Я так понял на каком-то то ходу одна прога решила вздернуться от этой игры. Но вторая не дала этого сделать, просто потому что на самом деле уже давно сошла сума и вобще не понимает, что тут делает....
Играл давно на ICC партию толи 340 ходов, толи 360 был отбор Дос Эрманаса помню после 21 хода на доске получилась битая ничья. Потом при анализе заметил, что ровно на каждом 50-м ходу менялось количество пешек. Стало ясно, что я играл против проги, тоже и в этой партии стороны очень долго ходили вокруг и около, не удивлюсь, что было сделано под 500 ходов (не считал).
الدقيقة 25 والثانية 29 كان لدى الابيض كش ملك بالقلعة... ولا مفر للاسود سوى الاكل ب الوزير... و يضيع الوزير الاسود ب الوزير الابيض وينتهي الدور بفوز الابيض... تفويت لعبة ممتازة
Why does white not pin the Queen with Rook D5 @18:19 ? Someone help me understand? Seems like you can play it safely. You have the knight and Queen supporting it. What am I not seeing?
If what human grandmasters discovered were perfect chess theory,some of them would be winning against such engines as stockfish,but their too much positional understanding betrays them and we can always go back to the greatest mathematician, Emmanuel Lasker,the official second world champion,who said chess is 99% calculation, theory is in fact derived from well calculated variations.So, Alphazero calculates deeper than Stockfish,we cannot trust these so called Alphazero vs stockfish on you tube.
25:25 if the rook goes to c8, the queen will have to eat the rook since the king has nowhere to retreat, and then the queen eats the queen and white gets a huge advantage
Their ELO's are actually in the mid to low 3800's I think not 4000. To have a 4000 rating you would have to beat engines almost as good and not lose to them for 100s of games at very difficult statistics. Were talking massive strength gain to go 3850 to 4000 which is really an incredible amount, since where Stockfish Dragon Lc0 and some russian one and this newer alpha zero are at, took incredible statistics to get there. You would have to beat engines that are really incredible and stomp them that are 3700 almost as good engines to get to 4000. Stockfish might of hit 3900 but 4000 is an exaggeration due to it being like a good advertisement. I don't know the math here but it might be a scientific notation number amount of added strength to add +150 to something that is radically high already. The best GM's are 2800. This is classical chess strength not online blitz where some Gms can hold 3200. You are talking really really big power hard to understand here. Not sure how strong the new alpha zero is but was not top 4 before. Dragon and leela was much stronger but this new one might be better, hard to tell yet. Well i dont know what im talking about dont listen to me really lol. And the video might be boring but look at the endgame you will never see anyone play an endgame like that where they are probing for flaws for a long long time. If you think thats an easy endgame just chessable a rook queen ending and you will be shocked how many tactics there are. And this has 2 rooks a knight and a queen so hard to not mess up if your a human vs it.
Computers can be such clowns 🤡! It was an obvious draw for a long time and then black still didn’t want to end it when white walked off into the woods. I think I made myself dumber by watching this video to the end
white was loosing... all can do is stalemate.... Black can't do no more... one diferent move and loses the queen. Or maybe you are seeing someting no one else is. Would you care to explain?
With accurate play, for any K+P v K ending where the defending king is in front of the pawn, the attacker can only win if his king is one square in front of the pawn and with the opposition, or 2 or more squares in front of the pawn with or without the opposition. Except that if it is a rook pawn it is a draw unless the pawn can outrun the defending king.
А зачем тогда вообше нужны шахматисты? Пусть движки рубятся между собой Человеку в шахматном мире места уже не остается. Будут читерить все кому не лень
0:40 why doesn't white defend its hanging pawn at e4, black has no disadvantage that I can see capturing it with its knight ... 🤔 [edit] plus black brings its queen into the game
Nothing immortal and it's not even memorable. Sure there are moments of brilliance in human-like sacrifices but after that is an elongated attempt to avoid triple position draw.
Did white just give up the last pawn after all that maneuvering? Then black still didn't take it after white stop defending it🤦🏾 Stupid AI that's for wasting my time
Absolutely, at 30:35 I knew it is gonna be a draw and was pointless to continue, even with one pawn advantage against black the white pawn won't get through since black King has overruned it's path! 😑😑
That's a thumbs down, I'm not a Chess genius but that ending sucked. The ending was played by Elos what 500? Lucky i fast forward to end and not loss much time to see.
It's not the immortal game, it's the never-ending one
the 5 best engines in a world go over 100 moves often. Watch CCC and you will see.
Betul,kasih mati server.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Every Thing is well done.😂😂😂😂😂
Soooo… immortal? 😅
The Immortal Game was a chess game played in 1851 by Adolf Anderssen and Lionel Kieseritzky. This game is only one big shit.
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Yaah true
Я так понял на каком-то то ходу одна прога решила вздернуться от этой игры. Но вторая не дала этого сделать, просто потому что на самом деле уже давно сошла сума и вобще не понимает, что тут делает....
Stockfish is trying to avoid stalemate in this pattern... it's surely the ever ending game..
it is a draw and they keep playing
Monumental waste of 40 minutes
If you watched the whole thing, and at normal speed, that's on you.
If you watched everything with all those repeated moves that's 100% on you
These two guys are right...but I feel your pain 😅😅😅
Trust me 2x speed does NOT make a difference 😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣@@JimBalter
I could never imagine that chess can be this boring
Blame silicon
You're the one who doesn't understand anything about chess
This game is far more exciting with Korsakov's 'flight of the bumblebee ' playing in background.
Actually it's quite fascinating at the end how they try to avoid a draw. Perhaps hoping the other will run out of time?
why do you waste our time with this video? channel blocked
Играл давно на ICC партию толи 340 ходов, толи 360 был отбор Дос Эрманаса помню после 21 хода на доске получилась битая ничья. Потом при анализе заметил, что ровно на каждом 50-м ходу менялось количество пешек. Стало ясно, что я играл против проги, тоже и в этой партии стороны очень долго ходили вокруг и около, не удивлюсь, что было сделано под 500 ходов (не считал).
I was actually looking forward to the adverts.
hehehehehe true
2 veces pudo hacer mate y 1 tenedor con caballo , y las desperdició
الدقيقة 25 والثانية 29 كان لدى الابيض كش ملك بالقلعة... ولا مفر للاسود سوى الاكل ب الوزير... و يضيع الوزير الاسود ب الوزير الابيض وينتهي الدور بفوز الابيض... تفويت لعبة ممتازة
Visir? Pensé que eran califas
35:14
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senti o batidão🔥
Maybe immortal stupidity game? There is a move to take the pawn towards the end but the black king did not take it.
Alphazero quería evitar el empate.
Aí está a diferença entre humanos e robôs. O tempo para os robôs não conta.
I think the akkuraty is somewhere around 50%😂.
39:37 почему чёрные не съели пешку? Это был самый лучший ход.
Why didn’t black take the pawn? This was the best move.
Скорее всего программа пыталась избежать ничью, надеясь на то, что у второй закончится время
I would like congratulate stockfish and alpha zero for wasting my time watching over them unending game... 😂😂😂
Согласно таймингу ход каждые 10 секунд было около 400 ходов.
The goal is to trick the king into leaving the corner to avoid a forced stalemate?
Why does white not pin the Queen with Rook D5 @18:19 ? Someone help me understand? Seems like you can play it safely. You have the knight and Queen supporting it. What am I not seeing?
Because of check by the other rook which would inevitably lead to loss of the pawn and knight.
Fast forward to 30:30
If what human grandmasters discovered were perfect chess theory,some of them would be winning against such engines as stockfish,but their too much positional understanding betrays them and we can always go back to the greatest mathematician, Emmanuel Lasker,the official second world champion,who said chess is 99% calculation, theory is in fact derived from well calculated variations.So, Alphazero calculates deeper than Stockfish,we cannot trust these so called Alphazero vs stockfish on you tube.
Merci .
Setting playback speed to 2 wasn't high enough.
Aumenten la velocidad a 2!
25:25 if the rook goes to c8, the queen will have to eat the rook since the king has nowhere to retreat, and then the queen eats the queen and white gets a huge advantage
Of course the k has somewhere to retreat: h7.
What is name of Music please
Their ELO's are actually in the mid to low 3800's I think not 4000. To have a 4000 rating you would have to beat engines almost as good and not lose to them for 100s of games at very difficult statistics. Were talking massive strength gain to go 3850 to 4000 which is really an incredible amount, since where Stockfish Dragon Lc0 and some russian one and this newer alpha zero are at, took incredible statistics to get there. You would have to beat engines that are really incredible and stomp them that are 3700 almost as good engines to get to 4000. Stockfish might of hit 3900 but 4000 is an exaggeration due to it being like a good advertisement. I don't know the math here but it might be a scientific notation number amount of added strength to add +150 to something that is radically high already. The best GM's are 2800. This is classical chess strength not online blitz where some Gms can hold 3200. You are talking really really big power hard to understand here. Not sure how strong the new alpha zero is but was not top 4 before. Dragon and leela was much stronger but this new one might be better, hard to tell yet. Well i dont know what im talking about dont listen to me really lol. And the video might be boring but look at the endgame you will never see anyone play an endgame like that where they are probing for flaws for a long long time. If you think thats an easy endgame just chessable a rook queen ending and you will be shocked how many tactics there are. And this has 2 rooks a knight and a queen so hard to not mess up if your a human vs it.
Nah, there is this so called 'performance Elo', humans can even have over 3000 elo playing on a single game
Did they really not a position repetition get?
I'm glad 😄 i speed dialed this game boring 💤😴😅
is white stockfish?
Presumably.
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At 39.40 why didn't the black king take the pawn? These machines are supposed to be smarter than the best grandmasters?
Well it would've led to a stalemate.Only two Kings on the board is a stalemate.
Походу stockfish флаг рубил
Why not pushed white pawn to get queen
Wtf!!!! I just wasted my time watching this match, sarap masohin itong dalawang computer na naglalaro!!!
Computers can be such clowns 🤡! It was an obvious draw for a long time and then black still didn’t want to end it when white walked off into the woods. I think I made myself dumber by watching this video to the end
Je pense qu'à 5'31" il vaut mieux que le pion blanc prenne le pion noir plutôt que d'avancer.
Evidently theses chess computers forgot the basics of chess. White made no moves to force black out of the corner until it gave up. Ridiculous!
No había como, es tablas.
white was loosing... all can do is stalemate.... Black can't do no more... one diferent move and loses the queen. Or maybe you are seeing someting no one else is. Would you care to explain?
39:39 (oui g tenu jusque là en x2 !) pourquoi le roi noir ne prend pas le dernier pion blanc !?? Qui a les blancs ?
Alguém avisa eles que nessa situação é empate...
Mas que canceira .!
Альфазеро с юмором, однако, как и штокфиш.
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Para empezar, no idnca quien es quien. Eso pone en tela de juicio si se enfrentaron estas dos IA
Stockfish es los blancos y alphazero los negros ambos intentaron evitar el empate pero aún así al final empataron.
Me quedé dormido no recuerdo en qué movimiento😊
18:17 почему белые ладьей на связку ферзя с королем не напали? ферзь с конём же лучше чем две ладьи, не?
Потому что чёрная ладья сразу шах ставит
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Because Rh7+, Rg7+, etc.
Con cambios de dama quedaba mejor negras
This is simply a draw. Draws never earn the titlle "immortal"!😛
mid roll ads are crap
😂😂😂😂
Çok komik geldi sebebini bilmiyorum ama.
Крайне интересная позиция, но пешкс не помогла
Why not h6
Stalemate!! In my opinon theres no such thing as a draw. Or maybe its the samething 🤷🏾♂️
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Semprol.
Что победил?
Автор видео!
Думал что реально шедевр , оказалось убитое время
Para mí las negras se jugaron muy mal
Speed X2
AI malfunction, don't waste your time watching this
King inanyo bandang huli na prank pa kami
When the two smart kids disagree:
They joked with us. Dont watch anymore
This is utterly silly
there was a horse taking quin situation position...by check..
Since when is a king and NP vs king a draw?
With accurate play, for any K+P v K ending where the defending king is in front of the pawn, the attacker can only win if his king is one square in front of the pawn and with the opposition, or 2 or more squares in front of the pawn with or without the opposition. Except that if it is a rook pawn it is a draw unless the pawn can outrun the defending king.
Take an endgame lesson, fish.
I'm blocking ChessTV
А зачем тогда вообше нужны шахматисты? Пусть движки рубятся между собой
Человеку в шахматном мире места уже не остается. Будут читерить все кому не лень
Школьники с первого класа играли?
39:35 - 39:41 4000 elo moment
from both sides
hahahahahaahahhahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAhAhAhAHAHAHAHA
Pure shit
0:40 why doesn't white defend its hanging pawn at e4, black has no disadvantage that I can see capturing it with its knight ... 🤔
[edit] plus black brings its queen into the game
You can't see it because you're a fish. This is a standard opening, played for hundreds of years. If Nxe4 then Re1 wins the pawn back.
wow never seen such a worse endgame
five years old vs 6 years oldhahahah scam.
Game macam apa ini!!?
I wonder these days,how does stockfish claim to be playing Alphazero which does not exist now?
wtf man?
VERY POOR GAME!! DO NOT LOSE YOUR TIME
Nothing immortal and it's not even memorable. Sure there are moments of brilliance in human-like sacrifices but after that is an elongated attempt to avoid triple position draw.
Did white just give up the last pawn after all that maneuvering? Then black still didn't take it after white stop defending it🤦🏾 Stupid AI that's for wasting my time
It's a draw no matter what, fish.
Draw
What a monotonous gsme
Че за хрень???
Irritating background music ruined so called immortal game.
Re8 at 24.48 was mate knucklehead!
WTF are you talking about?
This is not immortal, tbis is a player bullshit moves.
Wow - that's the most boring game I've ever seen - and you don't even bother to tell us the result . Not that it was ever in doubt.
Absolutely, at 30:35 I knew it is gonna be a draw and was pointless to continue, even with one pawn advantage against black the white pawn won't get through since black King has overruned it's path! 😑😑
27:18 if the white played the queen on e4 he would won the game
Nonsense, fish.
This game sucks.
no minuto 24:48 as negras capturariam o cavalo com dama g4
Você está bêbado? O caballo está em g4 como é que vai levar a dama de b7 até g4?
He means before Qc8-b7. Anyway he’s wrong not because he’s drunk but because the night is defended by the queen :)
What a waste of time
BS
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That's a thumbs down, I'm not a Chess genius but that ending sucked. The ending was played by Elos what 500? Lucky i fast forward to end and not loss much time to see.
It's a draw, fish. 1 trillion elo won't change that.
That was not so great
Very stupid game😂😂😂
waste of time, no creativity