I am so excited about this! Oh my gosh! Yay! Congratulations! 😊We aligned with perfect timing, I posted a Hoya care video today! 💚I'm elated that you had such success, thanks so much for sharing. WOO HOO!
Thank you for the information, I'm trying to get up the nerve to try it with Hoya platycaulis, which is supposed to be one of the most difficult of all Hoya to root.
Doug so fantastic when I viewed this I purchased a few second hand Aerogarden’s. They root like crazy and what I’ve found now is that my home rooted slips grow into a healthier plant more leaves just more abundant hands down. Thanks again to you and your fabulous work with these so rewarding plants. Grow on Doug!!🌿🌿
Thank you so much for the kind words Bev! Aerogardens work fantastic for rooting Hoyas. I used one once to grow a bunch of Hoya serpens, but forgot all about them. Thanks for bringing them to my attention again! Take care, Doug
Wow what a miracle everything were rooted amazing for 20 days yes in deed very exciting thank you 🙏 for sharing your water 💦 propagation congratulations 🎊 very successful watching from California enjoy it ❤️
I bought some cuttings on eBay last year and they all rooted quickly in water. Glad you tried it since you wanted that one to propagate and it just didn't want to cooperate😀❤💞
Holy smokes! Thanks for posting this video, very interesting. I've never thought about rooting Hoya in water before but this makes me want to give it a try. Thx!
Hey, I’ve done this too! Just a Hoya carnosa and each stem I popped in the water has started to root! I just used tap water with a tiny splash of seasol and powerfeed! It is just so exciting! I’m envious of your peduncles though, I’d be so excited if they developed.... but roots are all I need!
Yes, you have to give it a try Lynda. I used to root spider plants in water as a kid, but gave up on that method about 40 years ago. I guess it was time to give it another go.
This is so interesting to me! I have only ever rooted hoyas in water. I gave my mother a cutting of hoya wayettii and it's done quite well growing a bunch of roots. It'll be ready to plant soon. But I love that peduncle that formed!!! Beautiful!
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas I think it's been just good luck. We have had a family hoya going back 5 generations and propagated multiple cuttings that way so I didn't really know anything about rooting hormone or perlite or any other methods of rooting cuttings until i started accumulating more different types of hoya. I'm up to 11...I've relied quite a bit on your site to find plants that will be a good fit as I also live in the northeast (central CT) and it's been invaluable to read about plants that are more tolerant of our weather conditions and seasonal daylight.
@@kristinlopez3123 I'm so happy that you have found useful information on my website Kristin. 11 Hoyas is a very nice and manageable collection; I wish you happy holidays and the best growing in the upcoming new year!
love the video❤. I tried to root 2 hoya cuttings in moss and perlite nothing happened but in water 😲WTH. I'm speechless as well. After an ample amount of time for the roots to grow a bit more, I will plant them in Pon which I never tried before.
A lot of people love Pon, and it works well for rooting, but I have had no luck at all growing Hoyas in it long-term. I always end up with root rot. I guess that I just don't use it properly, but I have no desire to try it again.
Hey Hey Hey this is awesome! I'm so glad it worked. Now the next test is to see how they deal with being potted up. You responded to my comment on your other video about water roots vs soil roots. When I pot mine up I soak the soil first and then fluff it up before adding the rooted cuttings. Someone told me to do this because the roots are more delicate and if you water after you plant it they can suffocate. Not sure if that's true.
Good advice Frances, I did make sure that the soil that I put them into was fairly wet, because it makes sense that coming from pure water, they are not going to like drying out right away. So far the plants in soil look great.
I’m so so so glad to see this 👏👏👏. I have large Obovata cuttings in water right now and this gives me hope! It’s been 14 days. I don’t have the KLN or a heat mat or a grow tent. They are just hanging out. Yikes! Tick tock, tick tock ...
Great news. Always good to learn something new about our plants. I have a hoya that I got as a starting and already potted plant from my Mom. I had it for 4 or 5 years with no blooms. My Mom suggested I should put it out in full sun, which I did and almost killed it. Lost all leaves and most of its runners. Brought it back in, nursed it back to health and 15, YES FIFTEEN years later it finally bloomed for me last year. And again this year. ????? What happened! I lived in Sherman, Texas first and later moved back near Houston, but still took another 5 years after I moved to Houston. Why?
Wow, 15 years to wait for a bloom that takes more patience that I have! That is what I love about Hoyas; they never cease to surprise! Thanks for the great comment Brenda!
wow!!! i have a hoya bella cutting which is why stumbled upon this - doing research on best methods for rooting, thanks for this, hopefully i'll have the same luck :)
Oh wow! I've always been opposed to rooting in water because of transitioning the roots to soil, but now you've got me rethinking rooting Hoyas, too. Does it matter if it's a fresh cutting or is it fine if the end has calloused? A good future experiment might be to see if the rooting hormone that you put in the water makes a difference in root formation or not, too. I'm going to put one of my struggling H. curtisii cuttings in water now and see what it does. I received ~8 curtisii cuttings a few months back and only the smallest cutting with four leaves rooted, 3 cuttings are slowly shriveling up, and the rest have withered away. H. curtisii is a pain to root for me, so I'm hoping that I have the success that you have had here. I'm also having problems rooting Dischidia sp. Geri, and I recently got newer cuttings of it after killing most of my first go around with D. Geri. If my second attempt at rooting Geri starts to go downhill, I might shove it in water, too. As always, thanks for the great video, Doug!
Thank you Kyla! These cuttings were extremely fresh, but I'm thinking that it would work just as well with a calloused one. I'm also thinking that curtisii would root very well using water.
Doug my Griffithii was starting to tap out, I cut slips from a weak failing plant, EVERY slip rooted like a beast!! This plant did not transition well from the nursery, I suspected poor roots to begin with. So glad to have it grow again. Love the flowers on griffithii🌿🌿🌿
Hi Doug, this was really fun and interesting to see! I have never tried it but definitely will melt some snow tomorrow and get some cuttings and go for it... I have had good success putting cuttings in mostly good orchid sphagnum moss. Some I cut and pin into moss, one broken vine I found under the couch, all withered and dried up....even that one was saved by the moss. I just try to keep it moist until I know they are not only rooted but growing independently. I tried moss with Hoyas after seeing your video on the subject. Some absolutely love it while others faltered and failed in moss. Hoya krohniana 'eskimo' loves it in moss! Thanks for the great video! Cara
Very good information Cara! Your findings mirrored my own with some Hoyas loving the moss and others hating it. They all did however root well in moss, but it is after a few months that you really find out the truth. I am still using this water method every week and have yet to have it not work for me. Good luck with your water rooting!
I'm Sooo happy to have found your site. I love your highlighted reply's. Have a ? that I've been unable to get an answer for. My 1st hoya was in the 70's & lost in transit. A client gave me a cutting of Obovata about 6years ago, rooted in H2o Planted, have had flowers for about3-4 years .It need to be transplanted (roots out the bottom) The stems all have roots on them so I could cut any where. The problem is the Peduncle's!!! Say, 1ft long 2nodes & leaves at growing end, roots all along stem, then a peduncle in the middle of nowhere! Can I cut before & after the peduncle? Need to leave the " ped" attached? I've propagated this plant many times but where do I cut this ft. long? Will it, can it kill the peduncle? Help Kat
Hi Kat, It sounds like you have a tremendously healthy Hoya obovata! Generally speaking if you leave a peduncle on a cutting, you will end up with flowers on the new plant much quicker. You do not need to leave the peduncle attached if you do not want to either. It should do fine which ever way you decide to proceed.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas Thank You so much! I've been vacillating with this for ages. Seams like it's done blooming for now, so I'll give here a trim...I now have a hoya guru! & thanks for the swift reply, now I can sleep Kat
Good question, these jars of water live in my humid grow tents so the temperatures are 78-85 degrees F during the day and can fall as low as 62 degrees F at night. I have not experimented with windowsill rooting, but many people tell me they are successful with it.
could I find out where you purchased the brackets that are holding a pipe (maybe pvc?) in one of your pictures and plants are hanging from it would be so perfect in front of my porch windows but I cannot find brackets like that. would so appreciate the info. thanks
Hi Mary, I can't seem to find a link to these brackets to give you. I think that they were purchased at Lowes about seven years ago. They really are not anything special the rod that I have attached to them is a heavy painted steel rod bought also at Lowes in their closet shelving department. I wish I had more for you to go on.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas Thank you for replying. They were so unusual - black and mounted above the window frame with an unusual shape. Guess I will just have to figure something else out. Will be viewing your other videos in future. Only have two hoyas at this time but will definitely be acquiring more as soon as the weather gets warmer. Thank you again.
I had just now put 3 Hoya cuttings in water. Then decided to check if it would work. Yours was the first video I checked. Just added the rooting hormone. My plan is to combine these cuttings back w the original plant which is lopsided and make an even bigger Hoya plant. I’ll pot this in a slightly bigger pot. Have you ever tried spraying your Hoyas with miracle gro orchid spray? My obovata was doing nothing for months so I tried this from a video comment and it immediately started a leaf bud. All my Hoyas are growing. I spray them every few days. I think this would be another great experiment to try.
Beautiful results! I couldn't believe it when I my hoya leaf rooted in water so quickly. I have one of my Thai hoyas that is still alive but it doesn't look very good so I thought may be cut the stem and put it in water to root, what do you think? May be I can save it this way??
It is probably a fungus of some sort. The only fungus that I have ever had a problem with is sooty mold, which wipes off. I would try to grow your new plant out, and if the new growth is unaffected, then keep the plant, if the new growth under your conditions has the same spots then I would throw out the plant.
I love propagation! I have a Hoya bella that I could only root in water. The hoya engleriana vietnam is a beautiful plant and I hope I can get my hands on it one day.
As a general rule, I know that the sooner you transfer the cutting to a potting mix, the sooner it will adapt. However, if you decide to pot them immediately after roots appear, would those roots perform better in potting mix, hydroponic or semi-hydroponic?
Your guess is probably as good as mine. I’ve never tried full on hydroponics but I would imagine it would be too wet for most Hoyas. Semi-hydro would probably Be the quickest, but I find that most things grow in that way fail within a year.
Good to know! I find that the quality of the water and a couple drops of fertilizer can make a huge difference in success with water rooting. I just tried an experiment using old rainwater on a bunch of H. bella cuttings and they completely rotted. When I tried the same thing using new Reverse Osmosis water, I had 100% success.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas You said one can use distilled water too right? What is reverse osmosis water actually ? Is this water you get filtered form you fridge for instance or? Sorry to sound so dumb....Lol...
@@laurencelhoest9420 The only dumb question is the one not asked. Reverse osmosis water is water that is forced through a filter so fine that it removes all the hardness and impurities. It is a special unit that takes a fair amount of water pressure to push water through this filter. Here is the one that I use: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UX48KW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Distilled water would be very close to RO water and would work fine.
Wow! Thanks so much...I had been very hesitant to water root too. One of the things I had been strongly warned about was the shock on the new water roots adapting to potting media and becoming “soil” roots... I would be very interested to know how your newly water rooted cuttings adapt and if they are set back at all. I’m currently using a rooting media of perlite and vermiculite with good success...I’m thinking that adding the rooting concentrate to that with a humidity dome of some kind would increase my results ... all such good information! Thanks so much, and thanks to Betsy Begonia for spurring you on...yay teamwork!
Your're welcome Robert! I had the same concerns about water roots adapting to soil as you did, but so far the plants that I moved over to soil look just as good as they did in water and the peduncle and buds that developed on the white bella is still growing!
That's awesome.I'm going to do the same and see if it work for me.recently I got some more Hoya verity's and I wants to make more of all Hoya family.thanks for sharing.
I believe that it is not only safe, but it is preferable at this time of year. I just this morning put a jar of cuttings I'm hoping to root in a jar of water on top of a heat mat. I did this because I'm finding that the cold is really slowing down my rooting.
I've had a Hoya for a couple years I think it's a crimson princess. It was in a hanging basket at Lowe's and it's now huge. It's never bloomed I guess because last year I took cuttings I may be cut off the part that would have bloomed. I didn't know any better and the cuttings that I took just sat during the winter in water and had so many roots last spring I planted the cute little guys four five of them in smaller pots. So I guess I should have been surprised that they rooted in water. And as soon as I planted them in media they were gung ho and doing great. They're still doing great! The water I use with straight out of the tap chlorine fluoride whatever else was in there I never have any trouble routing my plants in tap water. They also didn't have a plastic bag or a grow tent they were just sitting on my bedroom on the bookcase. I do have high humidity in the winter in my home so that may have helped because of my other plants
I use the microphone on my cell phone keyboard to make my comments and I can't believe it didn't put Hoya in that first sentence it said whole you !!!! I've seen it try to write so many different words instead of Hoya I think if I say it slow it makes it into two words the microphone that is. And since I'm talking to the microphone and dictating on my cell phone a lot of times I forget to edit before I push the send button
Hi Doug, are you heating these from the bottom? How many hours of light per day (sun light, grow lights or both)? And what’s the room temp? Thank you so much!
Good question Samantha.these are not being heated from the bottom, but they are kept with other plants in a warm humid grow tent under a combination of LED and fluorescent light sources. The temps vary from a high of 85 degrees during the day to a low of 62 degrees at night. If these were put on a cold windowsill, it probably would not work nearly so well.
Wow! Lots! :) My hoya got dried out :( We forgot to water it ... and the leaves are quite dry and wrinkly. Should I take it out of the pot and put the roots in water for a couple of weeks? I put the whole pot in a pail of water, and misted the leaves. What should I do? thanks! This is semi desert here.
If your Hoya got that dried out, you may have to restart it from cuttings. First see if the leaves plump back up and the plant seems to recover some of its vigor. If not, just take cuttings, root them in water and simply restart it.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas ok, thank you. Well I put the whole pot in a bucket of water n it was doing well, after a week, so I put it outside but it didn’t seem to like that so I ha e it back in the water . I guess it’ll take a couple of weeks eh?
What I do, and have been successful with with the few hoyas I have, is a hybrid approach. Plant cuttings in LECA in a semi-hydro setup, but don't water it just to fill the reservoir. Instead, fill it all the way up to the level where the tip of the cutting is submerged. By the time the water evaporates, you should have a rooted plant in an SH pot. This also helps avoid damage to the frail young roots, as you skip transitioning from a rooting medium to the final pot altogether.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas if you haven't come across it, you may wanna checkout Paul The Plant Parent's ongoing experiment with transferring using acrylic yarn as a medium: ruclips.net/channel/UCJy5MfHd7eHOMRRqpCw8jSg
Grow tents come in all different sizes; here is an example: www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01DXYMQ9M/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=DLD85heSkgI-sv4DvTwYOg&hsa_cr_id=1617889370601&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0
It could be as I have never tried rooting in water without it. Bella definitely roots well in water as I just barely rooted several strands of one and I got strong water roots in 3-4 weeks. It might be worth trying to find a small bottle of KLN Concentrate. A small bottle will last for years as you only need a couple of drops in a glass of water.
One week ago I put a cutting of Hoya Pubicalyx in soil specially mixed for seedlings/cuttings. I've just noticed its only two leaves have dropped which led me to your video here. Now I've removed it from the soil and put it in Brita water. My question is this - without the leaves, will it root?
Good question Adrian, I think it might depend on the Hoya. On the ones that I rooted they seemed to sprout roots on the bottom cut and on the node. I think if you have enough vine it would always be safer to keep a node under water, but if you don't have enough vine just keeping the cut section under water could very well be enough to get roots.
I will give it a try and see if it works. I hope they do, since I just got 6 short cuts from my sister and Hoya is pretty hard to find from my experience here in Berlin, Germany. Thank you for your help and a happy new year!
@@rosalimat I'm sure that it is fine, and that is what I water 90 percent of my Hoyas with and have no problems. I only used the RO water, because I had it. I also use RO (reverse osmosis) water for very sensitive plants that are not doing well for some reason with my regular tap water.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas amazing. I am definitely going to try this technique, especially since my city is always sunny. Thank you for this clip and for your prompt response. 🙏🏼
This gives me hope, ive tried rooting a few with RO water which is the only thing I use and sometimes it takes FOREVER! Like months, however I've never tried using KLN, which I have.. :) oh and everytime I use rooting hormone powder the cuttings do not do very well, they do better without the powder, so I wonder if the liquid is the way to go. :)
I have pretty darned good luck with the KLN; make sure that the area you root in is warm as when it is cold, it can take forever to get them to root in water.
I know this is old so I’m curious how you feel about water rooting these days? I always wait for all my water roots to gets secondary roots. I would have given the Bella another few weeks. I was cracking up at your reactions. I root almost all Hoya in water these days! ❤️
Quite frankly I water root very few Hoyas these days. I pretty much only use it on Hoyas that have gone limp because of rotted roots; When they plump up nicely, then I root them in a warm, humid prop box and mostly use moist coconut husk chips as a media. I am successful 95% of the time with this method. I still will water root the All White Bella, and linearis, and a couple of others, but that is about it. I still believe in the method, and think that most Hoyas benefit from a week in the water, but it slows me down a little bit by taking the time.
I rooted a bunch of variegated Hoya kerrii last summer, and it rooted very quickly in regular damp Hoya potting mix in a very warm and humid homemade propagation box. I used a heat mat to keep it really warm, and it sat under grow lights. The boxes can be seen here: ruclips.net/video/zRe9ArWpuIc/видео.html
I've never had a Hoya plant before I found a woman giving away cuttings on Craigslist. I took them home and thought I would give it a try. One I just stuck in potting soil and I mist it with tap water once a week. The second one I have in a glass of tap water and after 3 weeks that is rooting beautifully. The one that I have in dirt I really didn't think that was going to make it I just thought I would try it and what do you know. I pulled some of the stems up just out of curiosity and they have Roots also. Now it's just exciting to see what's going to happen every few days. I didn't even use rooting hormone on these.
Thanks Dawn for detailing your experiences with rooting. I'm always a little suspect of some of these rooting hormones as well. I really almost never use them, and have noticed no difference.
Someone gave me a hoya cutting a litte over a year ago. I have no idea what kind of Hoya it is. He just told me to stick it in some soil and it should be okay. At that time I didn't know a single thing about plants except for the fact that every time I got one it died. I thought this plant would too but it's been over a year and not a single leaf has died. I stuck the cutting in a huge pot with potting soil. After watching your videos and some others and reading up on your website I realized that I shouldn't have put it in a large pot 1 and 2 I shouldn't use just regular potting soil. But it seems to be doing fine. Do you think I should repot it with a different mix? And into a smaller pot? Also, I am going to try my hand at another plant. I just ordered 2 types of dischidia. A nummularia and a ruscifolia. Can they both be put in sphagnum moss? Thank you.
Hi Dawwnnyy, You have had the plant for over a year and no leaves have died, but do you have much new growth? If you do, I would probably just leave it alone. If the plant has not grown much or at all, I would pull it out of the large pot rinse off the old soil and repot into a smaller pot. As far as soil, I would just use regular peat-based potting soil mixed with about 25% perlite. As far as your Dischidia I would use pure sphagnum as I have a ruscifolia that is over five feet long grown that way, and I've never had a Dischidia that hasn't grown really well in moss.
Doug, I just got a Hoya latifolia cutting, do you think I should do water propagation method? And if I have rooting powder, how much should I add to a cup of water?
I have not used rooting powder in water, and I just have a gut feeling that it might not be the way to go. If you use the water method, which I think would work well, I would use water alone, or with a drop of what I used, K-L-N rooting concentrate which is a liquid.
@@nataliearonson5669 Fingers crossed for you. Hoya latifolia is not a hard plant to root, but it will only grow with very good humidity. So after it is rooted get it outside for the summer.
I am propagating some Hoyas in water currently. I bought them online and they are now starting to grow longer roots, but it took a long time. Mine didn’t have roots at 20 days.
Hi Emmy, I think it is also heavily dependent on the conditions under which they are rooted. My plants are being rooted in water, but they are also in 80-85 degrees with very high humidity, which probably greatly sped up the rooting process. I also just found my first Hoya giving me a problem with rooting in water and that is Hoya deykei.
Hi Mary, while I have never done it, many people say that they have; so it is worth a try. My problem is that if they grew well, they would be difficult to trellis or hang. The containers would not be able to be clear, or they would fill up with algae in short order.
The large leaf Hoya near the end of the video is obtusifolia, and it came from a Hoya acquaintance in Florida. It is a maddening plant that won't flower except under very exacting circumstances. Here is a video of it: ruclips.net/video/KRJA-H_YztE/видео.html
You're welcome mate! Not only does it work fast, but it works on otherwise nearly impossible to root Hoyas like H. platycaulis, which is showing small roots after only 10 days.
I showed an update near the end of this video: ruclips.net/video/l-k95ePXZRg/видео.html Also, I continue to root in water and have now tried it with at least 25 different species, and there is not one that has not made the transition over to soil.
Hi Doug, thank you for that very informative video! I'm into my first hoya rooting - I'm trying it in water, you convinced me! Do I have to take the bottom leaves off, or can I put them in water? My cuttings have 3-4 nodes in total, it is breaking my heart to think that I have to take away precious leaves! I have cuttings of hoya mathilde, a ciliata and a brevialata to root. Thank you in advance for your answer!
Ideally you would not want the leaves under water so I usually take them off. If you have enough stem to at least get the bottom of the stem in water and can rig up something to hold your cutting in your jar so it doesn't fall out, you may not need to take any leaves off. Maybe use some wire or an old coat hanger to clip your cutting to. Put the cutting in so that the first set of leaves are just above the water, but not submerged.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas that's a great idea. Tying it to a wire or maybe even a bamboo stick but a wire wouldn't add anything to the water that might harm the plant. My grandmother used to grow African violet leaves and baby food jars with aluminum foil covering the baby food jar she poked a hole in the aluminum foil and it held the leaf up. I tried it to root pepperoni mm cuttings in the microphone on my cell phone keyboard doesn't know how to spell the plants name that thinks I'm talking about the meat to put on pizza! Teehee anyhow that might work especially with the wire that could keep it in the middle of the glass instead of sitting on the edge. Great experiment and by the way I heard you on the podcast the ledge talking about the three different Hoyas so great job she should have had you for the whole show and I can't find her other show that she said you were on...
@@kathleenmurphy2379 Hi Kathleen, I use aluminum foil on the glass of water quite often to root thin stemmed Hoyas like linearis that would fall over otherwise. Here is the link to my On The Ledge episode: www.janeperrone.com/on-the-ledge/2019/2/1/episode-82-growing-hoyas-aka-the-wax-plant
Wow, a little bud from a cutting! Very cool! I'm going to try this with my Hoyas. Since you made this video, have you tried water propagating Hoyas without rooting hormone? I've water propagated other houseplant cuttings without any rooting liquid and was wondering if you have to use it for Hoyas?
I have tried without rooting hormone and it works out too. I have discovered though that water rooting now only works well for me if the temperatures are quite warm. I now use a heating mat under the jar in the winter and get much better results.
Hello Doug, I just found your channel. Awesome videos! Thank you for sharing. I just have one question regarding hoya pollination. I never saw a video of someone pollinating hoya blooms. Is it difficult to hand pollinate them? I would love to grow some hoyas from seed, so I was thinking about crosspollinating mine. Thank you! :)
Hi Nami, I'm glad that you found my channel! There is a good reason why you have not seen a video of hand pollinating Hoyas. It is exceptionally difficult, takes hours, sometimes days of trying, and is done under high magnification with very tiny instruments. It takes unbelievable patience far more than I have. Any Hoya seeds that I have grown out have happened purely by chance after some insect, probably a moth, pollinated a flower.
It seems like most of the Swedes have it. I don't think that there are many in the U.S. who have it. Mine came from Torril Nyhuus by way of Julie K. in the UK around 3 years ago. I should have a giant plant by now, but have struggled with it.
Wow, Doug! Mind-boggling, right? I feel like your spectacular success rate is definitely because of the addition of your rooting liquid. That's just wonderful! Think of the time & money saved by water rooting! I'm going to TRY it, too. Thanks for sharing these great results. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. 💚
I've heard adding epsom to the water helps a lot with the rooting and it goes much quicker. You can compare this with rooting in ordinary water as an experiment next video
I'm a little leery of Epsom salt, after an online Hoya friend of mine said he used it on a number of Hoyas and it killed most of them. I did not actually witness it, and have no idea what kind of dosage he used, but I'm afraid to use it now.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas I use about a teaspoon per gallon of water and add it to the nutrient mix my orchid soak in for a half an hour. The leftover nutrient water after the orchids soak I use on all my house plants including my Hoyas never had a problem. And there's a lady who has a nursery and grows all her own succulents and has started to grow Hoyas for her own enjoyment. She has her Nursery in Punta Gorda Florida. And the name of her channel is Maria's Garden. She just sprinkle some of the Epsom salts and her pots or in with her potting mix maybe you could look at some of her videos. And she also has her telephone number listed and some of her videos. She's a native Mexican but speaks very good English. I think she'd rather call you with a question because it's easier been trying to write English but that's just a guess I'm not sure. Not sure she's open right now either because of the fairest but she said last spring and last summer I think that call her on a Friday and show answer the phone or leave her a message and she'll call you back
Interesting and sorry to hear about it. I have to say that water rooting no longer works nearly as well for me as it did at one time. I just had a entire jar of Hoya Bella cuttings rot myself, which never used to happen. I'm wondering if it is the water that I'm using. I stopped using RO water, and went to rain water, and I'm wonder it if is full of bacteria. When this method was working so well, I used RO water with a couple of drops of KLN concentrate, and put the jar in a warm, bright, location. It worked 95% of the time for me. I don't rely that much on water rooting any longer. A warm prop box with damp perlite, and or coconut husk chunks is what I use most often now.
Your layering demo shows a cutting, not attached to the mother plant. Then you mention cutting the rooted cutting away from a mother plant. This is a bit of a contradiction. When using the layering technique does the cutting have to Remain attached to the mother plant?
I'm unsure what you are referencing as I have never done a layering technique. These are simply cuttings taken from a mother plant and placed in a jar of water with a couple drops of KLN Concentrate. There is no layering.
I am so excited about this! Oh my gosh! Yay! Congratulations! 😊We aligned with perfect timing, I posted a Hoya care video today! 💚I'm elated that you had such success, thanks so much for sharing. WOO HOO!
Thanks for spurring me on to try it Betsy!!
Tes trop forte de l'avoir convaincu comme quoi finalement on apprend toujours malgré une solide expérience 😁
@@apc7716 Oui, il vaut mieux ne pas être trop déterminé. Il y a toujours plus à apprendre😁
@@apc7716 Thank you. I try to use Google Translate to reply to people in their own languages, but sometime it doesn't get it quite right!
Its kind to respond on their own langage
I love how blown away you are by the results 😂 it makes me excited to go take some cuttings and throw them in water. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the great comment and good luck with your own water rooting!
I've never done anything but water propagation, and it's never failed, so I'm not surprised.
Thank you for the information, I'm trying to get up the nerve to try it with Hoya platycaulis, which is supposed to be one of the most difficult of all Hoya to root.
How many times you changed the water? And from water to.soil, what yo do?
@@rinideh6414 Plant the rooted cuttings in perlite.
That’s awesome. Great to hear all the success you got from watering rooting them.
Yes, I'm looking forward to trying it on other hard to root plants.
Doug so fantastic when I viewed this I purchased a few second hand Aerogarden’s. They root like crazy and what I’ve found now is that my home rooted slips grow into a healthier plant more leaves just more abundant hands down. Thanks again to you and your fabulous work with these so rewarding plants. Grow on Doug!!🌿🌿
Thank you so much for the kind words Bev! Aerogardens work fantastic for rooting Hoyas. I used one once to grow a bunch of Hoya serpens, but forgot all about them. Thanks for bringing them to my attention again! Take care, Doug
Wow what a miracle everything were rooted amazing for 20 days yes in deed very exciting thank you 🙏 for sharing your water 💦 propagation congratulations 🎊 very successful watching from California enjoy it ❤️
Thank you Lola♥️!
I bought some cuttings on eBay last year and they all rooted quickly in water. Glad you tried it since you wanted that one to propagate and it just didn't want to cooperate😀❤💞
I've always rooted hoya cuttings in rainwater with 100% success.
Great information Ryan!
YAY! 😄 I have propagated in water and in soil and hoyas are absolutely so easy to propagate as long as you’re patient.
Yes, that is true, but there are a few that are a bit stubborn and I think that water rooting is definitely the way to go for those!
Holy smokes! Thanks for posting this video, very interesting. I've never thought about rooting Hoya in water before but this makes me want to give it a try. Thx!
You're welcome!
Hey, I’ve done this too! Just a Hoya carnosa and each stem I popped in the water has started to root! I just used tap water with a tiny splash of seasol and powerfeed! It is just so exciting! I’m envious of your peduncles though, I’d be so excited if they developed.... but roots are all I need!
Excellent news, I'm am so happy that the water rooting has worked for you! Thanks so much for reporting back!
This is so awesome! I’m trying to propagate a Krimson Princess Hoya now so this is encouraging.
Judy, I would expect water rooting to work great with Krimson Princess!
Awesome! I will try rooting some cuttings in water, for sure! Thank you for sharing!
You're welcome Janie!
Doug!! That's just thrilling!!! Thank you!
Yes, you have to give it a try Lynda. I used to root spider plants in water as a kid, but gave up on that method about 40 years ago. I guess it was time to give it another go.
Wow absolutely amazing results. Hoya I can't wait for the propagation. Thanks Doug for sharing this informative video with us. 😄😄
You're very welcome! 😄
Hi Doug, Getting a cutting of Hoya Incrassata, so going to try rooting it in a bottle of Spring water. Inspiring as always, thanks so much!
Hi Marc, Spring water should work find for you. Let me know how you make out.
This is so interesting to me! I have only ever rooted hoyas in water. I gave my mother a cutting of hoya wayettii and it's done quite well growing a bunch of roots. It'll be ready to plant soon. But I love that peduncle that formed!!! Beautiful!
So happy to know that water rooting is your go to method Kristin!
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas I think it's been just good luck. We have had a family hoya going back 5 generations and propagated multiple cuttings that way so I didn't really know anything about rooting hormone or perlite or any other methods of rooting cuttings until i started accumulating more different types of hoya. I'm up to 11...I've relied quite a bit on your site to find plants that will be a good fit as I also live in the northeast (central CT) and it's been invaluable to read about plants that are more tolerant of our weather conditions and seasonal daylight.
@@kristinlopez3123 I'm so happy that you have found useful information on my website Kristin. 11 Hoyas is a very nice and manageable collection; I wish you happy holidays and the best growing in the upcoming new year!
love the video❤. I tried to root 2 hoya cuttings in moss and perlite nothing happened but in water 😲WTH. I'm speechless as well. After an ample amount of time for the roots to grow a bit more, I will plant them in Pon which I never tried before.
A lot of people love Pon, and it works well for rooting, but I have had no luck at all growing Hoyas in it long-term. I always end up with root rot. I guess that I just don't use it properly, but I have no desire to try it again.
Hey Hey Hey this is awesome! I'm so glad it worked. Now the next test is to see how they deal with being potted up. You responded to my comment on your other video about water roots vs soil roots. When I pot mine up I soak the soil first and then fluff it up before adding the rooted cuttings. Someone told me to do this because the roots are more delicate and if you water after you plant it they can suffocate. Not sure if that's true.
Good advice Frances, I did make sure that the soil that I put them into was fairly wet, because it makes sense that coming from pure water, they are not going to like drying out right away. So far the plants in soil look great.
Fantastic, Doug. Certainly will change the game, especially with rare species.
Thanks Jordan. Here is hoping that it does change the game!
I’m so so so glad to see this 👏👏👏. I have large Obovata cuttings in water right now and this gives me hope! It’s been 14 days. I don’t have the KLN or a heat mat or a grow tent. They are just hanging out. Yikes! Tick tock, tick tock ...
I think you should see results soon.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas I checked them and there’s roots! It worked and I’m so relieved.
@@TheQueensWish Glad it worked!
Really enjoy your videos, thank you.
You're welcome Charles! Thanks for watching.
Great news. Always good to learn something new about our plants. I have a hoya that I got as a starting and already potted plant from my Mom. I had it for 4 or 5 years with no blooms. My Mom suggested I should put it out in full sun, which I did and almost killed it. Lost all leaves and most of its runners. Brought it back in, nursed it back to health and 15, YES FIFTEEN years later it finally bloomed for me last year. And again this year. ????? What happened! I lived in Sherman, Texas first and later moved back near Houston, but still took another 5 years after I moved to Houston. Why?
Wow, 15 years to wait for a bloom that takes more patience that I have! That is what I love about Hoyas; they never cease to surprise! Thanks for the great comment Brenda!
wow!!! i have a hoya bella cutting which is why stumbled upon this - doing research on best methods for rooting, thanks for this, hopefully i'll have the same luck :)
Good luck to you. I don't think there is a better way to root bella than water!
Oh wow! I've always been opposed to rooting in water because of transitioning the roots to soil, but now you've got me rethinking rooting Hoyas, too. Does it matter if it's a fresh cutting or is it fine if the end has calloused? A good future experiment might be to see if the rooting hormone that you put in the water makes a difference in root formation or not, too.
I'm going to put one of my struggling H. curtisii cuttings in water now and see what it does. I received ~8 curtisii cuttings a few months back and only the smallest cutting with four leaves rooted, 3 cuttings are slowly shriveling up, and the rest have withered away. H. curtisii is a pain to root for me, so I'm hoping that I have the success that you have had here.
I'm also having problems rooting Dischidia sp. Geri, and I recently got newer cuttings of it after killing most of my first go around with D. Geri. If my second attempt at rooting Geri starts to go downhill, I might shove it in water, too.
As always, thanks for the great video, Doug!
Thank you Kyla! These cuttings were extremely fresh, but I'm thinking that it would work just as well with a calloused one. I'm also thinking that curtisii would root very well using water.
Doug my Griffithii was starting to tap out, I cut slips from a weak failing plant, EVERY slip rooted like a beast!! This plant did not transition well from the nursery, I suspected poor roots to begin with. So glad to have it grow again. Love the flowers on griffithii🌿🌿🌿
I have always had really good luck water rooting my hoyas, I'm so happy it worked for you as well. 😊
Thank you!
Hi Doug, this was really fun and interesting to see! I have never tried it but definitely will melt some snow tomorrow and get some cuttings and go for it...
I have had good success putting cuttings in mostly good orchid sphagnum moss. Some I cut and pin into moss, one broken vine I found under the couch, all withered and dried up....even that one was saved by the moss. I just try to keep it moist until I know they are not only rooted but growing independently. I tried moss with Hoyas after seeing your video on the subject. Some absolutely love it while others faltered and failed in moss. Hoya krohniana 'eskimo' loves it in moss! Thanks for the great video! Cara
Very good information Cara! Your findings mirrored my own with some Hoyas loving the moss and others hating it. They all did however root well in moss, but it is after a few months that you really find out the truth. I am still using this water method every week and have yet to have it not work for me. Good luck with your water rooting!
I'm Sooo happy to have found your site. I love your highlighted reply's. Have a ? that I've been unable to get an answer for. My 1st hoya was in the 70's & lost in transit. A client gave me a cutting of Obovata about 6years ago, rooted in H2o Planted, have had flowers for about3-4 years .It need to be transplanted (roots out the bottom) The stems all have roots on them so I could cut any where. The problem is the Peduncle's!!! Say, 1ft long 2nodes & leaves at growing end, roots all along stem, then a peduncle in the middle of nowhere! Can I cut before & after the peduncle? Need to leave the " ped" attached? I've propagated this plant many times but where do I cut this ft. long? Will it, can it kill the peduncle? Help Kat
Hi Kat, It sounds like you have a tremendously healthy Hoya obovata! Generally speaking if you leave a peduncle on a cutting, you will end up with flowers on the new plant much quicker. You do not need to leave the peduncle attached if you do not want to either. It should do fine which ever way you decide to proceed.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas Thank You so much! I've been vacillating with this for ages. Seams like it's done blooming for now, so I'll give here a trim...I now have a hoya guru! & thanks for the swift reply, now I can sleep Kat
Do the cuttings need light during this time or do you place them out of sunlight while they are rooting?
I use artificial light but I would not put jars in direct sunlight. I would put them in a bright place with no direct sun.
Thank you for your video...👍 thats make me know now..how to make propagation of Hoya flower...regards from me at Indonesia 🤗
Nice to hear from you Rianasari!
Oh wow! What great success! That is very encouraging. I've got to try give it a try 👍
There is nothing to lose, and everything to gain Diane.
Is filtered water ok?i have 3 stages filtration anf it removes good chlorine percentage..
Thanks for posting this, I’ve just taken 3 clippings from my Hoya Bella I hope they root 😁
They will root very quickly in water Danielle. Good luck to you!
When you cut the plants for rooting, do you let the cut part dry up before putting it in water?
I usually just rinse the sap off the end and put it right into the water.
Great video! Thank you for your videos... I’m learning so much.
You're welcome Mary; thank you for watching!
Have kept the water jars on a heat mat n a grow box or just on a counter or on window sill?
Good question, these jars of water live in my humid grow tents so the temperatures are 78-85 degrees F during the day and can fall as low as 62 degrees F at night. I have not experimented with windowsill rooting, but many people tell me they are successful with it.
I'm so glad your hoya bella finally rooted 😁
Thank you!
could I find out where you purchased the brackets that are holding a pipe (maybe pvc?) in one of your pictures and plants are hanging from it would be so perfect in front of my porch windows but I cannot find brackets like that. would so appreciate the info. thanks
Hi Mary, I can't seem to find a link to these brackets to give you. I think that they were purchased at Lowes about seven years ago. They really are not anything special the rod that I have attached to them is a heavy painted steel rod bought also at Lowes in their closet shelving department. I wish I had more for you to go on.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas Thank you for replying. They were so unusual - black and mounted above the window frame with an unusual shape. Guess I will just have to figure something else out. Will be viewing your other videos in future. Only have two hoyas at this time but will definitely be acquiring more as soon as the weather gets warmer. Thank you again.
I had just now put 3 Hoya cuttings in water. Then decided to check if it would work. Yours was the first video I checked. Just added the rooting hormone. My plan is to combine these cuttings back w the original plant which is lopsided and make an even bigger Hoya plant. I’ll pot this in a slightly bigger pot.
Have you ever tried spraying your Hoyas with miracle gro orchid spray? My obovata was doing nothing for months so I tried this from a video comment and it immediately started a leaf bud. All my Hoyas are growing. I spray them every few days. I think this would be another great experiment to try.
I have not heard of this product; do you mix it with water or does it come premixed in a spray bottle? Good luck with you rooting experiment!
Have you tried a wayetti??
Beautiful results! I couldn't believe it when I my hoya leaf rooted in water so quickly. I have one of my Thai hoyas that is still alive but it doesn't look very good so I thought may be cut the stem and put it in water to root, what do you think? May be I can save it this way??
After the results that I just experienced, I would definitely try to save it that way!
Compared to the last plant on the right: when can the hoya be put in soil?
Any of these water rooted Hoyas can be put into soil when the roots get to be anywhere from 1/4 -1/2 inch long.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas thank you!
Wow, that is impressive! Always something new to learn.
Thank you Lucy! Yes, it seems like I learn a little something new most every week.
Hello sir I just purchased a sweetheart Hoya Kerri but it has black spots what do you recommend
It is probably a fungus of some sort. The only fungus that I have ever had a problem with is sooty mold, which wipes off. I would try to grow your new plant out, and if the new growth is unaffected, then keep the plant, if the new growth under your conditions has the same spots then I would throw out the plant.
Doug Chamberlain thank you sir
can hoya be rooted from just a stem with no leaves? i just got a cutting in the mail, all the leaves have fallen off...can't find much info, thanks!
It is a long shot, but if the stem is good and green, you have a shot at it.
I love propagation! I have a Hoya bella that I could only root in water. The hoya engleriana vietnam is a beautiful plant and I hope I can get my hands on it one day.
As a general rule, I know that the sooner you transfer the cutting to a potting mix, the sooner it will adapt. However, if you decide to pot them immediately after roots appear, would those roots perform better in potting mix, hydroponic or semi-hydroponic?
Your guess is probably as good as mine. I’ve never tried full on hydroponics but I would imagine it would be too wet for most Hoyas. Semi-hydro would probably Be the quickest, but I find that most things grow in that way fail within a year.
Unbelievable....Well done!! I am trying to roots some of my tropical hibiscus cuttings in water. Long process but the only one that works for me.
Good to know! I find that the quality of the water and a couple drops of fertilizer can make a huge difference in success with water rooting. I just tried an experiment using old rainwater on a bunch of H. bella cuttings and they completely rotted. When I tried the same thing using new Reverse Osmosis water, I had 100% success.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas You said one can use distilled water too right? What is reverse osmosis water actually ? Is this water you get filtered form you fridge for instance or? Sorry to sound so dumb....Lol...
@@laurencelhoest9420 The only dumb question is the one not asked. Reverse osmosis water is water that is forced through a filter so fine that it removes all the hardness and impurities. It is a special unit that takes a fair amount of water pressure to push water through this filter. Here is the one that I use: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UX48KW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Distilled water would be very close to RO water and would work fine.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas Thank you very much!
Rooting in water is the old fashion way that works!
Wow! Thanks so much...I had been very hesitant to water root too. One of the things I had been strongly warned about was the shock on the new water roots adapting to potting media and becoming “soil” roots... I would be very interested to know how your newly water rooted cuttings adapt and if they are set back at all.
I’m currently using a rooting media of perlite and vermiculite with good success...I’m thinking that adding the rooting concentrate to that with a humidity dome of some kind would increase my results ... all such good information! Thanks so much, and thanks to Betsy Begonia for spurring you on...yay teamwork!
Your're welcome Robert! I had the same concerns about water roots adapting to soil as you did, but so far the plants that I moved over to soil look just as good as they did in water and the peduncle and buds that developed on the white bella is still growing!
Excellent video ❤😊❤
Thank you Kathy, I just finished up water rooting some variegated Bella this morning so it still works!
That's awesome.I'm going to do the same and see if it work for me.recently I got some more Hoya verity's and I wants to make more of all Hoya family.thanks for sharing.
It should work for you. I have now rooted over a hundred cuttings with a 99% success rate!
I'm in South Africa, what would the equivalent of your KLM be? Or what ratio of chemical or rooting hormones..
You can find the ingredient list here: dyna-gro.com/product/k-l-n-concentrate-c/
In the winter months is it safe to plant a water container with a rooting Hoya on top of a heating mat?
I believe that it is not only safe, but it is preferable at this time of year. I just this morning put a jar of cuttings I'm hoping to root in a jar of water on top of a heat mat. I did this because I'm finding that the cold is really slowing down my rooting.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas ok makes sense ! I will try this also thank you!
Hi Doug, after cutting do you the propagate hoya in darker area ? I need to trim my Hoya, it's growing to long ..... so thinking of propagate it.
Bright indirect light is best for propagating in general.
@@ohkay2240 Thanks
@@ohkay2240 False.
I've had a Hoya for a couple years I think it's a crimson princess. It was in a hanging basket at Lowe's and it's now huge. It's never bloomed I guess because last year I took cuttings I may be cut off the part that would have bloomed. I didn't know any better and the cuttings that I took just sat during the winter in water and had so many roots last spring I planted the cute little guys four five of them in smaller pots. So I guess I should have been surprised that they rooted in water. And as soon as I planted them in media they were gung ho and doing great. They're still doing great! The water I use with straight out of the tap chlorine fluoride whatever else was in there I never have any trouble routing my plants in tap water. They also didn't have a plastic bag or a grow tent they were just sitting on my bedroom on the bookcase. I do have high humidity in the winter in my home so that may have helped because of my other plants
Glad to hear it Kathleen!
I use the microphone on my cell phone keyboard to make my comments and I can't believe it didn't put Hoya in that first sentence it said whole you !!!! I've seen it try to write so many different words instead of Hoya I think if I say it slow it makes it into two words the microphone that is. And since I'm talking to the microphone and dictating on my cell phone a lot of times I forget to edit before I push the send button
When is the right time to pot it?
Usually when the roots are from 1/4-1/2 inch long, but you can wait even longer if you don't have the time to do it at that stage.
Thanks!
Hi Doug, are you heating these from the bottom? How many hours of light per day (sun light, grow lights or both)? And what’s the room temp? Thank you so much!
Good question Samantha.these are not being heated from the bottom, but they are kept with other plants in a warm humid grow tent under a combination of LED and fluorescent light sources. The temps vary from a high of 85 degrees during the day to a low of 62 degrees at night. If these were put on a cold windowsill, it probably would not work nearly so well.
Thank you for the quick, detailed response!
Wow! Lots! :) My hoya got dried out :( We forgot to water it ... and the leaves are quite dry and wrinkly. Should I take it out of the pot and put the roots in water for a couple of weeks? I put the whole pot in a pail of water, and misted the leaves. What should I do? thanks! This is semi desert here.
If your Hoya got that dried out, you may have to restart it from cuttings. First see if the leaves plump back up and the plant seems to recover some of its vigor. If not, just take cuttings, root them in water and simply restart it.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas ok, thank you. Well I put the whole pot in a bucket of water n it was doing well, after a week, so I put it outside but it didn’t seem to like that so I ha e it back in the water . I guess it’ll take a couple of weeks eh?
What I do, and have been successful with with the few hoyas I have, is a hybrid approach. Plant cuttings in LECA in a semi-hydro setup, but don't water it just to fill the reservoir. Instead, fill it all the way up to the level where the tip of the cutting is submerged. By the time the water evaporates, you should have a rooted plant in an SH pot. This also helps avoid damage to the frail young roots, as you skip transitioning from a rooting medium to the final pot altogether.
Thank you for that very good information Grzegorz! I will give this method a try!
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas if you haven't come across it, you may wanna checkout Paul The Plant Parent's ongoing experiment with transferring using acrylic yarn as a medium:
ruclips.net/channel/UCJy5MfHd7eHOMRRqpCw8jSg
Amazing! I have everything except the grow tent. Can you elaborate please?
Grow tents come in all different sizes; here is an example: www.amazon.com/VIVOSUN-Hydroponic-Observation-Window-Growing/dp/B01DXYMQ9M/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=DLD85heSkgI-sv4DvTwYOg&hsa_cr_id=1617889370601&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_0
How often changed the water
I only change it if it gets cloudy or green, which is not very often.
Doug I believe you could sprout roots on a rock. 👍👍🌸
Oh, if only that were true 😅!
I literally tried to root a Bella for like 4 months, nothing! Do you think it’s the rooting additive you added?
It could be as I have never tried rooting in water without it. Bella definitely roots well in water as I just barely rooted several strands of one and I got strong water roots in 3-4 weeks. It might be worth trying to find a small bottle of KLN Concentrate. A small bottle will last for years as you only need a couple of drops in a glass of water.
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One week ago I put a cutting of Hoya Pubicalyx in soil specially mixed for seedlings/cuttings. I've just noticed its only two leaves have dropped which led me to your video here. Now I've removed it from the soil and put it in Brita water. My question is this - without the leaves, will it root?
Hi Alyson, it is very unlikely it will root. There is a remote possibility if your stem is really green, but if not it probably won't.
Do you need at least one node under the water for the root to develop?
Good question Adrian, I think it might depend on the Hoya. On the ones that I rooted they seemed to sprout roots on the bottom cut and on the node. I think if you have enough vine it would always be safer to keep a node under water, but if you don't have enough vine just keeping the cut section under water could very well be enough to get roots.
I will give it a try and see if it works. I hope they do, since I just got 6 short cuts from my sister and Hoya is pretty hard to find from my experience here in Berlin, Germany. Thank you for your help and a happy new year!
@@AdrianFirdhawanSoekotjo Happy New Year Adrian, and good luck with your cuts!
Is rain water good for Hoyas and to root them in ? TIA
I would think it would work better than anything if you have it.
Also I believe I heard if we collect faucet water and let sit for 2 days is good to water Hoyas too ? Ty
@@rosalimat I'm sure that it is fine, and that is what I water 90 percent of my Hoyas with and have no problems. I only used the RO water, because I had it. I also use RO (reverse osmosis) water for very sensitive plants that are not doing well for some reason with my regular tap water.
Hello,
This is a great information. I am curious to know how these rooted hoya's were after them being potted in soil? Thanks again.
They all took to soil like champs. While rooting in water is my go to method, it does work far quicker and faster in warmer temperatures.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas amazing. I am definitely going to try this technique, especially since my city is always sunny. Thank you for this clip and for your prompt response. 🙏🏼
Doug, please please give me those rooted cuttings if you don't want them 😍😍 your hoyas are really wonderful and beautiful and you are my Hoya Guru!!
Thank you Preeyanka! If the two rooted white bella continue to do well, they will be going up on eBay in the spring.
This gives me hope, ive tried rooting a few with RO water which is the only thing I use and sometimes it takes FOREVER! Like months, however I've never tried using KLN, which I have.. :) oh and everytime I use rooting hormone powder the cuttings do not do very well, they do better without the powder, so I wonder if the liquid is the way to go. :)
I have pretty darned good luck with the KLN; make sure that the area you root in is warm as when it is cold, it can take forever to get them to root in water.
I know this is old so I’m curious how you feel about water rooting these days? I always wait for all my water roots to gets secondary roots. I would have given the Bella another few weeks. I was cracking up at your reactions. I root almost all Hoya in water these days! ❤️
Quite frankly I water root very few Hoyas these days. I pretty much only use it on Hoyas that have gone limp because of rotted roots; When they plump up nicely, then I root them in a warm, humid prop box and mostly use moist coconut husk chips as a media. I am successful 95% of the time with this method. I still will water root the All White Bella, and linearis, and a couple of others, but that is about it. I still believe in the method, and think that most Hoyas benefit from a week in the water, but it slows me down a little bit by taking the time.
Did you have heat unser them
No, but they were in a very warm room. If it is cold, a heat mat works much faster.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas Ah ok Thank you
Have you try rooting Hoya Kerri variegated before if so how do you root it
I rooted a bunch of variegated Hoya kerrii last summer, and it rooted very quickly in regular damp Hoya potting mix in a very warm and humid homemade propagation box. I used a heat mat to keep it really warm, and it sat under grow lights. The boxes can be seen here: ruclips.net/video/zRe9ArWpuIc/видео.html
Doug Chamberlain I email you a picture of the Hoya since I can’t find a pot that long enough for the Hoya Kerri
Omg!! What kind of water did you use?? What kind of lighting?? I'm just amazed
Reverse Osmosis water with a couple of drops of KLN Concentrate in warm humid grow tent with T-5 Fluorescent Lighting.
Do you add anything in your water to help for the root to grow?
2 drops of KLN Concentrate.
Thanks!
I'm totally giving this a go ( in rain water as someone mentioned )
I've never had a Hoya plant before I found a woman giving away cuttings on Craigslist. I took them home and thought I would give it a try. One I just stuck in potting soil and I mist it with tap water once a week. The second one I have in a glass of tap water and after 3 weeks that is rooting beautifully. The one that I have in dirt I really didn't think that was going to make it I just thought I would try it and what do you know. I pulled some of the stems up just out of curiosity and they have Roots also. Now it's just exciting to see what's going to happen every few days. I didn't even use rooting hormone on these.
Thanks Dawn for detailing your experiences with rooting. I'm always a little suspect of some of these rooting hormones as well. I really almost never use them, and have noticed no difference.
Someone gave me a hoya cutting a litte over a year ago. I have no idea what kind of Hoya it is. He just told me to stick it in some soil and it should be okay. At that time I didn't know a single thing about plants except for the fact that every time I got one it died. I thought this plant would too but it's been over a year and not a single leaf has died. I stuck the cutting in a huge pot with potting soil. After watching your videos and some others and reading up on your website I realized that I shouldn't have put it in a large pot 1 and 2 I shouldn't use just regular potting soil. But it seems to be doing fine. Do you think I should repot it with a different mix? And into a smaller pot? Also, I am going to try my hand at another plant. I just ordered 2 types of dischidia. A nummularia and a ruscifolia. Can they both be put in sphagnum moss? Thank you.
Hi Dawwnnyy, You have had the plant for over a year and no leaves have died, but do you have much new growth? If you do, I would probably just leave it alone. If the plant has not grown much or at all, I would pull it out of the large pot rinse off the old soil and repot into a smaller pot. As far as soil, I would just use regular peat-based potting soil mixed with about 25% perlite. As far as your Dischidia I would use pure sphagnum as I have a ruscifolia that is over five feet long grown that way, and I've never had a Dischidia that hasn't grown really well in moss.
Doug, I just got a Hoya latifolia cutting, do you think I should do water propagation method? And if I have rooting powder, how much should I add to a cup of water?
I have not used rooting powder in water, and I just have a gut feeling that it might not be the way to go. If you use the water method, which I think would work well, I would use water alone, or with a drop of what I used, K-L-N rooting concentrate which is a liquid.
Thanks! I just ordered some. Latifolia is such an amazing Hoya and hard to find, I need this to work :)
@@nataliearonson5669 Fingers crossed for you. Hoya latifolia is not a hard plant to root, but it will only grow with very good humidity. So after it is rooted get it outside for the summer.
I am propagating some Hoyas in water currently. I bought them online and they are now starting to grow longer roots, but it took a long time. Mine didn’t have roots at 20 days.
Hi Emmy, I think it is also heavily dependent on the conditions under which they are rooted. My plants are being rooted in water, but they are also in 80-85 degrees with very high humidity, which probably greatly sped up the rooting process. I also just found my first Hoya giving me a problem with rooting in water and that is Hoya deykei.
what are your thoughts about leaving a hoya in water permanently?
Hi Mary, while I have never done it, many people say that they have; so it is worth a try. My problem is that if they grew well, they would be difficult to trellis or hang. The containers would not be able to be clear, or they would fill up with algae in short order.
What's the type of water??🤔
Reverse Osmosis = RO
Where did you get the large leaf Hoya from?
The large leaf Hoya near the end of the video is obtusifolia, and it came from a Hoya acquaintance in Florida. It is a maddening plant that won't flower except under very exacting circumstances. Here is a video of it: ruclips.net/video/KRJA-H_YztE/видео.html
WoW Doug i had no idea they root quicker than fuchsias this way,yes its throne me ..thanks mate.
You're welcome mate! Not only does it work fast, but it works on otherwise nearly impossible to root Hoyas like H. platycaulis, which is showing small roots after only 10 days.
Did you say "Vermont" hoyas???
That is me; Vermont Hoyas. vermonthoyas.com
Wow !! I like this idea better then the propagation box ,I saw on another You tube thank you.😊 I'm going to try it how much KLM into the water ?
I use just a couple of tiny drops from a pipette. Good luck, so far I've had nothing that it has not worked with 😊.
Is there an update video to this? I am interested to see how the transition went from water to soil!
I showed an update near the end of this video: ruclips.net/video/l-k95ePXZRg/видео.html Also, I continue to root in water and have now tried it with at least 25 different species, and there is not one that has not made the transition over to soil.
Hi Doug, thank you for that very informative video! I'm into my first hoya rooting - I'm trying it in water, you convinced me! Do I have to take the bottom leaves off, or can I put them in water? My cuttings have 3-4 nodes in total, it is breaking my heart to think that I have to take away precious leaves! I have cuttings of hoya mathilde, a ciliata and a brevialata to root. Thank you in advance for your answer!
Ideally you would not want the leaves under water so I usually take them off. If you have enough stem to at least get the bottom of the stem in water and can rig up something to hold your cutting in your jar so it doesn't fall out, you may not need to take any leaves off. Maybe use some wire or an old coat hanger to clip your cutting to. Put the cutting in so that the first set of leaves are just above the water, but not submerged.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas that's a great idea. Tying it to a wire or maybe even a bamboo stick but a wire wouldn't add anything to the water that might harm the plant. My grandmother used to grow African violet leaves and baby food jars with aluminum foil covering the baby food jar she poked a hole in the aluminum foil and it held the leaf up. I tried it to root pepperoni mm cuttings in the microphone on my cell phone keyboard doesn't know how to spell the plants name that thinks I'm talking about the meat to put on pizza! Teehee anyhow that might work especially with the wire that could keep it in the middle of the glass instead of sitting on the edge. Great experiment and by the way I heard you on the podcast the ledge talking about the three different Hoyas so great job she should have had you for the whole show and I can't find her other show that she said you were on...
@@kathleenmurphy2379 Hi Kathleen, I use aluminum foil on the glass of water quite often to root thin stemmed Hoyas like linearis that would fall over otherwise. Here is the link to my On The Ledge episode: www.janeperrone.com/on-the-ledge/2019/2/1/episode-82-growing-hoyas-aka-the-wax-plant
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas thanks for the link Doug!
Wow, a little bud from a cutting! Very cool! I'm going to try this with my Hoyas. Since you made this video, have you tried water propagating Hoyas without rooting hormone? I've water propagated other houseplant cuttings without any rooting liquid and was wondering if you have to use it for Hoyas?
I have tried without rooting hormone and it works out too. I have discovered though that water rooting now only works well for me if the temperatures are quite warm. I now use a heating mat under the jar in the winter and get much better results.
Hello Doug,
I just found your channel. Awesome videos! Thank you for sharing.
I just have one question regarding hoya pollination. I never saw a video of
someone pollinating hoya blooms. Is it difficult to hand pollinate them? I would love to grow some hoyas from seed, so I was thinking about crosspollinating mine.
Thank you! :)
Hi Nami, I'm glad that you found my channel! There is a good reason why you have not seen a video of hand pollinating Hoyas. It is exceptionally difficult, takes hours, sometimes days of trying, and is done under high magnification with very tiny instruments. It takes unbelievable patience far more than I have. Any Hoya seeds that I have grown out have happened purely by chance after some insect, probably a moth, pollinated a flower.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas I see. Thank you so much for your answer. That makes so much sense.
That is nuts! To have a cutting flower during prop? Never even heard of that.
It has now happened to me 3 times with different Hoyas, so I guess it is does happen once in a while.
Wow doug that is amazing! Im am still searching for the White Bella but its really rare Here.
It seems like most of the Swedes have it. I don't think that there are many in the U.S. who have it. Mine came from Torril Nyhuus by way of Julie K. in the UK around 3 years ago. I should have a giant plant by now, but have struggled with it.
Okay i contact her maybe she got a cutting for me
Can I buy one of those hoya cuttings from you?
This video is over a year old and those cuttings are long gone!
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas but you still have Hoyas don't you and you can get other cuttings. No?
@@Rest.in.ChristJesus If you want to get my unrooted cutting list in May, you need to send me an email at dougchamberlain61@gmail.com
Wow, Doug! Mind-boggling, right? I feel like your spectacular success rate is definitely because of the addition of your rooting liquid. That's just wonderful! Think of the time & money saved by water rooting! I'm going to TRY it, too. Thanks for sharing these great results. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. 💚
Thanks for the nice comments Margie! Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well💚
I've heard adding epsom to the water helps a lot with the rooting and it goes much quicker. You can compare this with rooting in ordinary water as an experiment next video
I'm a little leery of Epsom salt, after an online Hoya friend of mine said he used it on a number of Hoyas and it killed most of them. I did not actually witness it, and have no idea what kind of dosage he used, but I'm afraid to use it now.
@@DougChamberlainVTHoyas I use about a teaspoon per gallon of water and add it to the nutrient mix my orchid soak in for a half an hour. The leftover nutrient water after the orchids soak I use on all my house plants including my Hoyas never had a problem. And there's a lady who has a nursery and grows all her own succulents and has started to grow Hoyas for her own enjoyment. She has her Nursery in Punta Gorda Florida. And the name of her channel is Maria's Garden. She just sprinkle some of the Epsom salts and her pots or in with her potting mix maybe you could look at some of her videos. And she also has her telephone number listed and some of her videos. She's a native Mexican but speaks very good English. I think she'd rather call you with a question because it's easier been trying to write English but that's just a guess I'm not sure. Not sure she's open right now either because of the fairest but she said last spring and last summer I think that call her on a Friday and show answer the phone or leave her a message and she'll call you back
I have been using this method forever!
Great to know Lena!
Doug how often did you change the water? Or is it the same from the beginning?
Marlene, I didn't change the water at all.
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Eu amo hoya
Obrigada!
Mine are all rotted I don’t know what happened!
Interesting and sorry to hear about it. I have to say that water rooting no longer works nearly as well for me as it did at one time. I just had a entire jar of Hoya Bella cuttings rot myself, which never used to happen. I'm wondering if it is the water that I'm using. I stopped using RO water, and went to rain water, and I'm wonder it if is full of bacteria. When this method was working so well, I used RO water with a couple of drops of KLN concentrate, and put the jar in a warm, bright, location. It worked 95% of the time for me. I don't rely that much on water rooting any longer. A warm prop box with damp perlite, and or coconut husk chunks is what I use most often now.
Your layering demo shows a cutting, not attached to the mother plant.
Then you mention cutting the rooted cutting away from a mother plant. This is a bit of a contradiction.
When using the layering technique does the cutting have to Remain attached to the mother plant?
I'm unsure what you are referencing as I have never done a layering technique. These are simply cuttings taken from a mother plant and placed in a jar of water with a couple drops of KLN Concentrate. There is no layering.
Sorry, my mistake