I guess I've entered full grumpy old man phase because I remember when WCML South came out for TS Classic it went all the way to Birmingham, literally double the distance of this route. Granted the graphics in TSW are 10 times better but I can't help feeling we're paying more for less. At this rate the full WCML should be drivable by the time we get to TSW 75, so i hope my grandchildren enjoy driving it.
TSW budgets and costs to develop routes is totally different to making them on TS Classic. There is a heck of a lot more work involved to make a TSW route compared to TSC. Sure they went to brum on TSC but i think we got really lucky with that.. Plus lets be honest it didnt come fault free either. It had a hell of a lot wrong with it. Imagine if that was the case here for TSW if they did that..
I do like not seeing the track suddenly appearing in front of me. Like Gromit was laying it as we trundle along. So that is a vast improvement. Though let's be honest DTG should patch all the existing versions. to fix this. Will get the core update. Maybe get this Route around Easter/Summer sale, next year. See what else gets released in the meantime.
DTG should build the WCML & ECML in sections as separate DLC's. I don't think that anyone is expecting to run from Euston to Manchester in one trip. To maintain the same scenery spec you would need a very high end spec PC and consoles would never manage.
@@Robert.S459 sorry I meant by this giving us a route deom Birmingham to Manchester or stoke to Manchester it’s very diverse route with lots of different scenery and landscapes. Also have the northern stoke to Manchester route which is a great countryside route which then blends into the city.
Given it's the WCMLs, and DTG would have known people were going to go over it with a fine tooth comb, especially since it ends at Milton Keynes, they made some (silly) shortcuts again, even admitting it before release. I really think we need a change of management at DTG as it's clear to see that "sloppy is acceptable".
Lets just hope mistakes have been noticed and will be acted on for future routes. The route itself is not an issue in my opinion, its visually a nice drive. A few areas on the old bakerloo need a bit of foliage applying but it does not detract from the general gameplay. The issue lies in the timetable mainly but said that, ive not had a boring experience..
@@TrainSim_TVHave to say, I completely disagree. There is a lot wrong with this route in terms of the scenery & I’m quite surprised you’re saying it’s ok in your opinion. It’s every bit as bad as Fife Circle, if not worse.
I've been poking around the PC Editor for the past month or so, the laying of catenary is actually an automatic process as far as I understand it. So they should be able to fix it relatively quickly instead of having to relay miles of catenary by hand.
i just bought the class 390 separately and it isn’t appearing for me when I go on the west coast main line, anyone know the fix for this or why it’s not showing ?
Sounds of the 390 are not the best, but that’s my opinion - I’m sure the community will bring out a sound mod or something for it in the near distant future. The model looks fantastic though, give credit where credit is due. Overall looks decent, looking forward to picking it up.
There annoyingly has been a sound mod made available the morning after i recorded the video! I will be covering this on a new video. The mod is available here for PC users: www.trainsimcommunity.com/mods/c3-train-sim-world/c20-sounds/i5223-class-390-sound-mod
Nah the route is fine itself in general. They could of taken it further but it would of taken a heck of a lot of time to develop more and the budget to make the route would be a lot more. You have to stop somewhere.. The pendo has 52 miles still plenty of drive time
This is a great route, although as we know should of been made a bit longer than this. The thing that bugs me is the timetables, so much missing that needs fixing to bring this much more alive but it is a good route.
The 390 sounds like the acela train in some parts if if spelt it right I wa s looking forward to this after I watched the stream and red ppls comments I bought it part of me is like get a refund
I do like the sounds on the 350 but its the bugs and issues that let it down i do like the route but think that Dovetail Need to Stop the yearly games Changed my comment as i was not happy with it
I love the sound when it’s accelerating
Yeah they did a decent job, theres also a sound mod available now too for the pendo.
I guess I've entered full grumpy old man phase because I remember when WCML South came out for TS Classic it went all the way to Birmingham, literally double the distance of this route. Granted the graphics in TSW are 10 times better but I can't help feeling we're paying more for less. At this rate the full WCML should be drivable by the time we get to TSW 75, so i hope my grandchildren enjoy driving it.
TSW budgets and costs to develop routes is totally different to making them on TS Classic. There is a heck of a lot more work involved to make a TSW route compared to TSC. Sure they went to brum on TSC but i think we got really lucky with that.. Plus lets be honest it didnt come fault free either. It had a hell of a lot wrong with it. Imagine if that was the case here for TSW if they did that..
The Euston TPWS OSS triggers at 15mph. In real life the drivers come down the platform under 10mph to avoid triggering it.
I do like not seeing the track suddenly appearing in front of me. Like Gromit was laying it as we trundle along. So that is a vast improvement. Though let's be honest DTG should patch all the existing versions. to fix this. Will get the core update. Maybe get this Route around Easter/Summer sale, next year. See what else gets released in the meantime.
Wished they’d of done Birmingham to Manchester Piccadilly. Or at least and extension to Manchester
wayy to much time that would take and wouldnt hold up very well
@@TrainSimEnjoyer yes I can see what you mean! But would be nice to have something different!
DTG should build the WCML & ECML in sections as separate DLC's. I don't think that anyone is expecting to run from Euston to Manchester in one trip. To maintain the same scenery spec you would need a very high end spec PC and consoles would never manage.
@@Robert.S459 sorry I meant by this giving us a route deom Birmingham to Manchester or stoke to Manchester it’s very diverse route with lots of different scenery and landscapes. Also have the northern stoke to Manchester route which is a great countryside route which then blends into the city.
Given it's the WCMLs, and DTG would have known people were going to go over it with a fine tooth comb, especially since it ends at Milton Keynes, they made some (silly) shortcuts again, even admitting it before release. I really think we need a change of management at DTG as it's clear to see that "sloppy is acceptable".
Lets just hope mistakes have been noticed and will be acted on for future routes. The route itself is not an issue in my opinion, its visually a nice drive. A few areas on the old bakerloo need a bit of foliage applying but it does not detract from the general gameplay. The issue lies in the timetable mainly but said that, ive not had a boring experience..
@@TrainSim_TVagreed the timetable needs work. What are your opinions about the night lighting Tom?
@@TrainSim_TVthe timetable is the massive killer and the formations of the 350 are horrifically wrong
@@TrainSim_TVHave to say, I completely disagree. There is a lot wrong with this route in terms of the scenery & I’m quite surprised you’re saying it’s ok in your opinion. It’s every bit as bad as Fife Circle, if not worse.
No, we don't and they are not sloppy.
Why build a long route when the punters will purchase a short route for the same price as a long route. Long live Train Sim Classic!
I've been poking around the PC Editor for the past month or so, the laying of catenary is actually an automatic process as far as I understand it. So they should be able to fix it relatively quickly instead of having to relay miles of catenary by hand.
i just bought the class 390 separately and it isn’t appearing for me when I go on the west coast main line, anyone know the fix for this or why it’s not showing ?
Sounds of the 390 are not the best, but that’s my opinion - I’m sure the community will bring out a sound mod or something for it in the near distant future. The model looks fantastic though, give credit where credit is due. Overall looks decent, looking forward to picking it up.
There annoyingly has been a sound mod made available the morning after i recorded the video! I will be covering this on a new video. The mod is available here for PC users: www.trainsimcommunity.com/mods/c3-train-sim-world/c20-sounds/i5223-class-390-sound-mod
Yeh the mod was out….its so much better too!
@@AmazeTase The sound mod is good but i found out it distorts as times which kinds of spoils it, if he can fix that then yes it's a good mod.
The reason for the mid sounds is cuz dtg was not able to get sounds of a real 390 running at speed so it's a bunch of other sounds mashed together
@@kevingraham3161 oh I’ve not noticed that tbh
Hello Tom.
helloooooo
Nice looks really good. First!
i just got the deluxe edition on ps5 is it true i can access all my routes on the 17th ?
Deluxe and Special edition i belive were able to access from the 12th.
@@TrainSim_TVonly on PC. Consoles from the 17th!
@@AmazeTase thanks mate !
@@alfieday2768you’re welcome mate! :)
Well they can play early access but will have to wait until tomorrow to play their alr owned routes
Is the game out to download now
Its available now yes
I feel like they dropped the ball with the WCML
No, they didn't.
@@LNER985 I feel like they did, the Pendolino isn’t even worth driving such a short distance
Nah the route is fine itself in general. They could of taken it further but it would of taken a heck of a lot of time to develop more and the budget to make the route would be a lot more. You have to stop somewhere.. The pendo has 52 miles still plenty of drive time
This is a great route, although as we know should of been made a bit longer than this. The thing that bugs me is the timetables, so much missing that needs fixing to bring this much more alive but it is a good route.
The 390 sounds like the acela train in some parts if if spelt it right I wa s looking forward to this after I watched the stream and red ppls comments I bought it part of me is like get a refund
I do like the sounds on the 350 but its the bugs and issues that let it down i do like the route but think that Dovetail Need to Stop the yearly games
Changed my comment as i was not happy with it
The big one is the timetable for me at the moment, sure there is a few flaws on the route in places. But it isn't a boring experience at least :)