What Do Shoretroopers Actually Do? | Star Wars
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Marines and Lifeguards might not have much in common, but Coastguards have a lot in common with both!
Ah yes. The missing link
That's what I was gonna say. Like we're overlooking a pretty big branch than handles aquatic ops and it's not baywatch.
On one end you have a bunch of crazy jarheads ready to bring the pain on the other you have a bunch of yellow bucket heads that can't hit shit
That’s what were saying
The USCGA is the most selective service academy as ranked by percent admitted. The coast guard is legit.
The planet has storms? Deploy the stormtroopers!
Not to be confused with the elite overcastwithachanceoflightshowerstroopers.
Do you think that you're funny?
@@onld6230I think that he's funny
@@onld6230he is pretty funny
@@onld6230"Well, I dont really know if its funny, uh.. I think its clever." -Peter Griffin.
The mental image of someone drifting off to sea and a shoretrooper swimming over to save them is kinda funny not gonna lie
Considering all that armor they are wearing
(after pulling them out) "Why are you all wet? Are you sweating? Are you part of it?"
@@herrdoctor2895 they probably have propellers on them or something
As if they would actually go out and save them lol
Or just a shoretrooper in the lifeguard chair sniping the people that are running
Shore trooper: *shoots child* I SAID NO RUNNING.
WHY ARE YOU RUNNING
💀💀
Shore trooper: Shoots at child and misses
6 years jail
Child runs
"You are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor. Take her away"
The red piece on their arm means that they are a sergeant, that’s the minimum rank to be a shore trooper, that’s why they command regular stormtroopers at times.
basically officers getting a cozy job.
Basically
But isnt it kind of ridiculous that Scariff's forces are almost entirely NCOs and above? Sounds ridiculous.
Is that true though? Because mud troopers also have that and they’re not all sergeants.
@@ic0nic707I think since the imperial army troopers (mud troopers) and stormtroopers are different (like marine and army) they have different ways to show rank, and also I would guess since the shore troopers are like coastguard, they somewhat share rankings like that since they work together.
I think it’s probably more likely that Shoretroopers *are* something akin to a marine corps, and that their presence as security for a resort could be explained by it being located near to a base housing these marines, and they patrol/provide security there out of convenience. Imagine US Marines patrolling parts of Hawaii. We didn’t get a good look at the rest of the region, but it gave me the vibe of a sort of archipelago, so I think this makes sense.
That would be the stormtrooper corps as a whole. The GE does have an imperial army branch.
Especially after the aldani situation. Deploying stormtroopers as police is the empire’s way of clamping down
In one of the books, Imperial Marines are mentioned. So in canon, they are a separate thing entirely. And they served on the battle of Jakku.
I was under the impression the Stormtroopers themselves were the Marines, or the closest thing
The guys on Neimos could either just be troops employed to crack down, or MP's operating in the region, the name shoretrooper is so bad btw, i refuse to accept that.
The Empire uses a bunch of habitat specialised troops like the Desert trooper, Snowtrooper and the Coastal defense trooper. They are basicly just Stormtrooper with special enviromental training and fulfill the same roles.
Modern combat infantey are specialized in many types of warfare. Artic, desert, jungle ect. Its redicoulus and has to be a logistical nightmare to the empire to have basically a 12 different units with specialized training that are useless outside of their enviroment.
@@jonathangodin4775 but then again, You have to remember that this is a Galaxy with a crapload Of mono-biome planets. So it would make sense to have hyper-specialized troops, and then keep the regular stormtroopers as sort Of a jack-Of-all trades type troops
@@jonathangodin4775 not really. There’s infinite amount of shore-contains worlds. So if you’re a shore trooper, you’ll jus the sent to another one of these, right?
@@jonathangodin4775 i will say in reality...youre no really correct. Certain units often specialize in certain roles largely based on where they garrison.
I.e. 10th mountain are cold weather/mountain warefare specialists based in northern ny, 25th infantry in hawaii are jungle warefare specialists etc.
They are trained to the same level as everyone else but have garrison specific training aswell that make that unit have a unique mission qualification.
Its not just enviromental too.
101st airborne are air assault trained
And 82nd are airborne trained etc.
@@jonathangodin4775 yeah its a movie 😂😂I waz thinking the same shit
I'm reminded more and more of the, 'stormtroopers are Star Wars Eevees and I won't be convinced otherwise' meme.
I have never heard of this but holy shit you BLEW my mind. 🤯
Where is our ghostrooper
@@cataclysm7256 those are the death troopers probably
@@Reverse-Isekai_Victim lol true, always thought they're dark type but now we got an actual "dark troopers"
@@Reverse-Isekai_Victim Well.. Ghost Troopers are basically Death Troopers, I don’t really know anything about them though.
If i remember correctly, the environmental specialists don't actually do normal security and actions in units of their own. They act more like the NCOs for specific environments that teach the normal storm troopers how to operate in those environments before they move on to another area. this way Storm Troopers are able to learn on the job.
You do get full formations of 'environmenttroopers' where required, but they're considered to outrank a regular stormtrooper of the same grade in their specialist environment in mixed units.
So what's your special environment?
Storm Weather.
So you're a?
Storm. Trooper.
Being in the military myself here’s my perspective
You have several branches of the Stormtrooper Corps - each branch has a specific specialization.
Now, the way we see Shoretroopers throughout the film leads me to believe that they are equivalent to the Marines, maybe a bit more specialized, what this means is, in beach environments the Shoretrooper Corps has greater training and experience so they’re allowed to advise the regular Stormtroopers on where and what to do.
The Marines would absolutely take charge of the US colonized a planet that was mostly covered with islands, as they are the best units for fighting in that environment.
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 this makes the most sense, thanks
The Brazilian army have a similar structure. Because they have a lot of environments in their country, they have something called “operational course”, that’s a specialization for each environment. The main ones are Selva (jungle), Caatinga (desert), Pantanal (Swamp) and Montanha (mountain). They are all army, but with different techniques and gear to operate in different areas.
thanks the force sharing
So…Star Wars is just Brazil. Noted
All Shoretroopers are officers. They're advance engineers that man fortifacations on coastal defenses. That means shores of all enviroments, not just tropical. Their role is explain in several Star Wars sourcebooks.
The reason for the inconsistent in media is becuase the writer's couldn't be bothered to use them for their proper purpose. They look cool, so they get screen time regardless of the scene.
Shoretroopers were very confident of their abilities.
"Hey man, you really think we can take those rebels on the beach?"
"Yes."
"Are you Shore?"
😭😭😭
Take my like and leave
😭😭😭
Turns to other shore trooper without laughing, turns to look at you, pulls out his firearm and shoots you, turns back to other shore trooper, nods, the other shore trooper nods back, they walk away
"You run on beach? You go to jail." - Shoretrooper
No, no, no, they get shot, stupid. If you make that mistake again, you will have to explain yourself to Lord Vader
According to their Star Wars legion box set information, Shore troopers are stormtroopers who have performed well. Troopers who are shore troopers have earned it and are given temporary assignments.
So they are basically given better jobs.
Shoretoopers are the towel guys that get paid the big bucks!
On the topic of Shoretroopers acting as lifeguards:
If your fascist dictatorship needs to get civilians used to the idea of seeing military personnel everywhere, giving military personnel tasks like lifeguarding is a conceivable idea to come from some high ranking imperial.
Shoretroopers are Stormtrooper veterans who have completed special environmental training (in this case for shorelines).
They are seen taking command in Rogue One for example, because they A.) likely are the highest ranking NCOs present and B.) were specifically trained to fight / command troops in that exact environment.
The fact that they are acting as a police force on that paradise planet in Andor is meant to show just how much the Empire is overreacting over the attack on Aldani.
They are sending in the Troops as a show of force. The Empire is afraid that Aldani will be the spark of a much larger fire, so they try to suffocate any rebellious elements (even if a few non-rebellious individuals get caught in the net).
the most perfect and detailed answer. bravo my friend.
I agree. I think this makes the most sense.
You're giving it more thought than Disney ever did...
It doesn't take much to give more thought than disney would.
Their job is to sell toys snd thats final
They shore up defenses
My favorite theory is that they are older troopers that are sent to nicer areas to serve the rest of their term before retirement. That’s why they are seen in areas of relative peace (niamos, scarif before the events of rouge one). There are probably counter examples but it’s the theory that I like the most.
@@ReanuKeevesAus I have never thought of it that way. That’s a good theory
@@ReanuKeevesAus Dang that’s a neat connection
I told y’all we were important 😂
Snowtroopers and Sandtroopers are both underrated. Regular Stormtroopers and Scouttroopers gett plenty of recognition.
regular stromtropers are already like the Empire's Marine corps though, mostly serving on ships and serving as an expeditionary force
It’s established that Shoretroopers are specialists & NCO’s and command squads of regular Stormtroopers.
They protect the sand from Vader, so he doesn't destroy the sand on the very nice beaches for swimming.
And maybe protect Vader from the sand? I"m sure it wouldn't do his breathing apparatus any good with sand in its filters! :)
I think what they failed to mention is that each of these troopers who are assigned to certain environments specialize in those environments. Where is the empire has a standing army to occupy planets specialists are deployed during combat situation‘s and sometimes in key strategic defensive operations. For example protecting a shield generator. In A New Hope, there were some regular storm troopers accompanying Sam troopers in the pursuit of Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, obi-Wan, and the droids. CP-30, and R2-D2.
Theory: Shore Troopers are Military Police, "Shore" refers to the Base, not the enviroment
Two holes in the theory, Shore Troopers have only been shown in scenarios involving literal shores, beaches and coasts, giving the environmental definition more basis than a military one. Secondly, the role of Military Police is being filled by Patrol Troopers and the ISB
@@Sc0rpJoealso their official name according to wookiepediq is coastal defender storm trooper
So yes its actually shores
Shore troopers were leading stormtroopers on scarrif cause they were the higher ranking guys around at the moment, a stormtrooper could just as easily lead them around if applicable, while IRL, there have been times where US soldiers were tasked with keeping a McDonald's running during the recent withdrawal, so it seems pretty reasonable that this could happen
It also probably makes sense for the Troopers with more permanence to the location to lead the Stormtroopers who might be rotated in and out more often.
Off topic but would anyone love to see a show on Those soldiers handing a McDonalds? Like it doesn’t have to be a documentary, maybe just a hyper fictionalized cartoon or smth
In the military, certain "jobs", you need to be a minimum rank with X amount of time in rate (job). So, to be a Shore Trooper you'd need to be at least the Rank of Sargeant and been deployed to an environment like Skerif (probably misspelled it) for a minimum of 2-3 years before you qualify to take the training course.
I feel like it makes more sense when you already train infantry for very extreme environments. So much so it becomes expensive to train everyone for everything. It's not just shores, or industrial environments. It's forests, space, inhospitable planets, underwater(remember, there are completely aquatic species in the empire.)
I love the way Shore Troopers look
I just painted a squad of these guys for Star Wars Legion. My headcanon is that they're part marine, part coastguard, and part stormtrooper
Shoretrooper is minimum sergent and the « shoretrooper job » its give to best stormtrooper its like vétéran stormtrooper armor is better and weapon is better
I feel like they were performing less of a lifeguard role and more of a martial law one
I thought that your normal stormtrooper was considered the marine corps of the empire
more like the army honestly.
troops to go anywhere and everywhere with just a general combat training.
marines are a BIT more specialized.
@@grimnartusk265 yes but you already had the Imperial Army. Like the guys seen in the Solo movie.
ST corp is considered as elite branch. Not as elite as lets say DT but better than army, police, riots and so on. In Solo you can see mudtroopers and army is pretty similar but without mud part.
The stormtrooper corps is its own independant branch of the imperial military but the support the Navy and the Army regardless
The dudes in black uniforms on ships are the "marines", or fleet troopers, at least according to one of the FFG sourcebooks. But then I get kinda confused who is navy and who is the "marines".
Stormtroopers(and by extension Shoretroopers) are meant to fulfill the dual roles of both standard military troops and MPs (the whole reason of their faceless masks is more about intimidating civilians not to mess with them rather than scaring the rebels they are already fighting.) So it makes perfect sense for them to both be specialist beach soldiers and acting as a police force in the area.
Back here on Earth, having all national (or imperial) law enforced by military personnel was 100% normal until the late 1700s. It can cause some problems though.
BTW: The US Constitution envisions a setup where the Federal government can give orders to (and take command of) local law enforcement groups called "militias" to avoid some of rhe issues. Police hadn't really been invented yet.
Anyways, maybe in SW there just aren't police. Just local sherrifs who only enforce local laws and order, and then the Imperial military for everything else.
Look amazing while on beaches is what they do!
It makes sense to have specialized troopers for each environment imo, in the Star wars galaxy there are hundreds of each environment type, meaning soldiers that are “shore troopers” likely can spend their entire careers in those environments, meaning having the specialized training for that specific environment makes sense, due the the sheer grand scale associated with being a galaxy wide military
So now we are noticing that the Empire military is riddled with mismanagement.
I mean, is it really that surprising? Think that they transformed the most effective military force on the galaxy, capable of winning a war of attrition against normally superior numbers, into a terror and human wave doctrine nonsense. The training parameters have certainly laxed from the times of the Clone Wars.
It hasn't been the same since they phased out clones
Hate to disagree but If not for palpy the CIS and their infinitely more adaptable droid armies and their bottomless morale would win the war of attrition against the republic (republic was still better than the empire thats for certain)
Not uncommon for fascist regimes: their biggest threat is their own populace, not other armies, so they turn to terror. Even the Death Star was created for the purpose of “keeping the local systems in line.”
@@silentshadow9983 Palp orchestrated the CIS' creation and supplied their greatest generals who made the war. He created and controlled both sides to keep a stalemate of political unrest to bring about the empire by the act of the very political body he was waging a secret war against.
The clones were gene coded to be a highly disciplined militaristic force as was due to their highly disciplined and wickedly effective gene donor and his passed down secrets from the militaristic society of Mandalore.
Remember that the Galactic Republic was so unused to and so alien to grand warfare, that they made up all of their military protocols organization on the fly. The Empire was no better, because it was a terrible redesign and doctrine change of the same infantile military Cadre the Republic threw together. It's all so confused because they are still trying to make this up as they go along.
Just like we had to redesign our own understanding of warfare at each major turning point in history due to elements making our previous way obsolete or "backwards" and insane to maintain, but still were because it just was the way things were done. Until it was clear it was too detrimental to keep it up.
Now I'm imagining a Star destroyer is just filled with different types of specialised storm troopers, and each platoon mostly just sits there, waiting for thier ship to come across the one type of environment they're specialised towards.
The shoretroopers usually have a rank of Sargent (these with red-blue coloured armour) but some are still privates
They create action figure revenue jeez everybody knows
Drip, you can’t be a villain without having drip
They are the snow troopers of the beach! 😆
probably best explained by disney has no idea what they’re doing
The Storm Trooper Corps is modeled after the USMC and shoretroopers seem like a specialized unit within the Stormtrooper corps
My theory: disney has no idea what to do with star wars but has to keep making things new even if it doesn't make sense. Hence "they fly now"
They fly now!
It's not Disney.
The Empire was criminally stupid from day one under Lucas.
@@rpgmusik2172 They fly now
This isn't simply what happened to Shoretroopers, after the last separatist holdouts crumbled the Imperial Army was reorganised more akin to the USCG or BOPE, a military-standardised and equipped policing force
They were security and cops basically on andor show I loved it
nah that lifeguard Shoretrooper just got the Empire's equivalent to a shitty billet lol
ah yes, the beach boys
My theory is that Disney writers have no clue what they’re doing
The planet has snow? Deploy the Snowtroopers!
Imagine training for years to become one of the elite stormtroopers of the empire, but you end up becoming a lifeguard.
"What exactly do Shore Troopers do?"
Sell figures, Mike. Sell figures.
I think the lore reason, at least if it was legends, was that storm troopers would recieve kit specialized for the region and terrain and that the commanders of the units got their armor first, so they could go on AO Familiarization Patrols (kind of like how we do in the real military where squad leaders will join up with a squad from a unit we are relieving so they can get a feel for their area of operations) so the team if rogue one go their right while the rest of the unit was probably swapping kit.
However it's disney and I doubt they thought this far ahead and in all reality they just wanted new toys to fall under their license only
They're in charge of security whenever Old Man Palpatine has his birthday beach parties on Scarif. 👌
They are yet another example of "Make something new, they will be rubbish but for a moment they will look like a threat"
Shoretroopers got mad drip tho ngl. That new helmet design is *chefs kiss*
It's like they say "when the military becomes the police the scitezens become the enemy" or something like that
The Imperial Life Guard tasked with monitoring the pool on the death star
Well the whole specialization of branches seems a little less insane when entire worlds could just be sand, or snow or islands, like on Hoth snow troopers definitely make sense because of low temperatures and harsh tundra, while on Tatooine sand troopers for desert environments makes sense
This is what I love about the Empire, they have so many jobs for many situations, and each one of them are vastly deadly.
Imagine getting picked up by a bunch of heavy infantry with an AAV7 after you happen to be adrift.
"Are you marines or coast guard?"
*"YES"*
Rogue One introduced all of my favorite trooper designs
The Empire's Military had multiple different branches, which were: The Imperial Army, The Imperial Navy, The Imperial Stormtrooper Corps (The Empire's Marine Corps) which operated under the Army, and The Imperial Starfighter Corps (The Empire's Air Force) which operated under the Navy.
This is a lot of deep thinking for something where the answer is "subpar world building" and "new designs for the purpose of selling toys"
With these guys at a resort now I want more specialist troopers at civilian areas. Casino trooper! Disco trooper!
Disney : To sells more toys
The USMC has marines that serve as lifeguards. Lifeguard certification in the USMC is actually pretty difficult too. It's called MCIWS
It makes sense to me that an amphibious force would train its members to fulfill a full spectrum of related competencies, including support and services functions needed to sustain military force and perform civil functions..
I original thought they are just a specialized unit defending scarif which is why they had the superiority over regular stormtroopers, perhaps they are a sort of marine Corp because of some sort of rebel activity on that planet in andor they were sent there as backup I guess.
Im just picturing stormtroopers exclusively operating during hurricanes and blizzards.
"The desert is like the sand" - Caluben
It makes some sense for Environmental Specialists to command normal Stormtroopers:
They have a slight seniority/expertise advantage over the Regulars. And with otherwise equal rank, seniority or expertise are used as tie breakers.
…..
A desert is half a beach.
They are certainly a stand-in for beach troopers
Gotta love that SW legion box art
Death Troopers and Shore troopers are my fav from this era
Shore troopers are more like an elite unit for more tropical environments in general. To even be selected you have to be an SGT+, explaining the command they have.
They've essentially carried over the trooper distinctions of the Republic where the armors and specialization based on planetary environment is just that and roles etc are meant to be fulfilled by all stationed there
"Militarized life guards"
Coast guard has joined the chat.
The Scarif thing is likely that they were under surprise attack so just mustered into whatever semi coherent units they could gather into. They'd have had similar levels of training so could work together.
Thank the algorythm for showing me this sjort because these guys are now my favorite stormtroopers
Imperial troops landing on Utapau: Deploy the big hole troopers
Now I want to see Jaws vs Shoretrooper squad 😂
Still think it's mental that my tiny town had starwars filming on our beach 😂
Oh my god is that the road to war in the background
the star wars galaxy has a ton of mono-biome planets for some reason so it makes sense for the empire to have a bunch of hyper specialized branches like the snowtroopers. shoretroopers themselves are probably a combination of marines and coast guards
We do know that Del Meeko of Inferno Squad had previously served as a Shoretrooper, as well as having been a chief of engineering on an ISD, so it seems there's a lot of room for lateral movement between branches and specialties.
Shoretroopers exist to give Star Wars more merchandise to kids.
Recruiter: "Alright, you wanna be a stormtrooper, a pilot, a scout trooper, a shoretrooper, a sandtrooper, a snowtrooper, a lavatrooper, a aquatrooper, a air trooper, a grasstrooper, a swamptrooper, a jungletrooper, a forest trooper, a mildly humid trooper, temperate climate trooper, a space trooper, a star trooper, or a death trooper?"
They arrest people going to local bodegas for looking around too much.
Likely shoretroopers would have command authority in secarios regarding the coast as that is their speciality, hence why they have authority over stormtroopers. Or it could be a mixed unit strategy due to the same reason of speciality while also increasing numbers.
Shoretroopers The Star Wars version of the Coast Guard. It's that simple.
I could be that shore troopers, sand troopers and snow troopers are stormtroopers of various roles who underwent special training and were specially equiped for their environments
Shoretroopers are badass and deserve a show. Change my mind.
There are situations where a specialist can give orders to even a higher rank. For example in ww2 during the Normandy invasion there were specially designated groups meant to coordinate the assault and if they gave orders to a captain then the captain had to listen despite being a higher rank. Could be a similar situation there
They're the equivalent of beach masters from WWII. In Saving Private Ryan they show how they have full control of the beach and the troops within. But I could be mistaken.
They’ve got awesome armor though. Tan and blue is a severely underrated color match.
Finally! Now we Floridians can finally defend ourselves against those hurricanes
Imagine an entire regiment of troops exclusively for D-Day type stuffs.