@@GgByAngel I challenge you to an actual conversation about your specific birth chart…with all due respect. Astrology is real whether you agree or not.
Its nonsense to the individual who hasnt explored the astrology topic themselves. The person who resides on one side of the polar opposite camp will always stay in their comfort zone never willing to see what lies on the other side. I encourage you to do your own independent unbiased research. Of course i cant make the horse drink water at the end of the day though.
@@Jurelife To each their own. At the end of the day idgaf what anyone thinks or believes. You think Jesus never walked on water? Good for you could really give less of a care.
@@TheVibez_ spicy!! lol... silly me.. here I was thinking that our environment and conditioning create behavior patterns.. I mean, if a dog has an abusive owner.. the dog will express characteristics of an abused dog... it's simple. Hahaaaaaa ahhhhhh... if you believe in that nonsense... you should also believe Jesus feed 5000 with some fish and a loaf of bread lol lmaooooooo
I totally agree , there narcissistic ego thrieves from the attention and like a drug gives them their dopamine hit , UNTIL THERE PLACEBO TRICK IS CHALLENGED BY FACTS N SCIENCE
Aliza did an amazing job taking him on. Esp when folx who speak on astrology when they don’t know what they’re talking about; ie him thinking his rising was solely related to his birth month, trying to disprove and shut Aliza down. She also did a great job of handling the, “if you’re so smart with astrology, I shouldn’t have to tell my info,” take astrologers deal with constantly. Her Leo really came through there too at the end-“I’m the best!”😂💕Glad to see her back in another segment and can’t wait to see more of her on here!💕
@@apatouros7572 really tho what? You keep making comments against Aliza that aren’t constructive or even explaining your reasoning for her not being credible in your eyes.
@@SHVRWK Yeah, totally bogus pseudo-"science". Like the position of any stars or planets 58 years ago have anything to do with me today. NDT did a great job of not just laughing outright at her. 😎
They aren’t fighting! It’s a love fest! Aliza Kelly, astrologer totally disarms Neil de Grasse Tyson, astrophysicist. It’s fun to watch these two smart and witty professionals play off each other, while tackling a range of topics in their respective fields. A must see!
I'm pretty sure he was the one disarming her. He looks completely chill and she looks VERY intense and egotistical. She's making manipulative assumptions of him by his rising sign with statements like "His Sagittarius rising saw my Leo sun" there's no logical consensus behind that statement, nor does anywhere in astrology does it say a Rising sign can see a person's sun.
Either you're just dense (No offense) or lack common sense, she does not look tense at all. Wheres the egoism at? If you refer to the "Im the best" comment she made, that was obviously a joke reply. She is not egotistical.@@BrandonChaunceyOfficial
And this is why civilization is doomed. 2 people, one top in the world in Astro physiology, the other a lunatic. Both being presented as equally correct.
Hello Mam. Just watched this video. I invite you and Mr Neil deGrasse Tyson or any other Astrophysicist of your choice to discuss the topic on your or/and my channel. Unless we know the other side of the truth, we couldn't probably arrive at the reality we would probably like to. West has been kind enough to enter deep into Eastern education system ever since Macaulay days. As an individual from the East ie. Bharat I wish to return the favour with a combined discussion of both. In none of the discussion of Neil deGrasse I ever found discussion addressing methodology of ancient Bharat astrology even though he talked about Mayan's, Greeks etc. Hope you would take the initiative and also the challrnge. Thanks and good luck.
I love Aliza! She did so great! Astrology is not science and many of us who believe in it aren’t pretending it is. It’s a belief system. I’d love to see the bts version.
I didn’t expect NDT this amazing Astrophysicist to be so closed off and kind of dick-ish. It seems to me that he came out full guard up and Aliza is just all excited to meet him & vibe. The same man that said our dog evolved via survival of the cutest lol…Never meet your heroes I guess.
It's not closed off, it's called talking dumming down own IQ level & match it to let's say Not so educated Tv show level Iq one's aka the Facebook mom's Hogs that believe in Astrology, Lmao U really think a Astrophysicist scientist will talk on par with Facebook mom's topics like Astrology.
so, he never agreed to his rising sign, because he answered "no", that he didn't know. So how did Aliza get Sag rising, what was her source.. This is not source material. Make him produce a birth certificate.
I’m intrigued by astrology and the magic of our world, but I’m grounded in science. It just feels like NDT is trying to keep the conversation objective. Everything he disagrees about, she just laughs or has a quippy remark? I feel like maybe an astrologer with less of an Instagram influencer vibe would’ve been a more appropriate pairing. Also, the editing just feels off.
i just don’t understand why as a scientist there is no interest there. He’s just like “it doesn’t make sense to me, i have no confidence in it”, dude you obviously never looked into it without the intention to debunk. where’s the curiosity?
"No, because I'm the best!" Aliza!!! That was impressive. When you were explaining rising signs to him, it looked like he was like..now...wait a hot second-this sounds a bit more sophisticated than my original assessment! That was awesome. NDT is such a Sag rising!
"no, becuase I'm the best" was at best an attempt to deflect Neil's point about the many possible interpretations borne out of the hazy world of astrology's belief system.
Yep. Schools of astrology exist look it up. I know its hard to comprehend but an individual will always stay stubborn in his ways of thinking unless he has the balls to put his aside his ego and see what the other half offers. Everything will always be one sided because of non open minded individuals like yourself discrediting a topic he or she is not very familiar with. I'm discerning based off of your snarky comment.
It's always interesting listening to someone who knows nothing about how astrology works try to project their assumptions about how it works and be 100% wtong every single time.
The wonderful thing about astrology, like any religion, is how it is based on circular reasoning, that you can reinterpret to suit the situation. Imagine if she didn’t know what Neil’s birth date was, and tried to predict it from his personality. Because that’s what a scientist would try to do. But that doesn’t work with astrology, does it? The difference between science and nonscience is that nonscience can only predict things you already know.
That's not how astrology works. Aliza needs his birthdate, birthtime and location in order to give any useful information to him. She's following celestial patterns that our ancestors have noted throughout the course of history to be able to assess him properly.
He reminds me so much of my dad. It's funny how he expresses his skepticism and shares these preconceived ideas as fact. This is Aliza's domain and she's always at the top of her game! I'm curious how the whole conversation unfolded but I hope his mind is more open to astrology now. If not, that's ok too. Much love to them both ❤❤❤
aLwAyS aT tHe ToP oF hEr GaMe is what you call a heavily butchered under 5 min clip of her cutting off everything but herself, self agrandazing as if she's made some point?
What a dream pairing! Love how Neil explains the best parts of modern astrology all the while thinking he's criticizing it... also how did I not know he's my birthday twin, and a fellow Sag rising? I wonder what else we have in common?!
I too, was born on Neil's birthday....Oct 5th....but several years difference. Over a month ago my wife and I saw Neil give a talk in Oakland, CA....which is about a 125 mile drive for us. I don't know if you know this....Neil, at a young age, was taken under the wing of the great Carl Sagan, who saw something in Neil and even took him home for an evening and where he spent the night.
Good entertainment, but the interview also demonstrates Neil's total ignorance of astrology. He believes that astrology means that "the stars control us" -- nonsense. He also never heard of a rising sign and thinks that it has something to do with being adjacent to the sun sign in the zodiac. He has obviously never studied astrology and doesn't know what astrology is, yet he feels qualified to criticize astrology as if he knew something about it.
What was the point of this video? It was the perfect opportunity to test astrology by giving her his natal chart and make her describe him using that. He then would have rated the accuracy and called her out if she was evasive in her delineations. This video is the perfect example of how badly and unscientifically treated is astrology, by the scientists first and foremost.
One of these things is not like the other. One is a science. Based on objective and verifiable facts. The other is stupid make belief personalized in a substance-less performer.
I think it is important to have the dialogue and to listen. Confirmed astrologers and astronomers will always disagree, but in the end it is important to at least give the other side something to think about. Realize that the other side has done its homework and give them credit.
I found myself here after trying to google NDT's birth chart. Pleeeeeeaaase next time somebody ask him to confirm time of birth/birth dets...no way 12 noon is accurate. Yeah...I said it!
@@MoonMagickSpirit fair: it's misogynistic to call her "girl". but AK's still annoying, and AK doesn't really carry any respect in the astro community.
Would much prefer an unedited upload of the whole conversation, and maybe see some answers to the objections Tyson was politely raising
I loved this. I would have liked to see a longer segment.
Exactly…I want to see an actual debate…It will help astrology. Why doesn’t anyone do this?
@@lilianairizarry714 There is no help for astrology. If they did an actual debate NDT would wipe the floor with her. 😎
@@TitoTimTravels You obviously know nothing or very little about astrology and that is ok.
@@lilianairizarry714 Madam, with all do respect, there is absolutely nothing to know about astrology.
@@GgByAngel I challenge you to an actual conversation about your specific birth chart…with all due respect. Astrology is real whether you agree or not.
He is too kind to point out how ridiculous she is. Honestly it’s embarrassing people still believe this nonsense.
Its nonsense to the individual who hasnt explored the astrology topic themselves. The person who resides on one side of the polar opposite camp will always stay in their comfort zone never willing to see what lies on the other side. I encourage you to do your own independent unbiased research. Of course i cant make the horse drink water at the end of the day though.
'EnCOUraGe yOu tO DO yOuR OwN reSeArCH'
Is there an idiot factory that keeps churning you lot out?
@@TheVibez_it's nonsense lol... that's like believing Jesus actually walked on water lol
@@Jurelife To each their own. At the end of the day idgaf what anyone thinks or believes. You think Jesus never walked on water? Good for you could really give less of a care.
@@TheVibez_ spicy!! lol... silly me.. here I was thinking that our environment and conditioning create behavior patterns.. I mean, if a dog has an abusive owner.. the dog will express characteristics of an abused dog... it's simple. Hahaaaaaa ahhhhhh... if you believe in that nonsense... you should also believe Jesus feed 5000 with some fish and a loaf of bread lol lmaooooooo
The narcissism in the astrology community 😂
what
Narcissism where?
I totally agree , there narcissistic ego thrieves from the attention and like a drug gives them their dopamine hit , UNTIL THERE PLACEBO TRICK IS CHALLENGED BY FACTS N SCIENCE
Lol
And science …. which knows about .0001% of ‘reality’ …. but purports to know more than everyone else …. Isn’t Narcisistic..?
@@leo--4341 It’s not a diagnosis, it’s an opinion dork.
NDT's patience and tolerance level is godly
Aliza did an amazing job taking him on. Esp when folx who speak on astrology when they don’t know what they’re talking about; ie him thinking his rising was solely related to his birth month, trying to disprove and shut Aliza down. She also did a great job of handling the, “if you’re so smart with astrology, I shouldn’t have to tell my info,” take astrologers deal with constantly. Her Leo really came through there too at the end-“I’m the best!”😂💕Glad to see her back in another segment and can’t wait to see more of her on here!💕
really tho? I get what you're laying down, but can we get Lanyadoo or someone?? AK is just not it, imho.
@@apatouros7572 really tho what? You keep making comments against Aliza that aren’t constructive or even explaining your reasoning for her not being credible in your eyes.
Imagine still believing in this pseudoscience garbage in 2022 lol
@@SHVRWK Yeah, totally bogus pseudo-"science". Like the position of any stars or planets 58 years ago have anything to do with me today. NDT did a great job of not just laughing outright at her. 😎
Do you still believe this? Please give an update. Or let me guess you’re a conservative Christian now.
Omg we need more
They aren’t fighting! It’s a love fest! Aliza Kelly, astrologer totally disarms Neil de Grasse Tyson, astrophysicist. It’s fun to watch these two smart and witty professionals play off each other, while tackling a range of topics in their respective fields. A must see!
A smart astrologist is an oxymoron lol
I'm pretty sure he was the one disarming her. He looks completely chill and she looks VERY intense and egotistical. She's making manipulative assumptions of him by his rising sign with statements like "His Sagittarius rising saw my Leo sun" there's no logical consensus behind that statement, nor does anywhere in astrology does it say a Rising sign can see a person's sun.
Either you're just dense (No offense) or lack common sense, she does not look tense at all. Wheres the egoism at? If you refer to the "Im the best" comment she made, that was obviously a joke reply. She is not egotistical.@@BrandonChaunceyOfficial
Dude this guy connects with everyone because fyi he also excels at humility.
Except violent j 😂 that was a hard watch but violent j was really nice, I actually felt bad for him bc it was so awkward.
And this is why civilization is doomed. 2 people, one top in the world in Astro physiology, the other a lunatic. Both being presented as equally correct.
Astrology isn’t the reason for ignorance nor the collapse of any civilization, but this is why civilization is doomed?
Hello Mam. Just watched this video. I invite you and Mr Neil deGrasse Tyson or any other Astrophysicist of your choice to discuss the topic on your or/and my channel. Unless we know the other side of the truth, we couldn't probably arrive at the reality we would probably like to. West has been kind enough to enter deep into Eastern education system ever since Macaulay days. As an individual from the East ie. Bharat I wish to return the favour with a combined discussion of both. In none of the discussion of Neil deGrasse I ever found discussion addressing methodology of ancient Bharat astrology even though he talked about Mayan's, Greeks etc. Hope you would take the initiative and also the challrnge. Thanks and good luck.
I love Aliza! She did so great! Astrology is not science and many of us who believe in it aren’t pretending it is. It’s a belief system. I’d love to see the bts version.
Like religion
Trouble is it makes scientific claims.
He was annoying, but she nailed it. Good for her for coming as the sensational Lioness Sea Goat that she is.
I didn’t expect NDT this amazing Astrophysicist to be so closed off and kind of dick-ish. It seems to me that he came out full guard up and Aliza is just all excited to meet him & vibe. The same man that said our dog evolved via survival of the cutest lol…Never meet your heroes I guess.
Well that's what you deserve when you believe in fairytales and pseudoscience.
It's not closed off, it's called talking dumming down own IQ level & match it to let's say Not so educated Tv show level Iq one's aka the Facebook mom's Hogs that believe in Astrology, Lmao U really think a Astrophysicist scientist will talk on par with Facebook mom's topics like Astrology.
@@Fire-tm5bi yours is the comment I was searching for...the whole comment section is filled with idiots
It’s not closed off, he’s a scientist, and he came ready for a fight, that’s all. Astrology is not compatible with science.
so, he never agreed to his rising sign, because he answered "no", that he didn't know. So how did Aliza get Sag rising, what was her source.. This is not source material. Make him produce a birth certificate.
Make him produce a birth certificate? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
TGIF. He has a book on the universe
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He took that as a compliment
I’m intrigued by astrology and the magic of our world, but I’m grounded in science. It just feels like NDT is trying to keep the conversation objective. Everything he disagrees about, she just laughs or has a quippy remark? I feel like maybe an astrologer with less of an Instagram influencer vibe would’ve been a more appropriate pairing. Also, the editing just feels off.
i just don’t understand why as a scientist there is no interest there. He’s just like “it doesn’t make sense to me, i have no confidence in it”, dude you obviously never looked into it without the intention to debunk. where’s the curiosity?
Because it is COMPLETE nonsense. How often do you look into dumpsters for good food?
@Trevor😂😂Dandy.
He’s such a Sagittarius rising. 😂
what does that even mean?
Fairy tail people
why is this so short nooooooo
"No, because I'm the best!" Aliza!!! That was impressive. When you were explaining rising signs to him, it looked like he was like..now...wait a hot second-this sounds a bit more sophisticated than my original assessment! That was awesome. NDT is such a Sag rising!
"no, becuase I'm the best" was at best an attempt to deflect Neil's point about the many possible interpretations borne out of the hazy world of astrology's belief system.
Exactly, total ridiculous deflection
just perfect.
People still believe in astrology? Really? lmfao
Yep. Schools of astrology exist look it up. I know its hard to comprehend but an individual will always stay stubborn in his ways of thinking unless he has the balls to put his aside his ego and see what the other half offers. Everything will always be one sided because of non open minded individuals like yourself discrediting a topic he or she is not very familiar with. I'm discerning based off of your snarky comment.
It's always interesting listening to someone who knows nothing about how astrology works try to project their assumptions about how it works and be 100% wtong every single time.
The wonderful thing about astrology, like any religion, is how it is based on circular reasoning, that you can reinterpret to suit the situation. Imagine if she didn’t know what Neil’s birth date was, and tried to predict it from his personality. Because that’s what a scientist would try to do. But that doesn’t work with astrology, does it? The difference between science and nonscience is that nonscience can only predict things you already know.
That's not how astrology works. Aliza needs his birthdate, birthtime and location in order to give any useful information to him. She's following celestial patterns that our ancestors have noted throughout the course of history to be able to assess him properly.
Doing it the other way would prove that astrology really had some scientific basis. But it has none.
Predicting personality isn’t the purpose of astrology.. not how it works.
@@isafauxmystrahsmith9415 But isn’t that what this astrologer was trying to do?
Where or when is the rest? 😩 this is is good. I love Aliza!
Ay ya!
Amazing how people who do not believe in God but believe in nonsense.
He reminds me so much of my dad. It's funny how he expresses his skepticism and shares these preconceived ideas as fact. This is Aliza's domain and she's always at the top of her game! I'm curious how the whole conversation unfolded but I hope his mind is more open to astrology now. If not, that's ok too.
Much love to them both ❤❤❤
aLwAyS aT tHe ToP oF hEr GaMe is what you call a heavily butchered under 5 min clip of her cutting off everything but herself, self agrandazing as if she's made some point?
Needed to know what she was gonna say as Sagittarius risings. Mhhmp
It’s crazier than Christianity
He was kinda rude right?
i am now so curious to see his chart 🤩
he’s a libra ☀️ cancer 🌑 sagittarius ⬆️
@@GolAcheron-fc4ugno he's not lol
@@Jurelife he literally is. he was born October 5, 1958
@@GolAcheron-fc4ugI think he meant, Niel isn't mentally challenged
Guys come check these two argue about some vague descriptions of people
He was just waiting for her to stop yapping
What a dream pairing! Love how Neil explains the best parts of modern astrology all the while thinking he's criticizing it... also how did I not know he's my birthday twin, and a fellow Sag rising? I wonder what else we have in common?!
I too, was born on Neil's birthday....Oct 5th....but several years difference. Over a month ago my wife and I saw Neil give a talk in Oakland, CA....which is about a 125 mile drive for us. I don't know if you know this....Neil, at a young age, was taken under the wing of the great Carl Sagan, who saw something in Neil and even took him home for an evening and where he spent the night.
Good entertainment, but the interview also demonstrates Neil's total ignorance of astrology. He believes that astrology means that "the stars control us" -- nonsense. He also never heard of a rising sign and thinks that it has something to do with being adjacent to the sun sign in the zodiac. He has obviously never studied astrology and doesn't know what astrology is, yet he feels qualified to criticize astrology as if he knew something about it.
Vedic astrology is more specific as well
Thank god im a libra so i can hate this just as much as im supposed to
OMMMMGGGGG SOOOOOOOOOOOO RAAAADDDDDD!!!!!!!!
i hope he would just let loose and not be so combative with this lol
It’s hard not to. Think about talking to a flat earther about the globe.
This is EPIC, go Aliza!!!!!!
She’s got a yappin degree
What was the point of this video? It was the perfect opportunity to test astrology by giving her his natal chart and make her describe him using that. He then would have rated the accuracy and called her out if she was evasive in her delineations. This video is the perfect example of how badly and unscientifically treated is astrology, by the scientists first and foremost.
One of these things is not like the other. One is a science. Based on objective and verifiable facts. The other is stupid make belief personalized in a substance-less performer.
Love Aliza!!
I would watch a full hour of Aliza schooling Neil in astrology, he'd be a total believer by the end of it.
I think it is important to have the dialogue and to listen. Confirmed astrologers and astronomers will always disagree, but in the end it is important to at least give the other side something to think about. Realize that the other side has done its homework and give them credit.
This woman is a Virgo-Capricorn with a Leo Sun and Gemini Asc is it?How fascinating!
G✌🏿💞🌎💞✌🏻G
Tell it, girlfriend! It's about awareness. Im sag, sag rising, and sag NN.
I found myself here after trying to google NDT's birth chart. Pleeeeeeaaase next time somebody ask him to confirm time of birth/birth dets...no way 12 noon is accurate. Yeah...I said it!
Nothing happened
The host is cringe as the editing
astrolo-physicist?
That was lame, and she was so annoying.
WHAT A WASTE OF TIME !
oh god... not this girl speaking on behalf of the entire astrology community with Neil deGrasse Tyson 🤦
who said that's what she is doing?
@@evanjosephmusic the title of the video does, actually.
Take your misogyny elsewhere, or better yet, do better bestie.
@@MoonMagickSpirit fair: it's misogynistic to call her "girl". but AK's still annoying, and AK doesn't really carry any respect in the astro community.
If astrology was worthy to be called a science, why cannot two astrologists come up with matching horoscopes for the same person?
@sazude2 the system keeps saying error every time I try to respond