It's been a while since I edited a video, used this opportunity to break off some rust. Also new AE86 video coming soon, soon as in not next week.. probably late January or early February.. I hope.
Plus he’s doing single weights instead of dual. When I balance wheels that only need single weights, most of the time it come out to less than a gram or even no weights.
You were correct on mounting it upside down, that's called a reverse mount wheel. Also for best results have somebody hold the tire halfway up the wheel while you blast it, it shows fit the air to fill the gap better and makes the space it has to cover less
He shows the drop center of the wheel in the video, its a top mount not reverse. He flipped it to blast because trying to blast top mount on that specific wheel as he said is all open space until the last inch, can be very hard to seat a stretch on a drop center that big
Tip. Use a direct air line .ie, straight from your compressor or main line when trying to inflate the tyre. The Auto34 air hose as to much restriction, that's what the clicking sound is.. Great video !!
I'm good with maybe a lil bit of stretch, like a tire that's an inch too short, it had a nice rounded edge like a racing go kart wheel, but it's not crazy.
Aslong as they use the same roads as us. It's not each to their own. .. it is stupid. Pointless and dangourous!!! Also negative camber is a good thing. All mordern cars have it. BUT and it's a big but. It's only a slight bit almost unnoticeable. When you have high amounts mixed with stretched tyres. It is stupid and dangourous
Ive seen people get killed from idiots with these stretched tyres and as a qualified tyre fitter it should be illegal in all countries they are dangerous... Most of time fitted to a car with extreme camber meaning your driving on the sidewalls
@@petergriffin4629 your stretching the tire to a point it will cause cracking in the tire, do some highway driving especially with camber, and your tire life can be next to nothing, plus it reduces your contact patch just get the right size wheel and tire so you get performance and a mean track stance
Back when it was the fad to put stretched 175/70-14's on 8-10" knock-off wire spoke wheels (usually on an 80's cutlass for some reason), we would simply inflate tubes in the tires ahead of time to help form a 'stretched memory' into the tire's sidewalls before mounting them. Think of it like this: tires at the shop were normally stacked by size, applying a squeezing (compression) pressure to them, and when you un-stack them they don't immediately return (relax) to normal width between the beads. By inflating tubes inside the tires ahead of time (days or weeks), we could reverse that squeeze and if we worked quickly, could get the tire mounted without a cheetah because they would momentarily hold that 'stretched memory' shape. We still required a signed liability (hold harmless) waiver, and warranty waiver.
yup would trust that S)*(T on speed or any hard turn or maneuver. If anything I always try to go a bit more tire than rim to ensure my contact patch is as optimal and secure as possible.
It might not make a whole lot of sense, but I work as a tire mechanic and I’ve had people asking me to stretch tires out and it’s been a pain. What I’ve found is that do the same as you are having the larger part of the drop center seated first, than putting it vertical on the balancing machine so that the rim doesn’t move at all and there’s no downward force of the weight of the tire to blast. That way once the bead is atleast some what seated on the back there’s a smaller pocket on the bottom side of the tire to blast. And the top of the tire is somewhat centred between both the beads on the rim. Not easy to explain in text or this extreme of a stretch
Keep the air hose connected to the blaster after you build some pressure. Make sure the small input valve is opening and blast the tire right as the overpressure relief is about to go. This will keep forcing air for longer after you initially blast it. Be careful tho, the blaster will kick like a mule.
all depends on the amount of stretch and the air pressure. a 205 or a 215 on a 8" wide rim is a normal and safe stretch, but what shown in this video isnt considered safe. but safe enough that you can drive normal with high air pressure. people who know a bit about what they are doing dont have issues with debeading and stuff. stretching a tire on a rim so wide it doesnt even meet the edge of the rim is considered dumb :p showcars often do that.
That's an impressive stretch! #MajorProps Here in Germany I do some tire stretch. I have special tools to cover the gap between the tire and the wheel. One cheep solution on less stretch can be a bicycle tube at the lower lip. The tire moves up and the compressed air can be shot directly in the gap. // Nice edit - like it a lot! 😎👍
@@n0eLoL I bought some a long time ago, so I don't remember exactly. But the diameter should be the same size. These parts are dirt cheap, so I bought a few in different widths. I recommend to buy the widest possible. For Dirt-Bikes or Downhill bikes für example. Worked pretty well. Cheers, TOBi 👋😉👍
You did everything by the book. Would never use burning gas like some do.. Yes fill the tire allmost to max air pressure. Then lower it after a few min.. 185 is kinda extreme on a 13 inch.. but look good. Just a tip, be carefull stretching premium tires. Some of them are not strong enough to be stretch to much Supose to be some of the best to stretch is Falken tires
We had to mount some 35x10.50R20’s on a set of 20x15 wheels at the shop I used to work at. It was ludicrous. thankfully i convinced the kid of the error of his ways and got him to aim for real performance instead of I don’t even know what he was thinking. That truck was all Jankey when it first came to us...
I once beaded a karting tyre on a rim that had a mild stretch with deodorant and lighter, had a brick on the tyre to hold it in place, well you can guess the brick flew up pretty high :D
No weights to balance? Wow. Like you, when I get a tire come up that says it needs no weights to balance, I turn the wheel 90 degrees on the balancer and test it again. Well done!
History of tire stretching goes wayyyy back to racing in I want to say the 50s or earlier when tire tech wasnt there and racing teams needed different wheel specs and to change the tire profile. Its pretty interesting and worth a look.
Those are reverse mount wheels, a ratchet strap would help you a lot, I've changed from low profile tires to stretching big super swampers on 15 inch wide wheels
In the Netherlands we have apk for cars, the yearly checkup. And they pass streched tires as long as the wheel doesn't stick out of the mud guard more than 30mm. So it is allowed in the Netherlands, with European insurance I can drive it through all of Europe without a problem.
Something to consider with tore stretching is most if not close to all vehicles running them are show vehicles. Meaning they don't go on 100+ mile drives so the risk of a blow out is considerably lower then someone with a regular tire driving on a 500+ mile trip a few times a year
Nice balance machine. I like your technique, although I some times find very little lube lets one bead stick a little better to the rim during bead seating. Thanks.
Use a p3 or also know as a quick air. You can also tube the tire and seat one bead then pull the tube out the drop center side. Pop a 413 stem in it and push the tire to seat the other side.
Thanx for the video. I'm actually doing this exact same thing. On the exact same VMS rim, only mines a 13x9. I'm also using the exact same tire, and size... lol But just to add something on stretches like this. It's best to have 2 guys, and 2 Cheetahs. Hit it from both sides, and it'll catch almost every time.
Caleb Nation i had 195/45zr15’s an they felt way better beating the fuck ou of it, i tried 195/50-55, 205/45-55 and 185’s aaand 215s. The 195s felt better in terms of quicker turn in, overall response and how planted it was on the road. (And the fitment was 10x better altough i wouldve preffered 185’s but since i could pull 195’s and stay as low i stuck to that
Mine use 185/55 to 16*9.0 on rear. 16*8.0 on the front. It’s kinda hard to mount new tires. So I always move the front to rear wheels. And put new tires on the front. It’s already pre-stretched so it’s easier to mount on the rear wheel. Front camber was neutral. But rear was -1.5’. I purposely let the rear wear the thread and finish off the tire.
I noticed. most of your attempts you were shooting air at the tire. when it went up you were shooting air downwards at the tire when it inflated on the rim 🚘🚘🚘
what happened in your successful attempt was the bead on the outside clung to the rim. i do it first time by seating the bead in the outside or inside rim with the standard bead breaker on my tyre machine then lift the tyre with hand until i close the gap and fill the tyre the normal way from the valve without using huge burst of air.
You can't get away with driving on tyres like that in the uk anymore. They have changed our mot rules "thats a yearly mandatory inspection" If you get caught buy vosa or the police, its 3 points on your driving license and a fine per tyre. Plus you'll have to tow your car away as it has unsafe tyres.
Which law is this specifically? As far as I know the only law dictating tyres in the u.k is the one that states the tread on the tyre must not extend past the body of the car. I'm not defending a stretch like the one in this video by any means, I'm just interested in the law you mentioned.
I had a kid come to my shop wanting stretched tires. I laughed and told he should get the correct size tire for his rim. He didn’t like my advice. We live in a small town of just 500 people and all of our roads are dirt
Seems like you lost some custom and he lost some time lol, probably just went somewhere else. I see your point though, I don't understand this trend either
@@lordvader3538 Sounds like he avoided a lot of bullshit, I would have done the same thing at my shop. It's not worth the risk involved, if you dont do it right the beads can unseat and boom now you're fucked, especially if someone gets hurt.
Anthony Lamanna unless you’re stretching a ridiculous amount there’s no added risk. I’ve had 255’s on 10.5s for years now. Slight stretch, handles good. No extra wear. There’s nothing wrong with stretched tires.
gotta love how mounting/balancing stations only have room for weights and a pry bar. The width scale, hammer, solvent, rags, abrasives, die grinders, ect. have nowhere to go. I've been wheeling a cart over there
Sometimes it helps to have a rachet strap around the tire to force the tire bead in contact with the inside of the rim. When it starts taking air by itself release the strap.
Why would anyone stretch a tire? In Europe driving with those It's a penalty like hell and there+s no way to legalize that... USA is different story...
@@bstiphout1 I live in EUROPEAN UNION which I mentioned and I've been tuning and upgrading cars in last 15 years. I know the law an regulations in EU and what you can drive on highways and roads. There are some differences from county to country but not so big that you can do this stuff and drive around without the plates taken down and huge penalty ;)
@@alixxworkshop846 exactly, e.g. in the Netherlands there is no TUV for motorcycles. So you need lights and brakes and not make to much noise. For in Germany you can not change your brake levers without getting a TÜV.
Recently fitted a 185/60 on a 13x10. Then swapped to a 195/50 Thought it'd be funny to try a 165/60 and it inflated, but couldn't get fully stretched to both beads. So a 165/65 may be the absolute limit for a simple fire on stretch on the 13x10
I've used ratchet straps to squish the tire(spelled correctly). Then use a air gun nozzle to blast air into the valve stem. Takes a couple tries . A cheetah would have made it easier.
Lol! I remember doing this in the early to mid 1990’s. Best I ever did was a 195 on a 10” reverse offset rim. It could take hours to seat them. In those days the trend was spoked McLeans or Dayton’s with true spinner knock offs. Customers would leave with tires hitting fenders when they turned and not even care. We would have them all sign a release. Your balancing with the tire tag on. Come on mannnnn!
you usually run over max psi to keep the sidewalls from debeading also im assuming if u stretch this much its cambered it also helps get more contact patch as the center is bulged out and allows the tire to wear better ran 10deg rear 6 front ran 65 psi on a 3 inch stress and got 20k out of a genral economy tire
I'm surprised your tire machine doesn't have air jet to help seat the bead. I've found a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire can help deform the tire enough and push the bead out a little on stubborn ones. Of course take it off immediately after seating.
It's been a while since I edited a video, used this opportunity to break off some rust.
Also new AE86 video coming soon, soon as in not next week.. probably late January or early February.. I hope.
Holy shit, my prayers have been answered! Hallelujah!
oh yes
Enfin 😃
It was my Christmas wish , now it's true
I'm just happy that you are back! I find my self watching your old videos over and over... It's been a REAL while... #longhairdontcare 🤘🏼😊
The most impressive thing was getting a perfect tire Ballance without weights.
`must be a high quality / expensive wheel.
pull the stickers off and it will need 5 gram :)
Vølga i balance tires all the time, it’s a rare occasion but it happens
Static balance its not a dynamic balance
Plus he’s doing single weights instead of dual. When I balance wheels that only need single weights, most of the time it come out to less than a gram or even no weights.
Are we all missing the fact that tire was perfectly balanced
Shane Osborne as all things should be
It's not hard at all to balance a tire.
@@heyjaypay4521 he means he didnt have to put counter weights on it at all, it was perfectly balanced after the seating
thanos approved.
@Příslušník VB yeah that bugged me, always took those off before balancing when I did it.
This is the least ducheist video I have even seen on stretching tires. I'm glad I watched. Thumbs up for you.
We have been stretching tires for years in the low rider community 5.20’s on 13x7 wire wheels and 155-80-13 tires in the same style wheel. 👍
You have the charisma and demeanor in your videos to take this channel a lot further, I subbed right away
I appreciate that sir, thank you.
You were correct on mounting it upside down, that's called a reverse mount wheel. Also for best results have somebody hold the tire halfway up the wheel while you blast it, it shows fit the air to fill the gap better and makes the space it has to cover less
He shows the drop center of the wheel in the video, its a top mount not reverse. He flipped it to blast because trying to blast top mount on that specific wheel as he said is all open space until the last inch, can be very hard to seat a stretch on a drop center that big
Tip.
Use a direct air line .ie, straight from your compressor or main line when trying to inflate the tyre. The Auto34 air hose as to much restriction, that's what the clicking sound is.. Great video !!
I wonder when installing tires inside out will catch on in japan.
In Sweden they put them backwards, mostly because ther are arabic trying to do something in the shops.
I’m positive they do. I even do that at a dealership in the US
@@greatestever3814 wait... what?
It was by accident that the newbie didn't know how to inflate tires and he did it upside down with too much air....bamp! there it is...
You have nice calm warm voice, was watching tyre reviews and this just popped on a autoplay. You got a new subscriber.
Good video on a stupid trend. Nice job!
I did this 40 year ago because couldn't afford wide tyres when I made my own wide wheels for my mini
Dee Sabird 😂
People have done this since the 1970's. It's not a "trend", it's a lifestyle.
It can look cool on some things
@@savagesock3598 yeah, like on some kids Power Wheels.
I think this is a stupid trend. To each his own i guess.. Good vid.
I'm good with maybe a lil bit of stretch, like a tire that's an inch too short, it had a nice rounded edge like a racing go kart wheel, but it's not crazy.
I think it looks bad ass
Until your tire blows up but I mean guys drift with that type of shit so I cant be that bad
This trend is a dumb as negative camber.
Aslong as they use the same roads as us. It's not each to their own. .. it is stupid. Pointless and dangourous!!!
Also negative camber is a good thing. All mordern cars have it. BUT and it's a big but. It's only a slight bit almost unnoticeable. When you have high amounts mixed with stretched tyres. It is stupid and dangourous
This makes stretched tires so much cooler... crazy!!!
The most ridiculous stretch i ever did was 205/45 on a 17x10. That already was pretty dumb :'D
And i wanna try a 235 35 on a 12j...
Tjulfar du hier?
omg that hair, ur turning into a real drifter
Man. That's a big rim for that small tire. My hat is off to you. For mounting that.
i run a very slight stretch on my tires, i have a 8.5' wheel and 215 tires, looks perfect for my taste
I agree, a little stretch is tasteful
Yeah, that combo is fine. I tried a 205 40 17 on a 8.5 bmw wheel, but it didn't look right. Ended up with a 225 45 17.
Crazy amount of effort man, props to you👍🏻
I wish our tire balancing machine was that clean all around. It always looks like a 5 year old have a field day with it.
Ive seen people get killed from idiots with these stretched tyres and as a qualified tyre fitter it should be illegal in all countries they are dangerous... Most of time fitted to a car with extreme camber meaning your driving on the sidewalls
How exactly did they kill people?
Peter Griffin tire explodes causes you to lose control of car=accident
I'd like to see when, where, and how someone was killed by this.
@@petergriffin4629 I think the camber is now at fault though not the stretch
@@petergriffin4629 your stretching the tire to a point it will cause cracking in the tire, do some highway driving especially with camber, and your tire life can be next to nothing, plus it reduces your contact patch just get the right size wheel and tire so you get performance and a mean track stance
Back when it was the fad to put stretched 175/70-14's on 8-10" knock-off wire spoke wheels (usually on an 80's cutlass for some reason), we would simply inflate tubes in the tires ahead of time to help form a 'stretched memory' into the tire's sidewalls before mounting them.
Think of it like this: tires at the shop were normally stacked by size, applying a squeezing (compression) pressure to them, and when you un-stack them they don't immediately return (relax) to normal width between the beads. By inflating tubes inside the tires ahead of time (days or weeks), we could reverse that squeeze and if we worked quickly, could get the tire mounted without a cheetah because they would momentarily hold that 'stretched memory' shape.
We still required a signed liability (hold harmless) waiver, and warranty waiver.
As if it was balanced! That’s actually amazing
yes it happens every so often, and still we take it off and try again, cos we don't believe it. just like he did,lol
perfectly balanced as all things should be
Tesanic I see what u did there
yup would trust that S)*(T on speed or any hard turn or maneuver. If anything I always try to go a bit more tire than rim to ensure my contact patch is as optimal and secure as possible.
Excellent video. Most detailed and correct explanation I've ever seen.
It might not make a whole lot of sense, but I work as a tire mechanic and I’ve had people asking me to stretch tires out and it’s been a pain. What I’ve found is that do the same as you are having the larger part of the drop center seated first, than putting it vertical on the balancing machine so that the rim doesn’t move at all and there’s no downward force of the weight of the tire to blast. That way once the bead is atleast some what seated on the back there’s a smaller pocket on the bottom side of the tire to blast. And the top of the tire is somewhat centred between both the beads on the rim. Not easy to explain in text or this extreme of a stretch
Starting fluid works wonders also, especially when bead seating a Semi tire in 10deg weather
Put the cheetah blast next to the valve and walah
He's back! Now if only Noriyaro would make another 86 video...
If only.... :D
Yeah it's been a long time since he last uploaded one... :)
lol you know he just uploaded a 86 only drift/race video right?
Way to spoil the sarcasm...
>sarcasm over text on the internet.
Keep the air hose connected to the blaster after you build some pressure. Make sure the small input valve is opening and blast the tire right as the overpressure relief is about to go. This will keep forcing air for longer after you initially blast it. Be careful tho, the blaster will kick like a mule.
Tire stretching began with lowriders back in the 70's. 5.20 tires on a 7" or 8" wide rim.
Dude needs to be a voice on biographies 👍🏻☝️☝️
Getting a perfect balance always makes me second guess LOL
Not only it looks silly isn't that really like not safe?
not safe at all specially if there is weight in the car
@@finno123456 millions of people do it especially on huge trucks and I've never heard of a death by stretched tire.
Well, you never heard it, guess it never happened then right? what kind of fucking logic is that??
all depends on the amount of stretch and the air pressure. a 205 or a 215 on a 8" wide rim is a normal and safe stretch, but what shown in this video isnt considered safe. but safe enough that you can drive normal with high air pressure. people who know a bit about what they are doing dont have issues with debeading and stuff. stretching a tire on a rim so wide it doesnt even meet the edge of the rim is considered dumb :p showcars often do that.
Ricky spanish happens all the time, same thing with cheap wheel spacers, obviously it’s not safe for YOU to do anything car related
The angle of the cheetah and lube is key when stretching tires. I worked in a tire shop for years and absolutely hated having to stretch tires.
That's an impressive stretch! #MajorProps Here in Germany I do some tire stretch. I have special tools to cover the gap between the tire and the wheel. One cheep solution on less stretch can be a bicycle tube at the lower lip. The tire moves up and the compressed air can be shot directly in the gap. // Nice edit - like it a lot! 😎👍
A few people had mentioned this one to me. I have yet to try it. What would be the size of bicycle tire to use? Same size as wheel?
@@n0eLoL I bought some a long time ago, so I don't remember exactly. But the diameter should be the same size. These parts are dirt cheap, so I bought a few in different widths. I recommend to buy the widest possible. For Dirt-Bikes or Downhill bikes für example. Worked pretty well. Cheers, TOBi 👋😉👍
You did everything by the book.
Would never use burning gas like some do..
Yes fill the tire allmost to max air pressure. Then lower it after a few min..
185 is kinda extreme on a 13 inch.. but look good. Just a tip, be carefull stretching premium tires. Some of them are not strong enough to be stretch to much
Supose to be some of the best to stretch is Falken tires
This is my job before as a tire assembler for armoured vehicles ... I really miss this job
We had to mount some 35x10.50R20’s on a set of 20x15 wheels at the shop I used to work at. It was ludicrous. thankfully i convinced the kid of the error of his ways and got him to aim for real performance instead of I don’t even know what he was thinking. That truck was all Jankey when it first came to us...
I once beaded a karting tyre on a rim that had a mild stretch with deodorant and lighter, had a brick on the tyre to hold it in place, well you can guess the brick flew up pretty high :D
👍 for the mechanic!
Great video dude! Sound like you're on the USS Missouri air craft carrier lunch the F-18 off.
AND you pulled triple zed on the balancer...! LMAO.! Icing on the cake.!
No weights to balance? Wow. Like you, when I get a tire come up that says it needs no weights to balance, I turn the wheel 90 degrees on the balancer and test it again. Well done!
We were doing tire stretch in the late 80's and early 90's on mini trucks in So Cal
hate the trend, but a great video, gave you a thumbs up for it being well put together.
Pretty badass. im having trouble mounting, yes just getting a 235/60 on a 10" wide wheel. Let me mention it's a double bead lock wheel as well.
History of tire stretching goes wayyyy back to racing in I want to say the 50s or earlier when tire tech wasnt there and racing teams needed different wheel specs and to change the tire profile. Its pretty interesting and worth a look.
I work at a tire shop and I’ve had a 35x12.50 tire one a 20x9 wheel balance perfectly as well
He's back!
Those are reverse mount wheels, a ratchet strap would help you a lot, I've changed from low profile tires to stretching big super swampers on 15 inch wide wheels
I need to try that ratchet strap technique as well
In the Netherlands we have apk for cars, the yearly checkup. And they pass streched tires as long as the wheel doesn't stick out of the mud guard more than 30mm. So it is allowed in the Netherlands, with European insurance I can drive it through all of Europe without a problem.
I've never seen that airgun. That is so awesome
The metal scratchy sounds pierced my soul
In Australia we had stretch tyers way way back in 1980's for the v8 supercars in Australia here cheers from cameron in Australia here
Something to consider with tore stretching is most if not close to all vehicles running them are show vehicles. Meaning they don't go on 100+ mile drives so the risk of a blow out is considerably lower then someone with a regular tire driving on a 500+ mile trip a few times a year
Nice balance machine. I like your technique, although I some times find very little lube lets one bead stick a little better to the rim during bead seating.
Thanks.
Man this shop look freaking great
Use a p3 or also know as a quick air. You can also tube the tire and seat one bead then pull the tube out the drop center side. Pop a 413 stem in it and push the tire to seat the other side.
I work at a tire shop and this was hella sick to watch
Thanx for the video.
I'm actually doing this exact same thing. On the exact same VMS rim, only mines a 13x9.
I'm also using the exact same tire, and size... lol
But just to add something on stretches like this.
It's best to have 2 guys, and 2 Cheetahs.
Hit it from both sides, and it'll catch almost every time.
If only I had people to help me out ☹
@@n0eLoL
I guess that would be kind of a bonus.. lol
What did you end up running these on?
@@mattt1670 the green SR20 Starlet I made a video about. I mounted and stretched the tires for him
A tiny bit of stretch can vastly improve turn in response. I have 205/50/15s on 15x8s which has amazing turn in
Caleb Nation i had 195/45zr15’s an they felt way better beating the fuck ou of it, i tried 195/50-55, 205/45-55 and 185’s aaand 215s. The 195s felt better in terms of quicker turn in, overall response and how planted it was on the road. (And the fitment was 10x better altough i wouldve preffered 185’s but since i could pull 195’s and stay as low i stuck to that
disgusting combination but you do good work sir
Mine use 185/55 to 16*9.0 on rear. 16*8.0 on the front. It’s kinda hard to mount new tires. So I always move the front to rear wheels. And put new tires on the front. It’s already pre-stretched so it’s easier to mount on the rear wheel. Front camber was neutral. But rear was -1.5’. I purposely let the rear wear the thread and finish off the tire.
I noticed. most of your attempts you were shooting air at the tire. when it went up you were shooting air downwards at the tire when it inflated on the rim 🚘🚘🚘
what happened in your successful attempt was the bead on the outside clung to the rim. i do it first time by seating the bead in the outside or inside rim with the standard bead breaker on my tyre machine then lift the tyre with hand until i close the gap and fill the tyre the normal way from the valve without using huge burst of air.
You can't get away with driving on tyres like that in the uk anymore. They have changed our mot rules "thats a yearly mandatory inspection"
If you get caught buy vosa or the police, its 3 points on your driving license and a fine per tyre. Plus you'll have to tow your car away as it has unsafe tyres.
right decision, for the safety of other road users
Which law is this specifically? As far as I know the only law dictating tyres in the u.k is the one that states the tread on the tyre must not extend past the body of the car. I'm not defending a stretch like the one in this video by any means, I'm just interested in the law you mentioned.
Time to move to the US.
I like that clip of starting fluid that flashed a for a sec. That's how we do it.
I had a kid come to my shop wanting stretched tires. I laughed and told he should get the correct size tire for his rim. He didn’t like my advice. We live in a small town of just 500 people and all of our roads are dirt
Seems like you lost some custom and he lost some time lol, probably just went somewhere else. I see your point though, I don't understand this trend either
Sounds like he gave another shop his money instead
@@lordvader3538 Sounds like he avoided a lot of bullshit, I would have done the same thing at my shop. It's not worth the risk involved, if you dont do it right the beads can unseat and boom now you're fucked, especially if someone gets hurt.
Idk what tire shop would want to spend a hour or two trying to put a set of tires on rims.
Anthony Lamanna unless you’re stretching a ridiculous amount there’s no added risk. I’ve had 255’s on 10.5s for years now. Slight stretch, handles good. No extra wear. There’s nothing wrong with stretched tires.
Gotta hand it to ya. Ive been doing tires for 17 years, and i would have lost my patience a long time ago! Good work tho.
gotta love how mounting/balancing stations only have room for weights and a pry bar. The width scale, hammer, solvent, rags, abrasives, die grinders, ect. have nowhere to go. I've been wheeling a cart over there
Sometimes it helps to have a rachet strap around the tire to force the tire bead in contact with the inside of the rim. When it starts taking air by itself release the strap.
Why would anyone stretch a tire? In Europe driving with those It's a penalty like hell and there+s no way to legalize that... USA is different story...
Some for clearance purposes. Most for just aesthetic.
I wish they would do it in the us
There are a lot of different countries in Europe and a lot of different rules.
@@bstiphout1 I live in EUROPEAN UNION which I mentioned and I've been tuning and upgrading cars in last 15 years. I know the law an regulations in EU and what you can drive on highways and roads. There are some differences from county to country but not so big that you can do this stuff and drive around without the plates taken down and huge penalty ;)
@@alixxworkshop846 exactly, e.g. in the Netherlands there is no TUV for motorcycles. So you need lights and brakes and not make to much noise. For in Germany you can not change your brake levers without getting a TÜV.
I like the atmosphere, subscribed.
Looks like the successful one you held the air blaster more upright 👍
I missed ur uploads so much
thank you for waiting so patiently Justin :)
Recently fitted a 185/60 on a 13x10.
Then swapped to a 195/50
Thought it'd be funny to try a 165/60 and it inflated, but couldn't get fully stretched to both beads. So a 165/65 may be the absolute limit for a simple fire on stretch on the 13x10
Stretch tires look amazing..
pretty unsafe considering the sidewall is meant to support the tire
Started in Germany to run wide tires, at the time tire couldn't exceed the fender so they found that stretching it works.
Thechristopherryan do you mean run wider rim?
We did tire strech tires on lowriders for decades "1970's" put a 155/75R13 on a 13X7 rim or a 175/75R14 on a 14X7 inch rim.
Great videos bro not all these adds and bs good stuff man
I've used ratchet straps to squish the tire(spelled correctly). Then use a air gun nozzle to blast air into the valve stem. Takes a couple tries . A cheetah would have made it easier.
To get a ridiculous stretch, it was the lube. It's always the lube...lol
Awsome video man. I work for vianor tire so I relate with you lol
Lighter fluid works well
Lol! I remember doing this in the early to mid 1990’s. Best I ever did was a 195 on a 10” reverse offset rim. It could take hours to seat them. In those days the trend was spoked McLeans or Dayton’s with true spinner knock offs. Customers would leave with tires hitting fenders when they turned and not even care. We would have them all sign a release. Your balancing with the tire tag on. Come on mannnnn!
Finally
PERFECT TIRE BALANCE WITH NO WEIGHTS
you usually run over max psi to keep the sidewalls from debeading also im assuming if u stretch this much its cambered it also helps get more contact patch as the center is bulged out and allows the tire to wear better ran 10deg rear 6 front ran 65 psi on a 3 inch stress and got 20k out of a genral economy tire
Dude had to check 3 times to make sure it was perfectly balanced
Having a 2nd person makes seating the bead a lot easier. get em to hold the tire in the middle of the rim.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
I'm surprised your tire machine doesn't have air jet to help seat the bead. I've found a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire can help deform the tire enough and push the bead out a little on stubborn ones. Of course take it off immediately after seating.
It has its own built in blaster, I tried using it and failed. I have yet to try the ratchet strap method, I'll probably try that next time.
A rachet strap around mid tire works well also. Federal makes good tires so the no need for weights is believable.
Looks sick man, nice wheel choice
This was a fun video. Thanks for making and uploading it.
i feel like even just turning at 30+mph would roll the bead off
So pro tip : Apply double or triple the amount of lube you were thinking originally. Nice wheels btw.
you should try the new bicycle inner tube trick, as far as i know its the best way to do really big stretches
Yeah starting fluid is way easier and works on bigger tires like AG tires and stiff tractor trailer tires when the cheetah doesn't have enough volume
One think we doo with these is but a inner tube inside and strecth se sides and let it be like that for a day or two makes it a lot easier