@@Adp32306 Baus has been suppressing his power for too long with his strategy. Now they have pushed too far and the true killable Peanutbutter will be unleashed.
If Zeus' departure from the team had been smooth, most fans would be sad but supportive of his new journey. But he and his agency lied to the team and fans on the way out, pretending he was going to re-sign, and Hanwha lied to Joe Marsh about their signing process, and this is evidence that people are suspicious of tampering. We're not upset that he left the team, we're upset that he treated the team and the fans like an asshole and left.
Canna didn't even play well at all in his time in T1. T1 would've been a finalist at least in 2021 if not for him being a liability and being hard carried
I think people already knew that. T1 fans were mad cause they got fucked over last minute which wasn’t cool. Zeus leaving is a surprise but nothing crazy. He always been the hardest to resign.
i mean im pretty sure most ppl are over it already. Its just HLE ripping open the scab basically. And like oreoyo mentioned, most ppl werent mad he left but how he left so abruptly and almost screwed T1 over
If that's the case then it's fine honestly, from what i and a lot of people got it was that it was his agent. But the fact Zeus didn't say shit to T1 is fucked up though.
not even that dont want to stay with T1 but it's about Hle pulling cheap tricks . Blud just want easy money , T1 was already going to match the offer but since Hle give Zeus a deadline ,blud cant risk too much time on thinking what to do . Hle also hides the deadline to zeus from t1 so t1 thought they can raise the salary slowly instead of immediately matching hle offer , which t1 probably did not even know how much hle was offering zeus for . imagine thinking zeus not wanting to stay with the best team in the world . Blud just want money , that's all.
At the end of the day if Zeus wanted to stay at T1 he couldve easily stayed. His agents are taking the heat for him. I dont think they had as much power over Zeus that people think they had. They just dont want to believe Zeus wanted to leave on his own free will.
I really like Doran and am glad he’s so excited about this move. Hope he’s able to prove himself to everyone. I’ll miss zofgk a lot, the whole situation with all the lying sucks tho so time to move on
Even if they lie, it's still not illegal to do that you child. HLE only need a good toplaner and this team would be perfect. Even if HLE contacted them before deadline, it's still Zeus decision if he wants to leave or not. So stop crying for a thing that already happened.
@@vanya0816 It's not illegal at all. Clearly this would never happen if Zeus would have had 0 interest in leaving. But IF what Joe Marsh said in his AMA is true: I think it's dealing in bad faith, which is fine because it's not illegal. But the orgs will have to deal with this amongst each other. And I think it's short-sighted to deal in bad faith with someone who your business dealings are so closely connected with.
@@vanya0816 It's not illegal of course, but whatever deals HLE might have with T1 in the future are not gonna go smooth sailing anymore. Their relationship, business nature or whatnot, is likely cooked as long as Joe Marsh is still here. But I think fans have moved on already. It's just a jerk move from HLE, proving their words aren't to be taken seriously.
@@wirelessbrain12eg T1 already planning for multiple HomeGround (LCK home games in proper arena/stadium) next year they may not want to do it with HLE now - but I suppose HLE doesn’t need that extra revenue from ticket sales
2:00 Surely Nemesis isn't the reason why they win most their games. Not saying that they would be terrible team, but they certainly don't win the NNO Cup and against T1.
And plan B, C? Don't be ridiculous. Kiin already signed with Gen.G. so was excluded from the plan and Doran was the best plan for the rest but he just sleeping and He was agonizing between KT and LPL Is this the attitude to take for a player with plan B?
@@lolcryler1 Didn't like t1 and yet he stayed with them for his entire career? In a better position yet he joined a team that has historically never left worlds quarters, with a track record that would be outright embarrassing for his former team. Go off buddy you got him!
He looks ecstatic to have left. It is his decision all along. He is obviously targeting the LCK domestic titles, and he may believe, a golden road in another team is much more possible. Given the years he spent trying with T1. Also, in the competitive world he definitely wants to shine more, that will be difficult in the roster as ZOFGK. It is a job too after all, money is always good, always a plus at the end of the day. Everyone should remember that it is better to support people who wanted to be in the places they decided to go to. Support wholeheartedly as a fan and just bring good karma all around. Joe Marsh emphasized this- it already happened (Joe reached out to HLE and asked about the deadline and they denied it to him, this was disclosed in the AMA article, the first long one) it is done and should go cherish the one who wanted to be in the team, join the organization and build a legacy at T1. Old players are returning to a different role, people stay in the org for a long time, even Rekkles praised the org and cannot think of a single negative thing during his stay at T1. Joe was also conscious of all the pressure that Doran has been getting and will be getting. While most would be nitpicking over the domestic runs- as the CEO, he said right off the bat of the David interview (the 2nd time Joe was asked to talk about the transfer), he addressed that, T1 is aiming for Worlds, peaking at the last quarter of the year. Domestic is good but Worlds is the goal. He does not want quick results, he wants lasting results. That is his vision as a CEO of an esports org that thinks about the entire team even after pro play is done and another phase of his family will shift to another path. This just shows how T1 operates with dignity and the future in mind, not only for the players, not only for T1 or the LCK region, but what the landscape of Esports that they are pioneering to not only do well in but be the standard. T1 Fighting!🫶🏻🏆💐👑👏🏻 🐿️🐯🐱🐻🐶
@ I think the LCK only has one split for the entire year in their format for 2025, and no championship points to tide them over like the previous format (this is what I understood so far in their primer). However, some might argue that there is now actually 4 internationals in 2025, since the inauguration of the EWC this year, so in 2025 we have: new international 1st Q, MSI, EWC, Worlds.
@@franckielouann4651 yeah but this one big year split is divided among three smaller splits coz u still need to somehow qualify to first stand, msi & worlds in terms of ewc in saudi arabia i think most of ppl count them as a fun event and nothing really serious
@ I think it will be the top 2 teams based on the games standing at that period, just like what happened in the EWC that determined which teams to be sent
I think in the team have 3 very talkative personality Caedrel, Veilja, and Crownie so they usually floor with opening and ideal after draft so he feel like getting left behind but the reality that he need speak up more. Anyway his play style also distanced him from the rest of the team, they usually need to play along him than him play for the rest of the team.
Always knew HLE is a snake - just look at how they always build their teams. Typical corpo snake, they even have a viper on their roster. Zeus inbound for LTA 2026.
Nah, orgs basically take a huge cut when it comes to skins. I doubt that the skin profits will make the difference for Zeus. Unless it sells like a lux skin
@aysitalownatlanch1052 that depend how much sales the skin revenue for skins is around 6-8 millions for split team player and probably when they release the numbers of last year probably gona go over 10 millions due popularity team and roster definitely player get more than 1 mill in the skin the revenue of skins is reported by teams
@@Mich8DB yes, then riot gets their cut, the team gets their massive cut, then the agent, and then taxes and then zeus gets his cut. The money he gets when he signed was guaranteed unlike the skin sales which is up to the player base basically.
People about to make T1 go full aggro on LR if they keep this up. Ola papa faker gonna have to sit Nemesis down with Uncle Keria taking Rekkles fishing
The thing that makes me angry at HLE now is, when all the drama was there they said "there's nothing to say" and now that everyone has started to move on HLE said in an official interview regarding this matter, it's funny to show HLE lying to T1 about the deadline 😂😂 I mean where were you at that time, Zeus even received hatred at that time but you just kept quiet when your players were treated like that. Even T1 and Faker protect Zeus better than you (HLE) and the agents themselves. Even if it was Zeus' own wish to leave, they still protected him until the last minute 😌 oh yes, the funny thing in that interview was, HLE compared its facilities with T1. I mean maybe your facilities are good but I don't think T1 is that bad 😅
I think it was the Agency that said HLE didn't put deadline no? And HLE didn't want to comment on it. Anyways if this fucks up T1 and Zeus this season it's one of the worst deals I've ever seen. Tbh, why do some players earn so much? Like Faker, he can use money as firewood at home but he doesn't spend a dime almost. They play League, have some basic stuff but why do they care and have so much money then? With Fakers money I would imagine him flying fking gold plated private jet over the years but nothing. He was given ton of cars but I guess he doesn't drive 3 AMG's to work.
The main reason was LPL; they played a money game to import all top tier LCK players like deft,pawn,marin. So average wages in LCK also went up, since core players would just be like, "hey, they offered me 6~10x more in LPL - im leaving if you dont change these digits"
@@mlekozmaslem8647 :) oh, sry didnt read the last bit; Faker's childhood wasnt abundant, so he still has a habit of not wasting money on fancy, luxurious stuff. Instead he continuously donates huge amounts to UNICEF, scholarships, wildlife preservation..etc
@@solodive7886 T1 did not get backstabbed lol. HLE gave Zeus an offer and gave him a tight time limit to sign it. Apparently Joe Marsh was told HLE said they did not give a time limit. This all could've been avoided if T1 didn't try to be cheap and attempt to just match offers. T1 gave lowball initial offers and just said we'll match allowing the palyers to negotiate with other teams.
@@wirelessbrain12 Yep, exactly this. What I even don't understand is they have four players in FA, and Zeus is the last priority? Like, Zeus should be the first re-signed before anybody else tbh. Give him the bag. The guy was Finals MVP in '23 and whenever he's on his game, T1 looks impossible to deal with.
@@chanjbo_ its not about him being the last to resigned, its the agency and him that want to wait until FA to check the market. Meanwhile the others already fine with T1 offers
If ANYBODY carried T1 either 2023 or 2024 it was Gumayusi respectively. Zeus is fantastic and he was for sure a huge part of the teams success but Gumayusi is that teams most consistent superstar player. 2023 Worlds was Oner’s year with Zeus having a stellar finals performance and 2024 was Keria/Fakers where Zeus was mainly playing low resource top laners.
We don't need to talk about the Zeus and Doran situation anymore. The messi of league is gonna stomp them both anyways.
not gonna happen with the homeguard nerfs, o7
LMAO
But then again, having Homeguards on recall now and Tp being nerfed does buff split pushing.
The messi of league will make it work.
@@Adp32306 o7 messi.
@@Adp32306 Baus has been suppressing his power for too long with his strategy. Now they have pushed too far and the true killable Peanutbutter will be unleashed.
0:52 THE CRUNCH OMG
pro muk bang xdd
If Zeus' departure from the team had been smooth, most fans would be sad but supportive of his new journey. But he and his agency lied to the team and fans on the way out, pretending he was going to re-sign, and Hanwha lied to Joe Marsh about their signing process, and this is evidence that people are suspicious of tampering. We're not upset that he left the team, we're upset that he treated the team and the fans like an asshole and left.
Fun Fact: If you take all the capital letter from Joe Marsh Tweet it will spell HLE
"tHe Liars worst Enemy is someone with a good memory"
Wait so are they the liar or the liar's worst enemy...
@@notdesmondesmondprobably implying that T1 have a good memory about HLEs lies.
alsmost as deep as billie eilish song titles, insane 🚬
14/96 is diabolical
It's official, now Zeus following his predecesor path. T1 Curse here we goo
Are you talking about Canna, Khan, Duke, Untara, Huni or MaRin?
@@Niick3015 He is referring to Canna probably
@@Niick3015 I think Marin, Duke, and Canna specifically. Their performance dropped so hard after leaving T1.
Canna didn't even play well at all in his time in T1. T1 would've been a finalist at least in 2021 if not for him being a liability and being hard carried
@@lerolero7417 it's Canna who left T1 with a bad reputation and now Zeus is like him
I think people just need to accept the fact that Zeus didn't want to stay in T1 anymore. Oh well.
I think people already knew that. T1 fans were mad cause they got fucked over last minute which wasn’t cool. Zeus leaving is a surprise but nothing crazy. He always been the hardest to resign.
i mean im pretty sure most ppl are over it already. Its just HLE ripping open the scab basically. And like oreoyo mentioned, most ppl werent mad he left but how he left so abruptly and almost screwed T1 over
The snek 🐍💲💸💰💵
If that's the case then it's fine honestly, from what i and a lot of people got it was that it was his agent. But the fact Zeus didn't say shit to T1 is fucked up though.
not even that dont want to stay with T1 but it's about Hle pulling cheap tricks . Blud just want easy money , T1 was already going to match the offer but since Hle give Zeus a deadline ,blud cant risk too much time on thinking what to do . Hle also hides the deadline to zeus from t1 so t1 thought they can raise the salary slowly instead of immediately matching hle offer , which t1 probably did not even know how much hle was offering zeus for . imagine thinking zeus not wanting to stay with the best team in the world . Blud just want money , that's all.
Zeus wanted to leave T1, and knew HLE was giving more money, so i do wish the best of luck to zeus in HLE but now is Dorans Time!!!
Wish him luck after intentionally fucking over the organization and friends who built his career? He can fail in the bed he's made.
At the end of the day if Zeus wanted to stay at T1 he couldve easily stayed. His agents are taking the heat for him. I dont think they had as much power over Zeus that people think they had. They just dont want to believe Zeus wanted to leave on his own free will.
t1 top curse continues not suprise.
I really like Doran and am glad he’s so excited about this move. Hope he’s able to prove himself to everyone. I’ll miss zofgk a lot, the whole situation with all the lying sucks tho so time to move on
It just proves HLE contacted Zeus before the legal deadline.
If they did not why would HLE lie about the contract in the first place
Even if they lie, it's still not illegal to do that you child. HLE only need a good toplaner and this team would be perfect. Even if HLE contacted them before deadline, it's still Zeus decision if he wants to leave or not. So stop crying for a thing that already happened.
@@vanya0816 It's not illegal at all. Clearly this would never happen if Zeus would have had 0 interest in leaving.
But IF what Joe Marsh said in his AMA is true:
I think it's dealing in bad faith, which is fine because it's not illegal. But the orgs will have to deal with this amongst each other. And I think it's short-sighted to deal in bad faith with someone who your business dealings are so closely connected with.
@@vanya0816 It's not illegal of course, but whatever deals HLE might have with T1 in the future are not gonna go smooth sailing anymore. Their relationship, business nature or whatnot, is likely cooked as long as Joe Marsh is still here. But I think fans have moved on already. It's just a jerk move from HLE, proving their words aren't to be taken seriously.
@@chetrasok3336 what deals would HLE ever have with T1? This isn't like other sports with frequent trades.
@@wirelessbrain12eg T1 already planning for multiple HomeGround (LCK home games in proper arena/stadium) next year they may not want to do it with HLE now - but I suppose HLE doesn’t need that extra revenue from ticket sales
2:00 Surely Nemesis isn't the reason why they win most their games. Not saying that they would be terrible team, but they certainly don't win the NNO Cup and against T1.
HLE told T1 and Joe
‘We didn't have a deadline’, but they changed words in the interview. This is disgusting they are liar
And plan B, C? Don't be ridiculous. Kiin already signed with Gen.G. so was excluded from the plan and Doran was the best plan for the rest but he just sleeping and He was agonizing between KT and LPL Is this the attitude to take for a player with plan B?
@@김윤재-k7o is business, and it is like that, sharks vs sharks
STOP CRYING 🐋 ZEUS DIDNT LIKE UR TEAM AND HE IS NOW IN BETTER POSITIONS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lolcryler1 Didn't like t1 and yet he stayed with them for his entire career? In a better position yet he joined a team that has historically never left worlds quarters, with a track record that would be outright embarrassing for his former team. Go off buddy you got him!
@@lolcryler1 its not about zeus lol. More like business ethic & relationship between org. Bluffing is acceptable but lying is not lol.
He looks ecstatic to have left. It is his decision all along. He is obviously targeting the LCK domestic titles, and he may believe, a golden road in another team is much more possible. Given the years he spent trying with T1.
Also, in the competitive world he definitely wants to shine more, that will be difficult in the roster as ZOFGK. It is a job too after all, money is always good, always a plus at the end of the day.
Everyone should remember that it is better to support people who wanted to be in the places they decided to go to. Support wholeheartedly as a fan and just bring good karma all around.
Joe Marsh emphasized this- it already happened (Joe reached out to HLE and asked about the deadline and they denied it to him, this was disclosed in the AMA article, the first long one) it is done and should go cherish the one who wanted to be in the team, join the organization and build a legacy at T1. Old players are returning to a different role, people stay in the org for a long time, even Rekkles praised the org and cannot think of a single negative thing during his stay at T1.
Joe was also conscious of all the pressure that Doran has been getting and will be getting. While most would be nitpicking over the domestic runs- as the CEO, he said right off the bat of the David interview (the 2nd time Joe was asked to talk about the transfer), he addressed that, T1 is aiming for Worlds, peaking at the last quarter of the year. Domestic is good but Worlds is the goal. He does not want quick results, he wants lasting results. That is his vision as a CEO of an esports org that thinks about the entire team even after pro play is done and another phase of his family will shift to another path.
This just shows how T1 operates with dignity and the future in mind, not only for the players, not only for T1 or the LCK region, but what the landscape of Esports that they are pioneering to not only do well in but be the standard.
T1 Fighting!🫶🏻🏆💐👑👏🏻
🐿️🐯🐱🐻🐶
golden road is kinda cooked now when u have to win 3 splits and 3 internationals no?
@ I think the LCK only has one split for the entire year in their format for 2025, and no championship points to tide them over like the previous format (this is what I understood so far in their primer).
However, some might argue that there is now actually 4 internationals in 2025, since the inauguration of the EWC this year, so in 2025 we have: new international 1st Q, MSI, EWC, Worlds.
@@franckielouann4651 yeah but this one big year split is divided among three smaller splits coz u still need to somehow qualify to first stand, msi & worlds
in terms of ewc in saudi arabia i think most of ppl count them as a fun event and nothing really serious
@ I think it will be the top 2 teams based on the games standing at that period, just like what happened in the EWC that determined which teams to be sent
I mean I'm pretty disappointed in Zeus for not communicating about leaving T1 as far as we've understood it so T1 got fucked.
when are we fixing the saliva sounds?
why fix them🥵
@@dqmj3penglishtips985I want them personally in my mouth
Baus' little thing about Rekkles was wholesome lol
I think in the team have 3 very talkative personality Caedrel, Veilja, and Crownie so they usually floor with opening and ideal after draft so he feel like getting left behind but the reality that he need speak up more.
Anyway his play style also distanced him from the rest of the team, they usually need to play along him than him play for the rest of the team.
Always knew HLE is a snake - just look at how they always build their teams. Typical corpo snake, they even have a viper on their roster. Zeus inbound for LTA 2026.
is all around zeus agent cause the money difference is useless when in summer you gonna sell a skin that gonna give you more than the 200-400k diff
Nah, orgs basically take a huge cut when it comes to skins. I doubt that the skin profits will make the difference for Zeus. Unless it sells like a lux skin
@aysitalownatlanch1052 that depend how much sales the skin revenue for skins is around 6-8 millions for split team player and probably when they release the numbers of last year probably gona go over 10 millions due popularity team and roster definitely player get more than 1 mill in the skin the revenue of skins is reported by teams
@@Mich8DB yes, then riot gets their cut, the team gets their massive cut, then the agent, and then taxes and then zeus gets his cut.
The money he gets when he signed was guaranteed unlike the skin sales which is up to the player base basically.
Hanhwa Lier Ego-sports
People about to make T1 go full aggro on LR if they keep this up. Ola papa faker gonna have to sit Nemesis down with Uncle Keria taking Rekkles fishing
The thing that makes me angry at HLE now is, when all the drama was there they said "there's nothing to say" and now that everyone has started to move on HLE said in an official interview regarding this matter, it's funny to show HLE lying to T1 about the deadline 😂😂
I mean where were you at that time, Zeus even received hatred at that time but you just kept quiet when your players were treated like that. Even T1 and Faker protect Zeus better than you (HLE) and the agents themselves. Even if it was Zeus' own wish to leave, they still protected him until the last minute 😌
oh yes, the funny thing in that interview was, HLE compared its facilities with T1. I mean maybe your facilities are good but I don't think T1 is that bad 😅
what does he mean by completing ror2, every char on eclipse 8 ?
I can't listen to this because of the saliva sounds. Come on man.
I think it was the Agency that said HLE didn't put deadline no? And HLE didn't want to comment on it. Anyways if this fucks up T1 and Zeus this season it's one of the worst deals I've ever seen. Tbh, why do some players earn so much? Like Faker, he can use money as firewood at home but he doesn't spend a dime almost. They play League, have some basic stuff but why do they care and have so much money then? With Fakers money I would imagine him flying fking gold plated private jet over the years but nothing. He was given ton of cars but I guess he doesn't drive 3 AMG's to work.
The main reason was LPL; they played a money game to import all top tier LCK players like deft,pawn,marin. So average wages in LCK also went up, since core players would just be like, "hey, they offered me 6~10x more in LPL - im leaving if you dont change these digits"
@@TLN98829 Oh, okay thanks for the explanation.
@@mlekozmaslem8647 :) oh, sry didnt read the last bit; Faker's childhood wasnt abundant, so he still has a habit of not wasting money on fancy, luxurious stuff.
Instead he continuously donates huge amounts to UNICEF, scholarships, wildlife preservation..etc
3:00 kled incident...
Cant watch it with all these eating and saliva sounds
love how he talk about hles baseball team while but he never said a fkn word about the LS situation
what situation of all of them?
what LS situation?
LS what? who?
There's another LS situation?
Thanks for reacting to the TenZ reaction! I figured you might enjoy it.
Zues doing his retirement scheme and leaving. He ain't ever seeing another world final.
HLE could easily make a run at Worlds stop being a weird T1 fanboy
@@DocYAYAYA
Yeah. Just to get shit on by another LPL team.
Hopefully not.
HLE have 1 of the most stacked roster coming into next year, id be suprised if they dont make semis at least
@Seopy It depends if they still have Peanut lol.
@@DocYAYAYAWhy do you still deny T1?
can someone explain in 1 sentence
T1 got backstabbed
@@solodive7886 T1 did not get backstabbed lol. HLE gave Zeus an offer and gave him a tight time limit to sign it. Apparently Joe Marsh was told HLE said they did not give a time limit. This all could've been avoided if T1 didn't try to be cheap and attempt to just match offers. T1 gave lowball initial offers and just said we'll match allowing the palyers to negotiate with other teams.
@@wirelessbrain12 Yep, exactly this. What I even don't understand is they have four players in FA, and Zeus is the last priority? Like, Zeus should be the first re-signed before anybody else tbh. Give him the bag. The guy was Finals MVP in '23 and whenever he's on his game, T1 looks impossible to deal with.
@@chanjbo_ its not about him being the last to resigned, its the agency and him that want to wait until FA to check the market. Meanwhile the others already fine with T1 offers
@@wirelessbrain12 I mean apparently Zeus wanted to leave? So isn't that kinda on Zeus for not communicating to t1?
who is tenz
Historical valorant player
Zeus wanted the bag the end
He actually wanted more than just a bag and thats what people fails to realize lmao
People care too much.
Well, the people caring too much make the entertainment a viable way of living
Fire doran sign the death goat baus for t1😂
I made it xdd
yay
I burned all my zues merch. Please stop giving him any attention.
:>
Traitor
I'm just excited to see Zeus in another team, and i already liked HLE lineup a lot. Want peanut to win stuff
WHO TF CARES
just move on. its their job.
Just let zeus do his thing
only 2 comments and one is 'First' mann this ratt fell of after hating on Faker
Hating? HE JUST SAID THE TRUTH BTW
I don't blame Zeus or HLE. I blame the agents
First
This comment changed my life, it’s up there with “who here in 2027?” Truly inspirational
W Move by HLE, only weirdos wont accept the truth because ZEUS HATED HIS TIME WITH THOSE FANS NOW HE IS COMING FOR THE GOLDENS ROAD!
THANK YOU HLE FOR SAVING THE KID
Ummm sure pal
least ill league viewer
bros schizo
Kid saw the thumbnail and saw it was his chance with the keyboard lol
well.. ZEUS carried T1 to the finals so good luck without him
No one carried anyone bud. They all did their roles. The only noticeable exception is Faker on G4 and G5 on Finals.
If ANYBODY carried T1 either 2023 or 2024 it was Gumayusi respectively. Zeus is fantastic and he was for sure a huge part of the teams success but Gumayusi is that teams most consistent superstar player. 2023 Worlds was Oner’s year with Zeus having a stellar finals performance and 2024 was Keria/Fakers where Zeus was mainly playing low resource top laners.
Two worlds in a row where he got bailed out by Faker, lets see him do it now.
Zeus only carried in finals of last year.
Otherwise he played role as well as the others.
HE WILL WIN THE GOLDEN ROAD WITH HLE 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡