For the wraith whip part, he´s not joking. a wraith has another part of itself called the shadow, which is the worst parts of yourself haunting you in every decision. In game another player plays the part of the shadow and will try to undermine you in every way.
while it can be done by another player for fun ingame interactions, i think its usually better to leave that to the DM since the shadow has access to... others ressources/informations that just should'nt be available to any of the players.
My favorite story I have heard about the ridiculousness of WoD combat is the story of a Vampire wiping out an entire SWAT team and when he was notified that the only witness was a house cat, he tried to kick it. He missed and because claws are aggravated damage (Guns to vampires are Bashing) the cat proceeded to mess him up and he barely got away. The cat then became a recurring character for the game.
Three to six people with shotguns is absolutely a threat to most things, except some of the most OP of bull WoD has to offer- the Ravnos Antediluvian got hit with a whole army and was nuked and even that didn't kill him, but it was enough for mages to hold him down long enough for the sun to do the rest, and Caine is two levels above that. Unless we're talking about really high level mages, some of the strongest werewolves, Antediluvians or Mathuselahs, etc. a squad of guys with shotguns is likely gonna rip it a new one... Vampires, Werewolves, etc. have the potential to be ludicrously powerful, but if you're a low generation, low level vamp a shotgun blast to the chest will be wraps for you, unless you invested some points into fortitude to only have it seriously mess you up, but not outright put into torpor after two slugs to the ribs IF the dice are on your side that day.
"high generation. 13 is high, 3 is low. Also, that's not what happened with the Ravnos Antediluvian. The Technocracy attacked him for about a week straight by using satellite arrays to reflect and enhance sunlight on him 24/7, while the entire Ravnos clan attacked him in both melee and using their Chimestry and other Disciplines (the melee thing was short, especially since they had to block out the sky, and that gave him license to nom on his childer and regain blood), and the mages finished him off with a spirit nuke. The only reason he was even defeated was because he was in a constant frenzy, and thus didn't have the presence of mind to just will the satellites out of existence with his Chimestry.
@@marmyeater been ages since i read that event timeline and it was the one from 3rd edition (could have a different one in 20th anniversary or 5th if mentionned). But i remember most keypoint to be different. - Zapathasura (yes that was his/her/its name, no i didnt remembered it, google told me) was AWAKE for a week (the week of nightmare) but he didnt fight that whole time. Only the last 3-4 days i think, it did took some time for technocrat/kuei-jin to mobilize enough personnel to meet THAT in open battle. - The Technocracy were the 3rd party in that fight. 1st was the ravnos, 2nd was the Kuei-Jin (motsly 3 of their equivalent of 4th generation methuselat). What awoke Zapathasura in the first place was the death of one of his direct child, himself was awoke by the smell of the blood spilled by of vast amount of dead thin-blood created as shock troops to battle the nearby kuei-jin opponent (the battle was at first regionnal between the kuei-jin from china and the ravnos from india and ended with ravnos death in Bangladesh). - Both Ravnos and the Kuei-Jin being weak vs the sun, Ravnos created a vast tempest (a hurricane in this case) to shield them from the sun. That did bothered the technocracy to no end as they could not get precise targeting coordinates and prevented them to send enough force on location for a while (i remember mentions from the ravnos clanbook of bombing run of the area and "yes captain, this is a suicide mission"). - On the last day of that tragic week, Technocratic high command lost patience and took a page out of Joseph Staline book's :"Quantity has a quality of its own"... that spirit bomb you mentionned (wich also happenned to be nuclear by the way) was not a single and precise event... they carpet bomb the center of the storm. That attack killed the 3 Kuei-Jins, hurted Ravnos like crazy and interrupted his use of chemistry that was mentainning the hurricane going (he might have run out of blood too or got pulled out of frenzied by the disappearance of his 3 nemesis). - Even in broad daylight, weaken and most likely heavely irradiated, Ravnos was still standing... until the technocracy finally got a lock on him and use a handfull of mirror arays in orbit to concentrate the ray of the sun sevenfold on the ancient leech. Truly they are the only faction in WOD that can bring that amount of "F*** THAT THING SPECIFICALLY" on the battlefield. - To be fair to all the ancient bloodsucking creatures that had boots on the ground during that battle. What were the odds of them even being aware of the exitence of orbital weapon... or i dunno, space in general? Can chemistry work in space? Hell, i want one younger vampire raise that point during one of their big general assembly thing (wich i cant remember the name): "guys, we need to keep in mind at all time the position of the internationnal space station... they could look out a window and see us brake the masquerade from orbit whenever we do some truly over-the-top-bulls*** on the ground".
Kuei-jin is what Marcus said Big D said they were just bunch of larpers from LA(note: bloodlines is set in LA) :D they are from what I understand basically from book called "Kindred of the East" which isn't really considered canon anymore (they are basically asian "not vampires" from book that kinda treats all asian cultures as if they were interchangable)
I didnt know they ever stopped being cannon, when/where did that happen? The name "Kindred of the East" come from surface observation from western protagonist: they need blood to survive and wither under the ray of the sun... so some kind of vampire right? also they all come from asia. What they truly are is a mix between vampire and wraith as they died with unfinished business and were sent back into their body to figure out what they failed previously (very much talking out of very old memories here, feel free to correct/fill the blank). thing is, they can only do this second (un)life in the dark thing because of asian culture that revolve around reincarnation. Literally they cannot breed/embrace new Kuei-Jin into undeath. A dead guy get a chance to be reborn as long as he leave some unbalanced karma behind AND he had some belief on reincarnation. Some Kuei-Jin have started to spawn on the US west coast because of long time Asian Immigration there wich inevitably brought their culture there with them... but this really recent.
@@oliviernaud4373 I could be wrong, I did hear that they got small mention somewhere recently, but either way there was large time they apparently weren't mentioned at all
@@oliviernaud4373 It didn't 'officially' stop being canon, but much like Demon: The Fallen people disliked the lore so much and the people in charge didn't want to even publish a 20th anniversary version to clean it up that it faded into a background of: acknowledge it or don't, and the power systems themselves are just as compatible as every other one, for pretty much everyone involved on both sides of the dollar.
@@marmyeater Yup. It was one of those things White Wolf did a long time ago and it didn't age well at all. Kinda like some of the more... out there parts of the 40K lore. You can tell it was written in the 80's/90's right away.
Wraith: You have attachments, and you aren't letting go. The BEST CASE (TM) is to process your trauma, and move on into another...whatever. There's a door you can't get past. Be it, heaven, reincarnation, etc. There is a black miasma hole trying to obliterate everything ... try not to get ripped apart. Also, you play a character, and another at the table is the dark doppelganger that is like...every intrusive thought now as a person. Who has your face. And knows all your passwords. And really doesn't like you because you are in the way. They fight is between you, and you. Which wins? And by wins, I mean gets to move on. Or not, maybe the dark side of you just keeps taking advantage of others to keep here because they can't process or let go. So they throw everyone else under the bus.
Yes, the “shots for the shotty brigade” has been done several times, usually as a Pink Mohawk hunter campaign, but i have also seen it as couple types of vampire clan new idiot college bro groups, a werewolf pack, and even once as a flock of fey with blunderbusses… that one still scares me a bit actually…
Yea the unofficial patch is basically required to play its because it’s a very old game and isn’t very compatible with modern systems It also fixes balance issues and bugs, it even added a lot of the cut content.
12:30 Exploding Dice, my dude. It’s a D10 system, and getting a 10 means a success AND you roll again. And if you get another 10, you roll again…and possibly more than that until you don’t roll another 10. From MY experience playing New WoD, shotguns get exploding 8’s (or was it exploding 9’s?) in a certain range, where the same “Add one success and roll again” rule applies to 30 percent of any possible dice rolls. (8-10) When you get those rolls in with someone whose luck is ridiculous, that damage stacks up VERY, VERY QUICKLY. Hunter the Reckoning’s catchphrase is basically, “You’re a sheep among wolves. But you’re a sheep with a shotgun. Baahhh baahh, _bitch.”_
It sometimes can be but that's mostly the older systems in World of Darkness. Old system: roll your d10s, and any that come up 10 you roll another d10 until you stop getting 10s. Newer system: roll your d10s, and if you roll a 10 with something you specialize in it counts as 2 successes. In both systems if you roll a 1 it subtracts from your highest die rolls first, so: potentially lose a success and bonus roll, or potentially lose 2 successes at once.
"only 3-6 shotguns is a threat to everything?" If you are a PC, probably. Unless you are really prepped, and have been playing (out of game) for years. PCs start at a power level typically that is butch, but not too butch. Ancient spirits of evil (tm) can transform your decayed form to Bob, the Ever Winning...but that takes a lot.
so at 6:35, that is an easter egg. The WoD people made "Black Dog Games" [originally a play on White Wolf] That sells rpgs in setting. They wrote themselves as terrible variations that were over the top and eviiilllll....{tm} Black Dog games were the satanic panic for the setting. Only it's really something to panic about, as they leave stuff in like snippets from the Necronomicon in their rpg books. For Edgeeee!!!1one Also they used black dog games for their smut and gross stuff irl. Yes, you read correctly...their smut stuff. Don't ask.
I remember reading a Black Dog splat book for VtM. Normally I'm not one to get shaken by disturbing imagery and descriptions, I was seriously creeped out, and felt violently disturbed and disgusted. I closed the book and put it back on the shelf, and never bothered to look in another book by Black Dog Publishing again.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC Black Dog did a lot of... questionable books. The best one was about the Holocaust called "Charnel Houses of Europe: The Shoah" which is considered by many tabletop nerds to be the best written book of any RPG but also one of the *most* depressing due to its content (One of the Authors are the descendants of Jewish people escaping Germany in 1936). This book shows the horrors of what happened during World War 2 in Wraith: The Oblivion. But it shows that World War 2 was 100% caused by humans and not other supernatural creatures, they just took advantage of what occurred. *spoilers lore* The death of so many people in World War 2 created a hellish malevolent storm in the Shadowlands (The Realm of the Dead) called the Fifth Great Maelstrom. A Great Maelstroms occurs only in times of great death and destruction in the our world. This event awakened the Malfean Spirit Gorool but also caused an excess of Oblivion itself to spread into our reality. (There are currently violent ghosts and spirits of corruption that are actively trying to harm people.) *First page introduction* "This book is dedicated to the survivors of the Holocaust, who have spent 50 years telling their stories. What you hold in your hands is a tribute to their perseverance and, in some small way, an attempt to carry on their legacy for the sake of the generations who will never know them. Todah raba."
@@RipOffProductionsLLC Black Dog did a lot of... questionable books. The best one was about the Holocaust called "Charnel Houses of Europe: The Shoah" which is considered by many tabletop nerds to be the best written book of any RPG but also one of the *most* depressing due to its content.
One of my players ran a Nos with a bangstick, a scuba weapon that loads a single shotgun shell onto a stick that goes off if you stab someone with it. He was very effective.
VTM bloodlines was, well to say it was unfinished by its devlopers is un fair. but it wasn't done cooking. thankfuly a number of the comunity rose up make the game more playable and their remains a decadented fan modding community
If you decide to get Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines I recommend you get the GOG version because it comes with some fan made patches baked in and Bloodlines is a very, VERY buggy game. I would also suggest looking up some good mods to further stabilize and maybe improve the graphics.
Bloodlines has mods, but the unofficial patch is a fan patch that adds cut content back into the game and fixes MANY bugs the devs didn’t, as the game didn't sell well at launch and was quickly abandoned.
Yes you can...technically kill a Garou with enough shotguns in WoD. It's the *Enough* part. ...and how butch they are. Combat is fast, twitchy and mean. Cheating to win (in this case I mean jumping people from behind, not slugging it out, running away, trapping etc., not fibbing dice) is the name of the game if you want to live long. You may be the thing that goes bump in the night. But the night bumps back hard. And there's always a thing with bigger sticks and more tentacles in the night.
@@CountDVB It sometimes can be but that's mostly the older systems in World of Darkness. Old system: roll your d10s, and any that come up 10 you roll another d10 until you stop getting 10s. Newer system: roll your d10s, and if you roll a 10 with something you specialize in it counts as 2 successes. In both systems if you roll a 1 it subtracts from your highest die rolls first, so: potentially lose a success and bonus roll, or potentially lose 2 successes at once.
Okay for mechanics the best (quick) way I can describe most WoD is this. Stats are (typically) 1 to 5. [1 being really bad 5 being like best ever] (Str/Dex/THiCCness Manipulationness/Charmingness/Hawtness Brainy smarts/Reading the room smarts/Thinking quick smarts) You have attributes that are 1 to 5. These would be your skills, training etc. (Drive, shoot, Medicine, Knowledge - obscure streaming skills to remember to press record vs stream live) Add a stat and an attribute. Dex (2) Drive (2) that is how many d10s you pick up. Storyteller tells you a dc (7) Roll Dex (2) + Drive (2) and count the 7s Those are the successes. 1 = success, more = more success. Typically combat is Vs, I roll and you roll and we see who gets more. The difference can be how bad I hurt you. If I roll 5 successes stabbing you with a taco bell spork, and you roll 2 successes on parrying the taco bell spork, you're getting sporked baby. At a difference of 3 (5-2). Which might mean more sporkage. That's basically mechanically all of WoD. The rest is just details. And magic splat. (Vampires get XXX, Mummies can YYY, Mages can ZZZ) etc.
The tabletop picture is an in game company called "Black Dog Game Factory" (White Wolf). They produce several game lines that parody the real game lines that White Wolf produces such as Revenant: The Ravishing (formerly Zombie: The Putrescence) (Vampire) Lycanthrope: The Rapture (Werewolf) Warlock: The Pretension (Mage) Spectre: The Annihilation (Wraith) Pixie: The Delusion (Changeling) Human: The Protagonist (Hunter) Fiend: The Pacting (Demon) Instead of World of Darkness the in game tabletop setting is called World of Shadows.
A legendary moment of my very first longer Vampire Campaign. A player wiped out an whole enemy faction by driving with an fuel tank truck into their headquarter and than blow the whole fuel up. It is one of the rules in Vampire I love the most. You can be as powerful as you want: Nothing saves you if anyone is crazy enough to decide to just ram you with an truck. I think that is the best way to do vampire combats. Not thinking in term of what special abilities you could use to destroy your enemy. Fights are far more dramatic if something unexpecting like that just happens.
Supposedly the VTMB videogame is finally having a proper sequel coming out soon, and since most of the original writing staff is supposedly back we can hope to maybe see a fully fleshed out and properly upgraded version with even better mechanics and such than the original. Fingers crossed
There Are rules for horrible lasting wounds and/or insanity, however they are optional, and some creatures can kinda just grow back missing limbs or rewrite brain issues… but its up to the DM as to which are used
In answer to your wondering about the sewers, It's infamously the worst part of the game, Long area with no blood to drain which you WILL need to do so if you haven't prepared enough you're screwed, Really hard to navigate, confusing and really repetitive so it's easy to get lost and hit dead ends all while dealing with a lot of combat. In a game that is otherwise excellent. Bad enough that I almost uninstalled it when I first played it (long before the unofficial patch) and led to many an annoyed person on gamespot. Thankfully an absolute saint when making the unofficial patch put in a shortcut that lets you skip the whole thing. If you ever play it, install the unofficial patch and skip the warrens you don't get xp for fights and theres no worthwhile loot, Spare yourself the frustration.
“Vampire The Masquerade” is a really good game. It allows you to customize your character with fully voiced characters reacting to how you look and talk, it has multiple endings, and yes your choices do matter, HOW AND WHY IS THIS GAME SO GOOD?… Because Its a game made in an era where good games where allowed to be made.
To be fair, Bloodlines is exactly how I got into the World of Darkness, so I understand the recommendation. It's a great intro into the world of Vampire the Masquerade especially, but also incorporates brief elements from Wraith, Hunter, and werewolf as well! You don't get much of a deep dive into the other three, but you're made aware of their existence within the wider, World of Darkness Universe. Completed the first playthrough wanting to know more, and discovered the tabletop RPG, sourcebooks, Card Games, and other video games like VTM Redemption, VTM Night Road, WTA Heart of the Forest, etc. It truly is a great starting point for anyone curious about the WOD Universe! -Just make sure your download at least the Unofficial Patch or Unofficial Patch Plus! There are also several Mods that use a version of the patch as a base. My personal fav being Clan Quest MOD, which is actually what my 1st playthrough was with. There are many others as well though like The Final Nights, Bloodlines: Antitribu, and the new Prelude Mod that's still in development. 🙂
I shared a number of Mr Welch's videos on WoD games in the discord, should help make sense of some of this...suppose I should also share the video about the Street Fighter RPG, since I think it was the same system. EDIT: Mispelling due to typing on phone.
5:09 - Shotguns are the most overpowered weapon in WoD. It's all about what type of shells you use: dragon's breath for vampires, silver for werewolves... 9:57 - Not really. The goal of Wraith is to unpack your unfinished business so you can move on to a better existence rather than to undo themselves. 14:57 - Oh yeah, Changelings can be REALLY broken if played right. 23:10 - Kuei-Jin... they're a FORM of vampiric undead that aren't related to vampires. They're... weird, we don't talk about them. 27:11 - Too bad, you get an answer :D . Mermaids are a form of Changeling in WoD. They, like their nightmare Merrow cousins, are aquatic and rarely interact with land folk. Weresharks, yes.
Don't worry, I know what you mean . . . I had a 100k point chaos undivided army back in 2e 40k . . . then the SoB came out . . . 40.3k point army of them (mostly Seraphim) . . . then my mom did a yard sale while I was at basic training . . . everything sold for $35 . . . yeah . . .
You can definitely run character rush, or even Tekken/Streetfighter/Mortal Kombat RPG in this system if you want to lol. Can be a fun way for people to test potential builds and get a feel of how their rolls work, then just have it be a dream/narcotics sequence haha
There's a running gag regarding VtM Bloodlines in online communities: every time someone mentions it, someone else reinstalls it Yes, it is that well received and remembered. It is *JANK* though, so I'd recommend the GoG version, as it comes with the fan made bugfixes built in. Also regarding the balance of rules: in my experience the more complicated it is the worse your time is going to be, as you can spend 4 real world hours resolving a fight that in game is less than 5 minutes. You just need a less combative GM
Yes roll for sucess you do atribute plus skill equils outcome eacj can have up to 5 dice a 1-5 points in atribute or 0-5 in skills or if u a over powered super bampire them u can have uo to 10 in a state or atribute but we dont tend to be able play those high level aincient vampires
25:35 The way he said Longinus is right. Assuming you only know it from Fate, the way you say it is like a latinized version of the Japanese pronunciation of a Greek word. This is not an uncommon phenomenon, it's to be expected when any European language is borrowed into Japanese, just by the virtue of the languages working so differently. For example, the word Aegis. As seen in both Fate and Persona, it's pronounced "i-gis", when in the original Greek it's supposed to be "ee-jus".
Hey Airier, didn't see a comment answering this one. But you sounded confused at 'polycule'. A polycule is a group who are all dating/married. Polyamory stuff. Think polygamy but without it necessarily being one man with everyone else married to/dating him, or think open relationships but the open part is more for more long term stuff. It's not common, but it's more common than you might think.
i played vampire the masquerade: bloodlines when it first came out in 2004 fun game but get the patch, base game is buggy but just the fact that what clan you pick can change how/what you can do in the game as in if your a Nosferatu you can't walk the streets without getting people running away calling the police but you can eat rats for blood or if you pick Ventrue you can do a form of mind control and other fun things but you can get sick from feeding from homeless or animals i think it has been a long time since i played it i would say play it
If you want to research lore of World of Darkness, be it the Classic World of Darkness, or the more recent Chronicles of Darkness, check out the channel Lazar of Stygia. He covers a lot of World of Darkness lore.
5:09 I don’t recommend using a shotgun against the werewolf generation is good enough to keep them together even for multiple shotgun shots. Trust me you do not wanna unload several rounds just to kill one werewolf you’re better off doing it with A. silver crossbow bolt pacifically because it will get stuck in them and kill them for the inside.
You should check out the other like 15 race/setting/however you want to view them books too, sadly many of them don’t get a lot of love, and some were nearly oneshots in detail level, but they are quite interesting, each one far different from the others, and yet, able to relate to the other monsters.
To me this says, make a task force with AA-12's as the GM's delete button. With Barret and Lynx rifles on the roofs. If that doesn't work, load frag 12 and MK 211 Raufoss.
I have nothing wrong with it, just don't know many good games to justify how expensive it is. That'll change over time. But not sure if it's worth it yet
Now, I may be trying to get you to start reacting to Seth Tzeentach videos again... but in this case I consider myself completely justified because he does have a video review for Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines that is really good and not too spoilery!
I will counter his statement of “nobody is immortal” with a couple builds i have written out… but generally yes, you are always a few bad rolls away from true death no matter what base you are, excepting the few i mentioned above haha.
Kuei-Jin are the focus of the _single worst_ World of Darkness gameline: Kindred of the East. It’s focused on the monsters and undead creatures of China and Japan… as seen through the lens of a bunch of theater kids in the 90s whose only exposure to Asian culture was martial arts movies. Uh-oh.
Play the game it's very fun the dude quests can be a a blast at times Stealth is a but buggy and some quests are a pain at times but overall it's a game you should play
For the wraith whip part, he´s not joking. a wraith has another part of itself called the shadow, which is the worst parts of yourself haunting you in every decision. In game another player plays the part of the shadow and will try to undermine you in every way.
while it can be done by another player for fun ingame interactions, i think its usually better to leave that to the DM since the shadow has access to... others ressources/informations that just should'nt be available to any of the players.
Wraith is basically the Diplomacy of Tabletop RPGS. You can play it with friends... but you might have less of them afterwards.
@@oliviernaud4373 See, that can work, until you have 4 or more players.
@@michaelbunting6162 Mario Party before Mario Party
One of the few instances where I actually prefer the Chronicles of Darkness equivalent.
My favorite story I have heard about the ridiculousness of WoD combat is the story of a Vampire wiping out an entire SWAT team and when he was notified that the only witness was a house cat, he tried to kick it. He missed and because claws are aggravated damage (Guns to vampires are Bashing) the cat proceeded to mess him up and he barely got away. The cat then became a recurring character for the game.
Karma
Three to six people with shotguns is absolutely a threat to most things, except some of the most OP of bull WoD has to offer- the Ravnos Antediluvian got hit with a whole army and was nuked and even that didn't kill him, but it was enough for mages to hold him down long enough for the sun to do the rest, and Caine is two levels above that.
Unless we're talking about really high level mages, some of the strongest werewolves, Antediluvians or Mathuselahs, etc. a squad of guys with shotguns is likely gonna rip it a new one...
Vampires, Werewolves, etc. have the potential to be ludicrously powerful, but if you're a low generation, low level vamp a shotgun blast to the chest will be wraps for you, unless you invested some points into fortitude to only have it seriously mess you up, but not outright put into torpor after two slugs to the ribs IF the dice are on your side that day.
"high generation. 13 is high, 3 is low.
Also, that's not what happened with the Ravnos Antediluvian. The Technocracy attacked him for about a week straight by using satellite arrays to reflect and enhance sunlight on him 24/7, while the entire Ravnos clan attacked him in both melee and using their Chimestry and other Disciplines (the melee thing was short, especially since they had to block out the sky, and that gave him license to nom on his childer and regain blood), and the mages finished him off with a spirit nuke.
The only reason he was even defeated was because he was in a constant frenzy, and thus didn't have the presence of mind to just will the satellites out of existence with his Chimestry.
@@marmyeater been ages since i read that event timeline and it was the one from 3rd edition (could have a different one in 20th anniversary or 5th if mentionned). But i remember most keypoint to be different.
- Zapathasura (yes that was his/her/its name, no i didnt remembered it, google told me) was AWAKE for a week (the week of nightmare) but he didnt fight that whole time. Only the last 3-4 days i think, it did took some time for technocrat/kuei-jin to mobilize enough personnel to meet THAT in open battle.
- The Technocracy were the 3rd party in that fight. 1st was the ravnos, 2nd was the Kuei-Jin (motsly 3 of their equivalent of 4th generation methuselat). What awoke Zapathasura in the first place was the death of one of his direct child, himself was awoke by the smell of the blood spilled by of vast amount of dead thin-blood created as shock troops to battle the nearby kuei-jin opponent (the battle was at first regionnal between the kuei-jin from china and the ravnos from india and ended with ravnos death in Bangladesh).
- Both Ravnos and the Kuei-Jin being weak vs the sun, Ravnos created a vast tempest (a hurricane in this case) to shield them from the sun. That did bothered the technocracy to no end as they could not get precise targeting coordinates and prevented them to send enough force on location for a while (i remember mentions from the ravnos clanbook of bombing run of the area and "yes captain, this is a suicide mission").
- On the last day of that tragic week, Technocratic high command lost patience and took a page out of Joseph Staline book's :"Quantity has a quality of its own"... that spirit bomb you mentionned (wich also happenned to be nuclear by the way) was not a single and precise event... they carpet bomb the center of the storm. That attack killed the 3 Kuei-Jins, hurted Ravnos like crazy and interrupted his use of chemistry that was mentainning the hurricane going (he might have run out of blood too or got pulled out of frenzied by the disappearance of his 3 nemesis).
- Even in broad daylight, weaken and most likely heavely irradiated, Ravnos was still standing... until the technocracy finally got a lock on him and use a handfull of mirror arays in orbit to concentrate the ray of the sun sevenfold on the ancient leech. Truly they are the only faction in WOD that can bring that amount of "F*** THAT THING SPECIFICALLY" on the battlefield.
- To be fair to all the ancient bloodsucking creatures that had boots on the ground during that battle. What were the odds of them even being aware of the exitence of orbital weapon... or i dunno, space in general? Can chemistry work in space? Hell, i want one younger vampire raise that point during one of their big general assembly thing (wich i cant remember the name): "guys, we need to keep in mind at all time the position of the internationnal space station... they could look out a window and see us brake the masquerade from orbit whenever we do some truly over-the-top-bulls*** on the ground".
Meanwhile the demons laugh
Kuei-jin is what Marcus said Big D said they were just bunch of larpers from LA(note: bloodlines is set in LA) :D they are from what I understand basically from book called "Kindred of the East" which isn't really considered canon anymore (they are basically asian "not vampires" from book that kinda treats all asian cultures as if they were interchangable)
I mean, it was certainly an original take at least
I didnt know they ever stopped being cannon, when/where did that happen?
The name "Kindred of the East" come from surface observation from western protagonist: they need blood to survive and wither under the ray of the sun... so some kind of vampire right? also they all come from asia. What they truly are is a mix between vampire and wraith as they died with unfinished business and were sent back into their body to figure out what they failed previously (very much talking out of very old memories here, feel free to correct/fill the blank).
thing is, they can only do this second (un)life in the dark thing because of asian culture that revolve around reincarnation. Literally they cannot breed/embrace new Kuei-Jin into undeath. A dead guy get a chance to be reborn as long as he leave some unbalanced karma behind AND he had some belief on reincarnation. Some Kuei-Jin have started to spawn on the US west coast because of long time Asian Immigration there wich inevitably brought their culture there with them... but this really recent.
@@oliviernaud4373 I could be wrong, I did hear that they got small mention somewhere recently, but either way there was large time they apparently weren't mentioned at all
@@oliviernaud4373 It didn't 'officially' stop being canon, but much like Demon: The Fallen people disliked the lore so much and the people in charge didn't want to even publish a 20th anniversary version to clean it up that it faded into a background of: acknowledge it or don't, and the power systems themselves are just as compatible as every other one, for pretty much everyone involved on both sides of the dollar.
@@marmyeater Yup. It was one of those things White Wolf did a long time ago and it didn't age well at all. Kinda like some of the more... out there parts of the 40K lore. You can tell it was written in the 80's/90's right away.
"Rushing down Yog-Sothoth with a blicky and a pocketful of dreams" is my new favorite sequence of words.
Wraith:
You have attachments, and you aren't letting go. The BEST CASE (TM) is to process your trauma, and move on into another...whatever. There's a door you can't get past. Be it, heaven, reincarnation, etc.
There is a black miasma hole trying to obliterate everything ... try not to get ripped apart.
Also, you play a character, and another at the table is the dark doppelganger that is like...every intrusive thought now as a person. Who has your face. And knows all your passwords. And really doesn't like you because you are in the way.
They fight is between you, and you. Which wins? And by wins, I mean gets to move on.
Or not, maybe the dark side of you just keeps taking advantage of others to keep here because they can't process or let go. So they throw everyone else under the bus.
Yes, the “shots for the shotty brigade” has been done several times, usually as a Pink Mohawk hunter campaign, but i have also seen it as couple types of vampire clan new idiot college bro groups, a werewolf pack, and even once as a flock of fey with blunderbusses… that one still scares me a bit actually…
Yea the unofficial patch is basically required to play its because it’s a very old game and isn’t very compatible with modern systems
It also fixes balance issues and bugs, it even added a lot of the cut content.
@@morgothable ... a very clunky and very flawed masterpiece. Almost 2 decades later, its still on my top 10 best of all time.
11:24- Mage. Vampire, Mage, and Werewolf are the Big 3 when it comes to World of Darkness.
Big 3 of "power". Hunter instead of mage for "adversity".
12:30 Exploding Dice, my dude. It’s a D10 system, and getting a 10 means a success AND you roll again. And if you get another 10, you roll again…and possibly more than that until you don’t roll another 10.
From MY experience playing New WoD, shotguns get exploding 8’s (or was it exploding 9’s?) in a certain range, where the same “Add one success and roll again” rule applies to 30 percent of any possible dice rolls. (8-10) When you get those rolls in with someone whose luck is ridiculous, that damage stacks up VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
Hunter the Reckoning’s catchphrase is basically, “You’re a sheep among wolves. But you’re a sheep with a shotgun. Baahhh baahh, _bitch.”_
It sometimes can be but that's mostly the older systems in World of Darkness.
Old system: roll your d10s, and any that come up 10 you roll another d10 until you stop getting 10s.
Newer system: roll your d10s, and if you roll a 10 with something you specialize in it counts as 2 successes.
In both systems if you roll a 1 it subtracts from your highest die rolls first, so: potentially lose a success and bonus roll, or potentially lose 2 successes at once.
"only 3-6 shotguns is a threat to everything?"
If you are a PC, probably.
Unless you are really prepped, and have been playing (out of game) for years.
PCs start at a power level typically that is butch, but not too butch.
Ancient spirits of evil (tm) can transform your decayed form to Bob, the Ever Winning...but that takes a lot.
so at 6:35, that is an easter egg. The WoD people made "Black Dog Games" [originally a play on White Wolf] That sells rpgs in setting. They wrote themselves as terrible variations that were over the top and eviiilllll....{tm}
Black Dog games were the satanic panic for the setting. Only it's really something to panic about, as they leave stuff in like snippets from the Necronomicon in their rpg books. For Edgeeee!!!1one
Also they used black dog games for their smut and gross stuff irl.
Yes, you read correctly...their smut stuff.
Don't ask.
Smut RPGs?
I remember reading a Black Dog splat book for VtM. Normally I'm not one to get shaken by disturbing imagery and descriptions, I was seriously creeped out, and felt violently disturbed and disgusted. I closed the book and put it back on the shelf, and never bothered to look in another book by Black Dog Publishing again.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC Black Dog did a lot of... questionable books. The best one was about the Holocaust called "Charnel Houses of Europe: The Shoah" which is considered by many tabletop nerds to be the best written book of any RPG but also one of the *most* depressing due to its content (One of the Authors are the descendants of Jewish people escaping Germany in 1936). This book shows the horrors of what happened during World War 2 in Wraith: The Oblivion. But it shows that World War 2 was 100% caused by humans and not other supernatural creatures, they just took advantage of what occurred.
*spoilers lore*
The death of so many people in World War 2 created a hellish malevolent storm in the Shadowlands (The Realm of the Dead) called the Fifth Great Maelstrom. A Great Maelstroms occurs only in times of great death and destruction in the our world. This event awakened the Malfean Spirit Gorool but also caused an excess of Oblivion itself to spread into our reality. (There are currently violent ghosts and spirits of corruption that are actively trying to harm people.)
*First page introduction*
"This book is dedicated to the survivors of the Holocaust, who have spent 50 years telling their stories. What you hold in your hands is a tribute to their perseverance and, in some small way, an attempt to carry on their legacy for the sake of the generations who will never know them. Todah raba."
@@RipOffProductionsLLC Black Dog did a lot of... questionable books. The best one was about the Holocaust called "Charnel Houses of Europe: The Shoah" which is considered by many tabletop nerds to be the best written book of any RPG but also one of the *most* depressing due to its content.
In WoD, if you have enough shotguns, you can kill ANYTHING.
One of my players ran a Nos with a bangstick, a scuba weapon that loads a single shotgun shell onto a stick that goes off if you stab someone with it. He was very effective.
@@charliejones1175A Bomb Lance from Hunt: Showdown could do better, especially with Steel Balls ammunition.
If you play the PC game, do not play as a crazy clan vampire on your first play. The story plays different for them.
Malkavian
... also add the Nosferatu for not on first playthrough, having to be hidden at all time IS a massive difference in term of gameplay.
@@oliviernaud4373 Yeah, heard Nosferatu is basically an unspoken hard mode.
VTM bloodlines was, well to say it was unfinished by its devlopers is un fair. but it wasn't done cooking. thankfuly a number of the comunity rose up make the game more playable and their remains a decadented fan modding community
If you decide to get Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines I recommend you get the GOG version because it comes with some fan made patches baked in and Bloodlines is a very, VERY buggy game. I would also suggest looking up some good mods to further stabilize and maybe improve the graphics.
Bloodlines has mods, but the unofficial patch is a fan patch that adds cut content back into the game and fixes MANY bugs the devs didn’t, as the game didn't sell well at launch and was quickly abandoned.
Yes you can...technically kill a Garou with enough shotguns in WoD.
It's the *Enough* part.
...and how butch they are.
Combat is fast, twitchy and mean. Cheating to win (in this case I mean jumping people from behind, not slugging it out, running away, trapping etc., not fibbing dice) is the name of the game if you want to live long.
You may be the thing that goes bump in the night. But the night bumps back hard. And there's always a thing with bigger sticks and more tentacles in the night.
Unless you have silver, then it’s just luck there.
Though I heard rolling for damage is a bit of a hassle?
@@CountDVB It sometimes can be but that's mostly the older systems in World of Darkness.
Old system: roll your d10s, and any that come up 10 you roll another d10 until you stop getting 10s.
Newer system: roll your d10s, and if you roll a 10 with something you specialize in it counts as 2 successes.
In both systems if you roll a 1 it subtracts from your highest die rolls first, so: potentially lose a success and bonus roll, or potentially lose 2 successes at once.
@@marmyeater So you roll d10s for damage then?
Okay for mechanics the best (quick) way I can describe most WoD is this.
Stats are (typically) 1 to 5. [1 being really bad 5 being like best ever]
(Str/Dex/THiCCness Manipulationness/Charmingness/Hawtness Brainy smarts/Reading the room smarts/Thinking quick smarts)
You have attributes that are 1 to 5. These would be your skills, training etc.
(Drive, shoot, Medicine, Knowledge - obscure streaming skills to remember to press record vs stream live)
Add a stat and an attribute.
Dex (2) Drive (2)
that is how many d10s you pick up.
Storyteller tells you a dc (7)
Roll Dex (2) + Drive (2) and count the 7s
Those are the successes.
1 = success, more = more success.
Typically combat is Vs, I roll and you roll and we see who gets more. The difference can be how bad I hurt you.
If I roll 5 successes stabbing you with a taco bell spork, and you roll 2 successes on parrying the taco bell spork, you're getting sporked baby. At a difference of 3 (5-2).
Which might mean more sporkage.
That's basically mechanically all of WoD. The rest is just details. And magic splat. (Vampires get XXX, Mummies can YYY, Mages can ZZZ) etc.
The tabletop picture is an in game company called "Black Dog Game Factory" (White Wolf). They produce several game lines that parody the real game lines that White Wolf produces such as
Revenant: The Ravishing (formerly Zombie: The Putrescence) (Vampire)
Lycanthrope: The Rapture (Werewolf)
Warlock: The Pretension (Mage)
Spectre: The Annihilation (Wraith)
Pixie: The Delusion (Changeling)
Human: The Protagonist (Hunter)
Fiend: The Pacting (Demon)
Instead of World of Darkness the in game tabletop setting is called World of Shadows.
A legendary moment of my very first longer Vampire Campaign. A player wiped out an whole enemy faction by driving with an fuel tank truck into their headquarter and than blow the whole fuel up. It is one of the rules in Vampire I love the most. You can be as powerful as you want: Nothing saves you if anyone is crazy enough to decide to just ram you with an truck.
I think that is the best way to do vampire combats. Not thinking in term of what special abilities you could use to destroy your enemy. Fights are far more dramatic if something unexpecting like that just happens.
Supposedly the VTMB videogame is finally having a proper sequel coming out soon, and since most of the original writing staff is supposedly back we can hope to maybe see a fully fleshed out and properly upgraded version with even better mechanics and such than the original. Fingers crossed
Just as long as it's not like the duke nukem sequel. 😶
@@Airier agreed SO whole heartedly… oof that was a disaster
There Are rules for horrible lasting wounds and/or insanity, however they are optional, and some creatures can kinda just grow back missing limbs or rewrite brain issues… but its up to the DM as to which are used
In answer to your wondering about the sewers, It's infamously the worst part of the game, Long area with no blood to drain which you WILL need to do so if you haven't prepared enough you're screwed, Really hard to navigate, confusing and really repetitive so it's easy to get lost and hit dead ends all while dealing with a lot of combat.
In a game that is otherwise excellent.
Bad enough that I almost uninstalled it when I first played it (long before the unofficial patch) and led to many an annoyed person on gamespot. Thankfully an absolute saint when making the unofficial patch put in a shortcut that lets you skip the whole thing.
If you ever play it, install the unofficial patch and skip the warrens you don't get xp for fights and theres no worthwhile loot, Spare yourself the frustration.
“Vampire The Masquerade” is a really good game. It allows you to customize your character with fully voiced characters reacting to how you look and talk, it has multiple endings, and yes your choices do matter, HOW AND WHY IS THIS GAME SO GOOD?…
Because Its a game made in an era where good games where allowed to be made.
To be fair, Bloodlines is exactly how I got into the World of Darkness, so I understand the recommendation. It's a great intro into the world of Vampire the Masquerade especially, but also incorporates brief elements from Wraith, Hunter, and werewolf as well! You don't get much of a deep dive into the other three, but you're made aware of their existence within the wider, World of Darkness Universe. Completed the first playthrough wanting to know more, and discovered the tabletop RPG, sourcebooks, Card Games, and other video games like VTM Redemption, VTM Night Road, WTA Heart of the Forest, etc. It truly is a great starting point for anyone curious about the WOD Universe!
-Just make sure your download at least the Unofficial Patch or Unofficial Patch Plus! There are also several Mods that use a version of the patch as a base. My personal fav being Clan Quest MOD, which is actually what my 1st playthrough was with. There are many others as well though like The Final Nights, Bloodlines: Antitribu, and the new Prelude Mod that's still in development. 🙂
I shared a number of Mr Welch's videos on WoD games in the discord, should help make sense of some of this...suppose I should also share the video about the Street Fighter RPG, since I think it was the same system.
EDIT: Mispelling due to typing on phone.
The puppet is dangerous because it's a werewolf.
SpeakerD's regular speaking voice kinda reminds me of Plague of Gripes' voice
Speaker is correct though, VtMB is a great game
Seth covered Bloodlines.
Sseth, the double S is important.
15:39 Y'know I can honestly believe that Christopher Lee would dress as a punk.
5:09 - Shotguns are the most overpowered weapon in WoD. It's all about what type of shells you use: dragon's breath for vampires, silver for werewolves...
9:57 - Not really. The goal of Wraith is to unpack your unfinished business so you can move on to a better existence rather than to undo themselves.
14:57 - Oh yeah, Changelings can be REALLY broken if played right.
23:10 - Kuei-Jin... they're a FORM of vampiric undead that aren't related to vampires. They're... weird, we don't talk about them.
27:11 - Too bad, you get an answer :D . Mermaids are a form of Changeling in WoD. They, like their nightmare Merrow cousins, are aquatic and rarely interact with land folk. Weresharks, yes.
Love ya man! Glad you're hitting this up, this is a fun ride of a video
Don't worry, I know what you mean . . . I had a 100k point chaos undivided army back in 2e 40k . . . then the SoB came out . . . 40.3k point army of them (mostly Seraphim) . . . then my mom did a yard sale while I was at basic training . . . everything sold for $35 . . . yeah . . .
... 😨
That is nightmare fuel.
You can definitely run character rush, or even Tekken/Streetfighter/Mortal Kombat RPG in this system if you want to lol. Can be a fun way for people to test potential builds and get a feel of how their rolls work, then just have it be a dream/narcotics sequence haha
There's a running gag regarding VtM Bloodlines in online communities: every time someone mentions it, someone else reinstalls it
Yes, it is that well received and remembered. It is *JANK* though, so I'd recommend the GoG version, as it comes with the fan made bugfixes built in.
Also regarding the balance of rules: in my experience the more complicated it is the worse your time is going to be, as you can spend 4 real world hours resolving a fight that in game is less than 5 minutes. You just need a less combative GM
Yes roll for sucess you do atribute plus skill equils outcome eacj can have up to 5 dice a 1-5 points in atribute or 0-5 in skills or if u a over powered super bampire them u can have uo to 10 in a state or atribute but we dont tend to be able play those high level aincient vampires
25:35 The way he said Longinus is right. Assuming you only know it from Fate, the way you say it is like a latinized version of the Japanese pronunciation of a Greek word. This is not an uncommon phenomenon, it's to be expected when any European language is borrowed into Japanese, just by the virtue of the languages working so differently. For example, the word Aegis. As seen in both Fate and Persona, it's pronounced "i-gis", when in the original Greek it's supposed to be "ee-jus".
Hey Airier, didn't see a comment answering this one. But you sounded confused at 'polycule'. A polycule is a group who are all dating/married. Polyamory stuff. Think polygamy but without it necessarily being one man with everyone else married to/dating him, or think open relationships but the open part is more for more long term stuff. It's not common, but it's more common than you might think.
i played vampire the masquerade: bloodlines when it first came out in 2004 fun game but get the patch, base game is buggy but just the fact that what clan you pick can change how/what you can do in the game as in if your a Nosferatu you can't walk the streets without getting people running away calling the police but you can eat rats for blood or if you pick Ventrue you can do a form of mind control and other fun things but you can get sick from feeding from homeless or animals i think it has been a long time since i played it i would say play it
My first encounter with WoD was a comic reviewer playing Bloodlines.
Read All Guardsman Party for a taste of Character Rush
If you want to research lore of World of Darkness, be it the Classic World of Darkness, or the more recent Chronicles of Darkness, check out the channel Lazar of Stygia. He covers a lot of World of Darkness lore.
5:09 I don’t recommend using a shotgun against the werewolf generation is good enough to keep them together even for multiple shotgun shots. Trust me you do not wanna unload several rounds just to kill one werewolf you’re better off doing it with A. silver crossbow bolt pacifically because it will get stuck in them and kill them for the inside.
It is definitely possible to make a character who is essentially immune to shotguns, I have.
4:45 Have you watched Tales From My D&D Campaign? Cause space Ebola sounds like it's related to space aids.
ah yes! our weekly serving of the new bruvah video reaction thank u arier
You should check out the other like 15 race/setting/however you want to view them books too, sadly many of them don’t get a lot of love, and some were nearly oneshots in detail level, but they are quite interesting, each one far different from the others, and yet, able to relate to the other monsters.
Being wraith is essentially waiting to be turned into 🧱
To me this says, make a task force with AA-12's as the GM's delete button. With Barret and Lynx rifles on the roofs. If that doesn't work, load frag 12 and MK 211 Raufoss.
You should check out The Interrogation Of Konrad Curze
Changeling and Demon are my favorite setting.
8:18 wraith the oblivion afterlife is a VR game. As I understand it, you don't like VR.
I have nothing wrong with it, just don't know many good games to justify how expensive it is.
That'll change over time. But not sure if it's worth it yet
Vampire : Mage : Werewolf
Center are technocrats / SoE.
The game is good and worth it speaking from experiance
Now, I may be trying to get you to start reacting to Seth Tzeentach videos again... but in this case I consider myself completely justified because he does have a video review for Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines that is really good and not too spoilery!
I will counter his statement of “nobody is immortal” with a couple builds i have written out… but generally yes, you are always a few bad rolls away from true death no matter what base you are, excepting the few i mentioned above haha.
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Sin the eater a celebration of the survivor after all living wells the best revenge
Kuei-Jin are the focus of the _single worst_ World of Darkness gameline: Kindred of the East. It’s focused on the monsters and undead creatures of China and Japan… as seen through the lens of a bunch of theater kids in the 90s whose only exposure to Asian culture was martial arts movies.
Uh-oh.
Wait a minute... 1 year ago? Why is RUclips recommending these now? Strange.
if you want a fun and interesting system to get into with a rich and well developed lore and super friendly community Shadowrun
Play the game it's very fun the dude quests can be a a blast at times
Stealth is a but buggy and some quests are a pain at times but overall it's a game you should play
He should watch the one seth made a review on
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