As a Michigan resident, I can I say that Michigan adventure turns me away from going due to the lack of rides. I'd rather drive to Cedar Point or Canada's Wonderland. Even kings island would be worth the long drive. They need to invest a bit more in the park. What was their last ride? A recycled coaster added in 2008?
We turned away from MIA , due to the changing rooms and bathrooms sharing the same tight space. some man defecated in 1 of the mens changing rooms gross!
As a Michigan resident who has been to Michigan adventure twice and can say that I prefer to spend most of my time in the water park because the more attractions and fewer waits are better make it worth my time than an outdated and uncomfortable ride in corkscrew, two great wooden roller coasters, but they are still wooden which I don’t really like, and thunder hawk which is just a smaller raptor.
2 Things I loved about Wicked Twister: 1.) This ride added sooooo much to the skyline. Wicked Twister framing the Farris wheel with lake eerie behind is absolutely gorgeous. 2.) In a park where most rides get super long lines in the busy season, this was one of the few major rides I could always get on without much of line
TTD is a HUGE expense for them, the roi when it is running is really good which is why it won’t go. Granted I’m curious to see how everything eventually plays out from that accident. The woman injured I believe is still in the hospital with brain injuries which is no joke. Praying she makes a full recovery.
Personally, I'd much rather have a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster than a GCI or Gravity Group wooden coaster. Cedar Point has literally everything EXCEPT for hangtime. They have crazy launches (Dragster and Maverick), they have inversions (Raptor and Rougarou), they have super fast and tall rides (Millennium Force and Dragster), they have floater airtime (Millennium Force), they have ejector airtime (Maverick and Steel Vengeance), they have super snappy transitions (Maverick and Raptor), they have a beyond vertical drop (Maverick), the only thing they are missing is a ride with good hangtime. GateKeeper and Valravn don't count. I'm talking like the hangtime you get on Full Throttle's loop or one of those RMC stalls (like on Goliath or Twisted Colossus). A Gerstlauer infinity coaster with a vertical lift would fill the hangtime gap and the vertical lift gap perfectly
Personally, I feel like the RMC rolls give some of the best hangtime... but I do agree that they should do an infinity coaster. Both for forceful inversions and for hangtime. As sad as I'd be to see it go, I think that when they get a GCI, they'll have to take out gemini... or maybe CCMR, which would be preferable.
@@josiahsimmons9866 the only RMCs ive been on are Twisted Colossus and Steel Vengeance (I'm going on Stunt Pilot tomorrow), and that stall on Twisted Colossus (green side inversion) was my favorite element of the entire ride. I can't imagine how good Goliath's stall is at SFGAM
Tbh I don’t think so. Or at least not yet. That plot of land is too small for 15 inversions anyway. I feel like anything more than the smilers 14 is a bit overkill and not really necessary
@@bigbman1471 Wicked Twister was an awesome ride. They had employee ride night on Monday and I rode it for 1 1/2 hours straight!! Then, had to take a real Wicked Pisser!! I for one am going to miss this ride.
I think a great fit if they get enough land would be a gravity group wooden shuttle coaster. They once had plans to make one at Dorney but it looks like it fell through after the pandemic. However this shows Cedar Fair would be willing to work with Gravity Group and this coaster is the perfect one that pays homage to Cyclone and Wicked Twister. They could market this as the tallest wooden shuttle coaster or first wooden roller coaster to go backwards through an inversion. I think if Cedar Fair wants to build a new woodie that could fill the modern woodie void and build a record breaker this is the best way to do it.
Possessed is actually 2 years older than Wicked Twister. Originally opened at Geauga Lake in 2000. So unfortunately, it would likely get scrapped before Wicked Twister unless they decide to use Wicked Twister for spare parts. Anything is possible! 🤷🏼♂️
Capacity looks horrible on those. It would be cool, but it's gonna take a few rounds of prototyping to get operations right. I think we'll see someplace in Japan take that chance before US chains really go for it.
@@MrSRArter Independent parks are a different animal from chains. I am not sure how much independence Kennywood has now under Parques Reunidos/Palace Entertainment, but under Kennywood Entertainment I could see that as a possibility, too.
I’ve been saying the same thing!! Especially considering they’re working with S&S (Tumbili). Although, I don’t think it’d fit nor be strategically smart to put right beside Gatekeeper. I’m thinking in the small employee parking lot beside Gemini and take up a little of the water park parking lot, maybe reroute the road too.
nah. x2 is overrated anyway. great rides go beyond expectations, they hit you with something when you don't expect it. x2 you have no control, no expectations. kinda like those free spinning rides.
as a sandusky local and park frequent, i went yesterday and noticed mobile offices right next to WT. my speculation goes in two directions, A) they're there to remove the ride rather than demolish it (likely to be moved to another park) or B) they're surveying the land. a friend noticed some spray painted markings with abbreviations on the ground in the area... potentially a new addition!
My idea is they will remove Wicked Twister and move the stage and seating area that is currently in front of Iron Dragon over to the beach area. This would allow them to use that area as well as the area where they removed the dorms for something new. That stage where it currently sits causes a traffic jam. I don't think they will build a wooden roller coaster right along the beach as that would completely block the park off from the beach and that was one of the reasons they gave for wanting to remove Disaster Transport.
I completely agree about the woodie. I know a lot of old school coaster enthusiasts really like woodies, but there aren't many woodies that don't turn into a chiropractors wet dream after a few years of operation. I liked the 2nd prediction in the vid. I think a flashy light show fits well with the beach theme 9f that area. But I also think your prediction could happen too. Maybe a new coaster won't be going in that area at all.
@@justinschievenin8839 I think Cedar Point does need to add a wooden coaster, but not right at the beach. If they add a moderately sized one from GCI it won't get too rough over time. Their newer ones seem to remain pretty nice. Mystic Timbers is 5 years old and it's still smooth.
Even though they haven't really worked with Mack, it seems to me an ideal spot for a Mack Powersplash with the looping. I mean if they would want to use not a lot of space still have a launch coaster. And it would be the first of it's kind. The Splash would also look great next to the water.
We as members of the World's of Fun committee would like Cedar Fair to consider giving us Wicked Twister. We don't care if it's a hand me downs or not... we just want a new coaster!
If they had it planned out a bit, they could have sent Wicked Twister to Kings Dominion rather than putting in the Freespin. Probably would have saved some money, slightly filled in the gap left by Volcano with an inverted launch but with a shuttle rather than a full circuit, and something that actually has some capacity.
The most straightforward thing would be a Mack Power Splash (or the Intamin rip off.) While a lot of people would be disappointed, the fact is that it's narrow and long and Cedar Point desperately needs to plus up its water rides. That said, my guess is that they go with the GCI after waiting a few years. My personal pick would be to add an old boardwalk style dark ride like the Haunted Castle at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk. I'd love to see Cedar Point have a fun dark ride and it would be extremely popular. Plus, Cedar Point is sort of a boardwalk park on steroids so it would fit really well.
IDK why I’m thinking this but what if universal studios Orlando could get a ride like Wicked Twister. It is lacking on roller coasters at that park. It would go with the theme of the movie Twister. Probably won’t happen though. It would be a cool addition.
Taylor, with all your knowledge on everything (theme parks, rides, coasters, their manufacturers…the list is endless😁), I absolutely love listening to your perspective and your thought process on this particular subject. It’s not a put-down to other channel’s perspectives. I just REALLY trust your judgment on this. Like I always say (when I comment), I’ve been here from practically the beginning of your RUclips journey and watching you grow and become such an extraordinary young man ( close in age to my son), makes me so happy and proud😊. I just like to comment sometimes and continue to encourage. I know you have a mom for that😀😀, but it’s so wonderful to see someone in the younger generation be so passionate about your goals and truly be able to do what inspires you. Ok, I’m finished😁😁😁. Take care Taylor. Loved the video👏👏.
maybe a nice big spinning coaster? whatever goes in I think the light package is a must. some people think Max Air is on it's way out because it's broken so maybe a redo of the entire area. Giant Wheel could either be moved or 86'd, it's pretty old. they could definitely get rid of that kiddie area. maybe even move the Troika and Tiki Twirl
Wicked twister has a special place in my heart I got ride this ride before anybody else did I was selected to be in the photo shoots and the commercials for the ride so I got to ride it before it open to the public I sat on the ride for about 8 hours in one day doing all the photo shoots and commercials
I would be absolutely stunned if cedar point put up a wooden coaster in this plot of land. Their whole thing about that part of the park for the last few years has been to “open back up the view of the beach”, and while it would be nostalgic to have a wooden coaster there like in the past, what I personally think they should do is construct some sort of pier that goes out onto Lake Erie. You could end up moving the wheel out there, a bunch of midway games maybe another smaller ride and then thereafter use the space that wicked twister, the wheel, and the stadium occupied to throw in a Gerstlauer record breaking coaster.
The other issue with a modern woodie is that KI has a relatively new one in mystic timber’s and it’s kind counter intuitive for them to put two new woodies so close to each other. Also an infinity coaster is semi similar to valravn which is also kinda new. I don’t think this will keep cp from installing either model, but it’s something they’re definitely thinking about.
I'm betting they build out that boardwalk/pier into the lake that's been floating around as an idea for a decade, and then they can put a classic style woodie out on that.
While I was saying for the last 3 or so years that Wicked Twister was next on the chopping block, it certainly came as a surprise that it was closing this early. I thought it still had a couple years left in the tank, but I guess not.
First things first, Wicked Twister can't go to michigans adventure, they have a height limit :( but also MaxAir has been closed all year so they may potentially remove that as well. It failed inspection and has huge maintenance costs.
What has huge maintenance costs? MaxAir has not operated at all this season, yet Delirium at Kings Island has. It had something to do with a motor on MaxAir.
@@timothykaczmarek5871 That ride model is notorious for problems, the one at Six Flags St.Louis hasn't operated in many years. They're all around terrible.
One coaster that I feel is definitely missing from this park is a B&M flying coaster. I don't see how you could pass up an opportunity to get some incredible bird's eye views of the beachfront as you're soaring right next to it!
It has the highest chance of it going to CGA, they have the plot of land in which the shuttle loop once stood. FireFall was also removed as well. It’ll bring back another launched coaster to the park. Yeah there’s another impulse nearby with Flash Vertical Velocity at Discovery Kingdom, but honestly, people would see Wicked as the superior one so it’ll definitely work out. And plus, it’s in the masterplans and in the picture they use Wicked as an example. So all signs does point to CGA. Time will tell.
It's highly possible it's going to end up a CGA in that exact area we do need a launch coaster and it's in the master plan wouldn't that be something if they name it tidal wave as a tribute to the old coaster
Long stery.... I'm 38, and have always been obsessed with coasters, but the term "enthusiast" was never something in my vocab until recently. In 2005 I spent a summer working in Detroit and saw ads for TFD at CP...this was well before YT. I grew up in SoCal so SFMM was the standard for me. That said, I HAD TO go to CP to ride TFD. I did, and it was EMPTY...MF was outstanding, TFD was incredible...but something about WT really stood out to me! Nowadays I am much much versed in coaster culture and know that WT is pretty "meh" but to me it is still a great ride! Similar to Montezumas Revenge, not super special, but....a solid ride!
Thinking about the additions since steel vengeance, they've been mostly family related I think. So I could see them revamping this area with a more functional stage to replace the awkward one by Iron Dragon
General park improvements leads me to think that it will be more boardwalk and beach theme than a record breaking coaster. They still haven't done anything to the old Cedar Dorms and Wildcat area really and that is a much bigger plot to work with.
We’ll find out starting after Sept. 6 if WT is being relocated. Pay attention to how they remove it. Are they tearing it apart, or are they taking it apart piece by piece?
I like the idea of sending Wicked Twister to Michigan's Adventure. I agree that either the GCI or Gerstlauer would be a good fit here. If they go for the larger plot, then I'd prefer the GCI, which would end up being an L shaped out and back layout. It could pay homage in some way to the early days of Cedar Point. My only issue is I think it would block the view of the lake. If they go with the smaller plot, then a Gerstlauer would be more compact, especially if it has a vertical lift hill. Breaking the inversion record would be good, but isn't necessarily needed.
I honestly hope they go for either a Gerstlauer Infinity or an RMC Raptor/T-Rex. My reasons why: A Gerstlauer Infinity would mostly be an excellent addition to the park because Cedar Point has a great track record of record breakers, being home to the world’s first ever Hyper Coaster Magnum XL-200 reaching over 200 feet, the world’s first ever Giga Millennium Force at over 300 feet, and the first ever Strata Top Thrill Dragster at over 400 feet. With a Gerstlauer Infinity, they could break a new world record with most inversions, possibly 15 or more, and maybe introduce new inverting elements as well as add in some rarely found ones. An RMC Raptor/T-Rex would be another good option, seeing as how RMC is the most well-respected manufacturer in the amusement industry. A Raptor would be an excellent addition to the park, although I am leaning a bit towards a T-Rex model, since one has yet to be built. They could make it the tallest single-rail coaster to be built (Jersey Devil at Six Flags Great Adventure is currently the tallest at 130 ft.) and draw in a bunch of crowds. Maybe draw in even more by making it a T-Rex model, because as I said before, one has yet to be built.
I say send it to either Knotts or CGA. Yeah, I know parks like Worlds of Fun, Valleyfair, and especially Michigan's Adventure could really use this ride, but CGA and Knotts actually have a lot of potential. (In terms of being a stand-out Cedar Fair park, that is.)
I’d love to see a woodie like Twister at Gröna Lund in Sweden, the one that’s inspired by Lost Coaster of Superstition Mountain and has really sharp turns and drops so it fits in a tight space. Heck, maybe a taller and better version of LoCoSuMo itself if that’s even possible.
Twister is crazy not only for the small footprint, but also the two preexisting coasters that travel through that space. I really have to plan a Scandinavia trip one day. Tusenfryd, Gröna Lund, and Kolmården are all on my list.
They can obviously do what they want, but I think a beyond vertical drop would overshadow Valravn in the minds of the GP, so I would guess that if they got an infinity coster they would make it a launch instead.
In a normal park this is true but at cedar point they literally have ‘everything’ as long as a beyond vertical drop didn’t have the holding brake like a b&m dive I can see them building one.
They aren’t sending the ride anywhere. It’s a maintenance nightmare, it uses 3000kwh of electricity per cycle so it’s really expensive to operate. They were thinking to replace it with an S&S 4D Spin coaster but management is concerned about ride capacity so they’re testing this kind of ride at Kings Dominion next season.
I rode it twice at the end of July, not knowing it would be closing for good 😢. I hope they can save this ride as there aren’t many impulse coasters left out there
Just because of the space available: throwing in a Mack Power Splash. Upgrading what they had. For the record they could go for the first one with a looping as that concept was presented by Mack already. Looks like it also could fit the "beach feeling"
Yeah, not my favorite coaster at CP, but I'll definitely miss the way the ride ops had fun with the timing of the launch: "Launching in 3...2...(LAUNCH)."
I can feel the burst and rush of the ride as I read that. That feeling never goes away. My top favorite rides is now gone, so sad. My hands and feet were always up.
for this being my home park, i ain’t sad to see this go, but i really wanna see a vertical lift coaster or something because i’ve never got to ride one
I never got on it oh well. But it looked as fun as I thought it would be. I am now can't go its not open today and tomorrow on may 7 I am going to cedar point for fun and really enjoyed this I made a friend IN CEDAR POINT.
That plot of land is perfect for a modern recreation of the Crystal Beach Cyclone. The price tag wouldn't be huge, RMC box track or GCI Titan track would make it smooth and safe, and the setting on Lake Erie is appropriate. There wouldn't be any records broken, unless attendance counts.
I think CP could also really use an indoor coaster. That’s been a gap in their lineup since Disaster Transport was taken out. Especially location wise where they get a lot of rain frequently they could really use an indoor attraction for people to flock to. They could definitely break a record for indoor coasters easily.
Went to Cedar Point for the first time ever this summer, heard about wicked twister going away, and decided why not. I had one ride on wicked twister, and the ride stalled and we got stuck on it. It was fun before that part though
My guesses: A Mack PowerSplash paired up with a Mack Twist 'n' Splash A recording-breaking Guerstlauer Infinity with both the most inversions and the steepest drop A Mack Xtreme Spinner A boardwalk style (yet alot more thrilling than Blue Streak) CGI wooden coaster An S&S 4D Freespin (These are good for smaller parks but I'm personally hoping it's not this for Cedar Point.)
There’s a really infamous wooden coaster model called the cyclone safety coaster. I would love to see gravity group re-create that layout to where it’s actually as safe as the name will make you think
Honestly, what about a Mack PowerSplash, or even the first Mack PowerLoop? That would be quite dope and would fit in without having to work with too much land
Maybe they will replace the wicked twister plot with a coaster type we don’t know about yet. Worlds first standing upside down coaster. Your feet are up, and your head is down, and when you invert, you are right side up. Or you know, not that
I bet it gets relocated. Michigan's Adventure, Valleyfair, or Worlds of Fun would be perfect. They could even sell it to a smaller independent park like Lagoon, Elitch Gardens, or Holiday World. It doesn't take up much space and would instantly become a headliner attraction at any of those parks.
Rather than a GCI, I think a Gravitykraft woodie makes more sense for this spot, something like a supersized Mine Blower. Those can be made ultra compact while GCIs tend to be more sprawling, and it would be much easier for Cedar Point to break a record with that type of ride. I also doubt an Infinity at Cedar Point...HangTime's theoretical capacity is less than Wicked Twister's was, and even with outstanding Cedar Point operations such a ride would struggle. As for where Wicked Twister is going, my bet would be Worlds of Fun if it stays in the chain, but I think it's more likely that Cedar Fair sells it outside the chain. I doubt it would get scrapped completely as it's not that old and could be refurbished and installed at a smaller park.
I think there is a very small possibility that cedar point could get the worlds tallest and possibly longest S&S Free Fly coaster. I have a hunch about this only because there is Tumbili that is coming to Kings Dominion which is also a cedar fair park. That was for a ride that was also in a compact part of land. They could put the queue where that stadium was before. Obviously capacity would be a problem with that but it could be a decent fit if they want to save money and find a compact ride for the space. Cedar Fair also doesn't have a free fly coaster in their lineup yet. Would be the first one in the ohio area too.
Cedar Point still has 3 wood coasters, Blue Streak, Steel Vengeance, and Gemini! 😄 haha for that reason I think the Gerstlauer is more likely, GP would get more of a unique ride experience with that vs a modern woodie, vertical lift, world's steepest beyond vertical drop, inversion focused - plus it has potential to be more compact for that space. I think the GCI makes more sense in that potential plot over by Maverick. But I thought for a while the Gerstlauer would cross perimeter road to the monster truck area, so who knows
A wildcard prediction: a Premier Skyrocket II would fit there. A silly prediction: a Vekoma SLC with the original head restraints. A WTF prediction: a joint effort between TOGO and RCCA to construct an SLC with VR and volare-style trains.
a skyrocket 2 would be nice or a flyer around the park named constellation with the cedar fair font flag dotted eye to show the amount of coasters they could get and that it might be the last one since the next ones will go around the park
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Send it to Michigan’s Adventure. It will be the largest park improvement since the new park bench they added a few years ago.
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As a Michigan resident, I can I say that Michigan adventure turns me away from going due to the lack of rides. I'd rather drive to Cedar Point or Canada's Wonderland. Even kings island would be worth the long drive. They need to invest a bit more in the park. What was their last ride? A recycled coaster added in 2008?
We turned away from MIA , due to the changing rooms and bathrooms sharing the same tight space. some man defecated in 1 of the mens changing rooms gross!
As a Michigan resident who has been to Michigan adventure twice and can say that I prefer to spend most of my time in the water park because the more attractions and fewer waits are better make it worth my time than an outdated and uncomfortable ride in corkscrew, two great wooden roller coasters, but they are still wooden which I don’t really like, and thunder hawk which is just a smaller raptor.
2 Things I loved about Wicked Twister:
1.) This ride added sooooo much to the skyline. Wicked Twister framing the Farris wheel with lake eerie behind is absolutely gorgeous.
2.) In a park where most rides get super long lines in the busy season, this was one of the few major rides I could always get on without much of line
Damn, this was the ride that made me love Roller Coasters and helped me conquer my fear of heights. I'm gonna miss this ride.
That’s almost exactly the shape of the Jersey Devil. An RMC Raptor can be compact and not too hard to break records with only 4 (2 layouts) out there.
The only problem with a Raptor is low capacity *cough cough* Magic Mountain *cough cough*
They did it at great adventure and that is definitely a big busy park. They definitely could do it here, assuming they run 4 trains like JD does.
Yeah they need RMC trex when top thrill is removed
They need it to be 50% taller, faster, longer, etc. JDC is a good but not what cedar fair should settle for at their flag ship.
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A proper ‘Boardwalk’ with a peer and coaster going out into the lake similar to Great Nor’easter At Morey’s.
That honestly would be really cool
I've heard they are replacing it with a 2 story restaurant.
That'd be sweet
@@AragornTrueKing That would not be really cool lol
@@coolioam8137 tell me about about it....
Cedar Fair: "Hey, Wicked Twister is too expensive to maintain, let's get rid of it"
Me: [Stares in Top Thrill Dragster]
You definitely nailed THAT ONE!! That thing is also known as Top Thrill DUMPSTER, or Top Thrill Downtime!!
They are not getting rid of it (wicked twister) they are moving it to knotts Berry farm
TTD is a HUGE expense for them, the roi when it is running is really good which is why it won’t go. Granted I’m curious to see how everything eventually plays out from that accident. The woman injured I believe is still in the hospital with brain injuries which is no joke. Praying she makes a full recovery.
@@snoboard91503 very nice sentiment and words for the person injured. Same here, wishing her well.
@@superRobertoist Top Thrill DUMPSTER is going to Knott's??
Personally, I'd much rather have a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster than a GCI or Gravity Group wooden coaster. Cedar Point has literally everything EXCEPT for hangtime. They have crazy launches (Dragster and Maverick), they have inversions (Raptor and Rougarou), they have super fast and tall rides (Millennium Force and Dragster), they have floater airtime (Millennium Force), they have ejector airtime (Maverick and Steel Vengeance), they have super snappy transitions (Maverick and Raptor), they have a beyond vertical drop (Maverick), the only thing they are missing is a ride with good hangtime. GateKeeper and Valravn don't count. I'm talking like the hangtime you get on Full Throttle's loop or one of those RMC stalls (like on Goliath or Twisted Colossus). A Gerstlauer infinity coaster with a vertical lift would fill the hangtime gap and the vertical lift gap perfectly
Personally, I feel like the RMC rolls give some of the best hangtime... but I do agree that they should do an infinity coaster. Both for forceful inversions and for hangtime. As sad as I'd be to see it go, I think that when they get a GCI, they'll have to take out gemini... or maybe CCMR, which would be preferable.
@@josiahsimmons9866 the only RMCs ive been on are Twisted Colossus and Steel Vengeance (I'm going on Stunt Pilot tomorrow), and that stall on Twisted Colossus (green side inversion) was my favorite element of the entire ride. I can't imagine how good Goliath's stall is at SFGAM
@@josiahsimmons9866 I hope Gemini doesn't get removed.
@@ArrowThrills Me neither, the airtime is pretty unique, but we have to face the fact that eventually it'll go... :'(
It’s certainly possible that they go for 15 inversions since they’re celebrating 150 years
Ooooh I like this idea
@coaster wolfI’m in Michigan so no hard feelings but I think cedar point could possibly do it
Tbh I don’t think so. Or at least not yet. That plot of land is too small for 15 inversions anyway. I feel like anything more than the smilers 14 is a bit overkill and not really necessary
I really want this... have for like 2-3 years.
@coaster wolf I completely agree
Man I’m sad to see this go, but I’m sure it will be a worthwhile replacement.
I have doubts it will be better than wicked twister but still a good replacement
@@bigbman1471 Wicked Twister was an awesome ride. They had employee ride night on Monday and I rode it for 1 1/2 hours straight!! Then, had to take a real Wicked Pisser!! I for one am going to miss this ride.
@@timothykaczmarek5871 same. I got my last three rides on it today and it was awesome but kind of sad. I will definitely miss it
I Only rode Wicked Twister one time with my friend and it wasn't a bad ride at all.
@@ArrowThrills I love wicked twister and in the back it was insane. I am really sad to see it go and doubt the replacement will be just as good
I think a great fit if they get enough land would be a gravity group wooden shuttle coaster. They once had plans to make one at Dorney but it looks like it fell through after the pandemic. However this shows Cedar Fair would be willing to work with Gravity Group and this coaster is the perfect one that pays homage to Cyclone and Wicked Twister. They could market this as the tallest wooden shuttle coaster or first wooden roller coaster to go backwards through an inversion. I think if Cedar Fair wants to build a new woodie that could fill the modern woodie void and build a record breaker this is the best way to do it.
Good idea
@@chargedonpc9989 thanks
I‘m afraid this would limit capacity too much, even with switchbacks and such
@@smuella yeah thats true but still it would be cool to have there
@@smuella even if they get 2-3 trains on because switchback at ZDTs is able to run with multiple trains.
Michigan’s Adventures needs a new coaster BADLY! Give the twister to them!
So does WoF. If they give it to another park I'd hope it'd be one of those two
MiA desperately needs a new coaster. But not a 20 year old coaster that breaks down a lot and is expensive to operate.
NV_Spartan exactly. I see this fitting way more at WoF, especially considering they already have a 200 footer so it wouldn’t stick out as much
@@nv_spartan1771 Wicked Twister is actually very reliable. Just expensive to operate
@@kylebetz9684 Hmm.. I was just there for 3 days a couple weeks ago. It went down quite a bit. There were problems with the brakes.
I’m hoping the Twister’s younger brother Possessed doesn’t follow it behind in getting demolished for the supposed shuttle coaster!
They have way to much room where dinosaurs alive was at Dorney for them to remove Possessed
Possessed is actually 2 years older than Wicked Twister. Originally opened at Geauga Lake in 2000. So unfortunately, it would likely get scrapped before Wicked Twister unless they decide to use Wicked Twister for spare parts. Anything is possible! 🤷🏼♂️
If push comes to shove, I can see this park adding the worlds first S&S Axis roller coaster!
Capacity looks horrible on those. It would be cool, but it's gonna take a few rounds of prototyping to get operations right.
I think we'll see someplace in Japan take that chance before US chains really go for it.
@@phoenixshade3 great point indeed
I actually think Kennywood will add the world's first S&S Axis roller coaster.
@@MrSRArter Independent parks are a different animal from chains. I am not sure how much independence Kennywood has now under Parques Reunidos/Palace Entertainment, but under Kennywood Entertainment I could see that as a possibility, too.
S&S 4D Coaster to beat X2, would be an insane ride that would certainly earn a spot in Cedar Point's top 4.
It wouldn’t look very good right next to gatekeeper imo, they look exactly the same
I’ve been saying the same thing!! Especially considering they’re working with S&S (Tumbili). Although, I don’t think it’d fit nor be strategically smart to put right beside Gatekeeper. I’m thinking in the small employee parking lot beside Gemini and take up a little of the water park parking lot, maybe reroute the road too.
nah. x2 is overrated anyway. great rides go beyond expectations, they hit you with something when you don't expect it. x2 you have no control, no expectations. kinda like those free spinning rides.
as a sandusky local and park frequent, i went yesterday and noticed mobile offices right next to WT. my speculation goes in two directions, A) they're there to remove the ride rather than demolish it (likely to be moved to another park) or B) they're surveying the land. a friend noticed some spray painted markings with abbreviations on the ground in the area... potentially a new addition!
Came here to comment about the mobile offices. They'll have a ton of space over there!
Cool
I hope Michigan’s adventure gets it
They really need it!
And repaint it naming it Michigan’s Twister
They never will
Me too, I live in michigan.
That will never happen. Michigan's Adventure does not have a budget to maintain a complicated ride like WT.
My idea is they will remove Wicked Twister and move the stage and seating area that is currently in front of Iron Dragon over to the beach area. This would allow them to use that area as well as the area where they removed the dorms for something new. That stage where it currently sits causes a traffic jam. I don't think they will build a wooden roller coaster right along the beach as that would completely block the park off from the beach and that was one of the reasons they gave for wanting to remove Disaster Transport.
I completely agree about the woodie. I know a lot of old school coaster enthusiasts really like woodies, but there aren't many woodies that don't turn into a chiropractors wet dream after a few years of operation. I liked the 2nd prediction in the vid. I think a flashy light show fits well with the beach theme 9f that area. But I also think your prediction could happen too. Maybe a new coaster won't be going in that area at all.
@@justinschievenin8839 I think Cedar Point does need to add a wooden coaster, but not right at the beach. If they add a moderately sized one from GCI it won't get too rough over time. Their newer ones seem to remain pretty nice. Mystic Timbers is 5 years old and it's still smooth.
Even though they haven't really worked with Mack, it seems to me an ideal spot for a Mack Powersplash with the looping. I mean if they would want to use not a lot of space still have a launch coaster. And it would be the first of it's kind. The Splash would also look great next to the water.
I don’t think CP is gonna add a water coaster
If they do anything from Mack, it's an extreme spinner like Time Traveler at Silver Dollar City.
We as members of the World's of Fun committee would like Cedar Fair to consider giving us Wicked Twister. We don't care if it's a hand me downs or not... we just want a new coaster!
WT would look great at WOF. Considering the prominence of Mamba when viewed from afar, WT's dual spikes would be a nice addition to the skyline.
@@armandconiglio9620 I agree it would look Awesome frfr.
I’m thinking it’s gonna be the cga impulse that got filed for, and it could probs be the record breaking gerstlauer
If they had it planned out a bit, they could have sent Wicked Twister to Kings Dominion rather than putting in the Freespin. Probably would have saved some money, slightly filled in the gap left by Volcano with an inverted launch but with a shuttle rather than a full circuit, and something that actually has some capacity.
They still could do that.
@@michaelking761 they've already started building the freespin and all the track is in the parking lot.
The most straightforward thing would be a Mack Power Splash (or the Intamin rip off.) While a lot of people would be disappointed, the fact is that it's narrow and long and Cedar Point desperately needs to plus up its water rides.
That said, my guess is that they go with the GCI after waiting a few years.
My personal pick would be to add an old boardwalk style dark ride like the Haunted Castle at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk. I'd love to see Cedar Point have a fun dark ride and it would be extremely popular. Plus, Cedar Point is sort of a boardwalk park on steroids so it would fit really well.
At last! Awesome video! I loved wicked twister but it should definitely be at a smaller park.
IDK why I’m thinking this but what if universal studios Orlando could get a ride like Wicked Twister. It is lacking on roller coasters at that park. It would go with the theme of the movie Twister. Probably won’t happen though. It would be a cool addition.
Taylor, with all your knowledge on everything (theme parks, rides, coasters, their manufacturers…the list is endless😁), I absolutely love listening to your perspective and your thought process on this particular subject. It’s not a put-down to other channel’s perspectives. I just REALLY trust your judgment on this. Like I always say (when I comment), I’ve been here from practically the beginning of your RUclips journey and watching you grow and become such an extraordinary young man ( close in age to my son), makes me so happy and proud😊. I just like to comment sometimes and continue to encourage. I know you have a mom for that😀😀, but it’s so wonderful to see someone in the younger generation be so passionate about your goals and truly be able to do what inspires you. Ok, I’m finished😁😁😁. Take care Taylor. Loved the video👏👏.
Thank you so much!
Agreed. This man is awesome and does an excellent job of his production and inpit!! Love 'ya Taylor!!!!
I remember when this opened 😭 got to ride it for the last time, last week!
maybe a nice big spinning coaster? whatever goes in I think the light package is a must. some people think Max Air is on it's way out because it's broken so maybe a redo of the entire area. Giant Wheel could either be moved or 86'd, it's pretty old. they could definitely get rid of that kiddie area. maybe even move the Troika and Tiki Twirl
Conspiracy Theory Coaster Studios Videos are some of my favorites! Love this one!
I would love to see more park improvements unrelated to roller coasters ❤️
I’m glad I got to ride it for the first and last time earlier this year
Wicked twister has a special place in my heart I got ride this ride before anybody else did I was selected to be in the photo shoots and the commercials for the ride so I got to ride it before it open to the public I sat on the ride for about 8 hours in one day doing all the photo shoots and commercials
The Wick Twister Dangling Coaster was too powerful.
i love dangling coasters
I loved this ride, so it would be wonderful to see it relocated especially if it's somewhere I can visit!
I would be absolutely stunned if cedar point put up a wooden coaster in this plot of land. Their whole thing about that part of the park for the last few years has been to “open back up the view of the beach”, and while it would be nostalgic to have a wooden coaster there like in the past, what I personally think they should do is construct some sort of pier that goes out onto Lake Erie. You could end up moving the wheel out there, a bunch of midway games maybe another smaller ride and then thereafter use the space that wicked twister, the wheel, and the stadium occupied to throw in a Gerstlauer record breaking coaster.
The other issue with a modern woodie is that KI has a relatively new one in mystic timber’s and it’s kind counter intuitive for them to put two new woodies so close to each other. Also an infinity coaster is semi similar to valravn which is also kinda new. I don’t think this will keep cp from installing either model, but it’s something they’re definitely thinking about.
I'm betting they build out that boardwalk/pier into the lake that's been floating around as an idea for a decade, and then they can put a classic style woodie out on that.
While I was saying for the last 3 or so years that Wicked Twister was next on the chopping block, it certainly came as a surprise that it was closing this early. I thought it still had a couple years left in the tank, but I guess not.
First things first, Wicked Twister can't go to michigans adventure, they have a height limit :( but also MaxAir has been closed all year so they may potentially remove that as well. It failed inspection and has huge maintenance costs.
Maxair??? The last giant huss pendulum ride...makes sense
@@billchief397 it has literally no significance whatsoever
What has huge maintenance costs? MaxAir has not operated at all this season, yet Delirium at Kings Island has. It had something to do with a motor on MaxAir.
@@timothykaczmarek5871 That ride model is notorious for problems, the one at Six Flags St.Louis hasn't operated in many years. They're all around terrible.
@@Kandyn Then why is the Delirium at Kings Island running well, and it is the same Huss model at Cedar Point?
One coaster that I feel is definitely missing from this park is a B&M flying coaster. I don't see how you could pass up an opportunity to get some incredible bird's eye views of the beachfront as you're soaring right next to it!
Yeah I think Cedar Point needs a flying coaster since Firehawk was removed.
I mean, Windseeker already gives riders beachfront views while soaring, so...
It has the highest chance of it going to CGA, they have the plot of land in which the shuttle loop once stood. FireFall was also removed as well. It’ll bring back another launched coaster to the park. Yeah there’s another impulse nearby with Flash Vertical Velocity at Discovery Kingdom, but honestly, people would see Wicked as the superior one so it’ll definitely work out. And plus, it’s in the masterplans and in the picture they use Wicked as an example. So all signs does point to CGA. Time will tell.
It's highly possible it's going to end up a CGA in that exact area we do need a launch coaster and it's in the master plan wouldn't that be something if they name it tidal wave as a tribute to the old coaster
Having Great America as my nearest major theme park, being from Santa Cruz, I really hope we get Wicked Twister, rename it Tidal Wave 2.0.
@@zacharyyamashita8554 I said the same thing lol name it the tidal wave as a tribute too the old shuttle Loop
I think it's going to go to CGA since an Impulse Coaster is in their 20 year plan
I'm going to CGA Friday I'm going to see if there's any markers anywhere especially near the tidal wave area
Yeah probably.
Only rode it cause there wasn’t a line when I was there many years ago. Thought it looked stupid. It was amazing.
8:35 I wish it wasn't that 2nd option
Long stery....
I'm 38, and have always been obsessed with coasters, but the term "enthusiast" was never something in my vocab until recently. In 2005 I spent a summer working in Detroit and saw ads for TFD at CP...this was well before YT. I grew up in SoCal so SFMM was the standard for me. That said, I HAD TO go to CP to ride TFD. I did, and it was EMPTY...MF was outstanding, TFD was incredible...but something about WT really stood out to me! Nowadays I am much much versed in coaster culture and know that WT is pretty "meh" but to me it is still a great ride! Similar to Montezumas Revenge, not super special, but....a solid ride!
Thinking about the additions since steel vengeance, they've been mostly family related I think. So I could see them revamping this area with a more functional stage to replace the awkward one by Iron Dragon
General park improvements leads me to think that it will be more boardwalk and beach theme than a record breaking coaster. They still haven't done anything to the old Cedar Dorms and Wildcat area really and that is a much bigger plot to work with.
after riding mean streak or cork screw I always went to wicked twister to get my back popped back in place.
We’ll find out starting after Sept. 6 if WT is being relocated. Pay attention to how they remove it. Are they tearing it apart, or are they taking it apart piece by piece?
There are two large trailers at the ride site already as of August 29th.
6:39 a gravity group with 4 inversions, breaking the record for most inversions on a wooden roller coaster
I like the idea of sending Wicked Twister to Michigan's Adventure. I agree that either the GCI or Gerstlauer would be a good fit here. If they go for the larger plot, then I'd prefer the GCI, which would end up being an L shaped out and back layout. It could pay homage in some way to the early days of Cedar Point. My only issue is I think it would block the view of the lake. If they go with the smaller plot, then a Gerstlauer would be more compact, especially if it has a vertical lift hill. Breaking the inversion record would be good, but isn't necessarily needed.
I honestly hope they go for either a Gerstlauer Infinity or an RMC Raptor/T-Rex. My reasons why:
A Gerstlauer Infinity would mostly be an excellent addition to the park because Cedar Point has a great track record of record breakers, being home to the world’s first ever Hyper Coaster Magnum XL-200 reaching over 200 feet, the world’s first ever Giga Millennium Force at over 300 feet, and the first ever Strata Top Thrill Dragster at over 400 feet. With a Gerstlauer Infinity, they could break a new world record with most inversions, possibly 15 or more, and maybe introduce new inverting elements as well as add in some rarely found ones.
An RMC Raptor/T-Rex would be another good option, seeing as how RMC is the most well-respected manufacturer in the amusement industry. A Raptor would be an excellent addition to the park, although I am leaning a bit towards a T-Rex model, since one has yet to be built. They could make it the tallest single-rail coaster to be built (Jersey Devil at Six Flags Great Adventure is currently the tallest at 130 ft.) and draw in a bunch of crowds. Maybe draw in even more by making it a T-Rex model, because as I said before, one has yet to be built.
First ever dueling Impulse coaster coming to Dorney! 😄
finally ive been waiting for a wicked twister vid from taylor
RIP wicked twister.
I got to ride it once when I was 9. I loved it.
I say send it to either Knotts or CGA. Yeah, I know parks like Worlds of Fun, Valleyfair, and especially Michigan's Adventure could really use this ride, but CGA and Knotts actually have a lot of potential. (In terms of being a stand-out Cedar Fair park, that is.)
Excited to see what comes
I’d love to see a woodie like Twister at Gröna Lund in Sweden, the one that’s inspired by Lost Coaster of Superstition Mountain and has really sharp turns and drops so it fits in a tight space. Heck, maybe a taller and better version of LoCoSuMo itself if that’s even possible.
Twister is crazy not only for the small footprint, but also the two preexisting coasters that travel through that space. I really have to plan a Scandinavia trip one day. Tusenfryd, Gröna Lund, and Kolmården are all on my list.
Oh, and from now on, I will always think of a crazy, fat Japanese wrestler when I think of Indiana Beach... so, umm... Thanks?
They can obviously do what they want, but I think a beyond vertical drop would overshadow Valravn in the minds of the GP, so I would guess that if they got an infinity coster they would make it a launch instead.
In a normal park this is true but at cedar point they literally have ‘everything’ as long as a beyond vertical drop didn’t have the holding brake like a b&m dive I can see them building one.
They aren’t sending the ride anywhere. It’s a maintenance nightmare, it uses 3000kwh of electricity per cycle so it’s really expensive to operate. They were thinking to replace it with an S&S 4D Spin coaster but management is concerned about ride capacity so they’re testing this kind of ride at Kings Dominion next season.
Please no
I rode it twice at the end of July, not knowing it would be closing for good 😢. I hope they can save this ride as there aren’t many impulse coasters left out there
I wish I could’ve ridden wicked twister more but after about 16/17 years old my shoulders were too big for the restraints
Just because of the space available: throwing in a Mack Power Splash. Upgrading what they had. For the record they could go for the first one with a looping as that concept was presented by Mack already. Looks like it also could fit the "beach feeling"
Yeah, not my favorite coaster at CP, but I'll definitely miss the way the ride ops had fun with the timing of the launch:
"Launching in 3...2...(LAUNCH)."
I can feel the burst and rush of the ride as I read that. That feeling never goes away. My top favorite rides is now gone, so sad. My hands and feet were always up.
Would be crazy if they built a pier and put a coaster on it.
Too bad they can’t touch the lake
Been waiting for this prediction video! Can’t wait to see what they put in!
for this being my home park, i ain’t sad to see this go, but i really wanna see a vertical lift coaster or something because i’ve never got to ride one
Just the video I was looking for. Thanks Taylor!
After looking at the google map picture.. Hmm single rail ride? that fits there.. Not a huge capacity but it does work!
I never got on it oh well. But it looked as fun as I thought it would be. I am now can't go its not open today and tomorrow on may 7 I am going to cedar point for fun and really enjoyed this I made a friend IN CEDAR POINT.
It was ok. Nothing special. You didn't really miss anything. The launch was the best part.
i just road wicked twister it ran smoother then half the rides there and it was so fun
why is it that when i visit a new cedar fair park they always remove a roller coaster a bit after. First with kings island and vortex now this.
That plot of land is perfect for a modern recreation of the Crystal Beach Cyclone. The price tag wouldn't be huge, RMC box track or GCI Titan track would make it smooth and safe, and the setting on Lake Erie is appropriate. There wouldn't be any records broken, unless attendance counts.
Imagine it ends up being a giga Larson Loop or something stupid lol.
M8 if we get a giga Larson loop I’m counting it as a credit😂
Lol 🤣
If Michigan’s Adventure gets Wicked Twister somehow I will never question Cedar Fair for anything they do
Nah give it to valley or Dorney double impulse 😻
Michingans Adventure is still waiting for its new trash can let alone a new roller coaster :)
I think CP could also really use an indoor coaster. That’s been a gap in their lineup since Disaster Transport was taken out. Especially location wise where they get a lot of rain frequently they could really use an indoor attraction for people to flock to. They could definitely break a record for indoor coasters easily.
I think they could try the new single rail designs :)
Went to Cedar Point for the first time ever this summer, heard about wicked twister going away, and decided why not. I had one ride on wicked twister, and the ride stalled and we got stuck on it. It was fun before that part though
I think it would be fantastic if they added a beachfront boardwalk with a gci stretching out over the lake. I’m sure that wouldn’t be cheap though.
My guesses:
A Mack PowerSplash paired up with a Mack Twist 'n' Splash
A recording-breaking Guerstlauer Infinity with both the most inversions and the steepest drop
A Mack Xtreme Spinner
A boardwalk style (yet alot more thrilling than Blue Streak) CGI wooden coaster
An S&S 4D Freespin (These are good for smaller parks but I'm personally hoping it's not this for Cedar Point.)
There’s a really infamous wooden coaster model called the cyclone safety coaster. I would love to see gravity group re-create that layout to where it’s actually as safe as the name will make you think
Honestly, what about a Mack PowerSplash, or even the first Mack PowerLoop? That would be quite dope and would fit in without having to work with too much land
Hoping they send this to WOF! I would only have to 3 hours to ride a roller coaster that I have always wanted to go on!
Maybe they will replace the wicked twister plot with
a coaster type we don’t know about yet.
Worlds first standing upside down coaster. Your feet are up, and your head is down, and when you invert, you are right side up.
Or you know, not that
I always made coasters that did this in theme park tycoon😂 when it inverts it’s the one time you get a breather XD
@@micoledupicolegaming5444 cool
I bet it gets relocated. Michigan's Adventure, Valleyfair, or Worlds of Fun would be perfect. They could even sell it to a smaller independent park like Lagoon, Elitch Gardens, or Holiday World. It doesn't take up much space and would instantly become a headliner attraction at any of those parks.
A white GCI wooden rollercoaster by the beach and rumored pier would be nice
i would guess... a triple launch gerstlauer infinity (like gold rush at slagharen but over 200 feet) with the inversion record.
Bruh way too little space for that
I honestly think a spinning coaster would make more sense
well if they would remove something, i forgot to tell it's more a thoosie dream than anything
@@waddles1129 I heard max air will be gone as well
A spining coaster would make more sense in that area
An Xtreme spinner that is haha
This is where the 16 inversion Gertslauer Infinity coaster is going in late 2022
7:58 pause it here
Rather than a GCI, I think a Gravitykraft woodie makes more sense for this spot, something like a supersized Mine Blower. Those can be made ultra compact while GCIs tend to be more sprawling, and it would be much easier for Cedar Point to break a record with that type of ride. I also doubt an Infinity at Cedar Point...HangTime's theoretical capacity is less than Wicked Twister's was, and even with outstanding Cedar Point operations such a ride would struggle.
As for where Wicked Twister is going, my bet would be Worlds of Fun if it stays in the chain, but I think it's more likely that Cedar Fair sells it outside the chain. I doubt it would get scrapped completely as it's not that old and could be refurbished and installed at a smaller park.
I think there is a very small possibility that cedar point could get the worlds tallest and possibly longest S&S Free Fly coaster. I have a hunch about this only because there is Tumbili that is coming to Kings Dominion which is also a cedar fair park. That was for a ride that was also in a compact part of land. They could put the queue where that stadium was before. Obviously capacity would be a problem with that but it could be a decent fit if they want to save money and find a compact ride for the space. Cedar Fair also doesn't have a free fly coaster in their lineup yet. Would be the first one in the ohio area too.
Cedar Point still has 3 wood coasters, Blue Streak, Steel Vengeance, and Gemini! 😄 haha for that reason I think the Gerstlauer is more likely, GP would get more of a unique ride experience with that vs a modern woodie, vertical lift, world's steepest beyond vertical drop, inversion focused - plus it has potential to be more compact for that space. I think the GCI makes more sense in that potential plot over by Maverick. But I thought for a while the Gerstlauer would cross perimeter road to the monster truck area, so who knows
Good point, to the GP Steel Vengeance, Gemini, and Cedar Creek Mine Ride are wood coasters!
@@timk987 ahh yes, I forgot about Cedar Creek Mine Ride!
A wildcard prediction: a Premier Skyrocket II would fit there.
A silly prediction: a Vekoma SLC with the original head restraints.
A WTF prediction: a joint effort between TOGO and RCCA to construct an SLC with VR and volare-style trains.
I would even ride this, just because how ridiculus it would be
A 1-in-1-million prediction: S&S axis
a skyrocket 2 would be nice or a flyer around the park named constellation with the cedar fair font flag dotted eye to show the amount of coasters they could get and that it might be the last one since the next ones will go around the park
If they’d put in a wooden coaster, something like El Toro at Great Adventure would make the crowds at Cedar Point happy.
Wicked twister was my first coaster at ceader point
Send it to Long Island’s Adventureland. They can use a big ride to bring in crowds. Turbulence isn’t gonna be enough to carry the park much longer.
What do you think of a skyrocket 2, it would fit perfectly in the narrow space and it would look so good at the beech.
I think perdonally that the biggest gaps in cedar points line up are: a flyer coaster, some sort of gertslauer, and a good modern woodie.
Wish I could've ridden this. But great video!
I got my first/last rides on it 2 days ago, very front and very back. Was pretty fun, but it had no line, so I see why it's being removed.
I really liked this ride - I’ll miss it!