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Here we go 9:51 A3s it is normally in theory close fold, not sure about ante effect. However, this line is underbluffed by villain, his sizings in every street also tells that he have a strong hand, you said he is tight so he have less bluffs and you are over 200bb deep, I would assume this is like -50bb punt. Nice videos btw 👌
Year 2003 JJ on river:
Raising my house, wife & kids on the river. Expecting to always getting called and always win when getting called.
Year 2024 JJ on river:
I’m either getting AA-trapped in a weird node or he folds QQ/KK anyway if I raise so I obv only call 1/5th pot😐🔫
lmfao liiiiiiterally on the money
Accurate analysis. No irony
*Easty cooler reaction inserted
lmao I can only imagine
how the hell does JJ not value on the river?!? not even a small raise wtf
He's completely lost his mind
confirmed 😭
The A3cc hand is definitely just me going Call, Call, Fold. I think he is bluffing approximately as often as I was getting laid in my Teens!
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About time Spraces runs into a suckout. Biggest sunrunning nit in poker
lmao now now
AGREED
That JJ hand is incredible.
loool
Loved every single hand here. Great job as always. I think we all agree though that KK will always be a snap jam otr
thank you Paul! haha yeah KK never not shoving
sick call with JJ in last hand. i would jam always. Are regs at 1knl that good or you think this is RTA?
haha I’m certain this player isn’t cheating - they just have my number I think!
Love your videos man. Just commenting to help the algorithm, there’s nothing I can say in terms of strategy that you don’t already know. Keep up the good work my G, watching from Australia also!
Can I just say, I respect the fact you will post hands you lose in. It adds legitimacy to your videos.
much appreciate mate ❤️❤️❤️
Bad call with jacks from vilain, but your line is also very bad…small cbet flop , check turn , half pot river seems fine and sometimes gets the job done(vilain can shove the river with sets and aces up)…if you like to mix it with some checks in these flops , you NEED to bet the turn small to build the pot( you can have some KQ there and sometimes some gutshots with 56 and 9-10)…interesting hand🤔
my line isn’t the best agreed. not really a fan of your half pot suggestion but I do think putting in more money somewhere is the play
I usually struggle to sit through a full poker video but you must be doing something right as I always watch yours till the end. Thanks Ben :) Last hand what is your calling range if he shoves?
that’s very kind! appreciate that a lot. I’ll mix call with all Ax I think. very easy for ip to find too many Jx to bluff imo
Hi Ben, loving these, even moreso because I am dabbling in the $25nl ante games and can't find any content for them. I'm struggling a lot with pre flop sizes. With opens, I have no idea which sizes to use by position or by number of ante's in the middle. Secondly, I have no clue really about 3bet sizing vs the vast array of open sizes I am seeing. Any simple tips for pre flop given how many players are using wildly different pre flop strategies.
hey mate, really glad you’re enjoying the videos! yeah so it’s tricky cus preflop isn’t really solved, or should I say not many people know the correct ranges (myself included). I guess you wanna treat stacks about 66% of the bb’s people have and also because of dead money generally sizing up everywhere (by like 33%) is a good rule of thumb!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Thanks Ben. It does seem like nobody really knows what they are doing on the $25nl streets, very much myself included. I'll be watching with very keen interest any hands you play in that game type and listening even more carefully!
Don't try the abrupt outro & let autoplay save you from the roasting.
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how anyone could just call with jj shocking
hahaha got me very very good
Ahh Bena, why you gotta do our man Sprases like that? 😂 Nasty, nasty river.. Love to see that first A high hero call though and hoping we get to see that graph trending in the right direction next video. Great content as always bro and good luck on the tables 🍻
hahahaha ngl felt kinda bad for him! let’s see what the next week brings 📈
i love you BenaBaldBeat❤❤❤
myyy guy
Safe to say villain is not calling AJss ATss when you have As in your hand :) 3:35
haha trueee
That's not the point, though. Bluffs don't want to block call-folds.
A3cc - think all the justifications beyond "he is an admittedly tight player" prob should be disregarded. If they are tight and you think they are underbluffing, who cares if we overfold river, it's just the best thing to do. Guessing you know that, and thought he still would have enough bluffs for the odds to call sometimes. but idk, if we are justifying this as a low FQ call, it might just be a pure fold vs someone we suspect might be underbluffing
JTs hand - if you can show up with JTs, you can show up with A7s, A8s well. the "Whopper" in the SB changes things drastic. and he cant know you always jam 88 on turn. so he loses to maybe 1 combo. clear jam imo
yeah the pot odds are naturally a bit part of the reason I called. but as you said if they’re truly under bluffing then odds mean nada. KKK obv a shove yeah lol. I was joking but semi serious (only cus I know my exact range!) I wouldn’t have A7 or A8 fwiw
Why you gotta go and do our boy Sprases like that
sometimes you gotta see a flop
Sometimes you gotta own the fish (hit your draw)
I love the word "whopper" as a synonym for whale. ❤
hahaha it’s excellent
In the first hand when you bet half pot on the turn you only leave yourself $382 behind and the pot is $1290. Surely this is not a large enough amount behind so that your bluffs have the desired fold equity?
theory doesn’t care about how much you leave behind on a another street, it cares about maxing the ev of the option you have there and then!
You still have some fold equity vs busted draws and you get incredible price on your river bluffs. But i agree it’s abit akward Stack to pot ratio.
What are your river bluffs?
@@robdilob123 Sure but I don't want a good price on my bluffs, I want fold equity. When he 4bets cold and barrels off he is 100% polarized and that warrants larger bet sizings. The issue begins where he uses such a large 4bet size preflop. When he uses that size he should either use a geometric size for just under pot and only bet two streets, i.e. jamming the turn, or go with smaller bets on flop and turn and leave a larger bet like just under pot for the river.
After 4betting cold his range is pretty narrow and he should just use the weakest hands in that range as bluffs; i.e. ATs/A5s without clubs would be my guess as to what a solver would suggest. The value range that barrels off is gonna be approximately AQs, QQ, KK, AA -18 combos, so having 8 combos of bluffs is about right for balance if the bet size is just under pot on the turn/river. You could also make an argument for using KJs (except clubs) for bluffs as it blocks KQ and QJ and unblocks the front door flush.
@@BenaBadBeatPoker dude come on that is obviously not true. To be balanced it is necessary to be balanced across all streets; you cannot do that if you are only thinking about the current street. That's why when you set up a solver it's necessary to enter bet sizings for each street - which it then balances perfectly.
@@BenaBadBeatPokerTheory absolutely cares about stack sizing. Bet sizing manipulation on earlier streets to achieve a desired outcome (fold or call) is literally one of the most important aspects of poker theory...
When villain pots the turn on the A3cc hand, I feel like this sizing is often begging for a fold but trying to make itself look like a value hand that's committing itself on a super wet board, and isn't very nutted, but this is entirely player dependent - some players are very straightforward here and just always have like good 10x and JJ-KK here, sometimes AA unblocking the suits on board, and are telling you exactly the aforementioned story it looks like. I think A3 is just a bit too low down because I'm not surprised to ever see AJ-AK or some chop Ax here even if it isn't a good spot it jam A-high... I definitely call the first A-high hand on the river there almost always.
genuinely mate, this is one of the first non-results-oriented analyses, and I fucking rate it! I agree with you completely that this bet size isn’t (to the contrary of many others) just nutted overpairs. I also agree that we can justify pure folding this hand otr too
@BenaBadBeatPoker word appreciate that man, I try to be as objective and open minded as possible about this game. I'm still learning all the time. I have a hard time talking to most people about it on this platform bc most people aren't pros or nerds who've studied the game for years like I have and I assume you have and that lends itself to very results-oriented thinking... but I also see people disregarding results entirely and I feel like no two hands are identical pre-result (I don't think things occur perfectly in a vacuum in poker but you need to be able to identify a differentiating factor) so sometimes that result is important to prove whether our presumptions about something were accurate. But you get people who are either completely results oriented or they've turned GTO into a bit of a religion so they can justify any bad play and dismiss the result which is also a problem. I appreciate that you are modest about whether you have it right or not in spots and can deal with criticism. Keep making content I'm here for it
Ace three
Ace three
What you gonna do
What you gonna do when Ben calls you
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Its always a great day when Bena drops a vid! In the A3s hand, with the info you gave about that specific villain it seems like you should just fold all but the best bluff catchers right? It would be really cool to see some sort of database analysis looking at river bluff catching spots like this and see how you are doing over a huge sample.
I can tell you my rough numbers, I have called many and I have won very fucking few 🤣
Love the AK call, but that A3 call seems farrrrrr too speculative Bena. Flop size up from tight reg is never a good start 😅
@@BenaBadBeatPoker 😂
7:42 I block a huge part of villian’s bluff range. Also my hand loses to some bluffs. A clear fold to me.
definitely don’t think we lose to bluffs!
“i think he should actually check back set of kings…” proceeds to regularly call off stacks against perceived strong ranges with Ah 😂
lmaooo
I love it like always my man. Cheers from France
appreciate that bro! ❤️
That QQ vs A3 is almost always a fold for me, especially if he's tight like you said. #1 you're holding clubs which makes it much less likely that he has clubs #2 many of his bluffs are still beating you like AK/AQ #3 the only hands you're beating is something like JQss or KQss which if you're saying he's tight then he's probably not 3 betting those pf?
holding clubs has to be positive as Oop doesn’t bluff those imo. I also don’t see AK or AQ ever choosing to bluff river, it would just be a very bad line from them!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Maybe it's the Omaha player in me, but facing a runout like that where all of the draws bricked, you don't want to be holding the cards your opp might conceivably bluff. If you also don't believe they would bluff AK or AQ here, then what did you think they had that you could beat? SB isn't 3 betting KQ/JQ pf if you had the read they're tight.
Why not raise flop with the A3cc?
definitely a good option
actually though in the JThh I always thought shoving the turn here would be terrible because you can run into Ax and some Kx of hearts so frequently and we’re effectively dead v those hands. But then again, I’m a bad reg..
haha yeah that would definitely make shoving very bad!
Great video! Love the analysis
thank you!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker just went through and watched some of your older videos after this. Out of curiosity how come youre playing much smaller games now?
watch the very first video and it’ll make sense mate!
I'm assuming 3x sizing in the GG 9 max deep stack with antes games is fine? I'm playing lower stakes and found we regularly go 3 handed or more with normal sizes so started raising 6-8bbs preflop in these games.
yeah 3x is fine. I think even bigger is probably optimal but that’s the strat I’m playing atm!
oh god the final hand is so amazing i neaerly nerdgasmd
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hes completely lost his mind eheh
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Stefan concluded that ppl on nl1k GG overcalling and underbluffing. Mb its only against him, LULE
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Basically everywhere
A3s hand, against tight player jam turn is better, beacuse he is not going to follow bluffs on river. That is good exploit against tight players
noted 🙏🙏
I would like it a lot if you added the gtowiz results for the HU hands in these vids lke saulo costa does for his vids :) enjoying the content anyway though!
I do add some pio sims occasionally but also I know too many screenshots of solvers loses viewers. I will keep this in mind though - thank you for your feedback!
Is your full time job online poker ?
yes. coming up to 15 years now!
see ya boy TonnaMunz think that was the screen name is on the IRL streets on twitch. the fans want Bena Tonna skate content
Its the year 3000. Online poker is run by bots and has been long dead ever since the big security breach back in 2350 by some kid and his quantum computer in his parents basement. Whales have gone extinct and you find yourself in a rare live poker game with an expected winrate of less than a tenth of a bb. You hear they have no rakeback. You hear stories of a friends friend about some dudes who had career long downswings. Great players nevertheless.
lmfaoooo this is incredible. get Schwarzenegger on board cus this is gunna be a banger
@@BenaBadBeatPoker ... a shiver runs down your spine. You find a piece of paper with preflop ranges next to you on the floor. You notice they are outdated cause they didnt include a 5% river donking range in some random river spot. You start reminiscing about the old times. Then suddenly you hear a beep from your phone. Its GTO wizard, your 3k monthly subscription must be renewed. Fortunately you got lucky on some shitcoin back in 2987. As you are at home studying poker you notice that some of your betting frequencies have been off by >0.07%.
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About the a3s hand at 7:04, wouldn't you consider his turn sizing a bit more oriented to value?,I haven't seen the solution,but in that situation I would expect the solver to go allin a fair amount of times given the spr and vulnerability of most hands,I think if villain (being on the nitty side,as you mentioned),decided to bluff the turn,he would use the allin size and not just a pot bet to end up in the river having almost no fold equity.
hmm it’s hard to draw accurate conclusions about the turn size because you might argue that they use pot to max fold equity their QJ or whatever they may have (not worrying about the fact they only have 550 behind otr). I think it’s quite uncommon for people to find turn jam here but I guess it could happen on occasion. I think what I’m saying is that I don’t feel strongly that turn size is that notable that we can make assumptions. you also have to remember that we don’t know the reads that villain has on me
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Thanks for the answer!,so if we assume he could have tried to use his QJ as a bluff to that size on the turn, we could also assume that he would continue bluffing on the river? that's my concern,the fact that his turn sizing seemed to me kind of biased towards value,(if not,I believe he would have preferred to bluff following and all-in turn line ,instead of pot turn and 1/3 line on the river) .By the way,I've just checked the wizard and basically we only have turn jams (36%) and checks (60%) .About the reads,yeah you are right,we don't know that ,my assumptions are only based on the fact that he is a reg on the nitty side as you mentioned.
edit: Checked the wizard again,and those results apply when we bet a bit more on the flop ,so we end up ni the turn overbetting allin at those frequencies for close 1.2x the pot.So,if the bet on the flop is smaller, we end up in the turn with an spr close to 2x (similar to the video),and still the predominant size by a big margin is all-in.Just wanted to point that out.
yeah interesting observation about shoving turn and thanks for sim output. I do suspect that they would follow through QJ (no fd as well as bdfd) very often, if not always!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker Thanks again for the answer mate and gl!
9:37 Nuts SHOCK
completely shocking
I Guss I would call the A3cc because of villains turn bet. Looks like a combo draw or a set but it's hart to make 3 of a kind so I would call...
Knowing the results now I still think a call is right. I wish I would play QQ this way. But the question is would you get the rest out of him if you improve to a flush? Obv if you hit your wheel you get it all
I think this player will call QQ otr tbh. I don’t think they’d shove it though! thank you for your honest analysis 🙏
I'd be so tilted not wining a stack set over set, can't even imagine :))))
hahaha sometimes you’re not destined to win a stack
How have you not got more subs mate give it time 👍🏻
❤️ slowly building bro
Should the opponent really fold 78s here? @6:55
maybe not!
Seems silly to mix call with catchers vs players who you perceive to be tighter. I think A3clubs is a punt. Yes you get good pot odds but who cares if they are underbluffing. The counter argument is this board in particular might be overbluffed because of textural considerations 2 Flushdraws and some straight draws missed etc but the key data point is this guy went Big on Flop and Potted the turn.
just because you perceive someone as tighter does not mean they will not find bluffs and/or mixing a combo is highest ev. also, big bet flop = standard, big bet flop ott = quite standard. we can’t draw concrete conclusions here imo. however, you’re right on this occasion 🤣
Maybe you should switch the Game to PLO or play Blackjack 🤷♂️
for sure! where shall I play
You have 1 combo that beats him- you’re in a line where you don’t have a pre determined range due to the rec you can’t just assume his jam is bad
MW you probably fold flop with 65hh if you have it, you might peel some Axs that has some 2 pair and you might decide to trap some sets. If you CC trap AA pre here sometimes then that’s another story.
yeah I was kinda kidding - his jam is beyond standard. but it’s just funny when you know my range that it becomes a check somehow lol
5:54 shows all the blurred names
thanks. it’s ok since I was complimenting that reg for being good haha
100% of the time I would jam KK in villains spot there...if you fold every worse hand your call is not profitable on the turn or im completely lost?😅
hahaha you’re definitely right, I was kidding ❤️
@@BenaBadBeatPoker damn u got me...I feel so ashamed almost wanted to delete the comment 😶🌫️
Thats hilarious. A couple of hours after watching this i had the exact same spot but decided to bet flop and check turn with a block river bet and got shoved on by JJs. Of course much lower stakes though. Board ran rainbow A567J
haha glad you won the stack 🤣
i guess you have given up the screen name hiding, lmao XD
ffs not intentionally!
The rakeback and rewards program at ACR (WPN) is pretty good. I am primarily a tournament player but I can rack up $200 in rakeback, $250 bonus from the beast leaderboard, and $95 tournament ticket satellite with
that’s decent! I play some WPN but there’s very little action at 1k+ during the day and I don’t wanna grind nights 🫡
5:47 How is that a very well played 54 of spades? It's a bad 3 bet, a bad call to a 4 bet, a butchered chase of a gutshot and backdoor flush draw, and a ridiculous bluff on the river with little fold equity given the SPR.
But I guess that's what separates me from good players!
hahaha it’ll be mix 3b, pure call or close to it vs 4b once they’ve 3b. flop can’t really fold, turn definitely can’t fold with double gutter and river you go to jail if you check back this combo!
@@BenaBadBeatPokerCrazy man
How can 48 vpip be called tight reg?
thats their vpip since they joined the table not overall vpip. would be either few hands or hot run of cards
yeah teeraw nailed it!
its not gone well
confirmed
the booger most certainly will jump out of your left nostril by the time the video is over.
Looking forward to the poker side of the video but maaaan I feel like betting on the booger escape =))))
Cheers mate, love your videos
it’s the ring light shining into my nose actually mate 🤣
@@BenaBadBeatPoker yeah I know. For a second though it fooled me into a booger. Just having fun mate, not being serious at all from the start. Can't belive you fell for my bluff
4th
barely acceptable
Hi Benna just wanted to ask if you miss read the board when he has KK you know he Actualy has 3 kings for a set not anything else 😂😂😂😂😂
VAMOS algorithm engagment
lmaoooo but does three of a kind kings beat a straight???
@@BenaBadBeatPokerwanna see the sim where your allowed to cold call JTs pre 👻👻👻👻
it’s in all of them mate, you never seen them?!
@@BenaBadBeatPoker you know I can’t read 🤣🤣🤣💙💙💙
lmfao
JJ flat giving me RTA vibes or maybe im just ass
Nah I think vs missed RB you just instantly assume top set and he's decided on hero "just crawl". funny spot though
haha I don’t think so, just a soul read
A3s 哈哈哈哈哈😂
good call???
A3 very bad call sir.
sometime you call and lose
A3cc flop size is massive red flag. If you say he's tighter reg at start 75% flop you just guna see QQ JJ so fucking much. Very natural just half pot qjhh it feels like?
Kk 20% flop feels too small Vs fish. River funny 1 but yeah check seems good. You Can't have a8s I don't think and might 4bet aq or not calling river
the flop size is basically as standard as it gets, doesn’t feel remotely a red flag to me. turn however there is definitely potential cause for concern.
I’m not sure which KK hand you’re talking about?
@@BenaBadBeatPoker I thought you said in video 50% was standard. Agree full pot double flush draw turn feels greedy
The kk check from the youtuber!
coment
my man
lfg
Bro, I stay away from fast fold poker. Obviously it's better for streaming purposes but table selection and lower volume is where it's at if you're a modern day grinder. And I've experienced the same thing you're going thru atm over and over throughout the years. But much like the stock market when you step back, my bankroll has always grown. I ain't telling you anything you don't know. Just keep making the best tactical plays you can and let the results fall where they fall until it turns around. G/L and thanks for the content
hey mate! thanks for the kind words of support. yeah I don’t play fast anymore but I have played like 1.5million hands of 500z and 200z haha. but I will absolutely be continuing to play what I deem good poker and as you said, good times always come! thanks mate, take it easy