No they are not. Old 18V have 5s cell configuration, two of them in series go for 36V. Max voltage therefore 42V. Based on fact that they labeled this as 40V, not 36 or 37, I would assume it is 11s, so its max voltage would be close to 46,2V. Of course it is no problem to make an adapter, but you'd still have to deal with less usable energy and weaker performance. I may be wrong though, havent had a chance to test one of these yet.
Have any of you had problems with this battery? I had a few examble of one problem, on model HR003 battery after some time of working it stop working and I need recharge it and after that it work again, but on battery tester it says that electronic are faulty but it still works. We will see is this some factory error or coincidence...
We still need much more basic tools on 40v platform like multitool, sander, small size blower etc... I'd like to switch all my tools to 40v platform but but still a bit reluctant.
Makitas 18 V platform seems to lack DRM systems which allowed 90% of all Chinese knock offs to come with "Makita 18V batteries". The new 40V system seems to have this fixed by having DRM integrated ("digital communication between battery and tool") and we all need to buy new tools and batteries. In contrast the old 230V electric tools my grandfather used like table saw, hand saw, drill, grinder are all still fine and work with the same electricity after 60 years.
Very well explained I must say. I can see you guys didn't want to full tear apart the newer 40v units but are they still supplied with Samsung cells in the 4amp 40v - being the Samsung 40T cells? Thanks, watching from the UK.
all that is fine, but what cells are used?? is it a Sony VTC variant? or Samsung 20R, 25R, or some LG variant..show the god damn label...you know the context and what your headline says.. look inside and show the cell specs? if somebody is going to put this kind of money down for these packs, one would like to know what kind "of the shelf" cells are used (logic) but for some strange reason you don't show this, even though it would be as simple as showing a closeup.(what does the wrapping say) what a massive fail, and shocking that you cant come to this conclusion yourself, as when you open up to show the cells, maybe it would be relevant to show the cells (yousee) = model number!!
80v mower would be awesome. Are they sticking with single battery 40v tools or do you think they will release some 80v ones too like the 18v/36v range?
I cannot buy 40v batteries where I live. So I am trying to build myself. I have 2 concerns: 1- What should be the amperage level of the charging board? 30A, 40a? 2- Where is the wattage control mechanism of the device? I mean the card which controls how many current the motor can ask for. If it is in the battery then I shouldn't build a battery. If in the device itself, then it's alright. I think it is in the device because every device has its own requirements and limitations. Does anyone know answers to any of these questions?
At least 300-400, which for non professional works should be at least 6-7 years. My 18v battery is 2 years old with around 50-60 cycles, no capacity loss at all.
Hey Tim. Do the tools perform the same with either 40v battery? Id love to see twin 40v stationary tools like 10' mitre saw and table saw. Makita go with ac adapter for large tools which would be great for dust extraction.
Great question there is a minuscule difference, more noticeable where more torque is required. Not noticeable driving in a 50mm chipboard screw but when driving in 200mm coach screws into sleeper the 4Ah arrives about a third of a second faster. It's only noticeable with a camera or stopwatch but it is different. There's probably a debate to be had about whether you want to carry the extra weight all day too, but the 4Ah will get you a better runtime.
I've seen an XGT drop saw is available in Japan and it looks very nice, they are adding something like 50 more tools to this platform in 2021 so watch this space.
How many amperages and percents does the flow of One 40v XGT battery charge and discharge. Does it discharge 30% equivalent to 19 AH ( amperage hour ) and it charge 10% AH equivalent to how many amperage hour or could it charge and discharge more ?. I look forward to know its charge and discharge limit. I hope you could feedback soon if you are free. I just refer. Because base on flow of charge and discharge I can calculate charge and discharge time. Could you help me. Thank you on the same. Have nice day and enjoy
Why exactly are these batteries 40V? These have a similar architecture, 10s1p instead of the older 5s2p, and somehow they are not called 37V? I guess it's fairly arbitrary to use nominal voltage in the first place...
You know, larger number is always better in marketing and sales. And the 18 V platform seems to lack DRM systems which allowed 90% of all Chinese knock offs to come with "Makita 18V batteries". The new 40V system seems to have this fixed by having DRM integrated ("digital communication between batter and tool") and we all need to buy new tools and batteries. In contrast the old 230V electric tools my grandfather used like table saw, hand saw, drill, grinder are all still fine and work with the same electricity after 60 years.
Between Makita, Milwaukee M18 and M12 and Dewalt I've got like 50 batteries lol. I'm staying on the current platforms until they're all dead and won't charge.
Makita 40 volt batteries are expensive because they are expensive because other battery protection technology uses their machines. Makita batteries have a decryption system to unlock Makita appliances that work. It's Makita's marketing plan to sell batteries. I can tell you that I'm not okay with Makita 40 Volt batteries.👎👎👎
Makita really need a cordless tablesaw. Other manufacturers have them, come on Makita!
open the battery but didn't bother read the exact cell model to us?
Thanks just save me two minutes
Basically these are two 18v packs in series. An adapter for two 18v batteries to use on 40v tool would be great.
No they are not. Old 18V have 5s cell configuration, two of them in series go for 36V. Max voltage therefore 42V. Based on fact that they labeled this as 40V, not 36 or 37, I would assume it is 11s, so its max voltage would be close to 46,2V. Of course it is no problem to make an adapter, but you'd still have to deal with less usable energy and weaker performance. I may be wrong though, havent had a chance to test one of these yet.
Great video straight to the point
Have any of you had problems with this battery? I had a few examble of one problem, on model HR003 battery after some time of working it stop working and I need recharge it and after that it work again, but on battery tester it says that electronic are faulty but it still works. We will see is this some factory error or coincidence...
We still need much more basic tools on 40v platform like multitool, sander, small size blower etc... I'd like to switch all my tools to 40v platform but but still a bit reluctant.
Makitas 18 V platform seems to lack DRM systems which allowed 90% of all Chinese knock offs to come with "Makita 18V batteries". The new 40V system seems to have this fixed by having DRM integrated ("digital communication between battery and tool") and we all need to buy new tools and batteries. In contrast the old 230V electric tools my grandfather used like table saw, hand saw, drill, grinder are all still fine and work with the same electricity after 60 years.
I'd definitely hold off changing from the 240v sp6000 plunge saw if there was a chance of a 40v version of the 2x18v dsp600.
XGT will eat up LXT little by little imo . Plungesaw XGT will most probably come
They've already got a regular circ saw with a guiderail base and AWS. So, that's pretty much a plunge saw in my books.
@@stianjohansen9281 It would be nice to have a 185/190mm blade instead of the 160/165mm track saws that are out there if making a 40v version.
I would like to see an adapter to use 2 18volt batteries
Very well explained I must say.
I can see you guys didn't want to full tear apart the newer 40v units but are they still supplied with Samsung cells in the 4amp 40v - being the Samsung 40T cells?
Thanks, watching from the UK.
samsungs are blue in the 18v 5ah but green is the sony/murata cells in the 18v battery i think they use sony cells
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I would love to see replacement to my trusty Makita DUC353 battery chainsaw, using pair of these new XGT batteries! Any rumours out there?
Be watching later this year, There's a number of dual 40v tools coming
all that is fine, but what cells are used??
is it a Sony VTC variant? or Samsung 20R, 25R, or some LG variant..show the god damn label...you know the context and what your headline says.. look inside and show the cell specs?
if somebody is going to put this kind of money down for these packs, one would like to know what kind "of the shelf" cells are used (logic) but for some strange reason you don't show this, even though it would be as simple as showing a closeup.(what does the wrapping say)
what a massive fail, and shocking that you cant come to this conclusion yourself, as when you open up to show the cells, maybe it would be relevant to show the cells (yousee) = model number!!
sony cells are in the green colour samsung are blue i thiks they use sony vtc cells
I would like the 40v tirer inflator, so I dont need to carry multiple batteries. Aswell as the oscillator.
80v mower would be awesome. Are they sticking with single battery 40v tools or do you think they will release some 80v ones too like the 18v/36v range?
U would need 3 of these to power a lawn mower effectively
@@d.k.1394 Rubbish, Most tool companies run mowers on 36v just fine.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL rubbish
@@d.k.1394 I'm guessing you believe the earths flat too, seeing as you are denying the existence of battery lawnmowers.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yeh the erf be flat
I cannot buy 40v batteries where I live. So I am trying to build myself. I have 2 concerns:
1- What should be the amperage level of the charging board? 30A, 40a?
2- Where is the wattage control mechanism of the device? I mean the card which controls how many current the motor can ask for. If it is in the battery then I shouldn't build a battery. If in the device itself, then it's alright. I think it is in the device because every device has its own requirements and limitations.
Does anyone know answers to any of these questions?
Are they internally balanced cells? Or only through charger
I see a new 40volt xgt chainsaw coming out shortly and blowers and all that not seen them yet
Rumour has it there are more than 50 new tools being added to this platform in 2021 so stay tuned and we will showcase as they get closer to release.
How many recharge cycles do these batteries hold up, before you'd have to buy a replacement?
At least 300-400, which for non professional works should be at least 6-7 years. My 18v battery is 2 years old with around 50-60 cycles, no capacity loss at all.
Hey Tim. Do the tools perform the same with either 40v battery? Id love to see twin 40v stationary tools like 10' mitre saw and table saw. Makita go with ac adapter for large tools which would be great for dust extraction.
Great question there is a minuscule difference, more noticeable where more torque is required. Not noticeable driving in a 50mm chipboard screw but when driving in 200mm coach screws into sleeper the 4Ah arrives about a third of a second faster. It's only noticeable with a camera or stopwatch but it is different. There's probably a debate to be had about whether you want to carry the extra weight all day too, but the 4Ah will get you a better runtime.
If they dropped a 40v choppy I'd want that.
I allready want the skill saw sds and impact. That impact is godly. Mf ceiling weapon.
I've seen an XGT drop saw is available in Japan and it looks very nice, they are adding something like 50 more tools to this platform in 2021 so watch this space.
I need a replacement for my DPO600 Polisher
Got the tools...
But bit dubble minded...
The drill and screwgun are too clumsy big on the 4ah batteries
Great vid
How many amperages and percents does the flow of One 40v XGT battery charge and discharge. Does it discharge 30% equivalent to 19 AH ( amperage hour ) and it charge 10% AH equivalent to how many amperage hour or could it charge and discharge more ?. I look forward to know its charge and discharge limit. I hope you could feedback soon if you are free. I just refer. Because base on flow of charge and discharge I can calculate charge and discharge time. Could you help me. Thank you on the same. Have nice day and enjoy
Why exactly are these batteries 40V? These have a similar architecture, 10s1p instead of the older 5s2p, and somehow they are not called 37V? I guess it's fairly arbitrary to use nominal voltage in the first place...
You know, larger number is always better in marketing and sales. And the 18 V platform seems to lack DRM systems which allowed 90% of all Chinese knock offs to come with "Makita 18V batteries". The new 40V system seems to have this fixed by having DRM integrated ("digital communication between batter and tool") and we all need to buy new tools and batteries. In contrast the old 230V electric tools my grandfather used like table saw, hand saw, drill, grinder are all still fine and work with the same electricity after 60 years.
@@slartibartfass5729 Love your work around the Norwegian coast.
Yeeeeeew
Between Makita, Milwaukee M18 and M12 and Dewalt I've got like 50 batteries lol. I'm staying on the current platforms until they're all dead and won't charge.
Makita will never shutdown LXT platform... LXT is strong enough, this is only for heavy heavy duty...
Careful mate. You were shooting hot sparks on your black skinny jeans.
haha. That was a Makita rep. He wrote his shirt off when filming that too.
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Makita 40 volt batteries are expensive because they are expensive because other battery protection technology uses their machines. Makita batteries have a decryption system to unlock Makita appliances that work. It's Makita's marketing plan to sell batteries. I can tell you that I'm not okay with Makita 40 Volt batteries.👎👎👎