I've had a 2007 model since new. For the first 10 years I used it for daily commuting into London, but the last 6 it has been just a pleasure bike. You might have a different screen to me (but it looks the same). Mine has two positions, which you adjust be undoing the brackets and turning them up the other way before bolting them back up again. It's 30 mins to change the position, unless you are slick. On the lower setting, I think the bike looks great and quite a sports/tourer, but it has quite a bit of wind noise and buffeting at speed. On the higher setting, it looks like a barn door tourer, but I can do 80mph with my visor up and no buffeting (I have an open face helmet as there is so little buffeting). Apart from service consumables (oil/filters/spark plugs/brake pads/tyres/batteries/bulbs etc), mine has needed three bits of work - a fix for the right hand pannier (about 12 years ago, the lock is on the left and the mechanism linking the panniers was known to fail), a bit of welding on the exhaust (about 8 years ago, though it is still the original exhaust) and replacement HT leads (1 year ago). Oh, and some WD40 in the indicator switch which stopped working when turning right a few months ago, but has worked since the WD40 fix. It is the fastest bike I ever took from London to Snowdonia, as it only ever needed one stop - around Telford to fuel up, never needing a comfort stop (London to Telford is at least 3 hours). Some bikes needed two fuel stops and often more for comfort breaks - riding my Hornet was a three stop trip as it was uncomfortable on a motorway. The Deauville crushes distance at speed. #HondaBuildQuality
The NT700 Deauville is a touring motorcycle for whom touring equals relaxation of driving and a highway, you should not want to be there, then you should have the ST Pan, which are highway touring motorcycles. The NT700 feels best on the rural 2-lane roads that you choose to take a nice drive and enjoy the views and surroundings. The NT700 does not tempt you into unsafe maneuvers because it does not have the configuration to make that possible. It is not a sports bike, but a nice touring bike for those who consider speed and hurried handling undesirable.
I bought one last year and the first time I road it I immediately felt what you're saying. It's a bike with a very nice calm temperament that just does what you ask of it without fuss. It makes you want to ride relaxed and enjoy yourself and that's exactly what I was looking for. If you're a thrill seeker, it's probably not the bike you're looking for (hence the reputation). But it's not what draws me to riding a bike; I just want to take my gf on the bike and enjoy being outside with the wind in my face. It's a perfect bike for that.
Good review. This model was imported into the US only in 2010 and 2011. I have the ABS model, which in the US is known as the NT700VA. Honda stopped making/importing them because sales were not good. The price point was too high, actually at $10,000 US ($11,000 US for ABS model). Used ones can be picked up for around $5,000 US. ABS models are rare, as only 20% of the total NT700V units imported into US have ABS. One really nice thing about this bike is that it is legendary Honda reliable! And Hondas are reasonable to service, unlike Beemers!
Agree. Im now going to look at altering the screen. After 30 years i went back to motorcycling. Bought a Burgman 400 which i broke. Then i found my dream bike, an FJ1200. Scared myself. Bought the 700 Deauville and its a beauty. Gave me my confidence back. So much so i now have fun on the FJ. The clever tunnelled rear paniers allow me to break down my "crip stick" so no one knows im disabled untill i dismount and get my stick out.
One of the most balanced reviews on the bike and anyone thinking of getting one should watch this. I’ve had three, one 650 and two 700’s. I only traded up to a 1300 pan as I take a pillion and fully loaded plus pillion the Deauville suffers just a bit... it’ll still do the miles and in comfort for both rider and pillion but as you rightly say the pick up is affected.... not so on the Pan or I guess the RT. Only weakness is the panniers and the rear wheel removal. Treat the panniers with respect (Don’t slam them) and after a few wheel removals its not so bad. There is an excellent Deau community who meet up and have a late may bank holiday mega meet plus there is the international DMD (Deauville Meets Deauville) not so many Deauvilles now. I am looking out for a minter to have as my ‘next’ bike as the Pan gets heavier each year ! Safe riding and thanks again for a top review.
I've had bigger bike's in the past, then I stop riding for years, three years ago I started watching your channel when you was in Scotland and I knew then I had to get a bike again, so I bought a Yamaha wr 125r only got 12 HP and did 65 mph but I went to Scotland from the forest of dean in August 2016, I loved it. I'm planning another trip this August to Scotland on a 125 again.
Hi Dave, thanks for watching. That's really great and means a lot that you have followed the channel from the beginning. Glad to hear you got back into biking. Enjoy Scotland pal. Take care and safe riding.
Nice review of one of the best bikes in the world. I've done just under 250,000 miles on three bikes - commuting and touring. I just wish they still made them, as it's all the bike I need.
Thanks Paul - Just found your review a few hours after putting a deposit down on a low mileage 09' NT700V and you've made me feel confident that I've made the right choice.
Adam, i hope you are enjoying your Deau. I have a 2014 reg'd one. 2 handy tips, 1. lower yokes on forks 10mm and it goes around corners much better. 2. For taking off rear wheel, remove lower shock bolt and swing arm drops a bit more allowing a socket onto spindle nut, but better still the rear caliper now has room to come down and out to right side. No need to remove exhaust or right side pannier and panel.
@@TeezerDriz Thanks for the tip on the back wheel - I've not had to take it out yet as the disc and pads won't need changing for a while and I don't do my own tyres! I rebuilt the front forks last spring and the handling improved a lot from when I'd collected it. I might try the yoke trick, but I've not had any trouble keeping up with other riders to date!
This reminds me of the eight years or so that I had a 1982 Honda GL500I Silverwing Interstate as my main transportation. It was a fabulous machine, capable of passing semis on American freeways at 80 mph even heavily loaded. Honda followed with the perfect GL650I in 1983... and stopped making them! They followed a bit later with the Pacific Coast PC800, very much a cult machine these days, and the Deauville came next. At least there are lots of quite affordable Deauvilles on the market these days, but a good GL650I would be the ideal. Absolutely beautiful bike.
I see that this video was some time ago but I thought I would add to the praise that you have given this remarkable machine. I bought my 700 2 year old with 2200 miles on the clock back in 2011. The next 9 years it predominantly was used to commute 37 miles each way from Dunstable to Square mile of London. It currently has 128,000 miles on the clock. Now in my retirement I am planning to complete the 3 nations road rallies on it, having completed platinum challenges on England National Road Rallies over last 6 years. Next year I hope to ride to the 4 most furthest compass points of UK mainland by A roads over 8 days. I have ridden many other bikes at shows and test rides but nothing has persuaded me to give up the Deauville. Its cheap to run, easy to maintain, comfortable to ride long distances, enough poke to overtake and have some fun. At my mileage yes I have had some things go wrong but easily covered by the savings I made compared to public transport. If you get the chance to buy a second hand one buy it. I was tempted to go and buy a new bike with some of my savings NC700X most likely, but with no shaft drive or protection and lower average mileage now I thought why bother. So last weekend I set off to Wales at 5.45am as prep run for Welsh NRR, over Severn Bridge up the Wye Valley to Ross on Wye and back home along A40. 288 miles. Refilled 16l after 222 and back home by 2pm. I will be keeping mine for a little while longer. Oh and this year's insurance renewal £144 Inc fully comp, breakdown cover, ncd protection, clothing cover, through Bennetts. Yes it should have had a 6th gear.
Thank you, I wish I had never got rid of the Deauville. I absolutely miss the old girl. She was the best bike I ever owned. I've ordered the new NT1100 hopefully receiving it at the end of this month. I stupidly bought the BMW R1250RT and have had 3 years of endless problems. Thanks for watching pal 👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 shame the NT1100 is not shaft drive considering its a big tourer. Reporter said it was heavy enough as it was. The engine based on the Africa Twin should be a delight which I have ridden a couple of years ago.
Hi thanks for your imput .I am in the process of purchasing one from honda Glasgow an0l 06 plate .There is no indication at 30000 miles in the service history of valve clearance checks . Could you please let me know how often or do you check yours ? Thank you 😊
John Cumming I check the tappets on mine every 16,000 miles. They tend to loosen than tighten so if not checked from new then it may sound a bit tappy. Good news, you can check the tappets yourself if you have a 3/8 socket set and 3/8 torque wrench plus feeler gauges and standard toolkit. At a steady pace you can get it done in 3 hours.
We had the 650 Deauville in 2004 when I got back to biking after a 14 year break from biking. As you said, two up they do struggle a little on overtaking but as long as you allow for this, it's fine. In September 2004 we changed the Deauville for the ST1300 Pan European. Your bike will be a great bike for someone because you've looked after it.
Thanks Paul, I was really sad when I part x her. She has been a brilliant bike for the past 8 years. My dad would of wanted me to get a new bike so that's what made me change. Hope you are ok Paul,? Good to see you posting again. Thank you for watching and your support.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Hi Paul. Yes he would, he'll be very proud of you. I'm very much up and down Paul. Watching you going towards the Ponderosa makes me both sad and happy. I'm hoping to ride again Paul but the thought of not having my lass with me breaks me in two. One bit of news is that after almost two years, I'm getting back behind the wheel. I've ordered a car. I'll require assistance yes getting in and out but being able to go further than 35 miles that Zippy can go and much faster of course. If you are over my way any time, please call in for a brew.
@@npr1300A8 Hi Paul, feel awful I hadn't had chance to come and see you sooner. I am away for Easter weekend. After that I am free most weekends. If give me a few dates I can come up and visit. If you send me a message through messenger we can organise a date Paul.
Just bought a 700 Deauville, a very nice bike, I came from an NTV650 Revere that felt a bit more sporty with the pegs raked back a bit, the Deauville is more upright as you said. Practical, comfortable, not too tall or heavy and enough power. Good review mate.👍
Just got my 2010 Silver Deauville here in Tokyo Japan a few weeks ago... I haven't ridden in a while and nothing over a 400cc. This bike is absolutely amazing! Perfect for me. I am 6ft 3 inches and was concerned about the seating position but it is fine. I can flat foot it both sides at stop signals and it has a lot of torque in the lower gears. Actually 1st gear ratio with the shaft drive surprised me at first as it will totally "Jump off the line". Now that I own it, I never see getting a different bike. I am 65 years old, still quite healthy (knock on wood) and from what I have heard, these engines can go well into the 6 figures miles or km before any major maintenance. Just love my Deauville and it looks so Rad and Cool as we would say in California! As he said, Brilliant !!
Good review. I had a NT650, passed my IAM on it actually. Then I had a CBF1000, which was very fast but I returned to the shaft drive NT700. I rode that for two years, but I often took a pillion and it was hard work. I went from that to a ST1300 PAN, but I really missed the NT700. If solo then the NT700 was enough. I couldn’t believe it when Honda stopped making them in favour of the NC700. Then I went to BMW R & RT and now I ride a Triumph T120, but the Deauvilles hold a special place in my heart. Bullet, proof, cheap to run. Yes you do have to change down gear a lot as they are heavy. A great commuter bike as well as touring. You gave a good honest review. There was a good Deauville community online I remember. The BMW RT Group on Facebook i can highly recommend too.
Great review and exactly as I recalled mine. I had a silver 2008 NT700 a few years ago. I "upgraded" it to a CBF1000GT with the full luggage. (I've changed several times since a heart attack at 55, but back to full health). I always missed the NT and said if a later one came up in red I'd buy it. And so I'm now the proud owner of a Sept'11 registered NT700 in red with 9,200 miles and good service history. Has to be excellent value at £2,500. So pleased with it. At 5'8" I recalled being on not quite balls of feet astride the bike so have just ordered a Top Sellarie seat from France. It's got gel inserts and more importantly for me is lowered by almost 15mm which should make all the difference.
Cheers, Paul, I really miss mine. I sold it in 2019 for an RT1250. After 3 years, I got rid of it. I've gone back to Honda now, and last year, I bought the NT1100. Lovely bike However, I miss Deauville. If a good one ever came up, I'd be tempted to buy it. Thanks for watching, pal 👍
Yes, I’ve been watching your videos. (and subscribed). Friend of mine has the Nt1100 DCT also; loves it. I’m not doing big trips, so loving wee day runs out on the Deaville.
Thanks foe this review, I've just got back into bikes after a 20 year gap lol 😆 I'm currently tootling around on a XJ600 which is grand and I'm thoroughly enjoying it but when it's time to upgrade, the Deauville is top of the list.
I completely agree that a 2020 Deauville with a soft-tune VFR engine would be great. Not just Honda, but all motorcycle manufacturers seem to be dropping the fairing/pannier touring bikes. I suppose the manufacturers are listening to hard to the motorcycle press who are only interested in suicide machines and radical off-road designs.
Agreed. The Motorcycle press is dominating the agenda (and MCN with its mental age of about eleven) by bullying manufacturers into producing a succession of either unaffordable "adventure" bikes which actually rarely leave the tarmac, or boy racer uncomfortable Nakeds with no space for luggage. The RT is virtually the only viable contemporary touring bike under a 3rd of a ton left but it is just too expensive.
ST11000, 1300 were the V4 models exactly like Deauville, 700. Great bikes. Better inn every way, except weight. Everyone seems to forget that. VFRs totally different.
Its a great bike it seems like, its been good to you! But like all good things it must come to an end and a new chapter opens with the BMW right at the centre. Hope you have as much happiness on your new bike as you did with the Honda, good luck!
Hi Paul, that bike sure served you well. After seeing all your vids i bought myself a bike again, guess what...a sport touring machine. So i can start riding my own adventures 😉 I’ve sold my old bike two years ago but now i’m thrilled and cant wait to restart! Let the new touring season begin.....
I just traded in my 2010 Honda NT700V ABS (Deauville) I put 33,000 miles on it and it was my first bike and I loved it! Because of the Honda quality, I decided to go with the Honda Africa Twin(And I love it).
I am looking at getting back on a bike after many years off one. There are only a few of these on the used market where I live (SE USA) but the two I’ve seen are in excellent shape and reasonably priced. I think the folks who’ve owned them have tended to take great care of them.
Hi Ted, if your getting back into biking, the Deauville is a perfect bike. If you have found a good quality one it's worth getting it. The good fo 60 to the gallon. Total range 200 miles easily. Good luck pal. Thanks for watching. Stay safe.
I really enjoyed watching your vids. An honest review that puts the pro journalists in their place. It's unfashionable to like the Deauville yet in this country motorcycling is more boys with plastic toys, than real world transport. Those clad in one piece leathers looking like Quasi Modo and thinking they've just seen off Rossi, are the joke. This is a really practical and functional motorbike for all year round riding in comfort. I reckon you'll be disappointed with your replacement.
A lack of power does not mean a dull motorcycle. I get the most fun out of my Suzuki DR125 that might have has 12 BHP twenty one years ago when it was built but even now it is more than enough to bring out the smiles. While I was typing this you were going on about how great it would have been if Honda had put a V4 in the Deauville… Let me think… Honda? V4? Shaft drive? Touring? Oh yes, that’s the Pan European. I had one of those for nine years between buying it new in 2012 and trading it in in 2021, now that was an excellent bike in both its Sport and Tourer moments. When I bought it I lived in Germany and regularly cruised on the Autobahn at about 90 mph. The bike was capable of travelling much faster than that, and did on many occasions, but the beauty of the Autobahn is that you can choose how fast you want to travel, you don’t all have to travel at a too low maximum speed that keeps you all together. I think you are exaggerating about the speed that the cars travel as well, you will occasionally come across someone travelling at 140-150+ mph but that is and always has been extremely rare.
Thanks for watching and commenting. This video is a few years old now, and so am I. As you get older, your views change. One of my biggest regrets was selling ghe Deauville. It was a fantastic bike. You're right. The Pan European was amazing too. Cheers 👍
I’ve also got a Deauville. Agree with your thoughts about the bike especially the screen . The deauville is a real ‘ Jack of all trades ‘ .It does all aspects of motorcycling to a competent standard . On a personal note , I live in Kent ,but originally from the Wirral .Nice to see you on the road to the Ponderosa via Hawarden . That was the route I always used to get into North Wales.
Hi Griff, Great review, can I ask what camera's you use, they are something I now find myself wanting more and more and your footage seems to be about the right quality and with good audio.
Cheers pal 👍. This video was filmed about 4 years ago now. At the time, I was using the Drift Ghost S HD. Back then, they were brilliant cameras. Sadly the new Drift XL Pro 4k isn't as good. The Field of View on the Drifts has reduced from 160° to 140° which sadly doesn't pick as much of the road footage. I am now using the Go Pro Hero 11. However, still use the standard Drift microphone, which plugs directly into the Gopro media mod. Thanks for watching the channel, pal. 👍
I have enjoyed your review, wonderful bike. I've found one here in Kenya where I live. My question is, will the bike be any good here on these harsh roads. Lots of gravel roads and many potholes, compared to Europe even your country roads are silky carpeted .
If you want the truth, I never took the Deauville off-road. All I can tell you is that it's a good all-rounder bike. Good on fuel economy and very reliable 👍👍 Thanks for watching, pal 👍
thank you im just starting agian and have look at this bike and you have just confarmed that this is the one for me im 67 yrs old and dont want to kill my self on somthing thas going to rip my arms of
Rode a 1300ST up to 2.5K Km commuting and fun rides. Traded it in for a Goldwing 1800GL, thinking I'd go train it to work. After six months of public transportation frustration I'm done with that, and get myself a NT700 Deauville for commuting purposes. Commuting on my Wing won't cut it, and I specifically bought that one for pleasure touring. I decided not to go for another Pan European. Although a phenomenal ride, it's too expensive as second bike. I expect to sort of get to 80% of the pleasure scale, which for its cost would be quite adequate. Your review is another confirmation the Deauville is a no drama, dependable and all round good ride bike. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Cheers Leo, you will love it. I had mine for over 8 years and loved every minute of it. Good luck with your new ride. Thanks for watching. Safe riding sir.
@@paulgriffiths6404 First impression after a couple of weeks: What a sweet machine. With galeforce 7 from the side it wants to play with you some, but it remains predictable and easy to ride regardless of what you throw at it.
Ah! Shortly after I got my NT700VA, I bought the large pannier covers from David Silvers Spares (UK). (The large covers were not sold in the US for some reason.) Cost me about $500 US, but I didn't have to pay VAT. The large covers make touring possible, and they have the "Deauville" name on them.
Hello Paul, Only found your vids by looking for a review on the Deauville, enjoyed watching your touring adventures with Ray immensely. I ride a sv650 as I am a bit short in the limb department (29 ins) what are they like for flat footing ? I'm guessing you are slightly bigger in the trouser department (pardon !) Than me. I'm serious about trading up if I can ride one without tip toeing the thing. Looking out for you on the BMW when I'm out as I am a local gent residing in Moreton. Thanks mate.
Good review Paul! Shaft drive of course, which is a big bonus if you're clocking lots of miles. How many miles did you put on it while you had it Paul, a fair few I bet! I do think we tend to get blinkered by what 'The Press' and the reviewers say somewhat, where their idea of what makes a good bike, is not always what most people would be more than very satisfied with. Read any owner reviews of this bike and it scores 5* all the way. Hear what you are saying about the VFR engine.... just think what you saved in servicing costs! From what I've read they are more reliable than a Swiss watch, yours still looks very tidy mate. Enjoy your new R1250RT excellent choice.
Cheers Paul. I have put just short of 45k on it. Yeah shaft drive is a great bonus. (Whoops forgot to mention that). She has never let me down. Will be sad to see her go. Still have her for a few weeks though. Thanks for watching pal.
Keep it. I've had alot of bikes over the year and my deuville is by far the most comfortable bike I've ridden. I doubt I will ever sell it. After the cx500 couriers turned to the deauvilles. For the reliability
Nice vid buddy. I live in Portugal but recognised the road from Two Mills to Hawarden and I guess at the end you turned right to The Ponderosa. Hope you enjoyed your lunch. Great job !
Why not a V4? The Deauville is about practicality and low maintenance. Honda could keep the price low. There are enough other options to choose from if you want more power. What I never understood is why they didn't put a DCT on it.
What a genuine review off this bike you said as it is own a tl 1000s its a pig but I love it have gone to scotland from ireland on a honda shadow 1100 two up nearly killed us wrecked plenty duevilles in ireland but as you said overtaking and two up and bad road s don't mix but a great bike for tipping around
Nice video. Beginning rider looking fr first bike. Im a short rider with 29 inch inseam so Im looking at this one or the Kawasaki 650 Vulcan S. I love the included fairing along w saddlebags and integrated storage
As a commuter, what's it like in terms of "nippiness" - pulling out at junctions, accelerating out of people's way, that sort of thing. I have a Diversion XJ600S at the moment and am considering changing. It's not going to set the world on fire for adrenaline, but it's a bit lighter and doesn't have much less power than the deauville; and being able to shoot off around traffic is really useful and often much safer than hanging around in people's way. I wonder if I'll miss its instantaneous 0 to 30 or 20 to 40 etc. Also it's incredibly basic which makes for easy maintenance. Are there many "gotchas" on the deauville eg anything that often goes wrong, likely to be expensive to repair, etc?
I thing for nipping in and out of traffic your Yamaha might be slightly better, However the Deauville is cheap on insurance and with the shaft drive is good on maintenance. In my view both are fantastic bikes. My advice is to ride one. I am a bit biased but I owned a Deauville for 8 years. If it was me the Deauville would win every day.
I've had three Deauvilles and ride in London all the time. In my opinion it's perfect for 'cut and thrust' riding in an urban environment. Nippy enough, if you use the gears, and no throttle lag. Good balance and brakes. And has some physical presence, which helps too. Hope that helps!
I had a Honda Deauville from 2009 to 2014, when I decided to downsize to a Honda CBR 250 R. I think the year I bought my Deauville, 2009, was the year they stopped making them. After 6 years with my CBR 250 R I have decided to step up again (slightly). I like to buy new rather than second hand and if they still made the Deauville I would consider buying another one. As it happens I have decided on the Honda CBR 500 R. Interesting review. Was this video tour the Wirral ? I seemed to recognise Neston and the Chester Road. Could be wrong.
Yeah, Wirral is my home turf. I absolutely loved the Deauville. Safe to say it was the best bike I ever owned. I have the BMW RT1250 now. Believe me I would go.back in a heartbeat. Thanks for watching pal, safe riding 👍👍👍👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 Hi paul. I hope to get a deauville in the not too distant future,probably the 700, i live in Ireland but my partner lives in the wirral, There is a 2013 700 deauville over here for 6500k euros that is.rode bikes years ago but would love to get back into touring again.love the video an honest report .thanks regards ride safe Alan.
Thanks for this review, which I found really helpful. Do you think this would make a good first big bike? I'm tootling around on a 125 to get experience etc. but I'm in the market for an upgrade when I pass my test. I'm looking for something that's easy to ride, reliable and powerful enough to make progress on A roads. I'm 54 so not interested in going fast or breaking the speed limit. Thoughts?
These are absolutely great bikes. I actually regret trading mine in. I originally bought it in 2011 as a return to biking. I traded it in 8 years later. These are great for commuting and a Brilliant mile cruncher. They are plenty powerfull enough fir progression on A roads.
@@paulgriffiths6404 thanks, Paul. And good for a first big bike? Easy to ride? Not too intimidating? Finally, would weight be an issue for a learning rider? I guess low centre of gravity so that must compensate any weight issues? Thanks again for review. Great job.
Hi Paul .New subscriber here Yes i am seriously thinking about getting a Honda Deauville NT 700. At present i have got a 2006 Royal Enfield 350 bullet just for carting stuff back and too to my allotments.For many years between 2004 and 2017 i had a Triumph sprint St 955 i from new that was a fantastic bike.And i have got the bug to travel and tour again so yeah looking forward to getting a Deauville in the coming months.Thanks again for such a great review. Cheers John.
Cheers John. The Deauville does what it says on the tin. Great tourer and mile cruncher. The sprint st is a great machine. You will notice a difference in power however that is a trade off for comfort. Thanks for watching pal.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Cheers Paul, I have now got a Deauville NT 700 on an 11 plate. After watching your video`s i notice you had a tank bag on your Deauville is it expandable?I was looking at the Oxford expandable tank bags 30L or 40L which i used to use one on a Honda 500s twin many years ago and that was excellent. cheers John.
@@johnscuckoopatchandallotme4266 Hi John, Mine was a 20L non expandable Oxford. 30L I reckon would be ideal for touring. If it is magnetic, just make sure the magnetic ends are long enough as part of the tank is plastic.
Is the Deauville a capable tourer with a pillion ? I have a few bikes but the Deauville was the first bike i ever rode after passing my test and always wanted one. Was thinking of getting one to travel from Wales to Scotland, not fussed about the overtaking or speed, just a comfortable bike so myself and wife and do some touring. Have been offered a low mileage bike very cheap and in immaculate condition, but just have concerns on carrying a pillion. Great review 👍
Yeah, it's great two up for comfort and will always get to your destination refreshed. It not actually that bad two up for riding. You'll just need to plan your overtakes more that's all.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Thanks for the reply, i just think its an affordable tourer, been looking at the BMW RT and Yamaha FJR 1300, but for a bike a will probably use a few times in the year the Deauville seems a good option. Cheers
I enjoyed my Deuville for the short time i had it but some of the reason i chopped it for for a RT was the panniers were too small really for 2 people and they were fixed,where as the RT you just flip a lever and their a suit case,And on the Honda if you got a puncture in the rear or you had to work on it removing the back wheel was a mare ,, on the RT its just 5 bolts,,,And you're right about the screen, i had mine on high going up the M6 fully loaded with the wife (pre load adjusted) and the front became very unstable ,Anyhow ,enjoy the RT Paul,,,Did you get the Nav 6 thrown in?
Hi Rick, I will miss the Deauville, she has been great bike. I had the extra large panniers on mine. I did order the Nav 6 for the BMW and also the top box. Thanks for watching Rick.
I know this video was three years ago but I was just wondering if this bike would be OK for some who has just passed and would like one as my first big bike any advice would be great
Hi Pal, Definitely a great choice. I would have a Deauville again. They are a great tourer. Low maintenance and shaft drive. I never had a day's trouble with mine. In fact I still regrets selling it. The main advice is change the shaft oil regularly. I used to do it at every service. Oh and stay clear of Bridgestone tyres. They track the road on the Deauville. I found the pilot Roads to be the best.
You make a good point about one with a VFR engine. Was their VFR1200 the attempt at this? Could have done with being more roomy, but the shaft drive is there. Maybe an 800 would be cheaper to run.
Had one , totally agree . the only bike I've ever owned that I miss . shows how nonsense peoples wants of bikes are that Honda discontinued them . to put in perspective I've owned race tuned r.d.`s and currently own a dyna and a guzzi v7 3 .
I'm possibly looking at a 100+ mile commute in the near future and have been browsing the NC750X/CB500X models, but this almost seems like a better contender! Shaft drive for a start (vs chain), comes with all the storage I'd need from the factory, so no added costs or messing about, looks to be a whole lot more comfortable than either of the other two I'm looking at, not too bad on fuel, AND it can be had for a good deal less... What's the catch? 🤔
If you get a good one it's worth the buy. Shaft drive is great. Low maintenance. They do about 60mpg. The new CB500x is amazing and I am lead to believe it does close to 100mpg. If your not concerned about a chain drive either nc750x or cb500x are great. However if you've found a mint Deauville it's worth a look. 👍👍👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 From what I've seen, if I were to go for either a 500X or 750X it'd have to be a relatively new one, so the amount of money I'd be saving on fuel wouldn't offset the added cost for at least a few years. I'm still running some numbers, but it looks like I might end up just living with the 60mpg for a while instead. That or keep the 125 a while longer 😆
@@233kosta I have similar thinking. You can get nt700 in good condition for around £3k, 500x for £6.5k, and 750x for £8.5k. significant difference but.. you get 2 years warranty, better fuel consumption, and probably no extra cost for parts for at least 3 years to come. with around 12 year old bike anything can happen. It might serve you well for the next years but it might cost you a fortune to fix it, it's a lottery. Also, I guess that those newer bikes have better working ABS etc, maybe I'm wrong. Can't tell anything about comfort, I was only sitting on all three bikes in the showroom. Hard decision
Thanks for channel. I was considering to get rid of my 2008 14000 mile Deauville or a 67 plate NC750X. But touring is more comfortable. One has to go but which one?????
Thanks for the review. I'm planning to buy a bike as a beginner 😎 I checked Varadero, NC 750x and this one. I guess it is better to go for Deauville considering if mechanical breakdown r not often happenning, any advice on this subject? Thanks a lot. Cheers..
Hi Paul, good review of the Deauville , could you please let me know your thoughts on the 1200 trophy that you owned.was it a rewarding bike to ride etc, I am considering buying one. I’m a mechanic by trade so I know it’s not going to match the Japanese reliability etc. Would love to hear what you have to say about the trophy 1200. 👍
Hi, thanks for watching. My old Deauville, I do miss that bike. She was a beauty. My Triumph Trophy 1200. Well it was a 2003 model, absolutely a mile cruncher. I did over 30,000 miles on her and the chain was still in excellent condition. Rarely had to adjust it. It was comfy, and very reliable. The engine was smooth and had plenty of torque for overtaking in any gear. However the only drawback with it was the fuel consumption. If you were planning a long trip make you need to make sure you allowed for many fuel stops. I was only averaging 30MPG at best. I found my range was about 130 miles to the tank. That would be my only criticism of the Trophy was the fuel consumption. Other than that is was and absolute beauty.
Paul Griffiths Thanks so much for replying Paul, that is exactly what I wanted to know actually. Was it 30 mpg with luggage and 2 up and zipping on a bit? 120 mile range is not something I would want to live with. Having said that if the bike was excellent in other ways and was full of character I would still consider it. I want it for 2 up runs out but I don’t intend to leave the UK or Ireland on it. I really appreciate you helping me. Thanks Paul 👌
Paul Griffiths Thanks again Paul, that has put me off a bit to be honest. I wonder did your bike have standard gearing?Perhaps you know others that got the same mileage etc. There I go still trying to talk myself into buying it lol.
I look forward to the new video intro!! Will there be a change in music? Hope not. Good review and could feel that bit of a sad feeling of selling an old friend,
Hi mate , I have a confession... I had a 2007 deau , yes it wasn’t quick but I loved it , tbh I miss it .. I have a 1250 rt now all the bells and whistles and I miss the underdog I loved my deau man do you miss yours? Have you ever thought about cashing in and going back?
i have the 1999 650 and best touring bike made and never never let me down , its a mid range touring bike not speedy speedy bike and so so comfortable .
You won't be getting Honda reliability with the BMW trust me. I've enjoyed all the Deauville adventures over the years and look forward to the future vids.. Cheers .
I picked up a 650 last year, I really can't fault it. Commuting, touring home and abroad, fantastic even 2up. Storage is great, but a great all rounder, and my better half is happy behind me aswell. I agree with what u said about the tyres aswell, much happier and comfortable on Michelin's
One of these machines just came up for sale near me with only 7000 miles on it one owner. I’m thinking about it. I’ve had a GL 1800 Goldwing, boring and extremely time consuming to work on. Five hours to change the air filter is with the dealer charges just to change the air filter. I did the job myself and five hours is right. I used to be a motorcycle mechanic at three different shops when I was younger i’ve also had three Yamaha ventures. My current big bike right now is a royal star venture. My small machine right now is a 2019 Kawasaki Z 400. I’ve had big powerful bikes most of the past 30 years, I had a Motor Guzzi, V 11 sport, the most uncomfortable motorcycle in the entire universe, I had a Moto Guzzi Norge 2 valve 1200 loved it, had it 14 years.. I have three videos on my RUclips channel of my last rides on my Norge. I’m one of my favorite roads before I sold it. what makes me consider this anti-700 is, I have had two Honda pacific coast motorcycles. I think they’re called the PC 800 in Europe. My first one got totaled with me sitting on it at a stop sign going to work in the morning. I replaced the first one with my second Pacific coast which I commuted on for 24 years… it only had 48 hp. And I was never at a lack of power anywhere. I could feel that it was not going to set an a quarter-mile records, but once you got it moving, it could keep the pace on the twisties with no problem… The only thing that would keep me from buying this NT 700 would be, heat coming off of the radiator onto the rider.. that heat pouring off of radiators of big horsepower big engine sport touring bikes kept me from buying a Honda ST 1300, that thing was an absolute oven. It kept me from buying the FJR when it came out in 2008 here in the USA, they kept me from buying the concourse Kawasaki, 1400. I heard that thing was an oven in warm weather. so my question to you is, is there an issue with heat coming through the radiator onto the rider with this machine? how is your BMW replacement for your 700 working out for you. I’ve had too many dozens of motorcycles over the decades, and I thought that I would buy a BMW, my first BMW about 14 years ago. So I bought a BMW K 1200 LT. that was the weirdest motorcycle I ever rode. It has that it’s something lever front end that does not compress under braking.. and that machine is very top-heavy. I haven’t dropped a motorcycle since the 1960s. But I dropped that BMW in parking lots two times… just touching those no feel partially electric brakes that are grabby, compounded, by that front end that does not absorb breaking energy, and that top heavy motorcycle with those long Rototiller style handlebars. I couldn’t hold it up, and I am not a skinny little guy. I was at a BMW function and I was talking to three other K 1200 LT owners. I told him I dropped mine.. all three of them started laughing, and said, get used to it, everybody drops them.. then there is the price of parts, and I am a maintenance fanatic, I wanted to change my own brake fluid and clutch fluid that I do on all my machines every year. But the Internet was saying, don’t even attempt it because you will get air in the system and you will have no brakes. You will have to trailer the bike to the dealer to have him do a reset… so I called my local dealer. I asked how much to change the brake fluid. $750 plus disposal fee plus shop materials plus tax, three month wait for an appointment… I bought a video and a special razor for to increase the volume of the master cylinder so that it will not suck dry when the key is on and you hit the brakes and crack the bleeder. I did the job in under an hour… but the reason I sold that BMW. I was on a gravel, covered back road in the country. It was a real small gravel. We call fly ash. It was a slope going downhill about as long as the soccer field with a 90° turn at the bottom. My ABS system detected that I was on gravel, when I touched the brakes to keep my speed down, I had no breaks at all, none. I was trying the pedal., and the front brake lever. Nothing. I was lucky. There was an auto salvage yard at the bottom of the hill. I ran through the grass and into the wire fence surrounding that salvage yard to stop. The only damage I had was a broken front fender. I put the bike up for sale the next day. I forgot to mention that using the side stand, created plumes of white smoke out the exhaust on the restart if you use the side stand. The dealer said that’s normal.. Final drives were failing across the country. People were having issues with the final drive bearings. The dealer said that is only because people overload their bikes and pull trailers. That turned out to be not true. They were failing on guys that ride solo. One picture of a GS was in a magazine nationwide, the final drive housing had exploded, and the gear lube inside was on fire.. that was my first and last BMW.. that’s why I’m asking you, how has your BMW that you bought to replace the 700 been??
Hi Pal, great history of bikes there. The BMW, well......it lasted 3 years, then I got rid of it. Plagued with faults. I wish I'd never sold my Honda. The Deauville had to be the best bike I've ever owned. Yes, she was a little underpowered two up, but overall, a good workhorse. In the 8 years of ownership, it never once faulted. Nowadays, they are pretty rare, and finding a good one is a challenge. I now own a 2022 Honda NT1100 (DCT). If you have a look at my Romania tour from 2019, the BMW was only 3 months old. By the end of the trip, it was back at the dealership. 👍👍👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 I am not surprised about the issues you had with your BMW. They sure ain’t what they used to be since the early 70s when they introduced the K bikes.. those BMWs have become so complex, you have to marry the dealer ..Just look what happened to actor Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman on their trip around the world on BMWs. One of the bikes brakes quit working, and even with Help talking to the mechanics by phone from Mongolia, they could not get the brakes to work even a little bit, and they shipped that bike back to England by train, and bought a Jawa locally and gave that bike to the cameraman.. there were four BMW dealerships within an hour of my home here in Pittsburgh, PA, USA, now there are zero dealers for BMW I have an acquaintance that was a BMW mechanic at that one motorcycle shop near me. I stopped him to ask him a question about the brake, bleed procedure. He had a K 1200 LT on his bench, just like the one I had, he had everything from the back of the engine back removed. Now this was in 2010, so the price is a 2010 price. he told me that the slave cylinder leaked on the clutch so the clutch needed replaced. I asked him how much that job will cost the owner. $4500, plus shop materials, plus disposal fee, plus tax.
So that's the "Final Countdown"eh lets hope she goes to a good home, best of luck with the newbie on the block ;-) ;-) Liking the lid n jacket ???? Ride Safe Baza ;-)
My biggest regret about bikes is that I bought a Vstrom 650 instead of a Deauville many years ago. I was infected by Motorcycle news-type snobbery about trendy bikes and their dim-witted "only fast or cool bikes are valid". Silly me. I tested the Deauville and it was amazingly comfortable, capable, reliable, as fast as I ever needed but I looked over it in favour of the Vstrom which was top heavy, had a hideously uncomfortable seat, a lousy, useless screen and while a pleasure to ride was not a pleasure to own. Unfortunately, knee-down bike snobbery relegated the Deauville to the dustbin of uncool, which is most unfair. It was, and is, an outstandingly well made bike and on EU roads is as fast as anyone could wish, unless you are a nutter with a death wish.
Ive a lovelly little kawasaki gpz500s, and I find thats quick enough for me these days. Im 55 next year and been riding since i was 16. Always had a motorbike. I now ride to work as i can't stand driving at all. Ive a Honda vfr800x crossrunner 2012 62 which ive been to Normandy on this year. Did 1000 in 4 days. Been to Belgium 5 times on various bikes from a Aprilia Mille RSV, Z1000, Triumph 675 and a ZXR900. But the crossrunner is really heavy, and i have decided to tour the UK from now on. Im touring wales next year and have decided to look at 700 Dvelille thingy next week. Ive had around 60 odd bikes in my time so ill ride anything for a laugh. No bikes or cars impress me now.
all i can say is buy a deauville 700 for touring on tarmac !!!!!!!!!!!! the best comfy bike i have ever had and just plods along at 75 or 80 miles ph all day long .
I've had a 2007 model since new. For the first 10 years I used it for daily commuting into London, but the last 6 it has been just a pleasure bike. You might have a different screen to me (but it looks the same). Mine has two positions, which you adjust be undoing the brackets and turning them up the other way before bolting them back up again. It's 30 mins to change the position, unless you are slick. On the lower setting, I think the bike looks great and quite a sports/tourer, but it has quite a bit of wind noise and buffeting at speed. On the higher setting, it looks like a barn door tourer, but I can do 80mph with my visor up and no buffeting (I have an open face helmet as there is so little buffeting). Apart from service consumables (oil/filters/spark plugs/brake pads/tyres/batteries/bulbs etc), mine has needed three bits of work - a fix for the right hand pannier (about 12 years ago, the lock is on the left and the mechanism linking the panniers was known to fail), a bit of welding on the exhaust (about 8 years ago, though it is still the original exhaust) and replacement HT leads (1 year ago). Oh, and some WD40 in the indicator switch which stopped working when turning right a few months ago, but has worked since the WD40 fix. It is the fastest bike I ever took from London to Snowdonia, as it only ever needed one stop - around Telford to fuel up, never needing a comfort stop (London to Telford is at least 3 hours). Some bikes needed two fuel stops and often more for comfort breaks - riding my Hornet was a three stop trip as it was uncomfortable on a motorway. The Deauville crushes distance at speed. #HondaBuildQuality
The NT700 Deauville is a touring motorcycle for whom touring equals relaxation of driving and a highway, you should not want to be there, then you should have the ST Pan, which are highway touring motorcycles. The NT700 feels best on the rural 2-lane roads that you choose to take a nice drive and enjoy the views and surroundings. The NT700 does not tempt you into unsafe maneuvers because it does not have the configuration to make that possible. It is not a sports bike, but a nice touring bike for those who consider speed and hurried handling undesirable.
I bought one last year and the first time I road it I immediately felt what you're saying. It's a bike with a very nice calm temperament that just does what you ask of it without fuss. It makes you want to ride relaxed and enjoy yourself and that's exactly what I was looking for. If you're a thrill seeker, it's probably not the bike you're looking for (hence the reputation). But it's not what draws me to riding a bike; I just want to take my gf on the bike and enjoy being outside with the wind in my face. It's a perfect bike for that.
@@vleessjuu I never had a problem riding it on motorways, it was totally relaxed at 70mph with much more to give.
Good review. This model was imported into the US only in 2010 and 2011. I have the ABS model, which in the US is known as the NT700VA. Honda stopped making/importing them because sales were not good. The price point was too high, actually at $10,000 US ($11,000 US for ABS model). Used ones can be picked up for around $5,000 US. ABS models are rare, as only 20% of the total NT700V units imported into US have ABS. One really nice thing about this bike is that it is legendary Honda reliable! And Hondas are reasonable to service, unlike Beemers!
Thanks Ed. I agree Honda Build quality is excellent. I have owned this bike for 8 years and loved every minute of it. I will be sad to see her go.
Agree. Im now going to look at altering the screen. After 30 years i went back to motorcycling. Bought a Burgman 400 which i broke. Then i found my dream bike, an FJ1200. Scared myself. Bought the 700 Deauville and its a beauty. Gave me my confidence back. So much so i now have fun on the FJ.
The clever tunnelled rear paniers allow me to break down my "crip stick" so no one knows im disabled untill i dismount and get my stick out.
One of the most balanced reviews on the bike and anyone thinking of getting one should watch this. I’ve had three, one 650 and two 700’s. I only traded up to a 1300 pan as I take a pillion and fully loaded plus pillion the Deauville suffers just a bit... it’ll still do the miles and in comfort for both rider and pillion but as you rightly say the pick up is affected.... not so on the Pan or I guess the RT. Only weakness is the panniers and the rear wheel removal. Treat the panniers with respect (Don’t slam them) and after a few wheel removals its not so bad. There is an excellent Deau community who meet up and have a late may bank holiday mega meet plus there is the international DMD (Deauville Meets Deauville) not so many Deauvilles now. I am looking out for a minter to have as my ‘next’ bike as the Pan gets heavier each year ! Safe riding and thanks again for a top review.
Thanks Nev. Thanks for watching.
I've had bigger bike's in the past, then I stop riding for years, three years ago I started watching your channel when you was in Scotland and I knew then I had to get a bike again, so I bought a Yamaha wr 125r only got 12 HP and did 65 mph but I went to Scotland from the forest of dean in August 2016, I loved it. I'm planning another trip this August to Scotland on a 125 again.
Hi Dave, thanks for watching. That's really great and means a lot that you have followed the channel from the beginning. Glad to hear you got back into biking. Enjoy Scotland pal. Take care and safe riding.
You don’t need a big bike to tour, I did thousands of miles around Asia on a 125cc Honda.
Nice review of one of the best bikes in the world. I've done just under 250,000 miles on three bikes - commuting and touring. I just wish they still made them, as it's all the bike I need.
Cheers pal, I do miss my old Deauville. Thanks for watching.
Thanks Paul - Just found your review a few hours after putting a deposit down on a low mileage 09' NT700V and you've made me feel confident that I've made the right choice.
Thanks, you will love the Deauville, I had 8 years with mine and loved every minute of it. Thanks for watching. Safe riding and enjoy your new ride.
Adam, i hope you are enjoying your Deau. I have a 2014 reg'd one. 2 handy tips, 1. lower yokes on forks 10mm and it goes around corners much better. 2. For taking off rear wheel, remove lower shock bolt and swing arm drops a bit more allowing a socket onto spindle nut, but better still the rear caliper now has room to come down and out to right side. No need to remove exhaust or right side pannier and panel.
@@TeezerDriz Thanks for the tip on the back wheel - I've not had to take it out yet as the disc and pads won't need changing for a while and I don't do my own tyres! I rebuilt the front forks last spring and the handling improved a lot from when I'd collected it. I might try the yoke trick, but I've not had any trouble keeping up with other riders to date!
I have just bought one for a couple a grand!! On the road 1st nov..cant wait. Thx for the vid really enjoyed it!!
Hope you are enjoying it. Lookup NRR2022. Chance to give it a good ride out.
This reminds me of the eight years or so that I had a 1982 Honda GL500I Silverwing Interstate as my main transportation. It was a fabulous machine, capable of passing semis on American freeways at 80 mph even heavily loaded. Honda followed with the perfect GL650I in 1983... and stopped making them! They followed a bit later with the Pacific Coast PC800, very much a cult machine these days, and the Deauville came next. At least there are lots of quite affordable Deauvilles on the market these days, but a good GL650I would be the ideal. Absolutely beautiful bike.
I never understand why Honda stop making these bikes you're completely right and I totally agree 👍.
Thanks for watching. Greetings from the 🇬🇧 👍👍👍
I see that this video was some time ago but I thought I would add to the praise that you have given this remarkable machine. I bought my 700 2 year old with 2200 miles on the clock back in 2011. The next 9 years it predominantly was used to commute 37 miles each way from Dunstable to Square mile of London. It currently has 128,000 miles on the clock. Now in my retirement I am planning to complete the 3 nations road rallies on it, having completed platinum challenges on England National Road Rallies over last 6 years. Next year I hope to ride to the 4 most furthest compass points of UK mainland by A roads over 8 days. I have ridden many other bikes at shows and test rides but nothing has persuaded me to give up the Deauville. Its cheap to run, easy to maintain, comfortable to ride long distances, enough poke to overtake and have some fun. At my mileage yes I have had some things go wrong but easily covered by the savings I made compared to public transport. If you get the chance to buy a second hand one buy it. I was tempted to go and buy a new bike with some of my savings NC700X most likely, but with no shaft drive or protection and lower average mileage now I thought why bother. So last weekend I set off to Wales at 5.45am as prep run for Welsh NRR, over Severn Bridge up the Wye Valley to Ross on Wye and back home along A40. 288 miles. Refilled 16l after 222 and back home by 2pm. I will be keeping mine for a little while longer. Oh and this year's insurance renewal £144 Inc fully comp, breakdown cover, ncd protection, clothing cover, through Bennetts. Yes it should have had a 6th gear.
Thank you, I wish I had never got rid of the Deauville. I absolutely miss the old girl. She was the best bike I ever owned. I've ordered the new NT1100 hopefully receiving it at the end of this month. I stupidly bought the BMW R1250RT and have had 3 years of endless problems. Thanks for watching pal 👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 shame the NT1100 is not shaft drive considering its a big tourer. Reporter said it was heavy enough as it was. The engine based on the Africa Twin should be a delight which I have ridden a couple of years ago.
Hi thanks for your imput .I am in the process of purchasing one from honda Glasgow an0l 06 plate .There is no indication at 30000 miles in the service history of valve clearance checks . Could you please let me know how often or do you check yours ? Thank you 😊
John Cumming I check the tappets on mine every 16,000 miles. They tend to loosen than tighten so if not checked from new then it may sound a bit tappy. Good news, you can check the tappets yourself if you have a 3/8 socket set and 3/8 torque wrench plus feeler gauges and standard toolkit. At a steady pace you can get it done in 3 hours.
We had the 650 Deauville in 2004 when I got back to biking after a 14 year break from biking. As you said, two up they do struggle a little on overtaking but as long as you allow for this, it's fine. In September 2004 we changed the Deauville for the ST1300 Pan European. Your bike will be a great bike for someone because you've looked after it.
Thanks Paul, I was really sad when I part x her. She has been a brilliant bike for the past 8 years. My dad would of wanted me to get a new bike so that's what made me change. Hope you are ok Paul,? Good to see you posting again. Thank you for watching and your support.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Hi Paul. Yes he would, he'll be very proud of you. I'm very much up and down Paul. Watching you going towards the Ponderosa makes me both sad and happy. I'm hoping to ride again Paul but the thought of not having my lass with me breaks me in two. One bit of news is that after almost two years, I'm getting back behind the wheel. I've ordered a car. I'll require assistance yes getting in and out but being able to go further than 35 miles that Zippy can go and much faster of course. If you are over my way any time, please call in for a brew.
@@npr1300A8 Hi Paul, feel awful I hadn't had chance to come and see you sooner. I am away for Easter weekend. After that I am free most weekends. If give me a few dates I can come up and visit. If you send me a message through messenger we can organise a date Paul.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Please don't feel bad Paul. Be good to see you.
Just bought a 700 Deauville, a very nice bike, I came from an NTV650 Revere that felt a bit more sporty with the pegs raked back a bit, the Deauville is more upright as you said.
Practical, comfortable, not too tall or heavy and enough power.
Good review mate.👍
Cheers pal 👍
Just got my 2010 Silver Deauville here in Tokyo Japan a few weeks ago... I haven't ridden in a while and nothing over a 400cc. This bike is absolutely amazing! Perfect for me. I am 6ft 3 inches and was concerned about the seating position but it is fine. I can flat foot it both sides at stop signals and it has a lot of torque in the lower gears. Actually 1st gear ratio with the shaft drive
surprised me at first as it will totally "Jump off the line". Now that I own it, I never see getting a different bike. I am 65 years old, still quite healthy (knock on wood) and from what I have heard, these engines can go well into the 6 figures miles or km before any major maintenance. Just love my Deauville and it looks so Rad and Cool as we would say in California! As he said, Brilliant !!
Good review. I had a NT650, passed my IAM on it actually. Then I had a CBF1000, which was very fast but I returned to the shaft drive NT700. I rode that for two years, but I often took a pillion and it was hard work. I went from that to a ST1300 PAN, but I really missed the NT700. If solo then the NT700 was enough. I couldn’t believe it when Honda stopped making them in favour of the NC700. Then I went to BMW R & RT and now I ride a Triumph T120, but the Deauvilles hold a special place in my heart. Bullet, proof, cheap to run. Yes you do have to change down gear a lot as they are heavy. A great commuter bike as well as touring. You gave a good honest review. There was a good Deauville community online I remember. The BMW RT Group on Facebook i can highly recommend too.
Thanks Pete, I had My Deauville for 8 years and has taken me around Europe many times. I will miss her. Thanks for watching.
Just bought one today with 15000 miles from new and,, I've a k6 gsxr1000 so be.comfy for the wife from northern Ireland great video☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
Good luck, 15k miles she sounds a beauty 👌
Thanks for watching pal 👍
Great review and exactly as I recalled mine. I had a silver 2008 NT700 a few years ago. I "upgraded" it to a CBF1000GT with the full luggage. (I've changed several times since a heart attack at 55, but back to full health). I always missed the NT and said if a later one came up in red I'd buy it. And so I'm now the proud owner of a Sept'11 registered NT700 in red with 9,200 miles and good service history. Has to be excellent value at £2,500. So pleased with it. At 5'8" I recalled being on not quite balls of feet astride the bike so have just ordered a Top Sellarie seat from France. It's got gel inserts and more importantly for me is lowered by almost 15mm which should make all the difference.
Cheers, Paul, I really miss mine. I sold it in 2019 for an RT1250. After 3 years, I got rid of it. I've gone back to Honda now, and last year, I bought the NT1100. Lovely bike However, I miss Deauville. If a good one ever came up, I'd be tempted to buy it. Thanks for watching, pal 👍
Yes, I’ve been watching your videos. (and subscribed). Friend of mine has the Nt1100 DCT also; loves it. I’m not doing big trips, so loving wee day runs out on the Deaville.
@Paul Brown cheers, pal 👍
Thanks foe this review, I've just got back into bikes after a 20 year gap lol 😆 I'm currently tootling around on a XJ600 which is grand and I'm thoroughly enjoying it but when it's time to upgrade, the Deauville is top of the list.
They are great bikes. In saying that ao is the xj600. They are also a great ride. 👍
I completely agree that a 2020 Deauville with a soft-tune VFR engine would be great. Not just Honda, but all motorcycle manufacturers seem to be dropping the fairing/pannier touring bikes. I suppose the manufacturers are listening to hard to the motorcycle press who are only interested in suicide machines and radical off-road designs.
It looks like a NT1100 is coming next year, africa twin engine shaft drive, about 90-100bhp.
Agreed. The Motorcycle press is dominating the agenda (and MCN with its mental age of about eleven) by bullying manufacturers into producing a succession of either unaffordable "adventure" bikes which actually rarely leave the tarmac, or boy racer uncomfortable Nakeds with no space for luggage. The RT is virtually the only viable contemporary touring bike under a 3rd of a ton left but it is just too expensive.
ST11000, 1300 were the V4 models exactly like Deauville, 700. Great bikes. Better inn every way, except weight. Everyone seems to forget that. VFRs totally different.
Its a great bike it seems like, its been good to you! But like all good things it must come to an end and a new chapter opens with the BMW right at the centre. Hope you have as much happiness on your new bike as you did with the Honda, good luck!
Cheers Aled. I have not forgotten your pic. It will appear on next vid mate. Thanks for watching pal.
Hi Paul, that bike sure served you well. After seeing all your vids i bought myself a bike again, guess what...a sport touring machine. So i can start riding my own adventures 😉
I’ve sold my old bike two years ago but now i’m thrilled and cant wait to restart! Let the new touring season begin.....
Hi Pal, that's great news that you got yourself a new bike. What are you riding now?
Thanks for watching mate.
A second hand Yamaha fazer 8 with saddle bags on both sides so lots of storage room for trips 👌😉
@@beeckaertbrecht1227 Fazer's are great bikes, they are a good tourer.
Good luck and safe riding mate.
I just traded in my 2010 Honda NT700V ABS (Deauville) I put 33,000 miles on it and it was my first bike and I loved it! Because of the Honda quality, I decided to go with the Honda Africa Twin(And I love it).
Great choice
I am looking at getting back on a bike after many years off one. There are only a few of these on the used market where I live (SE USA) but the two I’ve seen are in excellent shape and reasonably priced. I think the folks who’ve owned them have tended to take great care of them.
Hi Ted, if your getting back into biking, the Deauville is a perfect bike. If you have found a good quality one it's worth getting it. The good fo 60 to the gallon. Total range 200 miles easily. Good luck pal. Thanks for watching. Stay safe.
I'd keep it in case the BM lives up to their 'reputation' or any other problems. Nothing worse than being bikeless.
I really enjoyed watching your vids. An honest review that puts the pro journalists in their place. It's unfashionable to like the Deauville yet in this country motorcycling is more boys with plastic toys, than real world transport. Those clad in one piece leathers looking like Quasi Modo and thinking they've just seen off Rossi, are the joke. This is a really practical and functional motorbike for all year round riding in comfort. I reckon you'll be disappointed with your replacement.
Cheers pal 👍
Hi Paul, what where the tyres you mentioned? The VO is a bit muffled and can't quite catch the make and number. Thank you for your reply in advance.
@@oliverashton4141 Hi pal, they were Michelin Pilot Roads 4's at the time of recording. Cheers pal 👍
A lack of power does not mean a dull motorcycle. I get the most fun out of my Suzuki DR125 that might have has 12 BHP twenty one years ago when it was built but even now it is more than enough to bring out the smiles.
While I was typing this you were going on about how great it would have been if Honda had put a V4 in the Deauville… Let me think… Honda? V4? Shaft drive? Touring? Oh yes, that’s the Pan European. I had one of those for nine years between buying it new in 2012 and trading it in in 2021, now that was an excellent bike in both its Sport and Tourer moments. When I bought it I lived in Germany and regularly cruised on the Autobahn at about 90 mph. The bike was capable of travelling much faster than that, and did on many occasions, but the beauty of the Autobahn is that you can choose how fast you want to travel, you don’t all have to travel at a too low maximum speed that keeps you all together. I think you are exaggerating about the speed that the cars travel as well, you will occasionally come across someone travelling at 140-150+ mph but that is and always has been extremely rare.
Thanks for watching and commenting. This video is a few years old now, and so am I. As you get older, your views change. One of my biggest regrets was selling ghe Deauville. It was a fantastic bike. You're right. The Pan European was amazing too. Cheers 👍
I’ve also got a Deauville. Agree with your thoughts about the bike especially the screen . The deauville is a real ‘ Jack of all trades ‘ .It does all aspects of motorcycling to a competent standard . On a personal note , I live in Kent ,but originally from the Wirral .Nice to see you on the road to the Ponderosa via Hawarden . That was the route I always used to get into North Wales.
Cheers Paul, thanks for watching pal.
I strongly recommend that you keep the Honda. Reliability.
Cheers Pal
Hi Griff,
Great review, can I ask what camera's you use, they are something I now find myself wanting more and more and your footage seems to be about the right quality and with good audio.
Cheers pal 👍.
This video was filmed about 4 years ago now. At the time, I was using the Drift Ghost S HD. Back then, they were brilliant cameras. Sadly the new Drift XL Pro 4k isn't as good. The Field of View on the Drifts has reduced from 160° to 140° which sadly doesn't pick as much of the road footage.
I am now using the Go Pro Hero 11. However, still use the standard Drift microphone, which plugs directly into the Gopro media mod.
Thanks for watching the channel, pal. 👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 Thanks for the prompt reply Paul. I might save up a bit more and go for the go-pro myself. Keep up the good videos .
@Ian Skeldon Cheers, Ian
I have enjoyed your review, wonderful bike.
I've found one here in Kenya where I live.
My question is, will the bike be any good here on these harsh roads. Lots of gravel roads and many potholes, compared to Europe even your country roads are silky carpeted .
If you want the truth, I never took the Deauville off-road. All I can tell you is that it's a good all-rounder bike. Good on fuel economy and very reliable 👍👍
Thanks for watching, pal 👍
thank you im just starting agian and have look at this bike and you have just confarmed that this is the one for me im 67 yrs old and dont want to kill my self on somthing thas going to rip my arms of
Good luck with your new bike John. Thanks for watching
Rode a 1300ST up to 2.5K Km commuting and fun rides. Traded it in for a Goldwing 1800GL, thinking I'd go train it to work. After six months of public transportation frustration I'm done with that, and get myself a NT700 Deauville for commuting purposes. Commuting on my Wing won't cut it, and I specifically bought that one for pleasure touring.
I decided not to go for another Pan European. Although a phenomenal ride, it's too expensive as second bike.
I expect to sort of get to 80% of the pleasure scale, which for its cost would be quite adequate.
Your review is another confirmation the Deauville is a no drama, dependable and all round good ride bike.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Cheers Leo, you will love it. I had mine for over 8 years and loved every minute of it. Good luck with your new ride. Thanks for watching. Safe riding sir.
@@paulgriffiths6404 First impression after a couple of weeks: What a sweet machine. With galeforce 7 from the side it wants to play with you some, but it remains predictable and easy to ride regardless of what you throw at it.
The engine is fantastic, lots of torque
Cheers pal
Ah! Shortly after I got my NT700VA, I bought the large pannier covers from David Silvers Spares (UK). (The large covers were not sold in the US for some reason.) Cost me about $500 US, but I didn't have to pay VAT. The large covers make touring possible, and they have the "Deauville" name on them.
Yeah agree. Mine has the large panniers and the internal bags with it. Makes a massive difference in touring. I also use a
Lump bag for extra space.
Hello Paul,
Only found your vids by looking for a review on the Deauville, enjoyed watching your touring adventures with Ray immensely. I ride a sv650 as I am a bit short in the limb department (29 ins) what are they like for flat footing ? I'm guessing you are slightly bigger in the trouser department (pardon !) Than me. I'm serious about trading up if I can ride one without tip toeing the thing. Looking out for you on the BMW when I'm out as I am a local gent residing in Moreton. Thanks mate.
Good review Paul! Shaft drive of course, which is a big bonus if you're clocking lots of miles. How many miles did you put on it while you had it Paul, a fair few I bet! I do think we tend to get blinkered by what 'The Press' and the reviewers say somewhat, where their idea of what makes a good bike, is not always what most people would be more than very satisfied with. Read any owner reviews of this bike and it scores 5* all the way. Hear what you are saying about the VFR engine.... just think what you saved in servicing costs! From what I've read they are more reliable than a Swiss watch, yours still looks very tidy mate. Enjoy your new R1250RT excellent choice.
Cheers Paul. I have put just short of 45k on it. Yeah shaft drive is a great bonus. (Whoops forgot to mention that). She has never let me down. Will be sad to see her go. Still have her for a few weeks though. Thanks for watching pal.
Keep it. I've had alot of bikes over the year and my deuville is by far the most comfortable bike I've ridden. I doubt I will ever sell it. After the cx500 couriers turned to the deauvilles. For the reliability
Cheers pal 👍👍👍👍👍
Before the Deauville and after the cx500 was the forgotten little brother, the NTV600 Revere.
Nice vid buddy. I live in Portugal but recognised the road from Two Mills to Hawarden and I guess at the end you turned right to The Ponderosa. Hope you enjoyed your lunch. Great job !
Cheers Pal, Thanks for watching. Yeah it was a good breakfast. Thanks Pal, safe riding
Why not a V4? The Deauville is about practicality and low maintenance. Honda could keep the price low. There are enough other options to choose from if you want more power.
What I never understood is why they didn't put a DCT on it.
Totally agree pal, V4 would of been ideal. Thanks for watching. 👍👍👍👍
What a genuine review off this bike you said as it is own a tl 1000s its a pig but I love it have gone to scotland from ireland on a honda shadow 1100 two up nearly killed us wrecked plenty duevilles in ireland but as you said overtaking and two up and bad road s don't mix but a great bike for tipping around
Cheers pal, thanks for watching 👍👍👍
Nice video. Beginning rider looking fr first bike. Im a short rider with 29 inch inseam so Im looking at this one or the Kawasaki 650 Vulcan S. I love the included fairing along w saddlebags and integrated storage
Cheers Pal,
Can you tell me how you can tell how a deauville is lowered only asking because I know the roads you've just been riding on .
To be fair, pal, not too sure. It's been 4 years since I owned my. I'm 5ft 11 and I could sit flat foot comfortably.
As a commuter, what's it like in terms of "nippiness" - pulling out at junctions, accelerating out of people's way, that sort of thing. I have a Diversion XJ600S at the moment and am considering changing. It's not going to set the world on fire for adrenaline, but it's a bit lighter and doesn't have much less power than the deauville; and being able to shoot off around traffic is really useful and often much safer than hanging around in people's way. I wonder if I'll miss its instantaneous 0 to 30 or 20 to 40 etc.
Also it's incredibly basic which makes for easy maintenance. Are there many "gotchas" on the deauville eg anything that often goes wrong, likely to be expensive to repair, etc?
I thing for nipping in and out of traffic your Yamaha might be slightly better, However the Deauville is cheap on insurance and with the shaft drive is good on maintenance. In my view both are fantastic bikes. My advice is to ride one. I am a bit biased but I owned a Deauville for 8 years. If it was me the Deauville would win every day.
I've had three Deauvilles and ride in London all the time. In my opinion it's perfect for 'cut and thrust' riding in an urban environment. Nippy enough, if you use the gears, and no throttle lag. Good balance and brakes. And has some physical presence, which helps too. Hope that helps!
I had a Honda Deauville from 2009 to 2014, when I decided to downsize to a Honda CBR 250 R. I think the year I bought my Deauville, 2009, was the year they stopped making them. After 6 years with my CBR 250 R I have decided to step up again (slightly). I like to buy new rather than second hand and if they still made the Deauville I would consider buying another one. As it happens I have decided on the Honda CBR 500 R. Interesting review. Was this video tour the Wirral ? I seemed to recognise Neston and the Chester Road. Could be wrong.
Yeah, Wirral is my home turf. I absolutely loved the Deauville. Safe to say it was the best bike I ever owned. I have the BMW RT1250 now. Believe me I would go.back in a heartbeat. Thanks for watching pal, safe riding 👍👍👍👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 Hi paul. I hope to get a deauville in the not too distant future,probably the 700, i live in Ireland but my partner lives in the wirral, There is a 2013 700 deauville over here for 6500k euros that is.rode bikes years ago but would love to get back into touring again.love the video an honest report .thanks regards ride safe Alan.
Thanks for this review, which I found really helpful. Do you think this would make a good first big bike? I'm tootling around on a 125 to get experience etc. but I'm in the market for an upgrade when I pass my test. I'm looking for something that's easy to ride, reliable and powerful enough to make progress on A roads. I'm 54 so not interested in going fast or breaking the speed limit. Thoughts?
These are absolutely great bikes. I actually regret trading mine in. I originally bought it in 2011 as a return to biking. I traded it in 8 years later. These are great for commuting and a Brilliant mile cruncher. They are plenty powerfull enough fir progression on A roads.
@@paulgriffiths6404 thanks, Paul. And good for a first big bike? Easy to ride? Not too intimidating? Finally, would weight be an issue for a learning rider? I guess low centre of gravity so that must compensate any weight issues? Thanks again for review. Great job.
@@scrumpymanjack yeah, weight is absolutely fine. Low speed control is also fine.
Hi Paul .New subscriber here Yes i am seriously thinking about getting a Honda Deauville NT 700. At present i have got a 2006 Royal Enfield 350 bullet just for carting stuff back and too to my allotments.For many years between 2004 and 2017 i had a Triumph sprint St 955 i from new that was a fantastic bike.And i have got the bug to travel and tour again so yeah looking forward to getting a Deauville in the coming months.Thanks again for such a great review. Cheers John.
Cheers John. The Deauville does what it says on the tin. Great tourer and mile cruncher. The sprint st is a great machine. You will notice a difference in power however that is a trade off for comfort. Thanks for watching pal.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Cheers Paul, I have now got a Deauville NT 700 on an 11 plate. After watching your video`s i notice you had a tank bag on your Deauville is it expandable?I was looking at the Oxford expandable tank bags 30L or 40L which i used to use one on a Honda 500s twin many years ago and that was excellent. cheers John.
@@johnscuckoopatchandallotme4266 Hi John, Mine was a 20L non expandable Oxford. 30L I reckon would be ideal for touring. If it is magnetic, just make sure the magnetic ends are long enough as part of the tank is plastic.
Nice vid and bike review keep looking at these bikes.
Cheers pal
Is the Deauville a capable tourer with a pillion ? I have a few bikes but the Deauville was the first bike i ever rode after passing my test and always wanted one. Was thinking of getting one to travel from Wales to Scotland, not fussed about the overtaking or speed, just a comfortable bike so myself and wife and do some touring. Have been offered a low mileage bike very cheap and in immaculate condition, but just have concerns on carrying a pillion. Great review 👍
Yeah, it's great two up for comfort and will always get to your destination refreshed. It not actually that bad two up for riding. You'll just need to plan your overtakes more that's all.
@@paulgriffiths6404 Thanks for the reply, i just think its an affordable tourer, been looking at the BMW RT and Yamaha FJR 1300, but for a bike a will probably use a few times in the year the Deauville seems a good option. Cheers
Probably the best bike I owned, always regretted selling it.
@stevetaylor8698 completely agree pal, I wish I had never sold mine
I enjoyed my Deuville for the short time i had it but some of the reason i chopped it for for a RT was the panniers were too small really for 2 people and they were fixed,where as the RT you just flip a lever and their a suit case,And on the Honda if you got a puncture in the rear or you had to work on it removing the back wheel was a mare ,, on the RT its just 5 bolts,,,And you're right about the screen, i had mine on high going up the M6 fully loaded with the wife (pre load adjusted) and the front became very unstable ,Anyhow ,enjoy the RT Paul,,,Did you get the Nav 6 thrown in?
Hi Rick, I will miss the Deauville, she has been great bike. I had the extra large panniers on mine. I did order the Nav 6 for the BMW and also the top box. Thanks for watching Rick.
I know this video was three years ago but I was just wondering if this bike would be OK for some who has just passed and would like one as my first big bike any advice would be great
Hi Pal, Definitely a great choice. I would have a Deauville again. They are a great tourer. Low maintenance and shaft drive. I never had a day's trouble with mine. In fact I still regrets selling it. The main advice is change the shaft oil regularly. I used to do it at every service. Oh and stay clear of Bridgestone tyres. They track the road on the Deauville. I found the pilot Roads to be the best.
Thanks for the advice that's really helped me make my mind up thanks again
You make a good point about one with a VFR engine.
Was their VFR1200 the attempt at this? Could have done with being more roomy, but the shaft drive is there. Maybe an 800 would be cheaper to run.
Yeah agree, slightly more power, mainly when two up is were it was needed most.
Had one , totally agree . the only bike I've ever owned that I miss . shows how nonsense peoples wants of bikes are that Honda discontinued them . to put in perspective I've owned race tuned r.d.`s and currently own a dyna and a guzzi v7 3 .
Cheers pal, thanks for watching. Safe riding.
Thanx for the review, don't suppose u have a link for the tyres u recommend?
If you ask your local supplier for Pilot Road 3's.
Thanx for getting back to me, is 150/70z r17 the best rear tyre size?
@@jonr7493 Not too sure pal, I sold my Deauville in 2019.
Thats true lol, thanx again for getting back to me, love ur channel and will defo keep watching
I'm possibly looking at a 100+ mile commute in the near future and have been browsing the NC750X/CB500X models, but this almost seems like a better contender! Shaft drive for a start (vs chain), comes with all the storage I'd need from the factory, so no added costs or messing about, looks to be a whole lot more comfortable than either of the other two I'm looking at, not too bad on fuel, AND it can be had for a good deal less...
What's the catch? 🤔
If you get a good one it's worth the buy. Shaft drive is great. Low maintenance. They do about 60mpg. The new CB500x is amazing and I am lead to believe it does close to 100mpg. If your not concerned about a chain drive either nc750x or cb500x are great. However if you've found a mint Deauville it's worth a look. 👍👍👍
@@paulgriffiths6404 From what I've seen, if I were to go for either a 500X or 750X it'd have to be a relatively new one, so the amount of money I'd be saving on fuel wouldn't offset the added cost for at least a few years. I'm still running some numbers, but it looks like I might end up just living with the 60mpg for a while instead.
That or keep the 125 a while longer 😆
@@233kosta I have similar thinking. You can get nt700 in good condition for around £3k, 500x for £6.5k, and 750x for £8.5k. significant difference but.. you get 2 years warranty, better fuel consumption, and probably no extra cost for parts for at least 3 years to come. with around 12 year old bike anything can happen. It might serve you well for the next years but it might cost you a fortune to fix it, it's a lottery. Also, I guess that those newer bikes have better working ABS etc, maybe I'm wrong. Can't tell anything about comfort, I was only sitting on all three bikes in the showroom. Hard decision
Thanks for channel. I was considering to get rid of my 2008 14000 mile Deauville or a 67 plate NC750X. But touring is more comfortable. One has to go but which one?????
That's a tough one mate, both are great bikes. I would have the same problem I reckon. It took me two years to finally part with my Deauville.
Thanks for the review. I'm planning to buy a bike as a beginner 😎 I checked Varadero, NC 750x and this one. I guess it is better to go for Deauville considering if mechanical breakdown r not often happenning, any advice on this subject? Thanks a lot. Cheers..
Cheers pal.
Hi Paul, good review of the Deauville , could you please let me know your thoughts on the 1200 trophy that you owned.was it a rewarding bike to ride etc, I am considering buying one. I’m a mechanic by trade so I know it’s not going to match the Japanese reliability etc. Would love to hear what you have to say about the trophy 1200. 👍
Hi, thanks for watching. My old Deauville, I do miss that bike. She was a beauty. My Triumph Trophy 1200. Well it was a 2003 model, absolutely a mile cruncher. I did over 30,000 miles on her and the chain was still in excellent condition. Rarely had to adjust it. It was comfy, and very reliable. The engine was smooth and had plenty of torque for overtaking in any gear. However the only drawback with it was the fuel consumption. If you were planning a long trip make you need to make sure you allowed for many fuel stops. I was only averaging 30MPG at best. I found my range was about 130 miles to the tank. That would be my only criticism of the Trophy was the fuel consumption. Other than that is was and absolute beauty.
Paul Griffiths Thanks so much for replying Paul, that is exactly what I wanted to know actually. Was it 30 mpg with luggage and 2 up and zipping on a bit? 120 mile range is not something I would want to live with. Having said that if the bike was excellent in other ways and was full of character I would still consider it. I want it for 2 up runs out but I don’t intend to leave the UK or Ireland on it. I really appreciate you helping me. Thanks Paul 👌
@@listairgin To be fair that was the only fault, however must stress the 30mpg was 1 up and nursing it. You'll be in the high 20's two up
Paul Griffiths Thanks again Paul, that has put me off a bit to be honest. I wonder did your bike have standard gearing?Perhaps you know others that got the same mileage etc. There I go still trying to talk myself into buying it lol.
I look forward to the new video intro!! Will there be a change in music? Hope not. Good review and could feel that bit of a sad feeling of selling an old friend,
Thanks for watching. Yeah I am looking forward to the new one. No plans to change the music, just the pictures on the intro. Cheers
what about a honda cg 125?
@@TINGVELL I used to own one when I first started riding. They ate great learning bikes also good for town commuting. I'm certainly have one again 👍👍
Can anyone help me as to how to prepare my deauville forks for painting or spraying the bottom part is pitted
I would just polish them out, 00 grit emery cloth following by finer and finer polishing paste
Hi mate , I have a confession... I had a 2007 deau , yes it wasn’t quick but I loved it , tbh I miss it .. I have a 1250 rt now all the bells and whistles and I miss the underdog I loved my deau man do you miss yours? Have you ever thought about cashing in and going back?
Hi Pal, believe me I wish I had never got rid of the old girl, she was a cracking bike.
@@paulgriffiths6404 awesome , I cashed in my rt and went back to a deauville
i have the 1999 650 and best touring bike made and never never let me down , its a mid range touring bike not speedy speedy bike and so so comfortable .
Totally agree pal, I really miss mine. It was an amazing bike
Are those speakers under the vents
Sadly not, they are empty. 👍👍👍
You won't be getting Honda reliability with the BMW trust me. I've enjoyed all the Deauville adventures over the years and look forward to the future vids.. Cheers .
Cheers pal
I picked up a 650 last year, I really can't fault it. Commuting, touring home and abroad, fantastic even 2up. Storage is great, but a great all rounder, and my better half is happy behind me aswell. I agree with what u said about the tyres aswell, much happier and comfortable on Michelin's
Cheers Ian. I miss the old girl, she was a great bike. Thanks for watching pal
One of these machines just came up for sale near me with only 7000 miles on it one owner. I’m thinking about it. I’ve had a GL 1800 Goldwing, boring and extremely time consuming to work on. Five hours to change the air filter is with the dealer charges just to change the air filter. I did the job myself and five hours is right. I used to be a motorcycle mechanic at three different shops when I was younger
i’ve also had three Yamaha ventures. My current big bike right now is a royal star venture. My small machine right now is a 2019 Kawasaki Z 400. I’ve had big powerful bikes most of the past 30 years, I had a Motor Guzzi, V 11 sport, the most uncomfortable motorcycle in the entire universe, I had a Moto Guzzi Norge 2 valve 1200 loved it, had it 14 years.. I have three videos on my RUclips channel of my last rides on my Norge. I’m one of my favorite roads before I sold it.
what makes me consider this anti-700 is, I have had two Honda pacific coast motorcycles. I think they’re called the PC 800 in Europe. My first one got totaled with me sitting on it at a stop sign going to work in the morning. I replaced the first one with my second Pacific coast which I commuted on for 24 years… it only had 48 hp. And I was never at a lack of power anywhere. I could feel that it was not going to set an a quarter-mile records, but once you got it moving, it could keep the pace on the twisties with no problem…
The only thing that would keep me from buying this NT 700 would be, heat coming off of the radiator onto the rider..
that heat pouring off of radiators of big horsepower big engine sport touring bikes kept me from buying a Honda ST 1300, that thing was an absolute oven. It kept me from buying the FJR when it came out in 2008 here in the USA, they kept me from buying the concourse Kawasaki, 1400. I heard that thing was an oven in warm weather.
so my question to you is, is there an issue with heat coming through the radiator onto the rider with this machine?
how is your BMW replacement for your 700 working out for you. I’ve had too many dozens of motorcycles over the decades, and I thought that I would buy a BMW, my first BMW about 14 years ago. So I bought a BMW K 1200 LT.
that was the weirdest motorcycle I ever rode. It has that it’s something lever front end that does not compress under braking.. and that machine is very top-heavy. I haven’t dropped a motorcycle since the 1960s. But I dropped that BMW in parking lots two times… just touching those no feel partially electric brakes that are grabby, compounded, by that front end that does not absorb breaking energy, and that top heavy motorcycle with those long Rototiller style handlebars. I couldn’t hold it up, and I am not a skinny little guy. I was at a BMW function and I was talking to three other K 1200 LT owners. I told him I dropped mine.. all three of them started laughing, and said, get used to it, everybody drops them..
then there is the price of parts, and I am a maintenance fanatic, I wanted to change my own brake fluid and clutch fluid that I do on all my machines every year. But the Internet was saying, don’t even attempt it because you will get air in the system and you will have no brakes. You will have to trailer the bike to the dealer to have him do a reset…
so I called my local dealer. I asked how much to change the brake fluid. $750 plus disposal fee plus shop materials plus tax, three month wait for an appointment…
I bought a video and a special razor for to increase the volume of the master cylinder so that it will not suck dry when the key is on and you hit the brakes and crack the bleeder. I did the job in under an hour…
but the reason I sold that BMW. I was on a gravel, covered back road in the country. It was a real small gravel. We call fly ash. It was a slope going downhill about as long as the soccer field with a 90° turn at the bottom. My ABS system detected that I was on gravel, when I touched the brakes to keep my speed down, I had no breaks at all, none. I was trying the pedal., and the front brake lever. Nothing. I was lucky. There was an auto salvage yard at the bottom of the hill. I ran through the grass and into the wire fence surrounding that salvage yard to stop. The only damage I had was a broken front fender. I put the bike up for sale the next day.
I forgot to mention that using the side stand, created plumes of white smoke out the exhaust on the restart if you use the side stand. The dealer said that’s normal.. Final drives were failing across the country. People were having issues with the final drive bearings. The dealer said that is only because people overload their bikes and pull trailers. That turned out to be not true. They were failing on guys that ride solo. One picture of a GS was in a magazine nationwide, the final drive housing had exploded, and the gear lube inside was on fire..
that was my first and last BMW..
that’s why I’m asking you, how has your BMW that you bought to replace the 700 been??
Hi Pal, great history of bikes there. The BMW, well......it lasted 3 years, then I got rid of it. Plagued with faults. I wish I'd never sold my Honda. The Deauville had to be the best bike I've ever owned. Yes, she was a little underpowered two up, but overall, a good workhorse. In the 8 years of ownership, it never once faulted. Nowadays, they are pretty rare, and finding a good one is a challenge. I now own a 2022 Honda NT1100 (DCT). If you have a look at my Romania tour from 2019, the BMW was only 3 months old. By the end of the trip, it was back at the dealership. 👍👍👍
@@paulgriffiths6404
I am not surprised about the issues you had with your BMW. They sure ain’t what they used to be since the early 70s when they introduced the K bikes.. those BMWs have become so complex, you have to marry the dealer ..Just look what happened to actor Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman on their trip around the world on BMWs. One of the bikes brakes quit working, and even with Help talking to the mechanics by phone from Mongolia, they could not get the brakes to work even a little bit, and they shipped that bike back to England by train, and bought a Jawa locally and gave that bike to the cameraman..
there were four BMW dealerships within an hour of my home here in Pittsburgh, PA, USA, now there are zero dealers for BMW
I have an acquaintance that was a BMW mechanic at that one motorcycle shop near me. I stopped him to ask him a question about the brake, bleed procedure. He had a K 1200 LT on his bench, just like the one I had, he had everything from the back of the engine back removed. Now this was in 2010, so the price is a 2010 price. he told me that the slave cylinder leaked on the clutch so the clutch needed replaced. I asked him how much that job will cost the owner. $4500, plus shop materials, plus disposal fee, plus tax.
Did you keep a 'maintenance/repair' schedule ?
It had a full service history when I part x it pal.
What I meant was did you ever have to replace/repair any parts on the bike ?
@@joewood7225 sorry Joe, miss understood, I never had replace anything on the bike, other than usual things like tyres
No probs. mate !
Hi, the bike do 200 miles per tank with ou without the reserve?
Hi pal the Deauville will easily do 200 miles. The Deauville doesn't have a reserve tank. Thanks for watching.
@@paulgriffiths6404 thanks for answer! I'm thinking about buying one.
So 17 liters make 200 miles without problems?
@@Keony83 My Deauville had a 19.5 litre tank. I once got 220 miles to the tank. You will definitely get 200 miles no problem pal.
So that's the "Final Countdown"eh lets hope she goes to a good home,
best of luck with the newbie on the block ;-) ;-)
Liking the lid n jacket ????
Ride Safe Baza ;-)
Chests Baza.
@@paulgriffiths6404 38 on a good day ;-) ;-)
Contimplating a purchase 👍
Wish you had said that 2 and half years ago. BMW has been the worst bike I have ever owned. 😫
@@paulgriffiths6404 I wouldn't touch BMW when it comes to Bikes. Very troublesome from anything I've ever heard
You can now pick up a nice one for £1000.
Fuel pump is a problem ive heard.
The one im looking at has a pump bypass.
Some news in 2023 ? :D
Thanks for watching
Hi mate , hope your enjoying the bmw ?, I have just bought a deauville 700
They are a great bike pal. Safe riding pal
I think he likes it! I think I like it too :-D
We have the same motorcycle and same helmet LOL
@@liuhongqian 🤣🤣👍👍
Very underestimated motorcycle
The Honda will b missed.
My biggest regret about bikes is that I bought a Vstrom 650 instead of a Deauville many years ago. I was infected by Motorcycle news-type snobbery about trendy bikes and their dim-witted "only fast or cool bikes are valid". Silly me. I tested the Deauville and it was amazingly comfortable, capable, reliable, as fast as I ever needed but I looked over it in favour of the Vstrom which was top heavy, had a hideously uncomfortable seat, a lousy, useless screen and while a pleasure to ride was not a pleasure to own. Unfortunately, knee-down bike snobbery relegated the Deauville to the dustbin of uncool, which is most unfair. It was, and is, an outstandingly well made bike and on EU roads is as fast as anyone could wish, unless you are a nutter with a death wish.
Cheers Pal, I agree, the deauville is a brilliant tourer and a mile eater. thanks for watching
Also recommendd for smal person's? Im 1,64m big
Jurgen Moyaert
Im 1.75m and I fit well
Ive a lovelly little kawasaki gpz500s, and I find thats quick enough for me these days. Im 55 next year and been riding since i was 16. Always had a motorbike. I now ride to work as i can't stand driving at all.
Ive a Honda vfr800x crossrunner 2012 62 which ive been to Normandy on this year. Did 1000 in 4 days. Been to Belgium 5 times on various bikes from a Aprilia Mille RSV, Z1000, Triumph 675 and a ZXR900. But the crossrunner is really heavy, and i have decided to tour the UK from now on.
Im touring wales next year and have decided to look at 700 Dvelille thingy next week.
Ive had around 60 odd bikes in my time so ill ride anything for a laugh. No bikes or cars impress me now.
You've had a good selection of bikes over the years, pal. Some good ones there. The Deauville a good all rounder 👍👍👍👍
I'll miss the lil thing in my mirrors!
I assume your talking about the bike and not me. Hahaha
@@paulgriffiths6404 Any response I might make to this is gonna sound so wrong. 😂😂😂😂
@@rayjones4115 Oh God yes
@@paulgriffiths6404 Any response I might make to this is gonna sound so wrong. 😂😂😂😂
all i can say is buy a deauville 700 for touring on tarmac !!!!!!!!!!!! the best comfy bike i have ever had and just plods along at 75 or 80 miles ph all day long .
Cheers pal 👍
Sell the Honda for a BMW? surly this must have been a massive mistake?
@@mrmoon1482 it was, I'm now back with Honda 👍👍
I'm looking at a used one. I got knocked off to.
Sorry to hear that Robert. Hope your ok pal? The Deauville is a great commute and a fantastic tourer. Thanks for watching 👍👍👍
Pretty much every review says great bike.
Pretty much every reviewer days they are selling one and buying something different 😂
Cheers pal 👍 thanks for watching