No ONE Understands Evangelion ... Until NOW!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Evangelion EXPLAINED from a psychological perspective...ALL ANSWERS REVEALED!!!
Ko-fi (donation): ko-fi.com/tran...
MAL: myanimelist.ne...
Twitter: / tranquildionys1
Evangelion mind-fudged anime fans from Japan to the U.S.--OF--A. So sit you 'A' down and watch the analysis of the (Greatest?) anime of all time. Shinji axs like a 'B' -- if you know what I mean -- but it's 'K,' cuz he personifies nihilism and stuff. End of evangelion was a serious drug trip, I called my doctor to make sure I'd be sober enough to go to work the next day...I still called in sick. Neon Genesis Evangelion is some crazy name, does it have a deeper meaning -- or is Anno on the sauce again? Evangelion had a lot of crosses, mecha robots, and anime moments (you know what I'm talking about). Misato's tits, though. Shinji's depression, dough. Gendou peak dad! How disgusting; or is it! YES, it is. BUT WAIT... Dat OP is pretty sick, though. Fly me to the Moon was great, too. Komm Susser Tod -- in all seriousness -- is fantastic!
#Evangelion #Evaexplained #Endofeva
Evangelion 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time Review is out now!!
ruclips.net/video/D8MuhEgpWo8/видео.html
Hideaki anno is agnostic so adam eve angels and now a mari iscariotes!!!
This video should have atleast 10 million views... wth.
@@mattb6646 Too many informations and many of it metaphysical or even spiritual u can say. Not veryone can follow that.
when doing analysis with japanese modern fictions in manga/anime and video games that have mythical and supranatural elements, most westerners tend to miss one important foundation that came from the authors, that is the religious background in japanese society itself, and for that people need to have some understanding of east asian religions and philosophical thoughts as well, mainly things like buddhism, shintoism and confucianism...
I think in fact, that's where many of the themes in manga/anime that deals with metaphysical comes from, rather than the jungian psychological stuffs that comes from the west.
@@Napoleonic_S Totaly agree even here in evangelion where symbolism is mostly christian I believe backround connections and understanding of those depicted christian symbols are influenced by japanese traditions and religions.
I believe that everyones perception is influenced by culture and religion that one grew up in.
Evangelion is about why penguins read newspapers.
Yup
kowalski analysis.
How do we not know that all of Eva was just the fever dream of the fish deprived penguin wishing death on his owners.
They're black and white, and read all over?
@@ruberxwibebadhi plot twist: Pen Pen is either Manfreddy or Johnson, who are the lost members of Penguins of Madagascar group.
You used images from the rebuild.
Conclusion and solution be a masochi
I am well aware that (most probably) my recomendation is not the favorite genre of your viewers (and yours, maybe) but considering that Shoujo Kakumei Utena is like the shoujo Evangelion, would you consider a review about it? Both the movie and the series leaves a "wtf did I just watch?!" in the viewer. The artwork is gorgeous and the symbology/psychology exquisite.
Wow...great job!!
Evangelion is literally about being honest and loving yourself because no one will do it for you.
Eva nearly drove me to suicide.
Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since.
Evangelion is nothing but a bright shining lie. There is no instant cure for depression as so many on RUclips and Reddit claimed and praised this series to be. I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive. Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate this series which people treat larger than life, because of how much pain it resurfaces.
Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up living. It still haunts me to this day.
Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed to idolize, and I beat myself further for failing to worship what they call praiseworthy, I forced myself to watch a show that reminded me of nothing but pain just so I wouldn’t be alone anymore, I was willing to sacrifice my individuality for some company amidst the isolation of the pandemic.
But it only spiraled me deeper into depression, which I’ve been struggling with for over a year now.
I just want Shinji to be happy, so this past self of mine can be laid to rest once more. I’m afraid to decouple myself from him after losing my friend to suicide, which Eva made me feel responsible for, especially when I saw Shinji kill Kaworu, of which I fail to understand how anyone can call it praiseworthy. Until then, I feel nothing else matters.
But finally, with 3.0+1.0 released, I can rest easy knowing that Shinji has finally reached the light at the end of the tunnel. Evangelion is finished, and I want it to remain that way. No one should have to give up their life to learn their life has meaning. No one. As a believer in an afterlife, I find the fact the people can come back from LCL as offensive, especially when my friend died. You can never come back from death. But that’s what Eva teaches.
Just like Asuka in episode 23, Eva brings up too many painful memories for me to enjoy. And I hated myself for that because others said it cured them of their depression, but it was all I lie, one I nearly threw away my entire life for.
And that’s why I’m afraid of Eva.
@@hawkeyenextgen7117 Man, I hope you are doing well now. I also hope that we are getting some treatment, medical or psychological, to make all this things a little bit easier to handle. I have know ideia how strong your struggles are. But I can say that you are really brave to be able to realize all those things and speek about them on the internet.
I wish you good healhty and happiness. Even though I have no ideia how to help you to achieve that, it is what I wish for you, from the bottom of my heart.
no
@@hawkeyenextgen7117 hope your doing well
Or to just be content with yourself and be active and useful enough to justify it. And accept the miseries of life and improve in spite of it.
Vin Diesel: "Evangelion is about family"
Random dark humor joke:
The guy who stole my diary just died. *My thoughts are with his family*
"It's about drive !"
@@super-copter27 wrong guy
@@israelmcclain8097 underrated.
Family who doesnt love you.
Dude, you fucking nailed it.
Thanks, brother!
I've watched your Dues Ex and GitS videos, and they are exceptional!
@@BerserkDude Thanks, dude.
Whoa my two favorite youtubers in the same comment section. IS THIS A COLLAB I SEE MEYBE!?!
I love your content max
oh hey there, you've done a lot for me, I am a person with aspergers and I have learned a lot from both you and evangelion!
How many ppl watched this video because of max derrat
Me 😂
me: *studied gnosticism for a few years* "yea this all checks out"
also me: "big robot go brrr"
Ah... so I wasn’t the only one. ;)
@@BerserkDude 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao agree
Except Eva is Freudian post-modernist smattering embellished by religious symbolism. Nothing gnostic about it.
thank you, I majored in philosophy and religious studies and concepts seem to be cherry picked to suit assumptions almost as if they started at the conclusion and worked backwards to fit that narrative while ignoring contradicting views brought up for example like niche vs God and niche is the most obvious reference and it makes sense you used jung instead of freud bc jung was a Christian psychologist so it better suits the narrative here instead of his teacher frued who seems to have greater impact on the themes conveyed in this work.
Tranquil: "...it makes perfect sense."
Everyone: "What?"
Anno: "What?"
evangelion was less confusing that this
This comment is more confusing tbh
If it was less confusing, then you didn't even begin to understand it
😂
Because Evangelion isn't deep; the religious symbolism is literally only there for embellishment.
@@alternateperson6600 Until you realize where the inspiration for the subplot really comes from.
i think its also interesting to note:
in the final scene, shinji chokes asuka which is an aggressive, masculine act
then asuka caresses shinji's face which is a gentle, feminine act
these are the opposite behaviors of how they have acted through the whole show
then right after, shinji cries and asuka insults him, showing that they each have reached some balance of anima and animus
Him stangling Asuka could also be interpreted as him still holding animosity to his animus and Asuka responding with disgusting could still be her being animonous to her anima
Yes! That's exactly what I thought when I rewatched the movie.
FINALLY someone else sees it! The reason that they always wanted to be together but couldn't find out how was partially do to the masculine/feminine dichotomy not working correctly. Asuka wanted Shinji to be masculine and stronger, to hold her (Ex: ep. 22), but Shinji was afraid of Asuka due to her always acting so masculine and aggressive towards him. Obviously it's deeper than that and ties to their pasts, but that's part of it.
It's not a positive thing that he strangles her and shows that he is still immature and lacks control of his masculine urges. He is still immature like a child and resorts to acts of violence to express his withheld masculine urges rather than using his words. While I definitely believe Shinji to have gone through much good character development, I do not consider his choking of Asuka to be a part of it, rather a relapse to bad insecure behavior. A last immature act of need for reassurance before his maturity and accept of his reality and surroundings. I look at the choking as his first response to being back in reality as a last reaction of frustration upon leaving the instrumentality project, he had already confronted his emotions in his mind, while in the LCL, but upon entering the beach was his first time since where he was required to now also act on his thinking and have a relationship with another person, why he emmidiately relapses into bad behavior, as he is immediately reminded of his reasons for disliking people. But I also think he neede reassurance that Asuka was, in fact, real. I don't believe in Jung or Jungtards. It is a very faulty and, today, irrelevant, inconsistent and undefinitive form of psychoanalysis.
@@SkaevsYou don't have to believe in Jung, is just what the film tries to portray since it is influence by jung's work
Honestly one of the best analysis of the show yet... Thank you so much for this :)
Thanks for watching!
Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since.
This series is nothing but a bright shining lie. There is no instant cure for depression as so many on RUclips and Reddit claimed and praised this series to be. I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive. Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate this series which people treat larger than life, because of how much pain it resurfaces.
Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up living. It still haunts me to this day.
I sought emotional refuge in the Evangelion fandom on Discord. Because the series addresses the cost of trauma I hoped they would take me seriously. They didn’t. Instead they mocked my mental health and even created a rumor of my past to get me banned off almost all the servers, and spiraling me further down the rabbit hole.
Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed cured them of their depression.
Agreed
Video's like this is why I still believe to this day Evangelion is one of the most important anime ever produced. What other work of animation can create such in depth psychological analysis from its audience. Every person's take on this work is a mirror into the views and feelings of the viewer themselves. You can actually learn alot about a person just from their takeaway from watching the series. Some only see giant robots and explosions, others see a twisted introspective view into the psyche of the series main protagonists. I enjoyed this psychological analysis of the work known as Neon Genesis Evangelion.
I'd push that to 'in all of media' personally, at least modern media.
Bruh I legit think evangelion is better than breaking bad. There are very few series that can match up to that level of writing in my opinion.
@@sprawlz6466 I've been rewatching the Sapranos, it hits so many of the same ideas and themes. They pair very well.
@@itstartedinmud yeah I could see that. They both deal with psychology of mentally ill people, their interactions with friends and family, and their attitude towards the world. The Sopranos covers the same stuff but I think it goes a different route. I’d say it’s about equal with Eva in terms of writing, or maybe even slightly better. Both are in my top 3 favorite series of all time actually.
@@sprawlz6466 They definitely go different routes, just the fact that Tony has become an adult changes the approach. That would be like if Shinji stopped running and eventually took over NERV from his father, he'd still be fucked up but it would be in the past. And of course Shinjis mother is gone... ish, that's a big difference.
Shinji is also mars because if you ignore all the meta-textual psychoanalysis, He is a literal CHILD SOLDIER FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST GIANT SPACE ALIENS AND MOSTLY DOING IT SINGLE HANDEDLY With the occasional help of 2 other people who primarily just provide backup. so uhhhhh yeah.
How do we replicate this feelings?
Also gotta give you commendation. I watch your vids usually while I am on the night shift of a very boring job. You keep my sanity alive in the dark whispers of emptyness at 5am...
Getting paid and watching YT videos, sounds like a good gig.
Are you a security guard?
@@BerserkDude Nope, but closest thing. I mostly do night shifts on a Hotel Reception. Basically sit and act like a guard. Thankfully it is only a summer job.
the religious imagery goes so incredibly deep i just cannot believe it was done solely "to look cool"
Hideaki Anno straight trolling😂
@@GlocklnMyPurse it's not even Christian. It's Gnostic imagery. Little bit of alchemy and kabbalah. People in Japan are much more well read than most of us in the west
perhaps they meant that the show doesn't say anything profound about christianity itself and only uses it as symbolism to explore more human concepts. Maybe saying that a divisive topic like religion is essential to the show isn't good marketing, or maybe Anno was just trolling after all.
Rabbit holes tend to get deeper when you start digging. It's all in your head.
@@sausageman4086 It's really not. The lore of the original tv run and EoE is literally just gnostic cosmology
I think your interpretation is absolutely awful for a huge number of reasons and I challenge you to make some sort of explanation for sandbox sequence and any of quickening or thrice upon a time.
also nice that you just completely barely mention rei at all in this video. guess shes just a plot point. no reason why anno decided to make her a main character... none at all... all about shinji and asuka being opposites... wonder what u think about mari too
With regards to Mari the video is talking just about original show/EoE (while ignoring duality in that movie and episodes 25 & 26).
In other aspect I agree with you. While it make sense to look at show throw lenses of psychoanalisis of Freud and Jung and abrahamic mythology it´s a stratch treat these thing as absolute selfevident truth like the video do.
Bear in mind that Japan is not, has never been, a christian country. When thinkers like Jung point to the Bible as a blueprint for human thought, they are working in a Western canon. Also Jung lived in a time / place when Christianity was near ubiquitous so of course the Bible would be foundational for the psych of just about everyone he knew. We can take that quote as more simple observation than biblical endorsement.
Anno would have interfaced with christian models from a distance. Though I think it’s fair to say he went a little deeper than “cool, distinct aesthetic”, it is strange to use Christian mysticism itself to unpack Eva.
Anno obviously pulled from classic psychologists like Jung, but I think he cared about them in so far that they explained behaviors, patterns, problems, and pointed towards a way out.
It’s important to look at what Anno emphasizes. He talks complex ideas, but simple values. I think he would view mysticism, and Peterson-esque evaluations of the world, as a distraction from what matters (small and domestic things, ultimately).
imo Evangelion’s strength was how it immersed us in Shinji. And how it outrageously turned a toy commercial into the raw stuff of life. Walking through the horror of self acceptance and stunted psyches.
Maybe I’m trying to say that what distinguishes Anno as an auteur (and Eva as art) is pretty unglamorous?
I think you can use almost any ancient mythos to unpack Eva. Perhaps Anno was familiar with the archetypes in religions more commonly associated with Japan. It's my belief now that many of the stories that are in the bible are much much older. Every religion is a unique race of people expressing cosmic truth. Or if you really want to get out there, every religion had a common ancestor. Then the fact that he utilized Christian imagery to me means it's the best mythos to unpack Eva.
@@HeavyReign12 I don't wanna yuck your yum, but my guess is that you've missed the point.
Eva deals with people and sickness. The lore is a backdrop
@@shakugan73 I'm going to go with Anno on the idea that this is all up for interpretation. Most artists shy away from explicitly saying why or what they made. I don't know if I correctly voiced my opinion, I know what Eva is about per se in the since it's a reflection of our own commoner struggles. But Shinji's struggles are expanded to at a biblical level. Isn't that what many religious stories are in holy books? Metaphors for our earthly and psychological struggles? I give Anno the genius card in the fact that he was able to incorporate the lore with the "message" of Eva. You could argue any story is about some sort of issue and the lore is the back drop, that's basically every story. It's the same stories told over and over. What I meant with my comment is for whatever reason, Anno used a western/Abrahamic mythos to tell his story. I'm saying all religions are very similar in their archetypes, the whole collective unconscious thing. Anno is probably familiar with other eastern religions that use similar archetypes. But you're saying it's strange to use the mythos that Anno used to tell his story as a way to unpack the themes of the show. I'm saying I disagree. I know Eva is about it's characters, which every story is? Seems weird to clarify it this time.
I'm not sure why so many are so quick to shoot any of this stuff down. Like the idea that the lore can be incorporated into the shows message and that Anno just willy nilly used religious symbolism.
I personally have never felt more understood by another human being than when I watched Eva. Maybe I don't have a collective correct interpretation of the story, but the show means the world to me and I believe that Anno is either a genius or incredibly lucky in his use of symbolism. Now with that said, I don't disagree with everything you said, I just think if we're going to do a deep dive like this video did, then the symbolism in the show is the best option there is.
@@HeavyReign12 Glad the show also resonated for you. Regardless of who is “right” here, we can agree on its quality.
As a big art buff, I hesitate to interpret through a heavy lens like Christian mysticism because I think it can retroactively color the work. This video recontextualizes Eva, by my view, using many (many) assumptions.
(full disclosure, i find that a lot of the ideas / traditions that he mentioned boil down to pretty reductive and reactionary thinking. I don’t really like to see Eva associated with that either)
,,, i agree that good stories match their lore and their themes. I also think the huge, conspiratorial takes can divert attention from those themes. And I think it’s very likely Eva is not a “good story” so much as it is a good piece of art
@@shakugan73 I mean he never did disagree with you, you said he didn't what it was about.
I dont know if Hideki Ano is really such a genious to think into all this stuff in such a perfect and methodical way or we are all just over thinking this stuff to a ridiculous and exagerated state.
The guy just won't explain it to us so it up to us to interpret it even though it could lead to rabbit hole lmao 😂
it's the latter. Jungian analysis is a field of study that self-perpetuates - it's so broad and espouses such an encompassing worldview that you can force *anything* to be a secret gnostic parable. the very idea of a collective unconscious is unfalsifiable and self-affirming, because any argument against it can be rationalised as an expression of the unconscious. no doubt, some of these allusions are intentional, and some of them may have cropped up unintentionally, but it's not through a "collective unconscious", just passive influence. humans are self-similar, so we share similar traits, but Jungian psychology actively ignores numerous counter examples of faiths, traditions, and beliefs that don't support its structure. gnostic and jungiang practitioners constantly seek out evidence to further their belief in that framework
The name is what really sticks out to me, it validates the christian themes and the use of its imagery. I do believe he is just an amazing writer.
That's what makes art more important than what the author intended.
Its about the interpretation anyway
can you go deeper i need a 6 hour lecture on the psychological allegory of Evangelion
But do the words need to make sense in sequence? I mean, 6 hours of lorem ipsum would be just as popular :D
This anime is so biazarre I really want to find out more about it.
Evangelion is the definition of I don't need sleep i need answers.
I hated this anime at first. Now I’m intrigued
@@bdabroad
No need to hate. It is way more complicated.
Shinjis Bizarre Emotional Breakdown
If this is a massive over analysis then holy fuck Anno is a genius.
One of the scenes that stands out to me is when Shinji in Unit-01 acts much more combative in an act to "prove himself" to Asuka and everyone else and as a result he is literally engulfed by a shadow I remember watching it and just being like "that's such a good Jungian image"
You missed that EVAs are maternal figures derived from Adam. AKA Eve who was taken from Adam's rib. EVA = Eve. The mother of all mankind.
You don't need to go as far as Gnosticism to understand that LCL is embryonic fluid. EVA pilots are fulfilling the Oedipal myth as they pilot it. When the EVA went berserk, Shinji returned to the unconscious and literally met his mother again.
You can intuit these symbolic structures just by watching the show.
Btw Eva is what german christians call eve.
@@desotaku5202
Yeah that's part of the maternal symbolism.
The most interesting part of all of this is that all those parallels to Jungian theory are most likely fully organic and not planned at all since the show's plot was created kinda on the spot episode by episode, that goes to show the real emergence of uncounscious symbols and mythology on the plot. Same unplanned "unconscious" proccess of creating can be seen in Majora's mask per example (some sequences were recreations of the producer's dreams) or of course, to a much higher extent on stuff such as Thus Spoke Zarathustra or the Red Book.
Like kentaro muira(don't know if i spell that correctly) way of creating berserk."im just doodling along and let my unconsious take care the rest" something like that in an interview i found with hin
that's pretty insane to think about.
You made it so much more confusing then it actually is and that is the fucking crazy part. You need to get out more and actually enjoy socializing, this was some incredibly extreme attempt to solve some problem that doesn't exist.
It exist now
Ah yes, insult the uploader even though he covered thorough and complex topics that made linear comparisons to the show. That was some epic self projection tho, nice attempt 👍
This video sounded like a Martin Cabello III rant
Don´t know who this Cabello dude is but rant it was indeed. Especially when astrology comes into place.
"If you're gonna do it do it now, if you don't then leave"
-soms dad 2015
I feel dumb... please tell me all the subjects of study that you used in this video please because I hope to write something as good as Evangelion one day and I hope to understand the self and the principles outlined in religions and the original sciences
Gnosticism
-Nag Hammadi Library
-gnosticismexplained.org
-The Bible
Carl Jung
-Aion (gives an introduction to Shadow, Self, Anima/Animus & Gnosticism)
-Jung discusses gnosticism intermittently in numerous books in his CW, “Ctrl+F” is useful in this regard.
Philosophy:
-Nietzsche (Thus Spoke Zarathustra)
-Camus (The Myth of Sisyphus)
-Kierkegaard (The Sickness Unto Death)
You can branch out in any direction you feel from there, but this should provide solid footing to begin your analysis. Have fun!
@@BerserkDude thank you🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
What's the angel you talk about 'lalel' ? Would love to read more about that
The actual show is more about the surrounding lore. That can far better explain the reasoning behind the characters actions. Not Carl Jung.
I think it makes perfect sense to represent Shinji as Mars (God of War) since Shinji is our "hero" or the hero of the story, hence he must have to go through the hero's journey in order to become who he really is (hence having to incorporate his shadow/unconsciousness).
Very good analysis indeed, Thank you !!
Damn bro, you started this video with a fapping joke and then gave us a new way to look at evangelion
The planets are wrong. Farher is Jupiter, mother is Earth, Asuka is Venus, Shinji is Mars and Rei is the moon
Their isn't just Christian imagery, theirs arguably more Kabbalist symbiology then anything else. The actual ideas at the core are post-Cristian Nietzschean and Jungian. Trying to project a Christian ideology onto it deeply flawed.
Very good analysis. I might suggest reading Sanford L Drob’s ‘ Symbols of the Kabbalah: Philosophical and Psychological Perspectives’ and ‘ Kabbalistic Metaphors: Jewish Mystical Themes in Ancient and Modern Thought’ which contain a treasure trove of information on how the Kabbalah, the Christian Kabbalah and Gnosticism are all part of ancient man’s attempt to develop an understanding of the human psyche using neo-plantonic philosophy, amongst other fascinating topics (the two books act as companions to each other and make many references to one another). If you are looking for more of a comparative philosophy / psychology / religion covering of the topic, Kabbalistic Metaphors is probably the book to start with. If you want more of a Jungian psychological deep dive into the Kabbalah, Symbols of the Kabbalah covers that aspect.
When you mention Asuka and Shinji as Yin and Yang / two complementary personalities seeking reunification I am very much reminded of coincidentia oppositorum or the coincidence (unity) of opposites which plays a heavy part in the Lurianic Kabbalah as the reunification of the divine self through the self actualization of the individual (tikkun ha olam); an effort to restore divine order / reunify the mind of God, who after contracting divine ego (tzimtzum) in order to create the world, caused primordial man (Adam Kadmon) to shatter (shevirat ha kelim) leaving the world in a state of spiritual incompleteness which only can be restored through reunification of the broken psyche of primordial man. It is impossible to summarize in its entirety here, but I always find it fascinating that the symbols Anno chose were just a bit too on the nose for him to just have used them because they look “cool”, like a lot of the Evangelion community unfortunately try to argue.
The fans hang on to Anno's every word and have done so for decades, only now parting the veil because they were blinded by looking too closely at the details. Ponder then what is implied here.
You're not setting us up for and F*** Marry Kill tier for Evangelion are you? 😏🙃
Could be, could be. ;)
Well a lot of your fans ARE furries. So..... PenPen. Yeah just sayin
Let's stick to the facts, the creator himself, as you mentioned, stated he only used Christian imagery because it looked cool, there was nothing to it, he just wanted to differentiate from other Mecca Anime. You then procced to lean your in depth review into it when the creator himself likely has no knowledge of any of the facts mentioned, because he quite frankly didn't care and again... only used it because it looked cool.
We also known that in the mid 90s with what would today be considered a mild fan backlash, the creator rushed to make a new, much darker and moody, ending...
Nothing says "I have a story to tell and I put a lot of thought into it" quite like changing the ending on a whim just to please the teen anxs of the fans.
The creator himself is just a ped that at the time at least was suffering from depression after having been caught with 'kiddy material' if you know what I mean.
Put all that together and it is hilarious that to this day fans keep over analyzing and anime that really isn't all that great, those rose tinted glasses working overtime there.
Exactly this eva fandom act like it's one of greatest thing in human history. It is just pseudo-scientific, pseudointelectual pretentious show. But some aspects abt depression, self-loathing,shadow projection and art of anime was great.
@yera Says the pseudo intellectual that had to delete his original reply and rewrite it to make it look like anything other than rambles, yes I got both in my email, and you are using "separating the art from the artist" wrong, it is laughable how you can't even understand that simple concept, your comment is a total failure.
@yera No, your point doesn't stand, I've made statement of facts, not opinions.
You have no leg to stand on and you aren't we'll enough educated to even begin arguing with me.
You're quite literally trying to defend Neon Genesis Evangelion, that is just laughable, you're starting from a defeated position.
You aren't a critical thinker, you're just gullible and conformist, you follow the herd and echo the fandom, you're so infantile that you feel personally attacked over someone calling out your little Japanese cartoon for what it really is.
Stfu lol, the last two episodes of the show and EoE are the same ending but from a different perspective, and if you want to rely on creator's words so much he literally said that the ending of NGE was planned to be like EoE even before the 25&26 episode
Just because you're not intellectually curious at all doesn't mean everybody has to be like that
@@AnaMontecristo Lmfao stfu you dumb, insufferable bitch
You can't even write properly and you're freaking out because you can't handle not being able to intellectually respond to what's being presented.
That's why you have resort to meaningless, infantile insults
And don't call them "not well educated" when "artist's words /=/ truth" and "artist subconsciously put meaning into their work" are well established truths in the world of art analysis
Overanalyzing: The Video
Utilizing Jungian and existentialist psychology as a lense for evangelion is brilliant. When I look at myself, I was naturally drawn to that school of philosophy, and later on was attracted to evangelion, and I did not know why.
Didn't expect the video, but loved it. One quick question though: Why are you using the english voice-over in the clips? Did you by any chance watch it like that? If so, then do you watch other shows like that?
I mostly watch subs in the original language, save for a few exceptions (Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Assassination Classroom, GitS, etc.). In review videos, however, I use the dub for language consistency; that being said, the Evangelion dub clips I used were pretty horrendous -- especially Kaworu's lines.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@BerserkDude I got that from prevoius vids. Yeah this english dub is a bit of a no no.
As much as I love video essays. I’ve never liked these videos that claim to have found the definitive meaning of something. While these videos can help point you in a direction, you shouldn’t take what they say as an the end all be all for interpretation of piece of media. It’s much more fulfilling to come to your own conclusion about what a show means. Evangelion is really important to me because what it means changes, not because my previous interpretations of it were wrong but because I changed. It changes as I change,
I agree that the vid loses me where it is most certain about its framework. It would be more enjoyable - to me at least - to be less definitive, idk tho.
Simple gematria and synchronicity
Gendo Ikari 7+5+14+4+15+9+11+1+18+9 =93
Saturn 19+1+20+21+18+14 = 93
The demiurge or Yaldabaoth is often correspondent to the planet Saturn, the "father" of the solar system.
needs way more views, so well done
Appreciate that!
I'm way more confused
"Oh no..... They're co-dependent!!"
good video, but oh man that brick wall is so visually unappealing lol... do an update with the recent 3.0 + 1.0
Here's the thing reader, gnotistics I bet my ENTIRE life they have not ONCE read the bible, old AND new they probably heard famous stories from the bible and put their own ideology into their version of the bible, they are not based on reality whereas God is based on both immaterial and material world I can debunk their entire system by 3 arguments that Jesus himself says and they even admit that Jesus is part of the creator God, first Jesus is the God of the Old Testament he says this explicitly "Before Abraham was, I am" which means Yahweh, where does that come from? The Angel Of the Lord who spoke to Moses when Moses asked "who should I say that sent me" God replied "I am that I am, tell them 'I am' sent you" so already right there debunks their whole ideology, second, "Can Satan cast out Satan? For a house divided cannot surely survive" why would God put a curse on the Devil for leading astray man if that God is the devil, now you may ask "that God wasn't the devil it was the demiurge" in which I reply "There was no God before me nor has there ever been after" and "when they sacrifice to their false gods they're sacrificing to demons" so clear if the God in the OT was the "demiurge" it would've been a demon and how would it make sense that a demon cursed the prince of demons, the Gnostics have no biblical basis on anything and when they don't have a biblical basis on anything they don't have a basis for anything and I feel bad for them because genuinely they are not based on reality at all, and no offense but thinking the collective unconscious is God is just totally wrong if God has the qualities to love for how can one love without being aware of love? Also the reason why we have all these similarities guess what? The Bible talks about "Gentiles know his law without ever seeing his written law" and God put his spirit in everyone but will put a blind on them so they cannot see also one last thing Logos is referring to Jesus part of God not God as a whole, "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word is God" the word is Jesus because it says "Word became flesh"
My dear sir, this is the content I have been inadvertently looking for all this time. Such deep analysis and profound understanding of so many complex subjects. Truly a magnificent job.
For a few months I have been doing a more insightful research for the bible of my show. Were it not for this splendid work of yours, I would not have thought that an imagined world could be explored in such depth. You sure sparked something special in a story that is to come in the future.
You indeed are a person worthy of attention ;)
Appreciate the kind words!
"The fundamental human problem is that we have none. So we have to create them."
Are you one of my co-workers?
I always interpreted the title of series as ‘Gospel of Rebirth’ or ‘Story / Tale of a New Beginning’; “Neon Genesis” being a Greek analogue to the Italic “Renaissance” which translates to rebirth (considering Anno even titled the two movies that summarized the events of the series as Death and Rebirth it seems that he at the very least had that in mind).
Although I do agree that Evangelion most literally translates to Good News, Eu meaning good and angelos meaning message / messenger, I think story or tale or just leaving it as Gospel sounds better the the ear, but that is just my preference.
Mars was also said to be cowardly at times, which also applies to shinji for most of the show
*"One must become 3 pacmans before obtaining the Transcendent fucntion." - Al Roker*
If you combine work of 2 psychologist no psychologist take seriously since they trachings was no merid or scientific value, mythology of several religions, lyrics from old song an gods damn astrology it all makes sense!
I'm the middle of watching the video and I honestly have no idea what you're talking about 😂
I tough Evangelion was about lonely people dealing with their miserable loneliness in different ways, this is like MUCH MORE complex than what it looks like on surface, but what if all of this is actually wrong and author didnt really tough about all of this? I am confused
It was co-written by like 5 people. Plus, if you see something in a fictional work that’s important to your enjoyment of it, then it’s there unless you change your mind. You create the existence of everything you perceive by simply experiencing it.
Genuine question: You frame Shinji's possessing feminine traits and Asuka possessing masculine traits as negative things. Whether you believe it is the perspective of the show or not, I'm not really sure if you're supportive of the idea that women should be "subservient" and men have to been "self-possessed" and "confident?" If so, I'm a little confused why Asuka wouldn't want to reject the feminine traits that you described as "less desirable." Of course she would want to reject those things, if they are less desirable. Are they only less desirable because they are possessed by a boy?
If that is really your perspective, maybe reading less Jordan Peterson would do you good. Also, I think Anno has more compassion and tenderness for Asuka than Jordan Peterson ever would, and the idea that he would look on her smugly and condescending like that meme implies is kind of wild to me. I think the way Kaji treats her is pretty close to how Anno views her.
I'd argue that while Shinji is indeed emotionally stunted and has the psyche of a much younger child, he is still a child as a 14-year-old boy. The things he goes through would traumatize any adult, never mind a teenager. He acts passively because he has no agency in his life, and he sees no reason to try. Asuka is argumentative and aggressive as a coping mechanism for the trauma that she's endured of losing her mother and having to be a literal child soldier, and less because her femininity and masculinity are out of balance. She is desperate to seem in control because she has no control over her life. She desperately wants to be an adult, because all the adults around her control her, with little consideration for her wellbeing, and she believes that if she is an adult she can grasp onto some of that control for herself. This is why she throws herself at Kaji. She believes that if he sees her as a sexual option, that means she is an adult. But he (and Anno) knows that she is a child and wishes to preserve her innocence, and even though he knows that it will hurt her, rejecting her is the only aspect of her innocence he has the ability to preserve.
Shinji learns from Asuka's passion and drive, which helps him gain more confidence and improves his synch ratio even above what Asuka achieved, which destroys Asuka's self-confidence, because she has established her entire sense of self on being useful to the adults who continue to exploit her, and when she is no longer useful to them, she is gutted. She is disposable.
'You frame Shinji's possessing feminine traits and Asuka possessing masculine traits as negative things'
No he says they are unbalanced because they reject their inner masculine or feminine self and then became dysfunctional.
@@syrozzz that guy mad
This sounds exactly like a video max Derrat would make, and coincidentally, he commented on this video. Truly amazing.
Asuka doesn't have a good relationship with her mom, so she doesn't have a good relationship with her feminity...
*gasps* 👁️👄👁️
I don't think your full blown psychological approach is correct enough
Unless you're in psychology faculty and know what you're talking about systematically.
Especially when Master Anno said he put in mysticism just because it sounds complicated ..
It sounded more like well presented harmless conspiratory theory than an actual attemt to clear things up.
find it hilarious when fans of this show try so hard to explain it when its just badly written pretentious crap imo
Finally someone says it how it is.
It's absolutely well written, go back to watching Jojo and My Hero Academia
Everybody had explanation of whole series in last episodes, maybe low cost ones, but it was an explanation. Um uhh this ending is total shit 🤓. Anno gave you EoE to show more action, to remove this interruption of the sequence of events, to give EVEN MORE EXPLANATIONS. But uhhmm this ending is too ambiguous 🤓 You all had one job to reflect on yourself. Shinji, Asuka, Rei, Misato and others... all of them had a different story to tell, different advice for you. Everything what's inside of these fan "explanations" has been told in Evangelion, but in simplified language, language of casual viewer, not a fucking psychology professor. I'm not surprised of that Anno doesn't like Eva's fandom. He tried to tell us how to everything starts inside us, in our mind. He tried to tell us that, we have to love, and accept ourselves because no one will do it for us. But instead of listening to him, fandom did the opposite. Embraced escapism, labeled itself as the one of the most depressed communities ever. That's kinda disappointing... I guess.
And here I thought I kinda understand Eva... although, since this show touched me on such a deep level that I couldn't fully understand, I felt like I was missing something.
This was it... Thank you!
(Curious to see what you think of the rebuild...)
No that's not it, although detailed all the Christian thing is just theories, nothing more
I must say I am thoroughly impressed by this Jungian re-cast of the architypes of the characters, and it is not a super facial analysis at that! Bravo!
you should really add actual subs so we can look up all those crazy hebrew/greek/latin terms you keep throwing around like everyone learned them in grade school civics or something.
26 episodes and 2 movies (Originally)...and the message is you must embrace/love yourself...
The Pains & Joy's are the necessities of the journey of self-discovery (Individuality)…
Yet, it is in our journey of self-discovery we also seek out the the opposite of ourselves, the inversion, The One We Deem Our Equal in many respects (Our Partner)
The one whom is the both the missing piece & one whom we are compatible with in order to maintain our individuality and, through the unity of our partner, ensure its continued existance...
Love is giving someone the means to destroy you and trusting that they will not use it…
Finding love does not automatically make everything solved, it just means you have someone to share your burdens with...
It may be disgusting...it may make us sick, BUT it ensures/maintains our individuality
This feels way more important and truthfull than this whole video.
@@petrfedor1851 Wow, that is not what I was going for, but I thank you for your comment. Stay strong
God has no Partners, No GRAVEN IMAGE, No Symbols, and No Statues.
Period
Wait hold on a second. Shinji ran out on his Dad? I thought Gendo abandoned Shinji... Need some help here.
Yeah I don't really agree with that either. Gendo is a bad person no matter what and Shinji not forgiving him is reasonable. I don't know why this video paints it as a bad thing. The anime itself portrays Gendo as someone that doesn't necessarily deserve forgiveness.
@@MrShoe321 abandoned his father's mission
@@Horseloverfat2374 his father's mission is blantsly called out as being a bad thing in episodes 25 and 26. Gendo's plan is a perversion of Yui's plan which was to be a beacon of humanity's existence. Gendo's work and plan was only being used so that he could be reunited with her. Yui straight up tells gendo that his plan was fucked and that it ruined his relationship with Shinji
Shinji ran out on his dad in the sense he would never allow himself to forgive or try to even love him. It's like straight up telling yourself "I hate my dad"
@@scoopypoopsy2791 literally the whole show is about Shinji piloting the EVA solely because other people like him when he does that. Apart of that is piloting the EVA in an attempt to garner love from his father which doesn't work
"believing in afterlife"!?? Hello!????😂😂😂😂 I stopped the video right there!👍🤦🏼👍
I dont want to uderstand ashuka,shinji or gay hideako ano i want to understand what the fuck happend at the end!!!
Totally butchered the Ecclesiastes story, Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun and man's greatest duty is to follow God.
The Gnostics were funny. "Let's make some stuff up and believe it." "Ok."
What I've gathered from this analysis is that the autists on 4chan arguing best grill for over 20+ years now are actually the gnostic philosophers discovering the true self.
Came here because I wanted to know some more about giant alien mechs that are piloted by broken children going pewpew. Left with an in-depth psychoanalysis of myself and possibly answers to quite a few questions I had no answers up until now
Regarding the name, I get a “gospel of the new beginning” vibe tbh. We translate it from japanese so the title could be seen as “gospel of the new beginning” just a theory tho
there's even an episode where Shinji actually looses his material body (can be interpreted as the concious mind) in the LCL and dissapears for a while
great video, really similar to my take on it. This anime is incredible, but I'm happy I waited until now to watch it, because if I did so as a teenager I would never have understood what I did
Wait I rewatched evangelion a few weeks ago and I didnt see it on netflix.
Which episode?
@@prettyboyreign5180 I just looked up the exact number, its episode 20, it happens right after a big fight, but thats also the second time shinj kind of "hops dimensions", there's another episode this happens before this, in a fight against an angel Shinji and unit 1 are absorbed by the angels body and things get strange, that one is episode 16
this anime is Christpilled thick and through. Accept it or don't you'll still get the lesson probably not the full picture
Very good video.
Freudian theory obviously takes center stage in Evangelion psychological discussion because of the more direct parallels (i.e. the desire to return to the womb and the Oedipus complex), so it's very interesting to watch a Jungian approach.
I watched this on 2 tabs of acid + end of evangelion. I no long do drugs other then weed. I went threw ego death. Years later still shooketh lol loved ur break down u get it as i did.
I enjoy seeing analysis of Eva, and this honestly does a good job, but just once I'd like someone to remind Eva's audience that it can be interpreted in multiple ways, just like any text. For example, I've never seen a genre focused analysis of Evangelion, but I've seen multiple psychology based ones. It's a shame because Eva holds up from any angle of analysis.
I don't know if I'll get an answer, but what is the the bgm in the last 30 seconds of the video.
Listening to you mispronounce words made my ears bleed. Figuratively.
There is an untouchable, truer world, but not in a religious sense. It's the objective world. Embracing nihilism, you can find higher knowledge that is closer to that "world without perspective":
- There are no opposites
- There is no free will, we are just chain reactions.
- The world happens in the only way it can, so everything is predestinated.
- There is no chance.
- Nobody deserves anything.
- Nothing is divine.
I'm really not sure if this is a 25 minute long prank or if this is a serious philosophical analysis. Given the opening quote about fapping, I'm going with the former.
14 year old me: "Everyone is telling me to check out this cool mecha show, I think i'm gonna check it out"
20 year old me now, rewatching nge for the billionth time: "have you ever considered gnosticism?"
I don't agree with the premise that Shinji wishes to be enveloped by his mother and in turn resents his father. Seems like what he wants is to be enveloped by his father.
It´s because that idea is based on Oedipus complex. Freaud don´t try to back up that concept in slightless.
Yeah it's Anno's Ultraman fanfic.
this was done so well, id like to see an explanation of the anime "Planet With" it was also a show that left many going wtf and dealt with fighting angels that arrive at random times
O shiiyitteee thats why Kaworu took Shinjis DSS choker. Thats symbolism to Christ taking the cross then dying to save humanity.
Also on 3.0 Kaworu sat silently to figure out why there are two spears of Longinus because he was trying to figure out what his purpose is. Then later when he did he felt he was foresaken when he was cast down from being the 1st Angel now to the 13th Angel
I think now I have an idea what the theme is for the last Evangelion. Its Shinji coming to terms to who he is,what he has done,his sins and most likely he will be reborn to shed away his mortal body.
There will be an Atonement that animators will show during the climax of the film.
(mild spoiler) eva 3.0+1.0: Kaworu was 'the one that interlinks humanity' and Shinji went through the journey that you describes. Even the reborn part after the train station I guess.
Spot on.
@@syrozzz where you satisfied with the ending Hideaki Anno gave us? In my end I was and I'm looking forward to his new works
@@bestthingsinceslicedrice Oh yeah it felt like a warm hug.
It was a good 'meta' ending, a very nice way for Anno and us to say good bye to 'all of evangelion'.
Nothing as impactful as EoE tho, to me the true and only end of evangelion. ;)
What a bunch of crap
Not saying I completely agree with this approach( I doubt they went as far with it as you did) BUT peopled do take the religious symbolism for granted. They assume that every moment in Eva's religious symbol is superficial when it's pretty clear that at certain moments they are using it with meaning in mind. Just because they chose Christian imagery because it looks cool does not mean they can not be intentional with it. The most obvious example is probably misato cross in both the originals and rebuilds. Also, FYI I'm pretty sure Anno never said that the religious symbols were inconsequential. That came from someone on his staff and not him. It's mostly just fans repeating the bad info. If I'm wrong please let me know with a quote.
Note: this why I don't like this approach btw: The Gnosticism stuff is always interesting but people get tunnel vision on it and go overboard. For example, you say it was Shinji animus/mother that whisked him away and that what bought him back in ep 16 and that this was bad BUT there is a bit you skipped there. We see a child Shinji and his mother. His mother ask him "are you ready" and we see child Shinji respond. It very vague/abstract but given what follows after it becomes clear what happened. His mother gave him a choice and he chose to come back. No one has subsumed anyone. His first words after coming back was "I just wanted to see you again" or see them don't remember, to Misato. The point is he wanted to return and his mom helped him. It didn't really play out the way you described. And in hindsight, the scene was really a foreshadowing of instrumentality stuff later on and an introduction to talking angels/weird mind trips. Anyway, he was being proactive in ep 16 ending unlike what you conclude.
ep 16 ending shinji" I just wanted to see you again"
EOE Shinji " I know my feeling were real at the time...blah blah don't remember the rest but basically, he had the same response he had in ep 16.
The difference between the two scenes is Shinji hasn't figure himself out yet but he still has the same general feelings of wanting others.
Good vid though.
Agees
I did not come here to get called out in the first two minutes of the video 😬
This all make perfect sense. BUT, it almost sound like a schizophrenic rant because of the multiple themes and ideas it combines on all of these levels. If I tried to explain all these themes to someone that hasn't seen an episode they'd think I'm insane.
Max Derrat said I should watch this vid first before I watch his, sooo... let's do this!
I will take overanalyzing for 200, jimmy.
Ahh, so that's why Eva speaks so much to the trans community
Book of Revelation's can be called John's ewangelion in diffrent languages so i think this is what the tittle reffers to
I can understand 10 words on this video now.
I'm sorry but whatever you said in the beginning made no sense
perfect, one more time this end makes me cry