The Oldest Objects - Objectivity 53
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Brady and Keith look for the Royal Society's oldest objects!
Films by James Hennessy and Brady Haran
Meteorite images courtesy of www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com
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"Lets glove up in case things start to get hardcore" is a great motto for the channel
+Aj Koorstra A good motto for my life too. ;)
Ew.
I was amused at Keith's distaste for the meteorite display case :)
He would prefer nice cherry or rosewood with real glass.
I'm always pleased to see an Objectivity video in my subscriptions.
+Jellyf0x we're pleased to be in your subscriptions!
I would really appreciate it if you could do an interview with Keith some time; I am sure he knows some fantastic stories.
This channel is so good...
+Saneli Carbajal Vigo make sure you share it then! ;)
+Objectivity But what is the oldest man made object?
I like the way Brady highlighted the script of the journal book's handwriting instead of just making whole sections brighter or reprinting the words at the bottom of video in modern typography. Well done Brady.
I'd really love to see some of the notebooks of the professors'. It would give people an idea into how those that can achieve high-end qualifications keep important information written in a compact yet effective form. Particularly, it would help me in my current studies now with such little confidence as to not know whether the notes I write will be enough as they are.
Just an idea.
The meteor is from my hometown. I was so confused at first about Kirin - it actually should be Jilin. There is a super large one preserved in a museum.
You know, I have the feeling that when a similar serial is created a thousand years from now, they'll just log into Space Royal Society Internet Archival Unit 7-51U and retrieve e-mails.
-"Well, Braidy! This is the oldest e-mail in the Space Royal Society archive! Here is Space President Nipsy's endorsement of the idea!"
-"Wow, Keyth! I'd better close my White Gloves.app when handling this, so I don't damage the file."
It won't be nearly as special.
This is the most beautiful comment ever.
clockWorks10
Aw, you're sweet. Thank you. :-)
What is the largest thing in the Society's collection?
+culwin Smallest would be interesting as well.
+TheRealDerohneNick Probably the Royal Society logo made out of atoms on to something..
Other than Professor Poliakoff's hair, I mean
They said that the biggest box was the Royal Charter Itself. It's like two movie posters put together and can not be folded.
Humbling, if not for the subject matter, but for the age and reverence of keeping the log for so long. The Royal Society is impressive in ways that have nothing to do with science.
The privilege, to hold such an old part of the universe... I envy you greatly. Brady, thank you for making these videos. I would have likely died without ever knowing that such things were there, in the Royal Society, outlasting all of us in their own glory... if it were not for you. You have my everlasting gratitude and praise.
Keith is cool in a bookish way, if this makes any sense.
+Dlee645 you mean polite, confident, enthusiast and dignified, or something completely else?
+And Burn It Shall i think he is all of the above but what i think Dlee645 is talking about is his refined way of knowledge (aka refined-nerdiness)
And knowledgeable.
Intellectual and dignified without being stuffy or pretentious. I'd have a pint with the man
He is what knowledge on the web (or elsewhere) should be.
Calm, polite, rational and at the same time fun and engaging.
'I think you and I have different definitions of well known sometimes' Haha epic, keep up the good work Brady loving the channel.
Every time i see a new episode i get excited, love this channel
My absolute favourite channel. Thank you Brady and Keith.
I feel like Keith and Grey would get on splendidly.
Keith is my favorite head librarian!
YESSS!! I saw the title in the notification on my phone, but didn't have time to watch it till now.
So I had time to wonder:
"The oldest objects at the Royal Society? Hmmm... Well, that could mean lots of things.. could be the oldest thing associated with the RS, could be the oldest man-made thing (maybe a book) they have in the archives, or it could be (and that would be rather cool) the oldest rock they've got. Actually, Brady probably will probably deal with only one of these categories in the video, but it *would* be quite interesting to hear about the others!"
...and you DID deal with both of the main categories I was hoping for!! Which makes me really happy for some reason :D
I am just now realizing that they pulled out a tray right from under the shelf. many objects seem to be written accounts - but inbetween suddenly objects in a boxed form - i really, really would like to learn more about the organization of such a varied collection. And stuff like: are there trays under every shelf? How are the old books conserved? Who makes custom boxes for some of the items?? What kind of order are they in?
At my university there was a whole branch on library architecture (and restauration) - since one can study this subject, i bet you can go endlessly in depth about these questions. But seriously, i would love to know more about the way things are conserved, organized, displayed!
Thank you so much for these videos. I love the quality, the engaging talks, the knowledge and anecdotes!
This is one of the real strengths of the English language, being able to read 350 year old books without any real problems. If I got to read a 350 year old Swedish text I wouldn't understand any of it as spelling and words would be arcane for a modern speaker. In fact, I saw some 100'ish year old text awhile ago and I could read it, but with _great_ difficulty.
Brady all your channels are just amazing ! Can't thank you enough !!
I find these videos fascinating (and Keith is great!) and it makes me want to share about my favourite old things in Korea...
"I like plush cushions" -Brady "Hard-As-Nails" Haran
Aye! Christopher Wren is known to me because my father is an architect. He was talking to be about Wren and his work at the College of William and Mary.
Very nice to find out about the origins of the Royal Society.
Love this channel. I think this is Brady's best =]
I'm curious about the oldest human-made object/document in the Royal Society. I know we have seen some books from the 1500s, but I believe I remember Brady mentioning that some of the books on the same shelf were from the 1400s. I love the space rocks and oldest Royal Society documents, but I'm extra curious about what other super old stuff is laying around there... It's all fascinating though!! Loving every minute of this channel!!
In one of the older videos they do look at books from 1473 with a guest I believe
No more Charlie.. More Keith.. The Gods are kind after all.
This brings up an interesting idea.... what is the process for adding something to the archives? Like if a gift is given. How is it cataloged and placed?
+fasfan I'd also be interested to know how they confirm that this is indeed the actual artifact. For example, what kind of tests did they run on that meteorite to make sure it was the chondrite meteorite that fell in 1976 (it probably included a bunch of carbon-14 dating tests) ?
+fasfan Yes! I was just about to say the same. I think it would be interesting to see the path of an object from when it is given to the Royal Society to when it has become just another item in the collection.
+Ti133700N Carbon dating wouldn't work. Carbon dating is good for recent (geologically speaking) organics (parts of something that was alive). IIRC the upper limit for it is around 50 000 years.
brachypelmasmith
Yea it looks like the half-life of C14 is 5,730 years and so the detection limit is about 50k years old. They can use other elements though, like Rubidium (87Rb) / Strontium (87Sr) or Potassium-40 / Argon-40 which can date objects up to 10 billion years old.
I want, I demand an Objectivity channel for the Vatican Museum and Libraries.
A pentagram proving scientists have liked metal since 1660, pun intended :P
I subscribed like two hours ago and then a video is uploaded immediately o.o
+Weber588 o-o
Wow, coincidence?
Yes.
:D I love Objectivity so much. It's amazing to see what interesting historical & scientific artefacts the Royal Society has. I so wish that I could go see them for myself!
Are your commentaries and jokes already made? Cause they're so subtle yet elegant, they're perfect!
These old books really have their own charm. I wonder if there will be any such books to be found 400 years from now as a lot will be in digital form. It's a lil sad really.
Do you think that there will ever be a part two to the chest video? I'm still curious to see if the locked compartment was hiding anything. :)
Hard as nails posh as cushions
If Keith doesn't like the case, he is free to send it to me. I request that the meteorite be kept in the case of course.
Love Keith's non appreciation of the display case
05:05
"Let's glove up, in case we start getting hardcore."
~Brady Haran, 2016
Hard to Believe that the Royal Society started out as just Sir Isaac Newton and his friends discussing Science at a Coffee Shop, now it's one of the most well known society's on earth.
Would it be too impertinent of me to ask for more than one video per week? :) It's definitely one of your most successful works and I have an impression that it deserves more attention.
why am i getting excited over this?
Wow, Brady -- you get your hands on some interesting things.
I'm a geology grad student, so I may not know everything... But my understanding is that chrondrites are formed from original solar nebula material and are about 4.55 billion years old, not two and a half billion. So basically older than earth. Achondrites, on the other hand, are much younger (distinguished by a lack of little round "chondrules" in the rock. The oldest rocks you can touch are chondrites. The jack hills zircons are tiny mineral grains in sedimentary rocks from Australia and are about 4.4 billion years old, and are the oldest "terrestrial" or earth-made materials.
why did people back then always writed so beautiful? and how?
That book is 100+ years older than my country. Always humbling to realize how young the USA is. Sort of explains why we elected the Orange Cheeto, we are still in our angsty teenage years.
And then Brady got a meteorite as a "Christamas gift"... What a "coincidence"! ;)
As always, amazing!
Does the Royal Society have some older book or just a human made object older than 1660? It would be an interesting video. Well, all of these videos are extremely interesting, so yeah.
+phrasel14 Oh, thanks, I've really forgotten this one. Then maybe they have even older things?
I demand an episode related to the voting numbers from the HI flag referendum. Either use the numbers to somehow pick cards from the old card catalog or something like that. :)
Kind of more of a reflective video for me. Billions and billions of years wandered a meteorite. Grabbed up by the Royal society in 1660. Time is weird
@Random Guy-Next-Door no, as they've said before, having tactile sensation of the book is far more important so you don't tear the book.
6:20 We see Brady's Posh as Cushions side ;)
I'm always worried when Brady handles the items without Keith.
That's why we need Keith in every video (X
Just for the (Royal Society) record: I'm a fan of witty humour.
awww... I was hoping for the oldest book in the incunabula section!
You do like your cushions, Brady...
If I'm not mistaken, chondrite meteorites date back to the formation of the solar system, 4.5 billion years.
... but I thought that _EVERYTHING_ has to be 'billions' of years old! It may have undergone *many* changes and energy states; BUT it's all still _billions of years old!_
@ 6:50 Brady thinks the 1660 book "seem a little bit less impressive". BUT: Without that 1660 document, he would now NOT be holding the ancient space fragment :) Ergo: The 1660 document is vitally impressive, I would put forward.
Why do you say the meteor is why older than the book (or anything else in the collection)? Presumably the mater from which the book is made began to exist at around the same time as that which makes up the meteor...
I'd love to see the oldest man made object in the archives.
Now you have to do newest object. Whatever came in the day you shoot the next video I want to know what it is.
4:15 NEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!
What was the royal society called before the king got involved and gave his "encouragement"? It probably wasn't royal back then.
Is there any official connection between The Royal Society and Freemasonry??
There are two damn Henshaws on there. I'm proud of my family, I wonder who they are and if I'm really related.
What a minute.. in Objectivity #17 the pesident said: "in 1665 only five years after the foundation of the royal society"
can you show some Francis Bacon stuff?
I'm guessing the '1976.3.8.15' on the meteorite card must be some sort of catalog number, it doesn't make sense as a date? Can you tell us what the digits between the decimals signify?
+Paul Drake It's a date, the last number is the time in hours, so it was observed at roughly 3 pm.
I was curious enough to check because that happens to also be the day I was born (some hours earlier).
The meteorite looks like it was brand new and only made last week, are you sure someone wasn't playing a joke on the RS with it?
+Green Silver It's just a rock, it doesn't exactly look much different no matter how old it may be, especially given it won't be eroded in space
Both objects quite impressive. The first one excites at a human history level, and the second one at a universe history level 😝 In defence of the red cushion, it looks like red silk, and both the color red and silk are very representative of China
Come on, the rocks in my back yard are older than the society.
What are the newest objects?
How do you know the Chinese didn't just put any stone in the case and pretend it was a meteorite? Were any tests performed on it to determine its origin?
Posh as plush pillows.
5:08 "Let's glove up, in case we start getting hardcore . . ."
What do you mean, "start getting hardcore"? I thought you were _always_ hardcore!
if you listen to him say it at 0.5 speed it is a totally different experience. Highly recommend it.
one of the better Empires
What about London Fire of 1666 ?
+Peter Bočan
The *Great Fire of London* in 1666 is one of those historic events that everyone in the UK knows about, which is why they didn't give any detail. Very few people died, but a large part of mediaeval London was destroyed entirely. London's present appearance was formed in the immediate aftermath.
But maybe they have something in there that has some story ;)
+Peter Bočan 350th anniversary of the Great Fire is coming up this September.
Brady, I so envy you.
What's the sexyist thing in the Royal Society - aside from Brady?
This whole time I thought his name was Caithe
Moray is pronounced Murray btw. ;)
Or, you could go outside and place your hands on the ground and you would be touching a piece of rock that's 4.5 billion years old and STILL floating in space.
Don't the books need to be in some kind of special environment to prevent their deterioration?
+Fazerax Not if you treat them to remove microorganism and acids, the room at the archives is specially designed to have a neutral atmosphere.
Aren't the book and the rock the same age? Like 13,5 billion years old maybe?
Plush as Cushions Brady likes plush cushions go figure.
idea: oldest reference to global warming in the society archives? lol
Some time before 1910, global warming through accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere was predicted by Svante Arrhenius. Whether it appears in the Royal Soc. archive I don't know, but by the late 1950s it was included in some popular science films.
You're also standing on a rock that's been floating through space for billions of years XD
Why do you handle old books without gloves? Shouldn't you in fact, use them?
+Random Guy-Next-Door I have wondered that too
Gloves make you clumsy and has more chance tearing pages
It's not like it's rubber that could cause friction or anything, it's just cloth. So I don't think it'll cause much of a problem + it helps to keep the artefacts from coming in contact with oils and sweat.
+Random Guy-Next-Door They mentioned it a while ago. aajjeee was right. You can have a lighter touch without gloves. The oil and sweat from fingers is far less damaging compared to the potential for tearing by someone wearing limiting gloves.
+Random Guy-Next-Door
Watch all of the videos. They've explained it about seventy times!
Begs the question though, how old are normal earth rocks
+DrMrProfJacob The oldest rocks are a little bit younger than the age of the Earth: about 4 billion years old
Luis López That's actually amazing. It doesn't seem like much because they're everywhere, and they don't look all that special but gosh, 4 billion years. We really take rocks for granite. ....sorry
+DrMrProfJacob Mind you the earth"s crust is renewing itself continuously. The earth is in fact the most active planet in the solar system in that respect. Has to do with a meteorite smashing into proto-earth 4 billion years ago that still gives a lot of iron and heat in the core of our planet and the moon (that resulted from the debri of that collision) is constantly pulling on the planet as well, preventing it from cooling down. So, the result is that the earth's crust is renewing up to this day by vulcanism and plate tektonics. Most rocks you see are thus not much older that maybe 50 million to 2 billion years old. There are only 2 places on earth where it is older.
keith seems like he cant be asked for the video
there should be a joke about the color of the rock (grey), and its distance from humanity.
I don't mean to troll, but isn't every rock on earth also "very, very old"?
Of course a meteorite (fragment) is cool, but, er - yeah :D
+Simon Vetter Yes, but not as old as that meteorite, counting from when they formed from their molten states.
+Simon Vetter Mind you the earth"s crust is renewing itself continuously. The earth is in fact the most active planet in the solar system in that respect. Has to do with a meteorite smashing into proto-earth 4 billion years ago that still gives a lot of iron and heat in the core of our planet and the moon (that resulted from the debri of that collision) is constantly pulling on the planet as well, preventing it from cooling down. So, the result is that the earth's crust is renewing up to this day by vulcanism and plate tektonics. Most rocks you see are thus not much older that maybe 50 million to 2 billion years old. There are only 2 places on earth where it is older.
Ronald de Rooij Don't forget the radioactive material in the mantle and ore which also maintains the heat
There are Earth rocks older than that meteorite. The oldest rock on Earth (that hasn't been re-melted or otherwise destroyed, although it has certainly undergone some metamorphic changes) is about 4 billion years (from Canada), while the oldest mineral fragment (a remnant of a rock that no longer exists) goes back a bit further (an Australian zircon). There have been meteors dated beyond that though, to the age of the Earth or a bit older (~4.5 billion years).
4:17 illuminati
Please do not use the expression hardcore, instead use "horror show".
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