I find the “when you have the right units” method to be a bit biased/weird. I find order of completion/overall difficulty to be a better metric, because it shows how hard the stage is in the greater context of the game, not just the difficulty of the execution with a certain selection of cats determined to be the “right units”. People complete different things in different orders. And also, watercon ain’t nearly as hard as it used to be, so chadbear is much more accessible, meaning z-ones is indirectly powercreeped. Finally, puffsley is definitely not the 3rd easiest. It’s by far one of the harder advents featuring an omega strong boss with a large aoe and very strong supporting peons. Honestly, the pengs and puffsley are a perfect match. Most peng counters are mele units, puffsley stops them from stacking up. It’s a pretty difficult stage without an anti alien sniper Uber, and can’t even be attempted without full cotc 3 completion and treasures
@@Benjamin-wj5cg yeah you need a pretty boosted chill and cattelite plus strong rares and super rares, plus some sort of back liner, preferably able to outrange puffsley
I think that measuring level difficulty based on the point of the game you're at and comparing them to much harder levels doesn't work since it's not as concrete. if ur at the point to beat puffsley you likely have the units to destroy queen B. the best way to measure the difficulty I think is from a standpoint of one point in the game. this assumes you have sufficient levels and units to beat the stage. like if you have cadaver bearcat then zonel is so easy but you gotta beat kappy first to make zonel that easy. does it necessarily make zonel harder than kappy? no. it's like saying you need to beat hannya wrath to get to hannya revenge so revenge is harder. that's my take on this.
@@matthewmea3566 hi mattew. there are a few ways to rank the stage: how hard the execution is with the appropriate units, how hard it is in the greater game progression, and how hard it is based on what the meta is. watercon powercreep has indirectly made zonel easier by the third definition. any powercreep to okame and aku hannya makes idi easier.
This guy ranks them from the perspective of someone who has beaten the latest UL stage to come out this update, and like these advents just came out instead of someone who is progressing through the game beating the advents as they level up
Quite a lot of stuff to say: Papuu's strengthen actually triples, not doubles, her attack power. Not enough to change her position, since permanently cursing her basically deletes her. Wahwah is technically easier than his alien brother, but considering that the only non-uber cats that can be used are normal cats it's fair to rank him higher. I would put hannya below sathankamun because of the fact that sathankamun attacks faster, has more roided and harder to counter enemies and that hannya can be rushed down with a somewhat easy strategy (I think it uses icat, bahamut and elemental duelist) I think queen b can be moved down because the backliner in that stage is a lot easier to manage than the backliners in her relic variant's stage. Z-onel was the last advent stage I beat and with good reason. Their revives are beyond annoying and only a psychopath would enjoy playing that stage. (Ganglion, baby cat and balrog make that stage a lot easier though) The reason kappy's stage is so evil is because those tiny purple (insert profanities here) get in the way of everything and they keep ruining my stone/glass cat cycles. Wave and surge attackers do have an advantage from this though.
That last statement I couldn’t agree with you more, those mbts fanboys just ruined so many attempts since the stone strat was my only option in the wrath stage since I couldn’t cheese it anymore due to restrictions
At the time I also didn’t have glass since n-1 Grand Prix just went against the direction of the game and basically said rng or get walled since even if you don’t want to Uber carry, you still have to gacha roll just to get the levels needed for your normals to beat the stage
@@murphplaya I could NOT agree with you more, tho a cat that has interesting interactions in this stage is metal cat. He is very good at stalling the enemies here, but he also drags the battle longer than it should bc metal also holds the Cerberus kids behind sathan and friends making it much harder to get slime hits off. I decided to try metal out and I ended up taking so long due to a lack of chip that the second nimoy came out and I was actually running low on money (I wasn’t using rich) that ai thought I was screwed. Luckily, slime could use nimoy as a stepping stone to finish off sathan refilling my wallet so ai could kill the nimoy.
Couple of notes: Not many people will have idi when fighting sathan and as such puffington is utter hell to take down with the threat of it pinning you to the base along with sathan and chickful a. Clearing a path for it, the one interesting thing is that a high enough lvl bullet train can act as a stalker for puffeington in addition to damage Queen b was also nightmarish when I first completed it but mainly bc my unit selection actually struggled with dealing with the kroxos Wahwah is extremely cruel if you either can’t/don’t Uber carry since even if you want to go through that torture, you still have to reli on the gacha to even gain levels for your normals so if you only get plus levels on stuff like dark or flying instead of legs and titan, you are utterly fucked in a simpler term wahwah is a deadly stage that very well could result in a type of grind required to beat a merciless advent
@@christopherdangelo1292 The main units you should use are slime, bullet train, green shell, stone, seafarer, another nuker (preferably can can) and manic eraser or cactus cat if you have it. The last 3 slots can be filled with combos or any other unit you feel would be helpful, like metal cat
@@tacotown4598 so I beat the stage and got the unit but I was curious to see if your statement of metal cat being good is true and while I did beat the stage a couple of notes Metal cat is indeed good at stalling everything but one, sathan’s slow is brutal since it just makes metal unable to block attacks for a bit and makes the threats move forward and two sometimes metal is too effective for the line-up’s own good because by holding back the Cerberus kids slime barely could get a wave off once the real battle started. This led to me taking enough time to kill sathan that the second nimoy can out and I almost died due to the last reason: spamming metal TANKS your cash and I had barely any left to fend off the nimoy, and the things I tried mostly got clapped by sathan’s omni. Thankfully slime used the nimoy to finish of sathan and it dying completely refilled my wallet, allowing me to kill the nimoy. It may just be bad timings or the load out not exactly having the best synergy with metal, curious if you also had these problems with using metal. (Also the line up ai used was m.eraser, boulder, slime, fishman, can can, bullet train, seafarer, cyberpunk, and awakened bahamut. The unit I replaced with metal cat was normal eraser since I saw it as the most similar role, eraser specifically since m. Eraser’s speed was much too necessary to leave behind.)
Some notable issues with placements on this list that should be addressed, coming from a Late Game Player: Puffer Planet: This stage requires high level Chill & Catellite, plus other units & CotC treasure grinding. Dunno how it's placed near the bottom of the list when it requires a lot to even start the stage. Also, Weyland is a pain to deal with, and the Star Pengs hit like miniature trucks; not to mention the raw damage output of Puffsley itself. Courier can be used more prominently here to deal with the backline. Grinding for stones may be annoying and/or painful, though. Dead on Debut: This stage is not as hard as you're making it out to be. Decently leveled Ramen & Shigong makes this a lot easier compared to the hypermax Manic Jam setups. Awakened Bahamut makes Angelic Gory disappear. Spawn Shigong for Zombies plus Daboo and Ramen for angels. It is not even close to one of the hardest first stage advents in the entire game; Realm of Carnage & I'll be bug are much harder to deal with setup and strat wise. Honey Trap: This stage only really requires decent level Fishman Cat, plus all treasures from ITF. After that, very manageable stage. Regular Jamiera at around 20+20 works nicely too if you don't have manic jamiera. Another note is that Courier can be used if one has him to wreck this stage, but be mindful of the brollow waves and The Sloth in the back. Otherwise, fairly simple stage that lacks in difficulty if well prepared enough. No Plan A: This stage is a little bit easier than how you perceived it, as there are many options you can use to deal with the starting phase. After that, it's learning the rushdown and you're basically done with it. If you can't do the One Bahamut Cycle, try the Two Bahamut Cycle; as it's just the former but with extra steps, as Lucas IV puts it. Last of the Dead: Now that Cadaver Bear is more accessible, this stage has really fallen from grace as a hard stage. Still requires the annoying CotC treasure grinding for the Star Pengs though. Otherwise, fairly difficult stage, not as hard as it used to be though on release. Also, just a note to add before posting this comment; Last of the Dead can be rushed if those who lack Cadaver Bear want to beat this stage.
Unrelated but I honestly think evil emperor has the saddest history for an advent boss: on release some called him worse than doremi, then ponos actually buffed the stage and it seems ee would be a respected advent now, easier than most but at least somewhat of a challenge. And then courier happened The stage is right back to square one in terms of difficulty. Srsly I didn’t have slapsticks at the time of beating ee and courier effectively removed the need for them by killing the capies so fast that by the time oldhorn came out the emperor was dead, and a cancan stack easily shreds an unsupported oldhorn. Second try with a treasure radar to get rocc I beat the stage before oldhorn even spawned. And I even decided to revisit the stage w/o rich to see if I needed it and while it was my worst run of the three; oldhorn actually made it to the battle, the emperor didn’t have much left and he died before he could truely support oldhorn. It is sad bc this boss was hyped up before release bc a relic advent was terrifying yet exciting at the time, and what we got was throughly a let down. (tho the buff to the stage also raises the question: if ponos knows about these types of exploitable/easy stages, I say both bc not only have the made ee harder, they fixed the sniper cheese with fillabuster by increasing his Omni standing range from the base, why haven’t they fixed doremi yet? And the crazier thing is that there is a simple way of them doing so: Just add an alpacky on boss hit, lazy but it at worst, prevents the cheese from working since even if you got bahamut out of alpacky’s range, alpacky would likely kill the base long before doremi dies.
@@christopherdangelo1292 I literally did Evil Emperor and beat it on the first try, and I didn't have Courier back then because he didn't exist yet. I went back to the stage purely to see how courier would have done and he absolutely demolishes the stage like using a bazooka to kill a house fly...oh yeah I also did Dasli abuse together with Courier because why not
You can also beat Bombergirl in a very similar way to Babyfake, If you can clear the Bores, Then just chain the boss to death with multiple rushers, 50k damage to KB the boss really isn't very much
Idi:"Face me nerd" Me:"Sure I can beat you easily, without any stress because I wasted my whole life grinding Battle Cats" Idi:"You forgot you need to beat all 4 crown SoL stages" Me:"Ah shit here we go again 💀🗿"
One of the strategies you can use to beat z-onel without painfully having to estimate when to use holyblast is by stacking cadaver cats on the first star peng and timing your hlbast to allow the cadavers to walk into the first z-onel's blindspot, if done correctly the cadavers have a good chance of zkilling the first z-onel and the second one would be a cakewalk
Dead on debut used to be one of the hardest but not anymore cause all you need now is research combos with Ramen and Wushu and kind of attacker that can clear out the other peons
My takes on each Advent Boss Doremi (Baby Fake) -No comment. Bakoo (Bombergirl) -Pretty easy advent as long as you have iCat which most players have by the time they reach the mid game. However you could still lose if your LD/Wave units aren’t strong enough or plentiful, but still. Puffsley’s Comet (Puffer Planet) -Disagree with this placement. Most players don’t have highly boosted Can-Cans, Chill or Catellites by the time they are ready for this stage (which is around late SoL/early UL). Timing your units so you don’t waste money by sending them to die to Puffsley. Also the Weylands stack up quickly, meaning your units have less opportunities to hit the ever growing number of Pengs. Papuu (Saintly Sister) -Agree with this. Gotta be careful with the Sir Rels and Papuu’s constant Toxics but players have enough base hp and boost to kill Papuu quickly by the time they start doing Merciless advents. Evil Emperor (Possessed by Evil) -Should arguably be lower. From what I understand, Courier and the other egg units are accessible to most players at early UL when they are able to beat the behemoth culling stages, meaning this stage becomes an even bigger joke. Heck even without it, it just takes Can-Can, Slime, Slapsticks, Baha, and Island to take it down no problem. Black Okame (The Pure Land) -Depends on your units. If you have Heavy Assault this stage is a breeze, otherwise its still not hard but the Gory waves can mess you up. Queen B (Honey Trap) -It has gotten easier since its debut with units like Fishman, Speed talent Can-Can, and more that mid game players can access but still a stage you need good timing with which imo still bumps this stage up. Brollows can mess up your tempo and push. Possessed Empress (Aku’s Melody) -Units like Mushroom and Cactus have made it easier but still a long and agonizing level imo. Aku Gories push hard, Empress’ wave is always looming, SBKs, and Doge Darks blocking your shield piercers from getting past Empress. Sathankhamun (Aku Reincarnation) -Easy stage. Most players have IDI by the time they reach this stage. Only part you have to keep watch of is the timing for Slime and meatshields to keep Chickful A and Satha from pushing, but it is not hard to do. Cosmic WanWan (Dogsvile) -This stage was once a fun challenge where you need to keep track of the cat limit while timing your units to kill Capies and the other peons, now people got Rocc and Courier to wipe the floor out of Capy, removing alot of the challenge in the stage. Clionel (No Plan A) -An iconic stage that has not changed much in terms of difficulty other than having slightly more rush units. If your not good with timing Cat Cannon you will have a bad time. This advent still requires at least a few tries to get the timing down but it is always satisfying to get is right. King Wah Wah (N-1 Grand Prix) -Hardest advent in the game imo. You need high level normals which if your cat ticket luck sucks, good luck. Zang Roos and SBKs push hard in conjunction with Wah Wah. Also keeping good watch of your wallet and timing Cannon/Sniper right. Not too ridiculously hard but the most challenging advent (until Superfeline tf comes. kek) Hannya (Realm of Carnage) -Another classic advent stage. It has gotten easier with having a bunch of new good anti-reds alongside islands but timing Baha for R.Ost is still (mostly) necessary to beat Hannya, however depending on your cat levels you can still take it out even if you mess up the Bahamut timing. Queen Mother V (I’ll Be Bug) -The jacked up version of Honey Trap. Your put on a timer with the two Prof. As cause you could straight up lose if they stack up. You have to kill Prof. A as soon as possible while timing your islands and roes to not get cursed. Not much has changed since this stage’s inception, if Courier could hit Prof A then this would be a completely different stage. Daboo (Dead in Debut) -A bit too high since changes like the addition of Shigong and Holy Blast make the stage more doable for the average player. Still a stage where you have to keep track of your Bahamut timing, Jamiera levels, etc. Even in 2022 its still one of the harder advent stages at the point most p Z-Onel (Last of the Dead) -Got power crept by the new anti-zombie units (namely Cadaver) and stronger Holy Blast. The timing to rush Z-Onel is not hard either, especially nowadays. Would rank this lower. Kappy Jr. (Flow of the Stream) -Would agree with this back when Gato, Beefcake and Rocc didn’t exist. They destroy this stage pretty badly, hell if you can get Jaga beforehand its free. If you want to play it the old way, Camera + Pizza with Glass/Vendor and Research Combo.
I think that both clionel and daboo have significantly reduced their difficulty over time, currently I don't consider them that difficult due to ramen cat, a very easy unit to get and on possessed empress I think it should be lower since the boss is himself quite easy and rushable currently and more when this boss came out at a point not so early in the game and by the time you destroy the aku altar, most players have kai for example
@@gaelmtz207tbh empress is a joke now not even because of mushroom and cactus: It was SUPERCAR that killed the stage for good. With an extra side of fallen bear to ruin the aku gories in the clean up phase
I do agree on the notion that N1 Grand Prix is a badly designed advent stage tho: Any stage that requires the luck to even level up your cats enough to do the stage is just bad design. Though personally I have always hated both kappy’s even more (I know there is a bunch of surge powercreep, but in kappy jr.’s case I lacked units like beefcake, and I couldn’t get the rock strat to work on water conservancy to save my life, so I ended up going with the jagando strat, which took a billion tries since the relic doges just kept stacking up, mowing down my meatshields and allowing everything to push, with slime being unable to reach them with all of kappy surging and the lorises. And kawano….. I don’t want to talk about it: I had to true form cactus, cop, filibuster just because the stage was kicking my ass and yet nothing worked, until I eventually and barely won.) Also also, wahwah by the definition isn’t the hardest anymore: That reward would go to doremi and babies’ first
I bullied bakoo in it's 3 stages the same day with courier (I have all treasures of Into the Future if you ask): Bombergirl: Courier lv40, Roe cat lv40-ish (it has dupes but 40 must do the trick) and Bombercat just in case (bony hazard + cheating hearts + rich cat). Also breakerblast for bakoo, it's easier to time Wrath: Courier, Maximum the fighter lv30, Dread pirate catley lv30 and Bombercat again XD (same combos + rich cat) Revenge: Courier, Seafarer lv40, A. bahamut lv30 (for sloth) and Bombercat (same combos + rich cat) These strats were made by Chillhola, just look at his video "Courier is a balanced unit..."
i found queen B to be the easiest by far. I had an uber-boosted fishman when i got there, like 50+10. I also had a couple massive damage up and defense combos so that fishman could survive a sloth hit. queen B dies in 15 seconds or even before the brollows come. I don't know how I would place Z-Onel because i had chadbear by the time i got to zonel. I would put relic B at 2nd because that stage requires huge boosts or great ubers in tandem with good strategy. I remember struggling like hell because my cats couldnt get to the prof A.
I think that zonel deserves a big drop, as it is completely free with chadbear+research. You just lure the star peng, stack bear, hblast the zonel so be bear stack enters the blindspot, and win. Easy. Also, Hannya is honestly one of the easiest advents. Rush strat is extremely potent and it is possibly one of the easiest to complete. Ik the ranking is based on when you have the “right units”, but when you have the right units almost all advents are easy(even kappy, though less so than the rest. He’s kinda the standout). Hannya is almost always the 1st or 2nd advent you beat, and it’s really not difficult.
@@gangykat that is a good point. Though water con is def not nearly as hard as it used to be, and you can always wait to do zonel for an absolutely free win.
With the introduction of courier cat, I think it’s criminal to have Hannya so high. Also I wouldn’t put King WahWah so high but then again I had Kasa Jizo in the level and my normal cats were all level 20+60 which is over levelled I’m pretty sure. I’ve only just done all the deadly advents so I can’t say anything about others, but I think Hannya should be around where Bakoo is and clionel should move down. Don’t get me wrong, clionel is difficult but there is a rush strategy involving courier, fishman, ramen, manic macho legs and manic lion that makes the stage trivial. Overall, I enjoyed playing these stages and all the deadly advents gave some either good units or cool units
Yeah it is a bit wrong to have hannya so high despite all of the power creep against it. And yeah wahwah’s case it would just be your experience: wahwah is just a poorly designed advent stage. It takes absurds amount of prep to do the stage and that prep is just rng, not to mention even now there’s no powercreep for the stage, even superfeline needs a lot of boosting to even be usable and is far from where wahwah’s point of the game is. Also cilo is mainly still a challenge since, while simple, the strat has not only been unchanged even now, but the strat itself is actually challenging: there is much more nuance to the bahamut rush to deal with slephnir and getting the dragon into the angel’s blindspot than it seems
Tip for queen b honey trap you can use cancan and fishman cat without problem with alien croco if you got courier cat anyway still needs 100% treasure for alien
So far I’ve beaten 6 advent bosses, and in my opinion, this is from easiest to hardest: 6. Bakoo: Legit extremely free. Hardest part is just getting iCat so you can beat the stage. Once you get him, just stack ranged attackers and you’ve won 5. Queen B: Another pretty easy boss I guess. People act like Courier Cat makes it completely free, but I think that even with him it’s still slightly harder than Bakoo. The brollow swarms are the only reason why the level is kind of hard 4. Daboo This is where my bias starts to set in due to what units I have. Sarukani makes this stage an absolute push over. Shigong also makes this stage really easy. I nearly died when I beat it, but I still first tried it. Really not too bad with the right units 3. Hannya This is where the stages are actually hard. I would of put this at number 2 if it wasn’t for me owning momoco, who is extremely good against the bore and sometimes Hannya, and also because the boss himself doesn’t have that much health, only having a million. R.Ost is the biggest opp though, god damn does he make the stage hard 2. Cli-Onel Angelic Gory spam is the only reason why I hate this stage so much. You could be doing perfect, and then they melt though all of your rushers. Similarly to Hannya, everything else isn’t really that bad 1. Wah-Wah “Units Allowed: Normals and Uber Rares” That is all you need to see to know what kind of stage this is. Wan-Wan’s stage is pretty similar to Daboo’s, being a big endurance test with a high damage nuke/sniper as the boss. While Wan-Wan isn’t as tanky, he makes up for it with his knockback and not many units who you can use against him. You can only use Normals or Ubers, and not many of them are anti-traitless. Not to mention the mixed enemies, zombies, aliens, black, all of that. I think this is the hardest advent I’ve done so far
You can use roe cat as listed on the fandom wiki, however I personally used it to win (I even have a RUclips video to prove it) so roe cat can work you just gotta have the right team
Wanwan is actually pretty nasty. Cat limit restriction+minute long warp+Capies and sir rels is a pretty nasty combo all things considered. I had talented bondage and d’art for the stage, so it was “relatively” easy, but I can imagine it being very difficult for someone who doesn’t have those units
Queen bee is the easiest out of all the ones I've done, I haven't done any merciless yet, so far the hardest is king wah wah who I haven't beaten and clionel the rest are fairly easy
Baby Fake is easily the easiest advent boss, there is no argument. Also the reason that this list isn't a good depiction of these stages'true difficulty is depending on the units that you have these stages are either near impossible at times or exceptionally easy. For example, when I did puffer planet, I had Doktor heaven, making the stage a joke. This situation can be present in any of these stages which makes ranking them based on "when you do them" impossible because the point of progression you try these stages is different for everyone.
you forgot to mention Eva-02 in I'll be bug, imo it might be the #1 best uber for that stage, she's fast so if u aren't dumb she won't be cursed, she has LD so she can use queen V as a stepping stone to kill prof. A, and she has massive damage against red to completely demolish the stage
Including author's "right units" Method, Queen B should be much lower, for the victory you need 2 erasers, Catelite, Fishman cat and courier. Just spam everything and boop, victory
Finally, someone who actually sees the waylands and project a as actually part of the level and not filler cuz while the can warp your attackers to prevent harm the can just as easily make the pengs stack by constantly either warping or damage kb’ing your units
Who do you think is the strongest. A demon. A angle that destroys anything in its path. Clionel. A HUGE zombie with a magic spell book that summon a blast the size of a city building. A king of millions of people. Or a platypus with a stick. Correct the platypus with a stick.
I found Kasli the Bane to be a great help in bringing down Omakoo, with the combination of LD, surge, and curse. Also helped out with the 2nd part of clearing Omakoo
@@abfs5470 Stages where enemies push too hard/she’s outranged. If she can get in on something, especially debuffers, she wrecks house. But if she can’t she’s a waste of a slot
To be honest, Queen Pee is super easy, all you need to do is use rusher units and hope that everything goes well, and I powercreep it so hard that I forgot Old Queen is a thing and my 1000 cat energy is used to get slime cat lmao
The gurranteed long curse duration that Queen Mother B has, it has a duration of 111s (almost 2 minutes)! That's too excessive even for a Relic enemy, I hope PONOS considers nerf the curse duration or chance some day.
Fun fact: queen mother v represents the virtue ,,patience,, hence her description plus she has the highest curse duration hence whise you have to have ,,patience,, in order to beat the level
King Wah Wah is such a bitch with that restriction. Every other advent is relatively easy, but since normals have been so historically powercrept, you basically have a neutered lineup unless you have some good Ubers
@@JNReditz Yeah I did the exact same thing. Worst part about a stage like this is that it likely is going to be immune to powercreep. The main reason why I view babies’ first as worse than even villainous gods despite the latter being harder is that at least with villainous gods, the stage is open to powercreep, as is for other stages such as soractes. Doremi doesn’t really have to deal with that: it can just sit back and relax alongside wahwah as they laugh at the other advents and difficult stages as they get powercrept and made easier
I've only done the deadly advents, but heres my ranking based on my skill level (take from that what you will). Hardest to Easiest (in terms of stage but also on their own) ■Wahwah: The triple knockback and restrictions make it basically a unit level check if you don't have ubers that can hit him. His large omni can ruin your day as well. ■Clionel: Her damage is pretty high, and the peons in the stage can make it a bit of an rng fest. ■Bakoo: The freeze can ruin your life if it procs while the bores are out. A-Bahamut chaining is super easy though. ■Daboo: Shigong + Ramen. Biohazard+Bony Bone (or any medium research) and tiny will (lil tank + Camera). (Free with rock revengers, but that's irrelevant) ■Hanya: The hardest part is R Ost. Courier is a free unit that obliterates the stage (you can use Sushi to hold hanya in place and protect from the bores). If you can time A Bahamut and Have courier, you beat the stage congrats :) ??■Queen B: Idk how to rank her really, because with fishman, A Bahamut, courier, Can Can, and SO many other units can trivialize the stage. Anyone that waits and gets CotC treasures first will murder her even more given her amount of trait counters.
I dont know why it took me so many attempts to beat Bakoo, like it wasnt getting knocked back by the courier and housewife cats on the field for some reason
Zonel and queen mother v are by far the hardest ones, flow like the stream is super easy if you know what you are doing or just do the super easy instant win cheese, water conservancy however is very tough
Ok funny story. I beat hannya with a totally improvised setup. I used Icat and Roe per usual, but i also used courier, along with Balalan Pasalan and Babel
Funny thing is, babel takes care of the R.osts and Balalan Pasalan outranges hannya, freezing the bastard from a comfy range. Still dread the hard versions.
Daboo should be lowered imo, since baby face one-cycled allowed in the list then daboo cheese should be allowed too. and wouldn't be queen b honey trap easier since seafarer can freeze queen bee and don't have to deal with stupid timing anymore?
I think kappy isn't the toughest advent. Seriously, is spending 75 NP on Gato Amigo that difficult? Along with boulder he allows you to stall as long as you want. Just bring a cheap, spammable unit to do the damage and you'll be perfectly fine. Also, he said Empress is easy while using a lvl 50 ( I assume ) talented Kai. bruh
I have an issue with your methodology when it comes to your disclaimer at the beginning of the video. You said in your disclaimer that the ranking is based on how difficult it would be based on when you would expect people to take it on (not word for word, but verbatim). But multiple times, you mention, "Just use Idi to take out x enemy" as if you expect players to have Idi during the point at which they would take on the advent bosses. I beat all of the advent bosses before touching UL or even 2 crown SoL. And i'm pretty confident in saying that 99% of players will have beaten all of the advent stages before acquiring Idi, and most players likley dont even bother with getting Idi in the first place. I personally dont see Idi as a necessity until you begin taking on 4 crown UL stages. Also, in my opinion, if you don't beat the advents before taking on 4 crown SoL, you're doing things out of order as all of the advent cats can be used to help with the 4 crown restriction (obviously some cats are useless garbage). So, any ranking where you make it seem like Idi invalidates a challenge of the stage, such as Puffington in Rashomon, are kind of short-sighted. Yes, Idi wipes Puffington out, but most players won't be able to use that interaction. But hey, that's just my opinion, and at the end of the day, this video is entirely opinion based anyway, so whatever. Regardless of where my beliefs and opinions differ, I always find these videos to be rather interesting, so please do continue to make them.
i really hate king wahwahs restriction, i've been playing for around a month and a half and i've already done as many advents as they showed up to me, daboo clionel queen bee hanya bomber girl, and i've managed to complete the revenge for clionel lmao with 34 level fisherman and 30 level bahamut , i think around 34 level maglev (no kalisa no anything), i felt like it was possible even if it was hard af, but my wahwah litterally forces me to have good ubers or wait for 2 years to get decent levels for my normal cats ( half of my normal cats aren't even true formed yet), incredibly dumb restriction imo holy i wanna rush through the f game i don't have enough time
Disagree with Hannya's placement. Courier destroys that stage. Don't even need level 30 Manics anymore, nor gacha units. Would place him below Angel Clionel. Otherwise, great placements 👍👍
About Z-Onel: just upgrade your holy blast at lvl 20 and then just count (you must hit this purple shit 10 times before it dies)........... Оr I'm wrong? Is each hit of holy blast lvl 20 takes away 10% of zombies hp? And also my first advent was queen bitch and the second advent was the old queen)
sak is borrowed footage, and you don’t need idi, just chip with bahamut, slime and btrain, and yes, if you wait to get chadbear it would be nice, but that is not the general strat for the average player, who is likely to beat z-onel first before kappy revenge, but it all depends.
I beat my first deadly today and it was hannya so yea i got that win under my belt turns out that pai pai was worth grinding up to her true form... the fact i only have what like 6 cats true formed is a pain and 2 of em are ubers ima just glad that kai and pai pai are useful
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I find the “when you have the right units” method to be a bit biased/weird. I find order of completion/overall difficulty to be a better metric, because it shows how hard the stage is in the greater context of the game, not just the difficulty of the execution with a certain selection of cats determined to be the “right units”. People complete different things in different orders. And also, watercon ain’t nearly as hard as it used to be, so chadbear is much more accessible, meaning z-ones is indirectly powercreeped. Finally, puffsley is definitely not the 3rd easiest. It’s by far one of the harder advents featuring an omega strong boss with a large aoe and very strong supporting peons. Honestly, the pengs and puffsley are a perfect match. Most peng counters are mele units, puffsley stops them from stacking up. It’s a pretty difficult stage without an anti alien sniper Uber, and can’t even be attempted without full cotc 3 completion and treasures
Puffsley is definitely not the third easiest and quite hard without boosted units or the right Ubers.
@@Benjamin-wj5cg yeah you need a pretty boosted chill and cattelite plus strong rares and super rares, plus some sort of back liner, preferably able to outrange puffsley
I think that measuring level difficulty based on the point of the game you're at and comparing them to much harder levels doesn't work since it's not as concrete. if ur at the point to beat puffsley you likely have the units to destroy queen B.
the best way to measure the difficulty I think is from a standpoint of one point in the game. this assumes you have sufficient levels and units to beat the stage.
like if you have cadaver bearcat then zonel is so easy but you gotta beat kappy first to make zonel that easy. does it necessarily make zonel harder than kappy? no. it's like saying you need to beat hannya wrath to get to hannya revenge so revenge is harder. that's my take on this.
@@matthewmea3566 hi mattew. there are a few ways to rank the stage: how hard the execution is with the appropriate units, how hard it is in the greater game progression, and how hard it is based on what the meta is. watercon powercreep has indirectly made zonel easier by the third definition. any powercreep to okame and aku hannya makes idi easier.
I agree, puffsley stage is not easy, those star pengs are brutal.
This guy ranks them from the perspective of someone who has beaten the latest UL stage to come out this update, and like these advents just came out instead of someone who is progressing through the game beating the advents as they level up
Quite a lot of stuff to say:
Papuu's strengthen actually triples, not doubles, her attack power. Not enough to change her position, since permanently cursing her basically deletes her.
Wahwah is technically easier than his alien brother, but considering that the only non-uber cats that can be used are normal cats it's fair to rank him higher.
I would put hannya below sathankamun because of the fact that sathankamun attacks faster, has more roided and harder to counter enemies and that hannya can be rushed down with a somewhat easy strategy (I think it uses icat, bahamut and elemental duelist)
I think queen b can be moved down because the backliner in that stage is a lot easier to manage than the backliners in her relic variant's stage.
Z-onel was the last advent stage I beat and with good reason. Their revives are beyond annoying and only a psychopath would enjoy playing that stage. (Ganglion, baby cat and balrog make that stage a lot easier though)
The reason kappy's stage is so evil is because those tiny purple (insert profanities here) get in the way of everything and they keep ruining my stone/glass cat cycles. Wave and surge attackers do have an advantage from this though.
That last statement I couldn’t agree with you more, those mbts fanboys just ruined so many attempts since the stone strat was my only option in the wrath stage since I couldn’t cheese it anymore due to restrictions
At the time I also didn’t have glass since n-1 Grand Prix just went against the direction of the game and basically said rng or get walled since even if you don’t want to Uber carry, you still have to gacha roll just to get the levels needed for your normals to beat the stage
If you dont have idi or some other wave/surge unit, the puffingtons in Rashomon are aids
@@murphplaya I could NOT agree with you more, tho a cat that has interesting interactions in this stage is metal cat.
He is very good at stalling the enemies here, but he also drags the battle longer than it should bc metal also holds the Cerberus kids behind sathan and friends making it much harder to get slime hits off. I decided to try metal out and I ended up taking so long due to a lack of chip that the second nimoy came out and I was actually running low on money (I wasn’t using rich) that ai thought I was screwed. Luckily, slime could use nimoy as a stepping stone to finish off sathan refilling my wallet so ai could kill the nimoy.
Before you ask I didn’t first clear the stage with metal I just came back since a comment told me that metal works well in rashomon
Couple of notes:
Not many people will have idi when fighting sathan and as such puffington is utter hell to take down with the threat of it pinning you to the base along with sathan and chickful a. Clearing a path for it, the one interesting thing is that a high enough lvl bullet train can act as a stalker for puffeington in addition to damage
Queen b was also nightmarish when I first completed it but mainly bc my unit selection actually struggled with dealing with the kroxos
Wahwah is extremely cruel if you either can’t/don’t Uber carry since even if you want to go through that torture, you still have to reli on the gacha to even gain levels for your normals so if you only get plus levels on stuff like dark or flying instead of legs and titan, you are utterly fucked in a simpler term wahwah is a deadly stage that very well could result in a type of grind required to beat a merciless advent
if you have metal cat you can beat aku hannya easily
I do have metal but I couldn’t find a spot on the team where he could replace something
@@christopherdangelo1292 just choose, he carried the stage
@@christopherdangelo1292 The main units you should use are slime, bullet train, green shell, stone, seafarer, another nuker (preferably can can) and manic eraser or cactus cat if you have it. The last 3 slots can be filled with combos or any other unit you feel would be helpful, like metal cat
@@tacotown4598 so I beat the stage and got the unit but I was curious to see if your statement of metal cat being good is true and while I did beat the stage a couple of notes
Metal cat is indeed good at stalling everything but one, sathan’s slow is brutal since it just makes metal unable to block attacks for a bit and makes the threats move forward and two sometimes metal is too effective for the line-up’s own good because by holding back the Cerberus kids slime barely could get a wave off once the real battle started. This led to me taking enough time to kill sathan that the second nimoy can out and I almost died due to the last reason: spamming metal TANKS your cash and I had barely any left to fend off the nimoy, and the things I tried mostly got clapped by sathan’s omni. Thankfully slime used the nimoy to finish of sathan and it dying completely refilled my wallet, allowing me to kill the nimoy. It may just be bad timings or the load out not exactly having the best synergy with metal, curious if you also had these problems with using metal. (Also the line up ai used was m.eraser, boulder, slime, fishman, can can, bullet train, seafarer, cyberpunk, and awakened bahamut. The unit I replaced with metal cat was normal eraser since I saw it as the most similar role, eraser specifically since m. Eraser’s speed was much too necessary to leave behind.)
I liked the part when Kappy said “it’s kappin time.” And kapped all over the cats
Klapped
Truly one of the moments of all time
When healer cat
Well, Kappy Jr should be the last of the advent bosses to debut in Zero Legends.
Stop the kap
Some notable issues with placements on this list that should be addressed, coming from a Late Game Player:
Puffer Planet: This stage requires high level Chill & Catellite, plus other units & CotC treasure grinding. Dunno how it's placed near the bottom of the list when it requires a lot to even start the stage. Also, Weyland is a pain to deal with, and the Star Pengs hit like miniature trucks; not to mention the raw damage output of Puffsley itself. Courier can be used more prominently here to deal with the backline. Grinding for stones may be annoying and/or painful, though.
Dead on Debut: This stage is not as hard as you're making it out to be. Decently leveled Ramen & Shigong makes this a lot easier compared to the hypermax Manic Jam setups. Awakened Bahamut makes Angelic Gory disappear. Spawn Shigong for Zombies plus Daboo and Ramen for angels. It is not even close to one of the hardest first stage advents in the entire game; Realm of Carnage & I'll be bug are much harder to deal with setup and strat wise.
Honey Trap: This stage only really requires decent level Fishman Cat, plus all treasures from ITF. After that, very manageable stage. Regular Jamiera at around 20+20 works nicely too if you don't have manic jamiera. Another note is that Courier can be used if one has him to wreck this stage, but be mindful of the brollow waves and The Sloth in the back. Otherwise, fairly simple stage that lacks in difficulty if well prepared enough.
No Plan A: This stage is a little bit easier than how you perceived it, as there are many options you can use to deal with the starting phase. After that, it's learning the rushdown and you're basically done with it. If you can't do the One Bahamut Cycle, try the Two Bahamut Cycle; as it's just the former but with extra steps, as Lucas IV puts it.
Last of the Dead: Now that Cadaver Bear is more accessible, this stage has really fallen from grace as a hard stage. Still requires the annoying CotC treasure grinding for the Star Pengs though. Otherwise, fairly difficult stage, not as hard as it used to be though on release. Also, just a note to add before posting this comment; Last of the Dead can be rushed if those who lack Cadaver Bear want to beat this stage.
Unrelated but I honestly think evil emperor has the saddest history for an advent boss: on release some called him worse than doremi, then ponos actually buffed the stage and it seems ee would be a respected advent now, easier than most but at least somewhat of a challenge.
And then courier happened
The stage is right back to square one in terms of difficulty.
Srsly I didn’t have slapsticks at the time of beating ee and courier effectively removed the need for them by killing the capies so fast that by the time oldhorn came out the emperor was dead, and a cancan stack easily shreds an unsupported oldhorn. Second try with a treasure radar to get rocc I beat the stage before oldhorn even spawned. And I even decided to revisit the stage w/o rich to see if I needed it and while it was my worst run of the three; oldhorn actually made it to the battle, the emperor didn’t have much left and he died before he could truely support oldhorn. It is sad bc this boss was hyped up before release bc a relic advent was terrifying yet exciting at the time, and what we got was throughly a let down.
(tho the buff to the stage also raises the question: if ponos knows about these types of exploitable/easy stages, I say both bc not only have the made ee harder, they fixed the sniper cheese with fillabuster by increasing his Omni standing range from the base, why haven’t they fixed doremi yet? And the crazier thing is that there is a simple way of them doing so:
Just add an alpacky on boss hit, lazy but it at worst, prevents the cheese from working since even if you got bahamut out of alpacky’s range, alpacky would likely kill the base long before doremi dies.
@@christopherdangelo1292 I literally did Evil Emperor and beat it on the first try, and I didn't have Courier back then because he didn't exist yet. I went back to the stage purely to see how courier would have done and he absolutely demolishes the stage like using a bazooka to kill a house fly...oh yeah I also did Dasli abuse together with Courier because why not
Okay with doremi’s revenge stages now out….
Second thought baby fake should stay as is
I’ve been waiting for someone to make a list like this on RUclips.
Also great video. it’s like a complete guide to all the advents as well
You can also beat Bombergirl in a very similar way to Babyfake, If you can clear the Bores, Then just chain the boss to death with multiple rushers,
50k damage to KB the boss really isn't very much
bro youtubers like this should get more recognition
14:53 could’ve used pork on rice combo if you switched around manic island and kai but that’s ok 😅
Idi:"Face me nerd"
Me:"Sure I can beat you easily, without any stress because I wasted my whole life grinding Battle Cats"
Idi:"You forgot you need to beat all 4 crown SoL stages"
Me:"Ah shit here we go again 💀🗿"
25:05 god lufalan saved me doing a crit on every R.Ost and oneshotting them
only 35 tryes
Same here but on wrath stage
I got bahamut and yuki so I was breezing. I even developed my own strat and it took 14 att
One of the strategies you can use to beat z-onel without painfully having to estimate when to use holyblast is by stacking cadaver cats on the first star peng and timing your hlbast to allow the cadavers to walk into the first z-onel's blindspot, if done correctly the cadavers have a good chance of zkilling the first z-onel and the second one would be a cakewalk
And if bear is something you don’t have, li’l flying is a good enough replacement
As someone with dasli, i find that most of these stages are indeed stages
Dead on debut used to be one of the hardest but not anymore cause all you need now is research combos with Ramen and Wushu and kind of attacker that can clear out the other peons
The final stage is absolute hell without really high lvl/uber critical hitters
I’d argue that daboo is in the easier half, I’ve beaten him with just a bunch of Shigong and Ramen cats w some attackers
Today I defeated Clionel, it was my first advent phase :D
If you time it well, you can defeat it easily with kalisa. I'm so happy :D
Same, Kalisa is so fckn broken dude
And congrats! :D
I defeated the queen B but didn't got the unit now I struggle so hard on the stage again
Well at least I beaten it so I feel accomplished
@Akoris1, that happens to me too
What bad about Kalisa is here range
And is a piece of cake if you have ushiwakamaru,Clionel was my first completed deadly advent thanks to him (first battle,restriction and revenge)
My takes on each Advent Boss
Doremi (Baby Fake)
-No comment.
Bakoo (Bombergirl)
-Pretty easy advent as long as you have iCat which most players have by the time they reach the mid game. However you could still lose if your LD/Wave units aren’t strong enough or plentiful, but still.
Puffsley’s Comet (Puffer Planet)
-Disagree with this placement. Most players don’t have highly boosted Can-Cans, Chill or Catellites by the time they are ready for this stage (which is around late SoL/early UL). Timing your units so you don’t waste money by sending them to die to Puffsley. Also the Weylands stack up quickly, meaning your units have less opportunities to hit the ever growing number of Pengs.
Papuu (Saintly Sister)
-Agree with this. Gotta be careful with the Sir Rels and Papuu’s constant Toxics but players have enough base hp and boost to kill Papuu quickly by the time they start doing Merciless advents.
Evil Emperor (Possessed by Evil)
-Should arguably be lower. From what I understand, Courier and the other egg units are accessible to most players at early UL when they are able to beat the behemoth culling stages, meaning this stage becomes an even bigger joke. Heck even without it, it just takes Can-Can, Slime, Slapsticks, Baha, and Island to take it down no problem.
Black Okame (The Pure Land)
-Depends on your units. If you have Heavy Assault this stage is a breeze, otherwise its still not hard but the Gory waves can mess you up.
Queen B (Honey Trap)
-It has gotten easier since its debut with units like Fishman, Speed talent Can-Can, and more that mid game players can access but still a stage you need good timing with which imo still bumps this stage up. Brollows can mess up your tempo and push.
Possessed Empress (Aku’s Melody)
-Units like Mushroom and Cactus have made it easier but still a long and agonizing level imo. Aku Gories push hard, Empress’ wave is always looming, SBKs, and Doge Darks blocking your shield piercers from getting past Empress.
Sathankhamun (Aku Reincarnation)
-Easy stage. Most players have IDI by the time they reach this stage. Only part you have to keep watch of is the timing for Slime and meatshields to keep Chickful A and Satha from pushing, but it is not hard to do.
Cosmic WanWan (Dogsvile)
-This stage was once a fun challenge where you need to keep track of the cat limit while timing your units to kill Capies and the other peons, now people got Rocc and Courier to wipe the floor out of Capy, removing alot of the challenge in the stage.
Clionel (No Plan A)
-An iconic stage that has not changed much in terms of difficulty other than having slightly more rush units. If your not good with timing Cat Cannon you will have a bad time. This advent still requires at least a few tries to get the timing down but it is always satisfying to get is right.
King Wah Wah (N-1 Grand Prix)
-Hardest advent in the game imo. You need high level normals which if your cat ticket luck sucks, good luck. Zang Roos and SBKs push hard in conjunction with Wah Wah. Also keeping good watch of your wallet and timing Cannon/Sniper right. Not too ridiculously hard but the most challenging advent (until Superfeline tf comes. kek)
Hannya (Realm of Carnage)
-Another classic advent stage. It has gotten easier with having a bunch of new good anti-reds alongside islands but timing Baha for R.Ost is still (mostly) necessary to beat Hannya, however depending on your cat levels you can still take it out even if you mess up the Bahamut timing.
Queen Mother V (I’ll Be Bug)
-The jacked up version of Honey Trap. Your put on a timer with the two Prof. As cause you could straight up lose if they stack up. You have to kill Prof. A as soon as possible while timing your islands and roes to not get cursed. Not much has changed since this stage’s inception, if Courier could hit Prof A then this would be a completely different stage.
Daboo (Dead in Debut)
-A bit too high since changes like the addition of Shigong and Holy Blast make the stage more doable for the average player. Still a stage where you have to keep track of your Bahamut timing, Jamiera levels, etc. Even in 2022 its still one of the harder advent stages at the point most p
Z-Onel (Last of the Dead)
-Got power crept by the new anti-zombie units (namely Cadaver) and stronger Holy Blast. The timing to rush Z-Onel is not hard either, especially nowadays. Would rank this lower.
Kappy Jr. (Flow of the Stream)
-Would agree with this back when Gato, Beefcake and Rocc didn’t exist. They destroy this stage pretty badly, hell if you can get Jaga beforehand its free. If you want to play it the old way, Camera + Pizza with Glass/Vendor and Research Combo.
I think that both clionel and daboo have significantly reduced their difficulty over time, currently I don't consider them that difficult due to ramen cat, a very easy unit to get and on possessed empress I think it should be lower since the boss is himself quite easy and rushable currently and more when this boss came out at a point not so early in the game and by the time you destroy the aku altar, most players have kai for example
@@gaelmtz207tbh empress is a joke now not even because of mushroom and cactus:
It was SUPERCAR that killed the stage for good. With an extra side of fallen bear to ruin the aku gories in the clean up phase
I do agree on the notion that N1 Grand Prix is a badly designed advent stage tho:
Any stage that requires the luck to even level up your cats enough to do the stage is just bad design.
Though personally I have always hated both kappy’s even more (I know there is a bunch of surge powercreep, but in kappy jr.’s case I lacked units like beefcake, and I couldn’t get the rock strat to work on water conservancy to save my life, so I ended up going with the jagando strat, which took a billion tries since the relic doges just kept stacking up, mowing down my meatshields and allowing everything to push, with slime being unable to reach them with all of kappy surging and the lorises. And kawano….. I don’t want to talk about it: I had to true form cactus, cop, filibuster just because the stage was kicking my ass and yet nothing worked, until I eventually and barely won.)
Also also, wahwah by the definition isn’t the hardest anymore:
That reward would go to doremi and babies’ first
uhhh...well this is weird...i cannot beat the easiest out of the list but i cant beat Hanya at 5th place with no effort at all...weird ehh?
Funny enough I struggled on doremi. Couldn’t get that god damn timing right.
I bullied bakoo in it's 3 stages the same day with courier (I have all treasures of Into the Future if you ask):
Bombergirl: Courier lv40, Roe cat lv40-ish (it has dupes but 40 must do the trick) and Bombercat just in case (bony hazard + cheating hearts + rich cat). Also breakerblast for bakoo, it's easier to time
Wrath: Courier, Maximum the fighter lv30, Dread pirate catley lv30 and Bombercat again XD (same combos + rich cat)
Revenge: Courier, Seafarer lv40, A. bahamut lv30 (for sloth) and Bombercat (same combos + rich cat)
These strats were made by Chillhola, just look at his video "Courier is a balanced unit..."
Thank you! Now i know which boss i can defeat with Axe cat
Battle Cats needs VR support. It may not be relevant, but it’s true.
POV: you have juvens:
At number 17 we have No Plan A.
i found queen B to be the easiest by far. I had an uber-boosted fishman when i got there, like 50+10. I also had a couple massive damage up and defense combos so that fishman could survive a sloth hit. queen B dies in 15 seconds or even before the brollows come.
I don't know how I would place Z-Onel because i had chadbear by the time i got to zonel.
I would put relic B at 2nd because that stage requires huge boosts or great ubers in tandem with good strategy. I remember struggling like hell because my cats couldnt get to the prof A.
Everyone gangsta till octaous cat start going backwards
This ranking is based off of how hard the stages are when you have the right units, correct?
basically how hard it is at the moment you are ready for it
I miss the times when Queen B was an hard level.
Hows daboo above bee? Its so much easier, the ultrabuffed prof A's made it super hard until lvl 50, even then still pretty hard
No one else has mentioned this so I will, clionel is free with zamboney
ahh, the nostalgia from this video ✨
I think that zonel deserves a big drop, as it is completely free with chadbear+research. You just lure the star peng, stack bear, hblast the zonel so be bear stack enters the blindspot, and win. Easy. Also, Hannya is honestly one of the easiest advents. Rush strat is extremely potent and it is possibly one of the easiest to complete. Ik the ranking is based on when you have the “right units”, but when you have the right units almost all advents are easy(even kappy, though less so than the rest. He’s kinda the standout). Hannya is almost always the 1st or 2nd advent you beat, and it’s really not difficult.
I mentioned that about z-onel, however, it is not likely you will have cadaver anyway so i didn’t assume you would have cadaver
@@gangykat that is a good point. Though water con is def not nearly as hard as it used to be, and you can always wait to do zonel for an absolutely free win.
It was the last advent boss I beat because I felt that it was the most painful
@@GTSE2005 you can beat it in one try with bear
@@tacotown4598 I actually lost a few times while using chadbear, balrog and baby cat together
With the introduction of courier cat, I think it’s criminal to have Hannya so high. Also I wouldn’t put King WahWah so high but then again I had Kasa Jizo in the level and my normal cats were all level 20+60 which is over levelled I’m pretty sure. I’ve only just done all the deadly advents so I can’t say anything about others, but I think Hannya should be around where Bakoo is and clionel should move down. Don’t get me wrong, clionel is difficult but there is a rush strategy involving courier, fishman, ramen, manic macho legs and manic lion that makes the stage trivial. Overall, I enjoyed playing these stages and all the deadly advents gave some either good units or cool units
Yeah it is a bit wrong to have hannya so high despite all of the power creep against it.
And yeah wahwah’s case it would just be your experience: wahwah is just a poorly designed advent stage. It takes absurds amount of prep to do the stage and that prep is just rng, not to mention even now there’s no powercreep for the stage, even superfeline needs a lot of boosting to even be usable and is far from where wahwah’s point of the game is.
Also cilo is mainly still a challenge since, while simple, the strat has not only been unchanged even now, but the strat itself is actually challenging: there is much more nuance to the bahamut rush to deal with slephnir and getting the dragon into the angel’s blindspot than it seems
Daboo is the fisrt advent I pass cuz of shigong
Tip for queen b honey trap you can use cancan and fishman cat without problem with alien croco if you got courier cat
anyway still needs 100% treasure for alien
So far I’ve beaten 6 advent bosses, and in my opinion, this is from easiest to hardest:
6. Bakoo:
Legit extremely free. Hardest part is just getting iCat so you can beat the stage. Once you get him, just stack ranged attackers and you’ve won
5. Queen B:
Another pretty easy boss I guess. People act like Courier Cat makes it completely free, but I think that even with him it’s still slightly harder than Bakoo. The brollow swarms are the only reason why the level is kind of hard
4. Daboo
This is where my bias starts to set in due to what units I have. Sarukani makes this stage an absolute push over. Shigong also makes this stage really easy. I nearly died when I beat it, but I still first tried it. Really not too bad with the right units
3. Hannya
This is where the stages are actually hard. I would of put this at number 2 if it wasn’t for me owning momoco, who is extremely good against the bore and sometimes Hannya, and also because the boss himself doesn’t have that much health, only having a million. R.Ost is the biggest opp though, god damn does he make the stage hard
2. Cli-Onel
Angelic Gory spam is the only reason why I hate this stage so much. You could be doing perfect, and then they melt though all of your rushers. Similarly to Hannya, everything else isn’t really that bad
1. Wah-Wah
“Units Allowed: Normals and Uber Rares”
That is all you need to see to know what kind of stage this is. Wan-Wan’s stage is pretty similar to Daboo’s, being a big endurance test with a high damage nuke/sniper as the boss. While Wan-Wan isn’t as tanky, he makes up for it with his knockback and not many units who you can use against him. You can only use Normals or Ubers, and not many of them are anti-traitless. Not to mention the mixed enemies, zombies, aliens, black, all of that. I think this is the hardest advent I’ve done so far
You can use roe cat as listed on the fandom wiki, however I personally used it to win (I even have a RUclips video to prove it) so roe cat can work you just gotta have the right team
This is really funny for me as i have beaten most of the advents apart from puffer planet
I'm surprised that shigong cat was not mentioned as a counter to daboo
Wanwan is actually pretty nasty. Cat limit restriction+minute long warp+Capies and sir rels is a pretty nasty combo all things considered. I had talented bondage and d’art for the stage, so it was “relatively” easy, but I can imagine it being very difficult for someone who doesn’t have those units
@xd lol. There’s no rush, the unit isn’t great
@xd rush/cheese it or something
catalite can can courier slime
Yes the boss dies to spamming the 4 units and I’m not even joking that’s how i cleared it
I managed to beat kappy jr. before any of the deadly advent continuations just because of Dark Iz hard carry lol.
I'm at the point where I'm just gonna send myself in against Kappy Jr., my traits are wielding a gun.
my first deadly advent was Queen B. using no tutorial and just spammed cats
Queen bee is the easiest out of all the ones I've done, I haven't done any merciless yet, so far the hardest is king wah wah who I haven't beaten and clionel the rest are fairly easy
Baby Fake is easily the easiest advent boss, there is no argument. Also the reason that this list isn't a good depiction of these stages'true difficulty is depending on the units that you have these stages are either near impossible at times or exceptionally easy. For example, when I did puffer planet, I had Doktor heaven, making the stage a joke. This situation can be present in any of these stages which makes ranking them based on "when you do them" impossible because the point of progression you try these stages is different for everyone.
you forgot to mention Eva-02 in I'll be bug, imo it might be the #1 best uber for that stage, she's fast so if u aren't dumb she won't be cursed, she has LD so she can use queen V as a stepping stone to kill prof. A, and she has massive damage against red to completely demolish the stage
paipai:
@@acone2017nope, eva-02 is infinitely better than pai pai, plus eva has strengthen so she can do 300,000 damage in one hit against reds at level 30.
@@inactivechannel3004paipai is faster and tanks more,while eva 02 only has 100k hp which will be not so good vs prof a
Including author's "right units" Method, Queen B should be much lower, for the victory you need 2 erasers, Catelite, Fishman cat and courier.
Just spam everything and boop, victory
maybe only C.Eraser and courier
@@gangykat i they are both lvl 50
@@gangykat good video bro but Raynard?
@@BC90- not advent
Finally, someone who actually sees the waylands and project a as actually part of the level and not filler cuz while the can warp your attackers to prevent harm the can just as easily make the pengs stack by constantly either warping or damage kb’ing your units
Who do you think is the strongest. A demon. A angle that destroys anything in its path. Clionel. A HUGE zombie with a magic spell book that summon a blast the size of a city building. A king of millions of people. Or a platypus with a stick. Correct the platypus with a stick.
I found Kasli the Bane to be a great help in bringing down Omakoo, with the combination of LD, surge, and curse. Also helped out with the 2nd part of clearing Omakoo
I don't think there's ever a point where kasli the bane isn't a great help
@@abfs5470 Stages where enemies push too hard/she’s outranged. If she can get in on something, especially debuffers, she wrecks house. But if she can’t she’s a waste of a slot
@@abfs5470 cats of the cosmos chapter 3 stages where she just gets destroyed for having "low durability/dmg" or in some of the SOL against SMH's
What the fuck is a omakoo
Uhh, i think i beat kappy jr a bit early, pre ul-mid sol, any ideas what stages chadbear might be useful on?
It's pretty funny how healer cc trivializes a couple of these lol
Clionel was the first advent boss I beat, talented ramen + cat's gift + a. Bahamut + good timing = free win
Daboo is pretty easy ngl
Even without shigong
It doesnt deserve to be harder then roc and relic queen b
To be honest, Queen Pee is super easy, all you need to do is use rusher units and hope that everything goes well, and I powercreep it so hard that I forgot Old Queen is a thing and my 1000 cat energy is used to get slime cat lmao
The gurranteed long curse duration that Queen Mother B has, it has a duration of 111s (almost 2 minutes)! That's too excessive even for a Relic enemy, I hope PONOS considers nerf the curse duration or chance some day.
111s or 20s its the same thing
No unit will survive that long anyways
(the point of the duration is that it permenantly curses your units)
Fun fact: queen mother v represents the virtue ,,patience,, hence her description plus she has the highest curse duration hence whise you have to have ,,patience,, in order to beat the level
@@mateistegarescu8351 my favourite virtue: pantince
King Wah Wah is such a bitch with that restriction. Every other advent is relatively easy, but since normals have been so historically powercrept, you basically have a neutered lineup unless you have some good Ubers
So i imagine you wouldn’t want to know what they did with doremi do you?
@@christopherdangelo1292 I had balrog by the doremi revenge stage, so I beat it first try. Stupid restriction
@@JNReditz Yeah I did the exact same thing.
Worst part about a stage like this is that it likely is going to be immune to powercreep.
The main reason why I view babies’ first as worse than even villainous gods despite the latter being harder is that at least with villainous gods, the stage is open to powercreep, as is for other stages such as soractes.
Doremi doesn’t really have to deal with that: it can just sit back and relax alongside wahwah as they laugh at the other advents and difficult stages as they get powercrept and made easier
I've only done the deadly advents, but heres my ranking based on my skill level (take from that what you will). Hardest to Easiest (in terms of stage but also on their own)
■Wahwah: The triple knockback and restrictions make it basically a unit level check if you don't have ubers that can hit him. His large omni can ruin your day as well.
■Clionel: Her damage is pretty high, and the peons in the stage can make it a bit of an rng fest.
■Bakoo: The freeze can ruin your life if it procs while the bores are out. A-Bahamut chaining is super easy though.
■Daboo: Shigong + Ramen. Biohazard+Bony Bone (or any medium research) and tiny will (lil tank + Camera). (Free with rock revengers, but that's irrelevant)
■Hanya: The hardest part is R Ost. Courier is a free unit that obliterates the stage (you can use Sushi to hold hanya in place and protect from the bores). If you can time A Bahamut and Have courier, you beat the stage congrats :)
??■Queen B: Idk how to rank her really, because with fishman, A Bahamut, courier, Can Can, and SO many other units can trivialize the stage. Anyone that waits and gets CotC treasures first will murder her even more given her amount of trait counters.
daboo is honestly so easy, i beat him with only a few units, the main ones were ramen and shigong, very accessible cats
I dont know why it took me so many attempts to beat Bakoo, like it wasnt getting knocked back by the courier and housewife cats on the field for some reason
How do you deal with Sir Puffington in Aku Reincarnation if you don't have Idi:N ......
Zonel and queen mother v are by far the hardest ones, flow like the stream is super easy if you know what you are doing or just do the super easy instant win cheese, water conservancy however is very tough
So im about to try Ill be bug, I am freshly out of cotc 1 and right after mina in sol
I have phonoa and saki, both lvl 40
do I have a chance?
The level is easy if u can deal with professor A , so maybe
@@محمودمحمد-ر8ج2ك i just got pai pai, is she good for this?
can you tell me what level your cats and what units are you using for Hannya?
i don’t know since this was a long time ago
Ok funny story. I beat hannya with a totally improvised setup. I used Icat and Roe per usual, but i also used courier, along with Balalan Pasalan and Babel
Funny thing is, babel takes care of the R.osts and Balalan Pasalan outranges hannya, freezing the bastard from a comfy range. Still dread the hard versions.
Wait, youre supposed to have idi already when fighting the corrupted emperor? I hadnt even finished 2 crown SOL and i best it in one go with balrog
it’s way possible without
Fucking ironic that I beat all of the advents in the game yet baby fake is the only one I haven't beaten BECAUSE BAHAMUT WON'T EVER HIT THE MS ANGEL
literally just finished SoL yesterday and i still don't have hip hop cat
When should I do these? Just finished chapter 3 itf moon
i feel like metal cat would be OP in honey trap, cause it would stop the sloth from moving for a long time (as long as you control the other peons)
Bro Just use can can and fish man
Possessed by evil for me is the one stage that I can describe with 100000x easier with rich cat
Daboo should be lowered imo, since baby face one-cycled allowed in the list then daboo cheese should be allowed too.
and wouldn't be queen b honey trap easier since seafarer can freeze queen bee and don't have to deal with stupid timing anymore?
Bruh why was your timing so good in honey trap but horrible in I'll be bug
Cannot wait until kappy meets my level 50 dark gao
kappy sr: dont worry my son, they will harm you no more
Player: Too late I have the rest of epicfest with me
jagando strats with gato amigo carried me through Flow like the stream
11:53, heavy assault cat max level and talents can solo black Okame, at least in the first stage.
To make doremi even easier, you could get a sniper the deadeye for the kb up
I think every level should be ranked without ubers, unless the level has a Uber that needs to be mentioned, with pai pai or balrog on hannya
I think kappy isn't the toughest advent. Seriously, is spending 75 NP on Gato Amigo that difficult? Along with boulder he allows you to stall as long as you want. Just bring a cheap, spammable unit to do the damage and you'll be perfectly fine. Also, he said Empress is easy while using a lvl 50 ( I assume ) talented Kai. bruh
Yes, spending 75 NP on Gato Amigo is that difficult. And Empress is easy even without ubers
Kappy first when rock completely deletes any form of challenge? Nah
I have an issue with your methodology when it comes to your disclaimer at the beginning of the video. You said in your disclaimer that the ranking is based on how difficult it would be based on when you would expect people to take it on (not word for word, but verbatim). But multiple times, you mention, "Just use Idi to take out x enemy" as if you expect players to have Idi during the point at which they would take on the advent bosses.
I beat all of the advent bosses before touching UL or even 2 crown SoL. And i'm pretty confident in saying that 99% of players will have beaten all of the advent stages before acquiring Idi, and most players likley dont even bother with getting Idi in the first place. I personally dont see Idi as a necessity until you begin taking on 4 crown UL stages. Also, in my opinion, if you don't beat the advents before taking on 4 crown SoL, you're doing things out of order as all of the advent cats can be used to help with the 4 crown restriction (obviously some cats are useless garbage). So, any ranking where you make it seem like Idi invalidates a challenge of the stage, such as Puffington in Rashomon, are kind of short-sighted. Yes, Idi wipes Puffington out, but most players won't be able to use that interaction. But hey, that's just my opinion, and at the end of the day, this video is entirely opinion based anyway, so whatever.
Regardless of where my beliefs and opinions differ, I always find these videos to be rather interesting, so please do continue to make them.
Imo the best uber to beat kappy jr. Is dark iz because of her massive damage to traitless and surge immune and cheap cost.
my 1st advent was hanya, followed by bakoo then daboo then alien b then clionel
why is nobody talking about where bahamut came from in baby fake?
24:50 i doubt that , the boss is R.ost not the hannya
The unique advent stage can pass in one attempt is daboo of dead...
No plan a is cheesed with soul ember legend rare or Juvens true form
No plan A: *exist*
Juvens: "Let me solo it"
even courier can cheese no piss a lmao
Ganglion is my personal fav uber he carried me through eoc and itf
Did u say i can use kuu(my first uber)?
i really hate king wahwahs restriction, i've been playing for around a month and a half and i've already done as many advents as they showed up to me, daboo clionel queen bee hanya bomber girl, and i've managed to complete the revenge for clionel lmao with 34 level fisherman and 30 level bahamut , i think around 34 level maglev (no kalisa no anything), i felt like it was possible even if it was hard af, but my wahwah litterally forces me to have good ubers or wait for 2 years to get decent levels for my normal cats ( half of my normal cats aren't even true formed yet), incredibly dumb restriction imo holy i wanna rush through the f game i don't have enough time
I rushed the stage with level 20+30 units, whats your units?
Could Courier be useful at I’ll Bee Bug?
yes
I love your videos
Disagree with Hannya's placement. Courier destroys that stage. Don't even need level 30 Manics anymore, nor gacha units. Would place him below Angel Clionel. Otherwise, great placements 👍👍
Wow balrog has alot of usage in advent stages
Since they are boss stages they often don't have a lot of peons so yeah
a lot*
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About Z-Onel: just upgrade your holy blast at lvl 20 and then just count (you must hit this purple shit 10 times before it dies)...........
Оr I'm wrong? Is each hit of holy blast lvl 20 takes away 10% of zombies hp?
And also my first advent was queen bitch and the second advent was the old queen)
Me:I wonder why papuu is in 14th place
Also me:(has ushiwakamaru) :)
Heavily disagree with majority of this list, but why would you have Idi for Sak but not Cad bear for Zonel?
sak is borrowed footage, and you don’t need idi, just chip with bahamut, slime and btrain, and yes, if you wait to get chadbear it would be nice, but that is not the general strat for the average player, who is likely to beat z-onel first before kappy revenge, but it all depends.
@@gangykat Both mentioned units absolutely destroy both respective stages, so it is severely unfair for you to have Idi in sak and not bear in Zonel.
@@Hide_on_bush_ml it is not about me, I can explain that both levels are severely easier with those respective units, but manageable without
@@gangykat Well you’re ranking Sak much lower than Zonel whilst showing a gameplay of Sak with Idi. This is extremely misleading.
@@gangykat tho idi varies the experience between rashomon being a joke and absolutely hell to do
No Plan A is number 7? The fact that you ranked it that high, although you could simply spam ramen cat and almost no others, is truly mind boggling.
thats only if you have BOOSTED ramen
not even my level 80 ramen can solo it
@@gangykat my level 67 ramen can, just need to use biohazard and bony bone
and when the angelic gories are spammed, just a bahamut them
@@tappapa yes
I beat my first deadly today and it was hannya so yea i got that win under my belt turns out that pai pai was worth grinding up to her true form... the fact i only have what like 6 cats true formed is a pain and 2 of em are ubers ima just glad that kai and pai pai are useful