This is without a doubt the most descriptive and most comprehensive video I have seen regarding the anchor. This and the back tension video you made recently have helped me tremendously in improving my form. Keep up the amazing work!
I asked one of our trainer to make a video while I’m shooting as I struggle with consistency. Was quite good to see that at times I move my head into the anchor position. Slightly but visible. Another issue they mentioned, and now I saw, just before release my right hand move a short bit to the front before fully release impacting the draw length consistency. I saw this video before and thought: oh yeah, beginner faul. And what ? I’m beginner and do the same. Need to work on that one and get rid of it. Thanks for your videos, Nu-先生. They are a great resource.
You made some very good points in this video. Your explanation of parallax for bare bow traditional was spot-on. You also touched one of my personal issues: hand angle. I always anchor to the same spot, middle finger on the corner of my mouth, with pointer and ring finger touching above and below, but I can be inconsistent with my hand angle unless I pay attention to it. If you get sloppy, that very slight bend in the string can become several inches by the time the arrow reaches the target.
I wonder how many neophytes noticed that/how the "hand angle" was impacted by the position of the elbow which affected the angle of the forearm which affected the hand...
I started doing archery here in Ukraine, but I don't always understand what the coach tells me. I watch your videos and they give me some nice tips to do during training when I'm not too sure what I should be doing
Thanks for the video. Very good explanation. I do especially like, that you draw the attention to the „little“ possible mistakes, too. That is very valuable for a beginner like me. And of course, thanks for your other videos! I very much appreciate your work.
I began shooting barebow with the anchor as you describe, finger at the corner of the mouth, for me jaw closed, not clenched, mid finger contacting the eye tooth. I soon realized that consistently, my index knuckle was at my cheek bone with my thumb knuckle at the back corner of my jaw bone- 2 repeatable pts of reference. Overtime I realized that that the string to nose and lips contact that I observed in other archers was possible without tweaking form- 4 repeatable pts of ref 👊 bamm, gift of my DNA, face shape and hand size 😎🎯
Only been shooting for a few weeks and just wanted to say that I really appreciate your videos. Watched this last night and tried it today and can already feel a world of difference. Thanks for all your archery videos!
Very helpful advice on form as well as parallax. If you could do a whole video on just parallax - including when the target itself is below or above eye level - that would be great. Thanks again from India!
I love reviewing your videos after a shoot.. it helps me realize where I went wrong. :) My anchor point was way to far back and I was shooting something too small, too far, too soon :) Thank you NuSensei! :D
I've solved my anchor point problems by using two anchor points, the tip of my nose and a kisser button. Now I've just got all my other form problems to deal with.
I couldn’t get my nose to touch the string. Really stressing about it. And my fingers wound hurt like hell. But the bow was to small, thanks to that observation, I got bigger limbs and it makes such a difference. Thanks!!!
Personally I used to anchor like most of the instinctive shooters, however I changed it to the olympic atyle. I shoot without sights, but I changed my anchor for a few reasons which I can't write all of them now, but underneath the jaw the arrow is at the same raw with the eye, so I have much less side misses. Still I have hight misses, and I am working on this. Thanks for the video
There are some styles that doesn't use an anchor point per say. drawing past the ear for instance like what mongolian archers often did doesn't seem to have a reference to easily anchor at except for maybe having the string somewhere on the face
By the same token, if one aims with one eye closed (like me), the anchor points need to be in a vertical straight line that passes the open eye. That's why mouth corner is a common anchor point: the mouth corner usually aligns with your pupil. If you don't do this, however, it may cause horizontal offset if you shoot long distance.
Great video! Your channel has really helped me out a lot! I'm a beginner compound bow shooter, a 65lb draw with ~75% let off, that I evetually want to hunt with. What is the poundage of the bow you are using in this video? And what is your go to bow and for fun? I want to get into recurve target shooting, looking for a good starting point.
Hi I have recently bought a Left handed recurve bow. I am more accurate anchoring on the right side of my face, instead of the left hand side, as I am supposed to do. Advice, should i do what suits me or should i be more traditional and practice left hand face anchoring.
What about a three under shooter? It feels as of the arrow will get caught between fingers and jaw line, yet going split fingers at short distances jncreases the gap significantly and I am not sure I like it, yet I do feel more comfortable and my shooting improves with the under the chin method but I feel I am not able to make much contact with my face, in fact I focus more on the back tension and the string touching my nose and mouth but as to my hand, I still dont know how to find a solid contact point on my jaw line
I notice that when you anchor in the corner of the lip you move your hand up slightly, is there a reason for this? Is this maybe because (No offense meant, sorry if it does offend you) you are somewhat shorter? Thanks for the great vids, they've been really helpful
No offense taken, but height doesn't affect how you anchor. I separate my draw, load and anchor steps so that I have the right back tension before going into the anchor. The movement is just me completing my draw and firmly going into the anchor point.
Just wondering, is the anchor point under the chin also possible for traditional recurve? It feels much comfortable for me, or is it more a method for someone using olympic recurve with sight?
Hello Nu Sensei. This is HFava from Brazil. I enjoy all yours begginers videos. Since im a begginer :) Could you give one advice? Should I aim with one or two eyes opened. I did bought a 28lb bow. As my Sifu recommended. I can (in some way) reach the target at 15m consistenly. But I still have these question in my mind. I'll have another class only on saturday morning. However, during the week, I can pratice safetly in my place Thanks in advanced. Henrique Fava
I use smaller bows and have long arms. It is very difficult getting the bow string to an anchor point. I prefer the small bows as they are easier to transport. Do you have any recommendations other than get a new bow?
My reaction is IDENTICAL to that of F2V2 (below). The other videos on this subject simply aren't as clear and/or comprehensive, either in their explanations or their footage. Thank you! Are you by any chance available for personal coaching (compensated, of course) via Zoom or similar platforms-or perhaps by emailed video footage? I have watched a lot of your instructionsl videos, but I've never seen any direct reference to coaching. Please let me know!
Sorry I’m late to the video, I’ve recently just found your channel and am watching all your uploads. My “coach” tells me to have a behind the mouth anchor when shooting barebow with the three under technique. I didn’t know if this was correct because it wasn’t really mentioned in the video?
I've been a barebow archer for 28 years, but having to take to recurve, with all the bells and whistles because of short term memory loss (which also affects where I string walk, and my point of aim - not good!). My problems are:- longer than usual arms, and glasses, so: I can't get the string to my chin AND my nose, without my elbow being out of position (according to a coach in my club). I also look 'up', so that I can focus through my glasses... any idea if there's something I can do differently?
Hello nusensei, thank you very much for all your videos! I'm exploring diferent anchor points for instinctive shooting. I find the corner of the mouth to be the most accurate for me, but the string often pinches my cheek, and hurts. At an archery club they told me that i should use "three-below" for this anchor point, and the problem indeed is fixed. But i would like to use the corner of the mouth with "one-above, two-below", as it seems more natural to me. Do you have any sugestions to solve the string pinching the cheek with this technique?
I've been shooting recurve for nearly 3 years but in the last year I have had (and still battling) a bad case of target panic. In my case i'm finding it a struggle to get to my full anchor point, as far as I'm aware the string is touching my nose, my string hand is positioned under my chin but the kisser button hardly touching my mouth. Also I find it tricky to hold for a few secs without flinching and end up just letting it go without getting into the proper form. I know one tip is getting someone to film/record you shooting but in the long run it's all well for that as the problem for the archer to try and overrun the brain/thoughts i.e thinking of the thought of proper form, reference points, holding on for a few secs etc... I would dearly appreciate some advice.
Good question, I dunno to be exact. It wasn't something that I had thought about before but I am planning to get someone to video me shooting so I can see for myself
Personnaly, i use jaw anchor in instinctive archery, i teach instinctive archery like that to my students. It's a little harder the first ten arrows, after it doesn't make any difference.
Great video! Explains high shots...hey I feel most comfortable with using my chin as an anchor...more consistent shot placement and all...is that taboo for recurve bows? Would I look like a douchebag (more so than usual) if I went to range and used chin as anchor? Thanks
+social3ngin33rin I find the release more difficult in my experience. I anchor at the corner of my mouth shooting barebow traditional and anchor kinda just comes naturally for me
Ok, youve just made me want a sight even more than before. I was looking at a 3 pin hunting style sight because the smaller profile and ease of use. Would you advise against this and instead recommend a traditional olympic recurve target sight instead?
This depends on your purpose. The 3-pin hunting sights are useful for hunting because you can pre-set several distances so that you can acquire a target at any distance and estimate the correct point of aim with the right pin. However, calibrating the sight requires you to use a hex wrench to move the pins. While this is fine for having pre-set distances, it is not very good for when you have to shoot from different distances as a target shooter would. Additionally, the "cluttered" sight picture from having multiple pins can make it harder to aim compared to a single pin sight.
Small question Nu, you were talking about the under the jaw anchor for people using sights. Now I've found that's a great spot for me seeing as the tab I use has a ledge that i really like, and I've found your anchor and mine are very similar, yet I shoot instinctive and no sights. I really don't plan on using sights, so would you suggest trying to lift the anchor up closer to my mouth to improve accuracy? Or should I just stick with what I've built and not fix what isn't broken?
Stick with what works for you. Consistency is the key; don't change just because you want to be orthodox. If there's a reason to change, it would be because you might find it harder to sight using a barebow method. Instinctively, if you can feel where the arrow is going to go, then your choice of anchor doesn't matter that much.
Good advice, I tell you what, i've watched your videos for about 2 months now, and I pretty much owe you a thanks because I have followed your instruction to borderline obsessiveness, and that has brought my groupings into a 3 inch ring. I'm actually trying not to break nocks now, and i'm not even using sights. You might be teaching olympic style, but it permeates all layers archery has to offer. Have you thought about making a DVD or an exlusive website with a comprehensive guide? I think it would help so many people out.
I recently started using an anchor point at the back edge of my jaw because my trainer said it's good for when I lated shoot long distances as a stringwalker. Does that sound like a good plan?
+Sutra Stevens I'm sure NuSensei will chime in too, but I also shoot traditional and have for a long time, so I figured I would add my opinion. When you are just learning, consistency is very important because it teaches and reinforces correct form. Wherever you choose to anchor, it needs to be consistent. I assume your instructor is trying to reduce the parallax that was mentioned in the video (the difference between the angle of the arrow and the angle of the arrow tip and your eye). I've never used a stringwalking method before, but I would assume the height of the anchor point (cheek bone, mouth, chin) would be more important than how far back it was drawn (mouth, cheek, jaw).
Hey NuSensai. I just had a session at home and my consistency was pretty... not consistent. It might have just been a bad session but I think I had some form issues, so I'm re-thinking my corner-mouth anchor point for the chin anchor. I don't yet have a sight and I don't know when I will get one. I noticed you said the chin anchor is ideal when you have a sight as you correct for the gap between arrow and eye. I know this is a subjective question, but is the chin anchor still viable without a sight? Cheers, M
Thanks. That's an interesting trade off to balance. I'll try to transition to it and see how I adjust to the change in aiming. From what I've learned, it seems that consistency wins out as the more important component of a shot.
Trad instinctive archer myself but a solid anchor point is crucial! good shooting boils to: good stance back tension repeatable anchor focus clean release and practice
i shoot with a low anchor point(olympic style) but i dont know where i suppose to put my thumb, its okay if i use my thumb to complete the gap in my jaw line? (i dont put it behid the neck, i put in the jaw-neck gap)
I also use a low anchor these days (thanks, compound bow lol) whether it is with fingers or with a hand-held release, I anchor with my index finger running along the bottom of my jaw. my thumb, on the other hand, is pressed to the back of my jaw, where there is a nerve running around the back of the jaw. since it is a rather sensitive area, it is quite easy to tell if you are in the right position. with my thumb touching the nerve/back of jaw, and my finger running along the bottom of my jaw, I have a very consistent anchor; more so than when I anchored higher and/or farther forward on my face.
You need to work on identifying and using the contact points. Having someone watch you, or recording yourself, will allow you to see where you are drawing.
Hey, I am shooting barebow with a 3under grip. I am anchoring at the corner of my mouth but im using the middle finger do you see any problems by doing so. Best regards from Austria.
@NUSensei thx for reply ,sir.may I ask one more question ? I'm new learner for recurve bow...I can play 24pound bow and got 80% to the 9 marks ,but when my bow is broken I change to a lower power with 16 pound recurve bow ,my result dramatically drop .I can not hit the yellow side ....what the hell?
Hey I've been practicing archery for bout a few weeks now been watching your vid, for a couple days now but everytime I shoot my bow it's like my arrow, hits my bow and shoots to a totally different direction
That's a sucky situation to be in. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions to see if we or others can diagnose the likely issue? I'm fairly new myself but like to think I have a grasp of the basics.
It might be too late for my answer, but you should shoot with your left hand. It's much easier to train for left-hand-shooting, but almost impossible to change eye dominance.
I mainly shoot barebow, and am trying to branch out into shooting Olympic as well, but I find I get clearance problems when going to the chin anchor. I get a lot of contact between the string and my chest, which never happens when I use a corner of the mouth anchor. Anyone else experienced this?
Lee Price I just saw another video that touched on this. It could be that you are not squared up with the target, meaning co pletely to the side, perpendicular to the target. Women with much larger chests can do it so you can too! Im just learning right now but maybe have someone check your form, back alignment, shoulders...al that. Best of luck to you.
As Jackstand has already identified, you may want to think about your stance. Opening your stance will improve string clearance. You may also want to look at whether you are arching your back too much and puffing your chest out. Otherwise, you may want to consider using a chest guard so that you have a smoother surface for the string to slide off.
Thanks for the reply, to yourself and Jackstand. I will take this advice on board during practice. I'm just curious as to why this is not a problem for me when I am using the corner of the mouth anchor
All Olympians shoot with the under the chin anchor point? My anchor point is the corner of my mouth. Is the under the chin position really that much better?
The chin anchor is better because it provides more reference points (chin, lips, nose). The use of the sight compensates for the gap between eye and anchor. If you're using a sight, there's no advantage to using a corner-mouth anchor.
I shoot an Olympic style 38# recurve bow. Another important advantage I found to using the lower chin anchor point, is that it makes it possible to adjust the sight down enough for longer distances. For me, when shooting out to 70 meters, if the anchor point is at the corner of the mouth, the sight can't be lowered far enough without risk of the arrow hitting it.
hey,i was wondering if you can help,this really doesn't have anything to do with ur video ..i have been shooting 70 m for quite a while now,unfortunately i just can't get the arrow where i want it to be,my score is terrible,to make things worse i have a competition coming up around next week,can you please give me some advice..?thank you..
I'll give you some advice. You need to move up from 70 m to like maybe 50 m and work on your accuracy. You say you can't get the arrow where it needs to go and your score is terrible. You aren't accurate at 70 m and if you continue to shoot at that distance it will not help you.
I enjoy your videos very much. I would suggest that you get something for a photographic background. You could pick one up at a photo supply or just get a big piece of dark colored carpet or rug. It needs to be dark so you will stand out as the main subject. Your backgrounds look too junky to me. Keep up the good work.
This is without a doubt the most descriptive and most comprehensive video I have seen regarding the anchor. This and the back tension video you made recently have helped me tremendously in improving my form. Keep up the amazing work!
Best archery videos on youtube hands down, keep on doing this great job!
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help me make it through the nite
I asked one of our trainer to make a video while I’m shooting as I struggle with consistency. Was quite good to see that at times I move my head into the anchor position. Slightly but visible. Another issue they mentioned, and now I saw, just before release my right hand move a short bit to the front before fully release impacting the draw length consistency. I saw this video before and thought: oh yeah, beginner faul. And what ? I’m beginner and do the same. Need to work on that one and get rid of it. Thanks for your videos, Nu-先生. They are a great resource.
You made some very good points in this video. Your explanation of parallax for bare bow traditional was spot-on. You also touched one of my personal issues: hand angle. I always anchor to the same spot, middle finger on the corner of my mouth, with pointer and ring finger touching above and below, but I can be inconsistent with my hand angle unless I pay attention to it. If you get sloppy, that very slight bend in the string can become several inches by the time the arrow reaches the target.
I wonder how many neophytes noticed that/how the "hand angle" was impacted by the position of the elbow which affected the angle of the forearm which affected the hand...
I started doing archery here in Ukraine, but I don't always understand what the coach tells me. I watch your videos and they give me some nice tips to do during training when I'm not too sure what I should be doing
Thanks for the video. Very good explanation. I do especially like, that you draw the attention to the „little“ possible mistakes, too. That is very valuable for a beginner like me. And of course, thanks for your other videos! I very much appreciate your work.
I began shooting barebow with the anchor as you describe, finger at the corner of the mouth, for me jaw closed, not clenched, mid finger contacting the eye tooth. I soon realized that consistently, my index knuckle was at my cheek bone with my thumb knuckle at the back corner of my jaw bone- 2 repeatable pts of reference. Overtime I realized that that the string to nose and lips contact that I observed in other archers was possible without tweaking form-
4 repeatable pts of ref 👊 bamm, gift of my DNA, face shape and hand size 😎🎯
Only been shooting for a few weeks and just wanted to say that I really appreciate your videos. Watched this last night and tried it today and can already feel a world of difference. Thanks for all your archery videos!
Best thing I've seen for beginners. Great detail!
Excelente explicação!! Realmente uma aula!! Parabéns NUSensei!!
This is a fantastic review of anchor points! Well done NUS!
I'm a beginner and shoot a 40# Bear Montana long bow. This instruction helped me very a whole lot - thank you !
Very helpful advice on form as well as parallax. If you could do a whole video on just parallax - including when the target itself is below or above eye level - that would be great. Thanks again from India!
I love reviewing your videos after a shoot.. it helps me realize where I went wrong. :) My anchor point was way to far back and I was shooting something too small, too far, too soon :)
Thank you NuSensei! :D
You are awesome! And your videos are so clear and descriptive... Thank you 😎
I'm new to archery. Learning so much on your channel. Thank you
Very clear explanation! It let me learn when play archery 😊
I've solved my anchor point problems by using two anchor points, the tip of my nose and a kisser button.
Now I've just got all my other form problems to deal with.
“Don’t open your mouth during the process.” That made me laugh out loud. 👍😁
I couldn’t get my nose to touch the string. Really stressing about it. And my fingers wound hurt like hell. But the bow was to small, thanks to that observation, I got bigger limbs and it makes such a difference. Thanks!!!
Personally I used to anchor like most of the instinctive shooters, however I changed it to the olympic atyle. I shoot without sights, but I changed my anchor for a few reasons which I can't write all of them now, but underneath the jaw the arrow is at the same raw with the eye, so I have much less side misses. Still I have hight misses, and I am working on this. Thanks for the video
Be careful of your shirt someone might mistake it as a target
Danny Deko lol
Lol 🤣
I'd shoot that.
Thanks, this was very helpful!
Merci pour tous ces bons conseils.
There are some styles that doesn't use an anchor point per say. drawing past the ear for instance like what mongolian archers often did doesn't seem to have a reference to easily anchor at except for maybe having the string somewhere on the face
By the same token, if one aims with one eye closed (like me), the anchor points need to be in a vertical straight line that passes the open eye. That's why mouth corner is a common anchor point: the mouth corner usually aligns with your pupil. If you don't do this, however, it may cause horizontal offset if you shoot long distance.
Thanks for this video!! I dont use sights and use a recurve so I use the high position with top of thumb in corner of my lips
Well explained.
Now I know what I'm looking for as a noob
I like your videos. very clear and very helpful... keep up the good work. thanks a lot
Thank you for the tip no wonder why i miss my target thanks NUSensei XD
Great teacher !
Thanks for another informative vid
Great video! Your channel has really helped me out a lot! I'm a beginner compound bow shooter, a 65lb draw with ~75% let off, that I evetually want to hunt with. What is the poundage of the bow you are using in this video? And what is your go to bow and for fun? I want to get into recurve target shooting, looking for a good starting point.
Hi I have recently bought a Left handed recurve bow. I am more accurate anchoring on the right side of my face, instead of the left hand side, as I am supposed to do. Advice, should i do what suits me or should i be more traditional and practice left hand face anchoring.
What about a three under shooter? It feels as of the arrow will get caught between fingers and jaw line, yet going split fingers at short distances jncreases the gap significantly and I am not sure I like it, yet I do feel more comfortable and my shooting improves with the under the chin method but I feel I am not able to make much contact with my face, in fact I focus more on the back tension and the string touching my nose and mouth but as to my hand, I still dont know how to find a solid contact point on my jaw line
thanks brilliant video learnt a lot...
I notice that when you anchor in the corner of the lip you move your hand up slightly, is there a reason for this? Is this maybe because (No offense meant, sorry if it does offend you) you are somewhat shorter? Thanks for the great vids, they've been really helpful
No offense taken, but height doesn't affect how you anchor. I separate my draw, load and anchor steps so that I have the right back tension before going into the anchor. The movement is just me completing my draw and firmly going into the anchor point.
NUSensei Ah that makes sense, thanks for the reply and keep up the good work!
Just wondering, is the anchor point under the chin also possible for traditional recurve? It feels much comfortable for me, or is it more a method for someone using olympic recurve with sight?
Hello Nu Sensei.
This is HFava from Brazil.
I enjoy all yours begginers videos. Since im a begginer :)
Could you give one advice? Should I aim with one or two eyes opened. I did bought a 28lb bow. As my Sifu recommended. I can (in some way) reach the target at 15m consistenly. But I still have these question in my mind.
I'll have another class only on saturday morning. However, during the week, I can pratice safetly in my place
Thanks in advanced.
Henrique Fava
great video - tidy your garage!!
Best video
thanks this helped me:)
I use smaller bows and have long arms. It is very difficult getting the bow string to an anchor point. I prefer the small bows as they are easier to transport. Do you have any recommendations other than get a new bow?
My reaction is IDENTICAL to that of F2V2 (below). The other videos on this subject simply aren't as clear and/or comprehensive, either in their explanations or their footage. Thank you! Are you by any chance available for personal coaching (compensated, of course) via Zoom or similar platforms-or perhaps by emailed video footage? I have watched a lot of your instructionsl videos, but I've never seen any direct reference to coaching. Please let me know!
Do you have any more content for archers shooting traditional recurve and longbows using the cheap anchor point?
good explanation
I am a barebow archer, And I am using the canine ..is it wrong? because if I anchor under the jaw I have to string too much at 10 mt
Sorry I’m late to the video, I’ve recently just found your channel and am watching all your uploads.
My “coach” tells me to have a behind the mouth anchor when shooting barebow with the three under technique. I didn’t know if this was correct because it wasn’t really mentioned in the video?
Thank you 🙂
I've been a barebow archer for 28 years, but having to take to recurve, with all the bells and whistles because of short term memory loss (which also affects where I string walk, and my point of aim - not good!). My problems are:- longer than usual arms, and glasses, so: I can't get the string to my chin AND my nose, without my elbow being out of position (according to a coach in my club). I also look 'up', so that I can focus through my glasses... any idea if there's something I can do differently?
Hello nusensei, thank you very much for all your videos! I'm exploring diferent anchor points for instinctive shooting. I find the corner of the mouth to be the most accurate for me, but the string often pinches my cheek, and hurts. At an archery club they told me that i should use "three-below" for this anchor point, and the problem indeed is fixed. But i would like to use the corner of the mouth with "one-above, two-below", as it seems more natural to me. Do you have any sugestions to solve the string pinching the cheek with this technique?
NUSensei - what do you think of anchor point markers? I have seen some of the Korean girls using them at the Olympics.
Thank you very much
what bow are you using? is it a fiberglass one?
I've been shooting recurve for nearly 3 years but in the last year I have had (and still battling) a bad case of target panic. In my case i'm finding it a struggle to get to my full anchor point, as far as I'm aware the string is touching my nose, my string hand is positioned under my chin but the kisser button hardly touching my mouth. Also I find it tricky to hold for a few secs without flinching and end up just letting it go without getting into the proper form.
I know one tip is getting someone to film/record you shooting but in the long run it's all well for that as the problem for the archer to try and overrun the brain/thoughts i.e thinking of the thought of proper form, reference points, holding on for a few secs etc...
I would dearly appreciate some advice.
If you are unable to hold at your anchor, are you overbowed?
Good question, I dunno to be exact. It wasn't something that I had thought about before but I am planning to get someone to video me shooting so I can see for myself
Personnaly, i use jaw anchor in instinctive archery, i teach instinctive archery like that to my students. It's a little harder the first ten arrows, after it doesn't make any difference.
Me: sees target on shirt
Also me:*slowly pulls back string*
Love you videos😍. Away from other comments subject (and video itself), I'm not your father but what's that mess in the corner behind you? 😉
Great video! Explains high shots...hey I feel most comfortable with using my chin as an anchor...more consistent shot placement and all...is that taboo for recurve bows? Would I look like a douchebag (more so than usual) if I went to range and used chin as anchor? Thanks
Not at all. The chin anchor is more consistent, but harder to aim with a barebow. If you can make it work, use it.
anchor point is the hardest part of archery imo
+social3ngin33rin I find the release more difficult in my experience. I anchor at the corner of my mouth shooting barebow traditional and anchor kinda just comes naturally for me
I have trouble because I don't like traditional anchor points so consistency is harder :(
for me it's mostly a consistency issue
Ok, youve just made me want a sight even more than before. I was looking at a 3 pin hunting style sight because the smaller profile and ease of use. Would you advise against this and instead recommend a traditional olympic recurve target sight instead?
This depends on your purpose. The 3-pin hunting sights are useful for hunting because you can pre-set several distances so that you can acquire a target at any distance and estimate the correct point of aim with the right pin. However, calibrating the sight requires you to use a hex wrench to move the pins. While this is fine for having pre-set distances, it is not very good for when you have to shoot from different distances as a target shooter would. Additionally, the "cluttered" sight picture from having multiple pins can make it harder to aim compared to a single pin sight.
hey nusensei,
maybe a noobie question but can you change your sight dot for a other one because my old one broke?
Yes. You can buy replacement apertures from most pro shops.
Small question Nu, you were talking about the under the jaw anchor for people using sights. Now I've found that's a great spot for me seeing as the tab I use has a ledge that i really like, and I've found your anchor and mine are very similar, yet I shoot instinctive and no sights. I really don't plan on using sights, so would you suggest trying to lift the anchor up closer to my mouth to improve accuracy? Or should I just stick with what I've built and not fix what isn't broken?
Stick with what works for you. Consistency is the key; don't change just because you want to be orthodox. If there's a reason to change, it would be because you might find it harder to sight using a barebow method. Instinctively, if you can feel where the arrow is going to go, then your choice of anchor doesn't matter that much.
Good advice, I tell you what, i've watched your videos for about 2 months now, and I pretty much owe you a thanks because I have followed your instruction to borderline obsessiveness, and that has brought my groupings into a 3 inch ring. I'm actually trying not to break nocks now, and i'm not even using sights. You might be teaching olympic style, but it permeates all layers archery has to offer. Have you thought about making a DVD or an exlusive website with a comprehensive guide? I think it would help so many people out.
Not something I'm planning on doing anytime soon. I'll stick to my day job for now.
I recently started using an anchor point at the back edge of my jaw because my trainer said it's good for when I lated shoot long distances as a stringwalker. Does that sound like a good plan?
+Sutra Stevens I'm sure NuSensei will chime in too, but I also shoot traditional and have for a long time, so I figured I would add my opinion. When you are just learning, consistency is very important because it teaches and reinforces correct form. Wherever you choose to anchor, it needs to be consistent. I assume your instructor is trying to reduce the parallax that was mentioned in the video (the difference between the angle of the arrow and the angle of the arrow tip and your eye). I've never used a stringwalking method before, but I would assume the height of the anchor point (cheek bone, mouth, chin) would be more important than how far back it was drawn (mouth, cheek, jaw).
Hey NuSensai. I just had a session at home and my consistency was pretty... not consistent. It might have just been a bad session but I think I had some form issues, so I'm re-thinking my corner-mouth anchor point for the chin anchor. I don't yet have a sight and I don't know when I will get one. I noticed you said the chin anchor is ideal when you have a sight as you correct for the gap between arrow and eye. I know this is a subjective question, but is the chin anchor still viable without a sight?
Cheers,
M
Yes, the chin anchor works without a sight. The downside is that it is harder to aim. It is, however, generally most consistent.
Thanks. That's an interesting trade off to balance. I'll try to transition to it and see how I adjust to the change in aiming. From what I've learned, it seems that consistency wins out as the more important component of a shot.
What happens if you have a full beard, can the string get caught in the beard (or vice versa) ?
Que bueno subtitulos en español ahora si podre entenderte
tnx sensei
Trad instinctive archer myself but a solid anchor point is crucial!
good shooting boils to:
good stance
back tension
repeatable anchor
focus
clean release
and practice
i shoot with a low anchor point(olympic style) but i dont know where i suppose to put my thumb, its okay if i use my thumb to complete the gap in my jaw line? (i dont put it behid the neck, i put in the jaw-neck gap)
I also use a low anchor these days (thanks, compound bow lol) whether it is with fingers or with a hand-held release, I anchor with my index finger running along the bottom of my jaw. my thumb, on the other hand, is pressed to the back of my jaw, where there is a nerve running around the back of the jaw. since it is a rather sensitive area, it is quite easy to tell if you are in the right position. with my thumb touching the nerve/back of jaw, and my finger running along the bottom of my jaw, I have a very consistent anchor; more so than when I anchored higher and/or farther forward on my face.
very like
How do you avoid over drawing especially for someone just starting to settle on a good anchor point?
You need to work on identifying and using the contact points. Having someone watch you, or recording yourself, will allow you to see where you are drawing.
Thanks. I may not be able to do any of your two suggestions but I think I can come up with something else instead.
Hey, I am shooting barebow with a 3under grip.
I am anchoring at the corner of my mouth but im using the middle finger do you see any problems by doing so.
Best regards from Austria.
If it works for you, then it is good.
Can anyone tell me why the string keeps hitting my nose? I mean, my nose isn't even that big lol. Maybe I should tell less lies.
I am confused about the anchor point ....is it always under your chin? Can i put my hand on the side-face of chin?
The anchor depends on the style of archery. Olympic recurve favours under the chin; traditional styles go closer to the eye.
@NUSensei thx for your reply! Should everyone follow the Olympic champion 's style?(under the chin)
@NUSensei thx for reply ,sir.may I ask one more question ? I'm new learner for recurve bow...I can play 24pound bow and got 80% to the 9 marks ,but when my bow is broken I change to a lower power with 16 pound recurve bow ,my result dramatically drop .I can not hit the yellow side ....what the hell?
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I've never had formal training and so far my anchor has been touching my thumb to the back of my jaw is that ok or should i change my form?
As long as you can anchor consistently, use whatever works.
+NUSensei thanks a ton love your videos keep it up!
Hey I've been practicing archery for bout a few weeks now been watching your vid, for a couple days now but everytime I shoot my bow it's like my arrow, hits my bow and shoots to a totally different direction
That's a sucky situation to be in. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions to see if we or others can diagnose the likely issue? I'm fairly new myself but like to think I have a grasp of the basics.
What part of Australia do you live in?
I'm a left eye and right hand dominated without knowing I went ahead to buy a right hand rise.
Can I shoot on my left hand with a right hand riser?
It might be too late for my answer, but you should shoot with your left hand. It's much easier to train for left-hand-shooting, but almost impossible to change eye dominance.
Also you can shoot with a right-hand riser with left hand if you use thumb draw, but that's very uncommon.
I mainly shoot barebow, and am trying to branch out into shooting Olympic as well, but I find I get clearance problems when going to the chin anchor. I get a lot of contact between the string and my chest, which never happens when I use a corner of the mouth anchor. Anyone else experienced this?
Lee Price I just saw another video that touched on this. It could be that you are not squared up with the target, meaning co pletely to the side, perpendicular to the target. Women with much larger chests can do it so you can too! Im just learning right now but maybe have someone check your form, back alignment, shoulders...al that. Best of luck to you.
As Jackstand has already identified, you may want to think about your stance. Opening your stance will improve string clearance. You may also want to look at whether you are arching your back too much and puffing your chest out. Otherwise, you may want to consider using a chest guard so that you have a smoother surface for the string to slide off.
Thanks for the reply, to yourself and Jackstand. I will take this advice on board during practice. I'm just curious as to why this is not a problem for me when I am using the corner of the mouth anchor
thanks
I have a question about your sight, what scope are you using.
Titan
Thanks, I enjoy your channel. I've been learning a lot from you. Last question the scope is Titan Mico and what models.
I use the Titan Recurve. The Titan Micro is the same thing but smaller.
All Olympians shoot with the under the chin anchor point?
My anchor point is the corner of my mouth. Is the under the chin position really that much better?
Oh I see, I don't use a sight yet. Do you have a video for best recommended sight for a beginner Olympic style shooter?
The chin anchor is better because it provides more reference points (chin, lips, nose). The use of the sight compensates for the gap between eye and anchor. If you're using a sight, there's no advantage to using a corner-mouth anchor.
I shoot an Olympic style 38# recurve bow. Another important advantage I found to using the lower chin anchor point, is that it makes it possible to adjust the sight down enough for longer distances. For me, when shooting out to 70 meters, if the anchor point is at the corner of the mouth, the sight can't be lowered far enough without risk of the arrow hitting it.
thx for instructions gj
hey,i was wondering if you can help,this really doesn't have anything to do with ur video ..i have been shooting 70 m for quite a while now,unfortunately i just can't get the arrow where i want it to be,my score is terrible,to make things worse i have a competition coming up around next week,can you please give me some advice..?thank you..
I'll give you some advice. You need to move up from 70 m to like maybe 50 m and work on your accuracy. You say you can't get the arrow where it needs to go and your score is terrible. You aren't accurate at 70 m and if you continue to shoot at that distance it will not help you.
"the string won't hurt you" I now have a loose chunk of my nose in my hand..... I now know where/how not to anchor
can always count on hs mafaka
Why do you have that shoestring around your fingers in so many of your videos?
Finger Sling:
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may Allah guide you
I don't think I will ever wear a shirt with a target on it.
I've seen the cartoons.
I was watching ruclips.net/video/MwlSXa4Ay08/видео.html at 3:07 you can see Kang using a kisser button. How common is that? thx
It used to be more common in the 70s and 80s. Not so much these days.
that's not his garage, it's a green screen lol ;)
I enjoy your videos very much. I would suggest that you get something for a photographic background. You could pick one up at a photo supply or just get a big piece of dark colored carpet or rug. It needs to be dark so you will stand out as the main subject. Your backgrounds look too junky to me. Keep up the good work.
Am I the only person who has an anchor when your index finger is at the back of the ear