Great advice. 5 minutes in to your video I knew, like you said, it may not be worth the effort. I'm off to an appliance store right now. My front load lasted 11 years. I'm getting a top load and hope it lasts 20 years like my mothers did! Thanks.
True mechanic never give up on machine and always succeed in fixing it. Video has very helpful information. Thank you. I able to fixed mine by replacing spider arm and 3 shock absorbers. Again thank you for helpful tips
dude... I didn't watch this before I started my journey. and no joke.. I went through all these things you described.. like almost to the t.. my spiderarm was just as bad. and went through cleaning it and said f it and ordered a new one lol 😆. I'm at the point of changing the bearings now. God help me.
update: I only bought the rear tub bearing. a little nerve racking to do but doable. just don't crazy, take your time. as far as the inner bearing, I simply opened up the existing gasket and applied more grease, as I felt it wasn't in bad condition, just maybe needed more lubricant. reconnected everything and got it running. advice? have someone help you with reinstalling the tub assembly, its way easier with 2 people. imo not a solo job if you wanna ensure that you don't damage any underside components.
Ha ha laughed out load in last minute!! I heard your wife/GF say 'buy a new one". So funny, just what my GF says to me. I am in the middle of the bearing repair. Mine is in better condition than yours however I am replacing the bearings, tub seal, spider and, as its easy to get at, the shocks. Guys like us are not understood sometimes by our female friends. The thought of throwing away something that can be fixed never crosses my mind and I prefer to forget about the cost and labor hours despite reminders from GF☺☺☺☺☺☺
My husband is ready to go buy a new machine! I on the other hand am determined that we can replace the bearings that we started to. Ran into some problems iwth the spider arm so ordered a new one BUT several of the bolts on the spider are just spinning. But I will not be beaten, they are coming out :)
I'm watching your video because my same washer is leaking a second time after rebuilding it 5 years ago. Every single issue you speak of was exactly like what I experienced except my motor magnet didn't destroy my motor coil so my repair was about $100 cheaper. Just that scum coating on everything makes me think the entire washer isn't a very healthy way of cleaning our clothes. As I set here thinking of having to do all of this a second time and have some other component fail like the water solenoids, I'm beginning to think I might have to send it to the curb and purchase a new washer and I almost never make that kind of choice. Great video. It should really help many DIYers that are in the same situation.
Totally relate to the dilema. Same exact experience with the exception of the scum layer. Try using less detergent and do NOT use fabric softener, ever. It all builds up. The key to making the bearings last is to NOT overload the machine with clothes. It puts stress on the seal and bearings over time. Great video though as far as content.
Run a clean cycle once a month with washing machine cleaner had same issue bad bearings and spider was corroded and broken. Machine was smoking .replaced spider bearings now good to go. Replace shocks while your in there
My washing drum spindle rusted/deteriorated which threw the drum out of balance and destroyed the bearings and bearing seal and shocks. 20 year old machine was in a weekend house. Not sure load weight or amount of use was ever an issue but rather the issue was corrosive chemicals in water and time.
I can relate. 🤣 Watching this after all the “hard” and “dirty” works. LOL. I’m about to reassemble EVERYTHING now, and just watching videos to make sure I’ll be doing it right. From the previous videos I watched, they are all saying and showing only bearing replacement parts. I bought the spider together with the bearings (with the o ring gasket included) and also bought a bearing puller from Harbor Freight before even starting the “project”. Inspite of the right bearing puller design I purchased, I have to return it as for quality issues (yeah, Harbor Freight), the jaws keep slipping as the jaw can’t bite well and it bends. I have to order from Amazon instead, so that’s another delay. The one from Amazon is perfect (sort of), but it only did half the job. I eventually resorted to partially hammering with a small mortar chisel from HF (you can use any metal rod or punch). Anyway, yeah … it’s really dirty. I think I spent a lot of time cleaning the tub parts and the rubber tubings. The spider failed as it’s full of gunk and corroded the aluminum (the family uses a lot of fabric softener, and recently the Downy beads). Probably once the spider is compromised, the tub wobbles during spin. This wobble damages the bearing seals, which will let the water into the bearings. Once rusted, the bearing will fail. As for ours, the bearings I removed still looks good, but can see rusts started to build up. Our 13 yr old washer’s first symptom was the smell of burning rubber after a wash. We looked and part of the front rubber door seal was partially torn and rubbing onto the stainless steel tub. We thought a garment probably got stuck and eventually torn a part of it. We dismissed this at first, as its probably a one time thing. But then we noticed the washer is making a noise, louder than usual, during spin cycles. After investigation, I found out that the tub now spins with wobble. And this causes the tub to rub on the front rubber seal. These are all symptoms you have to keep an eye on, don’t wait until the washer fatally fails. To sum it up, on what I thought is a simple fix, turns out to be a big project. This is all about pride now, lol, and I’m invested in it. But still, the expenses is still way down as compared to a new washer/dryer set. I enjoyed doing it, but heck yeah, the time spent costs more than a new one. Do I regret doing this, a big NO. 😅
Great advice. I had the same dilemma but once I saw that the spider arm was broken, that was my clue to stop. Hopefully my new LG will last 18 years like the last one.
I'm beginning to think that donating this old machine would be best, after watching the details of your harrowing experience with your machine. Let somebody else take it apart and rehab the machine - someone who truly enjoys doing such projects. Somebody that does this type of refurbishment for a living and has access to several junk machines to pull parts from. I've always got repairs to do for two vehicles; when I get one fixed, then the other one needs something done. Part of the cost of having two older vehicles with both having > 220K miles on the clock, and a cost that I don't mind paying. It's something I enjoy doing for the last 45 years, and repairing these vehicles keeps me occupied and I keep adding to my tool collection as a bonus. Thanks for posting the video; you just saved me from days of frustration and dangerously high blood pressure readings.
Thank you for the video, I started taking everything apart , and I even brought the spider and bearings on Amazon , all I had left to take out is the drum inside. But I left it for Monday , but once I saw your video, am taking your wife advice, am buying a new one. lol Lucky for me I still have time to return my parts to Amazon till February 1. Thank you soooo much for sharing all your information. You are a great man 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Lord bless you 🙏🙏
Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. I hope you made out well in the end! We have an almost identical machine (close to 20 y/o) that vibrates on spin and has some play between the tubs. I have made other repairs previously, but think I will run it until it goes out completely and just replace the machine rather than tackle the bearings and the whole slew of other parts
Man, you really touched my heart. Very genuine advice and I really love it. I was in the same situation with vibrations and thought the bearings are bad, striped it down to all the parts, but could not muster enought courage to remove the old bearing. Luckily, the bearings were not bad, and it turned out simply the washer of not balance properly.
Great video. I'm appliance repairman never replaced the bearing just because it's very time consuming and here in America the labor is more expensive than parts. I have been playing with the idea to replace one but to the extent of damage that was done on this one is exuberant. If you would have caught it earlier, probably would have ended up not having to replace the stator and magnets and shocks. Every time I do a repair, I also check the drum alignment. Sometimes you can spin the drum and watch the gap around the tub if it is changing. That means your drum is off centered. It could mean a broken spider arm from the hard water and soap combination?. Or if the bearing is going out you can feel it by lifting the drum up and down a little bit. And if you feel any play, the mean is bearing is on the way out. Also you can take the back panel off and see if there is any rust on water coming through and the bearing before it feels when it starts grinding and shaking it's too late. I would never spend $400 in parts and $400 in labor. For $800 machine. Most likely it took couple days before it was all said and done and the amount of damage to the other components would require multiple trips to get this thing back to normal. But I do really appreciate taking time and sharing all of your experience this is priceless!
Just completed this same job, if you are mechanically inclined it is not that bad!! One full day from 10am and I was running a test wash cycle by 5pm. That is taking a lunch and I am no appliance repairman. There are other videos to follow step by step and with links for all the parts.
Did the same job today. Took five hours. The hardest part was separating the spider axel from the tub. I thought it would never release. Fortunately I live in an area with very nice water, no scale. The spider was in great condition. I also F’d up the bolt trying to bang out the axel. But the bearings came out OK. I froze the new ones and I think that helped get the new ones back in. I didn’t wait to do the repair. The washer was only noisy for a few weeks. My stator and rotor were fine. I guess I lucked out. It sure runs smooth again. That’s rewarding.
I replaced the bearings on my Zanussi about 4 years ago, cost me a total of about £30 for parts, plus a few hours of my time. Mine was only 10 - 11 years old at the time and the spider was still in excellent condition. I saved a bit of money by buying quality bearings from a bearing supplier, rather than the Zanussi parts, the genuine bearing seal and the seal that goes between the two halves of the tub cost more than the bearings. It had made a loud squeal during the spin, and also did so when I turned the drum by hand, although there was no play in the bearings, which I knew probably meant the water/oil seal had worn out and let water rust the bearings, so I stopped using it before the shaft could get damaged and stripped it down to check what would need replacing before I ordered any parts. The tub and drum etc were nice and clean apart from some slight surface traces of limescale and some limescale build up in the sump pipes, but no mould, or scum. The spider on mine had no damage or corrosion at all, nor was it darkened like yours. I do need to descale my machine maybe about once a year with citric acid to stop limescale building up, we have very hard water in this part of the UK. We don't get mould, or smells in the washing machine because we use washing powder which has sodium percarbonate (oxygen bleach) and TAED in it and leave the door ajar after the wash. We stopped using liquid detergent in the 1980's after discovering they cause mould, scum and slime, and made the washing machine stink to high heaven. This video explains why - ruclips.net/video/6HnzBS_XQhA/видео.html Anyway, I hope it is still working well after all that work and expense, I had to spend another £15 on mine recently to fix a fault on the control board, thankfully the service manuals for electrolux (Zanussi/AEG) machines are pretty good.
lol buy a new one, a voice of wisdom there?... same problem here, it is much harder to get the metal shaft out than all the instructional video state. i am looking around to see if anyone found an easier way. i do have a bearing puller, but it doesnt work when the shaft is in the way. bearings puller are just that, only for pulling bearings.i also have a hyraulic press, but no way to fit tub into it. so i guess back to the hammer. yes it is easier to get a new one (this one is 14 years old so its due), but now that it is open, for me its no longer about the money, but the desire to see it thru. so thanks for the video, its very informative, self defeating but informative.
Excellent video and you have a great attitude Made me laugh it’s so relatable! Still deciding on mine it’s only 2 years old but I’m being told the GE bearing comes with half the tub and it’s 350- 425!
Leave the washer door open when it’s bait being used. I’ve never had any issue with mold or bad smells. I have had two loads now with the bearing making noise so I’m going to take mine apart today. Doing disassembly & checking for additional failures or wear on other parts before you place an order, is just how you’re supposed to do things. The scum on everything is completely normal and expected. The aluminum spider was a poor design choice- stainless would have solved the problem. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Bravo for sharing your story. I just finished putting mine back together yesterday. For us it was worth the effort to replace the bearings. Like you I found the spider caked in what looks like barnacles and it had pitting on the shaft so I ended up replacing it too. Our's was in better condition than your, no need to replace the stator and such. In Canada, I paid appx $170 for the spider and $92 for the bearings... all in (tax, shipping, etc). I might have saved a bit on shipping had I known the condition of the spider before I ordered the bearings. My dude math thought that $162 and 5-6 cumulative hrs in the garage was worth the effort as of course we would have to replace the "set" ;-) ~$2800. Like you I had not anticipated the force to release the agitator drum out of the water drum even after soaking in WD40 for a few hours. A few smashed 2x4's and it finally came out. I also stripped out one of the screw holes that keep the two plastic water tub pieces together, I tried some JB Weld plastic without success and ended up drilling through and using a nut/bolt. Great piece of knowledge you've offered here, definitely getting to it a little may have lessened some of the damage on the stator, etc.
Thank you for making this video. I am a 21 year veteran auto. mechanic and I’m glad I watch this video because I have the exact same washer and I have now decided it’s going to the junkyard it’s easier to just buy a new one not that I’m not motivated or unable to complete this job, but this is ridiculous. These new washers and dryers are junk at $1000 apiece when I was a kid my mother had all Kenmore’s eight maybe 10 even 12 years out of her appliances they just don’t make them like they used to. I can’t thank you enough for making this video because I can’t believe it. I’ll just go to Aaron‘s for one once again thank you so much.
It is very important with this kind of washer, to always leave the door open a little bit after every single load. This allows it to dry out inside. You will not get that mildew and mold if you let it dry out EVERY SINGLE TIME you use it. The instructions are very clear on this too, and the door latch has a feature that lets the door close within about an inch of being sealed. If the door is closed, no moisture can escape. I had my machine for years and never had any odor, and a girlfriend was visiting from up north, and she did not know, and closed it up after doing a load. Next day, I opened it and could not believe how bad it smelled...just from one time left closed. I ran a clean tub cycle with some bleach, and it was fine again, and now like 5 years later, it is still no smell at all, door gasket looks brand new. This could also contribute to the corrosion problems. You have to let the machine interior get all the way dry after every load, unless of course you are using it right away again. My machine just started making the roaring sound while it is on spin, only when it is going at that top speed though. So, after about 12 years, I have only ever had to replace the water pump, and the little door stopper that keeps it open a little bit. Both pretty cheap. I really do not want to buy a new washer if I can fix this one. So I am watching every video I can find to see all lots of info before I do anything. One I just watched, the guy says, it is a good idea to take it apart before buying anything. Delivery is fast these days, sometimes same day and next day at the worst for most stuff.
Bless your heart my man. Thank you for putting this video together! You will be blessed for helping others. This just convinced me to listen to my wife (and yours :) and look for a new one. Hopefully you got it back together and it is still running.
I tried over two days to try and get the bearings out using pullers, press, hammer etc etc. In the end I used an air hammer to smash it out in a second and got away with it. I was a bit worried about breaking the plastic tub but by that point it was trash.
I am now at the same stage as you did there, I done disassembly all the parts including inner drum and bearing, my washer machine problem is broken on the spider drum support, I am still try to fixing it and waiting for the parts coming. I have the same feelling as you, I spent a lot of time and always stuck in my head but hope I can finish my project successfully 🤞🤞🙏🙏
This is such a genuine video. Many thanks for making it. The best teacher for a layperson is another and you did an excellent job outlining the work involved. I want to understand better how you used your machine. Why that scum was there. Do you use liquid detergents mostly, what about fabric softener? How often do you run maintenance washes?
You are so right with this video. If you bearings getting bad. Thx to you I stopped here and did not buy any further parts. I would need to buy a Spider Assembly and Shock Absorbers. Now we buy a new machine in a special offer.
Thanks for this video. I am in the same situation with my LG front load washer. I replaced the shocks but it still has a serious wobble to the drum. From watching related videos I think the spider is corroded and broken. I am not even going to take it apart because I dont think its worth the trouble. 2 years ago, I repaired my mothers 1979 top load kenmore washer by replacing the drum seal which cost $7. Its still running like a champ after 44 years. I want to go back to a top load washer. I dont like the complex design of the front load washer. Its not long term reliable. The front load also doesnt wash cloths as well as the top load and leaves the cloths and inside of the washer smelling moldy as you stated.
i am close to same SPOT was doing 96 loads every 2-3 months for years had 10 people daily use. was overloading machine every-other load. "Dead heat on the Merry Go round"
I guess I’m qualified to pipe in here, Sometimes it’s not the money or time but the principle of the thing. I just finished. I’m the furthest thing from being a mechanical guy, but I got bent when two different repairmen said the repair would be between $1-2000! They both said “throw it away and buy a new one.” The “manufactured obsolescence” thing got me wound up, So for a total of $130 in parts and the magic of RUclips, I replaced the spider bracket and the inner & outer tub bearings. The bracket was crumbling like blue cheese (which is ridiculous and should be grounds for a massive class action suit, but they all do it the same so they get away with it) but the bearings were fine. I replaced them anyway. If you’re going to be that far into the machine, I figured just do it, the parts aren’t expensive. Take your time with disassembly and put every screw in a ziplock bag and mark where it goes, and when possible tape that bag to the part it goes to. Take a sharpie and mark everything on the inside, even down to where a zip tie goes. Reassembly will go much smoother. What I learned about the whole thing was great, and use about 25% of what the detergent recommended, and if your machine has a “Cleaning cycle” use it, even more that it recommends.
I agree with you theres too much waste in this throw away society, incidentally how old was your machine? Our LG is 4 yrs old, it spins perfectly when empty but with clothes it is noisy out of balance, they tell me the shocks souldn't fail already. What symptoms did your old spider give? they tell me its gives a metallic noise as the stainless drum sometimes scrapes against the plastic surround if there really bad ?
@@rogerbuckland4214 of course I’m not expert, (Then again I might be after the experience) But having been through this, I’m gonna say “get to work”. I’ll bet dollars to donuts your spider bracket is toast. Your fix will go easier by doing it like I did in my description, as you will at some point will feel overwhelmed. Don’t stress as it will be fine even though it won’t seem like it. 1. New spider bracket. 2. Replace the bearings simply because you’re in there that far. 3. You can replace the shocks whenever you want, as it’s easy access, unlike the spider and bearings. I got all my needed parts off Amazon, then just went super meticulous on labeling EXACTLY where every tiny thing goes when I took it apart. It’s a pain for sure, but payed off big time on the reassemble. And just be prepared to be hailed as a hero by the Mrs.!
@@rogerbuckland4214 ps, When it comes to the RUclips videos, you might not find one for your exact washer (I didn’t either) so find one that features a washer that’s really similar and very detailed. There’s some good ones out there. Another thing came to mind, It really helped my journey by having a good place to be able to lay everything out. I took mine out to the garage where it could be layed out and left alone, as in my case it would have to be left alone for days at a time while I waited for the inevitable oddball part to arrive from Amazon. (In my case, it was a new bolt set for one of the bracket arms)
Guys, My recommendation for all of you is to steer clear of front load washers and buy only top load washers. Remember we never had any issues like what he had, and most importantly, the mold and mildew and the stinky cloth.
I have replaced mine twice. Replacement parts should be made more durable and dont calcify and degrade but they arent.I understand things break but the spider should be a lifetime component. I couldent believe how much crap was all over everything
I am going down this path now with a 20 year old Kenmore stacked washer, we purchased new, in a weekend house. Replaced the bearings/seal/shocks for $167 (uneventful 3 hours) and while I was assembling the unit wife noticed while cleaning that the spindle on the spider arm was rusted and broken. So we were going to buy new. New was $2,000 for poor quality GE washer/dryer stacked. Spider arm with wash drum for Kenmore unit was $500. So we went with repair the solid, quality 20 year old Kenmore. Waiting for the spider/drum to be delivered. Estimated assembly time 2 hours. Total time estimate 5 hours labor. Based on today's low quality products, I bet your repaired unit will last longer and work better than if you had purchased a new unit. I am confident (and so is my wife) that my old unit repaired will be superior to a new GE unit of poor quality
Your wife sounds like mine," I want a new one". I have been there and done that with an LG washer, Replaced the cracked Spyder bracket, bearings, shock absorbers, and springs. Levelled it and put rubber pads under the feet of the unit. Damn thing still does not run smoothly and the drum moves around way too much. Now I need a new rubber front seal and I noticed that the hot water inlet valve is corroded, might as well replace that too. What happened to the days when a washer lasted 20 years? What is the big deal that it uses less water when it is not reliable? At least we can repair stuff ourselves and until it gets to a point that it is just not worth it anymore to repair and we have to buy a new one. Some things I have noticed on these new front loader washing machines. The replacement parts are way too expensive. The shock absorbers are junk. Basically a metal rod inside a plastic sleeve with a bit of grease in them. I wish someone would make an aftermarket real pneumatic shock absorber for these washing machines, that is probably why they don't work all that well. They need better dampening and a proper shock absorber.
Washing machines 20 years ago were all still plastic then. My dad had hotpoint and tricity bendix when growing up and they broke down too. It’s just luck I think and how well you look after it. My last lg was 20 when it died. And all my clothes come out just as clean as my old one. And yes it does use less water but I don’t mind as everything still comes out clean. But with a duvet or big blankets I do fill it up more with a jug to just up over the door they wash good then. But clothes come out clean every time . People need lessons on how to look after front loaders.
I have a cold water pressure washer with a detergent tub in line. So I used that to clean it all up. Time, Time, Time, keeps on slipping into the future. 😂😂😂
Yeah time is money but it feels good when your able to fix things on your own. Over use of detergent and especially the use of fabric softeners can leave that scum residue and harm the washing machine. Instead of fabric softeners use distilled white vinegar. You can clean your washer by pouring 1/3 cup ( 1 cup if it hasnt been clean in months or years) of citric acid and 1 to 2 tablespoons of oxyclean when you do the self clean mode. This is almost the same buying those expensive washer cleaning tablets or pouches. Just less expensive in the long run.
I just pulled out apart my washer. I was thinking i just needed to replace the shock absorbers and bearings. When i got the stator off, it was all rusted and now i can’t pull the last bearing off and the spider is toast. Calculating the price of all the parts and seeing how much a new once costs, I’m about to call it quits.
I couldn't get the bearings out after spending all the time taking the washer all apart. They were basically melted into the housing as the bearings were so worn They were coming apart but melted in place. At least it was easier to get down the stairs and into the dumpster after I took it apart!😢
Now Imagine having 2 side by side and disassembling them both at the same time. That was my journey. I had one that would be my working washer and one was the parts washer. I replaced the bearings on the working washer about 4 months ago. Only thing wrong with the parts washer was the inner basket had caught onto the metal edges and bent/warped the basket. Now you're gonna say why not put the metal basket into that one. Well based on reviews of this model, well there was a couple of continous complaints about the temperature and amount of water it used and the results were clothes that weren't really clean. What I have experienced with the washer I had that would be the working washer, was clothes that were cleaner than any washer I've ever used. So i'm using the outer tub stater and rotor, springs, dampner's and water pump on my existing to make it an almost new LG washing machine built by me. BTWuB - All my parts were free and all OEM, as my parts washer I found on Marketplace on FB being offered at no cost. 😂😂😂
The problem with repairing these is the cost of the parts. You did make some mistakes when taking it apart, but bottom line.. it's better to just replace it.
People should be using less sofner more hot washes and leave the door (OPEN) when not in use! I have a lg 8kg turbowash smart machine had it over a year nearly two never had the inside looking like that. Or my last lg intello washer which was 20 years old when it died. Might as well of bought a new machine for all the parts it’s had. But now will probably last Another 5 to 10 years 🙂
That is not a fun journey. You obviously need a new washer. I was lucky. I tore mine down, replaced the bearings, shocks, tub seal, and water inlet valve in about 6 hours. But mine wasn't in nearly that shape. Sorry.
I’m on my 2nd spider assembly since I bought the machine in 09. If I have a reason to buy a new one, it’s gonna be because the front load machines are unsanitary & disgusting . Taking apart & Fixing the machine doesn’t bother me , however , I will never buy a front load machine ever again for sanitary reasons
Use washing powders that have sodium percarbonate (oxygen based bleach) and TAED (bleach activator) in them and leave the door and draw ajar after the wash and your front loader should stay clean and odour free. Oxygen bleach kills mould and bacteria as well as breaking down stains, and leaving the door open stops mould growing on the door seal. I've not had a problem with mould, bacteria, slime, or smells since the 1980's when we tried out liquid detergents and stopped doing weekly boil washes. They don't contain the "oxi-action", because it would break down the other ingredients in the bottle. See ruclips.net/video/6HnzBS_XQhA/видео.html
Nearly 18 years on my LG Tromm and my bearing is making noise now. This is further than I wish to dive on it. It may last a week. It may go a other year or two. But my luck I'd do all this work and it would leak. Nope. Pass.
You shouldn't expect the new LG washers to last that long. I had one that lasted 13 years, but the new one I bought in 2018 shredded the bearings in pieces this year. I am thinking about changing brands now.
for what it's worth, better to buy a new machine. All the parts probably cost you more in the end. The machine is old so god knows what else will fail.
Never use powder washing detergent. Although it works well it’s always high in chloride and very acidic, that’s why your spider is so badly damaged. If you use a good quality liquid detergent you be amazed at how new the spider will look. But… you still have to replace bearings.
I almost exclusively use powder washing detergent, and I leave the door and draw ajar after the wash to let the door seal dry, and when I replaced the bearings in my current machine a few years ago after 10 years of use, the spider was in perfect condition. But, I've not come across a powder that was other than an alkaline, and I don't recall any containing any chloride. I tried liquid detergents many years ago in another machine, the machine eventually became smelly and we found mould and slime under the door seal and in the tub etc. I've since read that liquid detergent residue is left coating the innards of the machine after the wash, which retains moisture, promoting bacteria and mould growth and that the moisture from the residue and from the biofilm coating the spider might be one cause of corrosion. Also, most, if not all, washing machine powders sold in the UK contain an oxygen bleach stain remover (sodium percarbonate and TAED) this is also very effective at killing mould and bacteria and keeps the machine clean.
Most of what you think is detergent is actually fabric softener. Liquid fabric softener is the worst thing you can put in a washing machine. It attacks the seals. I've been a tech for quite awhile.
Where are YOUR videos? I don't think he talked too much - he talked just enough to have me seriously reconsider doing this bearing job and just get another machine. I have better things to do than to rehab a 16 year old washer that probably has more wrong with it than the OP's machine. And parts for mine are not widely available and the ones available are likely made in China, which reduces the time the machine will last.
How about you just change the channel since you weren't forced to continue watching! Being negative is a choice, and you could stand a lesson or two in that saying...if you don't have anything nice to say just keep your mouth shut and keep it movin!
What he shared is priceless! It tells you don't do this. This is not worth your time and money. If you want to learn how to replace it, this is the wrong video. If you didn't get the point yet, he really tells you that too many things got destroyed and you never going to have a brand new machine
Time is money, but knowing that you are familiar with all internal parts is priceless!
Great advice. 5 minutes in to your video I knew, like you said, it may not be worth the effort. I'm off to an appliance store right now. My front load lasted 11 years. I'm getting a top load and hope it lasts 20 years like my mothers did! Thanks.
True mechanic never give up on machine and always succeed in fixing it.
Video has very helpful information.
Thank you.
I able to fixed mine by replacing spider arm and 3 shock absorbers. Again thank you for helpful tips
dude... I didn't watch this before I started my journey. and no joke.. I went through all these things you described.. like almost to the t.. my spiderarm was just as bad. and went through cleaning it and said f it and ordered a new one lol 😆. I'm at the point of changing the bearings now. God help me.
update: I only bought the rear tub bearing. a little nerve racking to do but doable. just don't crazy, take your time. as far as the inner bearing, I simply opened up the existing gasket and applied more grease, as I felt it wasn't in bad condition, just maybe needed more lubricant. reconnected everything and got it running. advice? have someone help you with reinstalling the tub assembly, its way easier with 2 people. imo not a solo job if you wanna ensure that you don't damage any underside components.
Ha ha laughed out load in last minute!! I heard your wife/GF say 'buy a new one". So funny, just what my GF says to me. I am in the middle of the bearing repair. Mine is in better condition than yours however I am replacing the bearings, tub seal, spider and, as its easy to get at, the shocks.
Guys like us are not understood sometimes by our female friends. The thought of throwing away something that can be fixed never crosses my mind and I prefer to forget about the cost and labor hours despite reminders from GF☺☺☺☺☺☺
My husband is ready to go buy a new machine! I on the other hand am determined that we can replace the bearings that we started to. Ran into some problems iwth the spider arm so ordered a new one BUT several of the bolts on the spider are just spinning. But I will not be beaten, they are coming out :)
@@marypalermo4392 Fabulous keep at it. There are anuimber of RUclipss on how to remove spinning bolts. I was luck y with my spider bolts
I'm watching your video because my same washer is leaking a second time after rebuilding it 5 years ago. Every single issue you speak of was exactly like what I experienced except my motor magnet didn't destroy my motor coil so my repair was about $100 cheaper. Just that scum coating on everything makes me think the entire washer isn't a very healthy way of cleaning our clothes. As I set here thinking of having to do all of this a second time and have some other component fail like the water solenoids, I'm beginning to think I might have to send it to the curb and purchase a new washer and I almost never make that kind of choice. Great video. It should really help many DIYers that are in the same situation.
Totally relate to the dilema. Same exact experience with the exception of the scum layer. Try using less detergent and do NOT use fabric softener, ever. It all builds up. The key to making the bearings last is to NOT overload the machine with clothes. It puts stress on the seal and bearings over time. Great video though as far as content.
"...NOT overload the machine." Try telling that to my kids.
Run a clean cycle once a month with washing machine cleaner had same issue bad bearings and spider was corroded and broken. Machine was smoking .replaced spider bearings now good to go. Replace shocks while your in there
@@brianharrison5481 RIGHT ON SIR!!!
My washing drum spindle rusted/deteriorated which threw the drum out of balance and destroyed the bearings and bearing seal and shocks. 20 year old machine was in a weekend house. Not sure load weight or amount of use was ever an issue but rather the issue was corrosive chemicals in water and time.
I can relate. 🤣 Watching this after all the “hard” and “dirty” works. LOL. I’m about to reassemble EVERYTHING now, and just watching videos to make sure I’ll be doing it right. From the previous videos I watched, they are all saying and showing only bearing replacement parts. I bought the spider together with the bearings (with the o ring gasket included) and also bought a bearing puller from Harbor Freight before even starting the “project”. Inspite of the right bearing puller design I purchased, I have to return it as for quality issues (yeah, Harbor Freight), the jaws keep slipping as the jaw can’t bite well and it bends. I have to order from Amazon instead, so that’s another delay. The one from Amazon is perfect (sort of), but it only did half the job. I eventually resorted to partially hammering with a small mortar chisel from HF (you can use any metal rod or punch). Anyway, yeah … it’s really dirty. I think I spent a lot of time cleaning the tub parts and the rubber tubings. The spider failed as it’s full of gunk and corroded the aluminum (the family uses a lot of fabric softener, and recently the Downy beads). Probably once the spider is compromised, the tub wobbles during spin. This wobble damages the bearing seals, which will let the water into the bearings. Once rusted, the bearing will fail. As for ours, the bearings I removed still looks good, but can see rusts started to build up. Our 13 yr old washer’s first symptom was the smell of burning rubber after a wash. We looked and part of the front rubber door seal was partially torn and rubbing onto the stainless steel tub. We thought a garment probably got stuck and eventually torn a part of it. We dismissed this at first, as its probably a one time thing. But then we noticed the washer is making a noise, louder than usual, during spin cycles. After investigation, I found out that the tub now spins with wobble. And this causes the tub to rub on the front rubber seal. These are all symptoms you have to keep an eye on, don’t wait until the washer fatally fails. To sum it up, on what I thought is a simple fix, turns out to be a big project. This is all about pride now, lol, and I’m invested in it. But still, the expenses is still way down as compared to a new washer/dryer set. I enjoyed doing it, but heck yeah, the time spent costs more than a new one. Do I regret doing this, a big NO. 😅
Great advice. I had the same dilemma but once I saw that the spider arm was broken, that was my clue to stop. Hopefully my new LG will last 18 years like the last one.
I'm beginning to think that donating this old machine would be best, after watching the details of your harrowing experience with your machine. Let somebody else take it apart and rehab the machine - someone who truly enjoys doing such projects. Somebody that does this type of refurbishment for a living and has access to several junk machines to pull parts from. I've always got repairs to do for two vehicles; when I get one fixed, then the other one needs something done. Part of the cost of having two older vehicles with both having > 220K miles on the clock, and a cost that I don't mind paying. It's something I enjoy doing for the last 45 years, and repairing these vehicles keeps me occupied and I keep adding to my tool collection as a bonus. Thanks for posting the video; you just saved me from days of frustration and dangerously high blood pressure readings.
Best 'repair' video I've ever watched. Every word truth. Thank you.
Thank you for the video, I started taking everything apart , and I even brought the spider and bearings on Amazon , all I had left to take out is the drum inside. But I left it for Monday , but once I saw your video, am taking your wife advice, am buying a new one. lol
Lucky for me I still have time to return my parts to Amazon till February 1.
Thank you soooo much for sharing all your information. You are a great man 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 Lord bless you 🙏🙏
Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. I hope you made out well in the end!
We have an almost identical machine (close to 20 y/o) that vibrates on spin and has some play between the tubs.
I have made other repairs previously, but think I will run it until it goes out completely and just replace the machine rather than tackle the bearings and the whole slew of other parts
Man, you really touched my heart. Very genuine advice and I really love it. I was in the same situation with vibrations and thought the bearings are bad, striped it down to all the parts, but could not muster enought courage to remove the old bearing. Luckily, the bearings were not bad, and it turned out simply the washer of not balance properly.
Great video. I'm appliance repairman never replaced the bearing just because it's very time consuming and here in America the labor is more expensive than parts. I have been playing with the idea to replace one but to the extent of damage that was done on this one is exuberant. If you would have caught it earlier, probably would have ended up not having to replace the stator and magnets and shocks. Every time I do a repair, I also check the drum alignment. Sometimes you can spin the drum and watch the gap around the tub if it is changing. That means your drum is off centered. It could mean a broken spider arm from the hard water and soap combination?. Or if the bearing is going out you can feel it by lifting the drum up and down a little bit. And if you feel any play, the mean is bearing is on the way out. Also you can take the back panel off and see if there is any rust on water coming through and the bearing before it feels when it starts grinding and shaking it's too late. I would never spend $400 in parts and $400 in labor. For $800 machine. Most likely it took couple days before it was all said and done and the amount of damage to the other components would require multiple trips to get this thing back to normal. But I do really appreciate taking time and sharing all of your experience this is priceless!
Just completed this same job, if you are mechanically inclined it is not that bad!! One full day from 10am and I was running a test wash cycle by 5pm. That is taking a lunch and I am no appliance repairman. There are other videos to follow step by step and with links for all the parts.
Did the same job today. Took five hours. The hardest part was separating the spider axel from the tub. I thought it would never release. Fortunately I live in an area with very nice water, no scale. The spider was in great condition.
I also F’d up the bolt trying to bang out the axel. But the bearings came out OK. I froze the new ones and I think that helped get the new ones back in.
I didn’t wait to do the repair. The washer was only noisy for a few weeks. My stator and rotor were fine.
I guess I lucked out. It sure runs smooth again. That’s rewarding.
I replaced the bearings on my Zanussi about 4 years ago, cost me a total of about £30 for parts, plus a few hours of my time. Mine was only 10 - 11 years old at the time and the spider was still in excellent condition. I saved a bit of money by buying quality bearings from a bearing supplier, rather than the Zanussi parts, the genuine bearing seal and the seal that goes between the two halves of the tub cost more than the bearings.
It had made a loud squeal during the spin, and also did so when I turned the drum by hand, although there was no play in the bearings, which I knew probably meant the water/oil seal had worn out and let water rust the bearings, so I stopped using it before the shaft could get damaged and stripped it down to check what would need replacing before I ordered any parts.
The tub and drum etc were nice and clean apart from some slight surface traces of limescale and some limescale build up in the sump pipes, but no mould, or scum. The spider on mine had no damage or corrosion at all, nor was it darkened like yours. I do need to descale my machine maybe about once a year with citric acid to stop limescale building up, we have very hard water in this part of the UK.
We don't get mould, or smells in the washing machine because we use washing powder which has sodium percarbonate (oxygen bleach) and TAED in it and leave the door ajar after the wash. We stopped using liquid detergent in the 1980's after discovering they cause mould, scum and slime, and made the washing machine stink to high heaven. This video explains why - ruclips.net/video/6HnzBS_XQhA/видео.html
Anyway, I hope it is still working well after all that work and expense, I had to spend another £15 on mine recently to fix a fault on the control board, thankfully the service manuals for electrolux (Zanussi/AEG) machines are pretty good.
lol buy a new one, a voice of wisdom there?... same problem here, it is much harder to get the metal shaft out than all the instructional video state. i am looking around to see if anyone found an easier way. i do have a bearing puller, but it doesnt work when the shaft is in the way. bearings puller are just that, only for pulling bearings.i also have a hyraulic press, but no way to fit tub into it. so i guess back to the hammer. yes it is easier to get a new one (this one is 14 years old so its due), but now that it is open, for me its no longer about the money, but the desire to see it thru. so thanks for the video, its very informative, self defeating but informative.
I bet you feel great every time someone uses that repaired machine. Good for you!
Excellent video and you have a great attitude Made me laugh it’s so relatable! Still deciding on mine it’s only 2 years old but I’m being told the GE bearing comes with half the tub and it’s 350- 425!
Leave the washer door open when it’s bait being used. I’ve never had any issue with mold or bad smells. I have had two loads now with the bearing making noise so I’m going to take mine apart today. Doing disassembly & checking for additional failures or wear on other parts before you place an order, is just how you’re supposed to do things. The scum on everything is completely normal and expected. The aluminum spider was a poor design choice- stainless would have solved the problem. Anyway, thanks for the video.
Bravo for sharing your story. I just finished putting mine back together yesterday. For us it was worth the effort to replace the bearings. Like you I found the spider caked in what looks like barnacles and it had pitting on the shaft so I ended up replacing it too. Our's was in better condition than your, no need to replace the stator and such. In Canada, I paid appx $170 for the spider and $92 for the bearings... all in (tax, shipping, etc). I might have saved a bit on shipping had I known the condition of the spider before I ordered the bearings. My dude math thought that $162 and 5-6 cumulative hrs in the garage was worth the effort as of course we would have to replace the "set" ;-) ~$2800. Like you I had not anticipated the force to release the agitator drum out of the water drum even after soaking in WD40 for a few hours. A few smashed 2x4's and it finally came out.
I also stripped out one of the screw holes that keep the two plastic water tub pieces together, I tried some JB Weld plastic without success and ended up drilling through and using a nut/bolt.
Great piece of knowledge you've offered here, definitely getting to it a little may have lessened some of the damage on the stator, etc.
Thank you for making this video. I am a 21 year veteran auto. mechanic and I’m glad I watch this video because I have the exact same washer and I have now decided it’s going to the junkyard it’s easier to just buy a new one not that I’m not motivated or unable to complete this job, but this is ridiculous. These new washers and dryers are junk at $1000 apiece when I was a kid my mother had all Kenmore’s eight maybe 10 even 12 years out of her appliances they just don’t make them like they used to. I can’t thank you enough for making this video because I can’t believe it. I’ll just go to Aaron‘s for one once again thank you so much.
Cheers for the video. I appreciated the information, I hope you sold the parts to a local plumber and bought a new machine in the end
Thank you for sharing the rabbit hole. I think I’ll change my 3 shocks and see if it solves my issue.
It is very important with this kind of washer, to always leave the door open a little bit after every single load.
This allows it to dry out inside.
You will not get that mildew and mold if you let it dry out EVERY SINGLE TIME you use it.
The instructions are very clear on this too, and the door latch has a feature that lets the door close within about an inch of being sealed.
If the door is closed, no moisture can escape.
I had my machine for years and never had any odor, and a girlfriend was visiting from up north, and she did not know, and closed it up after doing a load.
Next day, I opened it and could not believe how bad it smelled...just from one time left closed.
I ran a clean tub cycle with some bleach, and it was fine again, and now like 5 years later, it is still no smell at all, door gasket looks brand new.
This could also contribute to the corrosion problems.
You have to let the machine interior get all the way dry after every load, unless of course you are using it right away again.
My machine just started making the roaring sound while it is on spin, only when it is going at that top speed though.
So, after about 12 years, I have only ever had to replace the water pump, and the little door stopper that keeps it open a little bit. Both pretty cheap.
I really do not want to buy a new washer if I can fix this one.
So I am watching every video I can find to see all lots of info before I do anything.
One I just watched, the guy says, it is a good idea to take it apart before buying anything. Delivery is fast these days, sometimes same day and next day at the worst for most stuff.
Bless your heart my man. Thank you for putting this video together! You will be blessed for helping others. This just convinced me to listen to my wife (and yours :) and look for a new one. Hopefully you got it back together and it is still running.
I tried over two days to try and get the bearings out using pullers, press, hammer etc etc. In the end I used an air hammer to smash it out in a second and got away with it. I was a bit worried about breaking the plastic tub but by that point it was trash.
I am now at the same stage as you did there, I done disassembly all the parts including inner drum and bearing, my washer machine problem is broken on the spider drum support, I am still try to fixing it and waiting for the parts coming. I have the same feelling as you, I spent a lot of time and always stuck in my head but hope I can finish my project successfully 🤞🤞🙏🙏
This is such a genuine video. Many thanks for making it. The best teacher for a layperson is another and you did an excellent job outlining the work involved. I want to understand better how you used your machine. Why that scum was there. Do you use liquid detergents mostly, what about fabric softener? How often do you run maintenance washes?
You are so right with this video. If you bearings getting bad. Thx to you I stopped here and did not buy any further parts. I would need to buy a Spider Assembly and Shock Absorbers. Now we buy a new machine in a special offer.
Thanks for this video. I am in the same situation with my LG front load washer. I replaced the shocks but it still has a serious wobble to the drum. From watching related videos I think the spider is corroded and broken. I am not even going to take it apart because I dont think its worth the trouble. 2 years ago, I repaired my mothers 1979 top load kenmore washer by replacing the drum seal which cost $7. Its still running like a champ after 44 years. I want to go back to a top load washer. I dont like the complex design of the front load washer. Its not long term reliable. The front load also doesnt wash cloths as well as the top load and leaves the cloths and inside of the washer smelling moldy as you stated.
Thanks for the info. I’ll know what to look for now. Very informative.
i am close to same SPOT was doing 96 loads every 2-3 months for years had 10 people daily use. was overloading machine every-other load. "Dead heat on the Merry Go round"
I guess I’m qualified to pipe in here,
Sometimes it’s not the money or time but the principle of the thing.
I just finished.
I’m the furthest thing from being a mechanical guy, but I got bent when two different repairmen said the repair would be between $1-2000!
They both said “throw it away and buy a new one.”
The “manufactured obsolescence” thing got me wound up,
So for a total of $130 in parts and the magic of RUclips, I replaced the spider bracket and the inner & outer tub bearings.
The bracket was crumbling like blue cheese (which is ridiculous and should be grounds for a massive class action suit, but they all do it the same so they get away with it)
but the bearings were fine. I replaced them anyway.
If you’re going to be that far into the machine, I figured just do it, the parts aren’t expensive.
Take your time with disassembly and put every screw in a ziplock bag and mark where it goes, and when possible tape that bag to the part it goes to. Take a sharpie and mark everything on the inside, even down to where a zip tie goes. Reassembly will go much smoother.
What I learned about the whole thing was great, and use about 25% of what the detergent recommended, and if your machine has a
“Cleaning cycle” use it, even more that it recommends.
I agree with you theres too much waste in this throw away society, incidentally how old was your machine? Our LG is 4 yrs old, it spins perfectly when empty but with clothes it is noisy out of balance, they tell me the shocks souldn't fail already. What symptoms did your old spider give? they tell me its gives a metallic noise as the stainless drum sometimes scrapes against the plastic surround if there really bad ?
@@rogerbuckland4214 of course I’m not expert,
(Then again I might be after the experience)
But having been through this, I’m gonna say “get to work”.
I’ll bet dollars to donuts your spider bracket is toast. Your fix will go easier by doing it like I did in my description, as you will at some point will feel overwhelmed. Don’t stress as it will be fine even though it won’t seem like it.
1. New spider bracket.
2. Replace the bearings simply because you’re in there that far.
3. You can replace the shocks whenever you want, as it’s easy access, unlike the spider and bearings.
I got all my needed parts off Amazon, then just went super meticulous on labeling EXACTLY where every tiny thing goes when I took it apart.
It’s a pain for sure, but payed off big time on the reassemble.
And just be prepared to be hailed as a hero by the Mrs.!
@@rogerbuckland4214 ps,
When it comes to the RUclips videos, you might not find one for your exact washer (I didn’t either) so find one that features a washer that’s really similar and very detailed. There’s some good ones out there.
Another thing came to mind,
It really helped my journey by having a good place to be able to lay everything out. I took mine out to the garage where it could be layed out and left alone, as in my case it would have to be left alone for days at a time while I waited for the inevitable oddball part to arrive from Amazon.
(In my case, it was a new bolt set for one of the bracket arms)
@@Daddy53751 Thanks for your advice 👍
@@Daddy53751 Thanks for your advice 👍
Guys, My recommendation for all of you is to steer clear of front load washers and buy only top load washers. Remember we never had any issues like what he had, and most importantly, the mold and mildew and the stinky cloth.
Biden is about to ban them, so hurry up if you need one.
I have replaced mine twice. Replacement parts should be made more durable and dont calcify and degrade but they arent.I understand things break but the spider should be a lifetime component. I couldent believe how much crap was all over everything
I am going down this path now with a 20 year old Kenmore stacked washer, we purchased new, in a weekend house. Replaced the bearings/seal/shocks for $167 (uneventful 3 hours) and while I was assembling the unit wife noticed while cleaning that the spindle on the spider arm was rusted and broken. So we were going to buy new. New was $2,000 for poor quality GE washer/dryer stacked. Spider arm with wash drum for Kenmore unit was $500. So we went with repair the solid, quality 20 year old Kenmore. Waiting for the spider/drum to be delivered. Estimated assembly time 2 hours. Total time estimate 5 hours labor. Based on today's low quality products, I bet your repaired unit will last longer and work better than if you had purchased a new unit. I am confident (and so is my wife) that my old unit repaired will be superior to a new GE unit of poor quality
Your wife sounds like mine," I want a new one". I have been there and done that with an LG washer, Replaced the cracked Spyder bracket, bearings, shock absorbers, and springs. Levelled it and put rubber pads under the feet of the unit. Damn thing still does not run smoothly and the drum moves around way too much. Now I need a new rubber front seal and I noticed that the hot water inlet valve is corroded, might as well replace that too. What happened to the days when a washer lasted 20 years? What is the big deal that it uses less water when it is not reliable?
At least we can repair stuff ourselves and until it gets to a point that it is just not worth it anymore to repair and we have to buy a new one. Some things I have noticed on these new front loader washing machines. The replacement parts are way too expensive. The shock absorbers are junk. Basically a metal rod inside a plastic sleeve with a bit of grease in them. I wish someone would make an aftermarket real pneumatic shock absorber for these washing machines, that is probably why they don't work all that well. They need better dampening and a proper shock absorber.
Washing machines 20 years ago were all still plastic then. My dad had hotpoint and tricity bendix when growing up and they broke down too. It’s just luck I think and how well you look after it. My last lg was 20 when it died. And all my clothes come out just as clean as my old one. And yes it does use less water but I don’t mind as everything still comes out clean. But with a duvet or big blankets I do fill it up more with a jug to just up over the door they wash good then. But clothes come out clean every time . People need lessons on how to look after front loaders.
I have a cold water pressure washer with a detergent tub in line. So I used that to clean it all up.
Time, Time, Time, keeps on slipping into the future.
😂😂😂
Yeah time is money but it feels good when your able to fix things on your own. Over use of detergent and especially the use of fabric softeners can leave that scum residue and harm the washing machine. Instead of fabric softeners use distilled white vinegar. You can clean your washer by pouring 1/3 cup ( 1 cup if it hasnt been clean in months or years) of citric acid and 1 to 2 tablespoons of oxyclean when you do the self clean mode. This is almost the same buying those expensive washer cleaning tablets or pouches. Just less expensive in the long run.
Thanks bro!
I just pulled out apart my washer. I was thinking i just needed to replace the shock absorbers and bearings. When i got the stator off, it was all rusted and now i can’t pull the last bearing off and the spider is toast. Calculating the price of all the parts and seeing how much a new once costs, I’m about to call it quits.
Your wife’s message at the end, my wife’s been telling me that too 😂
I couldn't get the bearings out after spending all the time taking the washer all apart. They were basically melted into the housing as the bearings were so worn They were coming apart but melted in place. At least it was easier to get down the stairs and into the dumpster after I took it apart!😢
Now Imagine having 2 side by side and disassembling them both at the same time.
That was my journey. I had one that would be my working washer and one was the parts washer.
I replaced the bearings on the working washer about 4 months ago. Only thing wrong with the parts washer was the inner basket had caught onto the metal edges and bent/warped the basket.
Now you're gonna say why not put the metal basket into that one. Well based on reviews of this model, well there was a couple of continous complaints about the temperature and amount of water it used and the results were clothes that weren't really clean. What I have experienced with the washer I had that would be the working washer, was clothes that were cleaner than any washer I've ever used. So i'm using the outer tub stater and rotor, springs, dampner's and water pump on my existing to make it an almost new LG washing machine built by me.
BTWuB - All my parts were free and all OEM, as my parts washer I found on Marketplace on FB being offered at no cost.
😂😂😂
The new LG washer is more flimsy, if you can get 10 years usage out of this repair for $350, not bad.
great video! many thanks for it! decision made, buying a new one lol!!
The problem with repairing these is the cost of the parts. You did make some mistakes when taking it apart, but bottom line.. it's better to just replace it.
I had the same experience with less parts. NEVER AGAIN
Add a bead of marine sealant around bearing seal n sit it on shaft to center it. Dont install for 24 hrs
People should be using less sofner more hot washes and leave the door (OPEN) when not in use! I have a lg 8kg turbowash smart machine had it over a year nearly two never had the inside looking like that. Or my last lg intello washer which was 20 years old when it died. Might as well of bought a new machine for all the parts it’s had. But now will probably last Another 5 to 10 years 🙂
I found a new nice lg with steam on clearance from Lowe’s for $262 if yours is this far gone time for the junk pile!
Use the old bearing to pound in the new one
That is not a fun journey. You obviously need a new washer. I was lucky. I tore mine down, replaced the bearings, shocks, tub seal, and water inlet valve in about 6 hours. But mine wasn't in nearly that shape. Sorry.
I’m on my 2nd spider assembly since I bought the machine in 09. If I have a reason to buy a new one, it’s gonna be because the front load machines are unsanitary & disgusting . Taking apart & Fixing the machine doesn’t bother me , however , I will never buy a front load machine ever again for sanitary reasons
Use washing powders that have sodium percarbonate (oxygen based bleach) and TAED (bleach activator) in them and leave the door and draw ajar after the wash and your front loader should stay clean and odour free.
Oxygen bleach kills mould and bacteria as well as breaking down stains, and leaving the door open stops mould growing on the door seal.
I've not had a problem with mould, bacteria, slime, or smells since the 1980's when we tried out liquid detergents and stopped doing weekly boil washes. They don't contain the "oxi-action", because it would break down the other ingredients in the bottle.
See ruclips.net/video/6HnzBS_XQhA/видео.html
We’re you using powdered detergent?
if you dont cut down on your soap you will have the same issue with your new washer
Nearly 18 years on my LG Tromm and my bearing is making noise now. This is further than I wish to dive on it. It may last a week. It may go a other year or two. But my luck I'd do all this work and it would leak. Nope. Pass.
You shouldn't expect the new LG washers to last that long. I had one that lasted 13 years, but the new one I bought in 2018 shredded the bearings in pieces this year. I am thinking about changing brands now.
thanks
for what it's worth, better to buy a new machine. All the parts probably cost you more in the end. The machine is old so god knows what else will fail.
Never use powder washing detergent. Although it works well it’s always high in chloride and very acidic, that’s why your spider is so badly damaged. If you use a good quality liquid detergent you be amazed at how new the spider will look. But… you still have to replace bearings.
I almost exclusively use powder washing detergent, and I leave the door and draw ajar after the wash to let the door seal dry, and when I replaced the bearings in my current machine a few years ago after 10 years of use, the spider was in perfect condition.
But, I've not come across a powder that was other than an alkaline, and I don't recall any containing any chloride.
I tried liquid detergents many years ago in another machine, the machine eventually became smelly and we found mould and slime under the door seal and in the tub etc. I've since read that liquid detergent residue is left coating the innards of the machine after the wash, which retains moisture, promoting bacteria and mould growth and that the moisture from the residue and from the biofilm coating the spider might be one cause of corrosion.
Also, most, if not all, washing machine powders sold in the UK contain an oxygen bleach stain remover (sodium percarbonate and TAED) this is also very effective at killing mould and bacteria and keeps the machine clean.
So, how much money did you spend on parts alone ?
Yes, go get a new one 😂
Let me ask you, how hard was it to get the drive "axle" to come out of the bearing?
LMAO
I am an appliance technician in Miami and I can tell you is not worth it , too much money and time . Unless is under warranty
front load washers use 1/3 the water so you use 1/3 the soap thats why you see soap scum everywhere
No, you need use only special HE soap that is specially formulated for them.
Most of what you think is detergent is actually fabric softener. Liquid fabric softener is the worst thing you can put in a washing machine. It attacks the seals. I've been a tech for quite awhile.
You talk to much. Just get to the point. Cut the story abut the three bears.
Where are YOUR videos? I don't think he talked too much - he talked just enough to have me seriously reconsider doing this bearing job and just get another machine. I have better things to do than to rehab a 16 year old washer that probably has more wrong with it than the OP's machine. And parts for mine are not widely available and the ones available are likely made in China, which reduces the time the machine will last.
How about you just change the channel since you weren't forced to continue watching! Being negative is a choice, and you could stand a lesson or two in that saying...if you don't have anything nice to say just keep your mouth shut and keep it movin!
What he shared is priceless! It tells you don't do this. This is not worth your time and money. If you want to learn how to replace it, this is the wrong video. If you didn't get the point yet, he really tells you that too many things got destroyed and you never going to have a brand new machine