As once Heechul said in Super Tv "When others talk about that rumor people take it as a joke but when you guys start talking about it people think it's real" ... That's how a team should be...LOL
@@MsRoy76ikr.. I don't care what happened between them, with Sm or with ELFs but they all were debuted as SJ once and they all have performed at least once on one stage as Super Junior. So in my heart they'll forever be one group and one family.
I know the rumors blew up because of pretty and "feminine" Heechul was back in the day but I kinda admire him for not strongly denying it for the reason that he thought there wasn't really anything wrong with being gay so he just let it be.
Theres a lot wrong and everyone knows it. The only reason a celebrity would hesitate to codemn lgbt is because Hollywood, the media, and Twitter cancel culture because those industries are full of sickos.
I love how being so embarassed of these rumors or bothered by it, he embraces it and by that doesn't get bothered by the people who spread those rumors just cause he wears makeup or has long hair.
@@aliasheikh2957Sexuality topics are still very sensitive in Korea. Not to mention, if someone made up something that’s not true wouldn’t you be annoyed? I applaud to Heechul for not being ashamed of his more “feminine” image. And it seems like he never strongly denied it bc he respects the LGBTQ community.
He has repeatedly said that he doesn't deny the rumours bécause he doesn't wanna give an impression that being gay is bad or wrong. Either to their queer fans or even to the non-queer fans.
we have a friend like Heechul in my friends group, we would always tease him about him being gay and how it's ok He is absolutly not gay, but it's still funny ahahaha And people do believe it's true at first because it come from us
Um.. it’s funny and all.. but be considerate of his feelings sometimes too... like just ask him if he likes it or just pretends to... everything is alright except that
its different between friends and these people being public figures in a fairly homophobic society though. If your friend doesn't mind then it's fine bc its between you guys but it's still...a weird joke to make. Especially if you say people around you think it's actually true. Like it implies that being gay is funny or it's a joke to trick people into thinking someone is gay when they aren't. While actual gay people have to deal with being called straight and just pretending or following trends. As I say though, your friend group isn't like...on public TV so it's different. I get groups have their own weird jokes and it just depends the context. However, if joking that Heechul is gay is only funny because he isn't gay that's...kind of messed up. I don't really know how to explain it here and I'm sure a youtube comment won't get you to change your views but there's definitely a possible homophobic layer to that joke both in your scenario and in the one with Heechul. I really don't want to be rude since it's just a joke and like idk your life but it's just a possible perspective to consider
Heechul has said that he doesn't accept or deny these rumors because he doesn't want someone from the community to think they should be ashamed of themselves. He's a very sweet guy
@@lilyrose0116 You're naive, he said that because he IS gay. If he trash talked gays, it would be like insulting himself and who he is which he obviously doesn't want to do.
It's too much fun to see that , I realized 😳 when teukiee oppa talk about heechul oppa rumors teukie oppa look happiest in case 😂 even heechul oppa also look so happy even he shy 🤭 also 😂🤣 But it's really good to see both oppa 83line🤍❤ they both are my fav🥺💙💙💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍❤❤🤍🤍🤍
I can't believe I briefly forgot how much I freaking love these guys. My very first top group for waaaaaaaaay way way back. OG variety kings for a reason.
@@Furrina89 he just love himself a bit too much, which is his generational traits (his grandpa from dad and his dad are all like that) 🤣😭 And they get married just fine, heechul’s dad literally the epitomy of head over heels for his wife As much as I ship him with leadernim, I will support him whoever it is, as long as he is happy
@@PurpleRen-cw3mw it was a joke. It's a very common trope in bls, a "straight" playboy who can't stay with one woman finally realises he is in love with his male best friend, who was secretly in love with him for a long time. That said, I know he is probably 99% straight, but sexuality is a spectrum and sometimes even if it's not your original sexuality, you can grow to love someone who doesn't fit your "type". Who knows maybe one day, he just might decide that dating with his forever best friend is better anyways hehe. Don't get me wrong, this is just my Heeteuk shipper speaking.
@@Furrina89 I apologize for wasn’t getting the joke 😭💙 It’s been awhile since I’m too busy to read bls comic Uwaaa, I too heeteuk shipper!! Glad to meet you 😆
If Americans can barely accept that bi's exist, and that someone having a relationship with one gender/sex/identity doesn't exclude them from having interest or attraction in other genders etc, then I don't really see Korea getting it when as a whole they're still a MUCH more conservative country.
If they ever do a Super Generation episode on Knowing bros, it's going to be the end of Heechul. Not even the whole groups, just Sunny and Leetuek is enough.
Leeteuk el mejor líder de los grupos de Kpop que es ejemplo para los grupos más jóvenes, igual que Heenchul es un ejemplo de como debe ser un compañero de grupo y amigo, él los defiende y se expone por ellos sin importar lo que puedan pensar los demás, SUJUXSIEMPRE 💖🇦🇷💖
@@12times21 it's amazing coz the whole Suju was shipping Teukchal... Like kids making divorced parents spend time together so they get back. It's hilarious.
This is from SuperTV season 1, when all members went live on Instagram. But not sure if this scene is included in the episode or this was from their live.
From the clothes, it’s taken during Super TV, but this wasn’t on the superTV Most likely sponsor on super tv that they need to record it for the product promotional Bcs the (funny shape) pillow on their room, ShinDongHae shoot for the product but not shown in supertv
Then booom heachul wasn't gay and he could openly joke about this in knowing bros about rumors after more than 15 years 😂😂 He's strange leader though but when rumors bring more fans they will close their mouth till they grow up and end whomever was living in their delusional world 🤣
I don’t know why I always thought LEETUK was the Gay one….. I always thought HEENCHUL was playing with the public he trolled us 😂😂😂😂 but I wasn’t sure about LEETUK I don’t know why tho hahhaahh
You think oh they so supportive but then you start remember that they homophobic😐Super Junior had this drama that they act kinda gay and supportive through LGBTQ community but in reality they are homophobic. If not please tell me I'm wrong but I remember this drama
I think you may be talking about Siwon on this one. He is very religious so he says that supporting LGBT means denying his religion. But he does also says that he doesnt discriminate lgbt ppl, but he just cant support it (like same sex marriage) since it would go against his religion.... so yeah he's basically homophobe without saying he hates gays. The rest of SuJu are very lgbt friendly though. Even these two on the video are very open about sexuality and say that its not supposed to be treated as bad. Tbh, lgbt on korea is still a hard thing to talk about because as a very conservative country, they are taught that its not something okay and they arent really wiling to change that as even the youth thinks the same. I'm glad idols have more contact with the outside world and do want to learn and change their point of view for fans comfort.
Who cares, almost every business in the world that says it supports your community does this for the money because they know how clingy you are so you're just being used all over.
@@miraa1887 bro shut up. Idols and companies are different. An idol is supposed to represent their fans, their point of view and are influencers which thousand or even million of people follow everyday. An idol being against lgbt community is also denying a part of their fandom and who they are, its someone who you really like and support saying fuck who you are. Also fuck companies who use causes as a way to sell, marketing real issues as products to be sold and used. They are the real issue with why people can't view the importance of commemorative months such as lgbt and black pride month. And honestly, educate yourself before saying shit like this. No one likes corporative marketing.
@@miraa1887Since the public in SK doesn't support homosexuality it does not make money to be positive about it, on the contrary, it will lose money, because you lose more hetero fans than there are gay fans. Men whether gay or straight don't go to SuJu concerts. So if you are part of the community you should admire what SuJu is doing by not caring about being scandalous instead of complaining.
![[collection] Heechul talking about Leeteuk’💙](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lGA5FphJdWE/mqdefault.jpg)
As once Heechul said in Super Tv "When others talk about that rumor people take it as a joke but when you guys start talking about it people think it's real" ... That's how a team should be...LOL
Friends wont be friends unless they do you dirty/wrong 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao .. Poor Heechul 💀
0:38 what event is this?
@@teukchul I think it is SJ returns. Not sure tho. This was time when Hyukjae released from military I think.
@@Elfinablacksuit oh thanks dear🥰
He walked himself into the last one lmao
Yeap💯😂
😂😂😂
teuk literally set him up in the last clip that’s so funny wtf
No, not at all, Heechul trapped himself.
imagine reading that article thinking "this is such hot tea, something to gossip about. some drama." and then you read your name LMAO
fr i wouldn't dare to show up on the streets for MONTHS
Leeteuk as our president of the Petal Fanclub
What's Petal Fanclub ?
@@boho0114 Heechuls fans are called petals, basically ^^
@@boho0114 Leeteuk's fans- Angels
Heechul's - Petals
Kyuhyun's - Gamers
Yesung's - Clouds
Shindong's - Shin Friends
Eunhyuk's - Jewels
Siwon's - Siwonest
Ryeowook - Ryeosomnias
Donghae's - ELFish
Sungmin's - Wings
Kangin's - Chamomiles
Kibum's - Snowers
Hangeng's - Gengsters ( not gangsters ..LOL)
Zhou Mi's - Honeys
Henry's - Strings.
@@Elfinablacksuit I love that you didn't leave out our other boys even though they left super junior doesn't mean they were never super junior
@@MsRoy76ikr.. I don't care what happened between them, with Sm or with ELFs but they all were debuted as SJ once and they all have performed at least once on one stage as Super Junior. So in my heart they'll forever be one group and one family.
I know the rumors blew up because of pretty and "feminine" Heechul was back in the day but I kinda admire him for not strongly denying it for the reason that he thought there wasn't really anything wrong with being gay so he just let it be.
he started that rumour so he could get close to girls, at least that's what Leetuek says!
@@andreww2098
Heechul is really smart and he can be manipulative so I actually wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true.
Theres a lot wrong and everyone knows it. The only reason a celebrity would hesitate to codemn lgbt is because Hollywood, the media, and Twitter cancel culture because those industries are full of sickos.
@@andreww2098 so basically that's also a rumour from Eeteuk aswell 😂😂😂😂😂
@@andreww2098 and it worked, didn't it? He started dating Momo. The man SCORED.
I love how Chullie never denies the rumors in a negative manner because he knows being gay isn't a bad thing. We love a true king
I love how being so embarassed of these rumors or bothered by it, he embraces it and by that doesn't get bothered by the people who spread those rumors just cause he wears makeup or has long hair.
Meanwhile Heechul has wrote an fanfic about heeteuk before
Excuse me?? 🤣
@@MicukoFelton well that is true😂
@@mellannie_mirage wait... did he really???
W H A T
Wait what🤣🤣🤣
Heechul attacking everyone every time everywhere 😈😈💀🤬💥💥
Leeteuk : don't worry I know him better than anyone 😜
i also like how heechul doesnt act super defensive like most cis men would when joked about their sexuality
He is gay... 🙄
i mean if theyre not gay why would it be a bad thing that they get upset if u say that they are
I mean there’s nothing wrong in getting defensive about it if they’re not gay…
@@aliasheikh2957Sexuality topics are still very sensitive in Korea. Not to mention, if someone made up something that’s not true wouldn’t you be annoyed? I applaud to Heechul for not being ashamed of his more “feminine” image. And it seems like he never strongly denied it bc he respects the LGBTQ community.
He has repeatedly said that he doesn't deny the rumours bécause he doesn't wanna give an impression that being gay is bad or wrong. Either to their queer fans or even to the non-queer fans.
we have a friend like Heechul in my friends group, we would always tease him about him being gay and how it's ok
He is absolutly not gay, but it's still funny ahahaha
And people do believe it's true at first because it come from us
Um.. it’s funny and all.. but be considerate of his feelings sometimes too... like just ask him if he likes it or just pretends to... everything is alright except that
Heechul literally dated momo so he is definitely bi
@@Cocoa_miller25 ahaha, don't worry about him, he's very fine. He is currently living with his girlfriend and is very happy
@@leeknowcutie1514 why not hetero?
its different between friends and these people being public figures in a fairly homophobic society though. If your friend doesn't mind then it's fine bc its between you guys but it's still...a weird joke to make. Especially if you say people around you think it's actually true. Like it implies that being gay is funny or it's a joke to trick people into thinking someone is gay when they aren't. While actual gay people have to deal with being called straight and just pretending or following trends. As I say though, your friend group isn't like...on public TV so it's different. I get groups have their own weird jokes and it just depends the context.
However, if joking that Heechul is gay is only funny because he isn't gay that's...kind of messed up. I don't really know how to explain it here and I'm sure a youtube comment won't get you to change your views but there's definitely a possible homophobic layer to that joke both in your scenario and in the one with Heechul. I really don't want to be rude since it's just a joke and like idk your life but it's just a possible perspective to consider
Gay or not, Heechul, you make gay guys feel happy and proud.
Heechul has said that he doesn't accept or deny these rumors because he doesn't want someone from the community to think they should be ashamed of themselves. He's a very sweet guy
i love starting my day seeing such a cute comment
@@lilyrose0116
You're naive, he said that because he IS gay. If he trash talked gays, it would be like insulting himself and who he is which he obviously doesn't want to do.
Leeteuk coming out as bi makes so much sense now
It's too much fun to see that , I realized 😳 when teukiee oppa talk about heechul oppa rumors teukie oppa look happiest in case 😂 even heechul oppa also look so happy even he shy 🤭 also 😂🤣
But it's really good to see both oppa 83line🤍❤ they both are my fav🥺💙💙💙💙💙🤍🤍🤍❤❤🤍🤍🤍
Are you Korean?
@@BlackSwan.1984 no 😅 why
@@xxxayyyy0107 cause you're using oppa. 😅
@@xxxayyyy0107 cringe. Ugh
@@9754s 😅😂
I can't believe I briefly forgot how much I freaking love these guys. My very first top group for waaaaaaaaay way way back. OG variety kings for a reason.
love how he doesn't let it get to him and laughs it off and accepts unlike others, he gives very positive attitude. nothing wrong with being gay.
Love how Heechul is so particular yet so dang chill
Heechul wasn't that chill a few years ago. Lol He was so so funny.
funny how this video resurfaced to me after recent events
Leeteuk exposing Heechul 😂
He's manifesting it✨️🤣
I'm in love with teukchul 💜☺️😂
Nobody:
Leeteuk: Anyways let’s expose Heechul todayyyy🤗
Leeteuk proving his position among Petals. 😂😂😂
Not RUclips recommending me this after his coming out 😅(Leeteuk)
There fan service is in another level 🤣
Heechul denied the rumors from 2005-09, he got tired and let people think what they want now. He already made clear that he is not gay.
With how many relationships he's been in for the past 17 years, I doubt people actually believe he's gay
@@notmyname3556Unless.... He never sticks with one woman for too long because he is secretly in love with his male best friend
@@Furrina89 he just love himself a bit too much, which is his generational traits (his grandpa from dad and his dad are all like that) 🤣😭
And they get married just fine, heechul’s dad literally the epitomy of head over heels for his wife
As much as I ship him with leadernim, I will support him whoever it is, as long as he is happy
@@PurpleRen-cw3mw it was a joke. It's a very common trope in bls, a "straight" playboy who can't stay with one woman finally realises he is in love with his male best friend, who was secretly in love with him for a long time.
That said, I know he is probably 99% straight, but sexuality is a spectrum and sometimes even if it's not your original sexuality, you can grow to love someone who doesn't fit your "type".
Who knows maybe one day, he just might decide that dating with his forever best friend is better anyways hehe. Don't get me wrong, this is just my Heeteuk shipper speaking.
@@Furrina89 I apologize for wasn’t getting the joke 😭💙
It’s been awhile since I’m too busy to read bls comic
Uwaaa, I too heeteuk shipper!! Glad to meet you 😆
The fact that there has never been rumours about him being bi...
Thats too hard a concept for mainstream media
If Americans can barely accept that bi's exist, and that someone having a relationship with one gender/sex/identity doesn't exclude them from having interest or attraction in other genders etc, then I don't really see Korea getting it when as a whole they're still a MUCH more conservative country.
Yes, there -was- were rumors because some people didn't accept the fact that he is gay so they said he is bi instead.
@@bagofcorn7434
Mainstream media ? Yeah, because mainstream media have anything to do with that, ofc... 🤡
Love this hairstyle of Heechul.
100 points for the caption!
the thumbnail looks GORGEOUS
Heechul has always been so fine
i can't forget the friendliness between him and mithra from epik high 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.... which was considered dating scandal lol
Either of them can hug me.
After leeteuk came out as bi i am shocked😂
Awwwww
Yaar
Heechul is so cute n scary at a time
If they ever do a Super Generation episode on Knowing bros, it's going to be the end of Heechul. Not even the whole groups, just Sunny and Leetuek is enough.
Leeteuk el mejor líder de los grupos de Kpop que es ejemplo para los grupos más jóvenes, igual que Heenchul es un ejemplo de como debe ser un compañero de grupo y amigo, él los defiende y se expone por ellos sin importar lo que puedan pensar los demás, SUJUXSIEMPRE 💖🇦🇷💖
Hahahaha Leeteuk oppa is too funny xD
OMG he looked so done 😂
Where is the last clip from?
I think season 3 of SJ returns when they had to partner with someone they’re awkward with and spend the day together
@@12times21 I see, thank you for answering 😊
that's from LT's live Instagram during super tv mission(?), but not aired on super tv cmiiw
@@12times21 it's amazing coz the whole Suju was shipping Teukchal... Like kids making divorced parents spend time together so they get back. It's hilarious.
This is from SuperTV season 1, when all members went live on Instagram. But not sure if this scene is included in the episode or this was from their live.
what‘s the name of the song in the first clip?
Does anyone know where the last clip is from? I’ve been wondering for a while
From the clothes, it’s taken during Super TV, but this wasn’t on the superTV
Most likely sponsor on super tv that they need to record it for the product promotional
Bcs the (funny shape) pillow on their room, ShinDongHae shoot for the product but not shown in supertv
@@PurpleRen-cw3mw Yeah right? I just wonder where the full clip would be available because I’ve always only seen little bits and pieces
Then booom heachul wasn't gay and he could openly joke about this in knowing bros about rumors after more than 15 years 😂😂
He's strange leader though but when rumors bring more fans they will close their mouth till they grow up and end whomever was living in their delusional world 🤣
They will kill them with truth.
job well done.
Who are they??? They look like such fun people
Leeteuk and Heechul, from Super Junior 🌝
@@itsxelf thank youu ♡
what is the song in the first clip
It's called moments in love by Charlie xcx ruclips.net/video/4-FR_YaXdlg/видео.htmlsi=FEN8LQ00Z_pxT9f2
What's the show's name at 0:36 and 0:46?
Suju returns and super tv
@@SyarmimiMN thanks❤
@@SyarmimiMN apakah anda tahu keduanya ada di episode berapa?
0:38 what event is it?
SJ Return 1 but the paid content one
@@vzeros ah sayang sekali, aku ingin melihatnya 🥺
sure...
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMFAOOOO
Heisno but kjk is
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I don’t know why I always thought LEETUK was the Gay one…..
I always thought HEENCHUL was playing with the public he trolled us 😂😂😂😂 but I wasn’t sure about LEETUK I don’t know why tho hahhaahh
Well idk cause im pretty sure Heechul isnt gay
@@pjm875 well we all know HEENCHUL is straight,I was talking about LEETUK tho
Cause everyone is making funny HEENCHUL
Kim Hee Chul and Cho Kyu Hyun are not gays.
0:31 for god sake what the fu*k did he just say that its a boy group and also have 2 ex's also heechul😑😑
You think oh they so supportive but then you start remember that they homophobic😐Super Junior had this drama that they act kinda gay and supportive through LGBTQ community but in reality they are homophobic. If not please tell me I'm wrong but I remember this drama
I think you may be talking about Siwon on this one. He is very religious so he says that supporting LGBT means denying his religion. But he does also says that he doesnt discriminate lgbt ppl, but he just cant support it (like same sex marriage) since it would go against his religion....
so yeah he's basically homophobe without saying he hates gays.
The rest of SuJu are very lgbt friendly though. Even these two on the video are very open about sexuality and say that its not supposed to be treated as bad.
Tbh, lgbt on korea is still a hard thing to talk about because as a very conservative country, they are taught that its not something okay and they arent really wiling to change that as even the youth thinks the same. I'm glad idols have more contact with the outside world and do want to learn and change their point of view for fans comfort.
@@Yumi-th1rg okay, thanks for explaining💙
Who cares, almost every business in the world that says it supports your community does this for the money because they know how clingy you are so you're just being used all over.
@@miraa1887 bro shut up. Idols and companies are different. An idol is supposed to represent their fans, their point of view and are influencers which thousand or even million of people follow everyday.
An idol being against lgbt community is also denying a part of their fandom and who they are, its someone who you really like and support saying fuck who you are.
Also fuck companies who use causes as a way to sell, marketing real issues as products to be sold and used. They are the real issue with why people can't view the importance of commemorative months such as lgbt and black pride month.
And honestly, educate yourself before saying shit like this. No one likes corporative marketing.
@@miraa1887Since the public in SK doesn't support homosexuality it does not make money to be positive about it, on the contrary, it will lose money, because you lose more hetero fans than there are gay fans. Men whether gay or straight don't go to SuJu concerts. So if you are part of the community you should admire what SuJu is doing by not caring about being scandalous instead of complaining.
Heechul is supergay
Nor
I love Leeteuk and I hate heechul. I don't know why but I never liked heechul ever and i don't think I'll ever like him either.