Sceptile suffered the most of the physical/special split. They either should’ve gotten more special moves to compensate or even switch the attacking stats so it becomes a physical attacker.
Radical red somewhat fixes this by making Mega Sceptile swap its attack and sp attack stats and gives it the Technician ability. Actually makes Mega Sceptile probably the best non legendary/mega in the game because of the move set it learns on the physical side
@@MichaelMcCloud29listen I love Sceptile the most out of any starter but there is no way it’s the best non legendary mega even with a higher physical attack. 145 base attack is high site but you still need a swords dance to claim Ko’s cuz Leafblade and dragon claw just aren’t strong enough for physical stab. I wish it got tinted lens as an ability so that you could fire off Nuclear powered Leaf storms without fear.
@@newjumpcityjosh9333 it gets scale shot, bullet seed, tons of coverage moves like rock smash/lowsweep, rock tomb, aerial ace and other moves that can be useful like earthquake and drain punch with 1 turn of SW, 2 stabs and any coverage move like earthquake for steels and drainpunch for healing it just OHKO everything in the game in radical red! the fact you could get mega sceptile with most of this before gym 5 was crazy, it was so broken it megastone has been moved to pre victory entrance battle in new update and even without Sw it amazing cause stab bullet seed and scale shot with technician with good rolls can do massive damage and Ohko!
@@newjumpcityjosh9333Even before the stat change initially it had technician boosted Mega Drain, which was boosted to 60BP and I think magical leaf and dragon breath were all useful. But physically double kick, aerial ace, bullet seed, dual chop or scale shot are crazy. There are other busted mons in the game but honestly every playthrough including hardcore mode had Sceptile unbelievably reliable. Bulldoze is another golden coverage move
Have you considered giving Grovyle Twister before Dragon Breath? Dragon Breath inflicting Paralysis is pretty powerful on top of the 60 BP. Twister also has a chance of negating a move via Flinching, but its base power is lower at 40. The only other thing that could be an issue with Twister is that it hits both opponents in a double battle. There are just not a lot of Dragon Type Moves at this point in the series though, so I'm guessing choosing which attacks to give Grovyle wasn't as easy as it seems.
Dragonbreath & Mud Shot & Double Kick all have strengths. Hitting twice breaks subs & bands, lowering speed can create effective 1 hits, & Para is Para Add to it, Fighting & Ground are great offensive types, while Dragon doesn't hit anything effectively besides Dragon (in the E4)
You're on the right track. Dragon-type attacks actually shouldn't receive the same treatment as other types. Specifically, the Neutral-coverage of Dragon-type attacks is massive-only resisted by Steel and untouchable to Fairy. This means a 60-power move is "always 60 power" for almost everything across the board. Giving less power in exchange for guaranteed coverage is "how the attack is balanced". DragonBreath is actually on the "same level" as Dragon Pulse (80-BP), a later-stage move. Giving it early as Smith suggests is like giving outrage out at level 16...
Hmmmm... as a huge Sceptile lover myself, I find this change more flavorful than practical. I was really underwhelmed by how Sceptile kept being OHKO'ed by Ice attacks that it usually survives with low health, like Kingdra, Sealeo and Tentacruel. In that sense, Dragon type was more of a detriment than a blessing (because usually Sceptile can score two hits and potentially get into Overgrow range on those fights), and it made clear to me that we need to ascertain Sceptile's role as a starter option. I, personally, always saw Sceptile as having that early game clean fight on Roxanne, and then underperforming all the way in the early to mid game until Tate&Liza and all the water filled routes. This is even more noticeable in Emerald, with the double down on Water Boss trainers at the end of the game. In the early game, Grass/Dragon Grovyle really shines, but at the same time I don't really think this is a very warranted change... because it changes the dinamic of Sceptile by sacrificing a little bit of the end game, for the early game. I think you sold me on the Flannery fight, that one does feel fair enough. But the way Grovyle was trumping over Watson felt a bit too much, maybe. I personally think that the major change Sceptile needs is on the moveset: making it so Mega Drain is also learnable by Grovyle is important (and not just fucking Treecko at level 22... who in their right mind thought delaying Treecko's evolution level for such a small power boost was a good idea), and I also love the addition of Dragonbreath as an evolutionary move for Treecko. Even if neither Grovyle or even Sceptile become Dragon type without the Mega, it's a really cool move for this line to have, that also provides it with a nasty 30% chance to paralyze the opponent (Sceptile otherwise gets a wapping ZERO utility moves... which is usually the bread and butter thing of Grass types). Very importantly, thought, I would make Leaf Blade a 90 power move. There's no excuse for Leaf Blade to be such an ass move compared to both Blaziken and Swampert's signature moves, who don't even really need them to begin with, since Blaziken would rather use Flamethrower and Swampert Surf. So, Sceptile, the only one of the Starters dependent on using it's signature move (so it doesn't have to resort to Solarbeam...) is stuck with a 70 power move... that's atrocious. By giving it this power boost, the rest of the changes can also be added upon it. Now, Sceptile can OHKO more easily those pesky Ice Beam carrying water types, and thus, giving it Dragon typing no longer seems like a negative. Like, your Sceptile couldn't OHKO a Sealeo!! How sad is that!? With this simple change, the high risk high reward nature of adding the Dragon type to Sceptile feels much more balanced in the late game, and potentially compensates for the underperforming nature of Grovyle in the early game that I think should stay the same (even with a far better moveset with Mega Drain and Dragonbreath as options).
All good insights, though I will also note that Leaf Blade partly compensates for lower base power with an increased crit rate, though on a pokemon without Focus Energy or a Scope Lens, this really isn't common enough to matter. On the other hand, Muddy Water has a chance to lower accuracy and can hit two targets, and Blaze Kick has a higher crit rate AND can inflict burns, so maybe buffing Leafe Blade could be nice. On the OTHER hand, Leaf Blade has 100% accuracy, Muddy Water and Blaze Kick don't., but I guess if Leaf Blade's only going to have one beneficial boost to it in its higher crit rate whereas the other two signature moves get two each, 100% accuracy's fair.
@@Maaarrrrkit would be more than worth the trade off if sceptile also got a stab Draco meteor to fire off, since it has respectable spatk and good speed. If it still had to rely on dragon pulse though it wouldn’t help that much
Giving Dragon type to Sceptile would definitely make Sceptile more balanced with the other starters. I hope you do Emerald Legacy and expand to other Pokemon games.
Dragonbreath is still resisted by Steel while Combusken and Marshtomp have hard counters to Magneton, so that definitely doesn’t put Grovyle too far ahead
while that is sorta true it kinda makes me think that possibly the addition of dragon typing at the very least would open up grovyles movepool just enough for some more useful move variety since dragon types have never shyed away from even learning moves of types they are even weak against! But even if grovyle couldn't learn anything super effective it would at the very least be double resistant to electric typing moves so it would mostly be able to wall any incoming shock waves or thunderbolts.
@@AlldaylongRock Two of the elemental punches sounds like a really solid idea for move tutor possibilities! I was also thinking the grovyle could be able to learn flamethrower by TM since many dragons can. I also have been thinking leech seed may be a small but very good early game move addition to treeko and grovyle since the whole line can learn bullet seed.
Emerald is only perfect to an extent. I feel that it should have been on par with Ruby and Sapphire and even the remakes, at least with the Pokémon the NPC own without having to rely on duplicates. Why the Sinnoh games gave the first two gym leaders three Pokémon is beyond me.
I would say to be more thematically fitting, give Treecko Bullet Seed as the next early move. To make this change also more on par with the other starters, have Bullet Seeds base power be 20 instead of 10 so it is at least guaranteed to be 40 power at worst.
The issue with that is that you're given bullet seed as soon as you leave petalburg woods. So you effectively get it and quick attack at the same time (when your treeko is probably around level 11-ish)
Given that swampert learns earthquake and blaziken has access to TM Fire blast and overheat, maybe having sceptile learn Outrage at level 55 or so, just in time to get it for the champion or for drake if you farm a bit would be a good idea. You could also give blaziken access to superpower at that level to give the pokemon a strong attack against last elite four and champion so that it doesn't feel that weak there.
This is always why I liked Blaziken. Blaziken is strong but has its weaknesses. Sceptile always felt weak sauce and Swampert always felt like I could solo half the game with the rest of the team just dedicated to its weaknesses.
IKR? Plus it’s been 6 generations and not one starter has a 535 BST since Swampert. Not counting the 534 ones. And starting from Gen 7, all the starters equally have a 530 BST but like to see 534 or 535 again.
I think I heard the story that Sceptile's second type was supposed to be Dark(and the leftover, it is Pursuit in the moveset), but the creators felt the type Dark was so underdeveloped that they decided to abandon this idea.
@@grunkleg.2934 Sure, I am not saying that is 100% truth. It is just a story that I have heard long time ago. But if you see that Gen 3 add just one dark attack, while Gen 4 add 5 more and all with power above 50, then you might think that it was really something going on.
Also, perhaps not Sceptile, but Grovyle has some attitude which we often see in dark type mons. If nothing else I think thematically it fits. My guess would be that they abandoned it because it'd mean Grovyle would be weak to both of Combusken's stab moves.
Gen 3 is the only gen where i genuinely adore all 3 starters and have used all 3 multiple times in every playthrough. every gen before or since has at least one that either i don't really like or seriously hate, because of evolutions or otherwise
It is kinda hilarious, that you showed the effect of the addition of Vine Whip to treeckos moveset in the Roxanne Battle next to a crit absorb and that stating that Vine whip Is a faster way, while the crit dealt as much damage 😂
I had a chance to experience something like this when I realized that Treecko has the egg moves Dragonbreath and Crunch, and did a playthrough with one that had those moves. Even mostly avoiding Crunch, Treecko's early game capability skyrocketed, really showing just how much it suffers from its movepool.
Hm, how about Twister at level 16? Thematically it makes sense because it looks like it can create winds circulating its limbs. It's weaker than Mud Shot and might require moving Dragonbreath a little later, sure, but it's also unresisted. Fury cutter is so wack on it dude
Crystal Legacy has somehow made it so even if it's something as trivial as a single pokemon type change, as long as it says "SmithPlaysPokemon" at the channel part I will click.
i always thought another great change for sceptile post gen 3 would be swapping attack and special attack so it can continue to use its "signature move" leaf blade. it should also get the ability sharpness post gen9
Honestly Gen III Sceptile only needs the 90 base attack and then post Gen III should get Dragon Dance which it currently gets now. Which is fair considering that Sceptile has a -5 lower BST than Swampert However I think Gen V and VI could do more for Sceptile if they replaced it’s hidden/Mega ability with something like Technician before reworking it to Sharpness in Gen IX
I'd personally say giving Grovyle Razor leaf, and Twister, instead of that early Vine whip and Dragon Breath. I agree on giving it Dragonbreath in the early 20's is better. Id say level 6/7= absorb. Level 15= Razor Leaf. And on evolution it learns Twister. Then at 22 or 23 it learns Dragon Breath, then Leaf Blade at 27-29.
I find people overvalue dragon types early game as they expect them to be offensive monsters from out the gate. Whereas my argument for early dragons will always be that the defensive qualities of the type are its real strength in the early game, hence why I like to use dratini as a starter mon when playing roms.
Changing Absorb to Vine Whip and buffing it is a good change, though I think you could've upped its PP too. Around 25 seems more appropriate for such a weak move. I disagree about raising the learning level of Dragon Breath. I don't think it's that overpowered compared to Double Kick and Mud Shot. Sure, Dragon type has great neutral coverage, but the other starters' secondary STABs are at least as good, arguably better. Ground and Fighting have excellent super-effective coverage, hitting five types each. They're also both physical, meaning they benefit from Roxanne's +10% Attack badge boost too. Finally, Leaf Blade probably should've been buffed to its modern power of 90. It's only fair. The other Hoenn starters' signature moves are already of similar strength with better offensive typings to boot (Grass is resisted by as many types as Water and Fire combined!) and hard-hitting moves are especially important for frail, speedy attackers like Sceptile.
I feel like while vine whip might be thematically appropriate for a 40 base power grass move, it just doesnt work for treecko, since i dont feel it has any vines to whip lol, maybe bump up the power of absorb or give it mega drain sooner?
@@SquirrelGamingProductions even in gen 3 thats good, energy ball and such didn't exist yet. I recently replayed leafgreen and i gave up on victreebel once i saw its moveset
@@I_Am_Bowi 100%, Leaf Blade could only be learned by Grovyle & was legitimately the only good offensive Grass move until Gen 4 added Energy Ball, Power Whip, Wood Hammer & Seed Flare Poor Meganium didn't get Petal Blizzard until like last Gen, and that should've been its Gen 2 signature
I really appreciate you adding the links in the description and explaining how to actually play these ROM hacks. I've wanted to play randomized pokemon games for SOOOOO long and Legacy Crystal was my first, plus it led me to playing through Randomized Emerald and now Randomized Black 2!
If it was part Dragon, players would have a slightly harder time with Glacia. Other than that, it wouldn't buff Sceptile that much. Maybe a few good coverage and resistance.
Interesting to see a playthrough of fairly vanilla Emerald with a Dragon Sceptile. I think it's not commonly done without a major difficulty shift in the game because everyone assumes it's too strong. It's interesting to see that idea actually put to the test. That said, I always wanted to see Sceptile end up as a Grass/Flying type. Grovyle always felt like it was leaning that way, and I miss those design motifs in Sceptile's designs. (Also, I can't imagine the backlash from Charizard fans if gen 3 Sceptile got the Dragon type when Zard didn't.) Great video. Much enjoyed. ^.^
I just finished your Crystal Legacy game and I just wanted to say that I absolutely loved it! Every single gym leader caught me off guard and they often wiped 5 out of my 6 pokemon, whereas normally I'd 1 hit KO every gym leader and Elite Four member in the base Crystal game. And I absolutely loved using Gen II only pokemon. So well done! You created a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Thank you.
Omg, I was inspired by your Crystal Legacy vids and started modding Emerald myself a couple of months ago. I gave drought to Torkoal and Entei and drizzle on poliwrath and raikou and made Maxie and Archie’s teams an evolution of Rain and Sun strategies. Steven’s team is a competitive Sand team with Jirachi, Skarm Metagross Cradily Swampert and TTar
2:30 We have seen starters that break the 3 type trio. Empoleon is great example where it loses its weakness to grass and it's resistance to fire, at the same time becoming super weak go Infernape's and Torterra's secondary types. On the other hand still having solid coverage in Flying and Ice against both of them. With how weak to Ice Grass/Dragon is, it's a solid trade-off. As both of the other starters keep neutral damage, thanks to the secondary types and both of then also get SE coverage moves either in learnset or through TMs , with Flying and Ice types.
oh yeah this change is amazing I played through Renegade Platinum with a Sceptile and he had Dragon Typing in that mod and it was amazing once I got him to learn Draco Meteor he was unstoppable after that!
In the ROM hack for Gale of Darkness, Pokémon XG: Next Gen, Sceptile was part Dragon. It could have Lightning Rod as an ability, you could teach it Draco Meteor pretty early, and it had Hidden Power Fire to deal with Ice. The best strategy was to use Substitute, use Giga Drain to get back that HP, use Draco Meteor to hit hard, and pair it with your Manectric that knows Discharge to raise your Special Attack back up.
I think the line shouldn't get the dragon type until sceptile. Unlike fighting and ground, dragons are meant to be rare so it should be a long-awaited reward for getting to the late game
Feeling like twister instead of dragon breath at 16 would feel less broken and take advantage of grovyles speed for the stun lock. Dragon typing at 60+stab plus chance to paralyze IS way better than the others. Don't really see the need for the quick attack swap if it gets a dragon move at 16 as well.. Love the content man, just voicing my opinion.
I've always given Sceptile dragon claw, so I feel like this change fits so well. You're really opening up a can of worms with this video stoking desire for an Emerald Legacy!
I love this addition a lot. Sceptile has always been my favourite Starter and when the Gen 3 remakes were announced I was so hyped to try a new and improved Sceptile with its Mega Evolution. You could imagine my disappointment when the only Dragon move it got via level up in Omega Ruby was Dual Chop, with its Mega's ability being Lightning Rod.
I think you should make Treecko learn Bullet Seed by Level 10 and buff it to 25 BP. This gives it's a unique Starting Grass move and it's know from the anime. Vine whip was on Bulbasaur, Razor Leaf on Chikorita, and repeating the same Starting Grass move seems silly.
some changes which would effect it in ADV OU: >although its now neutral to fire, Sceptiles bulk probably wouldnt let it handle stab fire blasts or flamethrowers from Moltres or Charizard. However, it would be better against HP fire celebi, or gengar or jirachi fire punch, etc >its now 4x weak to ice, meaning blissey can very easily shut it down, so can many of the teirs bulky waters >it could threaten to OHKO mons like Salamence and flygon >its still walled by steels, but it could run HP Fire for that.
A physical attacking Sceptile with Grass/Dragon typing, switched Atk/Sp.Atk stats and Sharpness as Hidden Ability (as its arm leafs are extremely sharp) with Leaf Blade, Dragon Claw and other cutting moves as moveset would make for a very engaging sweeper
I've always treated the Treeko line as being part dragon, so this works fantastically as a much-needed buff, while preserving the Legacy design philosophy.
Ooooh! I love this typing! That brings me to a question that I was hoping you might ponder: What secondary typing do y'all think would suit Serperior? Aesthetically, it's one of my favorite starters of all time but I feel that it could definitely use a secondary. I thought maybe dragon would suit the serpentine aesthetic and it does have dragon type moves in its learn pool. Thoughts?
@@Jordan-rNvgQ it actually does... in black & white 2. Via move tutor, it gets access to aqua tail, iron tail, dragon pulse & outrage right before Clay. Which gives it coverage not only for Clay's excadrill, but also gives it coverage for super effective Fire and Ice types - and coverage against dragon and iris' dragons. It also gets knock off via tutors, but this is pre-buff knock off and it's not as good in a normal play through. The only real issue is that they aren't available in black & white 1. So the most impactful buff there would just be to import the move tutors. Since it allows for you to either be a Coil set up sweeper OR a calm mind "unkillable" special sweeper with giga drain, synthesis (another move tutor move), and/or leech seed.
Honestly I’m surprised that you didn’t buff Sceptile’s BST to 535 to even it’s match to Swampert but also buff it’s attack stat to 90 to make more use of its physical movepool coverage. Same with giving Sceptile Outrage maybe at level 52 being it’s strongest Gen III move.
Oh hey I did that too a while ago in vanilla Emerald and a rom hack I edited a tiny bit myself. Really makes Sceptile a lot more fun to use, so I think this is a good choice, judging from my own experience.
I was considering making this exact change in my romhack updating Drayano's 2009 Fire Red Omega, but Grass/Dragon has a lot of weaknesses Excited to watch this
Hey Smith, are you guys going to add a Day/Night cycle to Pokemon Emerald Legacy? It felt a little out of place missing that feature in the original, Also again if you guys can somehow fix the starter Rng that would be cool. I am getting an Everdrive GBA to play Yellow and Crystal Legacy can't wait to try them out.
Sceptile, on the other hand, gets early access to Leaf Blade (Lv. 29), and makes good use of Dragon Claw even without STAB; otherwise, it also gets Earthquake, Aerial Ace, Brick Break, and Return. Unlike Blaziken, though, giving Sceptile the once-per-game Earthquake TM makes more sense, as it doesn't have Fighting STAB that overlaps with it. Sceptile does well with Leaf Blade/Dragon Claw/Earthquake as his three main moves, with maybe False Swipe for catching Legends.
Solo type pokemon could definitely receive some sort of additional boost to compensate. For example mono type pokemon would get not 50%, but 75% STAB bonus. Simple change yet it would help a great deal.
Think you could also do a hypothetical fix for Serperior in gen5? It has a terrible movepool and performs way worse than the other two through the entire game
Serperior is stuck with a Charmander problem, moreso then just not having a good movepool. half of the gyms just straight counter it, and only Katy Perry and Bobby Flay are countered by the snake.
if Dragonbreath feels too powerful for that early there's always Twister or even Dragon Rage. which yeah fixed damage move, doesn't interact with being the type. but the reliability could still be a boon
I feel like electric type with the yellow bulbs works so much better, it helps it deal with flying types, and thunderwave or "electric net" (sorry forgot the attacks name, and its techically not in gen3) would work with it so well as a kind of bulky support with alot of speed- or you go for a sweeper that can deal with flying, one of its biggest weaknesses. I felt like dragon visually never made sense and gave it too much resistance, even ignoring the removal of fire weakness. without fairy, its actually hard to deal with sceptile in lategame.
What about giving it a stronger dark type, which is also a special type. It gets Pursuit, Crunch via breeding, and in later Gens night slash, so something like feint attack seems nice to add a bit more special coverage. Maybe give it even crunch per level up around the late 40s for the ghosts
It's fun for random gameplay, but it breaks the circle of effectiveness of the starters, I think for an "Emerald Legacy" the best would be to either leave it as a dragon and add an ability to take fire damage, or leave it just grass and add an ability to deal super effective dragon damage, or just put dragon moves in learn set, idk
When I played Emerald before ORAS released, Treecko was my starter; I had used Mudkip so much growing up, I wanted to see what he could do. Unfortunately, I think it got the short end of the stick when it came to the starters; its stats are at odds with its movepool; no secondary typing; and a mediocre signature move. It was still useful a few times, but it didn’t feel like it was viable throughout. I want to fix that. Starting off, the line should trade away some of its Sp. Def and a little Sp. Att for Att and Spd; this gives the line the distinction it wants to attack first for its own benefit. Mudkip’s line is meant to be resilient through bulk and typing and Torchic’s line is meant to hit hard with average speed. Attacking first, given the right moves, makes the line play with a “death by a thousand cuts” mindset. I don’t think Vine Whip is necessary as the TM for Bullet Seed is obtainable very early and, on average, will hit harder than Vine Whip. Normally, it can learn Mud-Slap via a Move Tutor. But giving it to the line through level up gives it some early coverage and some survivability through lowering accuracy (I’d also buff its power from 20 to 40 and increase the PP from 10 to 20). Fury Cutter is the worst move the line could get from Treecko to Grovyle, so I think they should get Bite instead (it gets Crunch through breeding, so it should be capable of using its mouth to fight); it could play into its own survivability by causing enemies to flinch. And finally the move I would change is Leaf Blade; BP could change from 70 to 80 and would have guaranteed critical hits. Blaze Kick is Blaziken’s signature move and better normally in every way. Having guaranteed critical hits as early as level 29 gives the line some edge against its competition that have to wait until later for their best moves. As for its typing, Dragon and Dark seem the most applicable, but given the above set, Dark is my preferred option.
giving grovyle mega drain at lvl16 would be okay I think? Marshtomb and combusken claim a 60 Base Power move in double kick and mud shot (55) while dragon breath is way to strong for gym2. Mega Drain udgrades vine whip with an amazing secondary effect until lvl22 where it can dish out massive unresisted dragon offense. I would rather go as far giving treeko vine whip at 6 and leech seed at 11. So it has more tools to support until it gets dragon breath at 23. (maybe quick attack instead of tackle at 1? Tackle sucks so hard after all)
Pretty sure the reason Treeko doesn't get Vine Whip (other than it being a gecko and not having plant matter to whip with) is that it gets Bullet Seed by TM after Petalburg.
@@michaeljohnston6783 It’s not strong enough to make much of a difference though. Bullet Seed only has 10 BP in Gen 3 and over 70% of the time it will be weaker than Vine Whip. Also it’s not a stretch to think that Treecko could use its long tail like a vine.
If you consider doing an Emerald Legacy, what do you think about making a lot more of the Gym Battles into Double Battles? Double Battles were a big draw to this gen, and there is a lot that could be done with double battles for gyms. Namely Norman, who could have his Slaking's Truant Ability swapped or negated via Role Play or Skill Swap. Contenders for Norman's potential Skill Swap Strategy are Stantler (85 base speed and role play + bonus intimidate), Tauros (110 base speed and role play + bonus Intimidate - Gets it in HGSS), Girafarig (85 speed and Skill Swap), and, the best option in Gen, Spinda (60 Speed and Skill Swap)
@@I_Am_Bowi Just looked into it. That is something Norman does in the rematches, yeah. He does have the issue of his Skill Swappers being Blissey and Spinda though. Neither of them are faster than Slaking, so they wouldn’t be able to take advantage of it fully. Norman does have a Tauros in his Fourth Rematch though, but it doesn’t have Skill Swap.
For my personal hack Instead of Vine Whip I just buffed Bullet Seed to be a perfect grass clone of Arm Thrust (10BP > 15BP). It's a small but noticeable improvement that makes it feel on par with Ember and Water Gun.
This feels like step 1 to an…Emerald Legacy?
Please, for the love of God yes
I hope so...
Pleeease let it be Step 1 towards Emerald Legacy!
I would lose it
If he did, slay
Sceptile suffered the most of the physical/special split. They either should’ve gotten more special moves to compensate or even switch the attacking stats so it becomes a physical attacker.
Radical red somewhat fixes this by making Mega Sceptile swap its attack and sp attack stats and gives it the Technician ability. Actually makes Mega Sceptile probably the best non legendary/mega in the game because of the move set it learns on the physical side
@@MichaelMcCloud29listen I love Sceptile the most out of any starter but there is no way it’s the best non legendary mega even with a higher physical attack. 145 base attack is high site but you still need a swords dance to claim Ko’s cuz Leafblade and dragon claw just aren’t strong enough for physical stab. I wish it got tinted lens as an ability so that you could fire off Nuclear powered Leaf storms without fear.
@@newjumpcityjosh9333 it gets scale shot, bullet seed, tons of coverage moves like rock smash/lowsweep, rock tomb, aerial ace and other moves that can be useful like earthquake and drain punch with 1 turn of SW, 2 stabs and any coverage move like earthquake for steels and drainpunch for healing it just OHKO everything in the game in radical red! the fact you could get mega sceptile with most of this before gym 5 was crazy, it was so broken it megastone has been moved to pre victory entrance battle in new update and even without Sw it amazing cause stab bullet seed and scale shot with technician with good rolls can do massive damage and Ohko!
Yea for ingame that would help so much more i agree.@@Passbyword
@@newjumpcityjosh9333Even before the stat change initially it had technician boosted Mega Drain, which was boosted to 60BP and I think magical leaf and dragon breath were all useful. But physically double kick, aerial ace, bullet seed, dual chop or scale shot are crazy. There are other busted mons in the game but honestly every playthrough including hardcore mode had Sceptile unbelievably reliable. Bulldoze is another golden coverage move
I would love an Emerald Legacy… Crystal Legacy is definitive to me.
Have you considered giving Grovyle Twister before Dragon Breath? Dragon Breath inflicting Paralysis is pretty powerful on top of the 60 BP. Twister also has a chance of negating a move via Flinching, but its base power is lower at 40. The only other thing that could be an issue with Twister is that it hits both opponents in a double battle.
There are just not a lot of Dragon Type Moves at this point in the series though, so I'm guessing choosing which attacks to give Grovyle wasn't as easy as it seems.
Dragonbreath & Mud Shot & Double Kick all have strengths. Hitting twice breaks subs & bands, lowering speed can create effective 1 hits, & Para is Para
Add to it, Fighting & Ground are great offensive types, while Dragon doesn't hit anything effectively besides Dragon (in the E4)
You're on the right track. Dragon-type attacks actually shouldn't receive the same treatment as other types. Specifically, the Neutral-coverage of Dragon-type attacks is massive-only resisted by Steel and untouchable to Fairy. This means a 60-power move is "always 60 power" for almost everything across the board. Giving less power in exchange for guaranteed coverage is "how the attack is balanced".
DragonBreath is actually on the "same level" as Dragon Pulse (80-BP), a later-stage move. Giving it early as Smith suggests is like giving outrage out at level 16...
Hmmmm... as a huge Sceptile lover myself, I find this change more flavorful than practical. I was really underwhelmed by how Sceptile kept being OHKO'ed by Ice attacks that it usually survives with low health, like Kingdra, Sealeo and Tentacruel. In that sense, Dragon type was more of a detriment than a blessing (because usually Sceptile can score two hits and potentially get into Overgrow range on those fights), and it made clear to me that we need to ascertain Sceptile's role as a starter option. I, personally, always saw Sceptile as having that early game clean fight on Roxanne, and then underperforming all the way in the early to mid game until Tate&Liza and all the water filled routes. This is even more noticeable in Emerald, with the double down on Water Boss trainers at the end of the game. In the early game, Grass/Dragon Grovyle really shines, but at the same time I don't really think this is a very warranted change... because it changes the dinamic of Sceptile by sacrificing a little bit of the end game, for the early game.
I think you sold me on the Flannery fight, that one does feel fair enough. But the way Grovyle was trumping over Watson felt a bit too much, maybe. I personally think that the major change Sceptile needs is on the moveset: making it so Mega Drain is also learnable by Grovyle is important (and not just fucking Treecko at level 22... who in their right mind thought delaying Treecko's evolution level for such a small power boost was a good idea), and I also love the addition of Dragonbreath as an evolutionary move for Treecko. Even if neither Grovyle or even Sceptile become Dragon type without the Mega, it's a really cool move for this line to have, that also provides it with a nasty 30% chance to paralyze the opponent (Sceptile otherwise gets a wapping ZERO utility moves... which is usually the bread and butter thing of Grass types). Very importantly, thought, I would make Leaf Blade a 90 power move. There's no excuse for Leaf Blade to be such an ass move compared to both Blaziken and Swampert's signature moves, who don't even really need them to begin with, since Blaziken would rather use Flamethrower and Swampert Surf. So, Sceptile, the only one of the Starters dependent on using it's signature move (so it doesn't have to resort to Solarbeam...) is stuck with a 70 power move... that's atrocious.
By giving it this power boost, the rest of the changes can also be added upon it. Now, Sceptile can OHKO more easily those pesky Ice Beam carrying water types, and thus, giving it Dragon typing no longer seems like a negative. Like, your Sceptile couldn't OHKO a Sealeo!! How sad is that!?
With this simple change, the high risk high reward nature of adding the Dragon type to Sceptile feels much more balanced in the late game, and potentially compensates for the underperforming nature of Grovyle in the early game that I think should stay the same (even with a far better moveset with Mega Drain and Dragonbreath as options).
Liking this and leaving this comment so that this makes into Emerald Legacy
All good insights, though I will also note that Leaf Blade partly compensates for lower base power with an increased crit rate, though on a pokemon without Focus Energy or a Scope Lens, this really isn't common enough to matter. On the other hand, Muddy Water has a chance to lower accuracy and can hit two targets, and Blaze Kick has a higher crit rate AND can inflict burns, so maybe buffing Leafe Blade could be nice. On the OTHER hand, Leaf Blade has 100% accuracy, Muddy Water and Blaze Kick don't., but I guess if Leaf Blade's only going to have one beneficial boost to it in its higher crit rate whereas the other two signature moves get two each, 100% accuracy's fair.
I used to love breeding Treecko with Dragonbreath- just felt very right on it
you what now
Dragon breath and thunder punch were always a must for me
@@Ahi_tuna_I prefer dragon breath an crunch
Dragon-typing would give Sceptile its much-needed buff
But at the same time a downfall cause of the x4
@@Maaarrrrkit would be more than worth the trade off if sceptile also got a stab Draco meteor to fire off, since it has respectable spatk and good speed. If it still had to rely on dragon pulse though it wouldn’t help that much
@@Maaarrrrkswampert also has a 4x weakness
@@A.R_69it's to grass, the ass type, ice is the nice type!
@A.R_69 ya but it's a good typing cause of ONE weakness. Grass and dragon have alot of weaknesses
Giving Dragon type to Sceptile would definitely make Sceptile more balanced with the other starters. I hope you do Emerald Legacy and expand to other Pokemon games.
The key takeaway here is that Swampert is really freaking good
Oh no, is smith gonna start focussing on gen 3 now and give us a gen 3 remaster 😂
Oh yes
Oh no?
OH YES
Dragonbreath is still resisted by Steel while Combusken and Marshtomp have hard counters to Magneton, so that definitely doesn’t put Grovyle too far ahead
while that is sorta true it kinda makes me think that possibly the addition of dragon typing at the very least would open up grovyles movepool just enough for some more useful move variety since dragon types have never shyed away from even learning moves of types they are even weak against! But even if grovyle couldn't learn anything super effective it would at the very least be double resistant to electric typing moves so it would mostly be able to wall any incoming shock waves or thunderbolts.
Except dragon/grass quad resists electric
@@MrH4ppyBirthdayIce Punch, Fire Punch and Thunder Punch would be fitting.
@@AlldaylongRock Two of the elemental punches sounds like a really solid idea for move tutor possibilities! I was also thinking the grovyle could be able to learn flamethrower by TM since many dragons can.
I also have been thinking leech seed may be a small but very good early game move addition to treeko and grovyle since the whole line can learn bullet seed.
Playing your Gen 2 Crystal Legacy game, really fun. IS there a chance you would give Emerald the same treatment?
Emerald is almost perfect already besides shallow movepool and no physical and special split
Does it need it?
Emerald has many established ROM hacks that perfect it, whether u want classic, modern, or hardcore gameplay
Probably why he put out this feeler video.
Emerald is only perfect to an extent. I feel that it should have been on par with Ruby and Sapphire and even the remakes, at least with the Pokémon the NPC own without having to rely on duplicates. Why the Sinnoh games gave the first two gym leaders three Pokémon is beyond me.
I would say to be more thematically fitting, give Treecko Bullet Seed as the next early move. To make this change also more on par with the other starters, have Bullet Seeds base power be 20 instead of 10 so it is at least guaranteed to be 40 power at worst.
The issue with that is that you're given bullet seed as soon as you leave petalburg woods. So you effectively get it and quick attack at the same time (when your treeko is probably around level 11-ish)
Yeah much rather that than vine whip
"Gen 3 Sceptile sucks. Here's how i fixed it."
We all know what's coming next lmao
Given that swampert learns earthquake and blaziken has access to TM Fire blast and overheat, maybe having sceptile learn Outrage at level 55 or so, just in time to get it for the champion or for drake if you farm a bit would be a good idea.
You could also give blaziken access to superpower at that level to give the pokemon a strong attack against last elite four and champion so that it doesn't feel that weak there.
Outrage needs to be changed too in this case, because it had only 90 base power in gen 3 with all the drawbacks it has now.
This is always why I liked Blaziken. Blaziken is strong but has its weaknesses. Sceptile always felt weak sauce and Swampert always felt like I could solo half the game with the rest of the team just dedicated to its weaknesses.
Twister should be added in the move pool before Dragonbreath.
Also, the 3rd stage of the starters should have all 535 base stats, not only Swampert...
Swampert supremacy forever.
IKR? Plus it’s been 6 generations and not one starter has a 535 BST since Swampert. Not counting the 534 ones. And starting from Gen 7, all the starters equally have a 530 BST but like to see 534 or 535 again.
I second this. Dragonbreath is too powerful for early game, make it learn the move later
@@MysticGohanVegetahardly
Sequel in "What if Charizard and Gyarados were Dragon in Gen 1?"
Charizard would have been broken and Gyarados an invincible wall.
@@RandalfElVikingo Charizard would still be weak to Ice moves because Fire didn't resist Ice yet, along with a new Ground weakness. That's hurt a lot.
@@RandalfElVikingo and? They deserve it
Also you cant forget that there arent any good dragon moves in gen 1...... only dragon rage
Even if it’s not a complete overhaul I would LOVE more small fixes for Emerald
I think I heard the story that Sceptile's second type was supposed to be Dark(and the leftover, it is Pursuit in the moveset), but the creators felt the type Dark was so underdeveloped that they decided to abandon this idea.
Plenty of non-Darks also learn Pursuit, not really the best evidence
@@grunkleg.2934it's just the leftover moveset that would have been a stab move if it had
@@grunkleg.2934 Sure, I am not saying that is 100% truth. It is just a story that I have heard long time ago.
But if you see that Gen 3 add just one dark attack, while Gen 4 add 5 more and all with power above 50, then you might think that it was really something going on.
grass/dark is also an extremely bad type so thank god they scrapped that😭
Also, perhaps not Sceptile, but Grovyle has some attitude which we often see in dark type mons. If nothing else I think thematically it fits. My guess would be that they abandoned it because it'd mean Grovyle would be weak to both of Combusken's stab moves.
Gen 3 is the only gen where i genuinely adore all 3 starters and have used all 3 multiple times in every playthrough. every gen before or since has at least one that either i don't really like or seriously hate, because of evolutions or otherwise
It is kinda hilarious, that you showed the effect of the addition of Vine Whip to treeckos moveset in the Roxanne Battle next to a crit absorb and that stating that Vine whip Is a faster way, while the crit dealt as much damage 😂
I had a chance to experience something like this when I realized that Treecko has the egg moves Dragonbreath and Crunch, and did a playthrough with one that had those moves. Even mostly avoiding Crunch, Treecko's early game capability skyrocketed, really showing just how much it suffers from its movepool.
Hm, how about Twister at level 16? Thematically it makes sense because it looks like it can create winds circulating its limbs. It's weaker than Mud Shot and might require moving Dragonbreath a little later, sure, but it's also unresisted. Fury cutter is so wack on it dude
Crystal Legacy has somehow made it so even if it's something as trivial as a single pokemon type change, as long as it says "SmithPlaysPokemon" at the channel part I will click.
MY GUY!!
i always thought another great change for sceptile post gen 3 would be swapping attack and special attack so it can continue to use its "signature move" leaf blade. it should also get the ability sharpness post gen9
Honestly Gen III Sceptile only needs the 90 base attack and then post Gen III should get Dragon Dance which it currently gets now. Which is fair considering that Sceptile has a -5 lower BST than Swampert
However I think Gen V and VI could do more for Sceptile if they replaced it’s hidden/Mega ability with something like Technician before reworking it to Sharpness in Gen IX
I’ve always loved Sceptile so seeing it actually work is amazing. Also big fan of the music choices
I'd personally say giving Grovyle Razor leaf, and Twister, instead of that early Vine whip and Dragon Breath.
I agree on giving it Dragonbreath in the early 20's is better.
Id say level 6/7= absorb. Level 15= Razor Leaf. And on evolution it learns Twister. Then at 22 or 23 it learns Dragon Breath, then Leaf Blade at 27-29.
Why would 20s be better? Both of the other starters get good 60/55 power stabs at 16, far better than dragon
This. This right here.
I find people overvalue dragon types early game as they expect them to be offensive monsters from out the gate. Whereas my argument for early dragons will always be that the defensive qualities of the type are its real strength in the early game, hence why I like to use dratini as a starter mon when playing roms.
Really hope this builds up into an Emerald Legacy at some point! Crystal Legacy has been a joy to play!
Changing Absorb to Vine Whip and buffing it is a good change, though I think you could've upped its PP too. Around 25 seems more appropriate for such a weak move.
I disagree about raising the learning level of Dragon Breath. I don't think it's that overpowered compared to Double Kick and Mud Shot. Sure, Dragon type has great neutral coverage, but the other starters' secondary STABs are at least as good, arguably better. Ground and Fighting have excellent super-effective coverage, hitting five types each. They're also both physical, meaning they benefit from Roxanne's +10% Attack badge boost too.
Finally, Leaf Blade probably should've been buffed to its modern power of 90. It's only fair. The other Hoenn starters' signature moves are already of similar strength with better offensive typings to boot (Grass is resisted by as many types as Water and Fire combined!) and hard-hitting moves are especially important for frail, speedy attackers like Sceptile.
I feel like while vine whip might be thematically appropriate for a 40 base power grass move, it just doesnt work for treecko, since i dont feel it has any vines to whip lol, maybe bump up the power of absorb or give it mega drain sooner?
Level 7 Chikorita: Razor Leaf, once the best grass move by a long shot
Level 28 Grovyle: The best I can do is bUlLeT sEed
LMAOOO
It's actually sad that 55 BP with high crit was legitimately the best move a Grass-type could get in Gen 2
@@SquirrelGamingProductions even in gen 3 thats good, energy ball and such didn't exist yet. I recently replayed leafgreen and i gave up on victreebel once i saw its moveset
@@I_Am_Bowi 100%, Leaf Blade could only be learned by Grovyle & was legitimately the only good offensive Grass move until Gen 4 added Energy Ball, Power Whip, Wood Hammer & Seed Flare
Poor Meganium didn't get Petal Blizzard until like last Gen, and that should've been its Gen 2 signature
Emerald Legacy’s coming boys
I really appreciate you adding the links in the description and explaining how to actually play these ROM hacks. I've wanted to play randomized pokemon games for SOOOOO long and Legacy Crystal was my first, plus it led me to playing through Randomized Emerald and now Randomized Black 2!
If it was part Dragon, players would have a slightly harder time with Glacia. Other than that, it wouldn't buff Sceptile that much. Maybe a few good coverage and resistance.
Interesting to see a playthrough of fairly vanilla Emerald with a Dragon Sceptile. I think it's not commonly done without a major difficulty shift in the game because everyone assumes it's too strong. It's interesting to see that idea actually put to the test.
That said, I always wanted to see Sceptile end up as a Grass/Flying type. Grovyle always felt like it was leaning that way, and I miss those design motifs in Sceptile's designs. (Also, I can't imagine the backlash from Charizard fans if gen 3 Sceptile got the Dragon type when Zard didn't.)
Great video. Much enjoyed. ^.^
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I've always loved sceptile, because of false swipe. I'm that guy who has to catch every new Pokemon and this just makes it so easy for me.
Very well deserved buff to Sceptile. If he had this buff back in the day he would’ve been far more popular.
I just finished your Crystal Legacy game and I just wanted to say that I absolutely loved it! Every single gym leader caught me off guard and they often wiped 5 out of my 6 pokemon, whereas normally I'd 1 hit KO every gym leader and Elite Four member in the base Crystal game. And I absolutely loved using Gen II only pokemon. So well done! You created a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Thank you.
SO glad you liked it!!!
Omg, I was inspired by your Crystal Legacy vids and started modding Emerald myself a couple of months ago. I gave drought to Torkoal and Entei and drizzle on poliwrath and raikou and made Maxie and Archie’s teams an evolution of Rain and Sun strategies. Steven’s team is a competitive Sand team with Jirachi, Skarm Metagross Cradily Swampert and TTar
Hoenn Reimagined incoming
Welp now we have 3 OP starters.
Did you watch the video? Sceptile was just made more consistent, not OP
Yeah, but the 3 starters are still really good now, with good dual typings and solid matchups along the region@@AugmentalGameplay
Me: "Wow, with releasing Crystal Legacy this channel's legacy is secure."
Smith: (laughs in Advance)
I like this type of video branching out into other games with the same flavor as your Crystal Legacy videos
2:30 We have seen starters that break the 3 type trio. Empoleon is great example where it loses its weakness to grass and it's resistance to fire, at the same time becoming super weak go Infernape's and Torterra's secondary types. On the other hand still having solid coverage in Flying and Ice against both of them. With how weak to Ice Grass/Dragon is, it's a solid trade-off. As both of the other starters keep neutral damage, thanks to the secondary types and both of then also get SE coverage moves either in learnset or through TMs , with Flying and Ice types.
oh yeah this change is amazing I played through Renegade Platinum with a Sceptile and he had Dragon Typing in that mod and it was amazing once I got him to learn Draco Meteor he was unstoppable after that!
I always thought Sceptile should be part dark type but because they introduced Cacturne and Shiftry in Gen 3 they left it solo Grass.
In the ROM hack for Gale of Darkness, Pokémon XG: Next Gen, Sceptile was part Dragon. It could have Lightning Rod as an ability, you could teach it Draco Meteor pretty early, and it had Hidden Power Fire to deal with Ice. The best strategy was to use Substitute, use Giga Drain to get back that HP, use Draco Meteor to hit hard, and pair it with your Manectric that knows Discharge to raise your Special Attack back up.
I think the line shouldn't get the dragon type until sceptile. Unlike fighting and ground, dragons are meant to be rare so it should be a long-awaited reward for getting to the late game
Feeling like twister instead of dragon breath at 16 would feel less broken and take advantage of grovyles speed for the stun lock. Dragon typing at 60+stab plus chance to paralyze IS way better than the others. Don't really see the need for the quick attack swap if it gets a dragon move at 16 as well.. Love the content man, just voicing my opinion.
If there are people saying Dragon/Grass type is op
Keep in mind Marshtomps only weakness is Grass type
And there is no Grass type specialist in the whole game.
I always felt the dark type fit very well and interacted with the other two secondary types well
I feel like teaching Sceptile Dragon Claw was sort of a default move in Emerald but maybe that was just me
I've always given Sceptile dragon claw, so I feel like this change fits so well.
You're really opening up a can of worms with this video stoking desire for an Emerald Legacy!
I love this addition a lot. Sceptile has always been my favourite Starter and when the Gen 3 remakes were announced I was so hyped to try a new and improved Sceptile with its Mega Evolution. You could imagine my disappointment when the only Dragon move it got via level up in Omega Ruby was Dual Chop, with its Mega's ability being Lightning Rod.
I think you should make Treecko learn Bullet Seed by Level 10 and buff it to 25 BP. This gives it's a unique Starting Grass move and it's know from the anime. Vine whip was on Bulbasaur, Razor Leaf on Chikorita, and repeating the same Starting Grass move seems silly.
some changes which would effect it in ADV OU:
>although its now neutral to fire, Sceptiles bulk probably wouldnt let it handle stab fire blasts or flamethrowers from Moltres or Charizard. However, it would be better against HP fire celebi, or gengar or jirachi fire punch, etc
>its now 4x weak to ice, meaning blissey can very easily shut it down, so can many of the teirs bulky waters
>it could threaten to OHKO mons like Salamence and flygon
>its still walled by steels, but it could run HP Fire for that.
A physical attacking Sceptile with Grass/Dragon typing, switched Atk/Sp.Atk stats and Sharpness as Hidden Ability (as its arm leafs are extremely sharp) with Leaf Blade, Dragon Claw and other cutting moves as moveset would make for a very engaging sweeper
Let’s give it 670 base stats while we’re at it🥰
i actually love this. sceptile always felt lacking without the dragon typing. gen 3 grass moves are just recovery types
The is a theory that this line was always supposed to be a dragon but they scrapped last minute.
I've always treated the Treeko line as being part dragon, so this works fantastically as a much-needed buff, while preserving the Legacy design philosophy.
Ooooh! I love this typing!
That brings me to a question that I was hoping you might ponder: What secondary typing do y'all think would suit Serperior? Aesthetically, it's one of my favorite starters of all time but I feel that it could definitely use a secondary. I thought maybe dragon would suit the serpentine aesthetic and it does have dragon type moves in its learn pool.
Thoughts?
Giving Serperior contrary Draco meteor would be a nightmare
Dragon or poison would be the most obvious ones, though I'd lean towards poison since it's a snake.
@@Jordan-rNvgQ it actually does... in black & white 2.
Via move tutor, it gets access to aqua tail, iron tail, dragon pulse & outrage right before Clay. Which gives it coverage not only for Clay's excadrill, but also gives it coverage for super effective Fire and Ice types - and coverage against dragon and iris' dragons. It also gets knock off via tutors, but this is pre-buff knock off and it's not as good in a normal play through.
The only real issue is that they aren't available in black & white 1. So the most impactful buff there would just be to import the move tutors. Since it allows for you to either be a Coil set up sweeper OR a calm mind "unkillable" special sweeper with giga drain, synthesis (another move tutor move), and/or leech seed.
Honestly I’m surprised that you didn’t buff Sceptile’s BST to 535 to even it’s match to Swampert but also buff it’s attack stat to 90 to make more use of its physical movepool coverage. Same with giving Sceptile Outrage maybe at level 52 being it’s strongest Gen III move.
Oh my god. It's time for Emerald Legacy
God yes finally not Gen 2 thank you Patrick 😭😭😭
Oh hey I did that too a while ago in vanilla Emerald and a rom hack I edited a tiny bit myself. Really makes Sceptile a lot more fun to use, so I think this is a good choice, judging from my own experience.
Thanks so much for giving the link to the Rom, I can't wait to play! 🦎
I was considering making this exact change in my romhack updating Drayano's 2009 Fire Red Omega, but Grass/Dragon has a lot of weaknesses
Excited to watch this
Wow haven’t seen you since 2016 bo3 days. Cool to see you doing Pokémon!
Hey Smith, are you guys going to add a Day/Night cycle to Pokemon Emerald Legacy?
It felt a little out of place missing that feature in the original, Also again if you guys can somehow fix the starter Rng that would be cool.
I am getting an Everdrive GBA to play Yellow and Crystal Legacy can't wait to try them out.
As a time traveler i am very pleased to see the timeline going the correct way to Legacy Emerald
Sceptile, on the other hand, gets early access to Leaf Blade (Lv. 29), and makes good use of Dragon Claw even without STAB; otherwise, it also gets Earthquake, Aerial Ace, Brick Break, and Return. Unlike Blaziken, though, giving Sceptile the once-per-game Earthquake TM makes more sense, as it doesn't have Fighting STAB that overlaps with it.
Sceptile does well with Leaf Blade/Dragon Claw/Earthquake as his three main moves, with maybe False Swipe for catching Legends.
As a kid I always thought Dark would fit treeko. With being a sneaky fast forest lizard.
Smith: Treecko is bad.
Treecko Fans: News to us.
Solo type pokemon could definitely receive some sort of additional boost to compensate. For example mono type pokemon would get not 50%, but 75% STAB bonus. Simple change yet it would help a great deal.
Xerneas doesn't need any more help
Hmmm
@@guydooeinfinityOr Kyogre
Yes, such down on their luck gen 3 Pokémon as Snorlax and Suicune might finally become viable
More power is dangerous. Maybe they could have an added resistances or a weakness removed.
Ah, a vid on my Signature Pokemon...and I agree, it should've gotten a second type like the others
TM 51: Brick
Type: Fighting
Base Power: 60
PP: 20
Hurl a brick at the defending Pokemon. May cause Confusion. Where did you get a brick?!
😎
I am loving Crystal Legacy. Emerald Legacy would be great!
Think you could also do a hypothetical fix for Serperior in gen5? It has a terrible movepool and performs way worse than the other two through the entire game
Serperior is stuck with a Charmander problem, moreso then just not having a good movepool. half of the gyms just straight counter it, and only Katy Perry and Bobby Flay are countered by the snake.
Pretty good, but I still waiting for update post-game plot for Crystal Legacy
The treecko line is my all time favorite and ive always felt like it had been done dirty, thank you for this
if Dragonbreath feels too powerful for that early there's always Twister or even Dragon Rage. which yeah fixed damage move, doesn't interact with being the type. but the reliability could still be a boon
“Vinewhip feels reaaaaaaaaly more appropriate than absorb”
My guy, Treeko literally has no vines 😂🤣
Well, you COULD count its tail... It's not much, but it's something.
I remember when I wrote that Blastoise should be Dragon for the same reason and some guy wanted to bite off my head. Be careful.
I remember I said Charizard should be Fire/Dragon for a Legends game (a game with no rival battles) and people still flipped out.
Swampert being the fav child as always.
I feel like electric type with the yellow bulbs works so much better, it helps it deal with flying types, and thunderwave or "electric net" (sorry forgot the attacks name, and its techically not in gen3) would work with it so well as a kind of bulky support with alot of speed- or you go for a sweeper that can deal with flying, one of its biggest weaknesses.
I felt like dragon visually never made sense and gave it too much resistance, even ignoring the removal of fire weakness. without fairy, its actually hard to deal with sceptile in lategame.
Don't forget that DragonBreath has a high-ish chance to paralyze.
What about giving it a stronger dark type, which is also a special type. It gets Pursuit, Crunch via breeding, and in later Gens night slash, so something like feint attack seems nice to add a bit more special coverage. Maybe give it even crunch per level up around the late 40s for the ghosts
It's fun for random gameplay, but it breaks the circle of effectiveness of the starters, I think for an "Emerald Legacy" the best would be to either leave it as a dragon and add an ability to take fire damage, or leave it just grass and add an ability to deal super effective dragon damage, or just put dragon moves in learn set, idk
When I played Emerald before ORAS released, Treecko was my starter; I had used Mudkip so much growing up, I wanted to see what he could do. Unfortunately, I think it got the short end of the stick when it came to the starters; its stats are at odds with its movepool; no secondary typing; and a mediocre signature move. It was still useful a few times, but it didn’t feel like it was viable throughout. I want to fix that.
Starting off, the line should trade away some of its Sp. Def and a little Sp. Att for Att and Spd; this gives the line the distinction it wants to attack first for its own benefit. Mudkip’s line is meant to be resilient through bulk and typing and Torchic’s line is meant to hit hard with average speed. Attacking first, given the right moves, makes the line play with a “death by a thousand cuts” mindset.
I don’t think Vine Whip is necessary as the TM for Bullet Seed is obtainable very early and, on average, will hit harder than Vine Whip. Normally, it can learn Mud-Slap via a Move Tutor. But giving it to the line through level up gives it some early coverage and some survivability through lowering accuracy (I’d also buff its power from 20 to 40 and increase the PP from 10 to 20). Fury Cutter is the worst move the line could get from Treecko to Grovyle, so I think they should get Bite instead (it gets Crunch through breeding, so it should be capable of using its mouth to fight); it could play into its own survivability by causing enemies to flinch. And finally the move I would change is Leaf Blade; BP could change from 70 to 80 and would have guaranteed critical hits. Blaze Kick is Blaziken’s signature move and better normally in every way. Having guaranteed critical hits as early as level 29 gives the line some edge against its competition that have to wait until later for their best moves.
As for its typing, Dragon and Dark seem the most applicable, but given the above set, Dark is my preferred option.
giving grovyle mega drain at lvl16 would be okay I think? Marshtomb and combusken claim a 60 Base Power move in double kick and mud shot (55) while dragon breath is way to strong for gym2. Mega Drain udgrades vine whip with an amazing secondary effect until lvl22 where it can dish out massive unresisted dragon offense. I would rather go as far giving treeko vine whip at 6 and leech seed at 11. So it has more tools to support until it gets dragon breath at 23. (maybe quick attack instead of tackle at 1? Tackle sucks so hard after all)
If Sceptile is going to be Grass/Dragon he deserves an Ability to address his extreme weaknesses. (low stats, bad typing, etc).
Unburden is a gimmick.
Pretty sure the reason Treeko doesn't get Vine Whip (other than it being a gecko and not having plant matter to whip with) is that it gets Bullet Seed by TM after Petalburg.
Bulletseed sucks tho
Bullet Seed is not great by any means, but it's weird to complain that Absorb isn't strong enough while ignoring the stronger move you're given.
@@michaeljohnston6783 It’s not strong enough to make much of a difference though. Bullet Seed only has 10 BP in Gen 3 and over 70% of the time it will be weaker than Vine Whip. Also it’s not a stretch to think that Treecko could use its long tail like a vine.
If you consider doing an Emerald Legacy, what do you think about making a lot more of the Gym Battles into Double Battles? Double Battles were a big draw to this gen, and there is a lot that could be done with double battles for gyms. Namely Norman, who could have his Slaking's Truant Ability swapped or negated via Role Play or Skill Swap.
Contenders for Norman's potential Skill Swap Strategy are Stantler (85 base speed and role play + bonus intimidate), Tauros (110 base speed and role play + bonus Intimidate - Gets it in HGSS), Girafarig (85 speed and Skill Swap), and, the best option in Gen, Spinda (60 Speed and Skill Swap)
I'm fairly sure thats a strategy he uses in the rematches
@@I_Am_Bowi Just looked into it. That is something Norman does in the rematches, yeah.
He does have the issue of his Skill Swappers being Blissey and Spinda though. Neither of them are faster than Slaking, so they wouldn’t be able to take advantage of it fully.
Norman does have a Tauros in his Fourth Rematch though, but it doesn’t have Skill Swap.
Swampert gets muddy water as an evolution move
Oh god i sincerely hope that this escalates into Emerald Legacy. Begging you to give poor Skitty and Delcatty the stats a STONE EVOLUTION should have.
Ok so now I'm dying for a video titled "Pokemon Emerald is good but not perfect, so I'm fixing it"
For my personal hack Instead of Vine Whip I just buffed Bullet Seed to be a perfect grass clone of Arm Thrust (10BP > 15BP). It's a small but noticeable improvement that makes it feel on par with Ember and Water Gun.