Why Raw Video is What You Need
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The "Upgrade/Fuck Go Back" meme is real with photography.
my old mac air cant even handle raw stills :D
Lol
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I fee ya, man. I’m in the same boat. Was looking to get a new MacBook, but I might hold off on the new ARM chip MacBooks until next year. They might be buggy, imo. Also, it’s not known whether they’ll be able to use Bootcamp, which I...try to use on my Air. I can get things done! If I move my cursor veeeery slowly. Lol
So I think I’ll get a 2015/16 used MacBook.
@@Chuck8541 mines a 2011 air Lol still chugging
Hilarious 😆
Why Raw Video will create enough heat on your laptop to warm your house through the winter.
It's actually easier for the computer to process than regular video is.
As someone who works in production, I've seen the ups and downs of shooting RAW 4k/ 6k footage. On the one hand, it's clean and perfect for post editing. But on the other, you have to deal with storage and a strenuous work flow. Both cost you time and money. I personally think, if it's shot right, then you don't need this black hole of data; you can easily work with compressed footage and make it look just as good. Since these are mirrorless cameras, most of the time, you're shooting something that will end up on RUclips and watched on a mobile phone. Most 'film makers' don't know enough about real colour grading and they certainly don't shoot anything that requires a lot of post editing. 8-bit, 4k is still ideal.
I use RAW in my C200 all the time. Its brilliant! When the camera came out, there was allot of negativity towards it but with RAW becoming more and more common, I can't help but feel that the C200 deserves a bit of attention again. I love mine, its brilliant!
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I used the C200 for a good while and whilst it can be a hefty piece of kit, the footage is absolutely beautiful and really enjoyable to create with
I dig the samurai hair.
Finally you mentioned about Lumix S1H. The most under appreciated camera.
May be yes.
Its a powerhouse for sure 👍
kai. thanksyou for not using an alternate angle where you are looking away from camera. christ i hate that! thanks!
RAW!
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?
ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING
Makes sense. NR is a bioch . Major crashes. Edit all cuts, audio,then titles/generators,colorgrade,then noise reduction but drag to the top,render. Make sure to set to optimized media before render for export. To add all folders in one spot on import. NOTE TO SELF. GREAT VID !THANK YOU FOR SHARING
You could always go with Davinci Resolve for your colour grading. Its even completely free. Side bonus: It kicks Premiere's butt in rendering as well.
if you think free Davinci kicks premiers butt in rendering, try premium version man! :))) Premium renders using GPU, so it will be like 4x faster even compared to Xenon CPU that I have.
And the classic bmpcc still looks the best cinematic
I mean it’s a dedicated cinema camera from a dedicated cinema camera company so that makes sense.
For most people it will be some time until they consider using RAW. For pics its easy to set RAW+JPEG, use the JPEGs and go back to a RAW if you really need to. Or, edit the RAWs and have JPEGs for convenience. But the RAW file sizes for video are difficult to process, yet. Don't see anyone recording their new born with it anytime soon.
4:03 - 5:00 is the best freaking example of Raw vs Log that I have ever heard in my life. AWESOME!!!
6:15 J.J. Abrahams has entered the chat
Loving the samurai top knot 👍
yes people will make use of raw more than 8k
Sigma FP: 4K UHD CDNG raw on a budget.
Kai getting in there before the Sony embargo hits at 3pm and RUclips becomes a wash with the same content.
Please try the RAW video of the Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern, it will definitely be a funny video. The EOS M also only costs $100 😂 (by the way it is internal RAW video with up to 48fps)
You’re accent is fucking gold!
I thought this is another Sony a7s iii leak.
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Same
soon to be.
@@edmundtaiping it will not be a leak after announcement tho.
Think I've made up my mind to go R6 later this year. I can probably do without the RAW workflow. Great video as always Kai!
As long as you get the white balance right 10 bit log (which the R6 has) can get you fairly similar results to raw. There’s always hope for magic lantern to do their thing.
No raw, no histogram while recording, constant overheating, no touch AF when using the Atomos, and no 4k crop option. I’ve given up on the R6 for a proper video camera. Great backup or if the client wants Canon.
Where is your "I SHOOT RAW" shirt? 😂😂😂
HAHAHAH nice one!
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Genius, that would have been a epic pun in this video if he had used that shirt :-D
Jared Polin needs to look here.
I'm loving my S1H!
Kai, have you or would you consider testing out the Sigma fp? RAW out to an SSD directly, and it now supports ProRes RAW out to your Atomos recorder. Would be interesting to see how it compares to the Panasonic S1H.
Great Video, Me personally I use for a while dng/raw formats is straight forward with adobe soft just open as camera raw sequence and then I do all texture,clarity and denoiser compress highlights and balance shadows is really cool and easy. for me.
Give this man an award for such a great explanation!
Will you grow a beard? It’s starting to look pretty damn cool. If so, I can't wait to see the next video of you with a thick mustache.
What about Sigma FP ?
I just love the way you say CAMERA...great video by the way as always!
RAW RAW RAW baby!!
Been shooting lossless raw 12bit for 3 years now. Only 1080p but hella huge files.
Lovely as there is zero compression loss. But it's lossless compressed.
Good quality footage beats high resolution footage any day. Id take raw 1080p from a cine camera over 8K from a cellphone any day.
@@ryanfeller5765 sadly you need a proper lot scene to really make use of the raw camera. A phone would do better in a challenging environment with all the automatic and adaptive features.
And resolution shows up on bigger screens
You really don't. An Arri Alexa 35 has 17 stops of actual dynamic range. A phone camera might have 8-10 or something. Plus this is bigger, no HDR. You have so much more room to post process the Arri footage to way overpower the phone. Phones aren't black magic voodoo boxes, they're still limited by their sensor no matter how much they try to fake it.
well yes I have the drone footage too but I'm not really using the canon much now as have the iPhone 13 pro max also which I use as video screen record during drone footage
We live in sad times when Q*bert doesn't even swear anymore when he falls off the grid.
Fully agree, I'm so fed up of this megapixel race - 8k seems the thing now, as I'm still waiting for a real decent FHD camera (donwnsampled, no line skipping, beefy 10 bit codec)...
Is FHD sufficient? I've had some clients turn me down just because I didn't have a 4k camera.
@@professionalpotato4764 For real pro work, you might need 4k, yes. But for youtube a REAL good FHD should do the trick easily. C100 mkII does NOT shoot 4k, for example - check some footage here and judge yourself... the problem is more that even higher end DSLRs or mirrorless achieve FHD vial line skipping as of now - to avoid that, you have to invest in a Cinema camera...
@@tom_k_d I see... One day, when my skills get better and I have better clients, I'll invest in one.
@@professionalpotato4764 It seems Sony will finally offer downsampled FHD with the new 7s to come, and hopefully the R5 / R6 FHD quality is better, too - didn't see any footage yet. Problem with 4k or even 8k is you need huge storage capacity, and a lot of computing power to handle it - decent FHD out of the camera is much easier to digest in post...
The Arri Alexa isn't 4k. And yet it's a better camera than most. Really, only Arri's better cameras compete with it. RED chases spec numbers more (and fibs a bit) and Arri is just good and works, their numbers are lenient.
A7S3 REVIEW, I KNOW U HAVE IT, COS IT DOES 16 BIT RAW OVER HDMI WHAT ARE YOU HINTING AT KAIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Nothing to do with this but is the Nikon z50 good
great info thank you!
A good video. You made the point clear. Thumbs up from Kingsport, Tn!
what we really need is "pied piper" to come up with a better algorythm for the compression of raw video.
I'm disappointed of A7S3 since it does not do 8k or internal raw. I will pass it. I was so waiting for it
Jajaja then Get the R5! We are more than happy with a excelent 4K camera!
4K is approaching the limit of human vision. There have been a handful of 4K phones but most are 1440p. Most monitors are 4K except once you get past 27” where that pixel density starts to lower. And since TVs are so far away you can even get away with 1080p on
S1H Just need a sony mount or canon mount and it'll be the best camera in the world lol
It’s not weather sealed
Get the Sigma MC-21 ;)
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They just need to put DPAF in all of their next gen camera - and replace the top management at their imaging division
@@JetBen555 The S1H does basically everything right - but autofocus haha
Its not whether a camera can shoot RAW or not these days, there are many that can at any price point. Its hard drives that keep me out of RAW. I love HLG! Get they dynamic range benefits with none of the post fuss. And its higher bit depth still give you room to move things around.
3:37 @Kai W: A note for you for using images from Wikipedia.
The image description page (commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pentax_K-01_5585.jpg) says that the author wants to be attributed as "Joergens.mi/Wikipedia". That is OK and you have done it.
However, section two says that you have to provide a "weblink to the original image" and section three requires you to add the licences URL. Unless you get an extra permission by the original author you have to follow these requirements. As section 7.a) of the legalcode of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 licence clearly states: If you don't follow the licence's guidelines your rights granted by the licence (eg. to share, modify and use this image) are terminated. Adding the required info to the info section usually is not enough since the video can be shared without the info section below the video.
I tell you this is because I have been working on Wikipedia for over 10 years now and I also uploaded quite a few images licenced under Creative Commons licences. So often I see people just don't give a flying dildo about your copyright. If an image can be used _free of charge_ does not imply that the use is free from requirements.
Just to be clear about the licence conditions: Unless you have that sweet extra permission by the author, you did not follow the licence. The licence therefore does not apply to your usage which means you violated this users copyright and that he can sue you for using his image without his permission.
12K raw on new Blackmagic Ursa mini pro?
12k RAW ?!? HDDs don't grow on trees you know!
@@joejoe4games it also shoots 8K raw, 6K raw and 4K raw all full sensor area because of the new sensor design.
@@AlexanderKalish literally a mic drop
@@EasttSideCustomZ and a jaw drop:D I was watching the stream and the guy was so calm and seemingly unexcited while he was dropping bombs regarding the characteristics of the camera while my jaw was dropping lower and lower, lol. He was like 'yeah, it shoots 12K RAW, oh, and by the way, it has a new sensor desingn so it can shoot 12K, 8K, 6K and 4K RAW all without any crop, yeah, no big deal, it's just that no other camera has that, moving on, folks':DDD
I believe you're going to upload a preview pretty soon of some camera, like this day
hi kai.i have a canon 760d at moment.i shoot lot drone footage on my mini 2 and mavic air 2.i first saw u tryin mavic air by beloved Boris.sold him now.great drone too.do you think mirrorless cameras better for video footage could sell my 760d perhaps.steve
Kai... Ive been following and enjoying great value from your content for years... and was just wondering if you're still in Hong Kong?
yooooo Twickenham PogChamp
What would you say to a director who does not want to use raw because he thinks he can get the look he wants straight out of the camera?
OMG. Q*bert FTW.
A7S3 TIMEEEEEEEEEE
I don't do raw. I like mine well-done!
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Where is my 16k raw?
Another video 👏
You look cute with that cap and I love you
You know if any of the Fuji cameras support raw video? Xt3 or xt4
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No
They would melt. XT4 already overheats in 10 bit.
Isn't raw actually easier for the camera to handle? It's basically raw sensor readout without all the postprocessing.
2:53 Do "BAYER" with me hahahahahahahah
Do you think RAW-only recording would allow those cameras that overheat to record for longer, as they wouldn't have to do processing and especially pixel scaling ?
Good job
my 16 inch macbook pro with the i9 32 ram and 5600m cant handle 8k raw :D cant imagine trying to color grade it
How hot does your keyboard get with that i9, mine with the i7 is very loud and hot
cinIALVEspO w really depends on what you are doing. When I’m editing video I push the fans to the Max right away. The keyboard gets hot but not crazy hot.
My laptop finds it hard to handle the 1080p 25p from the a7 and I have to play the footage back outside of the editing software to see where to cut (for some reason it plays smoothly outside of premiere hmmmmmm). That means until I get £500 I'm not gonna get anything better and I am definitely getting a pc instead of a laptop!
If you have a Mac, try FCPX as it's far more hardware efficient. If Windows, maybe try Da Vinci Resolve. That's what I prefer on my stronger desktop. On my Macbook I prefer FCPX. Also, try making lower quality proxy files to edit from, it'll give your CPU a break.
@@rocknrory I don't just an old Lenovo yoga
Not practical for most profession video work. Higher end projects are more likely to use log over raw. The space needed for the data and the additional time needed for the work flow. As a DP most of my work isn't even log. 709 baked in because of the time needed for log is too much. Most of the broadcast spots I've done where baked in 709 follow by log. Raw has a place it's simply prohibitive unless you have a reason. There are times when it's the perfect tool. Everything has time and place.
I record raw (neutral) video with my GoPro Hero 8 Black.
What? Who is up this early to watch k man?
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İf we buy canon r5 can we shoot raw 4k 🤔 dont care 8k ı dont have a computer to handle it but 4k raw could be great:(
snooker shoot wait what
6:31 "it's just so much more convenient to have an all-in-one package that shoots RAW" - exactly right. So why are people buying $4,000 still cameras + expensive external recorders for RAW video when a $3,995 all-in-one full frame RAW cinema camera (e.g., the Z CAM E2 F6) actually costs less? I've been shooting RAW video on a cheap BMPCC since 2013 & seriously, I don't get it.
Because some people want to use a Nikon/Sony/Panasonic/etc camera *and* get Raw output. Saying "oh just ignore all your other requirements and just use the same camera I do" is missing the point. Also, if the internal raw recording on ZCam was the perfect solution, why did they just release HDMI RAW output to Atomos recorders?
hello😊 just wanna ask if my fuji X-T20 can record on F-log using a monitor/recorder like the atomos?
Had to sneak that qbert in huh lol
BRAW on a 4 or 6K BMD Pocket for comparison?
Here's my video explaining why the sony a7 siii was showing black and white when Kai was recording raw.
Camera Sensor (RealTime Image Processing) - using the magic lantern hack!
ruclips.net/video/XO4dJV4Wt_k/видео.html
Qbert was social distancing.
Ah yes, “wrong setting”. My camera has that a as well
0:08 did kai say "Samsung"??
Is there any lossless compression happening with these raw files?
Dude, my pc can turned into Heather 🤣
You need to follow a tutorial on how to shave my man.
Compared to your most recent output, this is quite interesting, well done :)
carras 😁
raw video 2020... for those with an unlimited hdd budget. Maybe useful in a few years
how long can u record 4k60 on atomos ninja
thats why i own red
Prores raw isn't actually raw, it's essentially just 12bit prores a more efficient compression. Compare to Braw which does allow all the post-production changes to the files.
The *only* thing "Raw" means is that the camera isn't doing any processing on the sensor data before storing it. No debayering, no noise filtering, no colour space manipulation. It's got nothing to do with what tools FCPX or Premiere or Resolve provide to work with it. If you want easy whitebalance control in FCPX for prores raw files, then push Apple to implement it!
no we don't
the bottom line is this: will your customer or video viewer ever notice any difference? The answer is a definitive NO :) So why bother with more work, larger files etc
yeah
“Canon and Samsung,” once again no one acknowledges LG.
Naked Victorian lady + 7-of-9 = me spamming the like button. I am a simple man...
Shooting raw makes your audio sound like it's out of sync? :P
Is your voice been dubbed ?
1 minute ago YOLO
whats AK?
Can’t record internally and to the Atomos on the S1H? What a joke! That’s my normal process on the GH4
Keep the raw cookie dough just give me your camera.
We always shoot raw! But then, we also have two kids.
shooting Log....not that Lok
Well, you wouldn't have all the problems editing RAW if you just used Davinci Resolve ;)
RaW video is for people with obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD)
Resolve. That’s all.