed with the peg plus, only real issue is the forefoot sounds like it is slappy when contacting the ground.
8:35 always curious why many runners absolutely don’t like the zoom air units. I ran in the Pegasus 39 many times and honestly I don’t think I can feel anything while running.. I only feel when I’m standing and I “push down” on them. The Pegasus plus for sure was a MASSIVELY better shoe to run in what a joy!!
I think it depends on how much you weigh. I am a heavy runner at around 105kg, and I can definitely feel the zoom air units. The Vomero 16 would cause foot fatigue after about 16km - I've not felt that in the Vomero 17, which lacks the air units.
@@MrAsthenia oh yeah good point… same with air max too. I feel the air bubbles more when I’m doing some “heavy lifting” like carrying those 40+ water bottles packs or something heavier and I live upstairs in an apartment….. Otherwise I feel nothing haha
I bought this shoe and i have run a session in it once. I’m happy with it, but it’s not a general purpose do it all running shoe. It’s annoying that the outsole does not fully cover the midsole.
It’s light and good on intervals, but still not as bouncy or as versatile as the invincible 2.
Apart from the outsole issue, the shoe clearly is a peg turbo. It has ‘Pegasus turbo’ embossed in to the outsole and the inside of the tongue says ‘2018’ ‘2024’. Fit and the insole (i compared them) is almost identical to the turbo 2 (tho. IMO the turbo 1 was better).
I will be using this shoe for interval sessions, not for long runs as the vomero 17 is better for that.
Everything sounds good to me except the price point. Invincible 3s all over the place for under 100 with a million colorways. As much as I love zoomx and I want this shoe, I'm waiting for the sale prices to hit. I fully expect to find these around 100 in a few months once they drop another 25 colorways and saturate the market as Nike tends to do.
The invincible is rarely discounted here. At 140 with the discount it’s a banger.
I preferred the Turbo name. Plus sounds like a bigger, fatter runner. I guess that is a good winter colorway. Enough infra red to stand out but blue and black don't get as dirty as lighter colors would.
Yeah that’s why I chose this colour
Great video as always. How would you say this compares to the streakfly? Same sort of boxes ticked it seems on face value
Bit more stack. Better fitting upper and more durable
Love that colour combo
They had a pair in 2020 or 2021 that used glued up leftovers of zoomX and à socks knit upper if it we'rent sor hard to put on I would've kept it can't remember the Peg edition name something like element or so
That was the Pegasus turbo next nature. 2022 reviewed on the channel. It was terrible.
@EDDBUD yes exactly- the glued sole sucked bad but the upper material was very nice and soft
Looks like a pebax-eva blend used in the midsole
No. It’s full zoomx
Really love the looks
This might be weird to say, but I like the sound of these shoes on the ground :)
Yes they make a nice foamy thud
Dankeschön 🙏🏼 Well, the Turbo Next Nature was a no go and no work shoe for me. The toebox was so narrow 😅 I am curious about this one.
I like the colour of them looks very nice
Superb version. Really stand out but not.
Looks like a winner.
First.....awesome t-shirt!
Literally just ordered these, been running on the Pegasus trial 4's so I'll be interested in feeling/seeing the difference with a road shoe
My son loves that shirt too. Though he doesn’t know what the various media are 🤣👍🏼
Sounds promising! 🫡
As usual banger of a review Ed. I was looking for a daily shoe and really didnt want to go back Puma or Asics or Saucony for their daily runner offerings, i like to try different brands. Its refreshing to finally have a Nike shoe makes me want to get it after the OG Peg Turbos 😂. This is definitely in my list now.
It’s really fun. Quite versatile.
Edd, questions: 1. Which reasonably priced options, non carbon plate, is the best training and racing option for all distances? 2. Which carbon plated shoe is the best for heal strikers?
Superblast 2. I kid. It’s too costly to be a lower priced shoe. This is good, or the sl2. Check out the magnify nitro 2 also
Review the Diadora Gara Carbon!
I'm very tempted by this shoe but I can't avoid some gravelsections on my runs so I am worried about the exposed section of midsole. I'll try to wait for some long term reviews. #impulsecontroltraining.
The fly in the ointment was a jumpscare haha
The showman always has a trick up his sleeve
I got mine the other day (even in the same colorway) and I really enjoyed running in this shoe. The Zoom X foam is nothing like the Alphafly and the Vaporfly, though. Feels very comfortable underfoot, but what is with Nike and 10 mm drop shoes?
Feels good to me and the insole doesn’t amplify the midsole feel
lately I got really skeptical with nike, with how they engineer the forefoot. pegs 37 n 38, had that nice big air unit under the toes, amd invincible 1 n 2 also felt very responsive.
but pegs 39-40 aswell as invincible 3, they all feel "dead" in the forefoot. then you have so much foam in the heel. so I dont know if I should spend more money on that garbage TBH. I hear so many people complaining about the newer line of nike, feeling more dead in the forefoot than ever.
Doesn’t feel like that at all on foot
Saw that colour wave in person and I absolutely loved it! It reminded me of the 2015 flyknit models.
Maybe this one can replace my combo of Novablast (easy) + Streakfly (fast) once I'm done with them. Hopefully we'll see some discounts by then $$$
It’s a lovely looking shoe for sure. They nailed it on the Pegasus plus
We all know it's a turbo! Good work as usual. Almost tempted. Almost...
Sometimes you need the strobel board for structural integrity. Maybe the durometer is lower than the turbo or Nike learned from the turbo that people were bottoming out ( obviously not the Buddster, His Buddness, or uh, Budder, or El Budderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing)
The invincible v1 had a partial board around the edge and that was squash city
Believe in the Run is just simply wrong. This shoe isn't really supposed to compete with those high tech carbon plated trainers, just a fun simple fast shoe waiting for a workout.
Bang on
You’re correct the fact it’s 180 is the crime I feel
Edd - no no no we don't want any rain! Let's wait until October at least.
Maybe just a bit? 🤣👍🏼
@@EDDBUD only overnight then 🤣
@@ianstyring9602 No joke it rained on my run this morning. Boiling hot and rain. Nuts weather right now
Bowling shoe ...I like that lol.
I tried these recently in store and found them more comfort than peg 41 put them on my next shoe list
Still the Speed for me Ed
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7:45 I was listening to the video without watching as I was busy with an email. When that fly buzz came up I took my headset off and waved my hand past my ears to get rid of the little buggers :)
@@waleedsulaiman651 🤣
@@EDDBUD I was like WTF 🤣🤣🤣
Auto turbo boost with the outsole 🏃♂️💨💨💨
I think nike finally answered our prayers!!
It’s the best Nike daily right now
Looks awesome
Maybe a great non plated speed shoe ?
I get knee injury’s in low stack speed shoes so I normally have to use super shoes for speed work
But I’d like to use more non plated shoes in my rotation
A traditional feel here but with the top tier foam
Not for me, but I must admit that this is a cracking looking shoe 👍
It’s a picture!
Regarding the comment about comparing the dollar and pound prices, you always pay a premium in your country compared to the US (some people are fooled into thinking the difference is down to the different VAT/taxes, NHS, whatever, but anyone with decent math can tell that's a small part of the difference, you're just being taken advantage off, plain and simple!). This has been the case for more than 20 years, across many products, I remember that from cameras back in the day before everybody started using their mobiles. So not only the UK does exactly what the US tells it to do when it comes to wars, etc, you also pay a premium for their products, it's a great deal I tell you!
Excuse my rant btw, let's leave politics aside! Thanks for the review, appreciated! Question, does it bottom out on the forefoot? Thinking of how soft Zoom X is and how even the invincible was almost bottoming out, I guess this does?
Guitars and amp. Massive premium too
@@EDDBUD I see. I've also heard people trying to explain this with "it's a smaller market", etc, but truth is companies charge whatever they can get away with. They think the English will pay more for the same thing, so they suggest a higher price. Something similar is happening with On Running. They charge their own people (the Swiss) a hefty premium, over say the Germans next door for the same model. Just go to their Swiss website and then the German, or even Greek for that matter. Take the Cloudsurfer Next, it's 200CHF for Swiss customers and 160EUR (about 150CHF) for the rest of Europe. So a 33% premium for the Swiss (and the Swiss VAT is the lowest at 8%). I guess On thinks "those Swiss have more money so they should pay more". Meanwhile other products like electronics are the same price here (in Switzerland) as everywhere else. I refuse to buy any of their shoes even if I'm occasionally tempted (they are designed a couple of kms from where I live).
These are $180 here in the U.S. I suppose my question is “are they $180 good?” When compared to other shoes in that price range, like the Endorphin Speed, Deviate Nitro 2 or 3, Adidas Boston 12, or even at $180 here, the New Balance SC Trainer V3? I mean, it’s $20 away from the Superblast 2. I just don’t see the value, especially with the Adidas SL2 at $130 retail.
Quite a different shoe to the adidas. More forgiving in the forefoot and overall feels like a higher quality production. Zoomx untamed for once
Thanks!
No problem!
Sounds similar to the Novablast? A slightly uptempo comfortable shoe that can do 10-25kms with a slightly quicker than steady pace?
Doesn’t feel as rigid or controlling as the novablast. Bit more squashy and fun
@@EDDBUD might pick them up as we move towards spring down here in Tasmania.
It looks really nice
It does!
Wow - a nice shoe that I may have to take a look at since my days of invincible run 2. Where do these fit in between owning the SB2 and Nimbus 26 - can they fit into the rotation? Still racing in the ASICS Metaspeed sky and just did a mile and 5k pb in them, but as you mentioned, they show some wear and need to "baby" them. Wish I was 18 again 😂!
Looks amazing! But in a shoe rotation with invincible for the long easy, vomero 17 for the shorter and a speed shoe for intervals day where does this one fit in? Doesn’t seem a full on speed shoe for the tempo days? Some of the conclusion even sounds like I could swap out the invincible ? Weren’t as big a fan of the 3 as of the invincible 2
It’s a lower stack invincible. But can handle faster paces too
Seems like a nice shoe. Hope there will be a wide version. What kind of Turnatble and phono stage do you own?
I have various mixing devices. Flex 10 and a budget project preamp. Pioneer plx1000 and a technics 1210 I rebuilt. I had 2 x 1200 but had to sell them some years back. Regret it on a daily basis.
Puma has smokin looks like springs sponge like
Packing up a bouncy castle 🏰
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What is your choice between Superblast 2 and Pegasus Turbo? Thank you!
Very different shoes. More a long run max stack shoe in the Superblast 2. The Pegasus a little more versatile.
My Brooks Hyperion Tempo's glue has expired while my Boston 9 is close to retiring. I'm looking for a speedier shoe low to the ground feel same as the above, would this be a good replacement? I have max stack shoes for other days but I really love the lower stack feel.
Could do the trick. Though it’s more a Jack of many trades than a master of specifically higher paces runs
@@EDDBUD Thanks, I'll probably look at other shoes. I borrowed a Takumi sen 10 and liked it but not the same feel I'm looking for. I do have a deviate nitro 2 but would like to alternate to a low stack, firm but flexible on the forefoot.
@@Deathcultify Yeah the sen isn’t that flexible.
@@EDDBUD If I can't find these old school like shoes, I might get these for the looks. Does this fit like the invincible 3? I'm a us9.5 in those but a us10 on some.
Would you recommend for a 10k?.... I liked doing my 10ks in the streakfly, but doesnt like getting an update soon....
Don’t see why not
How might you compare these to something like a Mach 6 or Rebel 4?
Not tried the Mach 6. The rebel 4 didn’t fit too well. Better upper here and outsole. The zoomx is a bit more responsive.
Would you run a marathon in this or the vapor fly?
It’s not a race shoe.