It would be better if you built the "perpetual" things exactly like they do it in the fake videos (a car alternator and electrical motor) and then prove that it doesn't work by trying to "start" the process, not by using two identical motors.
Magnet energy nonsense? Really? So your saying a magnet doesn't have stored energy?You might want to rethink that statement. As magnetics isthe inverse of electricty. It's just how your able to harness it. So if you think your an expert on brushless motors. Then you will know that positioning is everything. That inorder to turn a motor requires them to be at then right place at the right time. That you can also use electricity to make a temporary magnet While I may agree with you that they should try to use the most efficient motors While I cannot say if some or none of these actually work. I do know of ones that do just from simple logic how the other ones work. For example. lets just say you have a baaic electric motor that also has a stator on the end of it. Also lets say the motor has earth magnets on the rotor and has electron magnets positioned all around the motor. That the electro magnets are connected to relays and directly connected to it stator/ generator on the motor. So if you were to spin the motor faster it will create more energy. But when you want to pull a load from the stator generator its magnetism will increase making it harder to turn. okay thats simple So lets say those stators are connected to capacitors that go to relays and to the electromagnets around the motor. So if you just spin it by hand there is almost no load or resistance, but will charge those capacitors fairly easy while you turn it, to store temporarily . bur regardless of capacitors and relays. lets just say the motor doesnt have magnets inside it yet that your just spinng the motor by hand and the stator is energizing the coils . Relatively easy as there is no load.Then you make it so that the other end i drags along then shaft and only energizes and magnetizes at it final push (repelling locations. I you spim it by hand it still just as easy to turn. so putting magnets back on the motor and you spin it the motor is just as easy. As the electrmagnets start to energize at its push location. meang it will want to push the motor. that it pushes and increases the speed. still almost no resistance same amount jusy to turn by hand but now the as it only energized during push location it starts to push it making it easier to turn by hand and as it turns faster it gives more power making magmnets stronnger pushing harder and again making it faster more power making magnets stronger that push harder then go faster more power >stonger>> faster> more power> stronger> faster. So now by adding MOSFET relays you reduce the friction and add capacitors that collect and storen the excess energy when not acitivated that ot uses when it does and you have a magnet motor. Simple ideaa. So now back to these ones i. have noticed the ones that look legit usally have different size motor/generators. That if the motor is smaller the the generator has a larger pulley. which makes it eaiser for the motor to turn the for the power it recives. That I havent seen any working models that have two same size motors and pulleys that are working. Which may be because of to inefficiency it doesnt produce enough eneegy to spi something that itself requires same effort to spin and thats what I belive you haven't factored into to equation is the gearing of the pulleys to make up for those inefficiencies. So you can just go blah, blah, blah without any actual testing of your own to validate your rambling.
No No No ! Youve done a good job of saying why is SHOULDN'T work, but then there's the evidence of my own eyes. In one vids they stripped every component down to demo there were no batteries. So tell me, never mind the maths and laws, where's the slight of hand in that video ? Please point to it.
Version 1.0... "We use special magnets and can't tell you the specific details right now which means if you try to build it yourself, it probably wont work..." Version 2.0... "We use a special alloy of aluminium and silver and we can't tell you the specific details right now which means if you try to build it yourself, it probably wont work..." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If they are in a country with a relatively low currency exchange rate, making a convincing fake video that generates a lot of views could very well provide income that far exceeds a typical wage. There will always be people willing to sell snake oil, just as there will always be people willing to buy it.
You are 100% in your "science". You are missing the point that a rotating magnetic filed (N, S, N, S, N, S, and so on) around a coil of copper wired does create current. This experiment was first done by Nikola Tesla, it''s nothing new.
Right... the energy comes from whatever is pushing the magnet. You can't push the magnet with the energy produced by the magnet being pushed... what I want to know from the free energy types is an explanation of where the energy comes from, not just "build this device and it will spin forever because... well, it's a secret, big oil is watching me"
@@CJCruiser it’s simple I’ve tried it and it does work it’s not fake how do you think a dynamo works in a car! It charges the battery so you put it to another motor it will power it simple!
@@seanseverythingandanything6440 you have never used the lever, it is something that has been used to amplify or increase the main force. for example if you want to move a heavy object. if you enter the mechanical field if 2 keys have the same circumference a short handle and a long handle. the long handle has more possibility to do the job faster
@@seanseverythingandanything6440 The combustion of fuel provides the energy to turn the dynamo. It does not create any power, only converts mechanical energy from the engine into electricity at about 80% efficiency. It can never make enough power to spin itself no matter what motor you attach to it.
I would like to add a comment regarding the magnets, by the looks of their assembly they are trying to create a monopole magnet when they are placing the magnets north to north and south to south. I have attempted to construct a device similar to the ones in the video except on a smaller scale, first, try to assemble magnets with the same poles facing each other, It can be done but with a lot of blood sweat, and even some tears. When the glue dried I found something very interesting and at first unexpected. the next day I started assembling the device and I found that all of the magnets were almost no longer magnets in other words most of the magnetic flux was gone, disappeared. orientating the magnets in opposing directions caused a canceling effect of the magnetic flux. Thanks for allowing my to cents worth, this day and age and what is going on these days I wish this could be true but it's not. Let us take care of the greed and allow people the dignity of life and get rid of the corruption that is our governments and leaders. every decision must be put to a vote every outcome is absolutely transparent and free of charge for any person to review..
‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’ Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
@@pstonard You right Peter, so Democratically chosen Governments are never just, or impartial, because people elect the leader often based on his charisma, like that comedian who now runs Ukraine, wanted to join NATO and upset Russians, but a sensible Dictator would not have let this happen that caused so much devastation to both sides, all the way that we are now facing true Nuclear crises, thats because people choose leaders not on their merit and experience , as an example both UK PM and Chancellor been nominated by party members, and look what happened to our Pound!
Nice work, well put. I think there stupid not corrupt. They been brainwashed to believe wat quality & how to run a world maintain power etc etc..things since birth most of them. Just like us. Corruption is a small part, lacking imagination & sense is a major part of the problem. They put stupid ppl in charge to maintain sosociety & spastiCITY! Democracy is not a good thing if the ppl are all retards & have no concept of reality. Wat you want & wat you need are not always compatable. If you don't think or imagine, dream or see things in different lights then you fight for wat you know not wat could be.
This example reminds me of a guy who was playing with an alternator and convinced himself he was making a bit over a kilowatt (About 1.5 kilowatts) from around 20-30 watts of input. How? He stuck a roughly 2HP motor on the alternator to drive it, then plugged in a roughly 2 amp at 12V field current. In his mind, he was "putting in" 24 watts of power into his machine (12V x 2 amps of field current). The fact that he was measuring around 1500 watts of output from 2HP of mechanical power should have clued him in, but it didn't.
A simpler way to fake the video is just to run power up through the underside, into the power strip. No need to gut the parts, just spin the generator with the motor, plugged in. Mains power can be fed in through table legs, holes in the table or any other route, out of sight of the camera..
I get your explanation and others as well. Instead of talking about it, build one to prove your explanations. Many people are skeptics and I'm one but he did show what he did...
Refusing to acknowledge basic physics principles so that you can continue believing conspiracy theories isn't being a skeptic. It's being wilfully ignorant.
Someone said "There is sucker born every minute". However - judging by the responses of some people - I propose a motion to change this saying to: "There is a sucker born every 0.1 of a second". This would reflect better the IQ of an average RUclipsr.
@@josinitro948 hey man are you on my side? Do you really wanna know how to make it work? I know the secret to making it work. This is not a joke. If you are on my side, and you wanna know how to make one, just holler back and I will tell you how to EASILY make one that works.
We have a model bag with the Faller Car System on it, but have replaced the batteries with 'supercapacitors', so the charging times of hours are reduced to a maximum of 90 seconds. Then these are 80/85% loaded and that is sufficient, because there they drive for about fifteen minutes at maximum, but the lap time varies from 1 to 3 minutes, some routes are longer and therefore more 'charging stations' and we do this through 'the copper mirrors on both sides'. These supercapacitors can therefore also be used very easily, we use 3.8 Volt 50 Farad. If you want to use one of 50 Volt 500 Farad then they are about 6 Cm long & 3 Cm flat, they have a charge & higher discharge current than batteries can ever have. These will be used in this type of FAKE power generation. I challenge these by putting a 5KW old analog movie lamp on it, one of 5KW, to date no one has accepted this challenge and thus fake labeled by me.
I enjoyed your video. Being a generator mechanic you should know you can't explain this to some people like the guy who said I saw it with my own eyes, so he's never been to a magic show. You can't trust your eyes or ears. Keep up the good work
I watched that rebuttal video yesterday. Did you happen to notice in that video, that the motor did not run as smooth as it did in the first one? It paused very momentarily on a regular basis, almost like a jerk. I had to rewatch certain segments to make sure I wasn't imagining it, or it wasn't an effect of lighting or something.
Third mistake . . yes it is more efficient to use a 3 phase motor if you are transfering the total power from generator to motor and vice versa but they are using only 1 phase motor and they have given the alternator a first spin from the wire which created enough torque to generate an electrical current to run the motor which has a bigger pulley than the alternator . . so there's nothing fake in this
even the battery is old-fashioned, which is already replaced by the 'supercapacitor', fully charged in 2 minutes (80/85%) and can handle very large discharge currents, more than the 18650 battery.
@@VrumsAdventures Je moest eens weten hoeveel echte capaciteit ze in werkelijkheid hebben. zie onder andere > Reload station supercondensator uitgeruste faller car systeem ruclips.net/video/XG2DhcBAFdg/видео.html oplaadtijd 1 minuut, rij tijd ruim 10 minuten, moet je eens met Li-on accu's doen qua opladen, dan ben je UREN bezig met opladen, wat dat betreft heb JIJ nog heel wat bij te leren, energie dummie.
@@oldwizzy the energy (in Joules) in a capacitor is the half the capacitance times the voltage squared. Let's take a standard 100F supercap which roughly has the same volume as an 18650 cell (18 mm diameter and 65 mm length for the 18650 Li-Ion and 22 mm diameter and 47 mm length for the supercap). At 3.7V the energy in a standard 3Ah Li Ion cell is 11.1Wh. The supercap is a 2.7V rated one, so a 100F one can hold 364.5J of energy... that's a little bit over 0.1Wh, 111 times less than a similarly sized 18650 cell on average. And this is a high end supercap. Yes there are advantages to SuperCaps, but energy density is not (yet) one of them... and there are some new supercaps that are hibrids between a supercap and a li-ion battery, those are even more niche and still at 10x the energy density are an order of magnitude less dense than li-ion batteries.
The dual motor design scam is very popular these days since the scam is even easier to pull off as battery technology has gotten smaller and more efficient compared to the 2010 days, so you can stuff a battery powerful enough inside one motor to drive the other pretty easily.
yea, I"m surprised so many people fall for it. At least back in the 2010s and 2000s the crazy people using this technology would claim over unity or energy created out of thin air. That video claim 10kw of energy and doesn't even attempt to explain why it creates more energy than the alternator or motor.
To me the guy modified the car alternator with nyodeniom magnet as shown in his video and will all no that alternator has three face and the other motor is a (synchronous motor) an this motor has a different mode of operation which Is different from other motor.the futures of the synchronous motor are 1. The motor is not self started 2. When the motor is been synchronize it lock and the motor move the with constant speed of the prime mover 3. The motor is not dependent on other prime mover when on load 4. The motor will not change in speed on load or not on load after it has been synchronize 5. The speed is constant with prime mover even if on load Now the second point is that the guy also modified the Ac synchronous motor with nyodeniom magnet which produces low rpm with high frequency and now put the output of the motor to a socket with he use to power the instrument Note let me give u the breakdown 1. He use the alternator to power the synchronous motor 2. He use the synchronous motor to power household He did not show where he modified the synchronous motor he used two power not one One power from the alternator and the other power from the synchronous motor
There actually is a working 'free-energy' machine. I've seen it, tested it, etc.. There is no such thing as creating energy from nothing; that is true. But there is a way to create energy from SOMETHING. You just need the right 'SOMETHING.' It works!
Plutonium maybe? It’s what they use on the mars rovers, free energy!!! (Of course, radioactivity is just a kind of very slow burning fuel, it doesn’t last forever)
@@CJCruiser thats not free energy its literally the energy emintating from the plutonium thats what radiation is, its a form of energy that the element just cannot contain and therefore it leaks out but will eventually stop, and you cant just harness the pure energy coming from the plutonium you have to get it through other means like putting it in water so the water will heat and boil and turn to steam and then turn a turbine which produces energy
@@Fisheiyy sorry, I meant for my exclamation marks to indicate sarcasm, I know what radioactivity is, I just can't for the life of me figure out what other people here think free energy is.
I really appreciate you for the information. As far as my knowledge of the laws of Physics is concerned what they are doing is fake. I left school 35 years ago but I think no new theory has been developed that violates the basic laws of Physics.
One thing the fake videos forget is "Windage". Alternators and Generators require a fan to keep them cool so there goes some energy straight off the bat.
"There goes some energy straight off the bat." Never mind that the rest of the energy was freely created, losing a small amount of power for a cooling fan is an L = Shill for energy companies or internet dumbass?
@@duyvuitton6019 I really hope you are an internet troll or a Gen Z'er who believes everything they see on the web (Yay tide pods!) and don't honestly believe you can get more than what you put in. If you didn't get what I was meaning in my comment, I was hinting to the fact that there are losses that none of these free energy machines take into consideration. It's not just windage, there are many things that stops any of these devices from actually functioning in the real world like energy being wasted through the wires heating up, friction from the bearings, belts and brushes which creates heat, the drag of on the rotating masses going through the magnetic field, etc, etc, etc. How about some basic math, we will ignore losses for the moment. In this situation a 1000w motor can drive a 1000w alternator by itself, now say I wanted to put a 600w load on it. What happens? The speed of the the motor would drop until it stops because there is not enough energy to supply the motor and the load. So what if you put a bigger alternator on it? Lets say 1600w. Well you will still only have 1000w of energy since the motor can only output 1000w, so when you put that 600w load on it, it will stop that motor in the same way due to not enough energy being in the system to keep that motor spinning. As for being a shill for the energy companies, well I'd be the worst spokesman for them, as I'm working on converting my caravan to solar so I can go off grid and I'm helping a mate of mine build a gasifier and biogas generation system so we can make human waste into burnable gas and compost, while he builds me a waste oil burner. The fact we don't all have solar on the roofs of our houses so we'd have abundant free energy honestly gets at me. If you want free power there is solar, hydro, wind, tidal and thermal, these will produce power passively, each one has there downsides but at least they actually work.
@@newdawn8477 So you're saying it does work to produce energy but mad because you're not achieving full efficiency... you clearly missing the point that perpetual creation of energy w/out reliance of the power grid is a win. You need more than 600w of power? Here's an idea, use more powerful hardware than what they showed...
@@duyvuitton6019 It went right over your head didn't, everything I wrote was proving it could not work and will not work. I even gave you the best outcome by not factoring in LOSSES. Go back to school and learn the law of conservation of energy or haven't you got that far? Even if you had a 15000w motor and a 15000w alternator with ZERO losses, it still wouldn't work. Any load will deplete the system of energy. Think about it and I mean think about it. Ever noticed most of the videos come out of the middle east? Could it be they think the west is stupid and by posting videos like that they know someone around the world will waste their time trying to build it... Thinking about it you should put your money where you mouth is and build one and have it running a 3kw load (this should be easy for you), video it running and then dissemble it with no cuts and post the link here, I WILL watch your attempt. All of the parts can be brought off of ebay and ali. Just prove me wrong by doing that.
But it is working :-). Motor: Input voltage (system voltage) - 220 V Rated voltage - 230 V Rated rpm - 1500 rpm Input current - 230 V →21.8 A (measured value) 220 V → = 20.85 A Input current = 20.85 A Input power → P =VI cos ɵ P = 3669.6 W Motor input = 3.7 kW Generator, Output voltage - 250 V Rated voltage - 300 Rated rpm - 1500 rpm Output voltage - 300 V→ 5 kW Output voltage − 250 V → = 4166.67 W = 4.167 kW Alternator / Generator output = 4.167 kW Shaft rpm = 750 rpm
If you spin a motor with your hand, it produces an electromotive force. You essentially make it a generator. When the motor spins from an applied voltage, this still happens. Thus, a voltage that opposes the voltage applied to the motor is induced. This limits the current through the motor. So, the unloaded RPM of the motor may be 1500 RPM, but when you attach the generator as a load, the motor will slow. When the motor slows, the induced voltage decreases, just like spinning a generator more slowly produces less voltage. This actually increases the current, and thus the power consumption of the motor. So, if the motor spins at 750 RPM, it may consume twice the power or more. Now the generator produces 4kW, and the motor needs 7kW to run at that RPM, and it slows. This cycle continues until the system stops.
Can you make the highest efficiency set up? With the coupler and 3 phase motor etc. I know it wont work because of power loss and other reasons. But you already made a small version of what they made which was all the worst decisions. Show us one with all the best decisions
The best decision in any experiment is to apply knowledge to predict the outcome. Then verify it by experiment. Once in a while an experiment does something completely unexpected and that is called a discovery. The supporters of "Free Energy" believe the presenters have an experiment with unexplained out come, that defies the theory, and becomes their secret discovery. At that point it is rational and expected by the scientific and engineering community to publish the results and allow Peer review. None of these Free Energy contraptions have been published (beyond FAKE click bait) or subjected for third-party peer review. Only a soft head will cling to the claims made that these are real over unity contraptions.
@@dirklanduyt Wrong! Motor rotation can easily be reversed by reconfiguration of the wires. In this case the swapping of any two phases of the three. Red to Yellow instead of Red to Red and Yellow to Yellow. Machines that use three-phase motors typically have a switch to make this change. Running a lathe "backwards" for example.
Your request is that we "prove a negative"? That's impossible! If you did try to replicate what you have seen in the FAKE videos, and then you complain, the author and presenters of the FAKE videos can simply say "you did it wrong", or "you don't have the right parts", or they left something out "to keep it secret", or "Big Oil (or the government) will come after you". Any story to keep you guessing that the Free-energy scheme is real. As P.T.Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute" and he was spot on!
The funniest part is that the channel that you showed their perpetual energy gizmo would be revealed if they reached 100 million views otherwise they would not reveal the last steps on how to do it , plus without their last part of the how to do it it would be impossible for someone to achieve perpetual energy . The channel knows it will never reach 100 million views .
It is very magnanimous of him to put his perpetual energy machine on you tube rather than create a company to build the product that would transform humanity and make him the richest man in the world.
1. I'm with you when you say that there should be a reduction in speed of the motors when a load is added. 2. I wouldn't be so quick to call it fake if I haven't tried the experiment myself and actually built it exactly... 3. You give your theory of how fake that video was without having built the contraption you conceived of in your mind for us to see. 4. You title your video demonstrably exaggerated as the video you're criticizing never even hinted at "perpetual" or "infinite" 5. The video... also did not say that the magnets make more power than... But most of us who watch these things know that you change the nature of the device and it can produce more power when you've done as was described... 4. The people of that video you're debunking/criticising have a much much better command of English than you do so I won't blame you if you misunderstood what they were articulating. I will try to build it because there is some logic in it taking into consideration that the start-run capacitor in the induction motor might have something to do with what seems to be a lack of power loss when a load is added. And to be fair, the guys in that video didn't mention the start-run capacitor, but those induction motors need them and was probably connected.
I'm with you 💯% and I'll try it. I don't know why he forgot all induction dynamos produce DC energy which all rotors in any generator produce DC which produce electromagnetic in it (N/S). When the electromagnetic force is produced in the rotor and rotate around either copper or aluminum coil the AC must be generated. Winds up, neodymium magnets is used in a rotor to replace the electromagnetic. So the magnetic field is produced, nothing could stop the generating of AC when the rotor is rotating. He forgot that it's a low rpm alternator, it doesn't required 2800-3600 rpm. A simple experiment (Put the wires of your induction motor in your mouth and rotate it's rotor, you will fell the charge in your mouth) the highere the speed the highere of the the charge and vice versa. It's not face.
Your points of criticism e.g. No 4 tell us you just don't understand the first thing about electric motors or physics. The fundamental understanding of anyone who does, is that *_by definition_* if you create a setup where a generator powers a motor that drives that generator _you have created a perpetual motion machine._ Also your patronising second point no 4 (that should have been labelled 6 I presume) indicates that you think a foreign accent means lack of "command" of English. I think he spoke well and articulately and if you can't hear past the accent then shame on you. Also, just by the way: the original video that you refer to is all narrated in text. How does that demonstrate a "better command of English"? If they put all this video's spoken information into closed captions would that impress you more?
@Peter Türr Yeah either Google translate is having a meltdown or you just wrote 199 words of meaningless technobabble. I'll leave it up to the student to work out which "as an exercise." Sure, scientists don't know what they are talking about because they only work in theory. Of course, they haven't ever reproduced the experiment. Because that's exactly how science works, right? Yaaaah.
I have built this 2 weeks ago. And guess what. It works! It damn works!. I had to find something because electricity cost rise 50% here in the UK. Now I can power all my electric radiators using this sweet 'engine' and show the middle finger to greedy electricity and gas suppliers!. And you... Instead of talking you should actually build one to see it for your own eyes.
And also if the efficiency would be a 100% than the motor would spin up to infinity, and the voltage wouldn't be regulated either. Right? 🤔 Edit: Free energy does exist. You just need an extension cord and a good neighbour.
But the motor cannot consume more energy that it’s maximum allowed power, thus keeping the alternator rotating at a constant speed, not buying this idea of this free energy thing, but just saying
@StringerNews1 what's driving the alternator is the motor, no regulation on the alternator, means free energy to be consumed by other appliances, knowing that the motor will not rotate the alternator to a dangerous frequency, because the motor does have voltage regulation, it is possible that the fact that the alternator has no voltage regulation and because of the strong magnets, the alternator is able to produce higher voltages
@StringerNews1 i agree, i don’t believe in this free energy BS, most importantly the design is supposed to be simple and reproducible, but they are saying they will share the blue prints of the design, i guess the motor is consuming a hidden ac power from a hidden battery
@@freecodyx I don't know about more energy being put out than put in (he may have a secret to that that he's afraid to reveal to the public because of what happened to Tesla and others for trying to do the same), BUT it makes sense to me that if you design/tweak a motor to have the same amount of friction and level of efficiency when rotating as the alternator connected to it (with the help of the magic of strong coil + powerful magnets), the power assigned and transferred to the motor from the alternator would be the same amount of power returned to the alternator by the motor, hence an infinitely, autonomously running, free energy machine (after you give it the initial starting energy or 'jump start'). Where the hell is the doubt in that??
It's not perpetual but it is improved input and out output generation efficiency. Its like traveling 100 kilometres in a v12 car and travelling the same distance in a 4 cylinder car. You will both cover the same distance but with different energy requirements. It's all about improving the way you conserve all the energy being lost. For example, Tesla can, if it wanted capture the energy being lost through the motion of the 4 wheels on the car by installing magic fields around each wheel. How would you classify the energy being recycled in this process? Would you call it non-consequential? Think before you criticise.
what makes me upset more than random people getting fame with free energy videos are the ones who let these people have presentations in universities and conferences showing off their fake devices and talking nonsense about how they work
@@brianellisiscool5875 look for "Muammer Yildiz" on youtube or google, they let him have a presentation at the Delft Technical University in the Netherlands, showing off his fake free energy magnet motor
Combine self running generators and power walls in homes and businesses, to have seemingly endless clean energy everywhere all the time. Even if the the output is lower, if it's continuous, you'd still build up ALOT of energy in your power walls, to use for everything.
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on the back of the alternator is a voltage regulator and bridge rectifiers which turns the a/c power that the alternator creates, is turned into d/c with the rectifiers and the vokltage is usually 14 vdc. take them out and use the wires from the windings you are working with a/c power..
Then give us a demonstration that it does not work. I have watched loads of videos from companies experimenting with the technology with great success. even Adam savage from mythbusters has had his hand at it, and it worked.. Please prove everyone wrong and give us a live demonstration. Thank you kind sir
All of you are idiots thinking free energy isn't possible. Nikola Tesla created free energy from the Earth's magnetic field, but the powers at be stopped him, of course. People like you stopped him.
It's funny to me how they couple two machines together in their videos and pretend like noone ever thought of that. If you walk into a laboratory for electrical machines you can find this kind of setup everywhere. One machine acts as load on a machine that you are trying to make measurements on. It's an efficient way to test machines because you only need to supply the energy for all of the losses in the setup. But of course you can't gain energy this way. Awesome video!
@@ELECTRONOOBS ah yes. Making influencing video just to lower people's faith on free energy machines. There's no such thing as 100% efficient machines as there's always losses. However, they can be overcame by energy creation aka overunity machines. Free energy machines are a DISTRACTION towards overunity machines which naturally have greater than 100% efficiency. It's either underunity or overunity. No such thing as unity. Ironically, overunity allows FTL. It's either under light or over light. Funny how truths are stranger than fictions. All you ever are, is an electronic engineer. You never really understood magnetism nor how it TRULY functions. Hint: They are REAL unlike what you are brainwashed with.
Why would you make this video debunking something if there wasn't something worth debunking! So what if people believe in it! Let them fail! Try all you want you will lose people are waking god is here
@@ELECTRONOOBS I believe you when you say it’s fake kinda makes sense. I’m no expert but I do have a question. If you had a batter, alternator and motor and made enough power to keep battery charged while it runs the motor wouldn’t it be possible to keep battery charged from motor and runs small appliance like charge a phone
Thank you for your presentation, and it is a verry good one. the major problem is that these con-artist are in-fact blurring the concepts of free energy with perpetual motion. the original concept of free energy was to harness the natural flow to do domestic work. these systems are considered free because the resulting work exceeds the cost of construction and maintenance of the infrastructure. The ecological consequences of free energy have been generally considered as inconsequential in these equations, many times to our detriment. perpetual motion, the action of a device that, once set in motion, would continue in motion forever, with no additional energy required to maintain it. This type of device would require such a fine balance of forces that it could only maintain its self any attempt to draw off of it would shut it down.
Now i know.. thanks to you master.... You nailed it... This video deserves millions of views... I hope they could see this before they do thier own experiments.... Thanks a lot for the information .... Loud and clear from the Philippines
What really frustrates me is that a lot of people are desperate to try what works but THOSE that knows are not saying what will work, if you know please tell the people what will work and what’s needed.
That's exactly what's happening. The idiots and illuminati folks are saying these things don't work, while the revolutionary minds like Tesla know that it works and just haven't revealed to everyone all the pieces. And NO, I'm not talking about batteries, illuminati folk. ;)
If you can't figure it out using math then you're kinda not gonna understand it. All of those old sayings were based on old technologies and what everyone knew.
@@drienkm i meant anything that is put together in this way/method, is there any that works?, but never mind as i got the answer that there is none/doesn’t exist that works being put together like this.👍
Walter, don’t waste your time, resources or money on these motor - generator projects. It’s simply impossible for them to work. The only free energy come from solar, wind, hydroelectric or nuclear power and all of those are expensive to implement. Also don’t try the ones that involves spark plugs, coils of wire and magnets they are all fake also. All these projects are for the authors to make money off of RUclips views.
Basically modifying an alternator by use of permanent magnets only made the alternator a magneto. Even if he didn't do that, an alternator rated at 12 V at 100 amps could only put out between 1300 -1500 watts and it would require over two hp. to spin that alternator at full load since the alt and engine turning it are less than 100% efficient. It is really quite amazing that there are people who think you can have a generator or an alternator putting out more power than the engine driving it. Are those people smoking fruit-loops or something, LSD maybe? and instead of seeing flowers and birds they see all kinds of power being made with alternators putting out much more than the speed and torque required to spin them under full load? Amps are the electrical equivalent of torque, the more torque you pull from a motor, the more amps it will pull from whatever source is feeding it. The more current you pull from a generator or alternator the more torque will be required from the engine driving said gen or alternator. it is not freakin' rocket science. About the best anyone here can do is to go to ebay and spend a few $$. you really want to know about science. buy an old telephone magneto from a fone like granny had in bugtussle Tenn. hook it up to a lamp like 7.5 watts. You'd find you can crank it all day with NO LOAD on it. but put a load on it. That 7 anna half watts lamp. now you have to put some muscle into this. WHY? you ask.All those turns of wire on the armature with current flowing thru them, made the armature a strong magnet and its N. pole is wanting to stay close to the S.pole of the field magnets large u shaped magnets and the armature's S.pole wants to stay as close as possible to the field's N.pole. No it is not rocket science but it should give you a very good idea as to why you can't go out and buy a whole bunch of motors an generators, put them all together and think you're gonna be Mr. Whiz kid doing something impossible maybe making the 6:o'clock news and the whole world of science real facts an figures takes a big dump because you want to pretty much get a lot of something and not putting much into it. good luck with that.
@@scamper_van8470 Speak English will you? What don't exist? messed up alternators? Probably but nowhere as bad as this mess. a magneto was made from an alternator as ur using permanent magnets to supply the field whereas the alternator had a wound field, to be fed from the battery.
@@raymondgarafano8604 It makes sense to me that if you design/tweak an engine to have the same amount of friction when rotating as the alternator connected to it, the power assigned and transferred to the other device from the alternator would be the same amount of power returned to the alternator by the other rotating device, hence an infinitely, autonomously running, free energy machine (after you give it the initial starting energy). Where the hell is the doubt in that??
@@beaueads4170 So Beau Eads, it appears you have NO idea that when you pull current from an alternator a certain amount of torque is required? And that taking torque from a motor causes it to draw amps. It is not going to happen engineers much smarter than both of us have been wrkg on this for decades and still it is not possible, nor do I say it ever will be. The fact it is NOT done now means it CAN NOT BE done. You will have electrical losses and magnetic iron loss in both the motor and alternator/generator. Even a transformer with NO moving parts, at best is still not 100% efficient, like around 95% which is pretty good but how come not 100% as there are no moving parts? magnetic leakage or flux not going exactly where it supposed to, heat, yup another type of energy...
@@raymondgarafano8604 I'm not a physicist, but there's GOT to be a way to tweak the parts and connections to make this system work. Try to come up with it yourself! I firmly believe, if it's not already possible (and just secreted technology), then it WILL be possible any day now, as soon as someone gets off the grid and has an epiphany and eureka moment like Tesla and Einstein had. Maybe this next person will be you or me. :) I don't believe you need to know physics and electromagnetism inside and out to experiment with stuff and discover something ingenious. Let's all be OPTIMISTIC and EXPLORATIVE!
And that patents not only expire, but they don't keep ANYBODY from building something, just from profiting off it. The "patent" argument is a favorite of people who claim impossible tech.
@@SiriusJMoonlight even if this miraculous 'patent' did exist do the crazys honestly believe countries like china and india plus any developing one would pay any attention to it if this was actually possible?
The "free energy" video are a complete Joke no doubt. That one in particular I also watched it with interest and also looked at some comment ... hilarious.
@@ELECTRONOOBS Oh yes ...it's hilarious and that makes me think why almost all comments "buy" into the "free energy" idiocy. i wonder also if someone is not erasing the other rational and knowlegable comments alerting for the scam.
As retired electronician engeneer I entirely agree with your true exact explanations, Perpetual motion is a dream and still a dream. actually impossible to realise with the technology we know. (maybe with new technologies it will become more impossoble..?) So if unity machines are a dream, over unity ones are a phantasm... Great video you did.
@@martinrock289 "An electronician engeneer should have better arguments." - Clearly he didn't understand the kit he was working on, or at least the physical principles they were based on.
The best technology Science Fiction can dream up will still not be able to create free energy out of thin air, which is what a PMM seeks to do. _Just to keep the closed system running would require energy input to overcome friction and windage losses._ Being able to draw off further power to dun your electric drill? Sure, just plug in Tony Stark's personal nuclear reactor and off you go.
@@christopherbedford9897 I think that if people upload videos from different parts of the world, especially from poor areas, I don't believe that they are all frauds and ignorant, that the person in question is the only one who is right. Rather, it will be that this is a counter-propaganda of those in the world who do not want to lose a large profit by selling electricity to citizens.
Two magnets of the same will push against each other. That is why they are adding magnet to the coil. The magnets on the coil push against the magnets on the housing to create rotation. When a series of magnet are added, it is possible for a perpetual spin.
We don't need your explanation. It's not enough. What you can do now is build one, yourself, according to the specifications of the "fake video" you're commenting against, for us to find out if it's really fake or not. Your words or "explanation" are definitely NOT ENOUGH. There should be a real demonstration, for us to find out if it really works or not. Electric bills are soaring higher and higher these days. We all need something like that kind of generator if ever that thing really works. We will wait for your real demo.
Everything you explained made sense. But the problem solver in me wants to try to find a way to make it work. :-) I know that sounds funny, but that is just how I am wired. The first thing I started thinking about was to take your solution of connecting the shafts of the generator and the motor, however I would add a heavy duty flywheel in the middle. My thought was that the flywheel would help the motor turn the more powerful generator while keeping the power consumption down. At least that is my thought. So what do you think the Flywheel would add to the equation?
it's impossible without breaking the laws of physics themselves, you'd a material with literally 0 friction and keep the thing contained in a perfect vaccum and even then the energy inside is just part of a cycle, no new energy would be able to come out
@@romanpackham8471 But did they give us all the info at school? If yes, a flying saucer or ufo can not fly or stay stationary because there are no wings or rotors and there is no sound. Same with the incredible speed they can reach and the instantaneous disappearing or movement from one place to another 10 kilometers away. Not possible with the laws of physics as we know them. Yet these phenomena have been seen and are documented.
@@martinuso7446 ufos, unlike that nonsense, actually have science to back that up it's called the alcubierre warp drive and it basically involves compressing spacetime itself infront of you and expanding it behind you which causes spacetime to push you along it's sci-fi and needs tons of research before it can be made but it's actually got a chance of happening oh and the chance of those sightings actually being possible are either illusions or hoaxes, a warp drive would have a very distinctive mark with it visibly lensing the light around it as for the lack of sound, noise cancelling headphones use inverted frequencies to cover up the external noise so just use those if you want some quiet in atmosphere
I made free energy yesterday and proved it. All you have to do is create resonance oscillator and measure it, then when you connect it to a good earth ground, it "will" begin to produce more power than without the ground. Many people are successfully producing many forms of free energy using large magnets, large gauge wire, high voltage and high frequency. It works in other areas of nature as well like refrigeration systems, sound, etc.. a microwave oven and nuclear bomb also uses free energy.
Excellent video! I like that you mentioned the reaction to the Lorenzt force. I think many people hear "moving a magnet near a coil creates a current" and think "Oh! well then just put magnets on anything that moves anyway and presto! Free energy!". Anyone who has shorted a DC motor and tried to spin it should get the right idea pretty quick:)
@@dominicgeorge7299 I looked them up. Both seem to live mainly on youtube. I did not find any links between these people and peer reviewed research or anything that actually challenges established physics. In the "2018 study" (actually just another yt video) the guy shows some basic textbook formulas and says they were "found on youtube"! This is glaring evidence of lack of education, and is pretty lethal in terms of credibility. Instead of presenting operating principles and relationship to known fundamentals, the "study" focused on just listing specific minutia and specifications of the motor and controller, in exhaustive detail. This is typical of analysis by uneducated people, or those who don't understand fundamentals. For example, the "study" focused on isolated voltage or current readings to support claims of over-unity, without discussing the thermodynamically meaningful quantities of power and energy that must be central in showing that you have created an over-unity device. Full disclosure, I spent about 10 minutes scanning his 2 hr slideshow.
@@drienkm what you see being Don is not theory it's hands on real why would you look for a theory, when it's being done and explained in your face, check iconium technology again hear what is being said the principles is explained in detail, now follow the instructions yourself, also gerad morin has brought engineers at his work shop and demonstrated his principles to wich the engineers scratch their heads and said they will have to check with more theory, there's a lot of people who don't want this knowledge to be available, I'm sorry to say that I have a feeling that you are one of those people, there is a website on internet created by gerad and bue , take a trip to Nigeria where you can see multiple houses using this technology
@@dominicgeorge7299 Well, the goal in this case is to create energy for free, right? Don't you need to know what energy is to show that you're doing that? (These people have not shown that). Nobody contests that you can make devices where some particular measurement of output is higher than the input. Devices that increase measurable things like voltage, current, torque, and rpm are common, but these are not over-unity or free energy. You have to actually understand what energy is to show that you're making it from nothing. The thing about energy is you can't really measure it directly. You have to measure its components and calculate it, but that involves basic theory. These people are not stupid, they are doing what we all do do until we learn to use the tools of prediction that established theory can provide. I tried to make a motor /generator pair run forever when I was about 8... It didn't work and now I understand why.
@@drienkm you have not and did not watch iconium technology where not only the principles was explained but a full demonstration, if you're not going to watch from beginning to end then you can't speak, please watch iconium technology where a Nigerian explains in detail then demonstrates, note that iconium technology video is not monetize, not like the free energy is faaake guy is ,he is an influencer paid to cast doubt, also I dare you to research maxwell chikumbutsu I hope I'm spelling his name right, he is from Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 and the first inventor of a television that operates on free energy, using radio waves, he has also invented an electric car that does not need charge, also an helicopter that runs on multiple fuel sources, last but not least is research the name Harlow mayne's h2 flex an inventor from Jamaica who runs his car off of water only, he sells his device for $1000 dollars, you can find his device on you tube being used by Americans, sorry but your time is up please don't be upset
Until I saw this video, I didn't know if this type of free energy device works or not. In the video I detected multiple psychological tricks used to influence people. There's that. Also I am an electrician. And I caught him telling a couple of untruths. So now I KNOW the devices work. Thank you.
The video could have been a third of the length if you simply reproduced the experiment and showed it doesn't work.... this is just going to embolden the people who want to believe
Ok, I get the physics of the process and I agree with your evaluation. But now, please, be so kind and explain to me how they power the electric motor to run? I mean, I do not think they hid another electric motor inside of the main motor to power the alternator. It is not possible to put a small electric motor to power a big 1KW 230V motor from the inside. So, where is the source of power to move the electric motor? In the alternator? How they could have hidden the other motor to make the entire set move? Or they simply had hidden cables to move the electric motor? In some of their videos they move the entire set around and it still runs. If there are hidden cables, it would be hard to do. I also saw another guy who made a similar video but with a generator, not alternator. He coupled an electric motor, a power generator from Trabant, added a big capacitor and started the set from a external battery and after a minute or so he disconnected the battery and the set also worked. He did not do any modification to the power generator and did not add magnets. Just connected an old electric motor with a power generator and a big capacitor, started the whole set from an external battery and it ran by itself. He moved the set around to show it works. But he did not draw any electricity from it, just showed that it works without external power. So, please, explain how they make the set rotate?
Personally I don't trust these Agent Smith videos. We all know the rich have a lot of power, control, and wealth to lose if they can't keep dinging everyone for energy consumption. Only way to know for sure is to throw one together yourself.
strange that it was not mentioned in the video that the original generator is 24V 200A and the motor is a 220V motor. Then how or where was it converted from 24V to 220V? It's a good thing that the laws of physics aren't always right, otherwise a bumblebee wouldn't be able to fly.
Thank you .I've often wondered where they stuck the battery or hid the plug in power cord or reverse video .your a good man for exposing them great show thank you it appreciated.
All factors affecting the amount of power generations and the associated motor losses and efficiency are well explained. The application of Faraday's law on power generation and the opposing magnetic field effect under Lenz law must be considered.
All the rules and conversions bring you to the state determined only by them. There are still states that no one has measured or calculated yet, but using the frame you will never get to them.
@@MsWaldx laws that in uni.v. cannot be broken much like #1 e-mc2 thermodynamics 1st law energy cannot be created or destroyed IE. E-MC2 those are laws that cannot be broken .
Ok, so how do you explain that we're not all using simple devices like these to power our devices? - "Get up, grandma, and spin up the alterator so that we can make some coffee!"
A 60 year old 'patent' is irrelevant they generally only last 20yrs, plus only tbe west obeys them. Do the crazys who believe this works think that china and developing countries would pay any attention to the 'patent' ?
The magnet arrangement is the secret of the device. The magnetic flux is shaped in such a way that increases the field strength in the right areas. The alternator then becomes very efficient for the amount of power input. Too many armchair scientists who don't even replicate something that's been documented and explained time and time again.
@@pstonard please do your own research. I won't spoon feed. But I'll point you in the right direction. Go look up the energy from the vacuum series. There is a part about magnetic gates where it was discovered that magnetic fields could be shaped. This is the key. There is also the lockridge device from ww2 that used similar principles on an old Bosch starter generator. The starter pulsed the motor, and the generated back EMF spikes were collected in a capacitor. Look up Troy Reed. So many witnesses/inventors of this technology. Believe in a better world. With sustainable energy. Tesla's true legacy.
@@jontanneguy4960 Happy to do my own research, thanks for the pointers. So you don't have a working device yet? No performance data, just the heritage of the tech you claim will work. Let the adventure begin!
All is energy. And it is ALREADY ALWAYS FREE. Electrons in the copper of coils are energy but in chaotic state. They are put " in phase" by the rotator. Like photons are put "in phase" in a Laser. So use a light rotor at high RPM ( 10-50000₩) and double coils on the stator to avoid saturation of electrons and you will get free infinite energy.
I have a question what happen when you take the to motors that are the same give it like a 10:1 gear ratio would it be possible to make it run itself and if you change the direction of the motor with smaller gear/pulley would it generate power to at prolong it?
Not really. You always have to think of it as a field of magnetic flux and vectors. Depending on the relative orientation, direction and movement of the magnet and the coil (+its core) the relative vector might vary and induce smaller voltage (Maxwell equations) and not a continuous sinus, but just some bump, as shown at 3:40.
the only way for your little block to have "no potential energy" is to put it inside a universe where it is the only mass, or inside a cavity that will act like a shield ; if you remove your table, the block will fall : so it still has potential energy
A lack of physics in your education can make you believe almost anything. Especially these "free energy" devices. Thank goodness we have people on this platform who know how to communicate physics in a understandable way and hopefully more people get educated. Many thanks for this video.
So the alternator that you have in your car its useless? WOW.... You better go back to school and pick a better teacher cos the one you had when you went to school really sucked!. Do please explain to me why a DC motor can be used as generator. Please explain to me how magnetic fields work cos magnetic fields are in play when you car alternator charge the BATTERY OF YOUR CAR!. Ignorance today is a very bad thing!.. Would you kindly explain to me how AC portable electricity generator works?I am talking about those that have a gasoline motor that make spin the AC GENERATOR!.. My personal suggestion plug your brain to reality and invest less in Big E companies cos these companies are trashing your brain!. BTW i barely started the video and stopped it cos the guy face is idiotic and pretty much know what he is gonna say already without watching the video....
the physics platform has errors. Nature is our only guide and it is full of free energy. Only the most gollible and ignorant would blindly believe the fake laws of physics.
I think you should take your own advice. because he is wrong . You don’t get energy or electricity out of the magnets and it has nothing to do with the copper that's there other than its original job. The magnet turns the motor by using the shell of the motor as it turns since the shell or cover is made out of metal. As the motor turns it generates energy similar to a water turbine on dams instead of a propeller or whatever is inside a dams mechanics its the magnets and the metal cover of the motor that is the water and the magnets the propeller that spins the turbine. the use of the other motor is for it to keep it at a constant spin so it generates the max amount of energy or power. because the momentum of the magnets and the spinning will eventually stop.
@@diesiraeetvindictae1635 I'm sure you're trying to explain this set-up, but I'm having a hard time deciphering what you are trying to say. First of all, what's the original job of the copper? Are you trying to say that the iron cover is spinning the magnets around? How do you compare a stream of water inside a hydro-electric generator to the iron cover? How do you envision that the iron cover influences the magnets inside it? Where does the other motor get its energy from and why does the spinning eventually stop?
@@umitdolap1733 wow, allot of questions and excuse me on my words. 1. The copper wires I think are used to generate the electricity while it spins which is it’s original job and if the magnets are giving any charge it’s not significant. 2. Iron is how do you say when a magnet can stick to it can be magnetized it can influence magnets. So, yes it’s influencing the spinning. 3. About the dam and magnets it’s the best example I could think of at the time and try to compare one with the other. On which one influences each part. 4. I’m not a engineer or scientist or have a high school diploma so I can’t explain it any better how does the magnets spin I’m doing my best logically and common sense. But, I’m assuming that the polarity of north and south has something to do with it. 5. I’m not an electrician or engineer. But, when the magnet generator spins it generates a certain amount of power thus the other generator uses whatever power it needs to spin the magnet generator to produce the energy it needs to power. But, the additional energy where it’s coming from I wouldn’t say it’s not coming from nowhere. I watched this supposedly RUclipsr to explain to me where the energy was coming from and how it’s fake. He didn’t do that only thing I got was jealousy of that RUclipsr having so many people, then there was the props which you were hoping he would build a smaller version which he didn’t, and the copper wires and the magnet he was just moving up or down or whatever is not what that experiment was doing on that RUclips channel. @umit dolap only thing I would say is build it yourself or something similar or within your budget. Those generators weren’t cheap it would cost you +/-$1000/£1000.
Hi, and thanks for the video, I have often wondered if I could fit permanent magnets to the axle of the diesel motor on my sailboat, and a coil in front of this, thus generating enough electric to get a hot cup of tea. The idea is great, but I wouldn´t have a clue how to do it safely in reality.
No need to over comlicate the issue. Just run a small (automotive type) alternator from the engine. Or, come to that, mount a small wind turbine, ideally high up the mast.
there are concepts out there to this but as you mentioned it its hard to do, as a electo nuclear profesor it didnt belive in such a thing, reasech and building changed my mind. work for a Gov and you will know how it works. trade off to it is the generator and how big it can get
I grew up learning and believing that perpetual motion devices were impossible. However, after viewing the videos regarding a perpetual energy device which you claimed were faked, I could not see how. But your explanations are, in effect, it is impossible therefore it is impossible and he could have done it more efficiently. You didn’t address the hours of video run time. No small battery that could fit in all of the objects in the video could run the motor and drill for the hours seen on the videos. Was it just CGI? I don’t know, I’m highly skeptical of the perpetual device but you did not disprove a thing.
Sorry Robert, but your comment to me looks like: „Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,... „Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, „Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, You did not disprove a thing." That's the point my friend! ☆
@@moodiblues2 Absolutely, but I guess you didn't get my "joke". The term "Lorem ipsum..." is used in the web for random text. But the relevant fact of your comment was "but you did not disprove a thing." So, actually your comment could have had only these 7 words and everything would have been said ;)
@@M0nst4ImG4rt3n ah! Clever😎 You never know what four years of high school Latin can do for you. I was a terrible student, but thru osmosis, I figure, I got enough to do well for me on those college entrance exams like the SAT and the LSATs.
@@moodiblues2 I have no knowledge about latin at all, to be honest 😄 but I like your attitude about "it's not wrong until you disprove it"! That's much more reasonable than making a video that tries to explain a fake, with a completely different setup, LOL!
Of course we know sail boats can't work either. That would be free energy. Interestingly it was 10 years before a magazine would admit to a heaver than air airplane could actually fly...
when conductor cuts magnetic line of force the emf induced means magnetic line of force pushing electrons to flow in conductor since we know conductor contain electrons but it needs magnetic line of force or electro magnetic line of force is to push those electrons that's how it induces emf (Electro Moto Force).
If your your output of the electric motor exceeds the demand to keep both running, it is very possible to do this. I have literally seen these in real life working. BUT the alternator was modified to produce enough power to start the electric motor and the electric motor had to be started the first time using a large fast drill or other means to get it up to speed to produce the power needed for the entire load. There is literally no difference between plugging your electric motor into a electrical socket to run it vs getting power from another source as long as that source supplies enough power for the electric motor to keep running. I can use batteries, electrical outlet on the grid, solar panels, wind turbine.. or anything else. AND IF the source supplying the power to the electric motor produces enough power for that AND produces an excess in power output, like a modded generator/alternator, there is no reason this would not work as long as the output exceeds the input needs.
@@davidgill3356 his whole opinion is false on how it works. then he does show it by build one from supposedly "fake" video and his version on how they faked it himself.
@@davidgill3356 They don’t get energy out of the magnet and it has nothing to do with the copper wiring that's there other than its original job. The magnet turns the motor by using the shell of the motor as it turns since the shell or cover is made out of metal. As the motor turns it generates energy similar to a water turbine on dams instead of a propeller or whatever is inside a dams mechanics its the magnets and the metal cover of the motor that is the water and the magnets the propeller that spins the turbine. the use of the other motor is for it to keep it at a constant spin so it generates the max amount of energy or power. because the momentum of the magnets and the spinning will eventually stop.
@@diesiraeetvindictae1635I know perfectly well it doesn’t work. I was trying to figure out if the guy making the comment thought he was lying about it being faked or if he just missed the whole point.
Would of liked to see you put together their setup to disprove it as your explanation is good but an actual built version by you would be better, Thanks
I understand your video and reasoning why “it should not work” but considering you are also making videos to get views and effectively capitalizing on it, why not try to duplicate their exact machine? It appears like you’d be able to recreate it exactly as they did and at that point debunk it with the demo no? He put up the video of how to modify the alternator. He also states he will make a 2-3 phase motor version. He also states he did not hook up the other phases. There is no way he was able to drill two holes into 1/8 to 1/4” metal using small batteries and a power converter hidden in the motor. None. And in fact that would be an easy demo for you to build in order to debunk your own theory as to how he did it. These batteries would not only have to power the inverter to convert the energy into 220! but also power the motor strong enough and fast enough to spin the alternator too? Respectfully, I don’t feel you can say it does not work until you build it and try it yourself. I feel that if you built it and it worked, you’d come back in another video and be honest and humble about it. I myself am making plans to get a Valeo 60011 alternator like he uses and plan to recreate his experiment to a “T”. I know this generator is not going to power a whole house. But if I can power lights in a green house and not spend so much on an inverter, solar panels etc., it’s worth the fun to try! Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Sounds like a great experiment. You should make a video and post as a response. Be safe, hope you find your answer, and I look forward to your video response.
It is a good idea. I will go to a motor manufacturer and will make an agreement that I will receive an incentive every time someone will purchase their product based on my deceptive you tube shows.
I think it’s a good starting point regardless of what you think I know working with a gas powered generator for the last 30 years framing houses that as long as the generator is turning it produces electricity ⚡️ enough to run multiple things off of the circuit so why can’t an extremely efficient electric motor turn the generator and supply enough electricity for itself and 1 low voltage item I believe it to be a sound theory or at least a good starting point so instead of calling it fake without even attempting to build it and prove it’s fake because that was a half ass attempt to show any proof that it will not work you literally hooked up one too the other and spun it with your fingers and the it moves the generator that is a proof of concept so make it better and more efficient than the other and stop bullshitting and make it happen even if you add the principles of hybrid car technology and use batteries or capacitor’s it’s better than fossil fuels right???????
" I know working with a gas powered generator for the last 30 years framing houses that as long as the generator is turning it produces electricity" Okay this system obeys the known laws of physics (Please do your own reading and research to confirm, look up "conservation of energy") Energy can only be transformed from one type to another type, it can't be created or destroyed. Back to your gas powered generator. The input is the gas, which when burned gives off mechanical energy and heat energy. The mechanical energy is coupled to the generator that gives off electrical energy and heat energy. Both parts loose energy to friction and windage (air movement) At no time is energy made or is energy lost. The math is simple; both sides of the equation are balanced. For these FAKE contraptions to work the math is not balanced and some new energy must be added to not only run the load (tools and bulbs) on the generator, but to feed the full amount of energy into the motor that turns the generator. They tell you that the new energy comes from the magnets, or from the Ether (space around us) or the Earth. It doesn't exist, so please stop thinking that it does.
@@pstonard I get what you are saying and I know their magnets don’t add anything to the equation the gas powered motor is efficient enough to run the generator and make electricity but I think if that an electric motor can be made efficient enough that a strong generator can create power (even if stored in a battery or capacitor ) too run the electric motor and create enough to run other things possibly I know it won’t be easy as they are making it out to be but I honestly think it’s not impossible to do like I said it’s a good starting point
@@bryandouglas739 You are thinking this through, well done! You said " I think if that an electric motor can be made efficient enough" Well, the correct answer is that a motor or alternator (generator) would have to be made more than 100% efficient to deliver perpetual motion. This is a violation of the physical laws of thermodynamics and with our present scientific knowledge it is impossible. This ends the argument for most educated and knowledgeable people. Only the willfully ignorant keep claiming the FAKE video is real. I don't know how to enlighten them. They are close minded to understanding physics and science. This frustrates many of us.
So while you are correct, I think that an important caveat that you failed to mention is that there are perfectly legitimate proofs of concepts out there of truly amazing ideas of how energy might be harnessed that have amazing potential. You don't have to break or circumvent the laws of thermodynamics to generate power at much higher efficiencies than what we currently have publicly available. In fact I think that we are ABSOLUTELY capable of finding ways of generating electricity that COULD be harnessed at little or no cost besides upfront costs.
good video. Quick question. If the wheel on the motor is twice the size on the generator thus providing 2 revolution per 1 revolution from the motor. Wouldn't that increase the power supplied back to the motor?
The generator would turn faster than the motor, but speed and power are different things. They are related when power is expressed as the product of speed and the force opposing that motion. So the motor with wheel diameter of 2 would only be able to keep turning the generator with wheel diameter of 1 if the generator's opposition to turning was low enough (half of the torque from the motor in this case). Because generating electrical power presents internal opposition to the generator turning, this can only happen when electical output of the generator is less (maybe a lot less) than the electrical power the motor is using. The power rating numbers on the side of these devices aren't automatically achieved just because you 'turn' the generator or 'power' the motor. You get less electrical power out of a generator than the torque times speed (mechanical power) you put in. Similarly, you get less torque times speed (mechanical power) out of a motor than the electical power you put in. And for each device, the useful power plus the heat (thermal power) they are putting out is equal to the power going in. So no matter how you arrange and connect a motor and generator, all you have made is a noisy, really heavy, vibrating heater that needs external power to work. Making more sense?
@@drienkm Kinda. I have no experience but I kinda understand what you are implying. The generator is not going to supply enough power to the motor. If so, then why not us 2 generator? or 3? One motor to turn all the generator to boost the power needed to run the motor. Add more generator to get enough extra power to recharge power bank. ?
@@channyma Good question. You suggest multiple generators. Maybe the motor has a long shaft (supported by bearings) with multiple wheels, each driving a generator beside the shaft. It sound like your idea came from your understanding that the power from all the generators is summed together to power the motor. That's right. The problem is that mechanical power needed out of the motor is also a sum - the mechanical power required to turn all the generators together is the sum of that required to turn each one. In this case, the shaft speed is obviously uniform along its length, but the torque in the shaft is not uniform, stepping higher at each wheel as you observe it closer and closer to the motor. This all boils down to the law of Conservation of Energy (power is just energy over time). Energy can't be created or destroyed. It just changes form. Weve talked about electrical power (voltage times current) and mechanical power (force times speed), and hinted at thermal power (rate of temperature change times mass times specific heat), but there are even more forms energy can take. It can always be quantitatively accounted for. Energy into a device ultimately exactly equals energy out, even if the energy form changes, or some enegy is stored in it for a while (like a portable device).
I want to see the free energy video, where they hook up bright lights to shine on solar panels. The bright light hits the solar cell, & generates enough energy to power the lights. Another winner.
When I was still a child I thought of connecting a motor to a dynamo to keep it running constantly. I made sketches of it. Later, when I got older and was able to build the mechanism myself, I discovered that it didn't work at all. Later I also read articles about people who had tried to build a perpetual machine in the Middle Ages. But none of them succeeded. It was also clearly explained why it was not possible. Then I also understood what I had come up with would never work. And that is a nice learning process. But if people are not technical enough, they quickly believe that everything is possible. While much is possible, but not everything. The earth has many raw materials that we can use to convert them into energy. If you have a triangle, the base is the source of energy and the point of the triangle is what is left to be harnessed. That a lot of energy has already been lost and that there is little energy left to use. I think solar energy, wind energy and hydrogen energy will last the longest. Unless new energy sources are discovered. And that will certainly not be perpetual energy.
It would be better if you built the "perpetual" things exactly like they do it in the fake videos (a car alternator and electrical motor) and then prove that it doesn't work by trying to "start" the process, not by using two identical motors.
it would be better if you never said stoopidness.!!!
exactly, all he does is repeat fake science
watch the video again and try to understand what he's actually saying. then you might start to understand why the others videos are just view bait
2000 to 3000 watt, the windings from motor to the windings of generator must be act like a stepup transformer.
If the generator is outputting 24 volts ac connect to ac/ 12vdc converter back to supply the generator this will work.
The oil company offering and say,help us how much?!!! Tell people that is fake!!🤣🤣
Magnet energy nonsense? Really? So your saying a magnet doesn't have stored energy?You might want to rethink that statement. As magnetics isthe inverse of electricty. It's just how your able to harness it. So if you think your an expert on brushless motors. Then you will know that positioning is everything. That inorder to turn a motor requires them to be at then right place at the right time. That you can also use electricity to make a temporary magnet
While I may agree with you that they should try to use the most efficient motors
While I cannot say if some or none of these actually work.
I do know of ones that do just from simple logic how the other ones work.
For example. lets just say you have a baaic electric motor that also has a stator on the end of it.
Also lets say the motor has earth magnets on the rotor and has electron magnets positioned all around the motor.
That the electro magnets are connected to relays and directly connected to it stator/ generator on the motor.
So if you were to spin the motor faster it will create more energy. But when you want to pull a load from the stator generator its magnetism will increase making it harder to turn.
okay thats simple
So lets say those stators are connected to capacitors that go to relays and to the electromagnets around the motor.
So if you just spin it by hand there is almost no load or resistance, but will charge those capacitors fairly easy while you turn it, to store temporarily .
bur regardless of capacitors and relays. lets just say the motor doesnt have magnets inside it yet that your just spinng the motor by hand and the stator is energizing the coils . Relatively easy as there is no load.Then you make it so that the other end i drags along then shaft and only energizes and magnetizes at it final push (repelling locations. I you spim it by hand it still just as easy to turn. so putting magnets back on the motor and you spin it the motor is just as easy. As the electrmagnets start to energize at its push location. meang it will want to push the motor. that it pushes and increases the speed. still almost no resistance same amount jusy to turn by hand but
now the as it only energized during push location it starts to push it making it easier to turn by hand and as it turns faster it gives more power making magmnets stronnger pushing harder and again making it faster more power making magnets stronger that push harder then go faster more power >stonger>> faster> more power> stronger> faster. So now by adding MOSFET relays you reduce the friction and add capacitors that collect and storen the excess energy when not acitivated that ot uses when it does and you have a magnet motor. Simple ideaa.
So now back to these ones i. have noticed the ones that look legit usally have different size motor/generators. That if the motor is smaller the the generator has a larger pulley. which makes it eaiser for the motor to turn the for the power it recives. That I havent seen any working models that have two same size motors and pulleys that are working. Which may be because of to inefficiency it doesnt produce enough eneegy to spi something that itself requires same effort to spin and thats what I belive you haven't factored into to equation is the gearing of the pulleys to make up for those inefficiencies.
So you can just go blah, blah, blah without any actual testing of your own to validate your rambling.
No No No ! Youve done a good job of saying why is SHOULDN'T work, but then there's the evidence of my own eyes. In one vids they stripped every component down to demo there were no batteries. So tell me, never mind the maths and laws, where's the slight of hand in that video ? Please point to it.
Some people live of bullshit learned at university. But they never did experiment with their hands. Free energy is possible and easy.
funny how the first part of the video is an ad trying to sell somethine
Version 1.0... "We use special magnets and can't tell you the specific details right now which means if you try to build it yourself, it probably wont work..."
Version 2.0... "We use a special alloy of aluminium and silver and we can't tell you the specific details right now which means if you try to build it yourself, it probably wont work..."
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If they are in a country with a relatively low currency exchange rate, making a convincing fake video that generates a lot of views could very well provide income that far exceeds a typical wage.
There will always be people willing to sell snake oil, just as there will always be people willing to buy it.
You are 100% in your "science". You are missing the point that a rotating magnetic filed (N, S, N, S, N, S, and so on) around a coil of copper wired does create current. This experiment was first done by Nikola Tesla, it''s nothing new.
Right... the energy comes from whatever is pushing the magnet. You can't push the magnet with the energy produced by the magnet being pushed... what I want to know from the free energy types is an explanation of where the energy comes from, not just "build this device and it will spin forever because... well, it's a secret, big oil is watching me"
@@CJCruiser it’s simple I’ve tried it and it does work it’s not fake how do you think a dynamo works in a car! It charges the battery so you put it to another motor it will power it simple!
@@seanseverythingandanything6440 you have never used the lever, it is something that has been used to amplify or increase the main force. for example if you want to move a heavy object. if you enter the mechanical field if 2 keys have the same circumference a short handle and a long handle. the long handle has more possibility to do the job faster
@@seanseverythingandanything6440 The combustion of fuel provides the energy to turn the dynamo. It does not create any power, only converts mechanical energy from the engine into electricity at about 80% efficiency. It can never make enough power to spin itself no matter what motor you attach to it.
@@johnathon007 have you tried it then?
Endless gullibility seems to be in perpetual supply, not free energy. I can't believe how many deluded people there are.
I would like to add a comment regarding the magnets, by the looks of their assembly they are trying to create a monopole magnet when they are placing the magnets north to north and south to south. I have attempted to construct a device similar to the ones in the video except on a smaller scale, first, try to assemble magnets with the same poles facing each other, It can be done but with a lot of blood sweat, and even some tears. When the glue dried I found something very interesting and at first unexpected. the next day I started assembling the device and I found that all of the magnets were almost no longer magnets in other words most of the magnetic flux was gone, disappeared. orientating the magnets in opposing directions caused a canceling effect of the magnetic flux. Thanks for allowing my to cents worth, this day and age and what is going on these days I wish this could be true but it's not. Let us take care of the greed and allow people the dignity of life and get rid of the corruption that is our governments and leaders. every decision must be put to a vote every outcome is absolutely transparent and free of charge for any person to review..
‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
man we need someone like you for president haha
I really love the last paragraph that you said👏
@@pstonard You right Peter, so Democratically chosen Governments are never just, or impartial, because people elect the leader often based on his charisma, like that comedian who now runs Ukraine, wanted to join NATO and upset Russians, but a sensible Dictator would not have let this happen that caused so much devastation to both sides, all the way that we are now facing true Nuclear crises, thats because people choose leaders not on their merit and experience , as an example both UK PM and Chancellor been nominated by party members, and look what happened to our Pound!
Nice work, well put. I think there stupid not corrupt. They been brainwashed to believe wat quality & how to run a world maintain power etc etc..things since birth most of them. Just like us. Corruption is a small part, lacking imagination & sense is a major part of the problem. They put stupid ppl in charge to maintain sosociety & spastiCITY! Democracy is not a good thing if the ppl are all retards & have no concept of reality. Wat you want & wat you need are not always compatable. If you don't think or imagine, dream or see things in different lights then you fight for wat you know not wat could be.
This example reminds me of a guy who was playing with an alternator and convinced himself he was making a bit over a kilowatt (About 1.5 kilowatts) from around 20-30 watts of input. How? He stuck a roughly 2HP motor on the alternator to drive it, then plugged in a roughly 2 amp at 12V field current. In his mind, he was "putting in" 24 watts of power into his machine (12V x 2 amps of field current). The fact that he was measuring around 1500 watts of output from 2HP of mechanical power should have clued him in, but it didn't.
A simpler way to fake the video is just to run power up through the underside, into the power strip. No need to gut the parts, just spin the generator with the motor, plugged in. Mains power can be fed in through table legs, holes in the table or any other route, out of sight of the camera..
I get your explanation and others as well. Instead of talking about it, build one to prove your explanations. Many people are skeptics and I'm one but he did show what he did...
I will build one soon, f.. too cold now!!
No, he didn't, he _faked_ what he did.
Refusing to acknowledge basic physics principles so that you can continue believing conspiracy theories isn't being a skeptic. It's being wilfully ignorant.
@@GeoffCostanza perfectly very well said
if these free energy devices work then why doesnt the government set up a giant one and give free energy?
Someone said "There is sucker born every minute". However - judging by the responses of some people - I propose a motion to change this saying to: "There is a sucker born every 0.1 of a second". This would reflect better the IQ of an average RUclipsr.
Sadly, what you said is probably true. But your statement doesn't show a relation to this video.
I'd have rather you demonstrate. Your proof had no basis
@@josinitro948 hey man are you on my side? Do you really wanna know how to make it work? I know the secret to making it work. This is not a joke. If you are on my side, and you wanna know how to make one, just holler back and I will tell you how to EASILY make one that works.
We have a model bag with the Faller Car System on it, but have replaced the batteries with 'supercapacitors', so the charging times of hours are reduced to a maximum of 90 seconds.
Then these are 80/85% loaded and that is sufficient, because there they drive for about fifteen minutes at maximum, but the lap time varies from 1 to 3 minutes, some routes are longer and therefore more 'charging stations' and we do this through 'the copper mirrors on both sides'.
These supercapacitors can therefore also be used very easily, we use 3.8 Volt 50 Farad.
If you want to use one of 50 Volt 500 Farad then they are about 6 Cm long & 3 Cm flat, they have a charge & higher discharge current than batteries can ever have.
These will be used in this type of FAKE power generation.
I challenge these by putting a 5KW old analog movie lamp on it, one of 5KW, to date no one has accepted this challenge and thus fake labeled by me.
I enjoyed your video. Being a generator mechanic you should know you can't explain this to some people like the guy who said I saw it with my own eyes, so he's never been to a magic show. You can't trust your eyes or ears.
Keep up the good work
I watched that rebuttal video yesterday. Did you happen to notice in that video, that the motor did not run as smooth as it did in the first one? It paused very momentarily on a regular basis, almost like a jerk. I had to rewatch certain segments to make sure I wasn't imagining it, or it wasn't an effect of lighting or something.
Its called stop video because the battery will not last that long
Third mistake . . yes it is more efficient to use a 3 phase motor if you are transfering the total power from generator to motor and vice versa but they are using only 1 phase motor and they have given the alternator a first spin from the wire which created enough torque to generate an electrical current to run the motor which has a bigger pulley than the alternator . . so there's nothing fake in this
Basic Physics FAIL
The secret to free energy is to hide the battery very well. :D
even the battery is old-fashioned, which is already replaced by the 'supercapacitor', fully charged in 2 minutes (80/85%) and can handle very large discharge currents, more than the 18650 battery.
@@oldwizzy supercapacitors have a very poor energy density.
@@VrumsAdventures
Je moest eens weten hoeveel echte capaciteit ze in werkelijkheid hebben.
zie onder andere > Reload station supercondensator uitgeruste faller car systeem
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oplaadtijd 1 minuut, rij tijd ruim 10 minuten, moet je eens met Li-on accu's doen qua opladen, dan ben je UREN bezig met opladen, wat dat betreft heb JIJ nog heel wat bij te leren, energie dummie.
Only free energy is from sun, wind, hydro, etc forces... Its free and doesn't violate energy laws
@@oldwizzy the energy (in Joules) in a capacitor is the half the capacitance times the voltage squared. Let's take a standard 100F supercap which roughly has the same volume as an 18650 cell (18 mm diameter and 65 mm length for the 18650 Li-Ion and 22 mm diameter and 47 mm length for the supercap). At 3.7V the energy in a standard 3Ah Li Ion cell is 11.1Wh. The supercap is a 2.7V rated one, so a 100F one can hold 364.5J of energy... that's a little bit over 0.1Wh, 111 times less than a similarly sized 18650 cell on average. And this is a high end supercap.
Yes there are advantages to SuperCaps, but energy density is not (yet) one of them... and there are some new supercaps that are hibrids between a supercap and a li-ion battery, those are even more niche and still at 10x the energy density are an order of magnitude less dense than li-ion batteries.
The dual motor design scam is very popular these days since the scam is even easier to pull off as battery technology has gotten smaller and more efficient compared to the 2010 days, so you can stuff a battery powerful enough inside one motor to drive the other pretty easily.
yea, I"m surprised so many people fall for it. At least back in the 2010s and 2000s the crazy people using this technology would claim over unity or energy created out of thin air. That video claim 10kw of energy and doesn't even attempt to explain why it creates more energy than the alternator or motor.
To me the guy modified the car alternator with nyodeniom magnet as shown in his video and will all no that alternator has three face and the other motor is a (synchronous motor) an this motor has a different mode of operation which Is different from other motor.the futures of the synchronous motor are
1. The motor is not self started
2. When the motor is been synchronize it lock and the motor move the with constant speed of the prime mover
3. The motor is not dependent on other prime mover when on load
4. The motor will not change in speed on load or not on load after it has been synchronize
5. The speed is constant with prime mover even if on load
Now the second point is that the guy also modified the Ac synchronous motor with nyodeniom magnet which produces low rpm with high frequency and now put the output of the motor to a socket with he use to power the instrument
Note let me give u the breakdown
1. He use the alternator to power the synchronous motor
2. He use the synchronous motor to power household
He did not show where he modified the synchronous motor
he used two power not one
One power from the alternator and the other power from the synchronous motor
Build an exact one just like the car alternator and electric motor to confirm not use those nonsense you are talking about.
There actually is a working 'free-energy' machine. I've seen it, tested it, etc.. There is no such thing as creating energy from nothing; that is true. But there is a way to create energy from SOMETHING. You just need the right 'SOMETHING.' It works!
yup a Stirling engine would be ideal.. trouble is the friction and losses make them so week they could not propel a generator
Plutonium maybe? It’s what they use on the mars rovers, free energy!!! (Of course, radioactivity is just a kind of very slow burning fuel, it doesn’t last forever)
@@CJCruiser thats not free energy its literally the energy emintating from the plutonium thats what radiation is, its a form of energy that the element just cannot contain and therefore it leaks out but will eventually stop, and you cant just harness the pure energy coming from the plutonium you have to get it through other means like putting it in water so the water will heat and boil and turn to steam and then turn a turbine which produces energy
@@Fisheiyy sorry, I meant for my exclamation marks to indicate sarcasm, I know what radioactivity is, I just can't for the life of me figure out what other people here think free energy is.
@@CJCruiser That's not free energy. Try the Earth's magnetic field. Everyone needs to read about Tesla's work before commenting.
I really appreciate you for the information. As far as my knowledge of the laws of Physics is concerned what they are doing is fake. I left school 35 years ago but I think no new theory has been developed that violates the basic laws of Physics.
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You see this is your problem, you don't think outside the box. This is why idiots like these can tell you it's fake. It works
Great vid. Someone needs to refute the avalanche of bullshit that flows online these days
One thing the fake videos forget is "Windage".
Alternators and Generators require a fan to keep them cool so there goes some energy straight off the bat.
"There goes some energy straight off the bat." Never mind that the rest of the energy was freely created, losing a small amount of power for a cooling fan is an L = Shill for energy companies or internet dumbass?
@@duyvuitton6019 I really hope you are an internet troll or a Gen Z'er who believes everything they see on the web (Yay tide pods!) and don't honestly believe you can get more than what you put in.
If you didn't get what I was meaning in my comment, I was hinting to the fact that there are losses that none of these free energy machines take into consideration. It's not just windage, there are many things that stops any of these devices from actually functioning in the real world like energy being wasted through the wires heating up, friction from the bearings, belts and brushes which creates heat, the drag of on the rotating masses going through the magnetic field, etc, etc, etc.
How about some basic math, we will ignore losses for the moment. In this situation a 1000w motor can drive a 1000w alternator by itself, now say I wanted to put a 600w load on it. What happens? The speed of the the motor would drop until it stops because there is not enough energy to supply the motor and the load. So what if you put a bigger alternator on it? Lets say 1600w. Well you will still only have 1000w of energy since the motor can only output 1000w, so when you put that 600w load on it, it will stop that motor in the same way due to not enough energy being in the system to keep that motor spinning.
As for being a shill for the energy companies, well I'd be the worst spokesman for them, as I'm working on converting my caravan to solar so I can go off grid and I'm helping a mate of mine build a gasifier and biogas generation system so we can make human waste into burnable gas and compost, while he builds me a waste oil burner.
The fact we don't all have solar on the roofs of our houses so we'd have abundant free energy honestly gets at me.
If you want free power there is solar, hydro, wind, tidal and thermal, these will produce power passively, each one has there downsides but at least they actually work.
@@newdawn8477 So you're saying it does work to produce energy but mad because you're not achieving full efficiency... you clearly missing the point that perpetual creation of energy w/out reliance of the power grid is a win. You need more than 600w of power? Here's an idea, use more powerful hardware than what they showed...
@@duyvuitton6019 It went right over your head didn't, everything I wrote was proving it could not work and will not work.
I even gave you the best outcome by not factoring in LOSSES.
Go back to school and learn the law of conservation of energy or haven't you got that far?
Even if you had a 15000w motor and a 15000w alternator with ZERO losses, it still wouldn't work. Any load will deplete the system of energy.
Think about it and I mean think about it.
Ever noticed most of the videos come out of the middle east? Could it be they think the west is stupid and by posting videos like that they know someone around the world will waste their time trying to build it...
Thinking about it you should put your money where you mouth is and build one and have it running a 3kw load (this should be easy for you), video it running and then dissemble it with no cuts and post the link here, I WILL watch your attempt.
All of the parts can be brought off of ebay and ali.
Just prove me wrong by doing that.
@@duyvuitton6019 No, that is in no way what he is saying and he isn’t angry. You are just too ignorant to understand, don’t get mad bro.
But it is working :-).
Motor:
Input voltage (system voltage) - 220 V
Rated voltage - 230 V
Rated rpm - 1500 rpm
Input current - 230 V →21.8 A (measured
value)
220 V →
=
20.85 A
Input current = 20.85 A
Input power → P =VI cos ɵ
P = 3669.6 W
Motor input = 3.7 kW
Generator,
Output voltage - 250 V
Rated voltage - 300
Rated rpm - 1500 rpm
Output voltage - 300 V→ 5 kW
Output voltage − 250 V →
= 4166.67 W
= 4.167 kW
Alternator / Generator output = 4.167 kW
Shaft rpm = 750 rpm
Thank you, smart physics guy/engineer! FINALLY someone debunking the close-minded "debunkers"!
If you spin a motor with your hand, it produces an electromotive force. You essentially make it a generator. When the motor spins from an applied voltage, this still happens. Thus, a voltage that opposes the voltage applied to the motor is induced. This limits the current through the motor.
So, the unloaded RPM of the motor may be 1500 RPM, but when you attach the generator as a load, the motor will slow. When the motor slows, the induced voltage decreases, just like spinning a generator more slowly produces less voltage. This actually increases the current, and thus the power consumption of the motor. So, if the motor spins at 750 RPM, it may consume twice the power or more. Now the generator produces 4kW, and the motor needs 7kW to run at that RPM, and it slows. This cycle continues until the system stops.
Can you make the highest efficiency set up? With the coupler and 3 phase motor etc. I know it wont work because of power loss and other reasons. But you already made a small version of what they made which was all the worst decisions. Show us one with all the best decisions
a coupler will not work : it inverses the rotation, you'd create a short-circuit instantly. Another argument to debunk the debunker LOL
@@dirklanduyt they make opposite spinning motors or you could reverse the polarity. All motors in the world dont spin in one direction
The best decision in any experiment is to apply knowledge to predict the outcome. Then verify it by experiment. Once in a while an experiment does something completely unexpected and that is called a discovery.
The supporters of "Free Energy" believe the presenters have an experiment with unexplained out come, that defies the theory, and becomes their secret discovery.
At that point it is rational and expected by the scientific and engineering community to publish the results and allow Peer review. None of these Free Energy contraptions have been published (beyond FAKE click bait) or subjected for third-party peer review. Only a soft head will cling to the claims made that these are real over unity contraptions.
@@dirklanduyt Wrong! Motor rotation can easily be reversed by reconfiguration of the wires. In this case the swapping of any two phases of the three. Red to Yellow instead of Red to Red and Yellow to Yellow. Machines that use three-phase motors typically have a switch to make this change. Running a lathe "backwards" for example.
Your request is that we "prove a negative"? That's impossible! If you did try to replicate what you have seen in the FAKE videos, and then you complain, the author and presenters of the FAKE videos can simply say "you did it wrong", or "you don't have the right parts", or they left something out "to keep it secret", or "Big Oil (or the government) will come after you". Any story to keep you guessing that the Free-energy scheme is real. As P.T.Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute" and he was spot on!
you know how its fake? its "free energy", but they dont show you how to do it and dont disclose any info on the equipment due to "patents"
The free energy is produced by the Tommyknockers.
The funniest part is that the channel that you showed their perpetual energy gizmo would be revealed if they reached 100 million views otherwise they would not reveal the last steps on how to do it , plus without their last part of the how to do it it would be impossible for someone to achieve perpetual energy . The channel knows it will never reach 100 million views .
It is very magnanimous of him to put his perpetual energy machine on you tube rather than create a company to build the product that would transform humanity and make him the richest man in the world.
Excellent video! But why do people make those nonsense videos? The internet is full of this kind of stuff and people start believing it.
1. I'm with you when you say that there should be a reduction in speed of the motors when a load is added.
2. I wouldn't be so quick to call it fake if I haven't tried the experiment myself and actually built it exactly...
3. You give your theory of how fake that video was without having built the contraption you conceived of in your mind for us to see.
4. You title your video demonstrably exaggerated as the video you're criticizing never even hinted at "perpetual" or "infinite"
5. The video... also did not say that the magnets make more power than... But most of us who watch these things know that you change the nature of the device and it can produce more power when you've done as was described...
4. The people of that video you're debunking/criticising have a much much better command of English than you do so I won't blame you if you misunderstood what they were articulating.
I will try to build it because there is some logic in it taking into consideration that the start-run capacitor in the induction motor might have something to do with what seems to be a lack of power loss when a load is added. And to be fair, the guys in that video didn't mention the start-run capacitor, but those induction motors need them and was probably connected.
I'm with you 💯% and I'll try it.
I don't know why he forgot all induction dynamos produce DC energy which all rotors in any generator produce DC which produce electromagnetic in it (N/S). When the electromagnetic force is produced in the rotor and rotate around either copper or aluminum coil the AC must be generated.
Winds up, neodymium magnets is used in a rotor to replace the electromagnetic. So the magnetic field is produced, nothing could stop the generating of AC when the rotor is rotating. He forgot that it's a low rpm alternator, it doesn't required 2800-3600 rpm.
A simple experiment (Put the wires of your induction motor in your mouth and rotate it's rotor, you will fell the charge in your mouth) the highere the speed the highere of the the charge and vice versa.
It's not face.
BS!
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Your points of criticism e.g. No 4 tell us you just don't understand the first thing about electric motors or physics. The fundamental understanding of anyone who does, is that *_by definition_* if you create a setup where a generator powers a motor that drives that generator _you have created a perpetual motion machine._
Also your patronising second point no 4 (that should have been labelled 6 I presume) indicates that you think a foreign accent means lack of "command" of English. I think he spoke well and articulately and if you can't hear past the accent then shame on you. Also, just by the way: the original video that you refer to is all narrated in text. How does that demonstrate a "better command of English"? If they put all this video's spoken information into closed captions would that impress you more?
@Peter Türr Yeah either Google translate is having a meltdown or you just wrote 199 words of meaningless technobabble. I'll leave it up to the student to work out which "as an exercise."
Sure, scientists don't know what they are talking about because they only work in theory. Of course, they haven't ever reproduced the experiment. Because that's exactly how science works, right? Yaaaah.
I have built this 2 weeks ago. And guess what. It works! It damn works!. I had to find something because electricity cost rise 50% here in the UK. Now I can power all my electric radiators using this sweet 'engine' and show the middle finger to greedy electricity and gas suppliers!.
And you... Instead of talking you should actually build one to see it for your own eyes.
Did you have your video? Lemme see!
Feel free to publish your work. Share some PIX and electrical measurements. Would you allow a peer review? Without proof you only have a story...
@@darklight2.1 Just build one yourself!.
@@PraefectusStirling But why do we ask when we can build? Youre the one who built you can show it and explain it how it works
Actions speaks louder than voice. I'll try it also.
And also if the efficiency would be a 100% than the motor would spin up to infinity, and the voltage wouldn't be regulated either. Right? 🤔
Edit: Free energy does exist. You just need an extension cord and a good neighbour.
But the motor cannot consume more energy that it’s maximum allowed power, thus keeping the alternator rotating at a constant speed, not buying this idea of this free energy thing, but just saying
@StringerNews1 what's driving the alternator is the motor, no regulation on the alternator, means free energy to be consumed by other appliances, knowing that the motor will not rotate the alternator to a dangerous frequency, because the motor does have voltage regulation, it is possible that the fact that the alternator has no voltage regulation and because of the strong magnets, the alternator is able to produce higher voltages
@StringerNews1 i agree, i don’t believe in this free energy BS, most importantly the design is supposed to be simple and reproducible, but they are saying they will share the blue prints of the design, i guess the motor is consuming a hidden ac power from a hidden battery
@StringerNews1 buy man, they’re not stupid, being able to achieve 8m+ views and counting for that scam, is just mind boggling
@@freecodyx I don't know about more energy being put out than put in (he may have a secret to that that he's afraid to reveal to the public because of what happened to Tesla and others for trying to do the same), BUT it makes sense to me that if you design/tweak a motor to have the same amount of friction and level of efficiency when rotating as the alternator connected to it (with the help of the magic of strong coil + powerful magnets), the power assigned and transferred to the motor from the alternator would be the same amount of power returned to the alternator by the motor, hence an infinitely, autonomously running, free energy machine (after you give it the initial starting energy or 'jump start'). Where the hell is the doubt in that??
This guy is debunking this but never tried a prototype...Just talking crap.
אתה גאון אחי תלך תלמד אנשים בכל העולם את האמת את עושה חיים טובים למנהגים שרודפים כסף ושליטה אתה בן אדם טוב
It's not perpetual but it is improved input and out output generation efficiency. Its like traveling 100 kilometres in a v12 car and travelling the same distance in a 4 cylinder car. You will both cover the same distance but with different energy requirements. It's all about improving the way you conserve all the energy being lost. For example, Tesla can, if it wanted capture the energy being lost through the motion of the 4 wheels on the car by installing magic fields around each wheel. How would you classify the energy being recycled in this process? Would you call it non-consequential? Think before you criticise.
keyword being magic... MAGIC lol
what makes me upset more than random people getting fame with free energy videos are the ones who let these people have presentations in universities and conferences showing off their fake devices and talking nonsense about how they work
Actual universities?
@@brianellisiscool5875 look for "Muammer Yildiz" on youtube or google, they let him have a presentation at the Delft Technical University in the Netherlands, showing off his fake free energy magnet motor
I used to believe in this, but after I experimented, it failed, then I tried again and failed again, I decided to declare that this is a scam.
Dyson failed over 7000 times before the first hover was sold. Failure is the learning we can't read from a text book
Can you use truck dynamo. 24v.??
No such thing as free lunch
because you live in the matrix
Dude I have one running right now. What are you talking about???
Combine self running generators and power walls in homes and businesses, to have seemingly endless clean energy everywhere all the time. Even if the the output is lower, if it's continuous, you'd still build up ALOT of energy in your power walls, to use for everything.
How much is ALOT? Can you share some maths or measurements to your claims?
I love a lot of energy in my power walls !!!
@@davidhile5363 yep, that's what she said.
Magnets are devices that cne help us convert aetheric energy into electricity through induction.
tévedés ! a mágnesmezők éppen az ÉTER DINAMIKÁJÁBÓL ÉLNEK nem segítik , hanem csökkentik az EM HH IMPULZUS SEBESSÉGET A VILLAMOS TÖLTÉS ÁRAMLÁST FÉKEZIK ellen töltésáram interferenciás mezókkel
NO PERSZE HOGY VAN " INGYENENERGIA " DE AZOKAT AZ ATOMOK KÖTIK LE ! ! ! a kozmikus térből sőt a még parányibb atomi részecskék zárják be relatív EM , ÁLLÓHULLÁMOKBA mit akartok ti szitával szelet fogni ? ? ?:
on the back of the alternator is a voltage regulator and bridge rectifiers which turns the a/c power that the alternator creates, is turned into d/c with the rectifiers and the vokltage is usually 14 vdc. take them out and use the wires from the windings you are working with a/c power..
Then give us a demonstration that it does not work. I have watched loads of videos from companies experimenting with the technology with great success. even Adam savage from mythbusters has had his hand at it, and it worked.. Please prove everyone wrong and give us a live demonstration. Thank you kind sir
I love when someone shines light on to the darkness of "free energy"
All of you are idiots thinking free energy isn't possible. Nikola Tesla created free energy from the Earth's magnetic field, but the powers at be stopped him, of course. People like you stopped him.
I'm sick of all these rubbish free energy videos when awesome content like yours exists.
no not sick they are entertaining and fun to watch. oh and also make one think a little outside the box.
What content ? Using irrelevant arguments to denounce something unrelated si as fake as it gets.
Jews...
It's funny to me how they couple two machines together in their videos and pretend like noone ever thought of that. If you walk into a laboratory for electrical machines you can find this kind of setup everywhere. One machine acts as load on a machine that you are trying to make measurements on. It's an efficient way to test machines because you only need to supply the energy for all of the losses in the setup. But of course you can't gain energy this way. Awesome video!
like placing a light bulb over a solar panel and close the loop :))))
@@ELECTRONOOBS ah yes. Making influencing video just to lower people's faith on free energy machines. There's no such thing as 100% efficient machines as there's always losses. However, they can be overcame by energy creation aka overunity machines. Free energy machines are a DISTRACTION towards overunity machines which naturally have greater than 100% efficiency. It's either underunity or overunity. No such thing as unity. Ironically, overunity allows FTL. It's either under light or over light. Funny how truths are stranger than fictions.
All you ever are, is an electronic engineer. You never really understood magnetism nor how it TRULY functions. Hint: They are REAL unlike what you are brainwashed with.
Why would you make this video debunking something if there wasn't something worth debunking! So what if people believe in it! Let them fail! Try all you want you will lose people are waking god is here
@@ELECTRONOOBS I believe you when you say it’s fake kinda makes sense. I’m no expert but I do have a question. If you had a batter, alternator and motor and made enough power to keep battery charged while it runs the motor wouldn’t it be possible to keep battery charged from motor and runs small appliance like charge a phone
Hallo Herr Diermeier, lesen Sie bitte mein Kommentar.
Thank you for your presentation, and it is a verry good one. the major problem is that these con-artist are in-fact blurring the concepts of free energy with perpetual motion. the original concept of free energy was to harness the natural flow to do domestic work. these systems are considered free because the resulting work exceeds the cost of construction and maintenance of the infrastructure. The ecological consequences of free energy have been generally considered as inconsequential in these equations, many times to our detriment. perpetual motion, the action of a device that, once set in motion, would continue in motion forever, with no additional energy required to maintain it. This type of device would require such a fine balance of forces that it could only maintain its self any attempt to draw off of it would shut it down.
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no, free energy means overunity. ~ the truth is always simple.
Very well said Mr. Brown !!!
Now i know.. thanks to you master.... You nailed it... This video deserves millions of views... I hope they could see this before they do thier own experiments.... Thanks a lot for the information .... Loud and clear from the Philippines
No such thing as free energy.
What really frustrates me is that a lot of people are desperate to try what works but THOSE that knows are not saying what will work, if you know please tell the people what will work and what’s needed.
That's exactly what's happening. The idiots and illuminati folks are saying these things don't work, while the revolutionary minds like Tesla know that it works and just haven't revealed to everyone all the pieces. And NO, I'm not talking about batteries, illuminati folk. ;)
If you can't figure it out using math then you're kinda not gonna understand it. All of those old sayings were based on old technologies and what everyone knew.
When you say "what works", what do you mean by "works"?
@@drienkm i meant anything that is put together in this way/method, is there any that works?, but never mind as i got the answer that there is none/doesn’t exist that works being put together like this.👍
Walter, don’t waste your time, resources or money on these motor - generator projects. It’s simply impossible for them to work. The only free energy come from solar, wind, hydroelectric or nuclear power and all of those are expensive to implement. Also don’t try the ones that involves spark plugs, coils of wire and magnets they are all fake also. All these projects are for the authors to make money off of RUclips views.
Basically modifying an alternator by use of permanent magnets only made the alternator a
magneto. Even if he didn't do that, an alternator rated at 12 V at 100 amps could only put
out between 1300 -1500 watts and it would require over two hp. to spin that alternator at
full load since the alt and engine turning it are less than 100% efficient.
It is really quite amazing that there are people who think you can have a generator or an
alternator putting out more power than the engine driving it. Are those people smoking
fruit-loops or something, LSD maybe? and instead of seeing flowers and birds they see
all kinds of power being made with alternators putting out much more than the speed and
torque required to spin them under full load?
Amps are the electrical equivalent of torque, the more torque you pull from a motor, the
more amps it will pull from whatever source is feeding it. The more current you pull from a
generator or alternator the more torque will be required from the engine driving said gen
or alternator. it is not freakin' rocket science.
About the best anyone here can do is to go to ebay and spend a few $$. you really want
to know about science. buy an old telephone magneto from a fone like granny had in
bugtussle Tenn. hook it up to a lamp like 7.5 watts. You'd find you can crank it all day with
NO LOAD on it. but put a load on it. That 7 anna half watts lamp. now you have to put some
muscle into this. WHY? you ask.All those turns of wire on the armature with current flowing
thru them, made the armature a strong magnet and its N. pole is wanting to stay close to the
S.pole of the field magnets large u shaped magnets and the armature's S.pole wants to stay
as close as possible to the field's N.pole.
No it is not rocket science but it should give you a very good idea as to why you can't go
out and buy a whole bunch of motors an generators, put them all together and think you're
gonna be Mr. Whiz kid doing something impossible maybe making the 6:o'clock news
and the whole world of science real facts an figures takes a big dump because you want to
pretty much get a lot of something and not putting much into it. good luck with that.
For your information do not exist only 12v car alternators!
@@scamper_van8470 Speak English will you? What don't exist? messed up
alternators? Probably but nowhere as bad as this mess. a magneto was
made from an alternator as ur using permanent magnets to supply the
field whereas the alternator had a wound field, to be fed from the battery.
@@raymondgarafano8604 It makes sense to me that if you design/tweak an engine to have the same amount of friction when rotating as the alternator connected to it, the power assigned and transferred to the other device from the alternator would be the same amount of power returned to the alternator by the other rotating device, hence an infinitely, autonomously running, free energy machine (after you give it the initial starting energy). Where the hell is the doubt in that??
@@beaueads4170 So Beau Eads, it appears you have NO idea that when you pull
current from an alternator a certain amount of torque is required? And that
taking torque from a motor causes it to draw amps. It is not going to happen
engineers much smarter than both of us have been wrkg on this for decades
and still it is not possible, nor do I say it ever will be. The fact it is NOT done
now means it CAN NOT BE done. You will have electrical losses and magnetic
iron loss in both the motor and alternator/generator. Even a transformer with
NO moving parts, at best is still not 100% efficient, like around 95% which is
pretty good but how come not 100% as there are no moving parts? magnetic leakage or flux not going exactly where it supposed to, heat, yup another type
of energy...
@@raymondgarafano8604 I'm not a physicist, but there's GOT to be a way to tweak the parts and connections to make this system work. Try to come up with it yourself! I firmly believe, if it's not already possible (and just secreted technology), then it WILL be possible any day now, as soon as someone gets off the grid and has an epiphany and eureka moment like Tesla and Einstein had. Maybe this next person will be you or me. :) I don't believe you need to know physics and electromagnetism inside and out to experiment with stuff and discover something ingenious. Let's all be OPTIMISTIC and EXPLORATIVE!
this video should have 7mln views not the other way around. thanks for explanation for a non electromechanical guy. I understood everything!
His T-shirt convinces me that he is both smart and right. I should probably stop wearing my "I'm stupid" T-shirt.
Yes, just call it MAGIC! ... and we know how MAGIC works! ... it makes you believe it is REAL!
why didn't you mention the alleged patent that they say is blocking this technology
And that patents not only expire, but they don't keep ANYBODY from building something, just from profiting off it. The "patent" argument is a favorite of people who claim impossible tech.
@@SiriusJMoonlight even if this miraculous 'patent' did exist do the crazys honestly believe countries like china and india plus any developing one would pay any attention to it if this was actually possible?
@@chrisclarke6344 They have no idea at all. They come from the "I heard a thing once" school of thought.
@@SiriusJMoonlight the number who think this is possible is amazing, it appears a lot wear tinfoil hats as well.
The "free energy" video are a complete Joke no doubt. That one in particular I also watched it with interest and also looked at some comment ... hilarious.
I don't know It they delete the good comments from the comment section, but on those videos pretty much everyone agrees with that fake project...
@@ELECTRONOOBS Oh yes ...it's hilarious and that makes me think why almost all comments "buy" into the "free energy" idiocy. i wonder also if someone is not erasing the other rational and knowlegable comments alerting for the scam.
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As retired electronician engeneer I entirely agree with your true exact explanations,
Perpetual motion is a dream and still a dream. actually impossible to realise with the technology we know. (maybe with new technologies it will become more impossoble..?)
So if unity machines are a dream, over unity ones are a phantasm...
Great video you did.
An electronician engeneer should have better arguments.
What the hell is a "electronician" engineer? 🤣🤣🤣 we're making up professions now.
@@martinrock289 "An electronician engeneer should have better arguments." - Clearly he didn't understand the kit he was working on, or at least the physical principles they were based on.
The best technology Science Fiction can dream up will still not be able to create free energy out of thin air, which is what a PMM seeks to do. _Just to keep the closed system running would require energy input to overcome friction and windage losses._ Being able to draw off further power to dun your electric drill? Sure, just plug in Tony Stark's personal nuclear reactor and off you go.
@@christopherbedford9897 I think that if people upload videos from different parts of the world, especially from poor areas, I don't believe that they are all frauds and ignorant, that the person in question is the only one who is right. Rather, it will be that this is a counter-propaganda of those in the world who do not want to lose a large profit by selling electricity to citizens.
WHY DON'T YOU SAY WHERE ARE THE HIDDEN BATTERIES ? YOU DON'T KNOW, DO YOU ?
Two magnets of the same will push against each other. That is why they are adding magnet to the coil. The magnets on the coil push against the magnets on the housing to create rotation. When a series of magnet are added, it is possible for a perpetual spin.
We don't need your explanation. It's not enough. What you can do now is build one, yourself, according to the specifications of the "fake video" you're commenting against, for us to find out if it's really fake or not. Your words or "explanation" are definitely NOT ENOUGH. There should be a real demonstration, for us to find out if it really works or not. Electric bills are soaring higher and higher these days. We all need something like that kind of generator if ever that thing really works. We will wait for your real demo.
Everything you explained made sense. But the problem solver in me wants to try to find a way to make it work. :-) I know that sounds funny, but that is just how I am wired.
The first thing I started thinking about was to take your solution of connecting the shafts of the generator and the motor, however I would add a heavy duty flywheel in the middle. My thought was that the flywheel would help the motor turn the more powerful generator while keeping the power consumption down. At least that is my thought. So what do you think the Flywheel would add to the equation?
it's impossible without breaking the laws of physics themselves, you'd a material with literally 0 friction and keep the thing contained in a perfect vaccum and even then the energy inside is just part of a cycle, no new energy would be able to come out
@@romanpackham8471 But did they give us all the info at school? If yes, a flying saucer or ufo can not fly or stay stationary because there are no wings or rotors and there is no sound. Same with the incredible speed they can reach and the instantaneous disappearing or movement from one place to another 10 kilometers away. Not possible with the laws of physics as we know them. Yet these phenomena have been seen and are documented.
@@martinuso7446 ufos, unlike that nonsense, actually have science to back that up
it's called the alcubierre warp drive and it basically involves compressing spacetime itself infront of you and expanding it behind you which causes spacetime to push you along
it's sci-fi and needs tons of research before it can be made but it's actually got a chance of happening
oh and the chance of those sightings actually being possible are either illusions or hoaxes, a warp drive would have a very distinctive mark with it visibly lensing the light around it
as for the lack of sound, noise cancelling headphones use inverted frequencies to cover up the external noise so just use those if you want some quiet in atmosphere
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I made free energy yesterday and proved it. All you have to do is create resonance oscillator and measure it, then when you connect it to a good earth ground, it "will" begin to produce more power than without the ground. Many people are successfully producing many forms of free energy using large magnets, large gauge wire, high voltage and high frequency. It works in other areas of nature as well like refrigeration systems, sound, etc.. a microwave oven and nuclear bomb also uses free energy.
KISFIAM DE NAGY KÁR , HOGY APÁD HÜLYE VOLT ÉS TE IS AZ MARADTÁL
Excellent video! I like that you mentioned the reaction to the Lorenzt force. I think many people hear "moving a magnet near a coil creates a current" and think "Oh! well then just put magnets on anything that moves anyway and presto! Free energy!". Anyone who has shorted a DC motor and tried to spin it should get the right idea pretty quick:)
Research gerad morin ,also iconium technology, free electricity is a reality
@@dominicgeorge7299 I looked them up. Both seem to live mainly on youtube. I did not find any links between these people and peer reviewed research or anything that actually challenges established physics. In the "2018 study" (actually just another yt video) the guy shows some basic textbook formulas and says they were "found on youtube"! This is glaring evidence of lack of education, and is pretty lethal in terms of credibility. Instead of presenting operating principles and relationship to known fundamentals, the "study" focused on just listing specific minutia and specifications of the motor and controller, in exhaustive detail. This is typical of analysis by uneducated people, or those who don't understand fundamentals. For example, the "study" focused on isolated voltage or current readings to support claims of over-unity, without discussing the thermodynamically meaningful quantities of power and energy that must be central in showing that you have created an over-unity device.
Full disclosure, I spent about 10 minutes scanning his 2 hr slideshow.
@@drienkm what you see being Don is not theory it's hands on real why would you look for a theory, when it's being done and explained in your face, check iconium technology again hear what is being said the principles is explained in detail, now follow the instructions yourself, also gerad morin has brought engineers at his work shop and demonstrated his principles to wich the engineers scratch their heads and said they will have to check with more theory, there's a lot of people who don't want this knowledge to be available, I'm sorry to say that I have a feeling that you are one of those people, there is a website on internet created by gerad and bue , take a trip to Nigeria where you can see multiple houses using this technology
@@dominicgeorge7299 Well, the goal in this case is to create energy for free, right? Don't you need to know what energy is to show that you're doing that? (These people have not shown that).
Nobody contests that you can make devices where some particular measurement of output is higher than the input. Devices that increase measurable things like voltage, current, torque, and rpm are common, but these are not over-unity or free energy. You have to actually understand what energy is to show that you're making it from nothing. The thing about energy is you can't really measure it directly. You have to measure its components and calculate it, but that involves basic theory.
These people are not stupid, they are doing what we all do do until we learn to use the tools of prediction that established theory can provide. I tried to make a motor /generator pair run forever when I was about 8... It didn't work and now I understand why.
@@drienkm you have not and did not watch iconium technology where not only the principles was explained but a full demonstration, if you're not going to watch from beginning to end then you can't speak, please watch iconium technology where a Nigerian explains in detail then demonstrates, note that iconium technology video is not monetize, not like the free energy is faaake guy is ,he is an influencer paid to cast doubt, also I dare you to research maxwell chikumbutsu I hope I'm spelling his name right, he is from Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 and the first inventor of a television that operates on free energy, using radio waves, he has also invented an electric car that does not need charge, also an helicopter that runs on multiple fuel sources, last but not least is research the name Harlow mayne's h2 flex an inventor from Jamaica who runs his car off of water only, he sells his device for $1000 dollars, you can find his device on you tube being used by Americans, sorry but your time is up please don't be upset
Until I saw this video, I didn't know if this type of free energy device works or not. In the video I detected multiple psychological tricks used to influence people. There's that. Also I am an electrician. And I caught him telling a couple of untruths. So now I KNOW the devices work. Thank you.
Old school thinking old school ways or electricity company worker perhaps
The video could have been a third of the length if you simply reproduced the experiment and showed it doesn't work.... this is just going to embolden the people who want to believe
Not really.
They will believe anyway. And they will attack any who dare to show reality.
Some of us noticed the pyramid on his hand. I dont dust em
Ok, I get the physics of the process and I agree with your evaluation. But now, please, be so kind and explain to me how they power the electric motor to run? I mean, I do not think they hid another electric motor inside of the main motor to power the alternator. It is not possible to put a small electric motor to power a big 1KW 230V motor from the inside. So, where is the source of power to move the electric motor? In the alternator? How they could have hidden the other motor to make the entire set move? Or they simply had hidden cables to move the electric motor? In some of their videos they move the entire set around and it still runs. If there are hidden cables, it would be hard to do. I also saw another guy who made a similar video but with a generator, not alternator. He coupled an electric motor, a power generator from Trabant, added a big capacitor and started the set from a external battery and after a minute or so he disconnected the battery and the set also worked. He did not do any modification to the power generator and did not add magnets. Just connected an old electric motor with a power generator and a big capacitor, started the whole set from an external battery and it ran by itself. He moved the set around to show it works. But he did not draw any electricity from it, just showed that it works without external power. So, please, explain how they make the set rotate?
Hidden battery and inverter. And you can run a big motor on very low power, just with no load.
Personally I don't trust these Agent Smith videos. We all know the rich have a lot of power, control, and wealth to lose if they can't keep dinging everyone for energy consumption. Only way to know for sure is to throw one together yourself.
strange that it was not mentioned in the video that the original generator is 24V 200A and the motor is a 220V motor. Then how or where was it converted from 24V to 220V?
It's a good thing that the laws of physics aren't always right, otherwise a bumblebee wouldn't be able to fly.
In reality these silly perpetual motion machines aren't for generating energy but views. And from that aspect, they work very well.
Thank you .I've often wondered where they stuck the battery or hid the plug in power cord or reverse video .your a good man for exposing them great show thank you it appreciated.
All factors affecting the amount of power generations and the associated motor losses and efficiency are well explained. The application of Faraday's law on power generation and the opposing magnetic field effect under Lenz law must be considered.
All the rules and conversions bring you to the state determined only by them. There are still states that no one has measured or calculated yet, but using the frame you will never get to them.
@@MsWaldx laws that in uni.v. cannot be broken much like
#1 e-mc2 thermodynamics 1st law energy cannot be created or destroyed IE. E-MC2 those are laws that cannot be broken .
Ok, so how do you explain that a patent existed 60 years ago 🤣🤣
Ok, so how do you explain that we're not all using simple devices like these to power our devices?
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"Get up, grandma, and spin up the alterator so that we can make some coffee!"
Please find this patent you speak of and share with us your wisdom
A 60 year old 'patent' is irrelevant they generally only last 20yrs, plus only tbe west obeys them. Do the crazys who believe this works think that china and developing countries would pay any attention to the 'patent' ?
at 7:06, BY THIS POINT you SHOULD have pointed out that: a motor makes a poor alternator; and a BRUSHED motor makes an even POORER one.!!!!
The magnet arrangement is the secret of the device. The magnetic flux is shaped in such a way that increases the field strength in the right areas. The alternator then becomes very efficient for the amount of power input. Too many armchair scientists who don't even replicate something that's been documented and explained time and time again.
I'd really like to see some measured data. Do you have any electrical measurements? How about efficiency numbers?
@@pstonard please do your own research. I won't spoon feed. But I'll point you in the right direction. Go look up the energy from the vacuum series. There is a part about magnetic gates where it was discovered that magnetic fields could be shaped. This is the key. There is also the lockridge device from ww2 that used similar principles on an old Bosch starter generator. The starter pulsed the motor, and the generated back EMF spikes were collected in a capacitor. Look up Troy Reed. So many witnesses/inventors of this technology. Believe in a better world. With sustainable energy. Tesla's true legacy.
@@jontanneguy4960 Happy to do my own research, thanks for the pointers.
So you don't have a working device yet?
No performance data, just the heritage of the tech you claim will work.
Let the adventure begin!
@@jontanneguy4960 please do it!
All is energy. And it is ALREADY ALWAYS FREE. Electrons in the copper of coils are energy but in chaotic state. They are put " in phase" by the rotator. Like photons are put "in phase" in a Laser. So use a light rotor at high RPM ( 10-50000₩) and double coils on the stator to avoid saturation of electrons and you will get free infinite energy.
ElectroBOOM would be proud of you bro😄😄👌👌👌
I have a question what happen when you take the to motors that are the same give it like a 10:1 gear ratio would it be possible to make it run itself and if you change the direction of the motor with smaller gear/pulley would it generate power to at prolong it?
Sounds like a good thing to try.
Hi, could you tell me if there is a difference of voltage between passing the magnet in front of a coil and passing the magnet through a coil?
Not really. You always have to think of it as a field of magnetic flux and vectors. Depending on the relative orientation, direction and movement of the magnet and the coil (+its core) the relative vector might vary and induce smaller voltage (Maxwell equations) and not a continuous sinus, but just some bump, as shown at 3:40.
Time travel stuff..^^
Rick and Morty. I like it
the only way for your little block to have "no potential energy" is to put it inside a universe where it is the only mass, or inside a cavity that will act like a shield ; if you remove your table, the block will fall : so it still has potential energy
A lack of physics in your education can make you believe almost anything. Especially these "free energy" devices. Thank goodness we have people on this platform who know how to communicate physics in a understandable way and hopefully more people get educated. Many thanks for this video.
So the alternator that you have in your car its useless?
WOW....
You better go back to school and pick a better teacher cos the one you had when you went to school really sucked!.
Do please explain to me why a DC motor can be used as generator.
Please explain to me how magnetic fields work cos magnetic fields are in play when you car alternator charge the BATTERY OF YOUR CAR!.
Ignorance today is a very bad thing!..
Would you kindly explain to me how AC portable electricity generator works?I am talking about those that have a gasoline motor that make spin the AC GENERATOR!..
My personal suggestion plug your brain to reality and invest less in Big E companies cos these companies are trashing your brain!.
BTW i barely started the video and stopped it cos the guy face is idiotic and pretty much know what he is gonna say already without watching the video....
the physics platform has errors. Nature is our only guide and it is full of free energy. Only the most gollible and ignorant would blindly believe the fake laws of physics.
I think you should take your own advice. because he is wrong .
You don’t get energy or electricity out of the magnets and it has nothing to do with the copper that's there other than its original job.
The magnet turns the motor by using the shell of the motor as it turns since the shell or cover is made out of metal. As the motor turns it generates energy similar to a water turbine on dams instead of a propeller or whatever is inside a dams mechanics its the magnets and the metal cover of the motor that is the water and the magnets the propeller that spins the turbine. the use of the other motor is for it to keep it at a constant spin so it generates the max amount of energy or power. because the momentum of the magnets and the spinning will eventually stop.
@@diesiraeetvindictae1635 I'm sure you're trying to explain this set-up, but I'm having a hard time deciphering what you are trying to say. First of all, what's the original job of the copper? Are you trying to say that the iron cover is spinning the magnets around? How do you compare a stream of water inside a hydro-electric generator to the iron cover? How do you envision that the iron cover influences the magnets inside it? Where does the other motor get its energy from and why does the spinning eventually stop?
@@umitdolap1733 wow, allot of questions and excuse me on my words.
1. The copper wires I think are used to generate the electricity while it spins which is it’s original job and if the magnets are giving any charge it’s not significant.
2. Iron is how do you say when a magnet can stick to it can be magnetized it can influence magnets. So, yes it’s influencing the spinning.
3. About the dam and magnets it’s the best example I could think of at the time and try to compare one with the other. On which one influences each part.
4. I’m not a engineer or scientist or have a high school diploma so I can’t explain it any better how does the magnets spin I’m doing my best logically and common sense. But, I’m assuming that the polarity of north and south has something to do with it.
5. I’m not an electrician or engineer. But, when the magnet generator spins it generates a certain amount of power thus the other generator uses whatever power it needs to spin the magnet generator to produce the energy it needs to power. But, the additional energy where it’s coming from I wouldn’t say it’s not coming from nowhere.
I watched this supposedly RUclipsr to explain to me where the energy was coming from and how it’s fake. He didn’t do that only thing I got was jealousy of that RUclipsr having so many people, then there was the props which you were hoping he would build a smaller version which he didn’t, and the copper wires and the magnet he was just moving up or down or whatever is not what that experiment was doing on that RUclips channel.
@umit dolap only thing I would say is build it yourself or something similar or within your budget. Those generators weren’t cheap it would cost you +/-$1000/£1000.
Time to build one myself to determine if it’s real or not
its real
This guy has not done anything they did step by step to show that it doesn’t work!!!
Hi, and thanks for the video, I have often wondered if I could fit permanent magnets to the axle of the diesel motor on my sailboat, and a coil in front of this, thus generating enough electric to get a hot cup of tea. The idea is great, but I wouldn´t have a clue how to do it safely in reality.
No need to over comlicate the issue. Just run a small (automotive type) alternator from the engine. Or, come to that, mount a small wind turbine, ideally high up the mast.
there are concepts out there to this but as you mentioned it its hard to do, as a electo nuclear profesor it didnt belive in such a thing, reasech and building changed my mind. work for a Gov and you will know how it works. trade off to it is the generator and how big it can get
Perpetual motion machines run just fine - *until their hidden batteries go flat* :) .
Thank you My Friend for these clear words in this Video.
Thank you for taking the time to expose these liars
He is asking only stupid questions.....
@@hansjoviscroes7343 What would be the smart questions? Be specific.
I grew up learning and believing that perpetual motion devices were impossible. However, after viewing the videos regarding a perpetual energy device which you claimed were faked, I could not see how. But your explanations are, in effect, it is impossible therefore it is impossible and he could have done it more efficiently. You didn’t address the hours of video run time. No small battery that could fit in all of the objects in the video could run the motor and drill for the hours seen on the videos. Was it just CGI? I don’t know, I’m highly skeptical of the perpetual device but you did not disprove a thing.
Sorry Robert, but your comment to me looks like:
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You did not disprove a thing."
That's the point my friend! ☆
@@M0nst4ImG4rt3n non, amice, res ipsa loquitur is more like it.
@@moodiblues2 Absolutely, but I guess you didn't get my "joke".
The term "Lorem ipsum..." is used in the web for random text. But the relevant fact of your comment was "but you did not disprove a thing."
So, actually your comment could have had only these 7 words and everything would have been said ;)
@@M0nst4ImG4rt3n ah! Clever😎 You never know what four years of high school Latin can do for you. I was a terrible student, but thru osmosis, I figure, I got enough to do well for me on those college entrance exams like the SAT and the LSATs.
@@moodiblues2 I have no knowledge about latin at all, to be honest 😄 but I like your attitude about "it's not wrong until you disprove it"! That's much more reasonable than making a video that tries to explain a fake, with a completely different setup, LOL!
Of course we know sail boats can't work either. That would be free energy. Interestingly it was 10 years before a magazine would admit to a heaver than air airplane could actually fly...
than make the engine and see if it works
when conductor cuts magnetic line of force the emf induced means magnetic line of force pushing electrons to flow in conductor since we know conductor contain electrons but it needs magnetic line of force or electro magnetic line of force is to push those electrons that's how it induces emf (Electro Moto Force).
If your your output of the electric motor exceeds the demand to keep both running, it is very possible to do this. I have literally seen these in real life working. BUT the alternator was modified to produce enough power to start the electric motor and the electric motor had to be started the first time using a large fast drill or other means to get it up to speed to produce the power needed for the entire load. There is literally no difference between plugging your electric motor into a electrical socket to run it vs getting power from another source as long as that source supplies enough power for the electric motor to keep running. I can use batteries, electrical outlet on the grid, solar panels, wind turbine.. or anything else. AND IF the source supplying the power to the electric motor produces enough power for that AND produces an excess in power output, like a modded generator/alternator, there is no reason this would not work as long as the output exceeds the input needs.
Dude, thank you for doing this one! We need to set the record straight, always. Good detail. :)
this guy is producing false information.
@@amazingpower2761 Which part is false,be specific.
@@davidgill3356 his whole opinion is false on how it works. then he does show it by build one from supposedly "fake" video and his version on how they faked it himself.
@@davidgill3356 They don’t get energy out of the magnet and it has nothing to do with the copper wiring that's there other than its original job.
The magnet turns the motor by using the shell of the motor as it turns since the shell or cover is made out of metal. As the motor turns it generates energy similar to a water turbine on dams instead of a propeller or whatever is inside a dams mechanics its the magnets and the metal cover of the motor that is the water and the magnets the propeller that spins the turbine. the use of the other motor is for it to keep it at a constant spin so it generates the max amount of energy or power. because the momentum of the magnets and the spinning will eventually stop.
@@diesiraeetvindictae1635I know perfectly well it doesn’t work. I was trying to figure out if the guy making the comment thought he was lying about it being faked or if he just missed the whole point.
Would of liked to see you put together their setup to disprove it as your explanation is good but an actual built version by you would be better, Thanks
My thought too!
I understand your video and reasoning why “it should not work” but considering you are also making videos to get views and effectively capitalizing on it, why not try to duplicate their exact machine? It appears like you’d be able to recreate it exactly as they did and at that point debunk it with the demo no? He put up the video of how to modify the alternator. He also states he will make a 2-3 phase motor version. He also states he did not hook up the other phases. There is no way he was able to drill two holes into 1/8 to 1/4” metal using small batteries and a power converter hidden in the motor. None. And in fact that would be an easy demo for you to build in order to debunk your own theory as to how he did it. These batteries would not only have to power the inverter to convert the energy into 220! but also power the motor strong enough and fast enough to spin the alternator too? Respectfully, I don’t feel you can say it does not work until you build it and try it yourself. I feel that if you built it and it worked, you’d come back in another video and be honest and humble about it. I myself am making plans to get a Valeo 60011 alternator like he uses and plan to recreate his experiment to a “T”. I know this generator is not going to power a whole house. But if I can power lights in a green house and not spend so much on an inverter, solar panels etc., it’s worth the fun to try! Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Sounds like a great experiment. You should make a video and post as a response. Be safe, hope you find your answer, and I look forward to your video response.
so essentially a car alternator running with a coupler attached to a motor attached to a battery with an invertor could probably power a fan ?
It is a good idea. I will go to a motor manufacturer and will make an agreement that I will receive an incentive every time someone will purchase their product based on my deceptive you tube shows.
I think it’s a good starting point regardless of what you think I know working with a gas powered generator for the last 30 years framing houses that as long as the generator is turning it produces electricity ⚡️ enough to run multiple things off of the circuit so why can’t an extremely efficient electric motor turn the generator and supply enough electricity for itself and 1 low voltage item I believe it to be a sound theory or at least a good starting point so instead of calling it fake without even attempting to build it and prove it’s fake because that was a half ass attempt to show any proof that it will not work you literally hooked up one too the other and spun it with your fingers and the it moves the generator that is a proof of concept so make it better and more efficient than the other and stop bullshitting and make it happen even if you add the principles of hybrid car technology and use batteries or capacitor’s it’s better than fossil fuels right???????
" I know working with a gas powered generator for the last 30 years framing houses that as long as the generator is turning it produces electricity" Okay this system obeys the known laws of physics (Please do your own reading and research to confirm, look up "conservation of energy") Energy can only be transformed from one type to another type, it can't be created or destroyed.
Back to your gas powered generator. The input is the gas, which when burned gives off mechanical energy and heat energy. The mechanical energy is coupled to the generator that gives off electrical energy and heat energy. Both parts loose energy to friction and windage (air movement) At no time is energy made or is energy lost. The math is simple; both sides of the equation are balanced.
For these FAKE contraptions to work the math is not balanced and some new energy must be added to not only run the load (tools and bulbs) on the generator, but to feed the full amount of energy into the motor that turns the generator. They tell you that the new energy comes from the magnets, or from the Ether (space around us) or the Earth. It doesn't exist, so please stop thinking that it does.
@@pstonard I get what you are saying and I know their magnets don’t add anything to the equation the gas powered motor is efficient enough to run the generator and make electricity but I think if that an electric motor can be made efficient enough that a strong generator can create power (even if stored in a battery or capacitor ) too run the electric motor and create enough to run other things possibly I know it won’t be easy as they are making it out to be but I honestly think it’s not impossible to do like I said it’s a good starting point
@@bryandouglas739 You are thinking this through, well done! You said " I think if that an electric motor can be made efficient enough" Well, the correct answer is that a motor or alternator (generator) would have to be made more than 100% efficient to deliver perpetual motion. This is a violation of the physical laws of thermodynamics and with our present scientific knowledge it is impossible. This ends the argument for most educated and knowledgeable people. Only the willfully ignorant keep claiming the FAKE video is real. I don't know how to enlighten them. They are close minded to understanding physics and science. This frustrates many of us.
@@pstonard jew
Thank you
So while you are correct, I think that an important caveat that you failed to mention is that there are perfectly legitimate proofs of concepts out there of truly amazing ideas of how energy might be harnessed that have amazing potential. You don't have to break or circumvent the laws of thermodynamics to generate power at much higher efficiencies than what we currently have publicly available. In fact I think that we are ABSOLUTELY capable of finding ways of generating electricity that COULD be harnessed at little or no cost besides upfront costs.
good video. Quick question. If the wheel on the motor is twice the size on the generator thus providing 2 revolution per 1 revolution from the motor. Wouldn't that increase the power supplied back to the motor?
Sounds like a good idea to me.
The generator would turn faster than the motor, but speed and power are different things. They are related when power is expressed as the product of speed and the force opposing that motion.
So the motor with wheel diameter of 2 would only be able to keep turning the generator with wheel diameter of 1 if the generator's opposition to turning was low enough (half of the torque from the motor in this case). Because generating electrical power presents internal opposition to the generator turning, this can only happen when electical output of the generator is less (maybe a lot less) than the electrical power the motor is using.
The power rating numbers on the side of these devices aren't automatically achieved just because you 'turn' the generator or 'power' the motor. You get less electrical power out of a generator than the torque times speed (mechanical power) you put in. Similarly, you get less torque times speed (mechanical power) out of a motor than the electical power you put in.
And for each device, the useful power plus the heat (thermal power) they are putting out is equal to the power going in.
So no matter how you arrange and connect a motor and generator, all you have made is a noisy, really heavy, vibrating heater that needs external power to work.
Making more sense?
@@drienkm Kinda. I have no experience but I kinda understand what you are implying. The generator is not going to supply enough power to the motor. If so, then why not us 2 generator? or 3? One motor to turn all the generator to boost the power needed to run the motor. Add more generator to get enough extra power to recharge power bank. ?
@@channyma Good question. You suggest multiple generators. Maybe the motor has a long shaft (supported by bearings) with multiple wheels, each driving a generator beside the shaft.
It sound like your idea came from your understanding that the power from all the generators is summed together to power the motor. That's right. The problem is that mechanical power needed out of the motor is also a sum - the mechanical power required to turn all the generators together is the sum of that required to turn each one. In this case, the shaft speed is obviously uniform along its length, but the torque in the shaft is not uniform, stepping higher at each wheel as you observe it closer and closer to the motor.
This all boils down to the law of Conservation of Energy (power is just energy over time). Energy can't be created or destroyed. It just changes form. Weve talked about electrical power (voltage times current) and mechanical power (force times speed), and hinted at thermal power (rate of temperature change times mass times specific heat), but there are even more forms energy can take. It can always be quantitatively accounted for. Energy into a device ultimately exactly equals energy out, even if the energy form changes, or some enegy is stored in it for a while (like a portable device).
I want to see the free energy video, where they hook up bright lights to shine on solar panels.
The bright light hits the solar cell, & generates enough energy to power the lights.
Another winner.
Surely, you jest...??
When I was still a child I thought of connecting a motor to a dynamo to keep it running constantly. I made sketches of it. Later, when I got older and was able to build the mechanism myself, I discovered that it didn't work at all. Later I also read articles about people who had tried to build a perpetual machine in the Middle Ages. But none of them succeeded. It was also clearly explained why it was not possible. Then I also understood what I had come up with would never work. And that is a nice learning process. But if people are not technical enough, they quickly believe that everything is possible. While much is possible, but not everything. The earth has many raw materials that we can use to convert them into energy. If you have a triangle, the base is the source of energy and the point of the triangle is what is left to be harnessed. That a lot of energy has already been lost and that there is little energy left to use. I think solar energy, wind energy and hydrogen energy will last the longest. Unless new energy sources are discovered. And that will certainly not be perpetual energy.