How to harden wire for wire wrapping jewelry

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • Szarka of www.magpiegemst... discussed various ways to harden wire, hammering, twisting and discusses tumblers briefly.

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  • @korieray2
    @korieray2 6 лет назад +7

    Love this post because of the depth of the information. I really appreciate when I'm told the science behind hows like these.

  • @angelarosehilliard5
    @angelarosehilliard5 2 года назад +2

    Ty. Great info. I'm new at wire wrapping. That was the most I have seen on YOU TUBE just talking about the wire, not just manipulating it for design. I hope as I scroll through your videos there will be others.✌️♥️

  • @neuromonkey
    @neuromonkey 7 лет назад +7

    "...how do I turn thi--"
    Heh.
    Good info, thanks!!

  • @SzarkaCartersss
    @SzarkaCartersss 10 лет назад +5

    I find you can harden aluminum a bit but mostly it just become brittle. The trick with aluminum is use a much larger gauge.

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад +5

    I always thought it was just called a wire twister but it is called a pin vise. There are many different kinds of tools out there that do the same thing. If you google wire twister you will see them all.

  • @paulaharrison591
    @paulaharrison591 4 года назад +3

    seems like I am finding you late in the game, but great info on hardening wire!!

  • @SzarkaCartersss
    @SzarkaCartersss 11 лет назад +5

    Mazkd once you've made the shape your only option for hardening would be to tumble it!

  • @XuGuYi
    @XuGuYi 10 лет назад +5

    Awesome and really helpful!! Thanks a million :)

  • @MsSensationalMechele
    @MsSensationalMechele 8 лет назад +4

    thanks very informative....I've been looking for a way to harden my wire when I make jump rings for anklets and bracelets

  • @HypnoticOutcast
    @HypnoticOutcast 4 года назад +4

    I know this is an older video (and I would love to see you make more!) But when you heat up wire, does that make it softer?

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  4 года назад +1

      It does when working with Sterling and copper. You have to hear it to a certain temperature to anneal. Look up videos on annealing wire.

  • @charley408
    @charley408 7 лет назад +2

    awwww! I like you! Who knew it coukd be so easy to harden wire! between learning how to hammer wire, and now with your tutorial....I'm good to go! Now I don't have to go run around town or wait for an online order to come in to make these awesome earrings that are dancing around in my head! I get idea for designs and must do them straight away, or ASAP! I should just practice drawing so I could put them on paper before I forget or take something simple and pretty and over think it. I try to stay current with new methods or tweaks one can do with wire. Now the trick is....getting good wire! ughhhh! Thank you for sharing! !!

  • @patriciacvener1968
    @patriciacvener1968 Год назад +1

    I love this video!

  • @markstandard8459
    @markstandard8459 3 года назад +1

    Thank you🙃

  • @therealmagicpant
    @therealmagicpant Год назад +1

    Hopefully by now you're feeling better....

  • @notwrkn2mch
    @notwrkn2mch 9 лет назад +4

    Never knew the twisting method... Gotta try that :)

  • @jackelliottearls3669
    @jackelliottearls3669 5 лет назад +1

    I make pendants for necklaces and I’m planning to sell them but if you sleep in the jewelry the fasten I guess you’d call it will break. Is there a good way to keep the fasten from breaking or a way to harden the dead soft wire? Dead soft wire makes for great detailed pieces. Thank you for your help!

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  5 лет назад

      If you are on Facebook I recommend joining the group Jewelry Makers and Bead Lovers, I own the group. That is a multifaceted question and you will get much better and thorough answers there.

  • @blissfulnature1
    @blissfulnature1 Год назад +1

    That’s so cool and all, but how are your natural nails so long? 😮

  • @charlesmorgan9078
    @charlesmorgan9078 4 месяца назад

    I want to make a 6-1 Persian bracelet using 999 silver. The only pure silver wire I have found is dead soft. Will this procedure work on fine silver? Also can you twist it two turns one direction then reverse two turns until hard and maybe get less distortion in the wire?
    Thank you.

  • @mysticzebra5421
    @mysticzebra5421 5 месяцев назад

    This is just what I needed. I bought a bunch of wire before I knew there were different hardness levels. It's too soft. I got myself an anvil to work on that's two sided. Stainless steel and rubber, now I just need a metal hammer since I already have that black and yellow one. I was also gifted some cheep wire twisters and have yet to get them to work, but I just might not have done it right.
    Long story short, I was excited for my wire and made my mom a ring and it keeps bending out of place.
    At what stage in the ring making process is it best to harden the wire?

  • @charley408
    @charley408 3 года назад +1

    And you can use a piece of flat wood and roll the wire under it back and forth. Like a piece of a wooden frame would be great. I put a piece of tape on the end so I dont get splinter. I need to go find the video so I can list it here then you can see it yourself.

  • @flyingcheff
    @flyingcheff 10 лет назад +3

    You have gorgeous hands, how do you keep them so nice through all that wire work?

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  10 лет назад

      I really don't know. I'm not much into taking care of them. They just stay that way.

  • @PENFOLD1962
    @PENFOLD1962 5 лет назад +1

    Hi, A fascinating video, I'm new to all this as you may have worked out already. The steel block that you forgot the name of looks ideal for my needs. I've bought mini anvils from Amazon and Ebay all stating that it's ideal for watchmaking and craft's and made of cast iron! Every one of them (must be 10 or more) has dented when hammering with a 2oz hammer and Kanthal A1 wire, the shape of the wire has dented the surface of the Anvil! Very frustrating so I'm looking for an alternative. What would you recommend? Any websites, name & grade of steel etc would be very handy.
    The hardest steel I would be shaping is 316 Stainless Steel wire to 1.6 diameter (welding rods). I've been using a dapping block but there's very little room between the half domes! I'm house bound so it's very difficult to see before I buy and therefore have to rely on the info in the amazon or eBay listings!
    I never thought how exciting wire can be when shaping and working it but it's soooooooooo frustrating when it's harder than my collection of really soft anvils!
    Loving your video's and SUBSCRIBED 👍😉👌

    • @SzarkaCartersss
      @SzarkaCartersss 5 лет назад

      Look into Eurotools and buy the highest quality.

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 2 года назад

      Etsy and Ebay have tools from large jewelry supply companies. Amazon has cheap goods from China where they don't care about their reputations. Both Etsy and Ebay sellers value their feedback reputation and are usually jewelers themselves, so I would direct you here for best jeweler's block. A watch block does not need such hardness. Steel and Cast Iron are both high in compressive strengths with steel having higher tensile strength.
      Why not resurface your existing dented blocks?
      You can grind down the metal with aluminum oxide/ ceramic/ zircon sandpaper in a handheld orbital sander. DeWalt makes a good one. Cheaper tools would be Makita or Ryobi. Make sure its a random orbit sander NOT a palm sander, and that it has variable speed. Ceramic and Zircon sandpaper will cut steel.
      You can polish up the metal block with an angle grinder (Bosch 5 inch paddle switch, variable speed, leave-on switch refurbished Amazon $79). Use 4 - 4.5 inch crimped wire cup brush from Harbor Freight $5. This wire cup will polish up the block, might remove some dents or scratches. Finish up with progressively finer sandpaper till you reach 400 grade. Then just polish it up.
      A nice anti rust coating is from Lowes - Loctite Rust Neutralizer Spray - good for cast iron. Dries clear. Bonds rust to metal and prevents further rusting.

  • @mafia2mom
    @mafia2mom 9 лет назад +1

    Hi funny video first off. Thank you for the smiles.
    In making hair pieces to use with stix. What size/gauge do you suggest.
    The ones I've made are still soft after hammering the crap out of them.

  • @Anjalena
    @Anjalena 11 лет назад +2

    OMG! I am sooooo happy to hear someone else is terrified of their tumbler too! I spent years, frustrated, trying to get the money together to get this device that all the other artisans were using so that I could use this like the experts do. I got it a few years ago and I still haven't used it! I've got my steel shot! But I haven't used it. And yes, I'm terrified of putting work in there with beads on it because I can't imagine how it won't break them! Anyway, I just had to pause your vid to reply to that part. *laugh*

    • @lavendermystic
      @lavendermystic 9 лет назад

      you should not put beads in your tumbler with steel shot...it's only good for metal jewelry. If you add beads afterwards, like dangles, that is another story...

  • @sueharris6978
    @sueharris6978 4 года назад +1

    If I use the leather will it prevent marks on the plated wire?

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  4 года назад

      It should. When hammering plated you might lose the finish though. It can crack off or has to potential to. Test it out with a piece and hammer a bit more gently.

    • @sueharris6978
      @sueharris6978 4 года назад

      @@MagpieGemstonescom OK thanks

  • @oclove1503
    @oclove1503 6 лет назад

    6:05 I think you mean Chuck. not shuck. and the name of what your using is a pen vice. 😁

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the kind words. I will add this idea to the list of tuts to make. Thanks for the idea.

  • @arrowhargis1154
    @arrowhargis1154 5 лет назад +2

    thank you! This was really helpful!

  • @melodief3848
    @melodief3848 11 лет назад +1

    You are so awesome...love your videos...down to earth...real...smart. Thank you. Melodie. Have a great 2013.

  • @notwrkn2mch
    @notwrkn2mch 9 лет назад +1

    When you say a Tumbler, do you mean a small harbor freight type Rock Tumbler..... Just let it tumble dry for a bit?

  • @corinnewilson3149
    @corinnewilson3149 10 лет назад +1

    Ty so much szarka I find your tutorials so very helpful!

  • @gabslife7525
    @gabslife7525 4 года назад +1

    Love the twist hardening technique, thanks!

  • @paigeswanson1491
    @paigeswanson1491 3 года назад +1

    Thank you! This was a huge help :)

  • @donkelley1
    @donkelley1 9 лет назад +1

    Great, direct, simple! Thanks!

  • @oneofyou6773
    @oneofyou6773 3 года назад

    3:06.. False warning... 3:41

  • @bubblefizz9144
    @bubblefizz9144 9 лет назад

    Hi ive been trying to make copper ear wires, they say 20 Gauge is preferable (I prefer 18G) I find 20G is still a bit to "soft" after hammering, I much prefer the 18GAny one else find this or is it just me?and is 18G really to thick for ears? they are fine in my ears :-) but I want to make my own to sell my jewellery

  • @aperk003
    @aperk003 11 лет назад +1

    Great video Szarka! Thanks for the tutorial, personally I am scared to put anything but wire in a tumbler. I so want to learn to use one... Hope you get better soon!

  • @StoneturnerNM
    @StoneturnerNM 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you. Just what i needed.

  • @hanssmidt12
    @hanssmidt12 3 года назад

    Hi

  • @Lapeermi
    @Lapeermi 2 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @morganflaherty9582
    @morganflaherty9582 4 года назад

    Your video went black about two minutes into it but I can still hear you

  • @annawatts5912
    @annawatts5912 3 года назад

    Do you hardening the wire with the twister before shaping your ear wire?

    • @SzarkaCartersss
      @SzarkaCartersss 3 года назад

      I don't usually but that is also a really effective way

  • @carolynkrystoff8049
    @carolynkrystoff8049 8 лет назад +1

    great video! thanks

  • @janpeterson21
    @janpeterson21 4 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    Well the wood will give so yes it will harden it but the metal hammer may cause the metal to change shape somewhat, grab some wire and give it a try until you get the effect you want.

  • @pattenpatti
    @pattenpatti 8 лет назад +1

    I can't find the wire twister that you are using. Thanks for the informative video

    • @Autofonic
      @Autofonic 7 лет назад +1

      I use an archimedes drill for gripping and twisting the wire. They're pretty cheap on ebay. I got mine in a tool shop for about £3.00

  • @TheMayflowerPilgrem
    @TheMayflowerPilgrem 3 года назад

    You can use a bag of casting grain and hand tumble for hardening also.

  • @mysteryguy793
    @mysteryguy793 5 лет назад +1

    can you make beads with only wire?

  • @EdwardBakerenvisionschool
    @EdwardBakerenvisionschool 8 лет назад +3

    Adorable

  • @pricetag30
    @pricetag30 2 года назад

    Why not heat treat with a torch then quench in water?

    • @SzarkaCartersss
      @SzarkaCartersss 2 года назад

      That's the process you use to soften silver and copper wire

  • @lyndaanthony1154
    @lyndaanthony1154 7 лет назад

    will this work on lead free plumbing wire - for like a sculpture?

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    This "Christmas Cold" that everyone seemed to get hangs on pretty good, but I think I am almost over it.

  • @singlemombeads5856
    @singlemombeads5856 9 лет назад

    Thanks for this video. I've never seen the twisting method to harden wire. Will definitely try this. Guess I need to buy a tumbler as well. (Oh, and not a single cough in the video, lol)

  • @kaz4208
    @kaz4208 11 лет назад

    Hi,Thankyou so much for this video...It was very helpful and interesting...Hope you are feeling better soon and look forward to seeing your videos in 2013....Karenlee..From Australia.

  • @jennileeschouten5124
    @jennileeschouten5124 7 лет назад

    Thanks heaps, I really appreciate people like you sharing your tips and tricks. Cheers Yenzo

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    I use a piece of leather, there are pillows for them out there in the world somewhere made of leather and filled with sand to muffle the noise.

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    Well I am not sure I am doing it right, I am just doing it LOL

  • @tammimccormick7300
    @tammimccormick7300 10 лет назад

    Hello love your video, in hardening wire using a trumbler , say I was making a expandable bangle , would I make the bangle then place it in a tumbler, or harden the wire before I made the bangle ? I know this is a dumb question, I just want to do it right. Thank u so much

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  9 лет назад

      tammi mccormick I would harden afterwards. You might be surprised how much your wire will work harden as you make the piece.

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    You can get them at any bead store or online jewelry tool store, they are pretty inexpensive as well.

  • @meanttobehere12
    @meanttobehere12 6 лет назад

    Twisting the wire for hardening, that was new to me. Thank you so much, have a good day.

  • @LivingHorses
    @LivingHorses 4 года назад

    Thank you for this

  • @BeeKisses
    @BeeKisses 3 года назад

    Thankyou so much for this xx

  • @Inspirations4me2013
    @Inspirations4me2013 11 лет назад

    You are great - would love to meet you. Really appreciate the technique - guess I was doing it right!

  • @maryimhogiemhe4408
    @maryimhogiemhe4408 5 лет назад

    i will try it and let you know how it goes
    thank you

  • @becceflint8793
    @becceflint8793 3 года назад

    Interesting thanks, was thinking heat would be used😂goes to show what I know! So much easier than I thought!

  • @dmbadcat
    @dmbadcat 9 лет назад

    Informative! Thx for putting this up

  • @gailtaylor878
    @gailtaylor878 11 лет назад

    Thanks so much for all the great information. I have been looking forever for a tutorial on how to make petal or lotus shaped earrings. You know it looks like a v at the bottom and then rounds at the top like a hoop. Do you think you could show us that technique? thank you, get well.

  • @limpfishyes
    @limpfishyes 6 лет назад

    How to starts at: 3:49

  • @Johmeyful
    @Johmeyful 11 лет назад

    what do you put underneath the square metal block?

  • @rondoschiavoni8840
    @rondoschiavoni8840 6 лет назад

    I need to make my model airplane front nose gear wire with a spring coil more harder how can I Do that?

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  6 лет назад

      Different metals harden in different ways. If you can figure out the metal it's made from and do a Google search on annealing and hardening that particular metal you might get somewhere.

  • @barbarakelly6519
    @barbarakelly6519 10 лет назад

    Thank you for this, but can you tell me how to harden homemade jump rings. Mine always open whenever I try and I have been using the bench block and a hammer. Should I try using leather?

    • @flyingcheff
      @flyingcheff 10 лет назад +1

      Tumble anything to harden the metal. That said, you can't expect an UN-soldered jump ring to hold it's own against a good pull. I recommend soldering your jump rings. Good luck!

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  10 лет назад

      I have no problems making jump rings that will hold. The secret is a heavy enough gauge of wire and the diameter of the wire. Barbara they will open when you hammer them and then you have to close them again. Watch more of my videos and you will see how and what I mean. RUclips won't let me post links.

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    Thanks Karen that is sweet of you.

  • @MagpieGemstonescom
    @MagpieGemstonescom  11 лет назад

    Thanks Melodie.

  • @painting55
    @painting55 9 лет назад

    Nice of you to share. I really already know there are harder wires. Why not just get into "how to harden soft wire".

    • @elizabethcliburn7098
      @elizabethcliburn7098 8 лет назад

      +painting55 I'm brand new at this, so I appreciated all the info :-)

    • @deborahbeattie9103
      @deborahbeattie9103 5 лет назад +2

      You expect the video to be personally tailored for you?

  • @Ciucetta90
    @Ciucetta90 11 лет назад

    thank you soooo much! very helpful.

  • @itailu
    @itailu 7 лет назад

    thanks :)

  • @morwenna
    @morwenna 11 лет назад +2

    Thank you! I just started making wire-wrapped jewelry and have been using soft-tempered half round wire. I'm so glad to learn that it doesn't take much pounding with a soft hammer to harden it.

  • @joervin2927
    @joervin2927 8 лет назад

    is a tumbler used for hardening wire too?

  • @samoeunthet3399
    @samoeunthet3399 11 лет назад

    Great info!

  • @marynovacek
    @marynovacek 10 лет назад

    Can you also harden aluminum wire?

    • @MagpieGemstonescom
      @MagpieGemstonescom  10 лет назад

      It really doesn't like to be hardened. You basically have to go up gauges to get the strength you need.

    • @marynovacek
      @marynovacek 10 лет назад

      Thank you.

  • @suzannecrawford5698
    @suzannecrawford5698 11 лет назад

    Will a regular metal hammer and a block of wood do the job?