1 up 1 down - drop down pulley rig - David Draper inspired
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Sit back and prepare for a long one
I enjoy the interactions between the channel and its subscribers with all of the information shared. I recently had a series of messages and a letter from David Draper who then went on to send 3 variations of the pulley drop down rig. On closer inspection these rigs were beautifully made and well considered. I have tried them out and made my own versions covering light, medium and heavy set-ups. I hope you enjoy them as much as we do.
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Well done mate will give it ago on the Bristol channel 👍
@@chrisprouse3628 you might have to beef it up a little for the stronger tides.
Hi Mark, a great job making the rigs. It was very interesting! Malc will attempt to make some, as we are on long dark nights soon well from next week. He thinks it might take him all night to make one - 'cos he's not as fast as you. Keep the vids coming, great work!! Malc and Ann Lincs UK xx
Practice makes perfect. Focus and perfect your knots, attention to detail will pay back when on the beach using them. Better to get them right whilst comfortable at home and spend more time fishing on the beach. 🎣👍🏻
Really like the look of this rig Mark, great instructional video, and nice to see multiple options, will definitely be giving this one a go. Thanks for sharing buddy👍👍🎣🙏
Let us know how you get on, good or bad!
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Just made 2 to try, they do look rather good, many thanks for sharing 🎣👍👍
Just remember they do no suit all states of the tide and I would suggest a change to one of these at slack HW and the first hour of turn into the ebb. If you give one a go let us know how you get on, good or bad. 🎣👍🏻
@@seaangling I will indeed, hopefully Friday night 👍👍🎣🎣
miss these mark. we would all love to see you back
@@Lordofrings-p1d soon… 🎣
@@seaanglingAwesome to hear Mark. i check on your channel every so often to see if you've uploaded. glad your alive lol and looking to make more.
Nice to see you back out in your workshop. I've used rigs like the ones you tied a few few ago. Didn't have a lot of success. Hayho. Keep the videos coming
I think they only fish well at certain stages of the tide and with a bad experience people move on to something else. Pulleys, up and overs and flappers/clip downs tend to be top choices for most applications.
I would think they would be a good rig for chesil. Since I got my boat I haven't done much shore fishing. Though I still enjoy watching shore videos.
Hi my friend. Was just knocking up some Riggs that you make . Just made 3 of each of your arsenal of rigs . Love the videos. Tight lines
There’s nothing better on a relaxed Sunday than making rigs and dreaming plans for the next session…… other than going fishing 🎣👍🏻
Really enjoy your videos Mark, I’m glad you’re making them. I’m fishing Hull mid October with my dad, I’m going to try one of these. I’ve blanked the last 4 times fishing 😮
Only fish this rig at HW slack and the initial turn to EBB. Then swap to another type of baited rig. 1 hour maximum I would suggest.
Superb video Mark, really informative and delivered in a really accessible way. Love your attention to detail and the fact you welcome views from others. I use Oblivion for my hook snoods and think it is an excellent line and perhaps better value for money than Amnesia? Look forward to the next video, although I shall be watching this again several times!
Glad it was helpful! Some of the cost rises do seem inflated and a chance for some to add some extra profit. I have found that Gemini tackle varies wildly depending on where you source it and some lines also have a bigger variance in cost. More than ever it pays to shop around. I crammed a lot into this video and realise it won’t be for everyone.
Enjoyed the video Mark, great content.👍
I’m pleased you enjoyed it, I did cram a lot into this one. 🎣👍🏻
Hi Mark! Great video with lots of info thanks. Love your workshop Jibber Jabber videos - I've quite often gone back and watched some of them a few times thinking "what was it that Mark did?" Useful info about the Buffer Beads and the Silicone tubing.
I think I OD'd on RUclips last year - just not had the time for it this year, with 'stuff' going on, so way behind. Also cut my subscriptions back by over half, mainly folk who hadn't uploaded anything for 12 months or more.
Hope all is well with the family & work, tight lines, and stay safe & well - Dave. 🎣🎣👍👍
Hi Dave, my life is busy and packed with all sorts atm. Currently studying Yacht Master theory with Powerboat Advanced at the end of the month. Norway in November and lots in between. Not enough hours in the day and work gets in the way. 😉
Looking forward to the change of season and some time in the workshop with the log burner going although I have considered a diesel heater.
Tight lines and take care. 🎣👍🏻
@@seaangling Norway sounds interesting Mark - I see Billy Fishing has returned there after his other EU adventures! We're off across the channel in a few days to check up on our 'shack' - haven't been able to go over for 15 months, so wondering what we'll find. More RUclips missed to as no internet over there. Take care. 👍👍
Hi ya mark I love the rig you showed I tried it on my local beach in Norfolk it worked great thank you
Always nice to hear feedback and I’m pleased it worked for you. What hook size/bait did you use?
@@seaangling hi mark I used size 1/0 and bluey it worked well with whiting’dabs‘pollock dog fish
Bluey can be a killer bait as it gives out so much oil and scent. I like to keep mine as frozen as possible to make bait preparation easier.
Well I tested the, and they work very well, even on full flood. Had 3 thornback and 2 doggys. On it, and on my usual pulley only had 2 rays. Definitely a winner 👍🎣
Happy days. What bait did you use for the thornbacks, around here mackerel & squid works well. Did you hook up on the bottom hook snood?
@@seaangling yep rays on the bottom, dogs on the top, switched baits on the top between blacks tipped with squid, and sandeel . Squid and bluey wrap for the rays down here work very well, 👍👍🎣🎣🎣
@@daverees3079 as we expected so nice it did the job. I have another rig to show soon that I think you will like. I’m not teasing but a few tests and then I’ll film it.
@@seaanglingsounds good to me 👍👍👍🎣🎣🎣🎣
I only this this morning I was looking forward to the workshop video's 👍🍿
Workshop videos will start once the clocks change and we go to winter time. I can then fire up the log burner and talk rubbish. 😉🎣
That looks a cracking rig, I shall make a few for my next comp, 3 hooks, 1 rod, that will do the job nicely, thanks 👍🎣
Have you seen the 3 hook flapper rig on the channel as well? That would be my go to rig for a comp with small hooks/baits.
Yes mate, made a few of them, all ready to go, many thanks, enjoy watching your channel 👍
I mainly fish Bristol Channel mix to rough ground
@@mikeseatherton8855 I fish mainly clean ground so do not usually need a rotten bottom. I’m guessing they are standard for your fishing?
@@seaangling yes rotten bottom is a must on some marks and work well when needed 👍
Just found you Mark, Really great Rigs and instruction is perfect, Thanks, and I will be applying these rigs myself this winter . Happy New Year from Cork
Hi Clive, I’m glad you find them useful. I do try to explain why I have done things in a certain way so that you can adjust the rig for your own use. I will be doing a new series on rigs in the New Year from a different perspective. They may help also. 🎣👍🏻
Great imfo mark good luck when you try them I’m going going to try them on my local beach in Norfolk
Please do! I’d love to hear about it and how you get on.
Mark iam new to your videos what iam seeing I like some great tips on rig tieing will be watching more that's for sure.
You are very welcome. Sometimes there is more benefit from the comments and if they are significant enough I do another video to capture them.
Great looking rig,I do use the loop rig version but will definitely give this a go 👍🏼
I think this is a slack water or ebbing tide rig to be most effective. 🎣👍🏻
Hi mark you ok. Every time we have a rainy day i sort my rigs out. All thw best from GRIMSBY
Best use of the time when weathered out and it’s not possible to wet a line. I’ve got to sit down and start preparing my rigs for Norway.
Great tutorial mark as always and good luck on your rigs
Cheers buddy, we’ll soon be into the shorter days and winter fishing. 🎣👍🏻
I Mark it's a great video you explain everything very well the only problem with pulley dropper rigs I always feel the hook length doesn't slide down to the bottom until you have hooked a fish. I think when the rig hits the water it slides up to the top and once there is a belly in the line it will stay at the top.
Unless you fish it at slack, rods high, downtide or on an ebbing tide. This rig isn’t suitable for all places/tide.
I only have one comment mark and that's no comment great video. 👍
Perfect, my job here is done. 😂😉👍🏻
Thanks for sharing 🙏
You are very welcome. 🎣👍🏻
Hello Mark, great tutorial video - just wondering if it would be possible to put diagrams with component positions and line lengths etc
It is a good point and one that I have considered but I try to show my reasoning so that users can adjust to suit their own locations or needs. A quick google search will show most rigs in a standard format. By explaining why I have chosen lengths, terminal tackle or hooks I hope it will encourage people to experiment and adjust rather than blindly following a picture/drawing. I hope that helps.
Hi Mark, can you use the hearing aid tube on all the tubing parts please.
It is best used for anything that needs protecting or holding off. It can’t be used as a stop knot.
Hello mate, was wondering whether there was anywhere I could get a hold of you to ask a few questions on targeting skate up by loch Aline :) just a few of us from southy are wanting to go up to target some. Videos always bring joy mate tight lines
I’m on Facebook and Instagram, easily contacted on either.
Hi
My feelings are that rigs with loose snoods ,as soon as they unclip by hitting the water,slide up to the top of the rig body .
They never slide down again while fishing ,because of current-tidepull.
Meaning both snoods lay over each other,while fishing on the seabed.
Untangling when winding in,and gives a wrong idea how the rig fishes
Maybe I’m wrong, I like fixed snoods,clipped,down or up and overdown
Hope someone understands my worries about flying up snoods wich never slide down when fishing .
100% mate, more of a slide up rig than a drop down unless fished in a none tidal zone.
I didn’t cover use in the video as it was a pure making one. I totally agree with what you say and the use of this rig is very specific. I wouldn’t use it on a flooding tide or cast uptide for the reasons you mention. It can be a very good slack water or turn of the tide ebbing rig. Some underwater footage would be amazing to see how it lays out. The technique of drawing back after the cast as the rig drops through the water and straightening it out works to improve most rig presentations. It is an interesting point. 👍🏻
Great vid Mark, Could the rig be fished with a drilled ball weight above the cascade swivel to help push the snood back down once in the water?
Have you got any videos explaining which rigs to use in different states of the tide?
Vos montages sont magnifique et très bien expliqué dommage qu’il n’y ai pas un schéma de montage un dessin quoi merci beaucoup j’ai beaucoup appris
Merci d'avoir regardé et votre commentaire. J'essaie de tout montrer en détail mais je comprends qu'un dessin serait utile.
I made one looks great.but will the cast bend the cascade
I’m interested to hear how you get on with the one you made.
Hi mark what’s your view on using 60lb braid no shock leader fishing from the beach many thanks mate. Paul
Using braid straight through with no shock leader is possible on a fixed spool reel. There are some considerations with that though. Although there is no knot to a leader, braid does hold and attract some types of weed. This can be worse than mono which doesn’t grip it in the same way. Braid has very little abrasion resistance which doesn’t suit some areas. You will need to keep the line wet to avoid wind knots. I have fished braid straight through and prefer mono/shock leader.
@@seaangling thank you mark I think I will try what you say as it can be a problem with floating weed where I fish thanks again
Let me know how you get on and what shock-leader knot you settle on.
I wonder if a light version of this would be good for shore fishing in the med?
Light or no tides in the med so quite possibly. I would consider changing from a “J” pattern hook to small circle or octopus hooks. Lighten the whole rig down to suit. Worth a try and I’d be interested to hear how you get on.
Hi do you sell rigs
@@DerekThomas-Davies-rb4gl sorry but I don’t sell rigs, I hardly have the time to make my own sometimes. 😂
Am disabled and fish around west wales the video you posted shows a number of rigs am interested in
We have lots of hounds
Bass flats etc the one up and down look the part
@@seaangling I understand that’s keep the good work up m8
@@DerekThomas-Davies-rb4gl I like to use a short pulley or the up and over for hounds.
You go on to much when making rig about how thick the swivel wire is on the swivel
Just put the swivel on. You take too long.
@@grahamhaury1421 my apologies. Consider myself corrected.
Hi Mark, what’s the link for the hearing aid tubing and what size is it 2 mil? Thanks in advance, great video.
I believe it is a standard size and the links change all of the time. Type hearing aid tubing into Amazon and take your pick. 👍🏻