The Kosher Dilemma - Gefilte fish

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Episode of the Dutch TV series "De Koosjere Hamvraag" (The Kosher Dilemma) about the famous/notorious gefilte fish. What is it made from? Why is this alleged poor man's dish so expensive?
    A series by Jigal Krant, directed by Mike Warmels, Camera by Michael Ballak. Producer: Jigal Krant (RTV Krant). Subtitles: Emma Sevitt.

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  • @adamabubakar252
    @adamabubakar252 3 года назад +21

    i don’t know how i ended up here but stayed to the end. now i’m hungry

  • @shtetlcholoycd
    @shtetlcholoycd 5 лет назад +32

    this is funny and clever! could be how Dutch sounds similar to Yiddish and English enough to be understandable but to make the witty remarks even funnier, but loved all the interactions, the investigation, the skepticism. I learned and a laughed so hard, I cried. Keep them coming!

    • @shtetlcholoycd
      @shtetlcholoycd 5 лет назад +5

      OMG the cat

    • @jemoederheetjelmer
      @jemoederheetjelmer 4 месяца назад +2

      Jiddisch is spoken in Amsterdam still

    • @ConanObrien22
      @ConanObrien22 Месяц назад

      2:36 this one funny as hell

    • @thegreatVanitas
      @thegreatVanitas Месяц назад

      You mean yiddish sound like dutch, we were here way before the jews and will be long after them.

    • @JR-mh8vn
      @JR-mh8vn 23 дня назад

      @@jemoederheetjelmer only very sad how the jews in Amsterdam are treated now

  • @cybercheftb
    @cybercheftb 4 года назад +25

    Great video on gefilte fish. As an American chef for over 50 years I was finally able to to see the authentic stuffing of gefilte fish.
    All of the U S. homemade recipes are very similar to Mr. Content but the stuffing of the skin has been omitted in virtually all of them because of the difficulty of the technique. (Especially for home cooks)
    As a chef who has researched and studied the subject and have prepare a "bit" of gefilte fish myself it was good to see the true stuffed version demonstrated.
    I don't know what that "pate" you showed us in the beginning was, but it wasn't gefilte fish..
    American Jews take their gefilte fish very seriously.
    Gefilte fish is on every sater table during the passover holiday.
    70% of yearly sales of the product are during that season and none of it is the "fresh/frozen type you first showed. It is all sold in jars and packed in the stock it was cooked in. Although so much is bought, many many Jewish home kitchens still prepare their own family recipe and each one of them professes to make the best. In fact part of the ritual in many of theses homes during the feast is the rating if the gefilte fish.
    Most recipes call for carp, pike and whitefish and the preparation has many steps and is quite involved .
    If you would like a recipe or anything else on the subject contact me at cybercheftb@hotmail.com
    I will respond to your email requests.

    • @R.N.19
      @R.N.19 Год назад

      At what tempeture do you place it in and for how long Chef?

  • @Elrond_Hubbard_1
    @Elrond_Hubbard_1 17 дней назад +2

    Deli owner: Look how she smiles!
    The fish: 👁🍘👁

  • @pesto12601
    @pesto12601 20 дней назад +3

    That store in Antwerp must feel awful after watching their price be debunked and the guy spitting out their product at the end... and even the cat won't eat it!

  • @Rexini_Kobalt
    @Rexini_Kobalt 11 дней назад

    instantly recognized the thomas newman track and this combination of dutch speaking, strange food, and excellent music means instant follow

  • @sdkid6059
    @sdkid6059 5 лет назад +15

    Outstanding video, I really enjoyed it.
    Have 2 jars of gefilte fish that I am researching what to do with.
    American Country Boy here, now living in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood.

  • @idocare6538
    @idocare6538 4 года назад +10

    The one thing I had read but did not seem covered in this is that when using carp, because they are bottom feeders, they are kept in clean water for a few days to help with the taste. That is why you will see some folks put water in a bathtub or sink and keep them in there for a while before cooking/eating them.
    Other than that - excellent video, I enjoyed the journey.

    • @zackstrunin2213
      @zackstrunin2213 3 года назад +3

      My parents and grandparents always tell me that the bathtub would be occupied by a live carp on Fridays way back in the day

    • @idocare6538
      @idocare6538 3 года назад

      @@zackstrunin2213 Haha so it's true. Cool story Zack. Where did you live that that was a thing?

    • @stoneymorris5366
      @stoneymorris5366 Год назад +1

      My bubbie did that! She lived in Roxbury MA .

    • @N3mdraz
      @N3mdraz 25 дней назад

      We have alot of carp here around Amsterdam and none of us eat it because it has alot of fish bones, so we can get it freshly caught

  • @m.m.m.42
    @m.m.m.42 5 лет назад +16

    This would have been much better if it included more information, like the difference between the kinds of gefilte fish that are prepared traditionally. Galitzianer (with sugar) and Litvak (with pepper) gefilte fish is quite different, and particularly Ashkenazi populations affected by WWII developed a different "economical" version that included matzo meal.

    • @tristanpepper792
      @tristanpepper792 5 лет назад +6

      As a gentile this is easily one of the most interesting things I've read about Jewish food culture. The idea that there is a distinct style of food made specifically by Jews affect by the war. This is super interesting.

  • @Traderjoe
    @Traderjoe 8 месяцев назад +3

    I am catholic, but used to work in high school in a Jewish supermarket as a stock boy and floor attendant and I came in one day and an entire shelf of gefilte fish had collapsed overnight and I was met with a knee high pile of slimy broken glass and broth and I had to glean it up. I was there with a shovel and giant garbage cans with plastic liners shoveling this stuff for hours. It was slippery and stunk from the mix and dangerous from all the glass. It traumatized me and I remember vomiting into the dumpster from it.

  • @jazztocountry1047
    @jazztocountry1047 3 года назад +6

    It's not such a cheap fish because you throw out the head, tail, bones, guts, etc. And then there is the facility cost, labor cost, distribution cost and retailer overhead to add on.
    Carp is one of hardest fish to bone.

    • @JstAnotherUTuber
      @JstAnotherUTuber 3 года назад +1

      You sound like a typical businessman!

    • @christopherfelser
      @christopherfelser 5 месяцев назад +1

      This was made with hake, a cheap and plentiful saltwater fish. 11.25 euros seems like highway robbery as this fish sells in the us at less than 10 usd a pound for filet.

  • @RebMordechaiReviews
    @RebMordechaiReviews 3 года назад +9

    Ha Ha. You certainly went to a lot of trouble to find out something you could have looked up on Google. Yes, Gefilte Fish is traditionally made of Carp but it can also be made from any fish or combination. For instance, here in Israel, we make it from Carp and Nile Perch to give it a slightly pinky colour. Also, most of us don't start with a whole fish but buy 2 kg of ready minced fish. I use 1kg of Carp and 1kg Nile Perch, but have on occasions used Salmon and it comes out really well.
    We also make them into balls.
    To the fish I add two large blended onions and add more dried onion flakes.
    2-3 Eggs.
    Matza Meal to bind. (Wet your hands. When you can make a ball with wet hands then that's enough Matza Meal)
    Salt, Pepper.
    Some add some grated carrot.
    Now, once made into balls, I usually boil half of the mixture and fry the other half.
    So on Shabbat I serve a choice of boiled and fried Gelfilte Fish balls.

    • @jondavidmcnabb
      @jondavidmcnabb 2 года назад

      I will definitely be using your knowledge for Passover 2023!!! Thank you!!!

    • @AirLancer
      @AirLancer Год назад +2

      If they did that they wouldn't have had a TV show...

  • @MsBerna
    @MsBerna 4 года назад +15

    That was such an interesting video and topic, learned not to eat the fish pattie.

  • @KHANPHOTO1
    @KHANPHOTO1 29 дней назад

    Used to know some country folks here in USA that made fish cakes out of freshwater sucker meat in the early spring when the flesh was still firm. Nothing I would ever harvest and it was definitely an acquired taste but the similarities to gefilte fish dish are eye opening. Poor people all used the same type of recipes to add protein to their diets and those traditions have stayed with us regardless of current status. Chinese fish balls are another one . All seem like a sort of hamburger helper for fish meat to increase taste of low quality fish and make it go further.

  • @thihal123
    @thihal123 2 года назад +2

    Gefilte fish is not so different from fish balls you find in East Asia. It’s ground up fish added with seasoning. Gefilte fish is mixed with matzo meal. East Asian fish balls aren’t usually mixed with a starch but can be.

  • @JaNieja-m9q
    @JaNieja-m9q 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'm part Jewish and from Northern Ontario, we have trout, pickerel and pike pâté and it is traditional to serve in the skin of a cooked fish.

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 19 дней назад

    At least some decades ago, the good gefilte fish was made from "whitefish and pike". The lower grade stuff was made from carp. But now, the cheap stuff seems to be made from tilapia and I've not seen the whitefish and pike kind for, well, decades.

  • @mariogomez-li4tr
    @mariogomez-li4tr 3 года назад +4

    10:30 wtf ? How dutchs speakers pronounce that !!

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 4 года назад +2

    I desired to work up a top miso soup game, and I did it. I make the best damn miso soup ... now I want to work up a star gefilte fish game.

  • @dobishs
    @dobishs 4 года назад +4

    Great video but Please, Where's the recipe?
    What happened is simple. It was to hard to make for the modern man or woman. It was commercialized and completely changed like many other things.

  • @howardjohnson2138
    @howardjohnson2138 Год назад +2

    I am not Jewish and have never had the real thing, but eat it whenever it is offered. First I ever had was when my Father brought home Kosher C-Rations from Grafenwöhr Germany when Passover had taken place during the United States Army Training Cycle. I really like it, but would love to at least try the real thing. Thanks

  • @Fiawordweaver
    @Fiawordweaver Месяц назад

    Thank you. Very interesting 🎉

  • @elliottnelson1156
    @elliottnelson1156 8 месяцев назад +2

    So bogus that dude tried to tell him it was expensive fish 😂

    • @JR-mh8vn
      @JR-mh8vn 23 дня назад

      got to make some money 🤣🤣

  • @moisheblumenthal1655
    @moisheblumenthal1655 Год назад +1

    He did not serve that in the Tel Aviv Hilton no way

  • @brt5273
    @brt5273 Месяц назад

    And I thought I was so clever learning to make from scratch the same as they sell in the jars😂
    It's tasty though...

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont 4 года назад +15

    swindling each other, hahahha CLASSIC!

  • @jemoederheetjelmer
    @jemoederheetjelmer 4 месяца назад

    Houd je haaks Jigal, je bent een topper!

  • @maremge
    @maremge 4 года назад +2

    Erg goede video, eindelijk weet ik hoe de echte gefilte fisch gemaakt wordt :-)

  • @carlosmoreno9094
    @carlosmoreno9094 4 года назад +3

    Wow that was nice, I bought some gefilte fish in a jar just to try , but after this video I’m looking forward to taste the original recipe , beautiful video the home made one looks real good , 👌🏾

  • @meepenjaap7999
    @meepenjaap7999 Год назад

    Very fun and informative video. I was a little surprised at the ginger added to the final dish.

  • @deerfish3000
    @deerfish3000 4 года назад +6

    I used to fish for carp back in the day. They put up a hell of a fight, but I sure as hell wouldn't eat one. Bottom feeders eat anything which means you eat what THEY eat. Blech! 🤢

    • @willemveraqiuemontepoo9269
      @willemveraqiuemontepoo9269 3 года назад +1

      Does that mean you eat grass when eating steak? Or sunlight when eating cabbage?

    • @deerfish3000
      @deerfish3000 3 года назад +1

      @@willemveraqiuemontepoo9269 In a roundabout way, I suppose.

    • @David-ex6hv
      @David-ex6hv 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, I don't think carp is a clean fish like sardines are. I'm pretty sure clean fish in the bible has to have shedding scales. Like when you rub your finger against its skin the scales should easily come off.

  • @NLYS27
    @NLYS27 Год назад

    And just like that thousand of people were left with massive craving and desire. Too cook and eat homemade Gefilte Fish.

  • @markigomez
    @markigomez 4 года назад +1

    Best video I've seen over the topic. Very informative and very well prepared. I learned a lot Thank you!

  • @alexcarter8807
    @alexcarter8807 19 дней назад

    Actually caviar is Kosher as long as it's from a Kosher fish. So there.

  • @thewholerabbit936
    @thewholerabbit936 2 года назад

    What a great video.

  • @moshemoskovits1188
    @moshemoskovits1188 3 года назад +2

    With all my respect, but the way Eli Content did is definitely nót the Gefilte Fish which I know! My mothers gefilte fish (as most Easter Jewish mothers did) where whole slices (moten) of Carp and in the empty cleaned out space there comes the ground fish and is cooked together. That’s Gefilte fish. You fill the fish, nót the hide of the fish.

  • @Igor_Itkin
    @Igor_Itkin 4 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @captainsaveatone
    @captainsaveatone 4 года назад

    Thank you

  • @MrLanternland
    @MrLanternland Месяц назад

    I bought a jar of g fish at Walmart and find it quite tasty. Is it OK to drink the tasty liquid it's in too? I did. But my question is this: u r eating it with purple horseradish and i also read that's the way to do it, but they only sold white horseradish in the Wal. - whew powerful stuff! - so is there a way for me to turn the white h. into purple h.?

  • @sterlingbadon9891
    @sterlingbadon9891 3 года назад

    Great Video.

  • @jeffglanstein4489
    @jeffglanstein4489 4 года назад +1

    "Gefilte" means "filled." So Eli's fish is really gefilte. However there are other recipes that are nice, also. This was a fun video, but it is limited. The best thing is to go to lots of different families and taste their different types of cooking. Was nice to be a bachor in those days.

  • @omerlibchik3281
    @omerlibchik3281 5 лет назад

    Wonderful video! It should be noted, as Murray Moss remarked already, that the fish has several regional variants, some really sweet and some less. However, always from Carp. Also, getting the stuffing is not so hard, so if you skip the skin wrapping part it's not such a big deal and tastes almost the same.

  • @NACHALCHAIM
    @NACHALCHAIM 2 года назад

    In America, the good gefilta fish is made from a combination of whitefish and pike. Carp gefilta fish is cheap lower quality. The best (store bought) gefilta fish is prepared but unseasoned and uncooked. In that manner, the cook can add the seasonings she likes such as pepper or sweet when the loaf of fish is cooking. Ready fish in a jar is usually very low quality, especially if it is the carp variety.

    • @meepenjaap7999
      @meepenjaap7999 Год назад

      Everything you say is true. Now convince a old world bobe. She might cook it but she will shake her head 'no' and grumble the whole time she is making it. That is why it will still be good.

  • @zeiseleh
    @zeiseleh 4 года назад +1

    Wow this video was an eye opener! I grew up eating the jarred and frozen gefilte fish. I find the jarred kind so gross! The kind of usually find in the freezer section shaped into a sausage needs to be thawed out and tastes way better cooked in a little liquid with some vegetables, similar to a broth like Eli made. I would love to attempt to make a "homemade from scratch" version of this though.

  • @elia.8993
    @elia.8993 4 года назад +6

    Ashkenazi food looks so boring...

  • @dietlindvonhohenwald448
    @dietlindvonhohenwald448 4 года назад

    So interesting.

  • @Appophust
    @Appophust 4 месяца назад

    Gefilte looks delicious.

  • @SamitShahzad
    @SamitShahzad Час назад

    What kind of rübbsïh language they're speaking

  • @neffew9351
    @neffew9351 3 года назад +2

    🗣Ge-🗣Fil-🗣Te 🗣FISH!!

  • @knoopsylvia
    @knoopsylvia 4 месяца назад

  • @AxxinTheSupernova
    @AxxinTheSupernova 2 года назад

    The face I make when I bite into and start chewing something delicious does not look like his face at 1:21

  • @akudanmuzik6401
    @akudanmuzik6401 3 года назад +1

    Chris tucker rush hour 2...scene on plane

    • @neffew9351
      @neffew9351 3 года назад +1

      🗣GE-🗣Fil-🗣Te 🗣FISH!!!

  • @plonialmoni4232
    @plonialmoni4232 2 года назад +1

    It’s not against Jewish tradition to use salt water fish lol

  • @mga2899
    @mga2899 3 года назад

    Granny made gefilte fish. Best thing she made, and it wasn't all that good.

  • @basiliocruz9931
    @basiliocruz9931 Месяц назад

    The man said every Jew knows what’s in gefilte fish. Quit frontin and study up on the Torah my boy

  • @IWH777
    @IWH777 3 года назад

    I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE RECIPE THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAD THAT MADE THE REAL GIFILTE FISH
    IT SOUNDS MAGNIFICENT.... I WOULD DEARLY LOVE TO TRY MY HAND AT IT....
    SIGHHHHHHH

  • @SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so
    @SirWhiteRabbit-gr5so 6 месяцев назад

    In America, I think they use Whitefish.

  • @PurpleAmiga
    @PurpleAmiga 2 года назад

    Relleno

  • @mmkuyt
    @mmkuyt Год назад

    heek = haddock

  • @koen7697
    @koen7697 3 года назад

    Was het lekker Jigal? Haha 😄.

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 4 года назад

    What is Gefilte fish?...you dont want to know. Stick with cornbeef on rye or pastrami sandwiches.

  • @crakkbone
    @crakkbone Месяц назад +2

    These Jews are hilarious. Silly Jews. Jewin’ it up Jew style.

  • @Bluecrabsandsushi
    @Bluecrabsandsushi 2 года назад +1

    Lol they're just ripping people off

  • @hamoudi_d
    @hamoudi_d 3 года назад +1

    so eating beautyful girls is kosher.. Good to know! 😂

  • @Vanguardkl
    @Vanguardkl 3 года назад

    Interesting video and channel. First heard about this on Rush Hour and finally decided to learn. Hi from Malaysia where we'll never eat this i don't think it looks great probably one of worst looking dishes I've seen in my life

    • @alexmumblat3665
      @alexmumblat3665 2 года назад

      I'm from Malaysia (married a Jew) and make a stuffed whole, gefilte fish. I use bass because I can't deal with the ugly and bony carp and make it somewhat spicy (pepper, garlic, ginger) I keep the head attached and bake it in oven in water bath. Served, it looks like an Asian whole fish dish.

  • @michelley9203
    @michelley9203 5 лет назад

    Is gefilte fish in the bible?

    • @Jigal-Krant
      @Jigal-Krant  5 лет назад +1

      Nope 🤣

    • @m.m.m.42
      @m.m.m.42 5 лет назад +4

      small little mimi mind there's very little about Jewish tradition in the Bible... It's one of the reasons Judaism is an ethnoreligion. The customs and traditions have been passed down for generation start generation, which are also different depending on which of the Jewish diaspora one belongs.

    • @michelley9203
      @michelley9203 5 лет назад

      @@m.m.m.42 Thanks

    • @bobmalack481
      @bobmalack481 4 года назад

      If it is...stay away.

  • @WAR-DAMN-EAGLE
    @WAR-DAMN-EAGLE 2 года назад +2

    Of course he's trying to haggle and complaining about the price... So predictable!!! 💰😂🤣🤣

  • @SarahLB22
    @SarahLB22 2 года назад

    Dit klink heerlik.

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 4 года назад +1

    Looks like the U.S. introduced invasive species 'Snakehead'..Yuck, phooey, Oy!! Hey nudnik, take a walk on the wild side, take a walk down Fairfax..

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 4 года назад

    Carp and 'whitefish'...discusting...

  • @basiliocruz9931
    @basiliocruz9931 Месяц назад +3

    Halfway into this video… doesn’t help the cause that this man is haggling with very shop he visits lmao. Free Palestine. I’m sure every on of these shop employees would agree after an interaction with this man hahaha

    • @basiliocruz9931
      @basiliocruz9931 Месяц назад +3

      He even realizes other Jews are jewing him out for higher prices on cheaper ingredients. DUDE. You’re not helping the cause. This makes it look terrible

    • @airpoelie
      @airpoelie 24 дня назад

      Get lost

  • @priceandpride
    @priceandpride 3 года назад

    He walked out of that store and immediately called the Jew a sneaky cheat

  • @daddyc872
    @daddyc872 2 года назад

    At this time in the video, 15:43, the main point is described in one or two sentences.